No power ⚡No problem! How to choose a UPS for your computer 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
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0:00 Start
1:05 How long will the UPS last
2:10 Testing Method
4:49 Small capacity UPS
5:21 650va Results
5:53 850va Results
6:27 1200va Results
6:44 1500va Results
7:35 2000va Results
8:08 Summary
10:07 Conclusion
10:25 What this video doesn’t answer
Episode 310x92x22 - How to choose a ups for your computer
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damn!! the quality of this video is awesome, thank you!
Very useful vid. I always wanted to know the difference between UPS capacities.
Thanks for the info as always. Cheers!
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thankk u sir. very much helpful❤❤❤ im currently looking for this.
grabe almost 20hrs na ata ako nag research about simulated sinewave compatibilities at as pure sinewave nakesyo need daw ng pure para sa mga activated PFC na psu. Naliwanagan ako sa vid na to haha thanks! Earned a sub!
Great info! Thanks
Helpful video!
Lamats sa tip mga paps! More of this insights! 👌🏻
I can only imagine kung anong capacity nung UPS na ginagamit dati sa workplace namin dati kasi hindi naman siya visible pero ang alam ko lang if you plug it to a specific outlet, we have around 10-mins to save our work and turn-off our machines whenever magkaroon ng brown-out sa office. There were over 300 workstations there! Thanks for this informative video!
Salamat Sir!
Eaton, Huawei, Santak, APC and Delta series UPS are available from stock.
checked his components and the wattage of 1 monitor + system unit = 550ish watts
very useful vid
Underrated video
Is a UPS recommended if our home only has 2 prong outlets? (There's no grounding)
For sizing, what i do is i hook up my entire system to a wattmeter, run it at full load via benchmarks or playing a game and checking the total system consumption. From there, i get a UPS with at least double the capacity e.g. My total system consumption for my rig at full tilt is around 600W so i got a 1600W ups. I read this in i believe an APC white paper that modern UPSs are most efficient at around 50% load although they're efficient down to something like 20%. At around 80%, you're losing some of that efficiency to heat generated by the unit plus noise so 50% max load is a nice number to target.
Edit: While not covered in the video, if you have the budget for it, you can go for a double conversion UPS aka "true UPS". Runs your pc entirely on battery and it's constantly charged by mains. No switch over and provides consistent voltage and amperage. They're unfortunately expensive and a bit loud. They used to be less readily available. I used to go straight to a distributor but now APC has one on lazada and Eaton has more distributors now unlike before so they're quite easy to find
this is a very rational way to do it 👍
those apc papers are great, I think I also learned about the non linear discharge from one of their papers
Usually most ups are made from just capacitors, so is not really surprising they don't last.
I wonder though if there's a hybrid like a ups with an actual battery rather than just capacitors?
that's interesting, I'll look into that
how about 1000 va is it enough for plus 2 monitors system unit : ryzen 5 3500 GTX 1650 Card, power supply 600 watts while doing heavy workloads?
this is a good video, testing each scenario. Yung problema ng UPS is halos every 2-3 years mag ffail yung battery kahit hindi mo sya palagi nagagamit, na dedegrade sya, so you have to have it's battery replaced, and replacing battery needs to be brought to a computer repair shop, price of the battery usually is cheaper, but mostly yung common sizes lang na pang 650va lng, so buying those 1000va UPS is okay but after 2 years palitan mo din ng lower va battery unless meron yung shop ng malalaking batteries which is rare, parang part of the maintenance, for me it is still worth it esp. if yung area nyo prone sa frequent brownouts just in time maka pag save ka, what I usually do is have 2 UPS, one for the PC system, and another one for the monitors + ISP router/modem and when it comes to UPS, I always go with APC brand - Those are built like tanks, palitan lang ng battery okay na ulit.
Problem is it's very hard to find replacement battery for UPS. Even the shop I bought it from said to just replace the UPS if you urgently need it cause most shops/distributors don't have readily available battery for replacement and if you are going to request one for your UPS, it will take months. And yes, based on my experience the battery dies in 2-3 years from using.
@@melalcantara4377 actually yan yung problema ko, yung dati kong UPS na may 1000va, after a year at natapos lang yung warranty lumobo yung battery kaya pina replace ko pero ni-replace is maliit lang na battery yung pang 650va lang. Wala daw silang stock for higher battery. So my current UPS has only a lower wattage lang that is around 300watts compared dati ng 600watts. Wala din ako mahanapan na battery, di ko naman alam mag DIY. Nakakalito din mag search ng battery, 12v 7ah ata yung 650va, and 9ah naman yung 1000va, I might be wrong though. If mag replace ka ng whole unit parang nag tatapon ka lng ng UPS, na dapat yugn problema is battery lang not the unit itself.
UPS is a necessity especially for us desktop pc users. An APC BR1500MS2 Back-UPS PRO is a good UPS, made in Pinas, true sine wave yung output nya so less conflict with sensitive electronics like battery chargers. If funds allow, it's better to go for the biggest power load capacity like 1.5kVA or 900 watts, for more headroom in back-up run time. Don't overload the UPS, transfer the less essential plugs into the "surge-protect only" outlets of the UPS. Also replace batteries after the 3rd year or so.
Saan po kayo nakabili ng BR1500MS2? Naghahanap po ako niyan exact model
hi i just wanna ask if the Prolink brand is good ups? i wanted to get a ups because there is always a random brownout here in our area.
EDIT : i just wanted to have a time to turn off my pc and save my stuff. i dont need my pc running all the way. my pc is Ryzen 5600x RTX 3070 750w PSU. should i get the 1500 va? i hope my comment will notice thank you.
Is UPS Njoy 1000Va/600Watt is good as ups? And doest it support pc 3060Ti ? Please I need help in this and you got the experience.I hope you can answer me and thank you!!
how about a mac mini + single monitor?
will 1200va suffice for a setup with a 4090 or would you recommend something else? my system is as follows: 7900x, 4090 tuf oc, x670e proart, firecuda 520 1tb, gskill x flare 5600 64gb, seasonic vertex gx 1000w, dell ultrasharp u3223qe, and huion kamvas 22 pen display. im also planning to fill out all the available ssd slots in the future, if that matters. the rig is primarily for 3d animation and rendering. thanks for any feedback you can provide
2kva
May tatlong klasi naman ng ups
1. Offline ups
2. Line interactive
3. Ung top of the line Online Ups (pure sinewave)
when to replace the ups battery and how.... these are very important questions. you can't simply just get a ups without knowing those things as well. so the video feels a bit of a quicky but doesn't cover everything about the ups buyers guide. though appreciate you at least gave it a mention.
This is so informative i love it!.
"Good day! I recently purchased a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) unit, and I've noticed that the unit becomes warm or even hot during operation. I wanted to inquire if this is considered normal behavior for a UPS, or if it might indicate a potential issue with the unit. Your insights would be greatly appreciated."
Yes, this is normally, when the UPS is running, the internal fan will rotate to dissipate heat.
isinuggest ng kaworkmate ko na elec engineer na need p rin ng voltage regulator pra sa ups kasi may posibilidad na masira rin agad ang ups lalo na kung mayat-maya ang pagkakaroon ng brownout
Would it be fine to plug a power strip to a UPS? This is mostly cuz I have too many things to plug in and the most I can plug into a UPS seems to be 6. I'm not really sure so hoping this gets noticed!
Hi, have u found an answer?
Hi sir, just want to ask question how about pag ang problem is sa mismong wall socket ko parang lack of wattage yun narereceive ng system unit ko? will the ups help sa concern ko?
So kung strictly for gaming lang po, enough na po ba yung good quality AVR na may surge protection? Since ang worry ko lang naman po is wag masira yung system sa surge. Thanks!
Hello gagana po ba ang modified sine wave ups sa psu na may active pfc? Nakacoolermaster po ako 850w gold, kaya po ba ito maisalba kung sakali magblackout?
Not sure if I missed it, but has there been an occasion during your tests that the UPS didn't kick in, not because it couldn't handle the needed power but rather it just didn't?
not that I observed
at least in my experience anyway, the various ups tried always kicked in immediately after the loss of power
@@hwsph thanks!
Usually when that happens, there's something wrong with the battery or, in very rare instances, if there's a fluctation, the power returned right as the relay to switch from battery to mains. There's a really short gap where there's no power at all which shuts down the computer.
Hi, I know this is an old video, but I'm planning to upgrade my rig, my first upgrade will be a PSU to 850watts and then 3060ti (I know 3060ti is okay with 600, but I just don't want to worry if I'll be upgrading to a higher end GPU in the future). I was looking at a ProLink UPS with 1250 VA and as said has the capacity of 936 watts, does that mean it is compatible with 850 Watt PSU or can I get a lower VA with lower Watt rating or will that kill the UPS? My only goal is enough time to send messages and shutdown my pc.
getting a lower capacity UPS won't kill the PSU, it just means you might have less time on battery (ie when the ups is powering the system in case of power failure)
personally with that set up 1250VA is the minimum I would recommend, you can get something below that but you would probably be under extreme urgency to shut down the computer asap
Thank you so much! Appreciate it
nice
What would be the cost on a build with these parts?
1) cost of the build
2) cost of just the parts + shipping
Here are the parts:
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K
Cooler: Lian Li 360mm Galahad AIO or a equivalent air cooler
Motherboard: MSI Z690 Edge WiFi DDR4 -
RAM: XPG Spectrix D60G 3600MHz 32GB (2x8GB) -
Storage: WD Black SN770 1TB NVMe SSD -
GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Z Trio -
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black -
Case Fans: Lian Li UNIFANS SL120 3 Pack Black x2 -
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5
Extensions: Asiahorse Dual EPS Black
sir planning to buy pro-link UPS yung 650va ngayong 9.9 sa lazada, tanong ko lang po if kaya na ito sa PS4 setup ko? PS4 Slim 165watts at Devant tv 50watts..
thnx nahanap ko din sagot sa problema ko, kulang pala talaga ang 650va running with rtx3060 tapos naglalaro ng diablo 4 pag nag brownout rekta shutdown, unlike honkai star rail tumatagal pa sya
U would think this was a halloween special with that dark intro haha
haha shot this very close to halloween so I did feel the vibe, especially the second scene parang around the camp fire kuwentuhan yung dating
sana po nag include kayo ng actual wattage ng power draw, not just "pc + monitor w/gpu" para mas accurate
sir goodmorning ask ko lang laptop at globe@home internet sir okay lang ups higher watts suggestion?
how about po mga average lang ang pc specs but need ng UPS na magatatagal talaga for like 5hrs or so just in case matagal bumalik ang kuryente? sana po masagot.
Walang tanggalan po ba sa outlet ang UPS? or dapat tanggalin. Pra sa pisonet ko sana.
Nice video. Pero bakit walang test if gagana yung 1200Va sa Pc + 1 monitor w/gpu
Goods poba 1st player psu?
I have a 3090, with a R 5800x3d. Just bought a 1000VA 500W UPS, and it just turns off and starts beeping like crazy until I press the button. Should I get a higher VA/W UPS?
yes
What is the RJ 45 in & out for?
I can't figure out if it can help stabilise my Internet router?
In case a power surge hits your router/switch and spikes your LAN.
@@pr0jectSkyneT i have my router power cable plugged into the ups.
Do. I connect the router out to the ups in? & ups out to pc?
Don't understand this bit and can't find any info online. Thank you 😊
@@kpunk4247 you should be good. It's also for PoE switches. For example you have a PoE switch that powers IP cameras. If lightning hits any of the cameras, it would spike the LAN. To protect your PC, you would connect the rj45 input to the PoE switch and the output to your PC for added protection.
If meron namang budget, I will recommend using "Powerstations with UPS function" (i.e Ecoflow River Pro) rather than using traditional UPS. Mas higher ang battery capacity kasi nila na pwedeng tumagal ng 1 hr or more. Pwede pang mag connect ng portable solar panels para mas tumagal. Ma monitor mo din yung power consumption ng PC mo.
How about for Data servers no GPU? What would be the recommended UPS?
Go for commercial ones, meron kami dati sa server room namin 10KVA, can round 10-15 minutes, 4 servers + 5 switches and 1 firewalls. Palit batteries every 1 year.
APC BX625CI-MS goods na po ba ito sa RTX 3070 at i7 9700 po?
Can I plug an extension to the UPS? Within the required wattage
one UPS can connect pieces load, just within the required wattage.
2:12 *Ok lang po ba yung ganyan na 750w ung PSU pero nka plug sya sa 600-650w lang na UPS?*
Sir pwede po nakasaksak palagi sa kuryente yung ups hinde po ba masisira yung baterya pag palagi naka on yung ups.
bakit po ung ups ko is kahit green ung light inidicator nya is nag bebeep parin cya and after ng beep is nag automatic nag off agad pasagot po ty
Hi can i use UPS with out AVR? Outlet to UPS then system unit + periphs to UPS? Thanks
yes you can, additionally most ups already have avr function built into them
@@hwsph thAnks sir
stavol apc brand if afford most trusted brand for me
Good Afternoon po. Okay lang po ba yung 1200VA / 600W na UPS sa 750W na PSU?
i didn't understand anything in this video and english is not my main language although i understand english not completely but i understand most of it i didn't understand what the best solution is for me, anyway, i'll leave my doubt here and waiting for someone to take the time to answer my question:
My current PC has a 450W power supply and has a gpu that is not connected to the power supply, anyway, but next year I'm going to buy a GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS OC gpu and from what I've seen on the net this gpu uses 125 watts, obviously my 450w power supply is not good enough for this gpu so I'm going to buy a 650W or 700W power supply, my question is:
After looking at several UPS's on the platforms I've seen, none of them talk about watts but VAT's, and that's really the question, how many VAT's do I need for a PC 650w/700w + monitor ?
note: my PC is not a fancy PC, not cost thousands € or $
Should I always plug in my ups. It usually gets warm even if I'm not using it.
generally you do want them plugged in all the time to make sure they have juice if the power goes out
our UPS only has router 12V and cctv 12V 3000VA it only lasts 30minutes tama po ba? please help
Also note na overtime nag dedepreciate yung battery ng ups kaya iikli din ang usage sa katagalan. Anyway napapalitan naman yung battery nyan.
idol i5 10th gen 550 watts cougar PSU rx 570 ano dapat gamitin na UPS? goal ko lng atleast proper shutdown lng
This is why I bought a UPS
Anong magandang UPS sa Pc ko gamit ko po na GPU 1660x super + Ryzen 5500
It's your computer ang nagvavary ng wattage and since the ups don't have the battery capacity monitoring hindi mo alam kung naka full charged sya during testing. Para accurate ang testing base on power consumption, gamiting mo ng watt meter or mas ideal ang smart switches with power consumption monitoring.
Normal lang po ba na mag black monitor ko for 3 seconds den babalek den pag hinugot ung ups sa outlet
Curious ako kapag router/switch lang ikonek. Yun lang kasi purpose ko for UPS.
I got a 650va .. 2 cpu per 650va ups .. Secure brand
anong game po ung parang may salamin na hawak
Hingi po sana ako advice. Planning to buy a UPS po pero wala pong proper grounding ang outlets namin (two prong). Should I go for a ups? Gagana pa rin po ba ang surge protection kahit naka plugged-in lang sa two-prong oulet using an adopter?
Hello kamusta, ano pong nabili niyo ?
Sir please help . i'm planning to buy a 1500 va-900 w spec ups. my cpu has 3.2 A and 1 have 2 monitors that has 1.5 A. not for gaming just ill just use it for data processing. okay lang po ba yan?
send your load label to the UPS shop, they will give you a suitable choose.
Such dedication to science.
never let it be said that I placed the health of my pc over the needs of the yt channel 😆
Pwde po ba pro link ups 650 va sa ps4?
Good day Hardware Sugar. I am building an i9-13900k ;RTX 4090; 1200 PSU watts po and 1 monitor only po. What ratings of UPS should I get po? Thanks po.
minimum 2000va but if budget allows for higher va ups then go for the higher va ups
Sir ask ko lang. Paano gamitin ang UPS? Kailangan ba patayin to araw araw?
Was the test conducted after fully charging all the UPS?
yes
good day sir, kakayanin ba ng 650va ang 550w psu computer ko?gusto ko lang ng protection sa mga electricity fluctuation at power surge ok lang kahit di ako makapag save during brown out ang gusto ko lang ma protektahan yung pc components
Please notice po. Have the same question in mind. Thanks po!
Sir bakit pag lumalagitik yung secure ups ko namamatay ang monitor ko bakit kaya??
Hello, Dito ako kasi na curious lang, 650 VA, parang ndi nya kaya ang 2 monitor at cpu .. ilang minutes ba sya icharge or sadyang hindi kaya ng 650 VA, kasi nag brownout at namatay din ang pc, naka amber light sya pag tapos ng shift from 12pm to 3am ph time, is it enought charging point?
I can't answer that, I don't know the monitors involved or what you're trying to run on the pc at the time the ups kicks in and what your pc hardware is
and even if I knew all of those things, as mentioned in the video the rate of power consumption varies, exact same hardware, running the exact same software, using the exact same charge on the exact same UPS, will yield different results
all of the above said, a 650va ups is roughly good only for a load of 390w, this is also mentioned in the video
I can imagine this being insufficient for the set up you described
ano ano function ng UPS?? meron na din ba tung power surge at may function na din na pang AVR?
yes
UPS may serve as backup power for charging other devices no? Like laptops, cellphones, etc.
if you want your device keep minutes supply when AC power outage, UPS is good choose. Such as office computer
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Pwede po bang gawing AVR ang UPS? i mean, hindi naman po nasisira ang UPS kapag may fluctuation ng kuryente? Pangit ng mga AVR ngayon naglalabasan, nasira tuloy monitor ko. 😢
yes most ups already have built in surge protection, ie. they also have the same functions as an avr
(fun fact you're psu also probably has these same protections already built in)
bat ganon ung 2000va prolink nyu, parehas tayo setup kaso 3060 ti ako yon lang pinagkaiba natin. umaabot ako lagpas 10+mins
for me best APC UPS kahit mahal siya it can really save your electronics and i have been using them for almost 15 years and never ko nag ka problema lalo na sa brown out.
i recommended getting the older version of the APC UPS because its more durable than the newer models. I have both 600 and 900 watts UPS and it always save my electronics during brownouts.
reagarding the prolink i might try buy the 2000 va for my new pc im building right now kasi di kaya ng 2 ups ko un isa. buying a 2000 va is more appropriate kasi nasa 1000 watts needed sa pc ko.
naka cdr king ako ng AVR, no problems for 7 years
@@cristobalfernandeziv damn swerte mo. lahat ng cdr king na gamit ko sira na sila, parang may expiration date un mga gamit nila
Lods ask lang po, ilang VA po ba dapat sa pc ko.. Mayroon kaming solar pag mag b out po kasi mag off lang sya tapos mga 1 second babalik lang din agad.. Nag hahanap ako ng UPs para di na sya mag shushutdown.. 1 monitor lang ako 3060ti gpu.. Salamat po sa sagot
1200va is more than enough for what you have
Tnx pooo
this is very timely. dami ko nakita sa tiktok.FB flexing a mini ups for modem only so they can still have wifi while on poweroutage. merong nag aadvertise that they can last somewhere between 3 hours to 12 hours. hmmm
I was tempted to try further tests (how long can it run a cellphone, how long can it run a modem/router) but I think these would take hours, as you mentioned, so maybe we'll do them in a follow up vid 🤔
@@hwsph Thanks in advance HWS! hope you get more customers for your shop and subs in this channel!
2k va with 180ah that I try.
Pwede po ba isaksak ang ups sa extension or need po tlaga na sa wall na saksakan isasaksak? Thank you
can be to extension
Nalilito na ako, bumili ako ng bagong UPS 2000va pero pag nag brownout or disconnect ko sya sa power source off agad yung PC na parang walang UPS na nakakonekta, ganito yung issue ng dati kong UPS na luma na akala ko di lang kaya yung PC ano kaya problema nito?
I believe sa sine wave sya sir, may modified, and true sinewave. Kung yung psu mo ay may active pfc, namimili ito ng source of power. Pag pumasok na power dyan ay modified, maaring ireject niya iyun at magshushutdown padin. Hope that helps
Ano po ung sinewave at pfc
1.2kv is gonna enough for 12400f,6700xt with 2 hard disk and one m2 mvme and 16gb ddr with 1080p 144z monitor with 6 120mm fans😌🙄🙄🙄
yung ups sa school pinag chachargan pag walang kuryente hahahahahahhaah
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makaka fullcharge po ba yung 2000va na ups ng phone in case of brownout
didn't try it but I think definitely yes
Pag mataas po ba ang VA mataas din ang kain sa meralco
Negligible. Backup lang siya. Basically same consumption lang ng kuryente without. When charged, kapag walang kuryente, siya magpoprovide ng power.
npapaltan p b ng battery yn, 2 yrs lng kc tinatagal ng battery life nya, lalo n yung akin cra n yung battery mahal lng ng bili ko 5000 2yrs lng battery sna nman npapaltan battery nya
Hello po bakit ang UPS ko pag blackout parang walang nangyari dretsu off din pc ko
baka hindi kaya ng VA ang pc mo, sabi kasi sa 650, 1 cpu, 1 monitor, na check mo ba ang VA? and also need mo icharge din ang ups, dapat naka amber light lang after use
Sir paano nag brownout samen sigundo lang tas namatay cpu ko eh naka saksak naman cpu ko sa ups dilekado poba yonn
the ups should kick in automatically so it's weird that the pc is still dying even if plugged into the up
@@hwsphsir same issue pag black out dretsu off then pc ko ano po ba dapat gagawin sir
best practice padin na iexpect mo laging below 5mins lang tatagal.. save mo yung files then shutdown na agad. wag na isagad si UPS nagawa na nya yung trabaho nya e, do your part naman daw hahahah
budget options to mga to, kahit sabihin pa natin na 2000va parang ewan lang. line interactive eh.
if you want some serious business UPS, kunin nyo yung APC Easy UPS On-line type. kinuha kong capacity is 1500va lang pero tumatagal ng 30mins on a standalone battery, im planning to buy a expansion battery in the future para tumagal sya ng more than 1 hour even while gaming.
kahit 1500va lang tumagal sya ng 30mins even while gaming, of course this kind of ups is expensive, nabili ko sya dati for around 18k sa lazada.
May marerecommend ka bang pure sine na UPS pero di ganun kamahal? Ang nakita kong pure sine ay APC Back-UPS Pro 1600VA which is costly