Nice shots of the 580. After over 7,500 hours in the 580, it’s great to see again and I flew this aircraft at Frontier Airlines, WOW. Thanks for posting. 👍👍👍. 4-16-2023
It should be me saying WOW when someone finds my video who actually flew this aircraft. Air Chathams have retired their Convair's. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
The Convairs that were converted to turboprops are incredible airplanes. I have flown in the one owned by ERA in Alaska, the performance is amazing; great reverse and tremendous heat for deicing. The Convairs that were converted with Allison engines are baby Electras. My father ferried Convairs that were sold by Sabena back to the US for this conversion in the late 1960's.
Ah, the sounds of those Allison turboprops. Music to my ears, and that noise really takes me back to the days of the C-130s at Dobbins Air Reserve Base.
I've flown a few convairs over the years 340 and 440 for air ontario back in the mid 80s most earlier convairs still flying have been converted to turboprop considerably less moving parts and more range on the same amount of fuel good video
Flew a lot in the CV-580 in the 1970s. Always interesting to watch those meat-chopper propellers turn slowly at first while starting the engines and then they become a blur. With 3750 horsepower per engine, these planes could really accelerate and climb. Ah, the good old days!
Those props, I love the way that they sound chopping through the air. I also like the shot where the sun is reflecting off the props as it is parking up. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
Beautiful sound and power to spare!! I rode on many of these in the Rocky Mountains between 1967 and 1975. The sound inside is simply magnificent and the acceleration on takeoff is wonderful. Very fine mountain bird!!
Probably my all time favorite airplane. Northwest Airlines used to fly these (from Republic, North Central, etc.). Loved to hear those Allison 501-D's crank up. Plenty of power!
+Hank Fuddle Attractive aircraft, I love the sound it makes and the big props. I hope to catch a Convair coming into Wellington in the next couple weeks from the Chathams. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
Every time I see one of these old birds, I ask myself, "Was that one I flew on back in the day?" Was this a North Central "Northliner" ? What great memories! Thanks so much!
www.aussieairliners.org/convair/zk-cif/zkcif.html for the history of this aircraft. Hopefully this history helps. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
I plan to fly in one of these out to the Chathams before the threatened runway extension materialises, then they will fly 737's. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
5000 hours would make you very experienced I'd guess! Any anecdotes that you would like to share here and on my other Convair videos? Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
I flew the 580s for Frontier Commuter, Aspen Airways., and DHL in Europe and Latin America. Only the European versions operated by Swift Air had auto pilots. All the others were strictly cable and pulley hand operated mechanical controls. The only other aircraft I've flown with as heavy controls was the Douglas DC8. All hand flown approaches sharpened pilot skills. I might shoot 5-6 approaches a day in winter commuter operations. Several of those approaches might be to Aspen (Pitkin Co.) It was commonly considered the most difficult approach in the lower 48 states. I went on to fly heavy jets for DHL for 20+ years. When that job went away I finished my career as a 580 instructor in Mexico. There isn't time to share the countless stories of this manly aircraft but I will share that the Convair 580 is, to the best of my knowledge, the only large aircraft to have a mid air collision with a small single engine plane and then carry the impacted plane to a successful landing. If anyone reading this needs a 580 instructor feel free to contact me.
@@janwalor736 one of my best friends in my life (still is) worked as a station manager for Aspen Airways, in Durango! He 1st worked for Frontier, in Riverton Wyoming, & Sheridan.for about 20 years. Then, after deregulation; Frontier got rid of their 580's & leased them to Combs Airways. They paid pittance, so he left, & got with Aspen. Would you know who I'm talking about without naming him on the internet?
Teddy Pittsinger Didn't get to know many station people but my wife was a flight attendant on a 580 that slid off the Durango runway in a snowstorm. Tore off the gear and curled the props but everyone walked away. The Aspen pilot that "dead sticked" a 580 into South Park just died not long ago. That means he landed without engines running. I personally left one of my main landing gear wheels in Montrose on takeoff and successfully landed at the old DIA airport. Great old plane.
@@janwalor736, I was in Grand Junction when that happened! I remember that same winter, a Continental Express did the same exact thing. The FAA said it had something to do with the way the run way was made? Something about a blind spot? He was there when that happened. Yes, the 580 s were great planes!! And Aspen had those BAe 146 's that took almost no runway to take off. The good old days! The guy you are talking about that "dead sticked". That happened outside of the little town of Buena Vista. My friend said he tried the "gun barrel' highway in the San Luis valley. But, 'Murphy's Law', it had too much traffic. SO, he found a dirt road, landed, but the old dirt farm road had a 90 degree turn. He barely made the turn, & plowed into a cornfield. The Convair should have been beat to death. Yet, it was okay until it hit a stack of logs, & tore up the front landing gear. God Rest that old guys soul. ( Jan Walor, I had to edit this, because of my lack of consideration! AND, I got on the phone, & text my buddy) For sure same accident! He said the old guy just died. C U around on another Convair! .
For me nothing compares to the looks and sound of the CV580. Growing up in Fayetteville, AR I watched the Orignal Frontier Airlines CV-580s flying over our farm almost every day, they would usually lower the landing gear as they flew overhead on final to FYV (Drake Field). My first flight was probably on a Frontier Convairliner (not sure if it was a 340, 440, 580, or 600) in late 1967 at 2 months old when my mother took me to Canada to visit her mother, apparently I loved flying then and I still do! We made many trips to visit relatives in Canada and usually flew Frontier CV-580s out of FYV but sometimes it was on Scheduled Skyways (locally known as Scareways! And after acquisition by Air Midwest as Mid-Air Scare!)Metroliners. When Frontier pulled out of FYV Metroflight bought some of Frontier's CV-580s and began service to numerous airports formerly served by Frontier. I really miss flying in the 580 and those big comfortable seats, watching those HUGE Props and the Roar of those Allison 501-D13H powerplants. I still get to hear them as the USAF trains all C-130 crews at Little Rock Air Force Base in Jacksonville, AR. FYV is one of several airports that are used for Touch and Go practice and all C-130s currently in USAF Service excluding the J models were powered by 4 Allison T-56 with essentially the same props.
I have similar memories of the original Frontier CV-580s flying into Philip Billard Municipal Airport in Topeka, KS, back in the 1970s. Those were some great days! I remember one day in particular where we had three Frontier 580s on the ramp at the same time! I'm guessing there were weather delays somewhere in the system. I also remember seeing the FL CV-580s in Hot Springs, AR, and at Tri-City Airport in east-central Kansas. I miss those days.
Anderson, Frontier had a couple of 600s around, at that time. They acquired time from the old Central Airlines. They (Central), & Texas International were the only American companies that had them. (Anyway, so I read.)
@@tedpittsinger9688 Yes, they did. I think it was around 1976 or 1977 when Forbes AFB, south of town, was reconfigured for commercial service, and the 737s started flying in. The base still had air shows at the time, and I remember times when they'd have a pause in the show to allow a Frontier flight to land or take off. I always loved that!
I really like these 580's with the turbo-prop engine's..best thing they ever did to them...I can imagine the performance improvement over the old piston engine's..and those were pretty good anyway...what a beautiful aircraft..if i was rich i would definitely buy and fly one....i am falling in love with this one
+The Fart Powered Cyclist I like the head on view while the props are still spinning, as you said it is a beautiful aircraft. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
I flew both - right seat in the 240 & 440, 1966-68, the left seat in the 580, in 1972. (BAC 1-11 copilot in the interim period)There is no adequate description of the difference. The 2,000 HP Pratt and Whitney originals were a great pleasure because they were my first airline experience, usually flying half of up to 8 legs per day, no auto pilot. The 580 had exactly double the horsepower on the same airframe. The climb rate tripled and cruise speeds went from 210 knots to 250 and, with a lighter load, to 280, which was the airframe limitation. In training,(At PIT) we would feather one prop and motor along at 250 with no problem. It was almost a disappointment to get back into turbojets in 1973, but the pay was much better.
@@vincentsbardella4448 porque no se han construido aviones , tan potentes y seguros cono este convair ?? el 580 es la maxima. expresion de un turbo helice , aun en estos momentos... el mismo fuselaje y alas , mas el mismo motor levemente modificado, resultaria en una avion de corto alcance , sencillo y absolutamente seguro // es una especie de DC-3 tan bueno , pero superior.. creo que la seguridad y LA ECONOMIA.. esta en lus turbo helice...a futuro
Gracias por compartir tan hermoso video de el mejor turbo hélice de su época, sin lugar a dudas. El Convair 580 no tenía rival. Tuve la inmensa suerte de colarlo varios años y de verdad, fue una experiencia única en inolvidable.Una vez más, muchas gracias...
Love the sound of the APU starting first, which is located in the right engine nacelle. Its interesting to note that swishing sound when they start engine number 2, the paddle props alternately masking the APU sound as the blade spin faster...
Now I know what was making that sound at start up. A quick google followed. Interesting to see that the military versions of these Allison 501-D's is in the Hercules and Orions. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
Yes, as the plane taxis out of the gate, if you notice the side of the engine nacelle a small vertical oval pill shaped opening, that is the APU exhaust. Normally you can see soot stains that trail backwards from the APU spot, but apparently they keep it nice and clean.
También me gusta, me gusta especialmente la toma cuando se detiene en el delantal y el sol se refleja en las hélices. Gracias por ver y comentar, Antonio
Great Catch of this perpetual classic! I had the fortune of having flown on one of these once. Also, when traveling in the Great Lakes region of the United States, I saw others from Wright Air Lines (640 with R-R Darts), Freedom Airlines (640s), SMB Stage Line (580 Freighter), and possibly some other as well. In México, there was Aerolíneas Unidas S.A. (the 580 like this one), Aero Leon (440 Pratt & Whitney radial powered), and Interestatal (also P&W), and at least one (640 with Darts) still flies for Aeronaves T.S.M. Thanks a Lot for Sharing!
You are the first to come up with the evolution theory, maybe that was the role taken up by the Lockheed Electra albeit with about 80 seats. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
The shutter speed was 1/50 sec, twice the video frame rate on my D7000. Air Chathams have scheduled flights using Convair to the Chatham Islands and have just announced a weekly flight to Norfolk Island, it is my goal to fly one of those routes. More Convair videos on my channel. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
is this the same 501D (T-56)/ Aeroproducts prop combo used on the P-3 Orion? Very cool. (including the proximity to the ground at full nose gear depression...."crosscheck for pucker?" "puckered and whistling"
According to Wiki it is used in early C-130's and P-3 Orion's. Coincidentally stablemate ZK-CIB was in Kerikeri today. Video will be uploaded when I have edited. Thanks for watching amd commenting, Anthony.
that nice video ... full power of this magnificent plane ... and that characteristic sound of turboprop ... thanks for sharing it can be seen Agreed, a magnificent aircraft. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony. De acuerdo, una magnífica aeronave. Gracias por ver y comentar, Antonio.
I don’t know much about Aircrafts but I’m beginning to have so much feelings for them. They can be programmed for such GREATNESS but looks like at times they’ve been programmed for SELFISH REASONS & THIS SHOULD NEVER BE TOLERATED. Now when I look at Aircraft’s, It’s like I see Eyes, That Long Nose...Aircrafts should be FOREVER RESPECTED!
Aircraft ZK-CIF WAS ALSO KNOWN AS 73167 at Frontier Airlines, a Convair 440 originally. This arcraft came from Sabina in 1968 and converted to a 580 by Frontier airlines.
I remember these here in the 60's and 70's. Frontier, North Central then Republic used them. I flew on one from Denver back here in 1968 when I was 9. Never would fly again. lol. No chance. Luckily I came back still 9. Flew out on a United 4 engine prop plane but don't remember the model they used for those here. Could have been multiple models. If your into Airport movies as me and my friends were, you'll see one sitting at the Salt Lake Airport on the movie Airport '75. There's also a Frontier 737 shown. Not the topic here. lol.
+Chas S I don't think I had seen a Convair until this one flew into Kerikeri. I would fly in one, but it would be a joy ride. They are flying from Auckland to Whakatane, fly down and back just to say I had flown in one. I am now on the lookout for Convairs when I fly in or out of Auckland. Have a look at google maps and there is one on the apron at the eastern end of the airport. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
They are cool aircraft and should sound much like a 2 turboprop Hercules as they use a civilian version of the of the same engine. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
A Convair like this one hit a mountain in Arkansas at cruise speed , scud running in the dark - Texas International Airlines 655 ,1973........the wreckage is so high and isolated that it remains to this day.
I had not heard the scud running term so I looked it up, "The goal of scud running is to stay clear of weather to continue flying with visual, rather than instrument, references." To a lay person it would seem rather dangerous flying in the dark without instruments. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
@tomsamuelson8512 ....one of the saddest, most ironic things about this accident( you can find it on Wikipedia) is , the co-pilot identified where they were- by listening to navaids and looking at his chart - he had been uneasy about what the captain was telling him, i.e., "it's all flat out here, quit worrying"......but didn't have time to get it across before the impact. To give you an idea how low they were - the VOR they were going to overfly- broadcast "Page" - gave the MEA as 4,400 feet ; the captain had him flying at 2,000, and they hit terrain 600 feet below the top of the ridge.
Sí, el Convair funciona con un Allison 501 D13D/H, una versión civil de los Allison que alimentan al C-130 Hercules. Gracias por ver y comentar, Antonio
Here is an earlier comment I received about the APU, "Love the sound of the APU starting first, which is located in the right engine nacelle. Its interesting to note that swishing sound when they start engine number 2, the paddle props alternately masking the APU sound as the blade spin faster". Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
Мне не посчастливилось летать на Convair. Это нечто прекрасное, построенное в то время, когда все было более элегантно. Больше видео Convair от AKL и WLG на моем канале. Спасибо за просмотр и комментарий, Энтони
Nice vid. The convair is one of my favourites. Which airline operates this particular aircraft. There are three at Palmerston North at the moment operated by airfreight nz. Very cool, good looking, nice sounding, classic turboprop airliner.
I'm curious about those dual HF antennas--why are there two of them? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, it's the two wires running from the top of the fuselage near the front, to the leading edge of the tail. Normally an aircraft with HF capability will only have a single antenna, so it's unusual to see two.
Sorry I can't help you with your query. Hopefully someone better informed will read your comment and give the answer. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
AlaskaMike72... HF1 & HF2. Serves two purposes 1)Redundancy: incase one fails. 2)Legal operational requirement. Most likely this aircraft flies Oceanic routes out of VHF range requiring two forms of LRCS's (long range communication systems). Hope this helps.
Hermoso y potente Convair 580, uno de los mejores vídeos de tan excelente avión... AVENSA lo operó por largos años con excelente mantenimiento y hábiles pilotos. Fué una bellísima época que marcó historia en la aviación venezolana. Tuve el privilegio de estar ahí....Gracias por tan hermoso video... Cuantos recuerdos...
Thank you for sharing. I love the old bird. I try to learn and understand all I can. Do you know if there is a total number of hours that the airframe can take? Where do you found crews to fly this, how to they train? Share parts, can you still find/buy them. If I was rich, rich enough to have personal aircraft, I would say, hell no to a GIII, hell no to a G5, hell no to a Lear, HELL YES to a CV-580
Sorry Johnny, I can't help you with any of the details. I got a call telling me this beautiful aircraft was flying to Kerikeri. I saw 1 land last Saturday landing as we taxied in a ATR 72 after landing on a flight from Palmerston North. When our Q300 flight took off I saw several Convairs at the eastern end of Auckland airport. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
Comment from Craig Evans. I fly one and most of the parts come from Kelowna Flightcraft (KFC) Yes KFC! Great strong aircraft that gives you a work out every time you fly it. Ours is a tanker.
This one in particular has over 75,000 hours & 125,000 cycles. She is the highest cycle example in the world still operating and still polishes up nicely. There is no airframe life limit, they are incredibly robust aircraft. There are two flight simulators in the world for the CV-580, one at Kelowna Flightcraft (TC Holder) in Canada & the other with Air Chathams on the Chatham Islands. Most parts are still easy enough to get and cheap compared to most modern stuff, anything not readily available Kelowna can manufacture. Can buy old CV-340 out of the desert for as low as 10K USD and a decent CV-580 for 650K USD. Disadvantages when compared with modern types are fuel consumption & noise which are side effects from the very powerful Rolls Royce/Allison engines.
They are beautiful aircraft, I particularly like the shot when it is sqare on to the camera and you can see the props are larger than the fuselage. It makes a cool noise also. The last of Air Chatham's Convairs is about to be retired. It's last trip flies out of AKL next Friday, down to WLG and then out to the Chathams on an excursion and returns on Sunday. I will be going down to AKL and video it leaving. fly.airchathams.co.nz/?Farewelling_the_Convair_580& Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
There is still an outside viewing area but it is not at the end of the terminal anymore, it's about 10m or so from the corner of the building blocking the view of the apron. The video I shot of N899CH landing is taken from the viewing area. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
I used to fly the CV-580 for Frontier Airlines in the mid 1970s! Never really liked the plane because of its complexity. But I have a lot of respect for it because they took a mid 1930s designed aircraft fitted with 1200 HP piston engines on the 240, later upgraded them to the 340 with somewhere around 1800 hp piston engines, then retrofitted that pre WW ll design with those Allison engines cranking out 3400 hp, over twice the horsepower of the original piston engines. Not many designs could handle that without coming apart at the seams! One very tough air frame!
We bought two of the Frontier birds and flew them in Alaska, N73168 and N73127 I think. No autopilot. The ex-North Central Convairs, via QuebecAir, had a higher gross weight, APU instead of a GTC, anti skid and fuel dump,,,, oh, and an autopilot. Loved them !
@@anthony851 Indeed! The complexity I referred to involved the electrical systems. The original design was based on DC electrical components. The Allison engines required a lot of AC components. On the CV 580 each engine had a DC AND an AC generator. Two separate electric systems, very complex, that seemed to resent each other. Aircraft designed around those Allisons, like the C-130 and Lockheed L-188, have much simpler to understand electrical systems. But as I said, I know of few air frame designs that could hold together when over twice the original power was hung on those wings!
@@joetocayo Cool! I'm sure if I checked my log books I would find those two birds! I was told FAL removed the auto pilots because they believe auto pilots would degrade pilot skills. Only reason they didn't do that when they acquired the B-737 is FAA wouldn't have allowed it! After a day of hand flying those unassisted controls one knew he had been in a wrestling match! I can only imagine how some of today's 110 pound lady pilots would fare in those without auto pilots! Yeah, that GTE left a lot to be desired! When fired up it sounded like a dinosaur belching! I only flew the 580 at FAL for 4 months before upgrading to the 737.
Hi, According to some internet sources they say the 240 had 2100 HP for take-off and the 340 had 2400 HP for take-off. The 580 had 3750 HP for take-off. These are all per engine..But it doesn;t matter much, they were all fun to fly on
this could of very well had been one of north central/ republic airlines aircrafts many years ago. they were very well built and maintaining them wasn't a problem, pilots loved flying them. they retired them because most big airlines weren't flying turboprops anymore. its rather sad because the first and last time i flew republic airlines was in a convair. the day i fly in another will never happen. those who fly in them are so lucky
+trainboy20072009 I can't find the link I found earlier, it had all the countries this aircraft had been based in. Belgium and in the far north of the USA in Alaska. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
yes many countries used them, lots came from airlines and sold to companies or smaller airlines. i wished they would still make them, these twin engine planes were tough
Air Chathams has several of these aircraft. They fly from Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch to the Chatham Islands. There is talk about extending the runway on the Chathams to accommodate a 737. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
anthony851 Nolinor in Canada still flys the CV 580 in passenger service as well! Sadly due to changing regulations (reinforcement of cockpit doors) Air Chathams will be forced to retire their CV 580s from passenger service around 2021. There is a group The Northliner Foundation m.facebook.com/NorthlinerFDN/ and one of their eventual goals is to purchase a CV 580 or CV 340/440 I’m passenger configuration and fly her to air shows around the country especially those communities that were served by airlines using the Convairliners! And yes they plan on selling rides!!!
@@andersonnettleship845 Actually, Air Chathams have met the requirements for the cockpit doors so they can keep using the Convairs for now, but maintenance is putting them down anyway.
NZ has P-3 Orions also and they share with the Hercules a military version of this turboprop. More Convair's can be found on my channel. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
That chrome & pristine white makes it look brand new! Is this another 340 that got a pair of Allisons ? The 580 was a stretch version of the 340, by the original Frontier Airlines, 1964. 'General Dynamics', the parent company of Convair cut a deal of a lifetime with Frontier over that. And the 1st 580 to roll out was June 1st, 1964. I don't want to act like a know it all. But it's a huge article that proves it in 'Airliners Magazine', in the 911 edition (73) & Wikipedia.! A lot of people think 'General Dynamics stopped making commercial aircraft in 1961, after the failure of the 990. It just quit thinking toward jets!
Convair should have come out with a four engined turbo prop version of this,plus a rear engined,727 style jet,they would probably still be around today.
Imagine what 4 of those big props would sound like chopping through the air! Yes it is a beautiful aircraft and there are more of them on my channel. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
Yes I am a railfan, as you will see on my channel most videos are of something that turns fuel into noise. The CV-580'2 have been retired by Air Chathams, we went down to AKL for the departure of the last flight. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
They make a glorious sound. The runway is not level, look at the shot when the plane turns around and you will see a high point. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
I wish Air Chathams would do a Auckland to Palmerston North and Palmerston North Auckland Route so either you could choose classic plane or Modern Plane to fly to auckland so if that happened Palmy would have KRA , Air New Zealand and Air Chathams flying in . When i mean it coming to Palmerston North is for Domestic Passenger flights 2 - 4 flights a day would be good and the price ( Fare ) should be $90 per passenger plus i think Air Chathams should invest in some ATR 72s ( With a New Livery ) .
Jo Tyers I'd fly in a Convair also. Add some excitement to the flight,The trouble with modern aircraft is that they are sanitized to sterility, very little sensation you are flying. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
ZK is for New Zealand. KKE or NZKK is Bay of Islands airport at Kerikeri. We are about 260km north of Auckland, biggest city in NZ. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
Yes, a very nice looking aircraft. Air Chathams have retires their Convairs. I went down to AKL and shot video of the last departure to the Chatham Islands. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony
I like these Allison Turboprops because they have a nice calm drone to them whereas the Roll Royce Dart has the horrible air piercing scream which is annoying especially if you live near and Airport .
It is a beautiful old plane. I have been lucky to catch this aircraft and another Convair belonging to Air Chathams at Kerikeri and Wellington airports. Thanks for watching and commenting, Anthony.
ruclips.net/video/w142HmAsqI4/видео.html this is how i remember them, my dad took me out to see the F-16 Fighting Falcon at the local airport, i suddenly lost all interest in the F-16 and spent most of the time watching this bird. ever since i've loved it and still to to this day most of these that were still in operation went to air resort in california or some went to canadian airlines
Infelizmente, todos os Air Chathams Convairs estão aposentados agora e não os veremos em Kerikeri novamente. Obrigado por assistir e comentar, Antônio.
Nice shots of the 580. After over 7,500 hours in the 580, it’s great to see again and I flew this aircraft at Frontier Airlines, WOW. Thanks for posting. 👍👍👍. 4-16-2023
It should be me saying WOW when someone finds my video who actually flew this aircraft.
Air Chathams have retired their Convair's.
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Anthony
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You are one of the lucky ones. maybe only 1 580 still flying in Canada.
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Anthony
Love the sound of those Alisons on the early C-130s, Lockheed L-188 Electra, Lockheed P3 Orion and the Convair 580.
No argument from me, i love the sound also.
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Anthony
The Convairs that were converted to turboprops are incredible airplanes. I have flown in the one owned by ERA in Alaska, the performance is amazing; great reverse and tremendous heat for deicing. The Convairs that were converted with Allison engines are baby Electras. My father ferried Convairs that were sold by Sabena back to the US for this conversion in the late 1960's.
Very nice to hear from someone with experience and a connection to the Convair's.
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Anthony
Thanks. I have about a half hour of right seat time in a Convair that I got when I was 7 or 8 years old. It's not in my log book.
Ah, the sounds of those Allison turboprops. Music to my ears, and that noise really takes me back to the days of the C-130s at Dobbins Air Reserve Base.
The Convair uses a civilian version of the Allison turboprops used in the Hercules.
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Anthony
I've flown a few convairs over the years 340 and 440 for air ontario back in the mid 80s most earlier convairs still flying have been converted to turboprop considerably less moving parts and more range on the same amount of fuel good video
I have never had the privilege of flying in one, maybe one day.
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Anthony.
Those props are MONSTERS! I love how the circumference of the props is bigger than the width of the cabin!
Ok é monster 4000 horse powers.
Flew a lot in the CV-580 in the 1970s. Always interesting to watch those meat-chopper propellers turn slowly at first while starting the engines and then they become a blur. With 3750 horsepower per engine, these planes could really accelerate and climb.
Ah, the good old days!
Those props, I love the way that they sound chopping through the air. I also like the shot where the sun is reflecting off the props as it is parking up.
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Anthony
Beautiful sound and power to spare!! I rode on many of these in the Rocky Mountains between 1967 and 1975. The sound inside is simply magnificent and the acceleration on takeoff is wonderful. Very fine mountain bird!!
Beautiful to look at and a beautiful sound, everything you would want in a plane.
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Anthony.
North CentralAirlines.
Probably my all time favorite airplane. Northwest Airlines used to fly these (from Republic, North Central, etc.). Loved to hear those Allison 501-D's crank up. Plenty of power!
+Hank Fuddle Attractive aircraft, I love the sound it makes and the big props. I hope to catch a Convair coming into Wellington in the next couple weeks from the Chathams.
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Anthony.
Flew them Duluth-Hibbing-Intl. Falls
Fantastic video, Anthony! I love this old bird and the fact she's still in active service is just amazing!
+Aviation NLNZ A cool aircraft without a doubt!
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Anthony
I love the sound of those Allison Turboprops .
Very good song.
Thinking about that right now!
Every time I see one of these old birds, I ask myself, "Was that one I flew on back in the day?" Was this a North Central "Northliner" ? What great memories! Thanks so much!
www.aussieairliners.org/convair/zk-cif/zkcif.html for the history of this aircraft. Hopefully this history helps.
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Anthony
Love this plane. Solid as a rock. Flew it many many times across Lake Michigan.
I plan to fly in one of these out to the Chathams before the threatened runway extension materialises, then they will fly 737's.
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Anthony
Have over 5000 hrs flying both passengers and cargo. Rock solid aircraft. Thanks for the posting
5000 hours would make you very experienced I'd guess!
Any anecdotes that you would like to share here and on my other Convair videos?
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Anthony
I flew the 580s for Frontier Commuter, Aspen Airways., and DHL in Europe and Latin America. Only the European versions operated by Swift Air had auto pilots. All the others were strictly cable and pulley hand operated mechanical controls. The only other aircraft I've flown with as heavy controls was the Douglas DC8. All hand flown approaches sharpened pilot skills. I might shoot 5-6 approaches a day in winter commuter operations. Several of those approaches might be to Aspen (Pitkin Co.) It was commonly considered the most difficult approach in the lower 48 states. I went on to fly heavy jets for DHL for 20+ years. When that job went away I finished my career as a 580 instructor in Mexico.
There isn't time to share the countless stories of this manly aircraft but I will share that the Convair 580 is, to the best of my knowledge, the only large aircraft to have a mid air collision with a small single engine plane and then carry the impacted plane to a successful landing. If anyone reading this needs a 580 instructor feel free to contact me.
@@janwalor736 one of my best friends in my life (still is) worked as a station manager for Aspen Airways, in Durango! He 1st worked for Frontier, in Riverton Wyoming, & Sheridan.for about 20 years. Then, after deregulation; Frontier got rid of their 580's & leased them to Combs Airways. They paid pittance, so he left, & got with Aspen. Would you know who I'm talking about without naming him on the internet?
Teddy Pittsinger Didn't get to know many station people but my wife was a flight attendant on a 580 that slid off the Durango runway in a snowstorm. Tore off the gear and curled the props but everyone walked away. The Aspen pilot that "dead sticked" a 580 into South Park just died not long ago. That means he landed without engines running. I personally left one of my main landing gear wheels in Montrose on takeoff and successfully landed at the old DIA airport. Great old plane.
@@janwalor736, I was in Grand Junction when that happened! I remember that same winter, a Continental Express did the same exact thing. The FAA said it had something to do with the way the run way was made? Something about a blind spot? He was there when that happened. Yes, the 580 s were great planes!! And Aspen had those BAe 146 's that took almost no runway to take off. The good old days! The guy you are talking about that "dead sticked". That happened outside of the little town of Buena Vista. My friend said he tried the "gun barrel' highway in the San Luis valley. But, 'Murphy's Law', it had too much traffic. SO, he found a dirt road, landed, but the old dirt farm road had a 90 degree turn. He barely made the turn, & plowed into a cornfield. The Convair should have been beat to death. Yet, it was okay until it hit a stack of logs, & tore up the front landing gear. God Rest that old guys soul. ( Jan Walor, I had to edit this, because of my lack of consideration! AND, I got on the phone, & text my buddy) For sure same accident! He said the old guy just died. C U around on another Convair!
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That noise it makes as the props directly pass the camera at 5:36 is just spine-tingling.
+patakanz Nice looking and nice sounding aircraft. Thanks for watching and commenting,
Anthony
For me nothing compares to the looks and sound of the CV580.
Growing up in Fayetteville, AR I watched the Orignal Frontier Airlines CV-580s flying over our farm almost every day, they would usually lower the landing gear as they flew overhead on final to FYV (Drake Field).
My first flight was probably on a Frontier Convairliner (not sure if it was a 340, 440, 580, or 600) in late 1967 at 2 months old when my mother took me to Canada to visit her mother, apparently I loved flying then and I still do!
We made many trips to visit relatives in Canada and usually flew Frontier CV-580s out of FYV but sometimes it was on Scheduled Skyways (locally known as Scareways! And after acquisition by Air Midwest as Mid-Air Scare!)Metroliners.
When Frontier pulled out of FYV Metroflight bought some of Frontier's CV-580s and began service to numerous airports formerly served by Frontier.
I really miss flying in the 580 and those big comfortable seats, watching those HUGE Props and the Roar of those Allison 501-D13H powerplants.
I still get to hear them as the USAF trains all C-130 crews at Little Rock Air Force Base in Jacksonville, AR. FYV is one of several airports that are used for Touch and Go practice and all C-130s currently in USAF Service excluding the J models were powered by 4 Allison T-56 with essentially the same props.
I have similar memories of the original Frontier CV-580s flying into Philip Billard Municipal Airport in Topeka, KS, back in the 1970s. Those were some great days! I remember one day in particular where we had three Frontier 580s on the ramp at the same time! I'm guessing there were weather delays somewhere in the system. I also remember seeing the FL CV-580s in Hot Springs, AR, and at Tri-City Airport in east-central Kansas. I miss those days.
An L-188 compares to the looks and sound!
@@mauricewright1367 me too. Did frontier fly jets into Topeka?
Anderson, Frontier had a couple of 600s around, at that time. They acquired time from the old Central Airlines. They (Central), & Texas International were the only American companies that had them. (Anyway, so I read.)
@@tedpittsinger9688 Yes, they did. I think it was around 1976 or 1977 when Forbes AFB, south of town, was reconfigured for commercial service, and the 737s started flying in. The base still had air shows at the time, and I remember times when they'd have a pause in the show to allow a Frontier flight to land or take off. I always loved that!
I really like these 580's with the turbo-prop engine's..best thing they ever did to them...I can imagine the performance improvement over the old piston engine's..and those were pretty good anyway...what a beautiful aircraft..if i was rich i would definitely buy and fly one....i am falling in love with this one
+The Fart Powered Cyclist I like the head on view while the props are still spinning, as you said it is a beautiful aircraft.
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Anthony.
I flew both - right seat in the 240 & 440, 1966-68, the left seat in the 580, in 1972. (BAC 1-11 copilot in the interim period)There is no adequate description of the difference. The 2,000 HP Pratt and Whitney originals were a great pleasure because they were my first airline experience, usually flying half of up to 8 legs per day, no auto pilot. The 580 had exactly double the horsepower on the same airframe. The climb rate tripled and cruise speeds went from 210 knots to 250 and, with a lighter load, to 280, which was the airframe limitation. In training,(At PIT) we would feather one prop and motor along at 250 with no problem. It was almost a disappointment to get back into turbojets in 1973, but the pay was much better.
@@vincentsbardella4448 porque no se han construido aviones , tan potentes y seguros cono este convair ?? el 580 es la maxima. expresion de un turbo helice , aun en estos momentos... el mismo fuselaje y alas , mas el mismo motor levemente modificado, resultaria en una avion de corto alcance , sencillo y absolutamente seguro // es una especie de DC-3 tan bueno , pero superior.. creo que la seguridad y LA ECONOMIA.. esta en lus turbo helice...a futuro
Gracias por compartir tan hermoso video de el mejor turbo hélice de su época, sin lugar a dudas. El Convair 580 no tenía rival. Tuve la inmensa suerte de colarlo varios años y de verdad, fue una experiencia única en inolvidable.Una vez más, muchas gracias...
Sin duda el 580 es un avión precioso.
¡Nunca tuve la suerte de volar en uno y esa oportunidad se esfumó!
Gracias por ver y comentar,
Antonio.
Love the sound of the APU starting first, which is located in the right engine nacelle. Its interesting to note that swishing sound when they start engine number 2, the paddle props alternately masking the APU sound as the blade spin faster...
Now I know what was making that sound at start up. A quick google followed. Interesting to see that the military versions of these Allison 501-D's is in the Hercules and Orions.
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Anthony.
Yes, as the plane taxis out of the gate, if you notice the side of the engine nacelle a small vertical oval pill shaped opening, that is the APU exhaust. Normally you can see soot stains that trail backwards from the APU spot, but apparently they keep it nice and clean.
Sound so so beautiful. Thanks for sharing greatly appreciated
Matt Gibby Thanks Matt, beautiful aircraft also.
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Anthony
That is such a great little plane! Super video.Thanks!
You will be able to find more Convair videos on my channel.
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Anthony.
Excelente
También me gusta, me gusta especialmente la toma cuando se detiene en el delantal y el sol se refleja en las hélices.
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Antonio
Great Catch of this perpetual classic!
I had the fortune of having flown on one of these once. Also, when traveling in the Great Lakes region of the United States, I saw others from Wright Air Lines (640 with R-R Darts), Freedom Airlines (640s), SMB Stage Line (580 Freighter), and possibly some other as well. In México, there was Aerolíneas Unidas S.A. (the 580 like this one), Aero Leon (440 Pratt & Whitney radial powered), and Interestatal (also P&W), and at least one (640 with Darts) still flies for Aeronaves T.S.M.
Thanks a Lot for Sharing!
Thanks for your wonderful comments,
Anthony
@anthony851
You're welcome, Anthony!
Es el mejor video que he visto de un Convair580, simplemente espectacular.
José Elías Díaz Gómez
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Antonio
Great looking aircraft, even after all these years
No argument from me! More Convair videos on my channel.
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Anthony.
what a beautiful beast those planes were ....
Particularly so in the shot where it is shutting down on the apron in the nice light.
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Anthony
Great video. Loved the 580’s. Beta range was the coolest sound ever. What “ muscle” plane😄
Please take the time to check out more Convair's that are on my channel.
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Anthony
This aircraft should've evolved into a 110 passenger 4 engine airliner. Would've been nice. The 580s are super cool.
You are the first to come up with the evolution theory, maybe that was the role taken up by the Lockheed Electra albeit with about 80 seats.
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Anthony
What a fantastic noise!
No argument from me, sadly something we won't hear anymore as Air Chathams have retired their Convairs.
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Anthony
Great footage! Gorgeous choice of shutter speed for to get the propellers! Thanks for sharing with us!
The shutter speed was 1/50 sec, twice the video frame rate on my D7000.
Air Chathams have scheduled flights using Convair to the Chatham Islands and have just announced a weekly flight to Norfolk Island, it is my goal to fly one of those routes.
More Convair videos on my channel.
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Anthony.
is this the same 501D (T-56)/ Aeroproducts prop combo used on the P-3 Orion? Very cool. (including the proximity to the ground at full nose gear depression...."crosscheck for pucker?" "puckered and whistling"
According to Wiki it is used in early C-130's and P-3 Orion's.
Coincidentally stablemate ZK-CIB was in Kerikeri today. Video will be uploaded when I have edited.
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Anthony.
que buen video...se aprecia toda la potencia de ese magnifico avion...y ese sonido característico de Turboprop...gracias por compartirlo
that nice video ... full power of this magnificent plane ... and that characteristic sound of turboprop ... thanks for sharing it can be seen
Agreed, a magnificent aircraft.
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Anthony.
De acuerdo, una magnífica aeronave.
Gracias por ver y comentar,
Antonio.
I don’t know much about Aircrafts but I’m beginning to have so much feelings for them. They can be programmed for such GREATNESS but looks like at times they’ve been programmed for SELFISH REASONS & THIS SHOULD NEVER BE TOLERATED.
Now when I look at Aircraft’s, It’s like I see Eyes, That Long Nose...Aircrafts should be FOREVER RESPECTED!
Interesting comments.
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Anthony.
Aircraft ZK-CIF WAS ALSO KNOWN AS 73167 at Frontier Airlines, a Convair 440 originally. This arcraft came from Sabina in 1968 and converted to a 580 by Frontier airlines.
I'll update the description, thanks for the extra history.
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Anthony.
I remember these here in the 60's and 70's. Frontier, North Central then Republic used them. I flew on one from Denver back here in 1968 when I was 9. Never would fly again. lol. No chance. Luckily I came back still 9. Flew out on a United 4 engine prop plane but don't remember the model they used for those here. Could have been multiple models. If your into Airport movies as me and my friends were, you'll see one sitting at the Salt Lake Airport on the movie Airport '75. There's also a Frontier 737 shown. Not the topic here. lol.
+Chas S I don't think I had seen a Convair until this one flew into Kerikeri.
I would fly in one, but it would be a joy ride. They are flying from Auckland to Whakatane, fly down and back just to say I had flown in one.
I am now on the lookout for Convairs when I fly in or out of Auckland. Have a look at google maps and there is one on the apron at the eastern end of the airport.
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Anthony
One of the coolest aircraft I have ever seen and sounds very similar to a C130 Hercules
They are cool aircraft and should sound much like a 2 turboprop Hercules as they use a civilian version of the of the same engine.
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Anthony.
Beautiful bird!
No argument from me. More Convair videos on my channel.
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Anthony.
Beautiful camera work
And a beautiful aircraft. Sadly Air Chathams isn't flying them anymore.
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Anthony.
Great video!
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Anthony
A Convair like this one hit a mountain in Arkansas at cruise speed , scud running in the dark - Texas International Airlines 655 ,1973........the wreckage is so high and isolated that it remains to this day.
I had not heard the scud running term so I looked it up, "The goal of scud running is to stay clear of weather to continue flying with visual, rather than instrument, references." To a lay person it would seem rather dangerous flying in the dark without instruments.
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Anthony.
Texas International flew Convair 600's, RR engines on a 240 airframe, just an FYI. The larger Convairs with with RR engines were 640's.
@tomsamuelson8512 ....one of the saddest, most ironic things about this accident( you can find it on Wikipedia) is , the co-pilot identified where they were- by listening to navaids and looking at his chart - he had been uneasy about what the captain was telling him, i.e., "it's all flat out here, quit worrying"......but didn't have time to get it across before the impact. To give you an idea how low they were - the VOR they were going to overfly- broadcast "Page" - gave the MEA as 4,400 feet ; the captain had him flying at 2,000, and they hit terrain 600 feet below the top of the ridge.
Beautiful aircraft!
Un lindo avión con dos motores ALLISTON mismos que utiliza EL HÉRCULES C 130
Sí, el Convair funciona con un Allison 501 D13D/H, una versión civil de los Allison que alimentan al C-130 Hercules.
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Antonio
Combustible JP1
Flew the Frontier 440's and 580's in the late 50's and mid 60's. I flew to Lincoln, NE student fare for about $35.00 from Alamogordo, NM.
Sadly I never got to fly in one of these an now won't have the chance in NZ as they have been retired.
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At 2:25, was that the APU starting up?
Here is an earlier comment I received about the APU, "Love the sound of the APU starting first, which is located in the right engine nacelle. Its interesting to note that swishing sound when they start engine number 2, the paddle props alternately masking the APU sound as the blade spin faster".
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Awesome video buddy:)
Cool, thanks. There are a few more Convair videos on channel.
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Anthony
Я сам на Аn24/26/32 налетал дофига. Мне этот самолёт нравится. Старая школа. Обводы фюзеляжа , а звук движков???
Мне не посчастливилось летать на Convair.
Это нечто прекрасное, построенное в то время, когда все было более элегантно.
Больше видео Convair от AKL и WLG на моем канале.
Спасибо за просмотр и комментарий,
Энтони
Nice vid. The convair is one of my favourites. Which airline operates this particular aircraft. There are three at Palmerston North at the moment operated by airfreight nz. Very cool, good looking, nice sounding, classic turboprop airliner.
Owned and operated by Air Chathams.
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Anthony.
I'm curious about those dual HF antennas--why are there two of them?
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, it's the two wires running from the top of the fuselage near the front, to the leading edge of the tail. Normally an aircraft with HF capability will only have a single antenna, so it's unusual to see two.
Sorry I can't help you with your query. Hopefully someone better informed will read your comment and give the answer.
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Anthony.
Hey, thanks for the reply, and thanks also for an excellent video!
AlaskaMike72... HF1 & HF2. Serves two purposes 1)Redundancy: incase one fails.
2)Legal operational requirement. Most likely this aircraft flies Oceanic routes out of VHF range requiring two forms of LRCS's (long range communication systems). Hope this helps.
Thanks for the information, I knew someone out there would be able to help.
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Anthony.
Hermoso y potente Convair 580, uno de los mejores vídeos de tan excelente avión... AVENSA lo operó por largos años con excelente mantenimiento y hábiles pilotos. Fué una bellísima época que marcó historia en la aviación venezolana. Tuve el privilegio de estar ahí....Gracias por tan hermoso video... Cuantos recuerdos...
Thank you for sharing. I love the old bird. I try to learn and understand all I can. Do you know if there is a total number of hours that the airframe can take? Where do you found crews to fly this, how to they train? Share parts, can you still find/buy them. If I was rich, rich enough to have personal aircraft, I would say, hell no to a GIII, hell no to a G5, hell no to a Lear, HELL YES to a CV-580
Sorry Johnny, I can't help you with any of the details. I got a call telling me this beautiful aircraft was flying to Kerikeri.
I saw 1 land last Saturday landing as we taxied in a ATR 72 after landing on a flight from Palmerston North. When our Q300 flight took off I saw several Convairs at the eastern end of Auckland airport.
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Anthony.
Comment from Craig Evans.
I fly one and most of the parts come from Kelowna Flightcraft (KFC) Yes KFC!
Great strong aircraft that gives you a work out every time you fly it. Ours is a tanker.
This one in particular has over 75,000 hours & 125,000 cycles. She is the highest cycle example in the world still operating and still polishes up nicely. There is no airframe life limit, they are incredibly robust aircraft. There are two flight simulators in the world for the CV-580, one at Kelowna Flightcraft (TC Holder) in Canada & the other with Air Chathams on the Chatham Islands. Most parts are still easy enough to get and cheap compared to most modern stuff, anything not readily available Kelowna can manufacture. Can buy old CV-340 out of the desert for as low as 10K USD and a decent CV-580 for 650K USD. Disadvantages when compared with modern types are fuel consumption & noise which are side effects from the very powerful Rolls Royce/Allison engines.
Cyrus Taylor Thanks for the history on ZK-CIF.
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Anthony
Cyrus Taylor Thanks
Beautiful plane
They are beautiful aircraft, I particularly like the shot when it is sqare on to the camera and you can see the props are larger than the fuselage. It makes a cool noise also.
The last of Air Chatham's Convairs is about to be retired. It's last trip flies out of AKL next Friday, down to WLG and then out to the Chathams on an excursion and returns on Sunday.
I will be going down to AKL and video it leaving.
fly.airchathams.co.nz/?Farewelling_the_Convair_580&
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Very powerful sounding engines on takeoff!!!
It would need lots of power to drive those big props.
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CONVAIR IS AWESOME!!!! btw did they remove the viewing platform from the terminal at Kerikeri when they renovated it 6 months ago?
There is still an outside viewing area but it is not at the end of the terminal anymore, it's about 10m or so from the corner of the building blocking the view of the apron. The video I shot of N899CH landing is taken from the viewing area.
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Anthony.
@@anthony851 wait so you can see the runway now but not the taxi way and apron? That must suck
I used to fly the CV-580 for Frontier Airlines in the mid 1970s! Never really liked the plane because of its complexity. But I have a lot of respect for it because they took a mid 1930s designed aircraft fitted with 1200 HP piston engines on the 240, later upgraded them to the 340 with somewhere around 1800 hp piston engines, then retrofitted that pre WW ll design with those Allison engines cranking out 3400 hp, over twice the horsepower of the original piston engines. Not many designs could handle that without coming apart at the seams! One very tough air frame!
Flying as long as they have also must be an indication of their robustness.
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We bought two of the Frontier birds and flew them in Alaska, N73168 and N73127 I think. No autopilot. The ex-North Central Convairs, via QuebecAir, had a higher gross weight, APU instead of a GTC, anti skid and fuel dump,,,, oh, and an autopilot. Loved them !
@@anthony851 Indeed! The complexity I referred to involved the electrical systems. The original design was based on DC electrical components. The Allison engines required a lot of AC components. On the CV 580 each engine had a DC AND an AC generator. Two separate electric systems, very complex, that seemed to resent each other. Aircraft designed around those Allisons, like the C-130 and Lockheed L-188, have much simpler to understand electrical systems. But as I said, I know of few air frame designs that could hold together when over twice the original power was hung on those wings!
@@joetocayo Cool! I'm sure if I checked my log books I would find those two birds! I was told FAL removed the auto pilots because they believe auto pilots would degrade pilot skills. Only reason they didn't do that when they acquired the B-737 is FAA wouldn't have allowed it! After a day of hand flying those unassisted controls one knew he had been in a wrestling match! I can only imagine how some of today's 110 pound lady pilots would fare in those without auto pilots! Yeah, that GTE left a lot to be desired! When fired up it sounded like a dinosaur belching! I only flew the 580 at FAL for 4 months before upgrading to the 737.
Hi, According to some internet sources they say the 240 had 2100 HP for take-off and the 340 had 2400 HP for take-off. The 580 had 3750 HP for take-off. These are all per engine..But it doesn;t matter much, they were all fun to fly on
this could of very well had been one of north central/ republic airlines aircrafts many years ago. they were very well built and maintaining them wasn't a problem, pilots loved flying them. they retired them because most big airlines weren't flying turboprops anymore. its rather sad because the first and last time i flew republic airlines was in a convair. the day i fly in another will never happen. those who fly in them are so lucky
+trainboy20072009
I can't find the link I found earlier, it had all the countries this aircraft had been based in. Belgium and in the far north of the USA in Alaska.
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yes many countries used them, lots came from airlines and sold to companies or smaller airlines. i wished they would still make them, these twin engine planes were tough
+trainboy20072009 goo.gl/4jJ9df for the history of this aircraft.
Anthony
Is there any place where they flight these planes taking passengers around? I am sure that there are enough enthusiasts to make it profitable.
Air Chathams has several of these aircraft. They fly from Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch to the Chatham Islands. There is talk about extending the runway on the Chathams to accommodate a 737.
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Anthony.
anthony851 Nolinor in Canada still flys the CV 580 in passenger service as well!
Sadly due to changing regulations (reinforcement of cockpit doors) Air Chathams will be forced to retire their CV 580s from passenger service around 2021.
There is a group The Northliner Foundation
m.facebook.com/NorthlinerFDN/
and one of their eventual goals is to purchase a CV 580 or CV 340/440 I’m passenger configuration and fly her to air shows around the country especially those communities that were served by airlines using the Convairliners!
And yes they plan on selling rides!!!
@@andersonnettleship845 Actually, Air Chathams have met the requirements for the cockpit doors so they can keep using the Convairs for now, but maintenance is putting them down anyway.
avion bimotor extraordinario ... poque no se siguio fabricando...??? es muy,muy buen avion
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Antonio
What was a piston engine is now a Allison turboprop used also by the USN P-3 bomber all around our nation and the allies too.
NZ has P-3 Orions also and they share with the Hercules a military version of this turboprop.
More Convair's can be found on my channel.
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@@anthony851 Japan has P-3s still flying with Allison turboprops as well as the United States.
That chrome & pristine white makes it look brand new! Is this another 340 that got a pair of Allisons ? The 580 was a stretch version of the 340, by the original Frontier Airlines, 1964. 'General Dynamics', the parent company of Convair cut a deal of a lifetime with Frontier over that. And the 1st 580 to roll out was June 1st, 1964. I don't want to act like a know it all. But it's a huge article that proves it in 'Airliners Magazine', in the 911 edition (73) & Wikipedia.! A lot of people think 'General Dynamics stopped making commercial aircraft in 1961, after the failure of the 990. It just quit thinking toward jets!
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Anthony.
@@anthony851 No. Thank you for this awesome vid!
Convair should have come out with a four engined turbo prop version of this,plus a rear engined,727 style jet,they would probably still be around today.
Imagine what 4 of those big props would sound like chopping through the air!
Yes it is a beautiful aircraft and there are more of them on my channel.
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Actually, there is a 4-engined aircraft powered by Allison 501s like you mentioned that exists, although made by Lockheed; the L-188 Electra
Are you a rail fan as well, your logo looks like a cut train rail?
Thanks for the video a beautiful aircraft, alas no more.
Yes I am a railfan, as you will see on my channel most videos are of something that turns fuel into noise.
The CV-580'2 have been retired by Air Chathams, we went down to AKL for the departure of the last flight.
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Could it's piston predecessor been louder than this? Also, freaky that you
don't see the actual runway surface!
They make a glorious sound. The runway is not level, look at the shot when the plane turns around and you will see a high point.
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beautifull turbopropeller C- 580
It certainly is a beautiful aircraft.
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greteengs from NUEVO LEON ´´APODAKA´´ mexico ´´
That's a REAL airplane. That bird was built as a 340 or 440 btw in early 50's and converted to a 580 circa 1965.
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I wish Air Chathams would do a Auckland to Palmerston North and Palmerston North Auckland Route
so either you could choose classic plane or Modern Plane to fly to auckland
so if that happened Palmy would have KRA , Air New Zealand and Air Chathams flying in . When i mean it coming to Palmerston North is for Domestic Passenger flights
2 - 4 flights a day would be good and the price ( Fare ) should be $90 per passenger
plus i think Air Chathams should invest in some ATR 72s ( With a New Livery ) .
Jo Tyers I'd fly in a Convair also. Add some excitement to the flight,The trouble with modern aircraft is that they are sanitized to sterility, very little sensation you are flying.
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What country is ZK?
ZK is for New Zealand. KKE or NZKK is Bay of Islands airport at Kerikeri. We are about 260km north of Auckland, biggest city in NZ.
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@@anthony851 Ok sir, You're very kind,thanks.I've always admired such a great country.
NIce aeroplane...I believe that Air Chathams in New Zealand have just retired the bird??
Yes, a very nice looking aircraft.
Air Chathams have retires their Convairs. I went down to AKL and shot video of the last departure to the Chatham Islands.
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what a beast! :- D
Great looking and sounding aircraft.
More Convair videos on my channel.
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I think Air Chathams needs a second hand Bombardier Q300 ( with a new Livery )
Jo Tyers it should be built between 1992-2000 for about $2-3.5 Million
How many should they get 2-4
I like these Allison Turboprops because they have a nice calm drone to them whereas the Roll Royce Dart has the horrible air piercing scream which is annoying especially if you live near and Airport .
+Jo Tyers The Fokker frienship had those screaming turbo"s didnt they?
+Jeff Atkinson yes they did
+Jeff Atkinson and so did the HSS 748 mount cook airlines
Loved the smell of avgas when on the apron
+Jeff Atkinson yes nothing like aviation fuel
As a fan of old shitty airplanes, this video is great. 👍🏽
It is a beautiful old plane. I have been lucky to catch this aircraft and another Convair belonging to Air Chathams at Kerikeri and Wellington airports.
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this is how i remember them, my dad took me out to see the F-16 Fighting Falcon at the local airport, i suddenly lost all interest in the F-16 and spent most of the time watching this bird. ever since i've loved it and still to to this day
most of these that were still in operation went to air resort in california or some went to canadian airlines
Plus i think these Conviars have about about 10-20 years of life still in them until it is jew for full retirement so 2020-30 around about then .
+Jo Tyers Best go for a flight in a Convair now that they are flying AKL/WHK before Air Chathams buy something more modern.
Anthony
There is not set life limit on them.
This CV-580 sounds like C-130
The CV-580 has a civilian version of the turboprops that are in the C-130.
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Anthony.
Me too
MACHINES and PROPELERs HERCULES C130, BRASIL OK.
The Convairs use a civilian version of the turboprops that power the Hercules and Orion aircraft.
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Anthony
@@anthony851 ok antoni , fron brasil electra ponte aérea rio são paulo ok.
Any Convair CV -580 for sale?
I wouldn't know where to start looking, but someone might be be able to answer the question.
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Anthony
Excelente
Infelizmente, todos os Air Chathams Convairs estão aposentados agora e não os veremos em Kerikeri novamente.
Obrigado por assistir e comentar,
Antônio.