@@LironSegev There's something I don't understand though. Its set up on a fast start-up right? How is it gonna start-up faster if we untick the option? I'm asking cause right now my laptop is taking 20 minutes (sometimes more) to come back after a shut down. Should I untick or leave like that?
@@uogiusj Its 4 years old and I have a very special program installed that allows me to use windows 10 with the look of windows 7. I'm not a fan of windows 10 looks so I've installed this one to look and operate as windows 7 as the model supports windows 10 only. I'm sure this program is taking too long to adjust after restart. Its fine as I rarely restart it. If I don't restart it works as a Swiss watch!
@@lemonacidrounds7293: In my experience, an old PC can build up a LOT of extra stuff over the years as you add various software. Trying to clean up stuff you find in the startup folder can help. But the biggest thing, which can make a HUGE, almost miraculous difference for very slow startup in Windows is to use an SSD instead of a slow old HDD. i strongly suspect that for a 20 minute startup, it won't make much difference for you, but you could experiment and try it both ways and time it and see.
And somebody who doesn't actually start off with 'what's happening, guys?' quickly followed by a request to subscribe and click the bell. So refreshing.
I've been a computer programmer for years, but I didn't know this about the shutdown process. I did notice that some led lights were still on in my computer after a 'shutdown'. Thanks for making this useful video.
I find that Fast Startup is really only useful if your computer is using one of those older mechanical hard drives rather than the more modern SSDs. SSDs are so fast there really isn't much to be gained with Fast Startup enabled.
I also agree- when I finally made the switch from hdd to ssd, the difference in startup times was like lightning. I have disabled fast startup for other reasons on hdd boot drives before. So it only makes sense that this is now outmoded.
I wish all people were like this guy, he just goes straight to the point and shows all the steps to do and the meanings for all things. No narcissistic waste of time trying to adore his own persona like if he was a celebrity.
The title can be misleading, so I’ll add this: YOU SHOULD ALWAYS shut down your computer regularly, because although the kernel doesn’t get reset other caches are, so by doing this you can avoid having issues related to running your computer for too long. Otherwise very informative video, I learned a few things.
I'll add this: One of the main causes of hardware failure is thermal stress. Which arises not from very high or low temperatures, but from *changes* in temperature. Faster changes in temperature cause more stress. So any shutdowns should ideally be brief. For example, your CPU may idle at 120F and jump to 150F under stress. That's a ΔT of 30F. If you turn it off and let it reach a room temperature of 70F, that's a ΔT of 50F. And if you turn your computer on and jump right into a high-load activity like gaming, your CPU may go from 70F to 150F (ΔT=80F) extremely quickly. [note: It is NOT correct to say that a ΔT of 60F is "double" a ΔT of 30F, because Fahrenheit and Celsius are not absolute scales. To find the true % increase in temperature you have to take a ratio of the temperatures scaled from absolute 0.] I'm not 100% on this next part, but I personally believe this is one reason why game consoles die so much faster than PCs. Part of it is that they're made as cheaply as possible while trying to maximize performance, certainly. But budget PCs often don't have the same short lifespans. Imo, game consoles die so fast because they get flipped between sitting cold and running games so much more often than PCs ever do. tl;dr if you need to reboot, do it quickly.
@@NiteSaiya a difference of 60F IS double a difference of 30F. Despite the fact that the scale doesn't start at absolute zero, the differences scale equivalently. A difference of 30F is exactly equivalent to a difference of 16.666K, no matter what the actual temperatures recorded are. The difference between 0F and 30F is 16.666 Kelvin, the difference between 12.5F and 42.5F is 16.666 Kelvin. Differences are double, but the actual values are not double. Look at it this way. A difference of 30°F is exactly 30R. A difference of 60°F is exactly 60R. Rankine is an absolute scale and the % increase on the 60R will be exactly double that of the 30R every time. It's the same with °C and K. It doesn't matter whether they start at absolute 0 or not if the only thing you're doing is comparing DIFFERENCES in heat and not the actual temperature values. The comparison of difference in energy is also identical to the difference in heat as long as both items compared are identical (same structure and mass)
@@NiteSaiya I've built my own computers since I was 16. The first years I always shut down my computer each time I did not use it. Weirdly enough, I seemed to encounter hardware problems (hdd, ram, power supply and internal controller card) failures regular. After some years I kept my PC running 24/7. They would run for years without any problems. You can compare it the effects of G force. If you accelerate too fast, your body will not handle it. If you accelerate slower, you can reach speeds as high as you want. Same goes for harddrives.
Just run "shutdown /s /t 2". If you want to see how long it's been since a true shutdown simply run the Task Manager and look at the Performance tab with the CPU option selected. The Uptime will show how long your computer has been running since a restart or true shutdown.
@@richardjones2811 I have a batch file on my desktop with the command "shutdown.exe /s /t 02" in it and I run it when I'm done using the computer. The "/t 02" is the amount of time the computer waits before shutting down, in this case 2 seconds. It's just long enough for the prompt to come up and tell you the computer is about to shut down, and then it does.
@@Bill_CBR I do the same thing, but have icons on my desktop for Shutdown and Restart. Create a shortcut for a Command window, change the properties of the new shortcut to: Target: %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C "shutdown -s -t 2". For restart, Target is: %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C "shutdown -r -t 2". Then change the icon to something that make sense to you.
I've been disabling hybrid shutdown ("powercfg -h off") for years, partly to speed up the shutdown process but mainly to reduce wear on SSDs, because with it on, every shutdown hammers ~4GB onto your boot drive, shortening its lifespan (think about it - it's more IO than a home user writes to their drive cumulatively in a typical day, happening every single time). I hadn't thought so much about the software advantages of non-hybrid shutdowns, but it makes sense. A 'true' restart is always the first diagnostic step.
I have no idea why he didn't add this as an option in the video, the best way around this is to simply remove it and he dose not show that. That command just straight up removes that files and its features from your PC which is the whole point of this video of showing the benefits to removing it.
I did not know we could disable the fast start up feature. I have been doing manual restarts on weekly basis to avoid issues, so you have saved me, yet again with good advice and Thank you!
Some thing you missed - using hibernation permanantly stores memory data from RAM to the hard drive. This might cause heavy wear off when using an SSD. And they still use cheap nand quite often days, so enabling hibernation can make your drive fail earlier.
is it practically an issue these days? i have been using my laptop for 2.5 years (16 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD) and hibernate basically everyday. The diagnostics app says that only ~25% of the SSD's "write cycles" (? or something like that) has been worn out... so atleast in my case i dont feel that hibernation would be problematic
@@SreenikethanI 25% of the "terabytes written" or TBW perhaps? That is the total amount of data one can write to the SSD during its lifetime. 25% of TBW used up in 2.5 years implies it might fail after 10 years. May I ask what model of SSD you are using? BTW, not all SSDs are created equal. If one expects to write lots of data, look at the specs before buying. There are models with TBW in the petabytes.
I always disable hibernate, sleep, fast startup, and fast shutdown options. My PC is on or off. And it'll always give fresh boots and no hibernate writes.
Excellent explanation of a phenomenon I've noticed. After some days of only using SHUTDOWN the computer begins to act sketchy using some programs (...accumulating junk in memory that begins to conflict?). For the past couple of years I will purposely use the RESTART function to periodically clear everything out and I've even noticed in the TASK MANAGER that there is less baseline memory being used that slowly gets higher after repeatedly using merely SHUTDOWN, starting the cycle over. Thanks!
Wow, this was unusually refreshing. Straight to the point, Title matches content, and no unwanted blabbering. Also very informative in a way that's easily digestable. Great job.
As I understand it, the original difference between sleep and hibernate is that sleep remembers your system's current state in RAM, which means it requires constant access to power to retain sleep mode. Hibernate saves your current state to the hard drive and loads that state from the drive when restarted, like with fast startup, and thus can be fully disconnected from power while hibernating and still be able to reload the state of the machine when it was told to hibernate.
@@queengown4255 Except one day the surge will get to your laptop in sleep mode and fry it through because it's still connected to power... just saying. Disable fast start-up in the control panel under power option, "change what the power button does". Search for it if not appearing.
I still don't understand why? Well, the computer is there, I can just turn it off (pull out all the wires from the outlet) and nothing like that will happen..@@jas_bataille
I loved using hibernate when my laptop had a hard drive, but when i switched to SSD I’m hesitant to use hibernate because it might wear down my SSD. I wish Windows allowed you to change the location of the hibernation file.
I have been working with computers since the days of the 8088. I build and sell systems and consider myself a power user. The information you provided me in this video cleared up a lot of confusion about sleep vs hibernation and the whole fast start routine. Thank you!
I became aware of this only a few weeks ago and discovered that there are 5 levels or type of shutdown. For me it is desirable to keep it on fast start because certain software (mostly peripherals) keep resetting themselves every time I went into full shutdown mode. One fix I found was logging out and back in again fixed everything but since using fast start I don't have to do this anymore.
@@markcondrey2297 like you I have been in the game for years and unfortunately gone are the days when we actually knew what our computer were up to. It's quite surprising what your computer can do when it's not even switched on. that's why these shutdown features exist and probably why most are not aware of them. Anyway my tinfoil hat need adjusting.
Yeah I've always disabled Fast Startup. Fast Startup also keeps drives mounted, so if you do a dual boot, it might make them inaccessible to another OS.
For a few months, my computer has been starting slowly. After turning the computer on, it would sit on a black screen for about 3 minutes before showing the boot screen. Immediately after watching this video, I held shift while turning my PC off, and voila! My PC starts instantly again! Thank you! I love you so much.
Just a clarification: Shutdown with Fast Startup enabled is basically like hibernating AFTER logging off. The computer saves the RAM content to HDD/SDD and FULLY turns off. When you turn it on, Windows doesn't need to load everything back up, it simply loads the hibernated state and logs in, which sometimes creates havoc with drivers and/or hardware, specially old/outdated ones. If the computer has an SSD, having Fast Startup on or off won't make much of a difference anyway, even on old hardware, so just keep it disabled.
I run a laptop from 2017, HDD, I recently disabled Fast Startup (after one incident where startup yielded INTERNAL_POWER_FAILURE when trying to log in) and I don't notice any practical difference in startup times. Hmm...
This actually makes alot of sense to me. I have a nice laptop and I always shut it down after use. But I have always noticed that when I turn it back on I will have some strange performance. Like frame hitching in games specifically. So I'd restart the laptop and it resolves the performance issues. So now when I start my laptop up, I always restart it one time before use. Never have issues with performance.
Would doing a restart before a shut down do the same thing? I ask because I tend to have more time to do a restart at the end of a session on my laptop than at the beginning so if it's the same effect, I'll try doing that in the future.
@@Dargonhuman A shut down is not a true shut down, a restart is, it is linked to some complex subjects, but restarting will solve all issues, shuttign down wont
Just disable the fast boot option of Windows, so when you turn off you PC, it actually turns it off instead of putting it to hibernation. It will have the same effect as a restart. Go in settings > What does the power button do > options that are not visible right > And then select the proper turn off computer option.
Microsoft did this to 'fool' users into believing performance enhancements to Windows took place when in reality, all they did was cache things for a faster restart (paraphrased)..
I had to use 2 separate hard drives One is a NVMe 128. The other is 256 SATA. Windows is forced into the 128. It keeps whining not enough room to change to Win 11. Meanwhile Linux is the primary used drive. It sucks to have to change the boot drive in the bios. But windows does not corrupt the Linux install any more. Windows always has been the trouble maker, spoiled child. The reality If was not for games, Windows would be long gone. Linux is much more efficient and not something needs constant trouble shooting. Basically Linux is a more mature solution.. Windows is also the reason I have 6 Hard drives. Never know when the Redmond gremlins will do their classic coding again. You have ask why is a Linux primary load 1.2Gb and Widows bloated up to 5.3Gb? Sorry Bill but your company appears to have a problem making efficient code. But you did teach them how to code.
@@_nom_ Maybe why I run a 3800X at 4500Mhz? I don't want win 11 until it is finished teething. But the boot times are not the issue. The exit. restart times is about 5 times what Linux requires. Redmond is trying to make a winders iPC clone. If wanted iMAC. I would have bought one. Winders is mostly for the olde lady. Her "games" don't work in Linux. i wonder why?
This is not universally true. I have laptops that take about 15 seconds to cold boot and about 3 seconds to boot from hibernate. Agreed that most tower-style machines won't see a difference, but I suspect some BIOSes are optimized for the laptop it's in. My ASUS BIOS machine makes no significant difference, but also spends about 40 seconds either way.
NOTE: Reducing the hiberfile using cmd might prevent your PC from hibernating. With my 8gb ram PC, after reducing the hiberfile size, the Hibernate option disappeared from the power menu. Even the setting to turn it on also disappeared from Control Panel. However both returned after I set the hiberfile size back to full
I think it's because there's a minimum requirement and since your PC only has 8 GB reducing that will not be enough to hibernate therefore Windows disables it.
Thank you sooooo much! I reduced the size and then followed loads of instructions to try get hibernate back. Nothing worked until I found your suggestion. Much appreciated👏👏👏
I've found that sometimes with certain programs fast start up might cause problems. But never shutting windows down by using sleep certainly will screw it up at some point. Personally never had much of a problem shutting down with fast boot enabled, but it can break some with certain combination of things starting up. Which is probably bad programming but conflicts happens at times.
Yeah at some point, though I almost never reach that point. Normally hit an update before something breaks. Means I only get about a month between shutdowns since security update comes the second tuesday of each month. Though I have ignored it for up to a full extra month before actually updating.
Restarting allows the PC to finish updates. Shut down just tells the computer to stop everything and turn off, which is like clearing your desk off and starting a new day instead of piling more stuff on a crowded desk. Bad programming creates memory leaks, and a shutdown is the best method of clearing those up. A restart will not always release allocated memory in RAM.
I’m really enjoying your videos mate! For someone who uses a computer for work and study, these are a great 5-10 minute learning blast for me. Keep up the great work!! 😊
Woah, this is mind blowing. I always was using shut down to restart the kernel and was wondering why I still had a lot of hangups and performance issues until my computer was force rebooted for updates. I remember learning in the Windows 95 days that you should always do a full shut down to reset the kernel and not restart. Thank you for the video! I was getting worried there was something seriously wrong with my computer, and now everything's how I expect it to be!
Windows 95 had two restart methods. There was a warm restart where the GUI would close and it would start from DOS again (i.e. when you change the color depth of your monitor) and there was a cold reboot where you rebooted DOS and Windows. Difference was, did you the BIOS or did it only show a text mode line with something like "Restarting windows". Before ATX, even better was to shut down, wait for the Safe to power off message and hit Reset on the case, that way you were sure to have the RAM cleared. I sometimes was able to play DOS games that won't run in the DOS Box of WIn95 with sound cards that came with no DOS drivers by loading the drivers in Windows and the drivers would actually survive a cold reboot.
It's crazy. Why doesn't Microsoft include a "Full Shutdown" menu item? I understand that they want to limit options (limit clutter) wherever possible but when it results in the computer doing something different from what most users assume that it would do, that's not useful. Win11 has taken this objective so far that many things that used to be one or two clicks away are now buried. (For a long time, I've been using Win-r shutdown /s /f /t 0 when I want to fully shut down but if shift-shutdown is the same, that's faster..)
@@brianwest2775 Because this is a marketing trick to make it seem like it boots faster than for example Windows 7 to make people think that it's better.
I have had a computer for 20+ years and consider myself an above-average computer user...and I honestly had no idea that this was happening on my computer, awesome, and thank you for all this valuable information!!
it might be worth mentioning as well that sometimes unplugging the computer from the power completely might fix things. if you have a laptop and the battery is removable, remove it for a couple of minutes. sometimes doing a full power cycle can solve your problem.......sometimes
In addition to unplugging / flipping the power switch, holding the power switch (the one you press to turn it on and off, not the one on the power supply) to discharge the system.. the first time I cleaned my computer many years ago I didn't realize I shouldn't allow the fans to spin while it's off, and when I plugged it back in, it wouldn't boot. It took me ages (and another computer) to find out discharging the electricity that way was even a way.
I feel like this should only apply to laptops, if you're unplugging your tower/pc after shutdown to get it running better you're an idiot and if you're unplugging it while it's running your an even bigger idiot
@Karl with a K Call me paranoid but I even disconnect the power cable, I have little to no trust for electrical devices consider how blatant data gathering is.
@@LironSegev I use Linux and my days of servicing Windows computers is over, so I wasn't aware that Microsoft had changed the "Shut Down" options - so this was a very educational video. The fact that it was also direct and to the point - and delivered in about the same amount of time other channel spend on their intro sequence and telling you to like and subscribe - was much appreciated.
@@wolf1066 Im In the process of shifting over to Linux myself, but haven't found a version yet that doesn't need updating every day and isn't full of bling that I'm not going to use, but is still secure as possible from hijack threats and bot viruses.
I just discovered you sir and I have to tell you I'm hyped for you videos. No non-sense advertising, no useless intro, clear concise information. You sir are a legend! I subscribed and liked the video after only 2 minutes! Keep it up!
I was about to shut down my computer and I noticed this video , and the thumbnail . So till today I shut down the computer and sit quietly to watch all the led lights to go off , thanks man
Thank you for this video. I had a problem with some "glitches" with my windows 10 computer and nothing I would do would fix the glitches. I took it to the local repair shop, and after $100, it was still doing the same thing. In this video, you recommend a "reset shutdown" to "kill the kernal." I am not anything close to a computer whiz but I tried it and, amazingly, the glitches were gone or fixed. I wish you had posted this video 4 months ago, you would have saved me $100. Thank you so very much!
I recently took my computer to the shop for some glitches with Windows 10 such as Desktop Windows Manager memory leak and forked out $200. After getting it back I found that Desktop Windows Manager still has a memory leak, which the only way to remedy it is to hit reset. The shop guy also tried to get me to replace the hard drive with a solid state drive for an additional $100 but I said I do believe in fixing something that is not broken.
All you have to do is restart your computer every few days and you won't have any problems. The restart button shuts everything down (including the kernel) and restarts it all again. I thought everyone knew this
@@SMartinTX The SSD makes the boot process a LOT faster in Windows 10; not all that different in 7. The reason is that Windows 10 is very sloppy in task management and assumes you have an SSD so it throws everything at it in parallel. SSD does not care but spin disk can really only service one task at a time and jumping among them wastes a LOT of time. When it came time to replace the hard drive in my HP laptop, that drive is no longer available so I was compelled to go SSD. Time to be ready to work went from about 30 minutes to 2 minutes. Oh, it would give me a login screen quick enough, then it would index the disk, do an antivirus sweep, stuff like that which makes the hard disk so busy that forget running a Zoom meeting until about 20 minutes have elapsed. But a fairly simple swap followed by not so simple sector for sector copy (using Linux and DD) and it works like a charm and usually I can do Zoom in two minutes from start up. Unless there's an update! SSD can and will be SLOWER than a spin disk if you are copying into it large numbers of small files.
I found out about this not too long ago, and I, too, thought it seemed backwards. Then I realized that, if you shut down, it's probably because you're simply finished your session at the computer, with everything working fine, and are likely to want it to boot up pretty much the same as it was when you left it. On the other hand, you generally do a restart specifically _because_ there's a problem you hope to clear up, so the full reset makes total sense.
i have witnessed you for all of five minutes, prepared to close the video at any moment, any -slight- distraction that prompted me. and there wasn't a moment of interference. at all. all information, all on point, all the editing done perfectly well to cover any lapses in communication. i don't say this in vain: you're out here doing the Lord's work, man. excellent!
Seems to me like this was only a part of his topics. But it's still quite short and the most important got to the point so quickly. Clearly he didn't like dancing around. He is a genuine user-friendly, the word that most people misuse. 👍👍
I, most certainly, am not any sort of computer geek, but I recently realised that the "restart" function worked far better than the "shut down" when rebooting (if that's the correct term) my computer. However, your explanation and guide on how to improve the "shut down" function made complete sense. In fact, on the occasions when I have clicked on your videos, I have continually been very impressed by the straightforward, no-nonsense, idiot-proof way in which you explain everything, whereby even an old dinosaur, such as myself, can easily execute them. Thank you, Liron, and more power to you.
Just so we are clear, you are said that when you leave your computer in sleep mode it uploads your entire contents of your hard drive to the cloud. If so, what proof do you have for such statement? I would love to see proof that Microsoft or anyone else is sucking all our data off our hard drives. That will be the bgliggest law suit in history! You made the statement, back it up with proof.
@Karl with a K so once again... Blah blah blah and zero proof to back anything up. Got you. I am happy to be wrong - prove it. Don't worry, I'll wait 😂😂😂
I just wanted to say that I've learned a LOT watching your videos! You tell us stuff without using a bunch of computer "Geek" terms, and take it step by step! You make things so easy! Thanks so much! I've watched other channels, and hate having to stop the video to google a term that they use, and they don't bother to explain what it is exactly. I guess those channels just think everyone who watches should know computer terms.
Every one of these options has its uses. Both Sleep and Hibernate are useful if you need (or want to) leave one or more programs open while your computer is "off". You often see people simply closing their laptop without saving anything. This generally puts the laptop to Sleep (but keeps the memory alive). It Wakes Up as soon as the cover is opened and they can continue where they left off. But beware! If you battery is almost dead it may not have enough power to keep the memory alive until later!!! I live in a country where power cuts happen quite frequently. (They are infamously called "load shedding".) Because of this, when I need to leave something open, I rather choose to hibernate. I have never had any problems when re-starting from hibernate. I also see the warnings about hibernate wearing out your SSD. While that is true, it is no more harmful than writing any other big file such as a video or movie file. If you need to hibernate, your SSD is there to serve your needs. Remember that it does not write the hibernation file to the same location each time - it is much smarter than that.
The actual difference between sleep and hibernate is: - "Sleep" option saves all your current work in memory barely consuming power, starting your PC again is very fast but keep in mind if you lose power your work is lost - "Hibernate" saves all your current work on hard drive so you're safe to completely disconnect your PC from power source but powering on takes a bit more time (hard drives are slower than memory)
Thanks for this video, Mr. Segev. I accidentally discovered this problem several years ago while triple booting and finding file fragments; even then it took another coincidence for me to understand what was happening. This "feature" is terribly documented by Microsoft. And for years, even after I disabled Fast Startup, Windows Update would re-enable it. Ugghhhhh! Now every time I help someone with their Windows computer, the first thing I do is to tell them what Fast Startup is and I turn it off for them. They can just use Hibernate if they like the feature. Microsoft has broken the most basic computer problem solving solution of "Turn it off and back on again". And if I can't turn off Fast Startup, I tell everyone to choose Restart instead if you ever have any computer problems. You gave a fairly comprehensive, detailed overview of the problem. The only thing you missed is telling how much of a difference Fast Reboot makes in start time. Since most people start their computers only a few times a day, I guess 30 seconds or so is not really that important. Quantifying it would have been helpful, though.
NOTICE! Windows 11 doesn't have 'Hardware and Sound' in 'Control Panel'. It is just called 'Power Options'. After opening Power Options the tab for 'Choose what the Power button does' is up top on the left side of the screen.
Brilliant video - direct and to the point with no waffle. Clearly, your priority is to communicate the message to your audience rather than monetize having done so. If only every channel behaved similarly.
love how his titles are like "DONT USE YOUR COMPUTER" "DONT EAT FOOD" "DONT EXIST" but when you play the vid, its really helpful and its straight to the point, this really helped btw!
I discovered your channel only today, and it already has changed my life for the better! Thank you, Liron, for some of the best Windows tips I have ever seen on RUclips.
Great video and gets right to the point. Disabled quick startup since my computer sometimes has issues, and when checking my computer has been "on" for almost 9 days straight. Hopefully proper shutdowns will help my computer run better, since fast startup doesn't seem to do much anyway.
Glad I stumbled across this video. Now my shutdown is the same as restart. There are times I want the computer OFF and also want a fresh start when it starts back up. This will save time! Thank you!!!!
Great video, short and sweet. However could you possibly add an explanation about the difference between the small and full file size in hibernate in terms of impact on performance?
With the operating system on an SSD, shutdowns and restarts are fast, so you won't even need the hibernate file and can be deleted with a similar command: powercfg /h /off
Absolutely incredible video. I've always prided myself on making sure I shut my computer down before bed every night, oblivious that I wasn't actually shutting it down properly at all. Thank you for the information and tutorial you provided here. This will help so many of us who were previously unaware of what the 'Shut Down' button alone actually does.
I still do, but I've had a policy of disabling fast startup on computers for years now. You really don't need it, especially with SSDs. And once it's disabled, shutting down your PC will do as you expect. Honestly, fast startup just causes so many more problems than it solves...
do NOT pull the plug unless the computer is shut down fully with fast startup disabled. If you pull the plug while the computer is on, there’s going to be so much damage to Windows.
Another reason I'm glad Linux is my main driver. When I'm done with Windows I'm always rebooting into Linux anyway but I'm going to go and change these options regardless, thanks heaps.
This was one of the most informative tech vids I’ve seen. I never even considered any of this info before and now I have seen a bunch of issues resolved. Thank you sir.
Psa: Sleep hybernate and fast boot have been broken and breaking stuff for years. For those wondering ms made these modes and turns them on almost every update. It was created to say they have faster boot times to compete with mac os. Its dumb and causes so many IT problems i cant list them. This is because sleep hybernate and fast boot copy whatever is on ram to disk.(sleep might just low power but the errors are similar) And when you load your pc again the programs open but they cant completely find the reloaded memory so it creates loads of problems with things that are time sensitive or secured sessions need to reconnect or the program has no clue where or how to find the location of the memory(thread) or that it should be looking for it. In programing world this is known as a zombie process. So please save your documents and shutdown properly.
makes one wonder how the f you are using hibernate so badly? why are you shutting/hibarnating if you are doing something time sensitive? makes no sense.
Yeah all 3 create problems but that is no reason to not use them. It's just a reason to be aware that if you encounter problems and especially because you are using one of the 3. Do a full restart first, to try and fix it. I sleep and only actually restart about once a month for the windows security update and I very rarely ever have any sleep related problems.
@@nocare do what you want... If i had something that was known to be more destructive then helpful, i know it would be unwise to use it unless i didnt care about what im doing. But the number of times in a fortune 500 company i have had angry users scream at me because of a broken feature that causes them to loose their documents right before a meeting is unacceptable so i educate the user with a version of the above statement and ask them if they are ok with me disabling that feature. They may have fixed sleep im not entirely sure thats why i had a comment in (). But i have had users with over 200day uptime due to these features that means 200days of security patches/updates and possibly broken or corrupted data or programs that haven't fully been installed because the system failed to reboot. This is not the intended result or design Philosophy and many programs like antivirus require a proper reboot for settings to take. Im done fighting on this if you know what your doing then obviously do what you want just dont get mad if your pc ram gets filled with garbage and force quits a program freezes or bsods out of the blue. Edit What your doing should be fine personally i know in some business settings depending on what software is running this is not always the case. But my comment was mainly a rant explaining why IT has to ask people to reboot all the time.
Wow, actually great advice. So much bloatware and unnecessary "help" from operating systems these days. Thank you so so much for the consize advice. I was really bewildered from the basic usage changes going from xp,w7 and Ubuntu on windows 10... So many automatic things we have no use for....
If you wonder if your machine has actually been turned off or not in a while I usually check the "Performance" tab on the Task Manager. On the CPU you can check "Up time" and if the up time is days then you can assume that you haven't actually turned off your computer.
I'm still on windows 7. I shut my pc down once every other day because I would leave it running for months. I just want to give it a break. I thought it could be better for its overall health.
@@dougfredricks2017 Are you guys getting Extended Security Updates (ESU) for Windows 7 (which will stop in 2023)? If not it might be time to to shift to a new OS if your computers are going to be connected to the internet.
@@khwaac 👀 I shouldn't admit this but I turned auto-update off/stopped doing updates years ago out of annoyance. I know. It's dumb and reckless. Getting lucky because I mostly use my phone.
@@Blaiyan 😯. I know windows 10 sucks, but security wise it might be time to upgrade. There are plenty of free alternatives eg GNU/linux distros that you can either run from a usb stick as a live environment with internet or actually install on your hard drive.
@@khwaac I have win11 in my cart but that's going to be for a new PC build that was supposed to be built 2 years ago but I'm procrastinating for some reason.
Thanks, Liron. You are a source of amazing information. I had no idea of these things. Thanks for providing clear, concise information in short videos. It's why we love you. Cheers!
I shut down my computer everytime after I finish using it for the day for 30 years already . Even when it is in use . Sometimes it is sluggish and it need a restart to refresh itself . By shutting down and start it in the morning , I have a fresh computer to use everyday .
This man made a video, he sticks to the topic and gives the information you are looking for without brute forcing his personality or brand into the video. Subscribed, liked and commented
Hibernation is also handy to use for when you need to leave an app or download open without risk of losing data during a power outage. Contents are saved to storage instead of RAM. In the past I've used hibernation as a work around for an issue with epic games launcher where pausing would reset my download.
@@FranchusR nope, it just saves the state your computer is currently in and resumes from there when you start it back up. If you want to download your PC cannot enter sleep or hibernation mode as far as I'm aware. You would just have to run your PC in low power mode and shut off your monitor.
Instead of using the Shut down with Shift method, you can put the line [shutdown /s /f /t 0] (without the brackets) into a notepad textfile, save as AnyName, close and rename to AnyName.bat. Now when you double-click the file, W10 performs a complete shutdown. You can even make a shortcut to this file, put it on your desktop and assign it an icon to your liking, I use the 'Close'-Icon.
This is brilliant, for a non computer nerd this is like gold, sure some people out there will say pah! we are ALL at different stages with computers. Cheers Liron, subbed
I've known about this fast boot 'feature' for quite some time now. I used to just do a Restart if I ran into any fuzzy issues on any of my computers, which frankly doesn't happen very often. But then I decided to just remove Fast Startup in addition to the Sleep, Hibernate, and Lock options from the Shutdown Menu to clean things up. All of my main work computers are high-end since I do high-end computing, so startup times are really fast even with Fast Startup disabled. i7-6800K, ASUS TUF X99, 32GB, GTX-1060, NVMe OS ; i7-6950X, ASUS ROG X99, 64GB, RTX-2060, NVMe OS ; R9-5950X, ASUS ROG X570, 128GB, RTX-3080, NVMe OS.
I didn't know it could stash up to 75% of your RAM capacity as a hibernation file. Writing a 96GB file every day is a nice way to shorten the lifespan of an SSD.
@@Toshinben - Yes, that is one of the reasons why I disabled Fast Startup, because all of my computers are high in installed memory compared to what the average person uses. I didn't like the large files it was writing to disk.
As someone who is a software developer and very computer savvy and has used windows since Windows 95. It's crazy that I never knew this was a feature. I probably would have noticed if it was enabled because shutting down to fix issues or to refresh your computer is important. After looking, it seems the setting has always been disabled for me. Thank you for making me aware of this feature!
Fast-Startup is a nightmare. I've had people tell me they shut their computer down every night, but their uptime is at like 40+ days. Leave it up to MS to make things worse.
I've been turning my computer off at the power switch and unplugging it for ages. Not sure why more people don't do it. Lowers chance of a random electrical fire and helps prevent damage to your computer in case of a thunderstorm too.
If by power switch, you mean the button on the top/front your PC that you use to start the PC, it has the same functionnality as the shutdown option in the windows menu. And unplugging doesn't help with the issue explained in the video since the fast startup saves the state in your ssd/hdd to take into account a complete power loss. So you should still consider what has been said in the video and decide what you want to do. If by power switch, you mean the switch at the power unit of your PC. I hate doing this since it might just mess with the hardware.
Thank You so much for this video, I've been using Windows since 98 and never did I realize they forced "Fast Startup" since Windows 8. I always shutdown my computer because using sleep caused corruption in the past but that was most likely because I was using HDD's at the time. But anyway I thought this whole time that I was fully shutting down my PC and now that I've disabled Fast Startup it's much smoother. :) The difference in boot time between Fast Startup being enabled and disabled is maybe a second with my Samsung M.2.
Ah! I realized this shut-down vs restart difference during updates, but didn't realize the shut-down was basically hibernate (tho i did wonder why i no longer saw hibernate in my options). Good video 👍. Subscribed 😊
Ah I actually turned off fast startup a few years ago when fiddling with some stuff on my pc. I tried to see if it actually made a difference with my computers startup time and it seemed like it wasn’t actually any faster, so I left it off :p Didn’t know any of this stuff about it! Pretty interesting.
Excellent video with genuine safe to use information. You might find it's possible to partition your hard drive and alter the hibernation file location onto that partition. The useful thing about that is, just like you can with the windows swap file on older systems, you can clear it out by simply deleting the file from the partition. Windows will restart and create a clean swap file. No need for all that RAM defrag nonsense.
It is always worth watching these videos even if like me you think you know it all 🤣I didn't know about the when hitting shutdown so I had already changed my settings. I my change it back now and use the when I feel it necessary. Cheers Boss ! 😎
I have never seen my computer do an update when clicking the power button only when using the mouse to cursor over to the shutdown button in the start menu. I don't think it bugs me about one application is preventing your computer from shutting down either but I could be wrong. I should point out this is on a desktop laptops/tablets behave differently.
A ha ! I knew that was bad ! I first ran into problems with this on a couple of new windows 10 laptops where they would not always connect to the WiFi. Disabling the fast startup fixed that problem. Today I routinely disable fast startup for client's unless there is a real boot speed concern. With SSD hard drives today however they boot so fast client's don't notice any slow down with the boot up speed at all.
On the flip side of this. If the pc isnt clean rebooting each time, as he said, can your pc *learn to boot slowly every time* ? I have win10 on an ssd. Booting used to be lightning fast with integrated graphics (intel board) but after adding an nivdia gpu I remember one boot, not the first one after adding the card, but much later, suddenly took much longer than many previous ones, and it's remained this way..maybe 5mins or so now? seems like eons while you're waiting. I *know* it's the gpu (or it's vram loading?) that's the issue since it's been the only hardware change and it cant pass post with dvid plug in the gpu. Yeah yeah no doubt updating the bios might help this -- I believe vga has priority over dvid in my current bios.. but since I had nvidia onboard and now an nvidia gpu... kinda odd. (Yes, I have correct gpu driver. No win10 isnt bloated, running tons of added startup apps/services, nor infected - before you ask lol.) So yeah, no restarts for me, since you gotta be quick unplugging peripherals during a restart. Anyway the backstory is kinda moot here tho, my question is does shutting down without holding shift *teach* your pc to then repeatedly boot slowly as thats what it now remembers? ..coz heaven forbid I do this shift-restart and it takes even longer. (Other than slow to boot, I'm still more than happy with my 3rd-Gen i7 ). I think I meandered along the way to get to my question, hope you followed me 🤣
4:31 thanks for showing the Hibernate file location! 5:18 I think it is rare someone would show us how to *REVERT* settings in Command Prompt! thanks again!
Since it wasn't mentioned in the video, if anyone wants to know exactly what hibernation and sleep are, I'll explain here. Basically, when you put a computer to sleep, a minimal about of power is used to hold your session in RAM so that it can be quickly resumed. In hibernate, your session is dumped from RAM to the hiberfile on disk and the system is completely shut down (except for the kernel as explained). When you wake from hibernation, the contents of the hiberfile are restored to RAM in order to resume your session. This process is a slower because the full boot process is required, and the system also needs to access the hiberfile to copy it's contents to RAM. Sleep is intended for times when you don't need to be concerned with draining your battery, such as for very short periods of non-use, or when running on mains power. Hibernation is more useful when you are worried about draining your battery such as when using a laptop and need to turn it off for long periods of time but don't want to lose your session. Thus, hibernation is pretty much useless on a desktop. Additionally, you should use sleep whenever possible, instead of hibernation or a full shutdown, as repeatedly putting your computer through a full startup sequence puts more wear in your hardware. For example, use sleep when turning off your mains powered computer for the night, and use shutdown/hibernation when turning it off for the weekend.
@@kingineazzy fast startup is similar to hibernate but it doesn't save your entire session, only Windows in a freshly booted state, so like system processes and things like that. It doesn't really make a difference for normal day to day usage but it will allow you to boot Windows a little faster. You can leave it on but you might want to turn it off while troubleshooting, or if you prefer a full shutdown and startup as explained in the video.
Straight to the point. No rambling for 30 minutes. Great tutorial. I wish more instructors and educators would learn that!
Thanks for hanging out here 👍
@@LironSegev There's something I don't understand though. Its set up on a fast start-up right? How is it gonna start-up faster if we untick the option? I'm asking cause right now my laptop is taking 20 minutes (sometimes more) to come back after a shut down. Should I untick or leave like that?
@@lemonacidrounds7293 If your laptop is taking that long to turn on, it is either 30 years old or you have a serious problem
@@uogiusj Its 4 years old and I have a very special program installed that allows me to use windows 10 with the look of windows 7. I'm not a fan of windows 10 looks so I've installed this one to look and operate as windows 7 as the model supports windows 10 only. I'm sure this program is taking too long to adjust after restart. Its fine as I rarely restart it. If I don't restart it works as a Swiss watch!
@@lemonacidrounds7293: In my experience, an old PC can build up a LOT of extra stuff over the years as you add various software. Trying to clean up stuff you find in the startup folder can help.
But the biggest thing, which can make a HUGE, almost miraculous difference for very slow startup in Windows is to use an SSD instead of a slow old HDD.
i strongly suspect that for a 20 minute startup, it won't make much difference for you, but you could experiment and try it both ways and time it and see.
It's so refreshing to find a video that just starts without the usual intro. Great stuff, really learned a lot here
Appreciate the comment. If you came here to learn about Windows, I figure no one needs a 20 min montage of me making coffee 🤪 Let's just get into it!
@@LironSegev exactly
And somebody who doesn't actually start off with 'what's happening, guys?' quickly followed by a request to subscribe and click the bell. So refreshing.
I now automatically start at the 5-10 minute range. RUclips must give them all a script to read.
100% agree
I've been a computer programmer for years, but I didn't know this about the shutdown process. I did notice that some led lights were still on in my computer after a 'shutdown'. Thanks for making this useful video.
There are also Bios settings that change what led lights do when shutdown
not necessarily the same thing
just turn off the power supply with the switch built on to it once yuo shut it down
@Karl with a K Just flip the power switch in the back of the power supply.
@Karl with a K well....
New AAA games don't have win 7 compatibility.......
Never underestimate the power of a restart.
Doesn’t just apply to your computer, either.
It works on your mobile phone
It works for life too...
It works for your dental appointments (repeat chain yall)
@@gouthamkrishna7366 life speedrun (any %)
@@Jebu911 havent tried that, thanks.
I find that Fast Startup is really only useful if your computer is using one of those older mechanical hard drives rather than the more modern SSDs. SSDs are so fast there really isn't much to be gained with Fast Startup enabled.
I agree. If you have win10pro, you can disable this feature in group policy editor. Startup programs are the main cause of slow startups also.
I also agree- when I finally made the switch from hdd to ssd, the difference in startup times was like lightning. I have disabled fast startup for other reasons on hdd boot drives before. So it only makes sense that this is now outmoded.
Fast startup could still reduce your startup time from 45 seconds to 10 though.
Avoid sleep or hibernate. If system crashes... you are in real trouble. A security concern being afk? Just log off.
@@flinch622 ikr, i've had trouble coming back from hibernate.
I wish all people were like this guy, he just goes straight to the point and shows all the steps to do and the meanings for all things. No narcissistic waste of time trying to adore his own persona like if he was a celebrity.
Most people just look up Linus. You either get his Tech Tips or his Techquickie channel. This was covered a year ago.
@@Honeneko. That's the point of having alternatives, I'm quite aware of Linus but I can't stand his style 🤷🏻
@@Honeneko. "linus did it first" shut up lol
@@xaby996 Lol. Paint him Yellow and call him Homer.
Totally agree
The title can be misleading, so I’ll add this: YOU SHOULD ALWAYS shut down your computer regularly, because although the kernel doesn’t get reset other caches are, so by doing this you can avoid having issues related to running your computer for too long. Otherwise very informative video, I learned a few things.
I'll add this: One of the main causes of hardware failure is thermal stress. Which arises not from very high or low temperatures, but from *changes* in temperature. Faster changes in temperature cause more stress. So any shutdowns should ideally be brief. For example, your CPU may idle at 120F and jump to 150F under stress. That's a ΔT of 30F. If you turn it off and let it reach a room temperature of 70F, that's a ΔT of 50F. And if you turn your computer on and jump right into a high-load activity like gaming, your CPU may go from 70F to 150F (ΔT=80F) extremely quickly.
[note: It is NOT correct to say that a ΔT of 60F is "double" a ΔT of 30F, because Fahrenheit and Celsius are not absolute scales. To find the true % increase in temperature you have to take a ratio of the temperatures scaled from absolute 0.]
I'm not 100% on this next part, but I personally believe this is one reason why game consoles die so much faster than PCs. Part of it is that they're made as cheaply as possible while trying to maximize performance, certainly. But budget PCs often don't have the same short lifespans. Imo, game consoles die so fast because they get flipped between sitting cold and running games so much more often than PCs ever do.
tl;dr if you need to reboot, do it quickly.
My PC hardly ever shuts down. Its allowed to go into standby mode when it idles too long. My Desktop PC is running fine with no issues.
@@NiteSaiya strange becauso my 360 still works fine, same with my xbox1. Got the 360 on RELEASE and used it a LOT, I'd say over 10000hours in total.
@@NiteSaiya a difference of 60F IS double a difference of 30F. Despite the fact that the scale doesn't start at absolute zero, the differences scale equivalently. A difference of 30F is exactly equivalent to a difference of 16.666K, no matter what the actual temperatures recorded are. The difference between 0F and 30F is 16.666 Kelvin, the difference between 12.5F and 42.5F is 16.666 Kelvin. Differences are double, but the actual values are not double.
Look at it this way. A difference of 30°F is exactly 30R. A difference of 60°F is exactly 60R. Rankine is an absolute scale and the % increase on the 60R will be exactly double that of the 30R every time. It's the same with °C and K. It doesn't matter whether they start at absolute 0 or not if the only thing you're doing is comparing DIFFERENCES in heat and not the actual temperature values. The comparison of difference in energy is also identical to the difference in heat as long as both items compared are identical (same structure and mass)
@@NiteSaiya I've built my own computers since I was 16. The first years I always shut down my computer each time I did not use it. Weirdly enough, I seemed to encounter hardware problems (hdd, ram, power supply and internal controller card) failures regular. After some years I kept my PC running 24/7. They would run for years without any problems. You can compare it the effects of G force. If you accelerate too fast, your body will not handle it. If you accelerate slower, you can reach speeds as high as you want. Same goes for harddrives.
Thank you for not forcing this past the 10min mark with random computer/personal history. This stuff is useful to know.
Just run "shutdown /s /t 2". If you want to see how long it's been since a true shutdown simply run the Task Manager and look at the Performance tab with the CPU option selected. The Uptime will show how long your computer has been running since a restart or true shutdown.
Mine says 5 days so not that bad. How do you personaly do a full shut down?
@@richardjones2811 I have a batch file on my desktop with the command "shutdown.exe /s /t 02" in it and I run it when I'm done using the computer. The "/t 02" is the amount of time the computer waits before shutting down, in this case 2 seconds. It's just long enough for the prompt to come up and tell you the computer is about to shut down, and then it does.
@@Bill_CBR I do the same thing, but have icons on my desktop for Shutdown and Restart. Create a shortcut for a Command window, change the properties of the new shortcut to: Target: %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C "shutdown -s -t 2". For restart, Target is: %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C "shutdown -r -t 2". Then change the icon to something that make sense to you.
I'd use the /t 0 option myself, the 2 second delay doesn't make sense
@@richardjones2811 shift+shutdown
I've been disabling hybrid shutdown ("powercfg -h off") for years, partly to speed up the shutdown process but mainly to reduce wear on SSDs, because with it on, every shutdown hammers ~4GB onto your boot drive, shortening its lifespan (think about it - it's more IO than a home user writes to their drive cumulatively in a typical day, happening every single time). I hadn't thought so much about the software advantages of non-hybrid shutdowns, but it makes sense. A 'true' restart is always the first diagnostic step.
I have no idea why he didn't add this as an option in the video, the best way around this is to simply remove it and he dose not show that. That command just straight up removes that files and its features from your PC which is the whole point of this video of showing the benefits to removing it.
I always use the sleep mode and restart now end then to refresh the system. Should be fine since sleep uses the RAM, right?
@@derkevevin You should still use the command above though, especially if you never use hibernate.
@@derkevevin Absolutely fine, but disabling the hibernate file will also free up a little bit of space on the C drive if that's something you're into!
@@TheMrZ100 because he's that kind of expert.
I did not know we could disable the fast start up feature. I have been doing manual restarts on weekly basis to avoid issues, so you have saved me, yet again with good advice and Thank you!
Huh? Didn't you watch or listen? He clearly pointed out that Restart bypasses Fast Start.
@@burnsyd17 you cant tick it off its grayed out
@@laoch5658 You have to click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable" then you can uncheck it.
You can also, usually, disable the fast startup option in your bios.
@@burnsyd17: Looks like Frank already knows that, duh.
Some thing you missed - using hibernation permanantly stores memory data from RAM to the hard drive. This might cause heavy wear off when using an SSD. And they still use cheap nand quite often days, so enabling hibernation can make your drive fail earlier.
is it practically an issue these days? i have been using my laptop for 2.5 years (16 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD) and hibernate basically everyday. The diagnostics app says that only ~25% of the SSD's "write cycles" (? or something like that) has been worn out... so atleast in my case i dont feel that hibernation would be problematic
when you say that, do you mean it causes problems when it's enabled or only when you use it?
@@SreenikethanI 25% of the "terabytes written" or TBW perhaps? That is the total amount of data one can write to the SSD during its lifetime. 25% of TBW used up in 2.5 years implies it might fail after 10 years. May I ask what model of SSD you are using?
BTW, not all SSDs are created equal. If one expects to write lots of data, look at the specs before buying. There are models with TBW in the petabytes.
I always disable hibernate, sleep, fast startup, and fast shutdown options. My PC is on or off. And it'll always give fresh boots and no hibernate writes.
Question does a restart restore the stored memory of the hibernation file, if not is there any way to free it back up from using hibernate?
Excellent explanation of a phenomenon I've noticed. After some days of only using SHUTDOWN the computer begins to act sketchy using some programs (...accumulating junk in memory that begins to conflict?). For the past couple of years I will purposely use the RESTART function to periodically clear everything out and I've even noticed in the TASK MANAGER that there is less baseline memory being used that slowly gets higher after repeatedly using merely SHUTDOWN, starting the cycle over. Thanks!
Yep! This is also why I restart sometimes
What is?
What is your os?
Sorry,got that it’s windows
use hibernate for safety way now or just shutdown as normal? sorry im little bit confuse
This channel informs us of vital things which we would never become aware of on our own. Makes our lives better.
thanks Chuck!
Yeah this guy is great
"powercfg /h off" in an admin CMD is what i use cos i dont need hibernate and it disables fast startup as well 😉
Wow, this was unusually refreshing. Straight to the point, Title matches content, and no unwanted blabbering. Also very informative in a way that's easily digestable. Great job.
agreed, and same for this comment *applauds*
he literally did blabber for like 2 minutes
Dude did u seriously try to eat the freaking video XD
@@Ugh718 yeah don't you eat videos for a living
As I understand it, the original difference between sleep and hibernate is that sleep remembers your system's current state in RAM, which means it requires constant access to power to retain sleep mode. Hibernate saves your current state to the hard drive and loads that state from the drive when restarted, like with fast startup, and thus can be fully disconnected from power while hibernating and still be able to reload the state of the machine when it was told to hibernate.
I use sleep all the time. And, when the power goes off due to a particularly powerful lightning flash, the laptop reboots back to where I left it.
@@queengown4255 Except one day the surge will get to your laptop in sleep mode and fry it through because it's still connected to power... just saying. Disable fast start-up in the control panel under power option, "change what the power button does". Search for it if not appearing.
I still don't understand why? Well, the computer is there, I can just turn it off (pull out all the wires from the outlet) and nothing like that will happen..@@jas_bataille
I loved using hibernate when my laptop had a hard drive, but when i switched to SSD I’m hesitant to use hibernate because it might wear down my SSD. I wish Windows allowed you to change the location of the hibernation file.
I have been working with computers since the days of the 8088. I build and sell systems and consider myself a power user. The information you provided me in this video cleared up a lot of confusion about sleep vs hibernation and the whole fast start routine. Thank you!
awesome - thank YOU for being here!
@@FlyboyHelosim you have to know to even ask 🤦 and thanks for sharing your valuable insight. You can piss off now
I became aware of this only a few weeks ago and discovered that there are 5 levels or type of shutdown. For me it is desirable to keep it on fast start because certain software (mostly peripherals) keep resetting themselves every time I went into full shutdown mode. One fix I found was logging out and back in again fixed everything but since using fast start I don't have to do this anymore.
@@TheRatlord74 For me this was something that I had not paid much attention to, and this video was certainly able to bring me up to speed
@@markcondrey2297 like you I have been in the game for years and unfortunately gone are the days when we actually knew what our computer were up to. It's quite surprising what your computer can do when it's not even switched on. that's why these shutdown features exist and probably why most are not aware of them. Anyway my tinfoil hat need adjusting.
Yeah I've always disabled Fast Startup. Fast Startup also keeps drives mounted, so if you do a dual boot, it might make them inaccessible to another OS.
For a few months, my computer has been starting slowly. After turning the computer on, it would sit on a black screen for about 3 minutes before showing the boot screen. Immediately after watching this video, I held shift while turning my PC off, and voila! My PC starts instantly again! Thank you! I love you so much.
Just a clarification: Shutdown with Fast Startup enabled is basically like hibernating AFTER logging off. The computer saves the RAM content to HDD/SDD and FULLY turns off. When you turn it on, Windows doesn't need to load everything back up, it simply loads the hibernated state and logs in, which sometimes creates havoc with drivers and/or hardware, specially old/outdated ones. If the computer has an SSD, having Fast Startup on or off won't make much of a difference anyway, even on old hardware, so just keep it disabled.
Thanks
I run a laptop from 2017, HDD, I recently disabled Fast Startup (after one incident where startup yielded INTERNAL_POWER_FAILURE when trying to log in) and I don't notice any practical difference in startup times. Hmm...
This actually makes alot of sense to me. I have a nice laptop and I always shut it down after use. But I have always noticed that when I turn it back on I will have some strange performance. Like frame hitching in games specifically. So I'd restart the laptop and it resolves the performance issues. So now when I start my laptop up, I always restart it one time before use. Never have issues with performance.
I think ill just do it like this instead of using hibernation that uses 70-80 of ram, and my laptop has just 8gb of ram.
Would doing a restart before a shut down do the same thing? I ask because I tend to have more time to do a restart at the end of a session on my laptop than at the beginning so if it's the same effect, I'll try doing that in the future.
@@Dargonhuman A shut down is not a true shut down, a restart is, it is linked to some complex subjects, but restarting will solve all issues, shuttign down wont
Just disable the fast boot option of Windows, so when you turn off you PC, it actually turns it off instead of putting it to hibernation. It will have the same effect as a restart.
Go in settings > What does the power button do > options that are not visible right > And then select the proper turn off computer option.
@@SanjitNagi hold left shift and pres shut down with mouse that is true shut down
Microsoft did this to 'fool' users into believing performance enhancements to Windows took place when in reality, all they did was cache things for a faster restart (paraphrased)..
I had to use 2 separate hard drives One is a NVMe 128. The other is 256 SATA. Windows is forced into the 128. It keeps whining not enough room to change to Win 11.
Meanwhile Linux is the primary used drive.
It sucks to have to change the boot drive in the bios. But windows does not corrupt the Linux install any more.
Windows always has been the trouble maker, spoiled child.
The reality If was not for games, Windows would be long gone. Linux is much more efficient and not something needs constant trouble shooting.
Basically Linux is a more mature solution.. Windows is also the reason I have 6 Hard drives.
Never know when the Redmond gremlins will do their classic coding again.
You have ask why is a Linux primary load 1.2Gb and Widows bloated up to 5.3Gb? Sorry Bill but your company appears to have a problem making efficient code.
But you did teach them how to code.
Windows still boots in like 6-10 seconds. Not sure instant booting is necessary.
@@_nom_ Maybe why I run a 3800X at 4500Mhz? I don't want win 11 until it is finished teething. But the boot times are not the issue. The exit. restart times is about 5 times what Linux requires. Redmond is trying to make a winders iPC clone. If wanted iMAC. I would have bought one.
Winders is mostly for the olde lady. Her "games" don't work in Linux. i wonder why?
@@_nom_ The six to ten seconds is the cached version. Try the Control key shutdown, let it go cold, then start it, see how long it takes.
Fast Startup is a extremely redundant feature that should be always disabled. SSDs are fast enough to boot up Windows as fast as Fast Startup does.
This is not universally true. I have laptops that take about 15 seconds to cold boot and about 3 seconds to boot from hibernate. Agreed that most tower-style machines won't see a difference, but I suspect some BIOSes are optimized for the laptop it's in. My ASUS BIOS machine makes no significant difference, but also spends about 40 seconds either way.
That’s not how redundancy works.
@@darrennew8211 40 seconds isn’t that bad IMO
Yeah, it's redundant , and mislabeled.
Use one or the other
@@violent_bebop9687 not how redundant works
NOTE:
Reducing the hiberfile using cmd might prevent your PC from hibernating. With my 8gb ram PC, after reducing the hiberfile size, the Hibernate option disappeared from the power menu. Even the setting to turn it on also disappeared from Control Panel. However both returned after I set the hiberfile size back to full
Aaaaaand why not deactivating hibernation altogether? Would've been smarter than just reducing it to an useless size lol.
I think it's because there's a minimum requirement and since your PC only has 8 GB reducing that will not be enough to hibernate therefore Windows disables it.
Thank you sooooo much! I reduced the size and then followed loads of instructions to try get hibernate back. Nothing worked until I found your suggestion. Much appreciated👏👏👏
This video has the most valuable comments. Thanks for testing both ways and sharing.
I've found that sometimes with certain programs fast start up might cause problems. But never shutting windows down by using sleep certainly will screw it up at some point. Personally never had much of a problem shutting down with fast boot enabled, but it can break some with certain combination of things starting up. Which is probably bad programming but conflicts happens at times.
Yeah at some point, though I almost never reach that point. Normally hit an update before something breaks.
Means I only get about a month between shutdowns since security update comes the second tuesday of each month.
Though I have ignored it for up to a full extra month before actually updating.
Restarting allows the PC to finish updates. Shut down just tells the computer to stop everything and turn off, which is like clearing your desk off and starting a new day instead of piling more stuff on a crowded desk. Bad programming creates memory leaks, and a shutdown is the best method of clearing those up. A restart will not always release allocated memory in RAM.
I’m really enjoying your videos mate! For someone who uses a computer for work and study, these are a great 5-10 minute learning blast for me. Keep up the great work!! 😊
Great to hear!
I didn't know about this for more than 20years working in IT field. Wow! give this man a standing ovation and monument. Thank you.
Woah, this is mind blowing. I always was using shut down to restart the kernel and was wondering why I still had a lot of hangups and performance issues until my computer was force rebooted for updates. I remember learning in the Windows 95 days that you should always do a full shut down to reset the kernel and not restart. Thank you for the video! I was getting worried there was something seriously wrong with my computer, and now everything's how I expect it to be!
That's the same thing for me.
That's mind boggling to realize that things have been completely switched around and I never was even aware of it
Windows 95 had two restart methods. There was a warm restart where the GUI would close and it would start from DOS again (i.e. when you change the color depth of your monitor) and there was a cold reboot where you rebooted DOS and Windows. Difference was, did you the BIOS or did it only show a text mode line with something like "Restarting windows". Before ATX, even better was to shut down, wait for the Safe to power off message and hit Reset on the case, that way you were sure to have the RAM cleared. I sometimes was able to play DOS games that won't run in the DOS Box of WIn95 with sound cards that came with no DOS drivers by loading the drivers in Windows and the drivers would actually survive a cold reboot.
It's crazy. Why doesn't Microsoft include a "Full Shutdown" menu item? I understand that they want to limit options (limit clutter) wherever possible but when it results in the computer doing something different from what most users assume that it would do, that's not useful. Win11 has taken this objective so far that many things that used to be one or two clicks away are now buried. (For a long time, I've been using Win-r shutdown /s /f /t 0 when I want to fully shut down but if shift-shutdown is the same, that's faster..)
@@brianwest2775 Because this is a marketing trick to make it seem like it boots faster than for example Windows 7 to make people think that it's better.
I have had a computer for 20+ years and consider myself an above-average computer user...and I honestly had no idea that this was happening on my computer, awesome, and thank you for all this valuable information!!
it might be worth mentioning as well that sometimes unplugging the computer from the power completely might fix things. if you have a laptop and the battery is removable, remove it for a couple of minutes. sometimes doing a full power cycle can solve your problem.......sometimes
In addition to unplugging / flipping the power switch, holding the power switch (the one you press to turn it on and off, not the one on the power supply) to discharge the system.. the first time I cleaned my computer many years ago I didn't realize I shouldn't allow the fans to spin while it's off, and when I plugged it back in, it wouldn't boot. It took me ages (and another computer) to find out discharging the electricity that way was even a way.
@@VeggyZ yeah, but you really should keep the power off for 30-60 seconds anyway......just to make sure all of the juice is out.
@Karl with a K sorry for being a newb in PC 😭
I feel like this should only apply to laptops, if you're unplugging your tower/pc after shutdown to get it running better you're an idiot and if you're unplugging it while it's running your an even bigger idiot
@Karl with a K Call me paranoid but I even disconnect the power cable, I have little to no trust for electrical devices consider how blatant data gathering is.
Wow. No grandiose intro, just right to the point. Bravo. Liked this video.
This video is the most information dense, accessible tech video I've seen on this platform. 5 minutes well spent.
I'm standing here in awe of the fact that it was 5 minutes and 40 seconds of actual information. Absolutely awesome.
Yeah. Now wouldn't it be fantastic if the rest of the internet was like that. We might actually get rapid progress again. Imagine that!!
😂 😂 😂 True Story
@@penfold7800 I may well faint from the shock if that actually happened.
@@LironSegev I use Linux and my days of servicing Windows computers is over, so I wasn't aware that Microsoft had changed the "Shut Down" options - so this was a very educational video.
The fact that it was also direct and to the point - and delivered in about the same amount of time other channel spend on their intro sequence and telling you to like and subscribe - was much appreciated.
@@wolf1066 Im In the process of shifting over to Linux myself, but haven't found a version yet that doesn't need updating every day and isn't full of bling that I'm not going to use, but is still secure as possible from hijack threats and bot viruses.
I just discovered you sir and I have to tell you I'm hyped for you videos. No non-sense advertising, no useless intro, clear concise information. You sir are a legend! I subscribed and liked the video after only 2 minutes! Keep it up!
I was about to shut down my computer and I noticed this video , and the thumbnail . So till today I shut down the computer and sit quietly to watch all the led lights to go off , thanks man
Thank you for this video. I had a problem with some "glitches" with my windows 10 computer and nothing I would do would fix the glitches. I took it to the local repair shop, and after $100, it was still doing the same thing. In this video, you recommend a "reset shutdown" to "kill the kernal." I am not anything close to a computer whiz but I tried it and, amazingly, the glitches were gone or fixed. I wish you had posted this video 4 months ago, you would have saved me $100. Thank you so very much!
I recently took my computer to the shop for some glitches with Windows 10 such as Desktop Windows Manager memory leak and forked out $200. After getting it back I found that Desktop Windows Manager still has a memory leak, which the only way to remedy it is to hit reset. The shop guy also tried to get me to replace the hard drive with a solid state drive for an additional $100 but I said I do believe in fixing something that is not broken.
All you have to do is restart your computer every few days and you won't have any problems. The restart button shuts everything down (including the kernel) and restarts it all again. I thought everyone knew this
@@SMartinTX The SSD makes the boot process a LOT faster in Windows 10; not all that different in 7. The reason is that Windows 10 is very sloppy in task management and assumes you have an SSD so it throws everything at it in parallel. SSD does not care but spin disk can really only service one task at a time and jumping among them wastes a LOT of time. When it came time to replace the hard drive in my HP laptop, that drive is no longer available so I was compelled to go SSD. Time to be ready to work went from about 30 minutes to 2 minutes. Oh, it would give me a login screen quick enough, then it would index the disk, do an antivirus sweep, stuff like that which makes the hard disk so busy that forget running a Zoom meeting until about 20 minutes have elapsed. But a fairly simple swap followed by not so simple sector for sector copy (using Linux and DD) and it works like a charm and usually I can do Zoom in two minutes from start up. Unless there's an update!
SSD can and will be SLOWER than a spin disk if you are copying into it large numbers of small files.
Mr Segev has become an invaluable source for my tech,where I excel at ignorance.Thank you and more please.
appreciate you!
Clear, concise and probably THE most helpful tips I've seen. Solved a problem that's been driving me nuts. Excellent work, subbed.
I always use hibernate, but I also recommend to do a restart from time to time. Restarting can correct a lot of issues and keep your PC fresh.
I found out about this not too long ago, and I, too, thought it seemed backwards. Then I realized that, if you shut down, it's probably because you're simply finished your session at the computer, with everything working fine, and are likely to want it to boot up pretty much the same as it was when you left it. On the other hand, you generally do a restart specifically _because_ there's a problem you hope to clear up, so the full reset makes total sense.
Exactly, both functions do exactly what they are supposed to - shut down the computer or restart the operating system.
i have witnessed you for all of five minutes, prepared to close the video at any moment, any -slight- distraction that prompted me.
and there wasn't a moment of interference. at all.
all information, all on point, all the editing done perfectly well to cover any lapses in communication.
i don't say this in vain: you're out here doing the Lord's work, man. excellent!
Awesome tutorial. Thanks!
Seems to me like this was only a part of his topics. But it's still quite short and the most important got to the point so quickly. Clearly he didn't like dancing around. He is a genuine user-friendly, the word that most people misuse. 👍👍
I, most certainly, am not any sort of computer geek, but I recently realised that the "restart" function worked far better than the "shut down" when rebooting (if that's the correct term) my computer. However, your explanation and guide on how to improve the "shut down" function made complete sense. In fact, on the occasions when I have clicked on your videos, I have continually been very impressed by the straightforward, no-nonsense, idiot-proof way in which you explain everything, whereby even an old dinosaur, such as myself, can easily execute them. Thank you, Liron, and more power to you.
@Karl with a K That's not at all how cookies work. But you're right it won't reload your previous apps immediately.
Can i just sleep my pc instead of having to shut it down or would shutting it down be more better for the pc
Eh.... Nonsense. I would love to see any proof of this
Just so we are clear, you are said that when you leave your computer in sleep mode it uploads your entire contents of your hard drive to the cloud. If so, what proof do you have for such statement? I would love to see proof that Microsoft or anyone else is sucking all our data off our hard drives. That will be the bgliggest law suit in history! You made the statement, back it up with proof.
@Karl with a K so once again... Blah blah blah and zero proof to back anything up. Got you. I am happy to be wrong - prove it. Don't worry, I'll wait 😂😂😂
I just wanted to say that I've learned a LOT watching your videos! You tell us stuff without using a bunch of computer "Geek" terms, and take it step by step! You make things so easy! Thanks so much! I've watched other channels, and hate having to stop the video to google a term that they use, and they don't bother to explain what it is exactly. I guess those channels just think everyone who watches should know computer terms.
Every one of these options has its uses.
Both Sleep and Hibernate are useful if you need (or want to) leave one or more programs open while your computer is "off".
You often see people simply closing their laptop without saving anything. This generally puts the laptop to Sleep (but keeps the memory alive). It Wakes Up as soon as the cover is opened and they can continue where they left off. But beware! If you battery is almost dead it may not have enough power to keep the memory alive until later!!!
I live in a country where power cuts happen quite frequently. (They are infamously called "load shedding".) Because of this, when I need to leave something open, I rather choose to hibernate. I have never had any problems when re-starting from hibernate.
I also see the warnings about hibernate wearing out your SSD. While that is true, it is no more harmful than writing any other big file such as a video or movie file. If you need to hibernate, your SSD is there to serve your needs. Remember that it does not write the hibernation file to the same location each time - it is much smarter than that.
The actual difference between sleep and hibernate is:
- "Sleep" option saves all your current work in memory barely consuming power, starting your PC again is very fast but keep in mind if you lose power your work is lost
- "Hibernate" saves all your current work on hard drive so you're safe to completely disconnect your PC from power source but powering on takes a bit more time (hard drives are slower than memory)
Thanks for this video, Mr. Segev. I accidentally discovered this problem several years ago while triple booting and finding file fragments; even then it took another coincidence for me to understand what was happening. This "feature" is terribly documented by Microsoft. And for years, even after I disabled Fast Startup, Windows Update would re-enable it. Ugghhhhh!
Now every time I help someone with their Windows computer, the first thing I do is to tell them what Fast Startup is and I turn it off for them. They can just use Hibernate if they like the feature. Microsoft has broken the most basic computer problem solving solution of "Turn it off and back on again". And if I can't turn off Fast Startup, I tell everyone to choose Restart instead if you ever have any computer problems.
You gave a fairly comprehensive, detailed overview of the problem. The only thing you missed is telling how much of a difference Fast Reboot makes in start time. Since most people start their computers only a few times a day, I guess 30 seconds or so is not really that important. Quantifying it would have been helpful, though.
NOTICE! Windows 11 doesn't have 'Hardware and Sound' in 'Control Panel'. It is just called 'Power Options'. After opening Power Options the tab for 'Choose what the Power button does' is up top on the left side of the screen.
I Got Rid Of My Computer! Too Much Drama!
Brilliant video - direct and to the point with no waffle. Clearly, your priority is to communicate the message to your audience rather than monetize having done so. If only every channel behaved similarly.
love how his titles are like "DONT USE YOUR COMPUTER" "DONT EAT FOOD" "DONT EXIST" but when you play the vid, its really helpful and its straight to the point, this really helped btw!
I discovered your channel only today, and it already has changed my life for the better! Thank you, Liron, for some of the best Windows tips I have ever seen on RUclips.
Welcome aboard and thank YOU for hanging out here!
Thanks. Especially for making the information very clear and accessible to non tech savvy users. High quality instruction, man.
Great video and gets right to the point. Disabled quick startup since my computer sometimes has issues, and when checking my computer has been "on" for almost 9 days straight. Hopefully proper shutdowns will help my computer run better, since fast startup doesn't seem to do much anyway.
Glad I stumbled across this video. Now my shutdown is the same as restart. There are times I want the computer OFF and also want a fresh start when it starts back up. This will save time! Thank you!!!!
Great video, short and sweet. However could you possibly add an explanation about the difference between the small and full file size in hibernate in terms of impact on performance?
With the operating system on an SSD, shutdowns and restarts are fast, so you won't even need the hibernate file and can be deleted with a similar command: powercfg /h /off
Absolutely incredible video. I've always prided myself on making sure I shut my computer down before bed every night, oblivious that I wasn't actually shutting it down properly at all. Thank you for the information and tutorial you provided here. This will help so many of us who were previously unaware of what the 'Shut Down' button alone actually does.
I still do, but I've had a policy of disabling fast startup on computers for years now. You really don't need it, especially with SSDs. And once it's disabled, shutting down your PC will do as you expect.
Honestly, fast startup just causes so many more problems than it solves...
@Karl with a K Wait what. So if the pc is still turned on, instead of clicking the shutdown button you just pull the plug?!?!?
@@phaikabob8723 how should I shut down my pc?
@@kingdead3729 Disable fast start up and shut down like normal. No need to pull the plug like the other guy is doing. He’s just being extra.
do NOT pull the plug unless the computer is shut down fully with fast startup disabled. If you pull the plug while the computer is on, there’s going to be so much damage to Windows.
Another reason I'm glad Linux is my main driver. When I'm done with Windows I'm always rebooting into Linux anyway but I'm going to go and change these options regardless, thanks heaps.
Yup ... been using Linux for 10+ years.
Very simplified, but this is a great tutorial for the masses and very easy for pretty much anyone to follow with no false or missed information
This was one of the most informative tech vids I’ve seen. I never even considered any of this info before and now I have seen a bunch of issues resolved. Thank you sir.
Psa: Sleep hybernate and fast boot have been broken and breaking stuff for years. For those wondering ms made these modes and turns them on almost every update.
It was created to say they have faster boot times to compete with mac os.
Its dumb and causes so many IT problems i cant list them.
This is because sleep hybernate and fast boot copy whatever is on ram to disk.(sleep might just low power but the errors are similar)
And when you load your pc again the programs open but they cant completely find the reloaded memory so it creates loads of problems with things that are time sensitive or secured sessions need to reconnect or the program has no clue where or how to find the location of the memory(thread) or that it should be looking for it.
In programing world this is known as a zombie process.
So please save your documents and shutdown properly.
true, in my case sometime hibernate make my overlocked pc bsod,
never encounter bsod after choosing sleep.
makes one wonder how the f you are using hibernate so badly?
why are you shutting/hibarnating if you are doing something time sensitive? makes no sense.
Yeah all 3 create problems but that is no reason to not use them. It's just a reason to be aware that if you encounter problems and especially because you are using one of the 3. Do a full restart first, to try and fix it.
I sleep and only actually restart about once a month for the windows security update and I very rarely ever have any sleep related problems.
@@nocare do what you want... If i had something that was known to be more destructive then helpful, i know it would be unwise to use it unless i didnt care about what im doing.
But the number of times in a fortune 500 company i have had angry users scream at me because of a broken feature that causes them to loose their documents right before a meeting is unacceptable so i educate the user with a version of the above statement and ask them if they are ok with me disabling that feature.
They may have fixed sleep im not entirely sure thats why i had a comment in ().
But i have had users with over 200day uptime due to these features that means 200days of security patches/updates and possibly broken or corrupted data or programs that haven't fully been installed because the system failed to reboot.
This is not the intended result or design Philosophy and many programs like antivirus require a proper reboot for settings to take.
Im done fighting on this if you know what your doing then obviously do what you want just dont get mad if your pc ram gets filled with garbage and force quits a program freezes or bsods out of the blue.
Edit What your doing should be fine personally i know in some business settings depending on what software is running this is not always the case.
But my comment was mainly a rant explaining why IT has to ask people to reboot all the time.
Wouldn't this all really depend on what you're using your computer for?
Wow, actually great advice. So much bloatware and unnecessary "help" from operating systems these days. Thank you so so much for the consize advice. I was really bewildered from the basic usage changes going from xp,w7 and Ubuntu on windows 10... So many automatic things we have no use for....
Thank you!! Years of 'not shutting down' my Laptop is solved. Excellent!
If you wonder if your machine has actually been turned off or not in a while I usually check the "Performance" tab on the Task Manager. On the CPU you can check "Up time" and if the up time is days then you can assume that you haven't actually turned off your computer.
I'm still on windows 7. I shut my pc down once every other day because I would leave it running for months. I just want to give it a break. I thought it could be better for its overall health.
Run my Dell Laptop with Windows 7 pretty much around the ⏰. It goes occasionally into sleep mode but has been very reliable. 💻
@@dougfredricks2017 Are you guys getting Extended Security Updates (ESU) for Windows 7 (which will stop in 2023)? If not it might be time to to shift to a new OS if your computers are going to be connected to the internet.
@@khwaac 👀 I shouldn't admit this but I turned auto-update off/stopped doing updates years ago out of annoyance. I know. It's dumb and reckless. Getting lucky because I mostly use my phone.
@@Blaiyan 😯. I know windows 10 sucks, but security wise it might be time to upgrade. There are plenty of free alternatives eg GNU/linux distros that you can either run from a usb stick as a live environment with internet or actually install on your hard drive.
@@khwaac I have win11 in my cart but that's going to be for a new PC build that was supposed to be built 2 years ago but I'm procrastinating for some reason.
Thanks, Liron. You are a source of amazing information. I had no idea of these things. Thanks for providing clear, concise information in short videos. It's why we love you. Cheers!
I shut down my computer everytime after I finish using it for the day for 30 years already .
Even when it is in use . Sometimes it is sluggish and it need a restart to refresh itself .
By shutting down and start it in the morning , I have a fresh computer to use everyday .
Didn't know why you showed Colonel Sanders at first, but I then got the reference.
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I did not get it... why is it?
Such a very quick and simple video yet incredibly helpful, useful, and informative. Thank you
very straight forward, nicely refreshing with no needles fluff. I'll tremendously remember this channel next time I have a question.
This man made a video, he sticks to the topic and gives the information you are looking for without brute forcing his personality or brand into the video. Subscribed, liked and commented
The kernel is actually the core OS. The hardware abstraction layer is what interacts with the hardware.
dude yes! that's right!
Hibernation is also handy to use for when you need to leave an app or download open without risk of losing data during a power outage. Contents are saved to storage instead of RAM.
In the past I've used hibernation as a work around for an issue with epic games launcher where pausing would reset my download.
so, you're saying you can let any download running while hibernating? Because that sounds useful
@@FranchusR nope, it just saves the state your computer is currently in and resumes from there when you start it back up. If you want to download your PC cannot enter sleep or hibernation mode as far as I'm aware. You would just have to run your PC in low power mode and shut off your monitor.
@@FranchusR the hella impossible. How can you download without power.
Instead of using the Shut down with Shift method, you can put the line [shutdown /s /f /t 0] (without the brackets) into a notepad textfile, save as AnyName, close and rename to
AnyName.bat. Now when you double-click the file, W10 performs a complete shutdown. You can even make a shortcut to this file, put it on your desktop and assign it an icon to your liking, I use the 'Close'-Icon.
or just disable it through control panel
Brilliant! 'Hibernate' is the function I've been looking for for years. And so well explained. Great job Liron!
Immediate subscribe. I had no idea of any of this, but you explained it in seconds with actual fixes and worarounds with no rambling. Top notch!
This is brilliant, for a non computer nerd this is like gold, sure some people out there will say pah! we are ALL at different stages with computers. Cheers Liron, subbed
Appreciate you being here 🔥
I've known about this fast boot 'feature' for quite some time now. I used to just do a Restart if I ran into any fuzzy issues on any of my computers, which frankly doesn't happen very often. But then I decided to just remove Fast Startup in addition to the Sleep, Hibernate, and Lock options from the Shutdown Menu to clean things up.
All of my main work computers are high-end since I do high-end computing, so startup times are really fast even with Fast Startup disabled.
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I didn't know it could stash up to 75% of your RAM capacity as a hibernation file. Writing a 96GB file every day is a nice way to shorten the lifespan of an SSD.
@@Toshinben - Yes, that is one of the reasons why I disabled Fast Startup, because all of my computers are high in installed memory compared to what the average person uses. I didn't like the large files it was writing to disk.
True. Very true. Shutting down, and/or rebooting your computer is a bad idea. In fact, using your computer in any way may be really bad for it.
@@bobstuckrath1805 then why have one?
As someone who is a software developer and very computer savvy and has used windows since Windows 95. It's crazy that I never knew this was a feature. I probably would have noticed if it was enabled because shutting down to fix issues or to refresh your computer is important. After looking, it seems the setting has always been disabled for me.
Thank you for making me aware of this feature!
Fast-Startup is a nightmare. I've had people tell me they shut their computer down every night, but their uptime is at like 40+ days. Leave it up to MS to make things worse.
Love your style, clear & straight to the point. My new favorite Windows instructor.
You probably just helped eliminate the source of so many headaches, including mine.
Thank you so much.
Happy to help!
I've been turning my computer off at the power switch and unplugging it for ages. Not sure why more people don't do it. Lowers chance of a random electrical fire and helps prevent damage to your computer in case of a thunderstorm too.
If by power switch, you mean the button on the top/front your PC that you use to start the PC, it has the same functionnality as the shutdown option in the windows menu.
And unplugging doesn't help with the issue explained in the video since the fast startup saves the state in your ssd/hdd to take into account a complete power loss.
So you should still consider what has been said in the video and decide what you want to do.
If by power switch, you mean the switch at the power unit of your PC. I hate doing this since it might just mess with the hardware.
@@palandar3538 power switch as in the switch at wall socket
Thank You so much for this video, I've been using Windows since 98 and never did I realize they forced
"Fast Startup" since Windows 8. I always shutdown my computer because using sleep caused corruption
in the past but that was most likely because I was using HDD's at the time. But anyway I thought this whole
time that I was fully shutting down my PC and now that I've disabled Fast Startup it's much smoother. :)
The difference in boot time between Fast Startup being enabled and disabled is maybe a second with my
Samsung M.2.
I don't feel like my computer is mine anymore.
Thank goodness for someone who can give information without all the silly BS . This dude knows his business! I’m subscribing to him
Ah! I realized this shut-down vs restart difference during updates, but didn't realize the shut-down was basically hibernate (tho i did wonder why i no longer saw hibernate in my options).
Good video 👍. Subscribed 😊
They sometimes hide the hibernate option in Settings.
Watch a video on how to display hibernate on your options list.
@@thisismagacountry1318 i think he mentioned it here, in this video
Ah I actually turned off fast startup a few years ago when fiddling with some stuff on my pc. I tried to see if it actually made a difference with my computers startup time and it seemed like it wasn’t actually any faster, so I left it off :p
Didn’t know any of this stuff about it! Pretty interesting.
Excellent video with genuine safe to use information. You might find it's possible to partition your hard drive and alter the hibernation file location onto that partition. The useful thing about that is, just like you can with the windows swap file on older systems, you can clear it out by simply deleting the file from the partition. Windows will restart and create a clean swap file. No need for all that RAM defrag nonsense.
In your face straight to the point. No time wasted. Fast.
I subbed FAST
It is always worth watching these videos even if like me you think you know it all 🤣I didn't know about the when hitting shutdown so I had already changed my settings. I my change it back now and use the when I feel it necessary. Cheers Boss ! 😎
Awesomeness
I aggressively pull my power cord out from the wall when I turn my computer off especially while it's updating
I have never seen my computer do an update when clicking the power button only when using the mouse to cursor over to the shutdown button in the start menu. I don't think it bugs me about one application is preventing your computer from shutting down either but I could be wrong. I should point out this is on a desktop laptops/tablets behave differently.
Thanks Liron, I followed your advice and finally cured a problem with my TV cable service playing on my Surface Pro tablet.
Excellent!
Wow! I love it when you accidentally hit on a great channel. This was fascinating and very useful. Thx for sharing.
Appreciate you being here 🔥
A ha ! I knew that was bad ! I first ran into problems with this on a couple of new windows 10 laptops where they would not always connect to the WiFi. Disabling the fast startup fixed that problem. Today I routinely disable fast startup for client's unless there is a real boot speed concern. With SSD hard drives today however they boot so fast client's don't notice any slow down with the boot up speed at all.
On the flip side of this. If the pc isnt clean rebooting each time, as he said, can your pc *learn to boot slowly every time* ? I have win10 on an ssd. Booting used to be lightning fast with integrated graphics (intel board) but after adding an nivdia gpu I remember one boot, not the first one after adding the card, but much later, suddenly took much longer than many previous ones, and it's remained this way..maybe 5mins or so now? seems like eons while you're waiting. I *know* it's the gpu (or it's vram loading?) that's the issue since it's been the only hardware change and it cant pass post with dvid plug in the gpu. Yeah yeah no doubt updating the bios might help this -- I believe vga has priority over dvid in my current bios.. but since I had nvidia onboard and now an nvidia gpu... kinda odd. (Yes, I have correct gpu driver. No win10 isnt bloated, running tons of added startup apps/services, nor infected - before you ask lol.) So yeah, no restarts for me, since you gotta be quick unplugging peripherals during a restart. Anyway the backstory is kinda moot here tho, my question is does shutting down without holding shift *teach* your pc to then repeatedly boot slowly as thats what it now remembers? ..coz heaven forbid I do this shift-restart and it takes even longer. (Other than slow to boot, I'm still more than happy with my 3rd-Gen i7 ). I think I meandered along the way to get to my question, hope you followed me 🤣
This title: *exists
My electricity bill: "IT'S OVER 9000!"
And my HDD: “Dead”
4:31 thanks for showing the Hibernate file location!
5:18 I think it is rare someone would show us how to *REVERT* settings in Command Prompt! thanks again!
"powercfg /h off" in cmd on every new image, this will give shutdown its traditional behavior similar to turning it off in the GUI.
Since it wasn't mentioned in the video, if anyone wants to know exactly what hibernation and sleep are, I'll explain here.
Basically, when you put a computer to sleep, a minimal about of power is used to hold your session in RAM so that it can be quickly resumed. In hibernate, your session is dumped from RAM to the hiberfile on disk and the system is completely shut down (except for the kernel as explained). When you wake from hibernation, the contents of the hiberfile are restored to RAM in order to resume your session. This process is a slower because the full boot process is required, and the system also needs to access the hiberfile to copy it's contents to RAM.
Sleep is intended for times when you don't need to be concerned with draining your battery, such as for very short periods of non-use, or when running on mains power. Hibernation is more useful when you are worried about draining your battery such as when using a laptop and need to turn it off for long periods of time but don't want to lose your session. Thus, hibernation is pretty much useless on a desktop.
Additionally, you should use sleep whenever possible, instead of hibernation or a full shutdown, as repeatedly putting your computer through a full startup sequence puts more wear in your hardware. For example, use sleep when turning off your mains powered computer for the night, and use shutdown/hibernation when turning it off for the weekend.
What about the fast start up ? Should that be disabled or left on
@@kingineazzy fast startup is similar to hibernate but it doesn't save your entire session, only Windows in a freshly booted state, so like system processes and things like that. It doesn't really make a difference for normal day to day usage but it will allow you to boot Windows a little faster. You can leave it on but you might want to turn it off while troubleshooting, or if you prefer a full shutdown and startup as explained in the video.
@@breadfan_85 Ight thanks for the info brotha 🙏🏽💯
@@kingineazzy np. Have a killer day
EDIT: or evening/night, I guess lol