What an incredible video! That Convair 580 seemed to just rise up out of nowhere. I was tempted to duck! Amazing to see that thing zoom overhead. That was really cool!
I wrenched the CV-580 from 1967 until about 1982 at the original Frontier Airlines. The Mountain Master, one of the toughest and most capable airplanes ever built. I remember flying cockpit jumpseat once on a scheduled flight over the Great Plains, flying VFR from one WWII-built small-town airport to another. The flight crew and I were busy discussing the state of the airline when the F/O looked out the side window and realized we were about to overfly our destination airport. The Captain pulled the power levers back to flight idle and pitched the airplane down practically on its nose. I was hanging from my shoulder straps, listening to the propellers cycling on the negative torque sensing to prevent engine over speed as the big props acted as air brakes. I was also wondering about what was going on in the passenger cabin, and how many passengers were convinced we were about to die. All I could see through the windshield was the airport below us. When finally we were down to approach altitude, the pilot pulled the nose up and landed after a very short final. Flying was very different in those days--lots more fun, all with a perfect safety record for Frontier and her great, great pilots. Thanks for the great video and sound show.
The original Frontier was, and is, my all-time favorite airline. Frontier was THE airline in Topeka, KS, for many years, and I remember both the 580s and the 737s flying in here in the 1970s and early 1980s. Great memories!
Jan Walor On one of our trips to this very location, the 580 that was dropping off fisherman and picking us up for the 2.5 hour flight back to Winnipeg, hard landed. The engine broke and the turbo props cut into the fuselage. The plane was eventually stripped and then cut up and buried right off the runway. Isolated area so nothing else could be done. If you are interested in the crash pictures, please let me know and I will share them with you. ~ Steven
Once the last 580 simulator was gone it was no longer feasible to adequately train new pilots. My last gig was training pilots in Mexico and I left there because I couldn't in good conscience sign off those guys. As long as nothing broke and the weather was good....Thanks again for the fun videos.
Hoping that this runway got paved since 2012. No reason it shouldn't be. The benefits outweigh the cost of, since this fine aircraft is no longer produced.
VERY nicely done. And you are dead-on correct for referring to this Convair CV-580 as a jet, sballot. Quite pleased with you for mentioning this. A lot of folks, including my own aunt - whom, by the way, is a retired Delta flight attendant - do not refer to turboprops as jets for some odd reason. They think it's because of the propeller in use, instead of a large fan like on turbofan engines. Turboprop airplanes are INDEED jets because their engines are turbines, they use jet fuel, and start up and power down like jet-powered aircraft. In fact, the turboprop is one of four types of gas-turbine power. The remaining three are the turbofan, turbojet, and turbo-shaft. The only other class of aircraft engine that's NOT a jet is the piston design.
Beautiful plane, so clean and perfect condition.
P.S This aircraft needs to be in production again.
I just love the whistle from behind those Allison engines with that prop at flight idle or ground idle. Heard at 0:56 seconds.
What an incredible video! That Convair 580 seemed to just rise up out of nowhere. I was tempted to duck! Amazing to see that thing zoom overhead. That was really cool!
I wrenched the CV-580 from 1967 until about 1982 at the original Frontier Airlines. The Mountain Master, one of the toughest and most capable airplanes ever built. I remember flying cockpit jumpseat once on a scheduled flight over the Great Plains, flying VFR from one WWII-built small-town airport to another. The flight crew and I were busy discussing the state of the airline when the F/O looked out the side window and realized we were about to overfly our destination airport. The Captain pulled the power levers back to flight idle and pitched the airplane down practically on its nose. I was hanging from my shoulder straps, listening to the propellers cycling on the negative torque sensing to prevent engine over speed as the big props acted as air brakes. I was also wondering about what was going on in the passenger cabin, and how many passengers were convinced we were about to die. All I could see through the windshield was the airport below us. When finally we were down to approach altitude, the pilot pulled the nose up and landed after a very short final. Flying was very different in those days--lots more fun, all with a perfect safety record for Frontier and her great, great pilots. Thanks for the great video and sound show.
The original Frontier was, and is, my all-time favorite airline. Frontier was THE airline in Topeka, KS, for many years, and I remember both the 580s and the 737s flying in here in the 1970s and early 1980s. Great memories!
Wow! In my thousands of hours flying 580s I never landed on anything but solid tarmac. Big risk of sucking stuff up into the engines. Very cool.
Jan Walor On one of our trips to this very location, the 580 that was dropping off fisherman and picking us up for the 2.5 hour flight back to Winnipeg, hard landed. The engine broke and the turbo props cut into the fuselage. The plane was eventually stripped and then cut up and buried right off the runway. Isolated area so nothing else could be done. If you are interested in the crash pictures, please let me know and I will share them with you. ~ Steven
Once the last 580 simulator was gone it was no longer feasible to adequately train new pilots. My last gig was training pilots in Mexico and I left there because I couldn't in good conscience sign off those guys. As long as nothing broke and the weather was good....Thanks again for the fun videos.
@@sballot Hey sballot, if you still have those photos is there any chance you could share a link or a file of the crash to me? Thanks.
@@whiteaviation send me your email and I will send you a link to the crash photos
That Convair looked so ghostly when it was suddenly appearing from out of that dust cloud. Sense chills up and down my spine.
For a second I thought the plane overunned the runway.
Hoping that this runway got paved since 2012. No reason it shouldn't be. The benefits outweigh the cost of, since this fine aircraft is no longer produced.
Absolutely friggin fabulous! This is the best aviation video I've seen all year, and hands down the best Convair 580 photography I've seen anywhere.
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That is excellent footage of the CV-580!
Well...If he is standing at the edge of the runway till his "JET" lands...he is still at the runway, ha ha
I thought the Convair 580 was a turboprop plane
Yeah, so it's a jet. A turboprop is just a propeller driven by a jet engine.
Yes it is a turbine engine with a prop.
Would be I interested to know if any of their 580's were ever owned by GM or Sierra Pacific Airlines
that is not a jet but a turboprop and a great turboprop
Yikes taxing in all that gravel! Always loved the Convairs.
Great job & awesome old bird! Congrats!
nice cv 580 footage
wow nice bird...nice sound
This 580 Convair is not a jet, it's a turboprop
Same thing
Jet prop!
I wouldn't exactly call that a jet.....
Well it certainly isn't a piston engine
That's not a jet!
Nolinor FTW !
VERY nicely done. And you are dead-on correct for referring to this Convair CV-580 as a jet, sballot. Quite pleased with you for mentioning this.
A lot of folks, including my own aunt - whom, by the way, is a retired Delta flight attendant - do not refer to turboprops as jets for some odd reason. They think it's because of the propeller in use, instead of a large fan like on turbofan engines. Turboprop airplanes are INDEED jets because their engines are turbines, they use jet fuel, and start up and power down like jet-powered aircraft.
In fact, the turboprop is one of four types of gas-turbine power. The remaining three are the turbofan, turbojet, and turbo-shaft. The only other class of aircraft engine that's NOT a jet is the piston design.
There is nothing wrong with calling it a Turbo prop. As that's what it is.
Please.
Get it right!
What a beautiful piece of shit. Nice video !