PLAYdifferently Model 1.4 Analogue DJ Mixer Review - Ultimate 4-Channel Mixer?
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2021
- The PLAYdifferently Model 1.4 is a no-compromise, singular mixer designed for a very specific type of DJ. Is that type of DJ you? In this PLAYdifferently Model 1.4 review, we take a look at the mixer, a tour of its features, and help you figure out if it is the right DJ mixer for your DJing.
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More of an instrument than a mixer. Love it
Definitely a lot of fun :)
Assuming it works the same way then the model 1, with six channels, I do Have somethings I think it is worth adding up:
- D subs in and outs is not the only way you can go digital, but I believe is more practical than plug lots of cables on all in and outs
- when using dsub cables the cue b can be used as a third Send, just like the ones on the top. Have turn on the cue B button and the volume of the cue becomes the level of the send signal
- you can rout the send signals to any channel, not just to the two returns on the top left, it depends how you do the digital routimg or plug the cables, so the return can have the model 1 eq system if it is plugged to 1 to 4 (or 1 to six) channels
- if you wish, you can also use both dsub and p10 sends at the same time, so it becomes 4 sends. You just have to route it back to different channels so you can have different effects or devices once you open the send signal on the top.
- cue function on the return channels on the top left also works as the cue B send once it is on
- you can also use the master filter on return 1 and 2 channels, it has a turn on/off button on the bottom of this channels
- return 1 and 2, don't have a eq system but it has a low frequencies cut button so you can cut off from effects or any sound the low frequency is not welcome
- I love to play any style of music in it, not just techno (although it is my choice as a DJ) . It makes way more sense if you like to use loops and layers of sounds (like the way hawtin, Liebing, dubfire and others plays), but I do like to use it's EQ system mixing other style of music
Feel free to contact me here or on Instagram (@adrianonadalin) with you have any questions or doubts
Best!
Thanks for sharing some more info Adriano
Thank you for this Adriano, I assume you have the model 1? any things you don't like? I'm considering it. What do you think about the nonlinear faders?
thank you, you said something i was thinking about but i wasnt sure, would love to send the external effects to a regular channel so i can eq it
do you know if you can send the effects to a regular channel on a xone 92, xone 96 and or pioneer mixer?
@@tendingtropic7778 hi! Sorry for the delay! (Feel free to find me at Instagram @adrianonadalin)
I love the mixer! About the non linear faders, I don't feel it has any negative impact, it is just a matter of getting used to it!
The negative thing might be it not having a internal sound card, but it all depends on your purpose. As the father Andy Rigby Jones says :
MODEL 1 is a DJ production/Live remix tool, a fairly niche market, so I don’t think it’s ever going to appeal to everyone. It’s also prohibitively expensive for many DJs.
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great stuff
Hi Phil can you help me with connection I bought Mackie profx10v3, I want connect my pioneer ddj 1000 to Mackie and from Mackie to amplifier l don't know which channel on the Mackie to connect my amplifier ?
I only need three channels, but they need to be matrix-able from a larger number of rear outputs, and also I want rotary knobs. I have already done a pic of this.
I really love how compact the mixer is. I think this will be my new sub mixer
Thanks for sharing Strackete.
What's a sub mixer
@@qwertySnowy It's a second mixer in my setup, which goes into the main mixer.
I mix everything, but lean tech House, techno, edm. For me it's very interesting. Definitely a learning curve, but I still use Traktor and have several add ons for effects and filters so it may work
Definitely worth checking out :)
I think it's a shame you're not demonstarting the sound quality on this filter with some not distorted loop. that is the main attraction in this mixer, the sound is amazing. all the filters and the drive at the gain stage are beautiful.
Love your channel!
Good point!
I'm going to try this with an H9 for effects! I'm excited to experiement.
Have fun!
Where can I buy this at. I’m in NYC
very good timing. I'm hoping mine will arrive next week. I'm not a DJ though, which is why this unit is very interesting to me. I always wondered why there weren't more mixers with an instrument attitude, that support performing live on drum machines and such. Guess here it is. Price tag is still substantial, but less than the Model 1 so I'm gonna give it a try.
Have fun with it! Let us know what you think when you get hands on
@@digitaldjtips it took longer than expected but it's been at my desk for a week now. first thing: it's got a sound and I really like that. sending a channel to the master filter and maxing the resonance with LP and HP in their neutral positions boosts your lame bass frequencies very nicely. the limitation in channels (I was using a ZED14 before) made me change my production process. at first I thought that could be the show stopper for me, but it turns out I found my workarounds. so now the Model 1.4 is used in the studio and when playing live with a friend. to conclude: it really is an instrument, EQs and filters are terribly useful and I just love the unit. Oh and coming from a bigger mixer, the dimensions are certainly a big plus for me. Now my Octatrack, Rytm, two FX units, the mixer and alle cables easily fit a 0.5 sqm desk.
5:15 Can you pair this up with a Denon X1850 for its fx? I suppose the only challenge would be which one would be the master? Probably the model one as the sound quality is more superior.
You could, technically. You’d route one of the two sends to the x1850 (any channel), apply effects, and then use the booth out on the x1850 to return the processed audio back to the Model1. You could return the booth to a discrete channel or to the return 1, 2 on Model1.
And yes… not probably. Way superior sound from model-.
Thx. Whats that nice tune you use first?
The intro track of the first track Phil plays?
one question was the model 1 a hit I used the 900 nxs2 awesome then the Xone 96 more awesome I done
Depends entirely on how you define "hit" I suppose?
@@digitaldjtips club standard house sales
I have one question: with my future setup Model 1 mixer, 2x tractor D2, 1 Allen&Heath K2, ableton live and tractor 3 pro. Speakers active Kef LS 50 W, Kef 92 sub. pc Windows 10. Not going to produce music and the gear never leaves my house. Do i need a soundcard? Just an enthusiast that has got a lot of sparetimes these days! I`m waiting for my mixer, but everything else is in the house. If yes, please explain? I`m in the same age like you Phil, but still loving the Techno and House genre! Keep up the good work!!
@@isaacbjorn HI Isaac Bjørn! To be honest i`m getting confused. Some say that i can connect the pc directly to the mixer, Allen&Heat has built in soundcard so no problem with this. Comming from Pioneer and now recently the Denon sc 5000 m x1800, this will be a totally new thing.
@@isaacbjorn I`m not going to be stuck with one gear rest of my life, boring Pioneer stuff which everyone uses with the same sound and effeckts, no thanks! I still want to develope and i have all the time in the world to learn more.
Your gear selection is luxurious and weird at the same time, very interesting. I am not really sure why you would go with wireless monitors for DJing. If there is any latency it will kill your flow. Also the Model1 is all analogue and so is the movement of the speakers, so why have another AD/DA conversion between the mixer and the monitors? Just wire up some good monitors with XLR inputs to the Main Outs of the Model1 (also XLR) and you are golden.
As I said, the Model1 is all analogue so if you are playing digital music files in Traktor, you definitely need an interface that has at least as many analogue stereo outputs as the amount of channels you want to use. That is why I would strongly advice against the "NI Traktor Audio 6" as it has only two ore three (not sure) stereo outputs. The "NI Komplete Audio 6" has four stereo outputs but if you use four channels in Traktor already there is no channel left for Ableton Live. Looking at your setup I guess that money is not the issue here so I would get a premium interface with DB25 connectors, at least two out and one in. This will enable you to route eight stereo signals from your PC to the Model1 (ch1 to 6 and the two returns) and four channels (Master signal, the two sends and the headphone jack B) back into the PC and all that with only three cables. You also get fully balanced signals, less latency, and studio sound quality. There are not many brands using DB25 connections but there is a decent selection, including Antelope, RME, Motu, Tascam and Presonus. The cheapest interface I could find is the Tascam ML-16D and as you see it is still very expensive. I advice you to check out which of these work well with Traktor, Ableton Live and - if you insist on using your wireless speakers - whatever software you need to get the signal to the speakers.
@@isaacbjorn hahaha, what a story, I love it! 🤣 I hope that guy is ok now.
I explicitly did not recommend the Orion because I read that some users complained about the software but I did not know it was that bad.
@@isaacbjorn Good call, happy days to you too!
digital tips is the model 1 and model 1.4 comes in same box and package thank u
No idea, sorry.
@@digitaldjtips perfect answer
Waiting for the Model 1.2 .. :D This thing is super expensive, costs the double of a Xone:92, and even more than a Xone:96.... But I would like to give it a try. Not the right time to spend GPB 1,600.00 on a mixer though.
No probably not :)
@@digitaldjtips Interestingly, there is a Model 1.2 : Hawtin posted it a while ago on Facebook . So, even if it's just a prototype, the product is there, and they recognize the necessity of an entry level product: facebook.com/richiehawtin/photos/this-photo-pretty-much-sums-up-my-life-music-sake-technology-and-connects-my-pas/10163831569920074/
@@alfgui Cheaper than a DJM V10.. which has took the market by storm, for its price tag at least.
It's a beautiful thing. However....... are lessons included?? 🤔🙄😳 maybe this can be routed through a standard mixer that will give you those functions in addition......?
Yeah it definitely takes a bit of time to get up to speed with it :)
Nice mixer though not the kind of mixer i would use but the build quality is great.
Nice one :)
Kind of disapointed that this is (sort of) their answer to the V10. It's like they just made something to offer a less expensive option that the Pioneer.
I get the point that this is more for a live(ish) setup but the V10 is way more complete for that, sure it's more expensive, but if price is what make people choose this mixer over a V10, then they should consider looking into the live console market. In that price range, you can easily find some analog console with way more option for live/mix, or even some great digital one like Allen & Health SQ5.
They position themself as something more "live" oriented but they give less option than what it's already there
YOu do know that the Model 1 came out before the V10, right? If anything, the V10 was Pioneer's answer to the Model 1 & Xone:96, not the other way around.
@@risquedj I know, and that's exactly my point. This mixer (the Model 1.4) could have been an answer to the V10, but they choose to do just a lighter Model 1.
It's a competition, brand "answer" to each others with new product. With this, it's just like they offer something as expensive as the DJM-900NXS2 but with less option, which is disapointing especially when they position themselves as a more "live oriented" mixer.
For a live setup, I would choose more something like a live console (like the SQ5 from A&H, wasn't talking about the X-One96 btw) which offer way more option for that price range (the A&H is even cheaper I think). Or (if I want to stay with something more DJ friendly with 4 channel) I would go with a Pioneer or a Denon mixer in that price range, with way more option.
I own both and I can say- the only “negatives” to the Model1 are lack of onboard fx and lack of audio interface… but I have outboard effects and external audio interfaces… so it is different, but not “bad” or “worse” or inferior. I love both for different reasons. The only drawback, IMho, if you want to use it like a v-10/ dJ mixer - you need to drop at least another 1k into effects and IO. Scarlett 18i20, Strymon & a delay box = this Model1 ROCKS.
"The Model 1.4 is a mixer for a certain type of DJ. Is that DJ you?" Hell yeah.
:)
No isolater 🤔
It looks like some thing you'd find in, Cash Converters
@They Caged Non I've bought many a thing from cash converters
@They Caged Non I'm referring to it's look. Not what it can do
Wouldn't mind seeing one of these in my local cashies - got my KRK's from there for a crazy price! - Scott
Haha... there won’t be enough of these sold then burgled from someone’s yard for you to find it in Cashies...
That was a bit of a mind bend
Different isn't it? :)
Doesn't seem very useful other than "hey we made something new to waste your money on.
But hey, I don't know anything either
Well if you're a DJ that needs a mixer it's pretty useful... lol
That shit doesn't cost a dollar.
Not sure what you mean Paul
Not my cup a tea
Fair enough, it isn’t for everyone
I most def would never buy one of these...
so.
@@severetiredamage6754 chuckle!
They're certainly more of a niche product
okay why? xD
Great video, rubbish mixer. Seems to be aimed at techno DJs, which is fine, but no wonder that a piece of gear has been created with the soul purpose of pulling intracacies from a genre which is generally pretty boring and monotonous.
So... not a Techno fan then Tom? 😆
It is a pure analog unit which use useful for anyone combining outboard sources into a sound sculpting unit that resembles a dJ mixer, but it is not for everyone.
Do you need sound card for this mixer?
If you want to use it with a computer, yes