What UPS To Buy As Fast As Possible

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • How should you pick the right UPS for your computer so you'll be prepared for a power outage?
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  • @Stelio_Contos
    @Stelio_Contos 3 года назад +459

    I'd love to see a revisit on this video, or an LTT video where you round up a bunch of the best ones on Amazon or something and put them to the test.

    • @DuelingDexperts
      @DuelingDexperts 2 года назад +35

      That's literally what I was searching for when I find this lol

    • @michel_laforge
      @michel_laforge 2 года назад +4

      Me too!

    • @gjkrisa
      @gjkrisa 2 года назад +2

      Yea I’ve seen a video of an older apc ups where they were showing that it’s using a crappy syn sine wave and didn’t explain why it’s bad other then it’s noisy.
      I know of these guys went into it they have better presentation and be more knowledgeable

    • @DuelingDexperts
      @DuelingDexperts 2 года назад +6

      @@gjkrisa maybe we can bug then into it being one of the first videos out of the new testing lab they built.

    • @gjkrisa
      @gjkrisa 2 года назад +1

      @@DuelingDexperts I just watched one of Linus’s older videos that explains way better in about the same amount of time. And then the more in-depth video is a ncix tech video

  • @Yada_690
    @Yada_690 3 года назад +27

    Me: *starts ranked game*
    Electricity: *a d i o s*

  • @mfThump
    @mfThump 8 лет назад +379

    That awkward moment when you forget to plug your monitor into your UPS.

  • @kaesden
    @kaesden 8 лет назад +89

    Being a tech enthusiast site, a 'quick' video on UPS buying should include the critical piece of advice to make sure that if you are using a modern mid-high end power supply(pretty much ANY power supply with an 80+ rating of any kind), it will have Active PFC. This REQUIRES a power supply that can output a pure sinewave(or as close as a digital device is capable of delivering). Many low end models deliver stepped sinewave power which would be perfectly fine for charging your cell phone, but your computer will just plain not work. So when it switches to battery power, your computer will just instantly shut off. Make sure you buy a power supply that is stated as compatible with active PFC power supplies.

    • @obiokeke9963
      @obiokeke9963 6 лет назад +5

      Sorry but I don't understand, too much use of 'power supply.' Could you clarify when you mean pc power supply vs ups

    • @MrMischelito
      @MrMischelito 3 года назад

      @@obiokeke9963 the ups

    • @tOSdude
      @tOSdude 2 года назад +9

      @@obiokeke9963 A little late but here we go:
      PC power supply has Active PFC (whatever that means, I'm not gonna look it up right now)
      If you have a power supply like that, you need a pure-sine UPS
      Low end UPS's will have stepped output (or in the worst case I've seen square wave outputs before) and these will case the computer to cut out on battery power (rendering the UPS obsolete)
      Get a UPS that is stated to be compatible with active PFC.

  • @Kippykip
    @Kippykip 6 лет назад +65

    i still don't know which one to buy

    • @DesertCookie
      @DesertCookie 3 года назад +1

      But you know how to buy one.

    • @lethauntic
      @lethauntic 3 года назад +1

      @@DesertCookie But he doesn't know which one to buy.

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад

      @@lethauntic APCs are quite good in my experiences, seems to be replaceable on anything better than the VERY low end models. Plus they even support Linux out of the box. :)

  • @Epotheros
    @Epotheros 8 лет назад +23

    When I built my desktop I made sure to get a ups as a means of protecting it from sudden shut downs and surges. I got a APC 850 VA for around $90 on sale and that will run my desktop on idle (45 w) for an hour or under a heavy load, like a game, (~200 w) for 20 minutes. It also probably saved my PC from receiving a pretty powerful electrical surge that blew up an old surge protector plugged into the outlet by switching to batter power as soon as it sensed fluctuations in the voltage. That $90 investment might of saved my $1000 build that was less than 2 months old at the time.

  • @ralmslb
    @ralmslb 8 лет назад +136

    You guys failed to mention that there are different types of UPS output such as quare wave or sine wave making them not compatible with all power supplies...

    • @pcfreak1992
      @pcfreak1992 8 лет назад +40

      +ralmslb yeah, I really missed that but good thing they made half of the video a sponser spot.

    • @TheMARIYADAS
      @TheMARIYADAS 8 лет назад +1

      +ralmslb square wave

    • @ralmslb
      @ralmslb 8 лет назад +1

      +Mariyadas Joseph yeah I wrote this o my phone half sleeping lol

    • @dvgog
      @dvgog 7 лет назад +3

      why would we need a true clean sine wave when every pc power supply in existance uses full bridge rectifier anyway to get pulse dc voltage as a first block in the chain so we get same shit in the end ?

    • @ralmslb
      @ralmslb 7 лет назад +2

      A lot of power supplies nowadays, if not all, use/have Active PFC which doesnt go well with Square Wave UPS causing sudden power offs or the power supply not work at all. So yeah, it matters, you dont just send garbage power into it with a bit of magic dust to have a perfect output...

  • @jrsmithunited
    @jrsmithunited 8 лет назад +193

    Couple of points that have been missed:
    Some UPS have the system run through the battery the entire time, while others only switch over to battery when it senses a problem. In that case, you need to make sure the UPS is fast enough before the stored electricity in your computer drops and the comp turns off anyway.
    Also, some UPS have phone and network pass through to protect you from surges through the phone/internet lines (lightning strikes). Many also have plugs that on the UPS that dont run through the battery. These are for surge protection only, but wont drain the battery in the event of a blackout. Good for running multi-monitor setups. Not to mention the idea behind smoothing out the line power itself for power that fluctuates, but doesn't necessarily create brown-outs that you can notice.
    Less than 4 minutes of content and you missed so much.

    • @amahashadow
      @amahashadow 8 лет назад +7

      That was my first thought as well. The most important characteristic of a ups is is working mode (offline (which replaces the line supply when it goes down), line interactive (a step up that will take over if the line is too bad), and on-line (which is always charging and powering the batteries at the same time for perfect power output at the cost of replacing the batteries after a few years)

    • @kiskiller3
      @kiskiller3 5 лет назад +10

      online UPSs dont run on batteries the whole time. they convert the AC input current to DC, then back to AC again for your sensitive devices. when the input AC goes out, the internal DC power is instantly switched to the battery source and then converted to AC via the same circuitry that was powerwing the protected equipement prior to the power outage. the onlineupss have ZERO transfer time..

    • @haberdasherrykr8886
      @haberdasherrykr8886 3 года назад +2

      @@kiskiller3 not zero; negligible

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад +4

      @@haberdasherrykr8886 More accurately it happens so fast that even the shittiest of PSUes don't even "knows" about the outages/dips right?

    • @rancor4513
      @rancor4513 Год назад

      ​@@kiskiller3thats called line interactive no?

  • @ButtonWalls
    @ButtonWalls 8 лет назад +86

    I would recommend a usp-s torque factory new.

    • @hydrohydrahead3355
      @hydrohydrahead3355 8 лет назад +1

      lol

    • @corruptedminds5679
      @corruptedminds5679 8 лет назад

      +XXXYOLOSWAGMLG-X-XXBUTTONWALLSXX-XXX( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)420YOLO69OPTICXXX4CHANXXXpRAISEN13GHT34GL3
      0_0 That is the longest username I've ever seen.

    • @Eywalian
      @Eywalian 8 лет назад +1

      +XXXYOLOSWAGMLG-X-XXBUTTONWALLSXX-XXX( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)420YOLO69OPTICXXX4CHANXXXpRAISEN13GHT34GL3 nah man caiman all the way

    • @navneetraman
      @navneetraman 8 лет назад +1

      +XXXYOLOSWAGMLG-X-XXBUTTONWALLSXX-XXX( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)420YOLO69OPTICXXX4CHANXXXpRAISEN13GHT34GL3 dont forget stattrak

    • @TripleSuccotash1
      @TripleSuccotash1 8 лет назад

      +MrArtexxx Why is that allowed...

  • @Neo.Picard
    @Neo.Picard 3 года назад +4

    Perfect video: 1) it was short & succinct, just what I needed; 2) it answered all of my questions; and 3) you placed the advertisement at the end, giving the viewers the option of stopping the video if the ad wasn’t of interest to them. THANK YOU for putting this video together in all the right ways.

  • @redeye998
    @redeye998 8 лет назад +204

    3 mins content, 2 mins ad?

    • @TWiStErRob
      @TWiStErRob 8 лет назад +11

      It's clear when they switch to ads mode, they always use a horrible segway. Just go to whatever you want to watch next. Tough I agree, it would be nice to go a little deeper and do a 20 second ad at max, everyone knows Audible, Linda, Dollar-shave and all that stuff, and no one cares, or do they? Why are they keep making these ads?

    • @traso56
      @traso56 6 лет назад +15

      because the need money to run the channel and many people use adblocker so this is their way just skip it it's not that hard

    • @Nigghachu
      @Nigghachu 6 лет назад +6

      Alexander Raptakis who do you think pays for these videos?

    • @gavinvollure2252
      @gavinvollure2252 3 года назад +2

      Half minute content 3 and a half minutes jokes and 1 minute ads

  • @CobisTaba
    @CobisTaba 8 лет назад +323

    Ehh... this did not really teach people anything. I expected a little more detail, comparison, vendor tips, etc.

    • @davidflores909
      @davidflores909 8 лет назад +24

      +Lex Sietses
      Yeah, I was also expecting the waveform quality to be mentioned.

    • @enes8k9
      @enes8k9 7 лет назад +12

      They make some extra videos just to put those advertisements in.. I would not mind the ads if the video was informative as you said. Most of us that search for videos like this don't know much or anything about UPS

    • @HugoRBLX
      @HugoRBLX 5 лет назад +6

      It’s tech quickie, it’s quick tips most of the time

    • @kiskiller3
      @kiskiller3 5 лет назад +5

      Make sure its pure sinewave and at LEAST a line interactive model, (ideally online). APC or Tripplite. dont touch anything else.. simple. haha.

    • @darknessblades
      @darknessblades 4 года назад +2

      Same. More like they bough like 50+ UPS
      of various brands. all of the best possible type.
      Like:
      Brand A {model}{watt}}{type code}
      then the best wattage of each model.
      Then show what the best possible one is. for every possible setup.
      Sadly i have not found any guide like this online.

  • @KASUALKILLAS
    @KASUALKILLAS 8 лет назад +74

    You missed the part of needing a "Pure Sine Wave" UPS for Active PFC PSU's.

    • @LinkinPark4Ever1996
      @LinkinPark4Ever1996 5 лет назад +3

      Finally someone... I had to scroll too far down

    • @CatalystReaction
      @CatalystReaction 5 лет назад +7

      Explain, I’m new

    • @varunthapliyal8960
      @varunthapliyal8960 4 года назад +1

      Pure Sine Wave UPS are called 'On - Line Ups'
      these provide purest and clearest forms of DC current to your pc components without any ups and downs in voltage

    • @verdrehteseele8525
      @verdrehteseele8525 4 года назад +1

      @@varunthapliyal8960 load-shedding is regularl in my area. I've heard offline ups contribute into destroying your pc. It is better to go ups less than using offline pc. Is it true?

    • @DriantX
      @DriantX 3 года назад +1

      @@varunthapliyal8960 There are line-interactive UPS models with pure sinewave output as well. I prefer them over online ones for personal use, as they only kick in when needed (voltage fluctuations & blackouts), which makes them run cooler, way more silent (either fanless, or fans kick in when battery is in use / high usage), and batteries themselves last much longer.

  • @alex_oiman
    @alex_oiman 7 лет назад +62

    as always techquickie saves me from reading on the internet.

  • @peter_smyth
    @peter_smyth 8 лет назад +1

    My dad works for the regional electricity company, and used to have to deal with requests for reimbursement for people's chilled and frozen food when the power went out for a long time.

  • @davidjohnston5798
    @davidjohnston5798 5 лет назад +2

    I discovered recently that some forms of Linux will display the battery level of a UPS connected via USB in the same way it would show battery life on a laptop, making it easy to see right from the desktop.

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад

      Works very well on APC units apparently. So useful!

  • @912cal28son
    @912cal28son 8 лет назад +1

    I was looking for a ups surge protector today, and like magic you guys posted exactly what I was looking for and helped me make the right purchase. Thank you.

  • @esrevinu.
    @esrevinu. 2 года назад +2

    Thx, slick,... was just now jumpin on the UPS train since deciding to build a NAS, and this video was helpful with the immediate confusion I ran into when researched UPS's haha

  • @KerenWang
    @KerenWang 8 лет назад +1

    So what's a good recommendation for a 5830k + 980ti +raid + couple drive + 2monitor set up? Preferably with all the software saving options.

  • @unironicallysomething9757
    @unironicallysomething9757 8 лет назад +213

    You could say a UPS is a form of... defense against the dark arts.
    Why did I write this.

  • @DivyaPareek07
    @DivyaPareek07 8 лет назад +4

    You forgot to mention the part where some UPSs come with stuff like LCD monitors to display power in and output, manual key controls to make adjustments to get the best possible Sine wave and bunch of other connectors like, micro USB B, USB 2.0, optical connectors and most importantly, 'circuit breakers'.
    Btw, I am just filling in the holes, I am not an expert or a critic and I love you guys. Awaiting new episodes and seasons of Scrapyard Wars.

  • @shriramvenu
    @shriramvenu 3 года назад +2

    P=IV is only watts in DC... When you go to AC capacitive and inductive effects mean that load has a complex component as well. THAT is why UPSs are rated in VA. Typically It's the battery Ah rating multiplied by the RMS AC voltage.
    In addition there are losses from the DC->AC inverter as well, meaning the output power rating in watts is less than the VA rating of the battery.
    Ultimately what matters is 2 things. The size of the battery in Ah (determines how long it can keep your devices powered) and the max load of the Inverter in Watts (determines how much it can power simultaneously)

  • @chemicallust77
    @chemicallust77 2 года назад +3

    This is one of the reasons I use my laptop as a desktop replacement....it's a layer of protection a regular desktop doesn't have...I still use a UPS for other stuff on my desk though and have the laptop plugged into the surge protection side of the UPS

  • @tim94com
    @tim94com 3 года назад +1

    VERY helpful years later. Thank you guys!

  • @behemothinferno
    @behemothinferno 8 лет назад +5

    Keep in mind the efficiency of the PSU so if you have a 85% efficient power supply, you will have to factor in that 15% loss and add it to the UPS rating since it will be drawing 15% more than it can give out from the UPS.

  • @michaeljerome6591
    @michaeljerome6591 8 лет назад +141

    audible - build it beautiful

    • @PixelPickaxe
      @PixelPickaxe 8 лет назад +7

      Squarespace is bringing DDR4 to the mainstream

    • @rahul38474
      @rahul38474 8 лет назад +3

      PixelPickaxe With a variety of modular parts and accessories.

    • @rahul38474
      @rahul38474 8 лет назад

      ***** "Book accessories"

    • @StanleyYork
      @StanleyYork 8 лет назад

      +Dexter Dickinson You Should ;)

    • @flyinmonkeydud
      @flyinmonkeydud 8 лет назад

      You should

  • @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz
    @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz 8 лет назад +9

    And here is what they forgot to tell you: Cheaper UPS units do not produce a true sine wave AC power; instead they produce a square wave that mostly matches an AC sine wave. Some more expansive UPS units like Smart UPS from APC will produce true sine wave output. Why does this matter? Two reasons, if you thinking of nesting 2 cheap ups units by plugging one into the other to double battery life, that won't work; b/c second ups will reject the square wave from the first ups treating it as bad power. Also, running a square wave AC CAN DAMAGE your hi-fi audio gear, so if you paid $500+ for a fancy receiver and speakers, spend the $300 to get true sine wave UPS.

    • @bardawulf5827
      @bardawulf5827 8 лет назад +1

      +Igor Petrusky
      I was going to type this info up myself! A very embarrassing oversight IMO to not have mentioned the importance of understanding and purchasing an UPS to match your Active or passive power supply! Buy the wrong kind and you ruin the UPS within 6 months.

    • @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz
      @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz 8 лет назад +1

      Something I want to add. If the devices connected to ups have ac/dc converters on them, most likely the squarewave ups will be ok, bc the acdc converters usually use bridge rectifier, which does not care about true sin wave. But for oldschool analog devices driven directly by ac a square wave can be a no-no.

  • @Chr0nalis
    @Chr0nalis 8 лет назад +14

    VA is not the same as Watts not because of resistance present in electrical load but because of reactance. Reactance
    is almost always undesirable in load.

    • @fliprabbit
      @fliprabbit 8 лет назад

      yes it is

    • @Fantasma25
      @Fantasma25 8 лет назад

      +Shagas Heizenberg True. VA is the apparent power. In the power industry, people try to make VA equal to the real power by messing with banks of capacitors. The ratio between those two is called Power Factor. A good power factor is about 0.95 (maybe 0.93). Anything below that is a huge waste of power

  • @ewwwt
    @ewwwt Год назад +2

    Thank you!! Not many tech channels talk about this very much. :)

  • @ImmodderNation
    @ImmodderNation 8 лет назад +2

    If your power supply supports PFC (Power Factor Correction), make sure the UPS supports it. For example, with CyberPower, the AVR UPS line is cheaper than the PFC, but it's not a good choice for my Corsair RM750x.

  • @Starfals
    @Starfals 8 лет назад

    How often do i have to replace the UPS unit/battery? Every few years? Is it hard or expensive?

  • @gacomics5951
    @gacomics5951 4 года назад

    I have a question: we have our own central heating in the home and there's a device with its battery (like the big one in cars) that keeps the heating pump working in case of power outage (otherwise the heating boiler would literally explode).
    Can I plug my PC into that device? The device is only used during the winter so this will give me enough time to save for a more expensive UPS.

  • @aniforprez
    @aniforprez 7 лет назад +3

    it's sort of odd to see people actually not know what a ups is since power cuts are so rare and you don't need them. where i live, power outages are not as rare (once a week in summer and once a month maybe in winter)but the probability of them happening is high enough that everyone who even considers building a desktop has to first ask what type of ups they should be getting

  • @nyonemura5708
    @nyonemura5708 5 лет назад +1

    so if my pc uses a maximum of 470w, i have a 650w psu, how many va should i get?

  • @D8W2P4
    @D8W2P4 7 лет назад +1

    I wonder if they have in desktop tower UPS (PSU > UPS > Motherboard/components) because there are power losses from the battery charger going from ac to dc, then from the battery through the dc to ac inverter, and then again from the PSU when it converts the ac back to dc.

  • @SYSTEM__32
    @SYSTEM__32 2 года назад +1

    @Techquickie Could you guys update this video for 2022 with a top 3 or 5 list. I’m moving soon to an area that loses power often. So I’d love to make the right choice when buying a UPS.

  • @Fish_nipples1998
    @Fish_nipples1998 3 года назад +4

    The tip about the food in your fridge is definitely a great point to make. It's one thing to expect normal power outages from anywhere from like a minute to an hour or two. But if your power outage lasts for multiple hours on end my suggestion would be to not open the fridge or at least not open it anymore than you have to in order to preserve coldness for as long as you can. It happened to me twice now where the power has been out for more than 16 hours and fridges all though they are insulated aren't designed to hold temperature for very long. Though there was a lot of food I could save, there's also a lot of food I had to throw out after the power came back on. I would definitely recommend a UPS and quite frankly I've actually bought one that cost me almost $8,000 but it covers what I consider "essential things." It'll keep my fridge running for an extra half hour(or an hour if that's all I have plugged in.) But I also have a lot of smaller ones around the house for my computer. And I actually have one that I paid about 800 bucks for just so I can use an LED lamp in the event that it ever happens again just so I have light. Off the grid with the LED light (and possibly my phone charging) for about three and a half to four hours. The other thing I did was buy a gas powered generator which of course is less useful for a PC but can be used to charged a UPS. IF ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. As well as a couple other things. I would recommend having power backup of one form or another that's adequate for your bare minimum needs. And I would consider bare minimum far below your everyday standard because in the event that you have to use it you're not going to be in normal circumstances.

    • @Fish_nipples1998
      @Fish_nipples1998 3 года назад

      That being said if you can afford gas and you have a place to put it it might be useful just to have a gas powered generator as well as a UPS that suits your needs. Because as long as you have gas and keep it maintain ed the gas generator can power anywhere from a couple to many different things. The diesel generator I have at my work can power about a block's worth of houses. Although It only powers the building that I work in because my building has such a high power usage. (Medical building with end of life care.) That's where I got the idea to have both the UPS and the gas powered generator. UPS for my computer and my fridge. But the fact that you can use the gas power generator to power the UPS actually works out really well. And theoretically as long as my IPS can maintain an internet connection then I can power my router and my computer or my phone off of either my UPS or my gas generator. just things to consider obviously if you have the money for one or both of them.If you're going for more of a survival type thinking I would consider the gas generator and buy gas. However if you're used to more like rolling blackouts (especially in large cities.) than I would suggest the UPS it'll give you enough time to save your stuff or even protect your stuff without you losing data or your progress like he said. Quite frankly if you have something like a desktop where you rely solely on wall power I would buy a UPS anyway just to protect it. I found them as cheap as 50 maybe 60 bucks. And It will work for most PCs long enough just to stop or save your work and shut down your computer properly.

  • @shriramvenu
    @shriramvenu 3 года назад

    i wish you would have covered inverter types as well as whether modified/simulated sine wave inverters have any problems with 80+ PF corrected power supplies

  • @TheHumanRanger
    @TheHumanRanger 6 месяцев назад +1

    I want to be able to run a presentation online for work without worry of a power blackout/brownout
    Say I have a standard 120V household power line, and want to run my PC for 10 minutes. The PSU is 600w, monitor about 60 W and I want to keep my modem running. The PSU is sized mainly for my GPU. Also, what must stay running is my wireless headphones and my Scarlett 212 and Rode podmic. The PC I would imagine would be running on minimum power for running Powerpoint, Zoom and a few other apps.
    What is the VA/W that I would need for a UPS? Thank you in advance

  • @ZkReAr-fs5do
    @ZkReAr-fs5do Год назад

    Question... I have a 750w psu I want some protection for when power goes out and doesn't mess up my mobo ....do I need a 700w+ ups???? I just want enough power to turn the pc off safely ( 10seconds)

  • @jamesdk5417
    @jamesdk5417 8 лет назад

    I have a Synology NAS and would like to add a UPS, do you know if I can set it to auto shutdown with a NAS? I was thinking of getting a cyber power unit.

  • @LaythKamal
    @LaythKamal 8 лет назад

    do I need one for a 400W APU PC? The power in my area is reliable but they sometimes disconnect power for late payments.

  • @DeilGrist
    @DeilGrist 8 лет назад +1

    Surprising relevant; I was just looking at buying a UPS. Good tips!

  • @xeno1453
    @xeno1453 5 лет назад

    Hello😊 what kind of UPS would you recommend for PS4 Slim and pro?

  • @AegisDynamics
    @AegisDynamics Год назад

    HELP PLZ. Ι have a 10k euro PC ready to assemble and I have a ax1600i PSU. Let's assume I need 1600watt for my PC as example. What ups is the best to give me time to shutdown properly if the power goes out?

  • @feathers767
    @feathers767 6 лет назад

    Will 900w 1500VA ups be enought for 850 w PSU ? i just want to use it for Bios updates .-.

  • @defan2105
    @defan2105 4 года назад

    So how do I calculate the amount of power that I have uses? As you can tell, I'm just an end-user! I have a modem, monitor, signal booster (for cell), the main computer (desktop with be quiet! SYSTEM POWER U9 500W BRONZE), and cordless phone base. I have a UPS APC-ES750 and replacement batteries never get past 8 months before I need a new one.

  • @imashayasok9193
    @imashayasok9193 6 лет назад

    My pc uses about 500w and the output watt of ups im planing to purchase is 360w .is it good for a backup time of 10 minuts..?

  • @jesusiskingofkingsz
    @jesusiskingofkingsz 5 лет назад

    I know about the data saving, but what about damage to the parts? electricity here goes out a lot, will getting shutdown and spiked ruin my pc?

  • @ModFreaks
    @ModFreaks 7 лет назад

    hello guys great video can i askif a RELISYS 700VA UPS is a good one? a friend give it to me cous he had two of theme but am hesitating to use it on my desktop pc thank you.

  • @Gamersway321go
    @Gamersway321go 7 лет назад

    i have i3-2100, 1 HDD and " PowerColor HD7870 GHz Edition 2GB GDDR5 OC" and 22" Bencq LED monitor
    Any suggestions? am i suppose to get 1000VA UPS or even More ??

  • @dararithphotographer7767
    @dararithphotographer7767 6 лет назад

    I have PC which using power supply 750w , what is the right UPS for it?

  • @sircolby45
    @sircolby45 8 лет назад +5

    I often hear that actual Pure Sine Wave (not simulated) is necessary for modern power supplies. Is this true?

    • @traviscombs6947
      @traviscombs6947 8 лет назад +2

      +sircolby45 Yeah, I'm surprised this video didn't mention it at all. Some power supplies that emphasize power efficiency (especially 80 Plus certified ones) will depend on clean, consistent pure sine wave, instead of the approximate step kind. When I bought my UPS a few years ago, I was going to buy an APC brand unit that didn't have pure sine wave, and I found my PSU (Corsair TX650) has issues with non-PSW UPSes. I bought a CyberPower 1350PFCLCD instead and it's been fantastic. I even bought a second for my living room.

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад

      @@traviscombs6947 That's absurdly weird, even the cheapo non replaceable APC unit (it's was like 450VA or even less, rated for 255 max wattage) did just fine service for my Corsair 650 watts PSU and it is a bronze power supply.

  • @SauvikRoy
    @SauvikRoy 3 года назад +2

    I just find this so much fun: 0:28, I could put it on loop and listen to it for an hour!😁
    Great video as always!

  • @AnimilesYT
    @AnimilesYT 8 лет назад +26

    after the part that has to to do with the volt-amps and watt stuff (1:50) I'd've liked an example where you showed some quick math. I feel like that'd really help a lot.

    • @DrakoonLP
      @DrakoonLP 6 лет назад +1

      Animiles 2+2=4-1=3

    • @DrakoonLP
      @DrakoonLP 6 лет назад +2

      Quick Mafffs

    • @alessandrobarbieri2098
      @alessandrobarbieri2098 4 года назад

      S*S=P*P + Q*Q
      Where
      S [VA] is the apparent power
      P [W] is the active power
      Q [VAR] is the reactive power
      also ϕ=atan2(Q/P)
      and cos(ϕ) is the displacement factor (that's equal to the power factor in the linear case)

  • @azimalif266
    @azimalif266 6 лет назад

    Does ups va depend on the battery? can I increase the battery capacity to increase va?

  • @mauriciodeer
    @mauriciodeer 4 года назад

    so if I have a PC Build with an average wattage consumption of 500w (+ monitor) but my PSU is an 850w 80Plus Bronze, how much VA does my UPS need?

  • @tihammd
    @tihammd 6 лет назад

    does power outage damages any pc parts like motherboard or drives?

  • @obiokeke9963
    @obiokeke9963 6 лет назад

    So if my computer will realistically use about 450 watts but i use a 650 power supply, should I calculate for that? I ask because when I add all the max (number stated on labels) wattage for the electronics sharing a power-strip/desk it's about 1300 watts. and that would mean I'd need a Pure Sine UPS with at least 2000VA which doesn't look too common/affordable online. A lot of them go for over $1000, fml.

  • @network_king
    @network_king 8 лет назад +5

    I've seen and worked with a lot of UPS units from cheap home ones to server room 3500VA models.
    I don't care much for APC UPS because they have been known to just charge the batteries constantly and burn out the batteries.
    So far the best UPS I have run across is the Eaton 5P 1000 model. From what I can tell it is a line interactive model.The only cons are it has a small fan, and I think retail is like $700-1000, if you want the LAN mgmt card I think that is like $150-200 more.
    There are also 2 types of UPS the sine wave models (primarily older models). Or switchmode UPS which works like you PSU just in reverse. The boost transformer is small and driven by a high-frequency SMPS driver. Usually the switch mode UPS are lighter, but that can be hard to tell just from that because some like the 5P1000 have a large transformer for the line interactive part which throws that result off.

    • @Jez2008UK
      @Jez2008UK Год назад

      For those of us still trying to decide which UPS to buy, there are those that say APC are the best, others that say CyberPower are the worst or best, etc etc etc etc.... what a nightmare! Personally, I'm going to go with an APC, I particularly like the facility on some of their models which enable you to connect multiple UPS's together to get longer battery time.

  • @mercuriallimit
    @mercuriallimit 8 лет назад

    how much VA do i need for 27" imac 2012?

  • @ChristianIndefensoTV
    @ChristianIndefensoTV 3 года назад

    how many VA for a 600w psu? Thanks. 😊

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад

      I doubt your pulling 600 watts, so I would say the APC 650VA model (I think it's the Back-UP 650M?) would do if you just want something that'll buys you enough time to shut down your game, save your docs or what not. Plus even if your running Linux it will even be supported right when you plugs in the USB "monitor". Linux Mint even includes an option to shut her down should the battery runs on low.
      Otherwise are you feeling you need more run time than that?

  • @TWiStErRob
    @TWiStErRob 8 лет назад

    Do I need to worry about any of this if I have a 4yo laptop with an extra monitor and speakers attached, all on 3 separate plugs?
    The worst case I can think of is that I lose the second monitor and Windows 7 falls back to the laptop screen and I have no sound.

  • @thatoneothergamer6158
    @thatoneothergamer6158 3 года назад

    i have a power supply that is rated at 750 watts but i can say i dont think i use it all at all
    i run a ryzen 7 3700x and a gtx 1060 3gb (dont mind the bottleneck)
    and some regular 2x8 3200mhz ram
    should i be good with a smaller ups

  • @DuckNationWTD
    @DuckNationWTD 8 лет назад

    i live in a area with spotty power so buying a UPS was a must when i got my new computer

  • @josiahroberts4184
    @josiahroberts4184 8 лет назад

    So glad you made a video on this!

  • @billbobbingson673
    @billbobbingson673 8 лет назад +4

    What about pure vs. simulated sine wave ups units?

  • @AliAdam80
    @AliAdam80 8 лет назад +14

    who else read the thumbnail and wondered what the hell "ups" are until they looked at the title and saw UPS? 😂

  • @panos1b
    @panos1b 8 лет назад

    can i ask something : if i plu 1 ups in to another (same model) will this give me twice the up time ?

    • @R3DWiNGPuRiTy
      @R3DWiNGPuRiTy 8 лет назад

      they dont recommend connecting 2 or more ups to each other. it will void warranty

    • @panos1b
      @panos1b 8 лет назад

      oh ok

  • @yusvariharzairawan3525
    @yusvariharzairawan3525 8 лет назад

    if my power supply 750watt + monitor and my ups 600watt how many minutes off before run out?

  • @SteveJobzz
    @SteveJobzz 8 лет назад

    My PC consumes 375W under load.
    My UPS is 800VA. But when there is a power outage and my pc is under load, it just keeps restarting(i assume startup is also full load).
    could someone please tell me why?

  • @ilynpayne7491
    @ilynpayne7491 2 года назад

    Can a ups be used to power other stuff like electric fan?

  • @gauravkingmahar
    @gauravkingmahar 7 лет назад

    just curious why don't people use sinewave home inverter instead of buying UPS.... Actually my UPS gone faulty and I m planning to buy a new sinewave based inverter .... Please guide..
    I have a 625 watt seasonic psu

  • @hikaru-live
    @hikaru-live 8 лет назад

    Some UPS have the option of being powered and charge its batteries form solar panels. If your home have solar panels installed or you plan to dose you can use one of these with adequate capacity, and you may be able to pull part (all) of your home off grid, running (almost) entirely off solar power.

  • @o_o6869
    @o_o6869 3 года назад

    this is always a must have piece of tech in my home for sure no joke

  • @giorgos3747
    @giorgos3747 2 года назад

    Is it ok if the VA is higher than your pc needs?

  • @snakewhisperer2010
    @snakewhisperer2010 8 лет назад

    Thank you guys for this video

  • @darklinggolem
    @darklinggolem 7 лет назад

    In a Nushell. A PowerBank/Battery Pack but with a Wall Outlet and a Step Up/Down converter and a Power Management

  • @DanielMiller8
    @DanielMiller8 7 лет назад

    I had a UPS about 12 years ago whilst at University and I was gaming when the power tripped. My friend was writing a last minute Essay but lost his work. I was playing Half-Life all I didn't was walk to the electric box to switch the power back on. I would really recommend a ups.

  • @ChrisNicol777
    @ChrisNicol777 8 лет назад +1

    This is weirdly fitting. My mains power seemed to die a couple times - came back on immediately - just earlier tonight.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 8 лет назад

      +Phantasmal Wordsmith that sucks, where i live we have a rather stable power supply, albeit we have overhead service and there's a ton of trees so a tree can easily knock out power, but even then it's just for an hour or 2, the last blackout we had was during a windstorm, it wasn't a tree falling, but a short somewhere in the grid caused a transformer to overheat, it's safety mechanism's failed, and next thing ya know there's a substation fire, took them a few minutes to cut the power though, it was a good few hours until they had the power re-routed and it was back on.

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo 8 лет назад +2

    IMO every computer should have a good UPS, especially if it is a workstation. The power cleaning alone will save you so much uncertainty with PSU's and Mobos and theoretically make them last longer.
    The only tip I can provide is if your workload maxed out is 450 watts like mine is (on a 750 or 850w PSU) then you really do want a 1500 VA (865w effective) UPS. This will allow for multiple screens, speakers and quite a few peripherals to stay function for the 6 or so minutes that the battery can sustain at full power.
    It's also a 2nd backup for RAID5 power loss so you're not depending entirely on the onboard battery backup. It's actually better because it's enough time to flush the ram to drive and have no worries about stripe corruption.

  • @syedhussaini951
    @syedhussaini951 8 лет назад

    any suggestions for a 800w pc

  • @CorpusOrganic
    @CorpusOrganic 8 лет назад

    Waveform? I keep reading of certain power supplies needing UPSs that fully mimic outlet power for some reason. I have yet to have a PSU like that in the house. Still would have been nice to know if it is would be a good idea to buy that UPS type or not. As it seams to cost significantly more then the other model types.
    "The Girl With All the Gifts" is a pretty awesome read. I have gotten to the action part and have to say it is just the kind of book that makes for great listening.
    Doesn't do any good to have a decent UPS if the PC isn't set up right to take advantage of it. I am still not certain how to do that. I mostly just set the default Windows power features to force a shutdown while the battery still has a lot left in it. I am still remembering UPSs that would report a hour of run time to the computer and run out of power a minute after the power outage.
    That thing about what wattage to shoot for will help. I tend to match them up and not go over.

  • @harvest1236
    @harvest1236 6 лет назад

    I have a cpu with output power of 600 to 700 watts, so how much UPS power is able for my cpu ? Thks

  • @1berkut
    @1berkut 8 лет назад +3

    LTT should review a few ups i would like to know how actuate the volt amp ratings are and how good the software is

    • @kiskiller3
      @kiskiller3 8 лет назад

      +1berkut the v/a readings arent really accurate and alot of them have crappy software... sadly...

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад

      @@kiskiller3 APC units will let you just hook up the "monitoring" USB even to Linux. Shows battery life, time and even let me have the option to shut her down should the battery runs on empty.
      No need to use their shit software.

  • @asdjesdsd
    @asdjesdsd 3 года назад

    i got a 1500va 900w for a 850w power supply, that should be enough considering i will use max 80% of the psu, right.

  • @wyglif
    @wyglif 7 лет назад +1

    Should it be "which" USP to buy?

  • @pacsmacks7142
    @pacsmacks7142 4 года назад

    How about doing a bios update. Which would be recommended for a ups? I’m not trying to spend $200 unless it’s necessary don’t really care if my work gets loss but if my motherboard breaks then that’s a big ass deal

  • @AnimagicMissile
    @AnimagicMissile 8 лет назад +16

    4:00 "Audio books are great to listen to when you're sitting on the subway, sitting on the train, sitting on the bus, sitting on the uhhhh..."
    ...toilet?

  • @DriftHyena
    @DriftHyena 7 лет назад

    I've got a 1500VA pure sine ups for my desktop, server, 2 monitors, printer, and modem. Can run all of them for about 45 minutes tops. Use to be longer but I think the batteries have gone capoopoo on me.

  • @TheMBB99
    @TheMBB99 8 лет назад

    Thank you, very helpfull episode!

  • @ruevr6753
    @ruevr6753 3 года назад

    Can someone link me a ups that would be good to keep a PC with ryzen 5 3600 & gtx 1080ti running at stock as well as a normal router?

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад

      Grab yourself a 900VA for the PC and at least a 450VA for the router. APC is a safe bet from my experiences and their reliable 650VA models and up let you replace the batteries. As well as let Linux does it's things on them as well. So you are not REQUIRED to use their dumb software either.

  • @MasterLPV
    @MasterLPV 8 лет назад +1

    my APC UPS rates in watts, says max load is 865W with my desktop a 4790k/770/6drives/2monitor it gives me usually a estimated run time of 45minutes ,, been pretty dang good so far, i live in an area with tons black outs sometimes multiple in a day and alot of energy spikes, my apc has gotten through i'd say about 50 outages without a single issue

    • @R3DWiNGPuRiTy
      @R3DWiNGPuRiTy 8 лет назад

      what model is it? been looking for something that lasts more than 15 minutes with those wattage

    • @MasterLPV
      @MasterLPV 8 лет назад +1

      Rj Lao BR1500G+ but note my computer doesn't use even half its max watt at full use

  • @irishpac22
    @irishpac22 4 года назад

    Can anyone help me with this, I am really worried.
    I know the battery of my ups is fully charged, but it's warm to hot, it is plugged in and turned off. is this normal?

  • @TTHIAGO666
    @TTHIAGO666 9 месяцев назад

    i'm looking for a video that explains things well. the problem is that the best videos are in english so i don't understand some things.
    I want to connect my PC with a 700Watt power supply plus the monitor the problem is that I have to know the VAT's needed, I went to Amazon for example and the UPS does not say Watts but VA's, with the power supply I have for the PC + the monitor how many VA's does the UPS have to have ?
    I've already been told that the UPS doesn't need to be 700w, probably 500w is enough for the PC and monitor to be on for 10 minutes, which is plenty of time to leave the game, save, close programs and turn off the PC.
    The power supply I currently have is 450w and the UPS I have can handle 5 minutes until the battery runs out, but next year I want to buy a new GPU for the PC, and the GPU is the GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS OC (125 watts) and of course i'm going to have to buy a new power supply so i can get that gpu working, maybe with a UPS with 500W it would be enough, I think, I don't know and I also don't know how to do the calculation for VA's, yes I went to google but I don't understand and I find it confusing, anyone help me how much VA's i need ?

  • @ParthRastogi
    @ParthRastogi 8 лет назад +7

    how many time that has happened to LMG?

    • @drbren12
      @drbren12 8 лет назад +1

      +Parth Rastogi Never, they are people who live in a first world country and have to much spare money

  • @Bell-et1lg
    @Bell-et1lg 3 года назад +1

    Ltt should really do an updated video about UPS’s. one that includes brand names and compares quality.

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 3 года назад +1

      I am more interested of modern options like lithium ion, graphene, etc. I am still wondering of the days of getting even Teslas on the cheap, surely there would be cheaper 1KW or larger UPSes?

  • @PokeAmp
    @PokeAmp Год назад

    So if my psu is 1200w do I need a 1200w UPS too?

  • @assizpereira1374
    @assizpereira1374 8 лет назад

    Great video as always

  • @Wawikirsinger
    @Wawikirsinger 8 лет назад

    If i use like 630W in total (pc+monitor+tv(as 2 monitor)+audio) how big the UPS?

    • @Wawikirsinger
      @Wawikirsinger 8 лет назад

      I forget... My PSU is a 1000 but i use like 430