The Pizza Show: From Deep Dish to Thin Crust
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- From deep dish to tavern style thin, there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to Chicago pizza. Frank is here to show us the ins and outs of Chicago pizza and introduce us to the people who help make it what it is today.
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rose insisting frank taking an entire gallon of her wine is major grandma vibes
Makes me miss my bubbie :(
Such a lovely ladie, I'll go to her restaurant for sure when I go to chicago. Hopefully very soon.
On point
Major Grandma vibes, and also major Chicago vibes.
I have to visit Rose if I ever go to Chicago. I just want to give her a hug and tell her she's amazing.
Rose brought out extra plates, probably for the filming crew. What a sweetie.
Good eye.
What if it was for herself?
Fuck that Wht that wine taste like
We don't deserve rose
Midwest people at their finest
Frank is the perfect host for essentially everything, he is engaging, understanding and open-minded, which is what we as an audience want to see in a traveling and trying different things type of show
i feel like he should do a travel show lmao. he always has own stories or anecdotes during the show which i love
He s a great guy , but not that great of a pizza maker tbh
Understanding and open-minded, so you'd never think that he has italian blood.
@@pandawan4522
Holy shit this is an incredibly moronic comment. Frank literally runs and owns a renowned pizza shop in brooklyn, which is no easy feat.
@@BeardedDanishViking hahaha so funny and true!!! Think that comment went over most people's head!
Whenever I feel down or had a bad day. I just watch this series and everything is alright again.
I do the exact same...
I thought it was just me !
Same. Anything with Frank or Mark Iacano.
Munchies, listen up, you better commission the rest of your new series with this guy as the host. He is amazing
That guy who made videos in Seattle should be involved more too.
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@Chuckie Norris couldn't agree more
chuckie norris YEP
anyone else get super pissed off when they saw old Tim Samuelson rub his grubby finger along that slice of pizza. Man why did you have to point at it so damn close? The horror starts @1:37.
Frank is very respectful. We fucks with you Frank.
He really is, doesn't have to make contrarian statements like some of these food show clowns. Even when the guy said "is it too much to ask a New Yorker to eat with a fork and knife" he was cool about it.
Totally agree. I'm from Chicago so I know how hard it is to ignore my bias for Chicago pizza and this guy is the most diplomatic New Yorker I have ever seen analyze Chicago style pizza.
very good presenter
+David Ugarte agreed. I thoroughly appreciate his diplomacy here.
+throwindembows He's "old country"...well mannered, appreciative, and best of all doesn't force humor or speak over the people who he interviews *cough* Eddie Huang *cough*
"i took her to the playboy club" what a slayer
Rip burt, a man that didn't sit down for 20 years and is truly a legend.
He did it his way and didn't give any fuqs if you didn't like it.
You notice that the host been raised properly. Respectful, outgoing and professional. Good qualities to have in life.
Kiss butt much?
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at least hes not scott weiner
His mama raised a good son. I love him!
Frank is proof that interviews on a craft should be done by those who truly love the craft. It brings out the best interviews by far.
You've got to have someone who knows what they're talking about, so you see a real and interesting conversation.
the place is a drug front... who wouldn't accept debt or credit cards a few miles outside of chicago? LOLZ....
@@nadrud someone who refuses to allow banks to steal their profits
It's not easy to find someone passionate about the topic, well mannered, and charismatic all at the same time
Truly the best show munchies ever produced.
No one:
Guy from New York: I'M FROM NEW YORK
Rip burt, a man that didn't sit down for 20 years and is truly a legend.
He did it his way and didn't give any fuqs if you didn't like it.
@H S wym? LoL 😂
@@jennymok6729 someone died?
You already know we take pride in our city 🌃 ❤️❤️❤️💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
FUCK YES IT'S BACK BITCHES.... time to eat my digestive biscuits while watching this..... fuck my life
it helps with the constipation
Hdyt AMEN
cos they're good
Scotch pancakes for me mate
they're a british biscuit
Everybody is complaining about people using their bare hands when making a pizza. This stuff gets baked in a hot oven for 20+ minutes. Any "bacteria" on their hands is going to get killed before it gets on anyone's plate. Great episode, I love Chicago and I love pizza.
To add to your comment there was a study done not too long ago that actually confirmed that people are much better at regularly washing and sanitizing when not using gloves. When people use gloves they get lazy and never change them and regularly cross-contaminate. With bare hands it is much easier to feel when your hands are dirty and know that you need to wash your hands.
I'm often for progress, plastic gloves aren't that, though, imo.
idk how long do chicago pizzas get baked for, but normal ones get baked for 2 to 5 minutes.. I doubt they actually getb aked in 20+ minutes
@ Daniel s tavern style pies definitely get baked for 20 minutes. And deep dish for about 30. That long baking time is what makes them crunchy unlike NY or New Haven. I know because I work at a Chicago pizzeria.
@@DanielS-zq2rr "2 to 5" 🤦
Love this piece! The host is respectful, soft spoken and in touch with reality. He's not some loud mouth try hard comedian that you always find on food shows. And you really can tell it's not "script heavy" it's all heart! Thank you!
Give this host a raise, he’s legit one of the base. Completely educated and genuine. Hope to see him more often.
"You cant be in the back without an apron and hat!" - proceeds to make a pizza without an apron and hat. Old lady be stuntin .
Old ladies like to get grabby to, just cause they're old, don't mean they won't put hands all over you any chance they get.
Alex Pollack was just being motherly.
4:53
And this is why nobody likes new yorkers :)
Alex Pollack I
That broad is a leader.
RIP Burt Katz who died May 1st. I had the honor to meet him and eat his pizza. He isn't putting on an act in this video. That's the real Burt.
+olskoolnewpaint nice ass
Guy who didn't even respect his own business. Just in it for the shekels, and insulting the people who invented pizza in the first place.
he seems to be a great and inspirational guy. sad to know he's gone.
No person that old puts up an act, they don't give enough fucks about what people think. He seemed like a fun guy.
jr132 RIP
when he started dancing with the instructor, i lost it. such an impressive show. excellent work!
randy's world
Agreed!
How humble, takes a REAL man to take dance with another man and even more so on camera!
Frank kind of reminds me Anthony Bourdain, their passion for food, and the overall message that the good food, the smell, the taste, it's something we all share and appreciate.
Other than F*ck that's delicious, this is my favourite show on Munchies, love seeing it in the sub box.
You don't like Matty
Damn! How could I forget? Matty Matheson, the cheeseburger video is a favourite!
I've been putting Cheeotes/Hot Cheetoes on my mac n cheese after watching that Matty Mac n Cheese video. FUCKIN LOVE MATTY!!!
matty matheson too
*edit I just saw what said afterwards, lol sry
David Ugarte try regular captain crunch. You won't be disappointed mein freund
Eating pizza while watching this show is one of my late night pleasures.
U might be pretty fat then
😄👏🍕🇮🇹👋
Even in South Korea, there are a lot of "Karen" complaining that Pizzaiolo makes pizza with their bare hands at restaurants.
We call these garbage people "Momchung". (Mom=Mother, Chung=Insect=Garbage, AKA “Mum-Roach.”)
Karen always complains that there is dust in the corner of the restaurant, that there is dust on the salt bottle on the table, and that the entrance is slippery on a rainy day etc.
However, when they go to an expensive Nobu Japanese restaurant, they have no complaints if they eat sushi made by the Japanese "chef" with their bare hands.
Karen's duality and contradictions are endless.
Btw, Chicago Pizza is really good and I love it.
Please make more pizza episodes with Frank.
Frank, sei numero UNO.
Joe is one of my dads childhood friends. They both moved to America from Italy at 13 and lived in Cicero right down the street from each other. Every time we visit Cicero joe treats us to whatever we want and truly makes the best, home made food in the area. Freddy's is truly a staple of chicago
I really like this host Frank...he seems to be a really humble guy and is respectful to all these different cultures/people...great series!
I just stumbled on this video and I have to say I didn't expect myself to sit through the whole thing. This was just very well done. I don't care about pizza enough to watch a nearly 30 minute documentary. But the music used to the editing to the host's natural charisma, I found myself intrigued by every little detail that was presented. This is just great entertainment. Thank you for your quality work.
Same. I don't know how I ended up here as I don't care about pizza either but found myself sitting through the entire thing.
-never heard of Vice
"Chicago was a city where everyone came from somewhere else"
Well, that's actually the case of your whole countru my G.
Yeah but cities like that are where people from other states come
Well if ya go far enough back everyone is from somewhere else, unless you’re in Sub-Saharan Africa.
Each city/region/state of the USA has always the same history that they present as something "cool": You know, our city LA/NYC/Houston/Chicago/Miami, is basically a melting pot...
@@Bergen98 Yeah it's pretty awesome
I live in the UK, but he's right about Chicago having an energy. It holds a special place in my heart, I'll never forget my trip there. Its infectious.
Hello from Chicago 👋
Awww man, Burt died? That's awful. RIP Burt! Save a slice for me on the other side! :)
A little slice of heaven? :-)
After this I'm going to miss him too!
We are all gonna die.
I lived in Chicago for two years and I gained 20 pounds at first because of deep-dish pizza.
It really is super easy to get fat in Chicago. Large portions of greasy unhealthy foods. No one will understand until they've spend serious time here.
Well you dont spend like every day there its like a special occasion restaurant like fine dining with the fam
Yes. Considerably higher. You can get a whole pizza for around 10 bucks in NYC, but a large deep dish starts at 15 for a small and gets up to 20+ for a large.
R
20 pounds of experience.
Frank is such a great personality to host this show. He is humble and kind to the pizza artisans and always props them up with great respect!
Loved that they mentioned tavern style thin crust Chicagos true pizza
"only rookies put holes in it" ...lmao low-key firing shots at the way Giordano's makes their deep dish.
That guy was really abrasive. He came out aggressive the entire time.
@@XiloChannel not really
@@XiloChannel Chicago natives are ball busters, trust me it's just the way we are lol
@@XiloChannel Nah, Marc was only doing that for the cameras and because the guy was from New York. It's an old school Chicago - New York thing. If you aren't from either place, you need not understand. But it's like two brothers fighting. We love each other but we will fight and fuck off to every other town.
Nobody knows fam. And what sucks more?? People dont really travel to IL anymore
18:21 wife looks like Michael Cera from Superbad.
Great...now that can't be unseen
Dude I thought I was the only one to see that! haha
ahahahahahahahaha!!!
omg I can't breathe too much hahahaaha
the dance instructor looks like Arthur Spooner ( jerry stiller)
Rare to come across a sweet, interested and humble presenter. He listens carefully and pays all due respect to his interviewees. What a lovely man.
12:38 dude is reading my mind, I wanted to give her a hug 🥺🥺💞
I ate a hot pocket after this. Close enough
Cloud 8
You 1st. Txt me b4 u doo
. I walk u thru it
olskoolnewpaint nah im good mate
I am going to jerk off and cry right now.
halolover930 was it pizza flavored?😂
olskoolnewpaint u bloody fairies go kiss on top of a tree
Damn, I feel like I am missing out in life. The only place where I have eaten pizza is at Dominos and Pizza Hut.
Roh G like... ever?
Wise Guy I am from Singapore. Over here the main eateries for pizza is either Pizza Hut or Dominos. I have tried pizzas at other small cafes here though but I have yet to try a really good and authentic pizza. This video is making me hungry :(
:(
you gotta go to new york and eat it for every meal. I'm serious.
mysticfedora You are right, I must make a trip to NY at least once. The pizzas here suck
Roh G you could always make one yourself at home, that shit is bomb as fuck.
Tavern style crispy pizza is truly the soul of Chicago pizza. I like a deep dish outing every now and then too.
The host is amazing. He have knowledge yet still sounds so humble and down to earth. Not like that pretintious prick from meat show hahahaha cough solares dude cough
If and when I make it big, I'm going to go on a "Munchies world tour" - where I'll pick a bunch of restaurants featured on this channel and base my world tour around visiting them.
olskoolnewpaint
Actually I've been running my own business for around 2 years now and I've just hired my first part time employee earlier this year so sorry (not sorry) bud.
Smoke
Lol right on. I was just being a dick. Good luck with your business
lel i already did dat, and on porpouse
You should take the "if" out of that sentence. All positivity. All love.
This whole thread is a roller coaster
The show host looks so nice and chill.
He smoked a fat doobie before the show
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Such a polite, friendly and passionate man. A real delight to watch !
The people you meet are salt of the earth.
In a world of hype and fake ... this world is so real.
I’ve grown up and lived in Cicero my whole life, and to see Freddie’s getting the recognition it deserves makes me so happy. I have so many good memories walking to Freddie’s to get Italian ice and pizza almost every week. And Lou Malnati’s is truly my favorite deep dish, Giordano’s second and Paisano’s 3rd 🤤
Freddie's gnocchi and chicken parmesan 🤤
Frank is the man! Makes pizza for a living, but he is still humble and respectful!
I want to see him in Naples or Palermo!
falco's pizza is better
+Eli's Vlogz fuck no
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I prefer sfincione too xD
Nope. I've had pizza throughout Italy. It's like southwestern pizza on extra sodium because of the culture of salted meat. Plus, most places seem to have never heard of pepperoni! Best pizza in the states is in Buffalo NY. It's in between Chicago and NYC so you get a medium crust. Go figure! Those folks know how to make a great pizza to compliment their wings. If anyone's in that area I recommend Picasso's for pizza and La Novas for their wings (and pizza). Pudgies is another in that area that has the right ingredients too, their sheet pizza is best. A bit on the saucy side though.
Frank just oozes charisma, there’s no way you don’t love the guy
I'm in Chicago once a month for work and everytime I've been there in the last 3 years I make sure to hit up Pequod's. The place is so small, but so comforting.
Great now I gotta prepare a large batch of pizza dough and won´t be eating nothing but pizza for awhile
praise the sun to that
+BlueHokage \[+]/
What a charming young man
thanks grandma
I love pizza and I’ve watched many specials on it. This is the most enjoyable video about pizza I’ve ever seen. Protect Pizza Frank at all costs!
I've lived in chicago my whole life and bro deep dish is my life
You make me proud
@#TEAM TRUMP Ugh just like Dolinsky said - tourists come and stay in a 6 block radius like you did. You didn't see anything yet. Just think about that for a second. You are missing so much of this amazing city (especially food) and you have no idea. Well a little - because you saw this video. I'm so lucky to have been born and raised in the Chicago area. But make no mistake - thin pizza is our real pizza. And I say this LOVING deep dish. Naruto Uzumaki lived here his whole life. What's that 20 years? He's a kid. He has no idea of what the old timers were like. Or even how to say Chicago properly like the guy at the beginning does. It's sad to see the old ways and people go. And remember - deep dish is not the same as stuffed pizza. Giordano's is overrated crap stuffed pizza.
Last year and this year my kids bought me six Giordannos pizzas which are in the freezer. I've loved Chicago Deep Dish since my days at the Moody Bible Institute in the city.
deep dish is for tourists.
Everyone knows that real chicago pizza is thin and cut into squares 🤣
As a lifelong Chicagoan whose mother grew up in New York City, I found Frank's perspective to be really interesting.
IMO, Freddy's is numero uno.
I was there this past weekend and you are so right. Such a selection in a small place
RIP Burt. I miss ya!
2:51 "This pizza couldn't have been invented in california" TRUE
nothing is invented in california
@@nadrud Except few things you probably use daily like blue jeans, everything Apple related, wd 40, and things may not use too often like lasers, vhs recorder, wetsuits, squeegees, popsicles, skateboards, and more important inventions like automatic gear shift, landing system for aircraft, radar system for locating planes, etc. You realize Silicon Valley is located in California, right?
@brokenupbeat fuck california
@@Vassenato They don't wanna see us, Whole Junior mafia clique - In your case spinning pens - dressing up tryna be us. Don't come at a state you've never been to.
@@jeyzeus who uses wd40 everyday lol
Loved the part where the couple took dancing lessons 3xs a week. Man I love these videos
I don't understand the need to compare NY pizza to CHI. It's like asking which is better, a sedan or a truck? Depends on what you're trying to do. People always have to make things a competition.
>It's like asking which is better, a sedan or a truck?
Exactly. One is a pizza, the other is a tomato sauce hot tub for rats.
Which is better, a pizza or not a pizza?
i just had a detroit and it blew me away...closer to chicago
@@stereotreme HAHAHAHAHAH. So you're not from Chicago huh?😂😂😂
@Roy Black If by "pizza", you mean a greasy cracker covered in cheese and ketchup, then yes, it's not pizza. LOL I'm just kidding, I love both varieties.
Anyone else got hungry after watching this.
dread knot i got hungry while watching it hahaha 😂
I hade to get up and go make a pizza after
dread knot I'm watching it because I'm hungry and all I have right now are some chips and cookies cuz I'm on vacation and it's night lol
@D4RKplayz I lost my appetite
this is some of the best journalism I've seen in a while, not just food - amazing film!
All the people being interviewed in this were all nice, down to earth and seemed happy to be there. Proud of what they do but still humble. Very good video!
This is a great video. I live in Chicago, and I am so sick of the deep dish idiocy. I only eat deep dish pizza when some random person is visiting. Otherwise. I eat the thin crust, square-cut pizza shown in this video (I live on the South Side).
It is refreshing to see a video on the pizza that Chicago residents actually eat.
olskoolnewpaint Thank you for the intelligent, constructive comment
They should of included falcos pizza on archer and california too
Garry Perkins South Side Shameless
You know, people eat both kinds in Chicago, thin and thick. Giordano's is Illinois's largest pizza chain(thick crust) and Home Run Inn is Illinois's largest frozen pizza company (thin, but not NY style)
David Oebius south side forever
I now realize, as a Northern Californian, how badly I need to visit Chicago for some real pizza.
Daniel Phillips Im from Hayward,CA you ever tried Patxi's Pizza its in Dublin their deep dish is good but not that good still worth a try or if you want amazing tasting pizza at a value try Bronco billys in Hayward only $6 a slice and its the size of a medium pizza.
Make your own from a Utube video instructor!
White Chocolate Just get tacos lol.
Manny Tello patxis is alright, Zachary’s Chicago pizza is where it’s at.
R L You gotta try Zachary’s pizza in Berkeley and Oakland. Or pleasant hill. It’s the best
Love the series. To everyone involved, thank you. It's positive and charming in a world where that is increasingly rare.
I love the personal stories here and in all of the episodes of the Pizza Show I've watched. It's wonderful to see the people behind the pizza. Wonderful stories. Thank you.
"you have to have an apron on"
Proceeds to make a pizza without an apron on
pizza is life baby
This dude is one of the coolest on youtube
Wow man. RIP Mr Katz. What a legend
the worst thing is that im eating an apple while waching this.
Hamed Alothmani i'm drinking soy milk🤣
Apple's good 4 u.
Aaah no . I'm fasting and watching this. Its like torture
Just ranked 76 pizzerias over a summer... aka alcoholic pizza binge
alcohol and pizza go hand in hand
i love franks energy.... he also seems to look at pizza objectively and appreciates it for what it is.... much love frankie
I've lived in Chicago most of my life, nobody from here that I associate with orders deep dish. Deep dish is what you get when friends from out of town visit.
Then you must live in an area that doesn't have great deep dish. I'm born and raised here my entire life and I eat deep dish often. YES - thin crust cut in squares is our main pizza and is what we get the most. On that we agree. But if I had to have one last pizza - it's going to be a Lou Malnati's deep dish with buttercrust.
Your loss.
Lou Malnati confirmed.
confirmed what?
JRfoodie lovefun it's supposed to be a joke on the Illuminati confirmed
JRfoodie lovefun r/wooosh
@@relaxhappysadboy8275 r/whoooosh
I love this Pizza dude, very humble, and entertaining.
Why did you do that munchies, I still wish for more of frank. It's just sad you know.
Frank is the man , no doubt.
What happened to Frank??
@@johnnyrico707 Hasn’t gotten a new show with Munchies, but granted it’d be pretty hard to make another series with him. He knows his shit with pizza but he’d be out of his league with tacos.
I love this show, it goes beyond pizza and in to the lives of the people past and present who have brought so much happiness to others through the power of food
It's fortunate living in this beautiful city. We really have so many amazing pizza options.
Omfg the second location is two miles from my house and down the street from my fathers store holy shit
NICE
thomas herrera GO
ur lucky, please realize that
did you eat there yet?
thomas herrera my aunt lives really close too
I wish there new episodes I’ve seen the series so many times I really hope I get to meet him someday he doesn’t just show us food he shows us the culture,history and most importantly the family behind a food that so simple in Ingredients but yet so complex in its impact one not only the people but the community awesome series 🙌🏽
That thumbnail had me thinking Binging with Babish was in this vid
Same here! Great call.
Frank and Babish definitely have one thing in common, naturally apart from their passion for food. They're both incredible human beings that noone in the right mind could hate
The best show on munchies by far
Papa Francisco? Is he mad? Thats John Paul II
Who gives a shit?
Tottenham are shit
+. nice one mate. spurs are shit.
The spurs are shite!
Bottlers. It's happened again.
As a New Yorker who's never been to Chicago, I'm partial to our pizza, and the deep dish we're served here doesn't cut it - as far as I know, ours is the best. That said, I'm intrigued and interested in checking out the real deep dish and the thin crust in Chicago. There's a lot of love in what they do in Chicago, and I'd love to sample it... and I've heard good things about Detroit too. I'll have to sample the midwest's best at some point, because it looks a lot different than Italian and NY pizza... and it's nice to see variety and creativity.
Just like the "New York style" pizza places that opened in Chicago didn't quite cut it. Or the Philly cheesesteaks all over the country that are not the same as in Philly. For some reason, when people take something from one city to another city, it's just never the same so you don't get the full experience.
Love watching these. It’s all about family.
LA next i hope and a visit to Pizzanista.
RIP to Burt Katz who died May 1st 2016.
That is pretty good LA pizza man haha, haven't gone in a while, might go soon now lol
We have a pizzanista in Long Beach, Ca, and, it's ok. The sauce is lacking flavor in my opinion. I've heard the LA location is better. The staff is awesome, the location is terrific, but, lacking in flavor. I continue to go back once in awhile just to make sure it's not me. I love pizza.
If you're on the west side, try Lamonicas Pizza
XTheSonofTheSunX bro I fucking got you haha, I'll check it soon. You ever been to Eggslut? Lmao
Christian Esqueda ni, i havent, but, I'm up in venice often, i may take my wife there, thanx for the lead.
cheers
Christian Esqueda
That's the first thing i'll eat when i go to LA.
is it just me or do all these old italian owners look the same
it's you
No, chill fam , You are just prolly Very superficial and a lil bit dense
no i mean like the generic portraits they all seem to have in their kitchens all look like the same guy
it is the same guy
There actually all the Same guy
Vito and Nicks, and Freddie’s... Two of my favorite pizza places in Chicago.
Al Capone Pizza, ruclips.net/video/JGwR9qey4NE/видео.html
FRANK IS SUCH A GOOD FUCKING HOST GODDAMN. best show on the channel rn
This show was fantastic! Hearing the stories from the owners, seeing the kitchens work, and Frank made an awesome show host. Loved it, Munchies. Loved. It.
Frank is a great host. You gotta love the people of Chicago and surrounding neighborhoods. Some of the friendliest characters you’ll ever meet!
Frank is such a charismatic person, effortlessly commanding respect allowing him to connect with his guests on a personal level. He truly understands the right way to treat people. Well done.
Fantastic host
i mean... he gotta talk about pizzas, not about climate change.
It is lovely how something as delicious as food can tell a story about a city and its citizens.
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Glad you showed Chicago bar room that what I grew up on. Love the squares.
Wow that was a real tear jerker was just listening to Burt Katz talking about life and perspective, and baaam at the end you realize he passed away already
I really like The Pizza Show. Are there going to be more episodes? Been checking back every couple weeks.
they are going to north korea next.
You are so edgy with your comments
There are two new episodes online.
Joshua Bailey
Can you scratch it for me ? It's really itchy :(
olskoolnewpaint your not funny your sick
I love deep dish, but I'm living in London right now and literally nowhere sells deep dish, NOWHERE.
You get great and proper wood fire oven pizza here. None of this stuff.
Italian pizza is better than the US stuff.
I happen to like both, there's lots of great American pizza, maybe you just haven't tried it
open one in london then!
+Candide V congratulations on having an opinion
I actually do make my own!!!
Freddy's pizza is great and the other food there is even better. Joe is around all the time and is as friendly and down to earth as he is the video.
So true. I've lived in the neighborhood all my life and I seldomly get the pizza. The gnocchi there is my go to.
I live half a mile from Freddys but never been. Gotta try it sometime!
Frank is a brilliant host. respectful, passionate and always up for anything