DSLR vs Mirrorless in 2024, Is It Even Worth the Fight?

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @bobbullethalf
    @bobbullethalf 8 месяцев назад +8

    I went from optical view finders to the mirrorless ones, and I honestly have never looked back.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      I love it too

    • @northofbrandon
      @northofbrandon 8 месяцев назад

      Ironically you can review in OVF, meaning you can scrub backwards and 'look back' :P

    • @sovu9399
      @sovu9399 6 месяцев назад +1

      I did the same, but i loocked back, and never went back)

  • @DAVE_WHITE
    @DAVE_WHITE 8 месяцев назад +10

    Find the gear that works for you it is that simple, as long as you are doing what you like with photography.

  • @martinhommel9967
    @martinhommel9967 8 месяцев назад +7

    I have two mirrorless cameras and a DSLR (Z6, Canon R7, Canon 90d) I prefer the experience you get from taking photographs with the DSLR by far.

  • @user-JM1967
    @user-JM1967 Месяц назад +3

    Nikon D850 (from 2017) has 11 stops of Dynamic Range by Photons on Photos site. Legendary camera for many and many years to the future!

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  Месяц назад

      I output of the D850 should hold water until any surviving memory of it finally dies out

    • @user-JM1967
      @user-JM1967 Месяц назад +2

      So, Nikon D610 (from 2014) has 11 stops of Dynamic Range too, by Photons on Photos site. Did you see that list?

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  Месяц назад

      @ no. I don’t like charts personally. They tend to whip people into frenzy when over the extremes.

  • @kevintallant3922
    @kevintallant3922 7 месяцев назад +5

    Well. I went the other way. Sold all of my Z and bought back DSLR. I find it a better experience. Got an S5II sat gathering dust. Can’t beat the optical experience though I would concede on the quality of Z Camera viewfinders.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 месяцев назад

      Right on dude thanks for watching!

  • @TFUTM
    @TFUTM 6 месяцев назад +3

    Newer cameras make the craft element of photography easier but don't necessarily make the art better. That is in the mind of the photographer and will be influenced by digital view finders. If the picture you think you see in your head disappears when you look through the viewfinder (all you can see is Nikon Standard), that might not help.

  • @BP-xe7dw
    @BP-xe7dw 4 месяца назад +2

    It depends what you do. If you are a pro, autofocus accuracy is paramount for any type of events, in body stabilization.. picture quality is debatable, again it depends for what. Future proof your gear. If it's your hobby, great cameras don't become bad beceause new cameras hit the market.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching ☝️

  • @DavidStewart-jb7mo
    @DavidStewart-jb7mo 8 месяцев назад +8

    Zack, I agree with you to a point. There are still some smaller photographic niches where DSLRs still shine. My D750 is converted for full spectrum photography. I still use my D850 and D810A for Aurora. This type of photography when using a DSLR, everything is manual, focus and exposure. The same glass that I would use on a Z mount, is not available from Nikkor yet, but third party glass by Sigma (F mount) and some Chinese companies (Z mount) is. There is still a use for my DSLRs but their days are numbered. My Z8 with my Sigma 28mm f1.4 will autofocus on the night sky.
    If you can afford it, go directly from the DSLRs to the Zs with the Expeed 7 microprocessor, they are head and shoulders above the others in all respects.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching David

    • @PsychedelicChameleon
      @PsychedelicChameleon 8 месяцев назад +1

      Not being able to afford an Expeed 7 camera body was the only thing that bothered me about my recent purchase, but my photos are so much better now especially under conditions of low light with hardly any time to compose and focus, that I don't regret my purchase one bit!

    • @DavidStewart-jb7mo
      @DavidStewart-jb7mo 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@PsychedelicChameleon Don't discount the Zf, it may have a retro look, but it is head and shoulders above the Z6 ii and if the resolution was higher, then the Z7 ii also. I have one and it is a fantastic camera.

  • @johnfromconnecticut
    @johnfromconnecticut 8 месяцев назад +5

    In July of 2021 I did a thorough investigation whether to keep my DSLR kit including D4S, D3S, and D750 and a bunch of gold-ring F-mounts or start the transition to mirrorless. I rented a Z7II and a couple of Z lenses. I loved the Z lens output, I hated the Z7II experience, especially the ergonomics and the EVF. I decided to stay with my DSLR kit and actually started building back the F2 film kit of my youth.
    Fast forward to the Z9. Wow! I tried it and it sold me on mirrorless. It resolved all my issues regarding ergonomics and the EVF. One by one I traded mf F-mounts for Z's and couldn't be happier. The advantages of mirrorless just blew my DSLR thinking out of the water.
    Then comes the Zf - Wow again! This one combined incredible mirrorless technology with the retro look and feel of the Nikon film cameras of my youth. Another winner!
    Anyone getting into photography these days would be much better with an entry level mirrorless over any DSLR.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Totally agree John 🙌 thanks for being a member and watching early!
      Bodyscape content coming possible by Wednesday 🤙🤙🤙

    • @realnikonlover6207
      @realnikonlover6207 7 месяцев назад

      Amen! Ditto. Now I have a stable of F glass and a D850 I am selling off .

    • @johnfromconnecticut
      @johnfromconnecticut 7 месяцев назад

      @@realnikonlover6207 The D850 will forever live in the Temple of Nikon Legends. But for now, the Z System is the pathway to the future.

  • @gordonbrown5901
    @gordonbrown5901 8 месяцев назад +4

    As long as people value the OVF DSLR's will be used. The optical view is irreplaceable by an EVF. And most modern DSLR's have great LV abilities, like the S780. Now if someone could make a DSLR with a Fuji like slide in evf screen in the ovf viewfinder, nirvana!

  • @Zobeid
    @Zobeid 8 месяцев назад +2

    1:23 "And when it comes to autofocusing, you get almost 100% of the viewfinder to move your autofocus point around, and that means no more focus-and-recompose, which I'll never miss shooting like that."
    To me, center spot focus, focus-and-recompose, seems to me like the simplest, quickest and most intuitive way to work. It takes a second, maybe less. Fiddling with a joystick or a touch screen takes too long and is a needless distraction. Using multiple focus points and hoping the camera locks onto the thing I want only leads to frustration. I look at camera reviews that go into half a dozen different autofocus modes, plus a joystick to fiddle with, and I don't get it. How is all that complexity an improvement?
    2:15 "DSLR warranties are over, and they ain't making any more. Once the parts are gone, they are probably going to be gone, so good luck fixing it."
    Pentax would like a word.
    Anyhow, I have turned into a bit of a viewfinder snob. I want a really good viewfinder. Some EVFs are really good now, but they are on the highest-spec and highest-dollar bodies.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      1. Do what works for you.
      2nd point, generally when I'm talk i'm talking about the big three 35mm unless i specifically mention Fuji or Hassy, and I don't know a single person Pentax. I'm never talking about pentax.
      lol
      thanks for watching.

  • @Audimann
    @Audimann 8 месяцев назад +1

    I believe the same discussion happened sometime 20 or 25 years ago. It was analog slr vs dslr back then. Funny thing is that Leica still builds analog cameras like the M6. And there are still camera shops around which only deal in analog stuff.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Sure. Though I would argue the differences between film and digital is vastly different than DSLR and Mirrorless. Digital vs different digital

    • @Audimann
      @Audimann 8 месяцев назад

      @@ZWadePhoto Yep you are right. But mastering composition and exposure is all the same no matter what type of camera you have. Are there are still people who think that P mode stands for "Professional" 🤣🤣

  • @mongini1
    @mongini1 8 месяцев назад +1

    Looking back, I had a great time with my D750... But live preview of the final image before its taken, especially with Fuji's insanely good processing and awesome Eye AF (X-H2 here), is a godsend.
    One thing to you Wade: that glossy screen you got would drive me insane xD

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      I almost got the matte screen, but all the reviews of that model year said the colors were noticeably dull lol.
      I usually edit with no lights so it doesn’t bother me haha.

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the video.
    I agree that a new person should start with mirrorless.
    In my case, when I was new to digital, I needed a camera that could use my two-dozen 35mm Nikon lens inventory. Regretfully, Nikon took too long to develop their full-frame dSLRs and their full-frame digital mirrorless cameras.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching Narsuitus

  • @Rivenworld
    @Rivenworld 8 месяцев назад +2

    At the end of the day, it is a camera, it takes pictures, whichever you prefer works for you so there shouldn't even be a 'versus' scenario, it is a tool, simple as that.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      In my opinion, unless it’s your first one, might as well get the most modern you can afford

  • @manilamartin1001
    @manilamartin1001 8 месяцев назад +2

    love seeing you dressed up. Looks great on you with the tie.

  • @Ton-x4r
    @Ton-x4r 8 месяцев назад +3

    My only Z camera is the Z5 and maybe I will get a Z7ii or something when I see a great deal second hand. But I will never let go my D850's, D810, D4, D3x, D700 and many more. Ok there is quite some sentiment keeping these camera's but I just like it this way. Cheers.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

  • @spirg
    @spirg 4 месяца назад

    Just switched to mirrorless, Love the EVF , i know thats preference, also like the smaller, lighter body , as im getting older ... when i hold my dslr now , it looks and feels really old.
    but the dslrs arent going away anytime soon....

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  4 месяца назад

      I’m definitely a mirrorless guy now too. Thanks for watching

  • @fotowalo
    @fotowalo 8 месяцев назад +4

    Ich kanns leider nicht in englisch.... Spiegellose Kameras sind den DSLR überlegen, weil der inexistente Spiegel keinen Platz benötigt und deshalb mehr senkrechte Strahlen auf dem Empfängermedium auftreffen. (Kürzere Distanz zwischen Objektiv und Kamerasensor) Es gibt also weniger schräge Strahlengänge zu korrigieren, was viele der optischen Fehler von vornherein eliminiert.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Excellent points my friend. Thanks for watching

    • @PsychedelicChameleon
      @PsychedelicChameleon 8 месяцев назад +1

      Google Translate of @fotowalo's comment: "Unfortunately, I can't speak English... Mirrorless cameras are superior to DSLRs because the non-existent mirror doesn't require any space and therefore more vertical rays hit the receiving medium. (Shorter distance between lens and camera sensor) So there are fewer oblique beam paths to correct, which eliminates many of the optical errors from the outset."

  • @garrywatters1140
    @garrywatters1140 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have hedged my bets and have both systems. I have a canon 1DX with L lenses which I still love using. I also have a canon R5 with RF lenses and an adapter for the EF L lenses. I use them both frequently but for different scenarios. The 1DX is great for portraiture and landscape work. The R5 is great for sport and wildlife.

  • @Wally519007
    @Wally519007 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’m grateful for this post. Just this week I was considering trading in my D750 and a D810 and I think you’ve given me the answer. These are great cameras but nothing comparable to the mirrorless and the tech that they come with. I’m a little sad to see them go but im also ready to embrace the new tech.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I could help. Especially if you’re in the budget range of a Z8, the performance is undeniable. But I would encourage you to be patient to see what happens with the Z6iii. Many people have been left wanting with the 6ii and earlier when switching from full frame DSLR as far as AF performance and such. I wasn’t, but I’m not an action shooter.
      The ZF, upcoming Z6ii, Z8 and Z9 are for sure massive upgrades.

    • @Wally519007
      @Wally519007 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZWadePhoto I've actually been looking at the Z7ii but I'll try to be patient with the release of the newer cameras. If they haven't been released by the time I'm ready to make my trade, which should probably be around the 1st week of May I'll consider your recommendation for the Z8. A little over my budget but I'll make it work.

  • @csc-photo
    @csc-photo 8 месяцев назад +2

    Best summary I’ve heard on this topic 👍🏻

  • @jamesspicewilliams8835
    @jamesspicewilliams8835 8 месяцев назад +2

    Totally agree with you my friend.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      Appreciate you watching James 🤙🤙

  • @Butterfly_bld22
    @Butterfly_bld22 6 месяцев назад

    The Canon 5D Mark IIII was my dream camera for yrs...I just got it and now I have to switch? :(

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  6 месяцев назад

      You don’t have to switch

  • @brusselssprout1
    @brusselssprout1 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nah, (D)SLR is more fun. The basic architecture of a (D)SLR (mirror+prism+OVF) provides a physical link between the photographer and the world, whereas mirrorless decides what the world might look like by showing it through a "TV" screen., imposing its own interpretation of illumination, colours, contrast, etc. I do realise that, at the tail end, photons go through identical sensor capture and data crunching processes, and produce identical image files, but that is not the point.
    Also, a (D)SLRs only does what the photographer asks it to do, nothing more, while mirrorless tries to do everything on behalf of the photographer, and you often have to "fight" against it to reassert full control. I realise that what I just described is a very subjective feel. In a nutshell, I prefer driving to being driven. I feel that even more when using a Leica M of course, as that one provides an absolutely unhindered direct view of the scene and very little to no automation, but that one carries other issues and limitations.
    Finally, latest generation medium to high end DSLRs (I know there will never be a next generation DSLR) are functionally excellent (AF, metering, shutter speeds, etc) and will provide the same IQ and manage to capture the same challenging images as mirrorless while providing me with a much more satisfying shooting experience. That is my personal experience anyway and I do use fine specimens of both architectures on a daily basis.
    Video is a completely different kettle of fish obviously: nobody will ever miss the OVF experience of Super 8 or 16mm cameras. If you do constantly combine video and still photography, mirrorless becomes a no-brainer.....😊

  • @nassimabed
    @nassimabed 8 месяцев назад +1

    The best camera is the one you have in hand and the best performance comes from your skill and talent. And no, the newbie photographer will not "need" 100 frames per second.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the input

  • @JohnPepp
    @JohnPepp 8 месяцев назад +1

    I like mirrorless because of the auto focus capabilities, but I think manufacturers and a lot of RUclipsrs over hype the auto focus capabilities of these mirrorless cameras. Don't get me wrong they are very good in focusing but the hype exaggerates it.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      I never over exaggerated the Nikon Z6 6ii and 7ii. I consider myself a pioneer of calling Nikon on their shortcomings and praising their successes when everyone else seemed to be screaming "they're blameless" or "they're going bankrupt"
      I don't exaggerate on the what I can do with the Z9. It really is as good as I say it is at least.

  • @izziereal2010
    @izziereal2010 8 месяцев назад +1

    With Mirrorless cameras, the DSLR is an old technology that had its purpose and cannot compete. Beginners should begin with Mirrorless.
    I own the ZF and it's an incredible camera. However, when I go to work, I carry either my D610 or D750 to take pictures for records of the jobs (construction). They are better than my phone and continue to have a use for them.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

  • @mftran
    @mftran 8 месяцев назад

    Although I agree that you can’t buy gear and magically become a great photographer, I will say that my R6II and new RF lenses make shooting so easy, it feels like I bought talent. The new stuff enables me to shoot photos I could never before. Nailing focus on a moving subject’s eye at F1.2 is insane.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly. It won’t make you better at photography, but it makes getting the shots you wanted easier for SURE haha.
      Thanks for watching my friend!

  • @magiccarpetrider4594
    @magiccarpetrider4594 8 месяцев назад

    I use mirrorless for focus peaking. I prefer manual focusing and manufacturers have killed it in DSLRs over the years by taking away ground glass options. I shoot a full kit of Zeiss primes.
    I also shoot Leica M11s although I’m not a fan of rangefinder patches, but can use EVF. 5 years ago I’d cringe at anything besides optical.

  • @visionz_n_media
    @visionz_n_media 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @PharaohMan007
    @PharaohMan007 8 месяцев назад +1

    Agreed! Good points

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching PharaohMan

  • @eldengard23
    @eldengard23 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dslrs are still better for shooting parties and dance floors because of the af asist light that doesn’t work on milc

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +3

      At least with the Z8 and Z9, I regularly achieve focus, even in tracking modes, in reeeeaaaaaaly dark scenes. Perhaps the Z6ii and earlier struggle more, it’s been a long time since I’ve used them now

    • @PsychedelicChameleon
      @PsychedelicChameleon 8 месяцев назад +1

      What is "milc"?

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@PsychedelicChameleon I think he mean ME camera

    • @eldengard23
      @eldengard23 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@PsychedelicChameleon mirrorless interchangeable lens camera

    • @eldengard23
      @eldengard23 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@ZWadePhoto ye im on the z9 and its nowhere close to how dslrs with af assist beam accuracy and speed. I do a lot of manual focusing on partyes that inhave to flash
      I’ll prolly ged a d5 or d6 just for my nightlife stuff

  • @sirNemanjapro
    @sirNemanjapro 10 дней назад

    I’m holding off until someone introduces tumbleweed tracking or at least avocado tracking.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  10 дней назад

      Get it together camera industry how do we not have it already!

  • @stevenbamford5245
    @stevenbamford5245 7 месяцев назад

    Nikon D850 in the used market is still circa £1600 and the Canon 5Div just a little less, buying good lenses for either is still £600-1000 for 1.4 to 2.8 pro quality.
    Top DSLR systems are still holding their value, it's probably cheaper to go mirrorless 😂 it's a very strange market, I could get into a Fujifilm system cheaper than a Nikon D850 system.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 месяцев назад

      Not fujifilm GFX lmfao

    • @stevenbamford5245
      @stevenbamford5245 7 месяцев назад

      @@ZWadePhoto We are talking mainstream not niche, an XT-5 with a couple of primes is cheaper than the D850.

  • @bestmoviesever1
    @bestmoviesever1 7 месяцев назад

    I have a feeling in a few years from now, there will be a nostalgia trend for using DSLRs and young people will say that they use DSLRs for the more retro look.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 месяцев назад

      Hahaha I’m sure. Even though the differences before mirrorless and DSlr are not nearly as noteworthy as dslr and film 🤷‍♂️ f**k it, I’m going pinhole.

  • @luissalazar2021
    @luissalazar2021 6 месяцев назад

    Great job

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  6 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @tubularificationed
    @tubularificationed 8 месяцев назад +2

    Agree all around. The probably ONLY image quality advantage for DSLR might be, that it doesn't have a problem which mirrorless had introduced:
    - the short flange distance,
    - which reduces the distance between a native lens' rear lens element and the sensor
    - which in turn causes hard, steep angles at which light hits the sensor (apart from the image center);
    - if then you are a landscape photographer who likes wide angle shots which include the sun with pretty star bursts,
    - therefore you routinely go for small apertures,
    - you often would see a new kind of red/purple ghosting, alternating in a grid pattern around the sun. That's an artifact caused by light bouncing between sensor components (between optical layers / filters down to the micro lenses) and causing some inference effects (my best guess).
    An example is given in the dpreview forum thread "Terrible sensor flaring with a7Riv", but this problem is not Sony specific, also Canon R has it, also Fuji X. Essentially every mirrorless camera (using a native mirrorless lens) is prone to that.
    But if you are not a starbursts addict, i.e. avoid artifact provoking conditions (avoid apertures smaller than f/8 or so), then there's no problem ruining your shot 🙂

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!