Great explanation! You didn’t explained the benefits and drawbacks of each technology… Personally for my home use i prefer using LI UPS because of the low battery maintenance
The Line-interactive will work fine with computers, but does not provide the same level of power quality as the true online ups. Computers can typically handle a break in power up to 50 milliseconds without shutting down. The typical 8-10 millisecond transfer time of a Line-interactive ups does not cause a problem. However, the online ups provides better voltage regulation, a built in bypass in case of internal failure, and zero transfer time to battery.
@@MidChes Thank you for the answer. I also read that a good UPS provides Pure Sine Wave energy, is that THAT important or a pseudo-sine works fine? I will use the UPS just to run my pc when there's a power loss, so I can shut it down as fast as I can.
The PC will stay on until the battery is depleted. The tiny flicker in the lightbulb resembles a delay of a fraction of a second between the loss of utility power and the switching to the battery. Capacitors in your computers power supply will bridge over this short gap. Some non-computer UPS systems, like those of off-grid battery power stations may switch too slow to keep a PC on. But with any PC or server UPS you will be fine.
@ thanks for your message! Questions about manufacturing specifics would have to be directed to Orion Power. We don't get involved at that level. Thanks again!
I wouldn't buy an online UPS that makes a beeping noise every few seconds during a power interuption. Other brands like APC don't have that beeping noise in their Online selection of UPS's, so I would be more inclined to purchase from them instead.
Hi, just want to know if this kind of online ups generates noise by itself, in audio studio environments it is best to avoid things that generates noise ....so just to put you in context, hehe :)
I’m researching this stuff for the same purpose, what I’ve come across so far is that this gives you clean power thus no noise. Only possible noise would be from other sources in your signal chain but power would not be the issue with online ups. Good luck in your audio journey!
Also line-interactive has basically no losses when passing trough the current compared to online-UPS where you have losses in transformers all the time, meaning higher electricity bill.
Sorry but Maybe not the best advertisement you have made. I have never once in my life seen any UPS made any light, display or yes anything dim or flicker, even the cheapest no names. I find it concerning that you have a model who clearly does not work as an UPS should, and imagine you have build and found it okay, sold and recommended that unit to buyers who clearly did thought that got an Uninterruptible Power Supply! Your prior model did clearly not even compete with an $50 no name from China. And you did still recommend it at that time. How do I know this model is up to standard with other top brands or even an "use and trow out model"? :-) EDIT: You have made a great video with great explanation and good demonstration, all in all a really good video. But do you self a favor, do select an other brand or hide the fact that it's your own brand, you use as a "bad example" unit :-)
The real terminology is a UPS v. SPS. a TRUE Uninteruptable Power Supply (UPS) keeps a charge on battery which supplies DC Voltage to an inverter that is supplying AC to your equpment. A Standby Power Supply (SPS) (which is sold incorrectly as a UPS) DETECTS the loss (or low voltage) of incoming power and SWITCHES a battery on which is connected to an inverter to supply your equipment. This SWITCH can cause a disruption in power to your sensitive devices, esp any computer related devices which might cause them to re-boot (and lose anything you were working on). A TRUE UPS is MUCH better for anything that has a computer attached to it. whereas a SPS is more equipt for a toaster!
Tell me. If the battery inside the UPS you described were to just die, out of nowhere. (Please humour me here, as it's happened before). Would your "True" Uninterruptible Power Supply still allow the power from the mains (which, in this example has not had any interruption or fault) to power the units on the other side of the UPS? Or, would the dead battery block the power from making its way through the system. Because, if the latter, how is it truly Uninterruptible?
TRUE ONLINE UPS is GARBAGE! old age trash. it prematurely ages battery, it is less effective (loses more energy on all that additional ac-to-dc conversion). and so on..
Soo the orion brand with line interactive is not enough fast for keep electricity, it is proove only that. Thank you.
LI ups make long life battery cost right?
Great explanation!
You didn’t explained the benefits and drawbacks of each technology…
Personally for my home use i prefer using LI UPS because of the low battery maintenance
True online will be noisy 24/7, so unless it’s in a cupboard, you will hear the fans
Very nice demonstration...
on a PC case scenario, does it turn off when using a LI UPS ?
The Line-interactive will work fine with computers, but does not provide the same level of power quality as the true online ups. Computers can typically handle a break in power up to 50 milliseconds without shutting down. The typical 8-10 millisecond transfer time of a Line-interactive ups does not cause a problem. However, the online ups provides better voltage regulation, a built in bypass in case of internal failure, and zero transfer time to battery.
@@MidChes Thank you for the answer. I also read that a good UPS provides Pure Sine Wave energy, is that THAT important or a pseudo-sine works fine? I will use the UPS just to run my pc when there's a power loss, so I can shut it down as fast as I can.
@@miguelmoreira5248 For a small PC application a stepped sine wave model is fine. The Orion Office Pro series works great for that.
The PC will stay on until the battery is depleted. The tiny flicker in the lightbulb resembles a delay of a fraction of a second between the loss of utility power and the switching to the battery. Capacitors in your computers power supply will bridge over this short gap.
Some non-computer UPS systems, like those of off-grid battery power stations may switch too slow to keep a PC on. But with any PC or server UPS you will be fine.
@@Aranimda I'm doing good with my UPS indeed, thank you!
can you recommend some units at entry level price points?
Orion Power Systems DC1500RTX1 for a rack mount version or OP2000U-G2 for a desktop/floor. Thanks!
@@MidChes In Hungary I see the same model but under the brand of "nJoy Balder". Is that a ripoff of Orion Power Systems or are they the same inside?
@ thanks for your message! Questions about manufacturing specifics would have to be directed to Orion Power. We don't get involved at that level. Thanks again!
What is the best ups for dvr ( dvr hikvision ds-7204hghi-f1 + 4 cameras 2mp )
Hi, consider the Orion Power Systems DC1500RTX1 for a rack mount or OP2000U-G2 for a desktop. Thanks!
@@mattgolueke5167 thanks 😃
I do not know but mine does not flicker like that.
Best explained ..
I wouldn't buy an online UPS that makes a beeping noise every few seconds during a power interuption. Other brands like APC don't have that beeping noise in their Online selection of UPS's, so I would be more inclined to purchase from them instead.
get an inverter they only beep once until they are about to die.
Hi, just want to know if this kind of online ups generates noise by itself, in audio studio environments it is best to avoid things that generates noise ....so just to put you in context, hehe :)
I’m researching this stuff for the same purpose, what I’ve come across so far is that this gives you clean power thus no noise. Only possible noise would be from other sources in your signal chain but power would not be the issue with online ups. Good luck in your audio journey!
@@jkkdf44 thanks a lot.
I have both UPS systems and they both work fine but I agree an online UPS is superior. LI is just cheaper and easier to maintain.
Also line-interactive has basically no losses when passing trough the current compared to online-UPS where you have losses in transformers all the time, meaning higher electricity bill.
would a PC turn OFF with a LI UPS? I would be very thankful if you answer
@@miguelmoreira5248 depends on pc PSU but you want to avoid stepped sine wave
@@blanchbacker ty
@@miguelmoreira5248 noop
Nice explination.
Understood
Very good
Sorry but Maybe not the best advertisement you have made.
I have never once in my life seen any UPS made any light, display or yes anything dim or flicker, even the cheapest no names.
I find it concerning that you have a model who clearly does not work as an UPS should, and imagine you have build and found it okay, sold and recommended that unit to buyers who clearly did thought that got an Uninterruptible Power Supply!
Your prior model did clearly not even compete with an $50 no name from China. And you did still recommend it at that time. How do I know this model is up to standard with other top brands or even an "use and trow out model"? :-)
EDIT: You have made a great video with great explanation and good demonstration, all in all a really good video. But do you self a favor, do select an other brand or hide the fact that it's your own brand, you use as a "bad example" unit :-)
I don’t think you understood what the video was explaining
0:30 OnLine UPS....... Оk
The real terminology is a UPS v. SPS. a TRUE Uninteruptable Power Supply (UPS) keeps a charge on battery which supplies DC Voltage to an inverter that is supplying AC to your equpment.
A Standby Power Supply (SPS) (which is sold incorrectly as a UPS) DETECTS the loss (or low voltage) of incoming power and SWITCHES a battery on which is connected to an inverter to supply your equipment.
This SWITCH can cause a disruption in power to your sensitive devices, esp any computer related devices which might cause them to re-boot (and lose anything you were working on). A TRUE UPS is MUCH better for anything that has a computer attached to it. whereas a SPS is more equipt for a toaster!
Tell me. If the battery inside the UPS you described were to just die, out of nowhere. (Please humour me here, as it's happened before). Would your "True" Uninterruptible Power Supply still allow the power from the mains (which, in this example has not had any interruption or fault) to power the units on the other side of the UPS? Or, would the dead battery block the power from making its way through the system. Because, if the latter, how is it truly Uninterruptible?
100$ compared to 1000$ device! Really!? Whatevr
RTX in 2015 - look Nvidia
TRUE ONLINE UPS is GARBAGE! old age trash. it prematurely ages battery, it is less effective (loses more energy on all that additional ac-to-dc conversion). and so on..
RTX in 2015 - look Nvidia