And Moff Gideon didn’t make it to trial - - so it’s even more pointless.. in fact Luke asking *A Child* to make a decision for the rest of his life - is TLJ levels of character assassination.
Din Djarin: *removes helmet* The Armorer: "You are no longer Mandalorian." Bo-Katan: *removes helmet* The Armorer: "You walk both worlds." Double standards in a nutshell.
No, Bo Katan is a STRONG WOMAN. Therefore the rules don't apply to her and she will never lose a fight in the show and IF she does you can bet it will never be a man...
God, Kit is a terrible actor but with that season 8 dialogue, he became the gold standard of shit. Made his acting in that crap heap Pompeii look like Kirk Douglas in Spartacus.
@GinNBoost you mean a mandalorian who loves by the creed swearing allegiance to the highest ranking mandalorian ? Bo katan is both royalty and has the most experience being a leader (regardless of past failure) who else is more suitable?
@@00spinz35 she earned the dark saber for “reasons.” She is not a leader or queen in my mind. She can have her own show if they want to do a redemption arc. For Din to become this lost puppy dog to her is sad and pathetic. It also has Kathleen Kennedy’s stank all over it.
If there is at least one thing that you will know that Lucasfilms (Or Disney as a whole) is consistent on, it’s bait and switching a popular male lead with a superior female counterpart.
I would put that superior between “”. Because the female replacement as basically just Rey Palpatine light, bunch of Mary sues that only character development is humiliating the male lead.
@@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854 Bo-Katan isn't a Mary Sue though. Or at least she wasn't in Clone Wars and Rebels. It'd be nice if they actually brought up her past in this show though because she was a Villain in Clone Wars and they kind of just skipped her redemption arc.
It would have been better for The Mandolorian to have ended at the finale of season 2; the goal is achieved, Grogu is with Luke and will be trained in the force. And it also held the message “What you want, and what’s for the best aren’t always the same thing. Sometimes you have to let go.” Which is a very somber and mature end. I think that’s going to be the conclusion for me, it feels like the natural destination of the story. Everything past that is Disney trying to keep this money boat sailing as is, because change is scary for them, they’d rather repeat the same thing over and over, than risk doing something new.
Let go? Like Yodumb and Obi Wan wanted him to do with his father? It doesn't mesh that he would kowtow to the Jedi's anal moral code that forbids attachments and emotions when it was because of HIS attachments that the Empire was brought to its knees in the OT
@@jeremyallen5974Indeed, this Luke was no different from the old order he was supposed to reform into something less dogmatic and closer to the force.
“What you want, and what’s for the best aren’t always the same thing. Sometimes you have to let go.” That kind of message is so totally opposed to the culture of entitlement and self-indulgence that dominates Hollywood they could never let it stand.
Well I didn't start Season 3 or the Book of Bobba Fett, so that's the ending for me. I've also taken to consider Endgame the end of Marvel for me. I have to give myself closure, because Disney sure as fuck won't.
The whole point of Mando is that he's not supposed to have "so much character," but in S1 they really got a lot of character out of those small moments. That's what made the show cool. He's mysterious, he lands on a planet, and does a thing, then rides off into the sunset. Like a propper Western Movie hero.
Not necessary, he started of as a "Man with no name" but since first episode his growth began, and we started to learn more about him, we saw him evolving, and learn what kind of man he is. Din is my favourite character in Disney SW. And I was hoping that the entire point of S3 will be for him to embrace his role as a leader, and master the Darksabre. I wouldn't mind more attention to other Mandalorians, but the focus should've ramain on him, and he should have character arc set for this season. At first he had to abandon his day-to-day lifestyle in order to protect something innocent, then he was set on journey in which he embraced his role as father figure, where he was constantly challenged on his beliefs. Bo-Katan is a fine character, she is mandalorian too but from completely different background, setting her up for him so they could find a common ground would be a great dynamic, the problem is, that too much focus was put on her, and Din was portrayed as just there. I don't understand why he wasn't allowed to see the Mythosaur, why he wasn't credited for providing land for fellow Mandalorians and why writers gave him that cringe speech about serving Bo-Katan when I never had impression that he was serving anyone. Cooperating? Yes, sure, he helps his friends, because he is loyal and honorable man. I don't see why he would make out of her, someone from a different tribe essentially his boss. There is only one episode left, maybe I am naive in thinking that there will be a massive twist. But I guess I have to find out by myself. But I am frustrated with another bait and switch.
@@archstanton9073 But you're entirely wrong. its entirely based, and they even used some direct referencing shots, on Lone Wolf and Cub. Shit, does nobody who watches this retarded channel know ANYTHING about media??
Honestly the first season of mando was what book of boba fett should have been but even this show they didn't manage to keep on a consistent level of quality.
The Mandalorian season 3 is so obviously a Kathleen Kennedy disaster, it was successful for 2 seasons and she couldn't stay away. Bo Katan should have been her own show.
The Mandalorian was terrible from the start, but appears to have gotten worse (I stopped watching a long time ago). Bo Katan shouldn’t have her own show; she never should have existed. The Mandalorian could have had a reason to exist if the show were millions of times better than it was at its best.
Bo Katan should have been an antagonist in season 3, blinded by her jealousy over Mando getting the Darksaber and forcing Mando to become the new Mandalorian leader by her anger and actions to reclaim it. Showing how someone's single minded, blind determination to lead can cause their downfall while keeping Mando in the lead. A stand alone Bo Katan series could have been all about her seeking redemption and seeking an honorable way to reclaim her rightful position. But what the hell is character building when you can just jump past that like with Marvel going from classic storytelling to jump over that and go to modern trash in one phase!
Daisy Ripley's career is going nowhere. When KK called offering her another lead role she probably jumped at it. It is not like anybody else is knocking at her door with work offers.
@@cptpepper7731 and because of lack of creation you have to strip the main character of a show be robbed of everything? s2 finale is tottally unmade by now, and mando got everything stole from him
@Cpt Pepper No, it didn't. He had the darksaber and was primed to go through the reluctant hero's journey that culminates in becoming Mandalore's new leader. At least, he was before they ruined it...
Season 2 of Mando ended with such an intruiging set up for Season 3 for me. You had the Fundamentalist (Armourer), the Politician (Bo Katan) and the Pragmatist (Fett) all representing the extremes of Mandalorian culture. Then you have Din, who has been exposed to and managed to find merits (and flaws) in all 3 outlooks, plus he's found himself with a claim to be the defacto King of all Mandalorians, a position he doesn't really want. The Grogu/Godeon arc was resolved, season 3 should have been about Din trying to unify the various Mandalorian tribes whilst fending off Imperial Remnants and ever increasing 'interest' from the New Republic, who want to know why Mandalorians are suddenly gathering in ever increasing numbers. . But no, we got season 3.
Imagine if the Original Trilogy were such that Leia wasn't in _A New Hope_ at all, by all accounts doesn't exist. Then she shows up somewhere halfway through _The Empire Strikes Back_ as an absolute boss girl, telling both Luke and Han what's what and even talking some smack to Vader. Finally, in _Return of the Jedi,_ after no shortage of mild deliberation, Yoda, Vader, and the Emperor are just like, "Yeah, sorry Luke. It was Leia from the beginning. Because her middle name is literally Hope." That's how this show feels.
@Gbrow160 why does there need to be an excuse? The show doesn't have to make the story how you want it You ha w to remember salty dr8nker fans aren't the majority when it comes to watching the mandolorian, at best you can speak on behalf on what maybe 40k people?
@@00spinz35 Sure, I guess if the showrunners really wanted to, they could make Mandalorians ride around on unicorns with wings and shoot rainbows. Wouldn't make it GOOD. And a lot of metrics have shown a decrease in positivity for the Mandalorian, from reduced audience score, lower ratings, and just what I've heard from people in real life.
There are few Directors capable of superior Multitasking, and none work at Disney. Seriously - focus on a discipline to continuously improve and look for advancements within it. Too many writer/director attempts within the 'Big Leagues' lately and that was always a hallmark of those poorly made/hard to watch films of the past. You know - those that made me believe money laundering was real. If Ron Howards next film is from Disney, you know he too has been 'swallowed up'.
After Grogu stops a fight: Bo-Katan: You taught him well. Din: I didn't teach him that. The writers really make Din look bad and/or incompetent all the time.
Season 2 set Din up to be the owner of the Darksaber and the heir of the Mandalorian throne. It was highly speculated he would find and tame a Mythosaur, and one day reunite with a trained Grogu… But season three came along and gave all that to Bo, while Din was reduced to a supportive bodyguard/lapdog character in his own series. Hell, Grogu is even seen frequently spending time with Bo rather than Mando. The only thing he really has left is the Beskar on his back… will they take that too in the finale? The Mandalorian Season 3 is actually Bo Katan season 1. Either Jon and Dave lost their mojo, or Kathleen Kennedy forced her way again.
Imagine if we got a grogu and Luke show while Mando story being about him finding mines but before going there he give beskar armor to grogu Because his not sure about him surviving mandalore trip that would been last time we see him being close to him After that they could done battle for throne story line
OR they always agreed with KK, the civil war stuff is utter nonsense and trying to claim its all on KK may get views snd generate content but is utterly disproved by the last 5 years. It's ridiculous to claim anything good was against what KK wanted snd the tripe is when KK insisted. Its asinine. But take this comment with a pinch of salt....
Bo is a dead weight to the whole show. Nobody cares about her. Nobody started to watch the series for her, she wasn´t even in it in S1. She is a terrorist, slaver and schemer against her sister who got her killed and participated on the fall of Mandalore the most. It is painfully obvious where they had to insert her into the script. Like when everyone was like "Why were they waiting through the night to save the boy?" Because KK wanted Booo Mary Sue getting praised by others and having the honor of staying by the fire when they were eating. Or why is she the only one besides Din who has a ship? How did the Mandos get on that planet? Did they took a taxi and killed the driver? It is obvious there was supposed to be a second, larger ship which can contain a group of Mandos. When Din gave the motivation speech to convince the clan to help Karga and move to Nevarro, Paz said Din and Booo wanted to help Karga. But Booo said nothing, it was Din´s speech, because original script was written only for him and Paz for that scene. The investigation of droid attacks should have been done by Cara (because she is a cop) and Din. This proves Booo wasn´t supposed to be in that episode at all and Din was supposed to fight that m0r0n in blue armor. He was also supposed to see the mythosaur in the mines after taking bath. I´m convinced Favreau´s original idea was to let Booo finally die in the bombing of her castle, understanding she is highly unpopular. But Furloni can´t let go of his crappy fanfic character and KK wanted grrrrl power. There were rumours about 2 years ago Pedro will remove his helmet more often in S3. There was an interview where Pedro talked about it. It was on RUclips somewhere. That would make sense if his story from the underdog to the ruler was finished as originally planned. It was all supposed to lead to the clans uniting with one basic creed for all of them. So getting rid of the helmet rule would make sense, and who else would be the one to establish it than Din? He met Mandos from other clan and Boba. They sidelined him and put Booo on his rightful and earned place as someone who "walked both worlds". OMG! Din "walked both worlds" too, and some more. He was the one who accepted Boba as worthy of his armor, not Booo. She has not apologized yet.
I don't recall anyone getting that hyped over Mando even in season 1 or 2. They were just thankful the show wasn't complete trash and all anyone seemed interested in was Grogu. But a cute baby gremlin, nostalgia bating, and not sucking completely can only carry a show so far.
@@chasehedges6775 Oh yeah, I agree. S1 and S2 were decent. I wouldn't say well done, but that is a matter of preference. I was just never blown away, but it was enjoyable enough. I just never got the impression there were legions of fans for Mando/Din the way that Grogu has.
@@seriouslyrelax just stop watching it then. why be mad and continue watching? unless maybe you like it and don't want to admit it? closeted gay man vibes here
Mando was more of a lowkey protaganist. What was interesting about him was the fact that he was an example of what an Mandalorian is like. There is a space in fiction for characters like that, and I think they achieved what they were going for quite well with Mando. They even gave him small bits of individuality by showing him being willing to bend the code for the sake of this small child. But yes, it is the kind of subtle storytelling that was never going to last in a show that has transitioned to being designed by comitee. It wasn't even perfect to begin with, just better than what came after it.
Somehow, still now as bad as KK... wait, is this stuff the product of her trying to micromanage it so she can keep trying to ride on the coattails of more successful people?
"I like making men feel uncomfortable..." - Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy Well, be careful what you wish for Sharmeen, because the large majority of the people you need to watch the movie are men!!
@@joshbaker1581 She's a feminist activist Josh, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that having ideologues like her and Kennedy in charge, the movie will have a definite undertone, and not in a good way
After everything they’ve done to kill the franchise they’re really twisting the knife giving Rey the story we all wanted to see for Luke in the first place. I keep thinking they can’t possibly top themselves but they keep surprising me
Mauler brought up a good point. Not only would I love to see a show about Mando bounty hunting instead of baby sitting, I thought that the Book of Bobba Fett would explore the scoundrel side of SW finally. But apparently at Disney no character can be grey…
The phrase "you can only milk Grogu for so long" conjured up a really terrible mental image in my head. Star Wars and milking are a bad combination since TLJ.
This reminds me of a man desperate to get some girl, any girl’s pants! But he doesn’t know how to talk to women. So he’s like “Look at all the woman power I’m promoting, sleep with me ... some one!?” Which still could be Kathleen Kennedy’s motives??!
KK's motive is spite. She's getting her revenge on what she views as forty years of supplication and submission to men she believed she was always superior to. Her past was a walking personification of - "I was a secret Queen when I was taking orders. Now that I'm in charge we're gonna do things MY WAY! And step one is to break all oaths and promises made which got me here! Step two is to defile all that my predecessors and their fans love!"
@@TheMaleRei That is tthe most probale reason why KK does it this way. It is obviously not the money for her, as she has enough (via husband). It is respect she wants and is delusional enough to think she has all the right to it.
Bo Katan was fine in Clone Wars and Rebels. She had a proportionate amount of screen time compared to Anakin, Obi Wan, Padme, Ezra, Sabine, and a plethora of other characters. But in this season of Mandalorian has been the Bo Katan show, and it was not clear from the beginning that this was the purpose of this show. I don't want Din to have the Dark Sabre. But I expected him to be the main character of his own show.
@@rovhalt6650 Exactly. I'm usually on board with criticisms of the bait and switch bs pulled by these new movies, but in this case it doesn't bother me. Din Djarin's narrative has run its course. Grogu is rescued, there is really nowhere to go with that character.
I think most of us agree. Din Djarin and Grogu's story has run its course. This show should have ended in S2. Give Bokatan her own and go wild with it. But they know it would flop which is why they keep doing the bait and switch for the female led stories. Most of us wanted to see bounty hunting or something in that realm. She will be doing SJW missions once she accomplishes her goal here and the viewership will drop. If they're smart, they'll end it once they take their home planet back, but we know better than that.
@@rovhalt6650 Fucking thank you, I thought there weren't any people here that could think rationally. Whining about the woke boogeyman is getting ridiculous, don't get me wrong its there, I was fuming earlier today when I learned about the Cleopatra "documentary", but its not *everywhere* .
At this point, Kennedy is showing her true abilities, the same abilities that got her that good “reputation” in the industry… Being a Parasite… Had she not married her husband, who got her the connections to Spielberg and Lucas, Kennedy would have stayed a secretary who barely good enough at making coffee. You can see that in Mando season 3, that Feloni is the one in charge now, because of just how awful and cartoony the show has gotten, and he has no problems obeying Kennedy so long as he can keep pushing his fanfic characters like Ashoka and Bo-Katan, and of course Kennedy loves using females to once again steal a male characters accomplishments. Literary Kennedy is the walking Batwoman meme of “The suit it’s literal perfection. It will be, once it suits a woman”. Either way the last hope for Star Wars just went up in flames. The Ashoka movie is not going to fix anything, as it’s just another Feloni Fanfiction with Kennedy as a co-writer. The rest of the movies at this point are just a shotgun to the massacred crotch that used to be Star Wars.
I actually admire you guys for still holding out hope. I knew these new films are trash. Few people remember the hints. Remember when Cara Dune had a fist fight with Din. .. she punched his helmet and did damage while he used a gauntleted fist on her face and they just came out even. Uhuh... a sign.
It's a action/phantasy TV show what has aliens, space wizards and animals living in space. If you want realistic physics and things happening, watch a documentary about fight/sports science.
So why not say that the force is actually a gravy pot in the sky that jedi drink from to gain juice powers? Maybe have some unicorns that fart rainbows powerful enough to explode the death star. Or a bounty hunter that's just a goat! Not like a space goat or anything, just... A goat. You know the answer to all these things. Because they're nonsensical and lack any kind of internal consistency. Even stories about aliens and space wizards need to have internal rules or else why COULDN'T any of the stuff I just mentioned happen plausibly? But you know this, and the 'it's just dumb space wizards for kids' argument is a knowingly daft argument made only because it sounds better than 'the inconsistencies appeal to me and I want them to continue'.
@@ldorman Whenever people use that deflection it immediately let's everyone else know not to take them seriously, because it implies that your standards are so low that you'll clap at anything like a trained seal. No one is saying it has to be 110% pinpoint real world accurate, but some fucking consistency to help the suspension of disbelief wouldn't kill anyone.
What made Zahn's original Thrawn Trilogy books so good was how a villainous Sherlock Holmes like character would do against the heroism of the main cast from the Original Trilogy. I don't think Disney is capable of that now.
Ever since Filoni got placed in charge, The Mandalorian and other Star Wars shows have become vehicles to continue to Clone Wars stories. Asoka shows up in Mando S2 and now has her own show, Bo Katan being the main character on Mando S3, Cad Bane in Boba Fett, etc. It feels like that's all he wants to do now. Just continue what made him successful
I’ve seen professional writers earnestly argue that ‘bait ‘n’ switch’ is necessary because (usually white) male characters are boring… Now what these disingenuous ideologues are conveniently forgetting of course is that fictional characters are only as engaging (or boring) as one _writes_ them to be. Obviously. This isn’t going to get better anytime soon. 😩
@@AbstractM0use that show is why I get annoyed when people say everything Disney SW is shit, it's definitely not the case. As long as a project is small enough and flies under the radar it can be amazing. Sadly for Mando the show got too popular and attracted the gaze of the evil execs
An idea that would work 100%: Daisy Ridley's character Rey is teaching the young jedi and rebuilding the order. Then some shenanigans happen with prequel characters: Darth Jar Jar Binks is the villain of this movie. He has discovered a way into the world between worlds and that is why his character disappeared after the prequels. Anyway Rey is brought up to speed on what is happening by old Mace Windu who was rescued from his fall in Coruscant when Ahsoka Tano pulled him out while she was in the world between worlds. Basically because of the misuse of the world between worlds there is potential for the total destruction of reality. Darth Jar Jar is trying to use it to become the ruler of the galaxy. So Rey and Old Mace Windu team up to track down and defeat Darth Jar Jar. In the end Rey realizes she has to sacrifice herself to fix the timeline and she accepts her fate and the timeline is brought back to the end of episode 6 and Disney can now start over from there. Mesa just saved the Star Wars galaxy, yousa welcome.
Honestly, Dark Lord Jar Jar Binks would make sense as a serious villain anyway. Think about. He helped Palpatine while all along waiting for the Emperor to fail and thus set the stage for his own rise to power.
What would Rey teach them? She never learned anything. She had amazing force abilities all along and had no mentors (save for a wee bit of token tuition by Leia). She's the least qualified Jedi in the whole universe to teach.
I admit that I did not see that bait and switch coming. I am a fool to believe that Mando would be the lead character for Season 3. This cruel tactic worked because it takes in past successes to shove in bad messaging to unsuspecting audiences down their throats. My father made a mistake subscribing to Disney Plus, he didn't listen to me, yet we already have it since March 2023. Guess he doesn't care of the B.S. that's happening.
I kinda saw it coming when I saw the absolute clown show that was book of Boba Fett, but I hoped that it wouldn't be bad, and that blinded me to the reality. The only things at Disney SW that are good are the things that fly under the radar
@@TheMaleRei so…the entirety of Clone Wars is trash? Hate to break it to you, but Filoni’s work with the Clone Wars did massive favours for Revenge of the Sith, making Anakin’s fall that much more meaningful, and Ahsoka Tano’s final Clone Wars arc is a superb piece of filmmaking and storytelling that I honestly rate above Episodes 1 and 2.
That point you made about Filoni at the end is the saddest part of all this. He was supposed to be the one hope we still had to fix this mess once Kathleen Kennedy was finally fired. But now it looks like she's here to stay and has more power than ever and Filoni's project is just as bad as everything else Disney Star Wars has shat out.
Literly every point they made they said Filoni but referenced an episode he isn't credited on. It seems they have more a bone to pick with Jon Favreau but didn't bother checking the weighting and directing credits.
@@verticalfracture Jon Favreau seems like he's just kinda here at the moment and not really doing anything. We already know the man's capable, but clearly he's not in control. After all, he is part of the trio that made the MCU happen, along side Iron Man and Nick Fury... and the only one Tony Stark didn't make a suit for...
@@verticalfracture It has sounds like Jon Favreau has had to take a back seat in the making of The Mandalorian, apparently. Rumors are going around that KK has been seriously meddling with the show since s2 and that he wants to leave now.
@@lessalazar9068 I definitely would like to see what the producer notes are but even with aggressive top-down action there is no excuse for the bad writing.
Rebels was bad and W0ke. TCW S7 was infected with W0keness too. The shoehorning of Boo-Karen as a her-o started there. He is no savior. He cooperated with Johnson on TLJ and loved the subverting of expectations.
*This show would’ve been much better* if The New Republic was this herald of changing times.. and these bounty hunters, Mandalorians, Moff Gideon and Jedi realise they’re not aloud to run amok anymore - and their time is slowly coming to an end.. would’ve made everything more emotional.
That would be a more interesting story than Disney's sequel trilogy. But I think the main antagonists for the sequels should be the Yuuzhan Vong to keep Star Wars fresh and new, and nostalgic for EU fans.
Worst thing about Taika is that he CAN write drama and CAN write impactful scenes. See e.g. JoJo Rabbit. It was amazing. But yeah, it had lots of funny scenes, if only to juxtapose with the really dramatic ones. The man CAN write, but he writes unevenly. Sometimes it works. Sometimes not.
I’ve loved taika’s indie comedies. The problem is that he very clearly doesn’t respect or understand sc-fi or superheroes so he has to make everything into a joke
Yeah, people don't realize that skills aren't universally transferable. A guy who can paint Harleys doesn't automatically have the ability to paint Warhammer miniatures, because painting isn't just painting, they are different skillsets even if both are painting. Likewise, writing isn't just writing and directing isn't just directing, there are certain skills that are needed to be able to do certain types of projects, and being successful with one type of movie or show does not mean you'll be successful at a different type. People need to be picked to work on projects they're suitable for, not just picked for whatever project because they've been good at other ones.
@@GabrielShadowArcher Exactly which is why I find it hilariously awful that the director for the rey movie has never made a fictional feature length movie ever. She's only done documentaries (very important work to be fair) but it wouldn't give her the experience for her first feature let alone star wars. Besides the documentaries her only work is 2 ms.marvel episodes which barely anyone saw. Heck even George Lucas' first movie wasn't star wars.
I follow a lot of Star Wars channels, and they’ve had to cover the Disney Canon to stay relevant. They’ve simped over everything from Rey to Book of Boba Fett and Reva from Obi Wan show. But even _THEY_ won’t talk about Mando season 3 lol
At least the Obi-Wan show had famous characters with actual arcs (even though they didn’t make sense for the time period they were in). I feel really bad for all these Star Wars channels. They are going to die off pretty soon
@@superjlk_9538I’ll give the show this: It was nice seeing Ewan Mcgregor and Hayden and the girl playing Leia was adorable but otherwise the show was trash.
@@superjlk_9538 Uncle Owen was the only character who felt real and they limited his screen time for some random black lady and a pretend child version of Leia. The show could've been so much better with more focus on Luke and Obi Wan and Uncle Owen clashing over what's best for Luke. We got maybe 10 minutes of that because the force is female sh*te comes first every time.
You guys all make a very good point and it’s this. Imagine the rich seam of stories exploring the Star Wars universe, the emotion, the excitement created from following a Mandalorian bounty hunter.
Close …it might be number three? Number one in my opinion was the end episode of six years of LOST. Number two would be the ending of Game of Thrones number three would be taking me a Star Wars showman that felt authentic specifically the first year of the Mandalorian, even though the premise was simple and turning it into this.
@Joe Kerry She sounds like a barrel o’laughs… No wonder Disney/Lucasfilm hired her though as she’s obviously just their type: woman, fashionably ethnic, laughably over promoted, negligible talent and a chip on shoulder the metaphorical size of New Mexico… 😉
This combination of commentators is my dream team to listen to. I watch individual videos on all of your channels, but listening to you discuss things together is... I could do this all day.
I do take issue with comparing Picard to the old Wolverine movies. I get what the drinker’s saying, but it’s a bad comparison. The Wolverine movies were like treating yourself to a bad restaurant. The service was decent, the ambience was fine, but the food itself was subpar. When you leave your feedback, the manager seemed genuinely sorry that the meal didn’t please and works to better the experience for his next customers. Picard, on the other hand, would be like returning to an old favorite restaurant after it’s come under new management, initially liking the spruce-up it’s received under its new owners, but then noticing a few things that just seem off. The hostess glares when you stop by for your table, and she rings a waiter without saying a word. Once you’re seated, the waiters sneer at you whenever they walk by, and when you ask what the hell is going on, they just chuckle to themselves and walk away. To top it all off, you see that someone pissed in your food when they bring it out to you. After you leave your feedback, the new management resents the very idea that they didn’t improve your existence through their directly vile treatment of you, and whenever the owner is interviewed on TV, he and his interviewer just laugh at all those worthless, uneducated slobs who didn’t appreciate their nasty looks and piss soup. You can’t compare the two experiences at all. One is earnest but underwhelming, the other is intentionally disgusting and wicked to the very people that made the franchise what it is. It’s about time we stopped looking for ways to save these franchises. The people in charge can’t be convinced to return to “normal.” They hate what you like, and more importantly, they hate you. Even if they made a show of dialing things back to please their overlords and keep a shred of their fanbase, you know for certain that it’s only that: a show. There’s no sincerity there, and the moment they’re able they will return to destroying your favorite cultural icons and tormenting you because, to them, that’s why they were put on this earth. That’s their purpose. They want to bring about a new culture, one entirely different from the one you love, and they do that by breaking your culture intentionally. When you’re in an abusive relationship, you don’t try to change the other person. You get the hell out of there, call someone you trust, and never connect with the abuser again. That’s our problem right now: we’re trying to change the other person, but we can’t. They don’t want to change. Time to leave these people for good.
The Mandalorian was one of the few reasons why I got Disney+ and even bought an Disney star wars Merchandise. But Season 3 has been so bad that I haven't even wanted to get Disney +, it was enough that I watched 3 episodes at a friend's house.
You can only use Kennedy as a skapegoat for so long. The infestation is clearly far more expansive here as EVERY show is getting turned into a Thor love and thunder scene complete with jabba fett Vespa squad visuals. I can’t wait to see the next season of andor, it’ll be magical.
All story direction and ideas have to go through her first. If she is adamant about bo katan being the lead then they really have no choice but to play along or breach their contract.
It's crazy to me how consistently Disney is able to avoid delivering to its audience exactly what they want. Is this a problem with design by committee, crabs in a bucket, or something actually malicious? Mando was their flagship show on Disney+. It's the height of insanity. It's like they want their streaming service to fail. Mando was the one diamond in the rough of all of nuwars and they basically just killed it.
Nah that was Andow, which had great writing, excellent acting and no woke bullshit. But, oh no it has no flashy lightsabers so its not SW. Mandalorian was allways mediocre at best, especially the writing was thin. It was their flagship show yes, but not a diamond...not even a precious stone.
@@2nd_Directorate No one cared about Andor. And honestly, why make a show about a dead character no one cared about.? Another lost opportunity Disney made not making a Dark Forces movie/show with Kyle Katarn. Mando was their flagship because it actually moved merch and got subscriptions. I never saw Andor. Maybe it was good. It's just that it's irrelevant and Disney helped make it so.
@@2nd_Directorate Andor had two problems - first, it's about the dork from Rogue One, a spin-off film. While said spin-off wasn't a bad film by any means, I had no desire to see any of the characters from it expanded. The second problem is that it was not Star Wars in the same vein as the Original Trilogy, and even the Prequels. Andor was dark, dismal and "horrible" in the sense that there's no real hope in it. The Prequels and Originals had hope as a cornerstone of the story-telling, where even when things are going really badly, there's still hope for a brighter tomorrow as delivered by the dedicated men and women that were spear-heading those efforts. Andor's message is seemingly that no one is ever united, even in the face of a evil Galactic Empire, and that everything will suck forever, but you can try to make it suck a little less. It's not what I want to see out of Star Wars. I want to see Wars, I want to see Jedi, I want to see Rebels vs Empire or Droids vs Clones. This is the problem with having a film franchise that's at least 50 years old, there are expectations to fulfill in terms of what the audience wants to see.
@@OKMBVideos Well, those two problems are both subjective. If it is what you felt about it, then it is what it is. Btw, might remind you of the Ferrix funeral scene which showed us hope in spades. What you want out of a SW movie or show is flashy battles. And you are not the audience you are just a small part of it. I am (still) a huge SW fan but i got fed up with everything anchoring around Skywalkers and Force Users with only oh so few books and games in between which broke this. Means for me Andor was exactly what i wanted.
@Markus Gutjahr I don't think it's unreasonable to say that there isn't much interest amongst the wider fandom in a side character from a spin-off film. This is like making a spin-off show surrounding Merry or Pippin from Lord of the Rings. As to the point about flashy battles, etcetera - yes. That's what Star Wars is built off of. Hence the name. Flashy battles, laser swords, the fight between good and evil. Having a dismal show that doesn't look like, sound like, or feel like Star Wars bar the usage of names and the main character results in something that isn't appealing to Star Wars fans, or the individuals looking for those elements that are endemic to what Star Wars is. People, particulalry Andor fans, seem to forget that these elements are what people are looking for in these franchises, and when they aren't there, people will definitely jump ship because they go to those franchises looking for these things. There is definitely a place for stories like Andor's in the wide Star Wars universe, but in a format that is more appealing to the wider Star Wars fanbase. If Andor wasn't labeled as Star Wars, I'd be a whole lot kinder to it. Andor reminds me of Halo 4. Halo 1-3, Reach and arguably ODST were all military sci-fi games that were focused on combined arms and fighting as part of a larger military. Then 343 came along and decided that was too mainstream, so they basically removed the military sci-fi aspects almost entirely and made it entirely focused on two characters and a strong focus on melodrama. Funny, that Halo 4 was basically the death of the Halo franchise.
Good point. Give Bo her own show! That way you can focus on the whole thing about the blade, two factions and Mandalore. Leaving us with a show about DIn/Mando and Grogu.
Rage had a few one liners that were so good and went over everyone’s heads! The race swapping the Death Star line fell like a rock in water, that was hilarious!
You know what’s crazy? The whole reason Din went to bathe in the sacred waters was because he didn’t feel worthy wielding the Darksaber. After episode 2 this season should’ve been focused on Din learning to wield the Darksaber with Bo Katan teaching him and slowly gaining confidence and respect for becoming the ruler of Mandalore. If the entire season was Din going to bathe in the waters and then going back and gaining the respect of his own clan, then going out to recruit the Nite Owls, to reclaiming Mandalore while becoming close to Bo Katan and developing some sort of closer relationship with her which leads to her character development and not anything else it could’ve been a somewhat better show. Also Grogu should’ve continued to master the force while being with Mando. They could’ve shown him throughout the season trying to use Beast Control or some other force power and failing which would then tie into the finale with him taming the Mythosaur. There could’ve been so many ways to make this show astronomically better but instead they spent an entire episode on two bad guys that we do not care about and also spent an episode on celebrity cameo filler. Give in mind that this season is eight episodes and they’ve already wasted one fourth of it. They could’ve had an episode showing us how Mof Gideon escaped or where he was while everything else was happening, they could’ve given us an episode setting up the current relationship with Din and Bo, They could’ve given us another imperial base raid episode or brought back Bill Burr’s character to do something! Anything than the last two episodes that had some sort of importance to the story would’ve been better than the other two episodes.
My friend continues to be a Disney fan and watch this show. I brought up that BK is the main character now and brought up a lot of the disappointing plot elements. He claimed that there was some romantic relationship being built between Mando and BK…I instantly bet him $20 that in the remaining three episodes there will be not one kiss or shred of romance between BK and Mando because I know modern Disney is never going to saddle their female lead with something like a relationship. Wish my friend could have bet more!
@@nrossetti2046 Yep, one more episode left and Din hasn't even friendzoned himself, but instead lapdogged himself, which is even further removed from a romantic relationship
Bo is a dead weight to the whole show. Nobody cares about her. Nobody started to watch the series for her, she wasn´t even in it in S1. It is painfully obvious where they had to insert her into the script. Like when everyone was like "Why were they waiting through the night to save the boy?" Because KK wanted Booo Mary Sue getting praised by others and having the honor of staying by the fire when they were eating. Or why is she the only one besides Din who has a ship? How did the Mandos get on that planet? Did they took a taxi and killed the driver? It is obvious there was supposed to be a second, larger ship which can contain a group of Mandos. When Din gave the motivation speech to convince the clan to help Karga and move to Nevarro, Paz said Din and Booo wanted to help Karga. But Booo said nothing, it was Din´s speech, because original script was written only for him and Paz for that scene. The investigation of droid attacks should have been done by Cara (because she is a cop) and Din. This proves Booo wasn´t supposed to be in that episode at all and Din was supposed to fight that m0r0n in blue armor. He was also supposed to see the mythosaur in the mines after taking bath. I´m convinced Favreau´s original idea was to let Booo finally die in the bombing of her castle, understanding she is highly unpopular. But Furloni can´t let go of his crappy fanfic character and KK wanted grrrrl power. There were rumours about 2 years ago Pedro will remove his helmet more often in S3. There was an interview where Pedro talked about it. It was on RUclips somewhere. That would make sense if his story from the underdog to the ruler was finished as originally planned. It was all supposed to lead to the clans uniting with one basic creed for all of them. So getting rid of the helmet rule would make sense, and who else would be the one to establish it than Din? He met Mandos from other clan and Boba. They sidelined him and put Booo on his rightful and earned place as someone who "walked both worlds". OMG! Din "walked both worlds" too, and some more. He was the one who accepted Boba as worthy of his armor, not Booo. She has not apologized yet.
'They will die a death that will last millennia, until all that remains is their code, their history and, in the end, the shell of their armour upon the shell of a man too easily slain by Jedi.' -Kreia Nihilistic prediction it may have been, but a fitting and poignant end for space samurai.
I made the mistake of being ill and incredibly bored and finally watching (via some nice oceangoing chap with an eyepatch and a parrot) the most recent Mandalorian episode, and it felt like it had been written for five year olds. Actually, scratch that, it felt like it had been written *by* five year olds. It's basically live action Rebels at this point.
Because Filoni has the main word now and KK is his backup. Have you seen how sad Favreau looked at the SW celebration? He had some logical, consistent story in his head but it got thrown away for agenda.
Giving Rey another movie is great! Think of the possibilities! Disney could spend $500m on it and we can all go to the theatre and watch something else!
OOOOOOOOO you got my boy razorfist on here ! hell yeah the master of history, metal, and has a way with words that would make even the critical drinker blush
Taika is the equivalent to that one annoying brother or friend who, when you’re trying to play with your toys in a serious way, he comes in with his own story and makes the toys do unrealistic things and trying to be funny by just slapping the toys together thinking that’s how fighting works.
At this point, the only thing that could even remotely motivate me to start watching again would be the Yuuzhan Vong entering the picture and beginning a great purge to hunt down and massacre every solitary living thing in the Disney Star Wars universe...maybe.
I was saying it about halfway into this season; “The Mandalorian” was just a Trojan Horse for a Bo Katan series this time around. They obviously didn’t have confidence people would care about a Bo Katan series, so they cloaked it as something else. I’ve been far more skeptical than many about Feloni for a long time now. I think I see that Feloni doesn’t want to continue in the footsteps of the OT. Feloni is far more interested in the Feloniverse led by characters such as Ahsoka Tano, Bo Katan, and Sabine Wren. So much for all the rumors about Kathleen Kennedy not getting her way. “The Force” is now obviously female, just like she told us all along.
Yep. DF is as bad and w0ke as KK. Nobody cares about those awful characters. Only Ahsoka is popular, but he will manage to ruin her too. Wait, he already did that when she selectively forgot Boo-Karen tried to murder her and torched villagers.
@@Adam-sd2ow to be fair to X Ray Girl, she's actually doing work while everyone's talking. You can see her moving between tasks, so it's not like she's 100% in the conversation as a participant.
The Mandalorian has become The Bocalorian season 3. Like the Mandalorian in BoB and Reva in Kenobi before her Bo Katan has now hijacked The Mandolrian.
@@00spinz35 What a stupid argument. The show is called THE Mandalorian, not "Mandalorians". There's absolutely no excuse for randomly switching the main character.
@Gbrow160 by that logic there should be no other mandalorians in the show at all because it's called THE mandalorian not the mandalorians and then there'd be like what only 10% of the content left after that maybe?
@@00spinz35 You're being disingenuous and you know it. The show was clearly about THE Mandalorian in the form of Din Djarin from day one. He appeared in the majority of episodes, and even when other Mandalorians were on-screen, the story followed Din, not the other Mandos. You can have other Mandos, but we're focused on THE Mandalorian, in the form of Din. Shifting focus from THE Mandalorian to Bo Katan is not want the fans want and not what the show is about. If it was called The Mandalorians and followed the struggles of the group of Mandalorians instead of just one character, I'd be more forgiving.
After seeing the latest episode of Mandalorian, I can't say I'm terribly excited about the direction Ahsoka and things afterwards are headed. They are clearly preparing to show the origins of the First Order which we've already seen firsthand by introducing Brendol Hux and his "Project Necromancer" as well as the first version of the Preatorian guards who wear pieces of future First Order Stormtrooper armor, just like the Imperial Super Commandos. I predict this upcoming film which will supposedly wrap up everything that began with Mandalorian season 1 will basically be a prequel to Force Awakens. And the upcoming Rey movie will surely include a much older Ahsoka and Grogu as cameos because LFL seems to want to turn Star Wars into the MCU.
The perfect example of what taika did with the last thor movie is Vince Russo and WCW. When he was with the WWF he would suggest stuff and Vince had the last word of what made it to TV and PPV and that led to the greatest era of wrestling The Attitude Era and the start of the Monday night wars but he jumped ship to the WCW and was completely in charge and control and what happened there with him in charge is legendary with things like Judy Bagwell on a pole match and Viagra on a pole match. Oh and let’s not forget Oklahoma which was a guy imitating and taking the piss out of Jim Ross who was suffering with Bells Palsy at the time.. basically just because someone has a few good ideas you don’t let them be in charge until they’ve proved themselves on a way smaller scale
Disney wont give Bo-Katan her own tv show because they know no one is even going to watch her. But using Mando’s show to be telling her broken ass story that no one gives two shits about, yeah sure!! Let’s do that! It’s the only way for Ms. Kathleen to continue spreading the love and to bring “the message” into the world. Ms. Kennedy was probably like: “If Jon Favreau gives, we shall take! It’s in the genre equality rule to share everything with each other. It’s in our right to take what’s ours, even if it’s not ours to take!”. Think about this. If Bo-Katan was a man, they wouldn’t have casted him to replace Mando, since Mando’s the better bounty hunter or the better man, right? I mean we all know what happened to Boba Fett, no one cared. But if Bo-Katan was a woman!!! Sure. Why not?! 🤬💣💥🔥🖕🏼. Let’s dig a grave and throw Mando and Grogu in there, and let’s start making this about Bo-Katan instead. What!?!?! It makes me sick, honestly. But honestly now I wouldn’t mind to see if Jon F. was being paid a lot to work on his own stuff with Din and Grogu without Kathleen interfering, separately from possibly another show with Bo! I mean I would watch both. Her story can be about uniting all mandalorians, and riding the dinosaur.. yeah sure!😂 No matter how much I hate that idea😫😤.. but let Mando be Mando doing his bounty hunter missions, and teaching Grogu to find his path through the force and all that! And to actually lead other mandalorians into battle and to be considered a fierce warrior and leader who actually walks the way regardless of bathing in the waters or not. Not like Bo a hypocrite person that walks both ways…. now that I think about it, It makes me jump off a building, man! a.k.a im Kermit the frog! They should honestly remove all the posters and advertisements with Mando and grogu in all cities of the Earth with democracy and turn them into Bo-Katan starring in “The Mandalorian” since it’s her show now and she’s the main role. I promise you if that happens in season 4, people will forget this tv series even existed. Or just claim that the mandalorian lasted for only two seasons. And like Drinker says, I can’t wait for that to happen! Muhahahah
I would have given a Bo-Katan show a chance. It would have been just as disappointing as Book of Bob A. Fett, but I still would have given it a chance.
I'm still holding out for the one scene where Bo-Katan hands back the Dark Sabre to Din and says, "I may have the lineage, but you are the true Mandalorian. You don't follow me. I'll follow you." "I don't want it. I don't seek power." "Yes. This is the way." I mean it's not inconceivable right? Bo Katan was shown how to be a true Mandalorian by Din, his diplomatic skills are better (routinely shown by how he negotiates with non-mandalorians), and the unifying force between the clans wasn't her but Din (and the armourer). His words, brief as they are, actually convince people. It wasn't Bo-Katan winning a fight that brought the clans together. It was Din Djarin telling a story. There's enough there to make it happen... I hope.
Im starting to think that Bo Katan was meant to be in the Rangers of the New Republic but when that show got cancelled they put Bo Katan into The Mandalorian instead and The Mandalorian was supposed to end at the end of season 2 but was kept going because of Grogu which is a charterer that audiences might now be getting bored with which could be one of the reasons why audiences are now lower than previous seasons.
The writers certainly are bored with him because he's mostly a set piece and has done an amount of things I can count on 1 hand spread throughout the season: got Bo Katan to save Din, entertained aristocrats so the side quest could happen, broke up a fight, and got into a mech for shenanigans
I was going to say that Waitiki wrote and directed The Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Jojo Rabbit, and What We Do in the Shadows, but upon closer inspection he adapted books for the first two, and co-wrote WWDITS with Jemaine Clement. So yeah, there really does seem to be evidence that he can't do it all on his own.
I've liked Bo-Katan since the Clone Wars. I just don't understand why they simply didn't start the show with her if it was going to become all about her.
I do like her character even in this show, but I am maybe biased because I do like Katee Sackhoff. What I don't like is that her character takes over The Mandalorian who should be the hero in this show. I mean, he kinda is, but not how I expect it; and some episodes just feel like fillers as they don't have any decent ideas it seems.
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RazorFist's "We race swapped the Death Star" when describing Lizzo in Star Wars just went over everyone's heads.
that's because we were doubled over laughing.... oh, you meant the other panelists, lol 🤣😂🤣😂
Yeah that was a brilliant zinger.
Nah, Lizzo has her own gravitational pull. The Death Star didn’t.
@@NotALot-xm6gz Great Drake Interplanetary reference, sir. Kudos.
@@NotALot-xm6gz lolololoooolololool
*The fact that Baby Yoda went back to Mando makes the entire two seasons pointless.* 😐
And Moff Gideon didn’t make it to trial - - so it’s even more pointless.. in fact Luke asking *A Child* to make a decision for the rest of his life - is TLJ levels of character assassination.
@@firstlast9846 And Darksaber went to Bo-Katan without any fight...
Couldn't even respect Temura Morrison enough to let it take over his show too.
@@firstlast9846
Well, we allow 6 year olds to go through HRT because someone suggest they want to change gender, so that logic seems to work out.
@@ldorman
No, it doesn't work out, because that's wrong too.
Din Djarin: *removes helmet*
The Armorer: "You are no longer Mandalorian."
Bo-Katan: *removes helmet*
The Armorer: "You walk both worlds."
Double standards in a nutshell.
Exactly lol
LAZY WRITING!
No, Bo Katan is a STRONG WOMAN. Therefore the rules don't apply to her and she will never lose a fight in the show and IF she does you can bet it will never be a man...
Why do all the women in this show look very masculine with a strong jawline/physique or androgynous features lol
@@chasehedges6775 Din Djarin cannot take of his helmet, because the actor underneath is usually not Pedro Pascal, Pedro mostly does voice acting.
Mando needs to start saying things like “She’s my queen” and “I don’t want it”.
But only if he bangs her out.
God, Kit is a terrible actor but with that season 8 dialogue, he became the gold standard of shit. Made his acting in that crap heap Pompeii look like Kirk Douglas in Spartacus.
Lol yeah it's starting to feel eerily similar.
He already did in the latest episode. Pledged himself to her and everything.
I hate that he kind of did in this latest episode.
I am your loyal knight or whatever bullshit.
Whatever Din you just fuckin met her 😂
Imagine sabotaging a money printing machine, then trying to fix it with duct tape rather than rebuild it once you decide you actually DO want money.
They didnt use duct tape they used a lighter . And that burned the entire machine.
Duct tape would be generous. More accurately, they used bubble gum and toothpicks.
They want the money just not the money from a certain group of fans which is hurting the brand.
It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
It certainly printed money for George Lucas.
KK was in control for season 3 and holy crap it shows😢✌️
I absolutely believe this too. The tone of this season is so different than the last two.
I mean if she helped with ep7 and 8 , she's done well
@@00spinz35 yeah I’m sure former hero Mando swearing his allegiance and service to Bo Katan went over well.
@GinNBoost you mean a mandalorian who loves by the creed swearing allegiance to the highest ranking mandalorian ?
Bo katan is both royalty and has the most experience being a leader (regardless of past failure) who else is more suitable?
@@00spinz35 she earned the dark saber for “reasons.” She is not a leader or queen in my mind. She can have her own show if they want to do a redemption arc. For Din to become this lost puppy dog to her is sad and pathetic. It also has Kathleen Kennedy’s stank all over it.
If there is at least one thing that you will know that Lucasfilms (Or Disney as a whole) is consistent on, it’s bait and switching a popular male lead with a superior female counterpart.
Modern Disney and Lucasfilm in general
I would put that superior between “”. Because the female replacement as basically just Rey Palpatine light, bunch of Mary sues that only character development is humiliating the male lead.
Except here its fine, because Mando is still a badass and it makes sense for Bo Katan to rule Mandalore
*inferior
@@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854 Bo-Katan isn't a Mary Sue though. Or at least she wasn't in Clone Wars and Rebels. It'd be nice if they actually brought up her past in this show though because she was a Villain in Clone Wars and they kind of just skipped her redemption arc.
"We race swapped the death star." didn't get the laugh it deserved.
Holy shit had me busting out laughing.
Lizzo is star killer base 2.0
@@aeganratheesh Lizzo could house the entire Imperial Navy and still have space to spare.
Me too. I was looking for this comment.
Haha yeah. I was surprised nobody addressed that comment
DIdn't Lizzo "s" harass Chris Hemsworth, publicly, and get away with it because V?
It would have been better for The Mandolorian to have ended at the finale of season 2; the goal is achieved, Grogu is with Luke and will be trained in the force. And it also held the message “What you want, and what’s for the best aren’t always the same thing. Sometimes you have to let go.” Which is a very somber and mature end.
I think that’s going to be the conclusion for me, it feels like the natural destination of the story.
Everything past that is Disney trying to keep this money boat sailing as is, because change is scary for them, they’d rather repeat the same thing over and over, than risk doing something new.
Let go? Like Yodumb and Obi Wan wanted him to do with his father?
It doesn't mesh that he would kowtow to the Jedi's anal moral code that forbids attachments and emotions when it was because of HIS attachments that the Empire was brought to its knees in the OT
@@jeremyallen5974Indeed, this Luke was no different from the old order he was supposed to reform into something less dogmatic and closer to the force.
“What you want, and what’s for the best aren’t always the same thing. Sometimes you have to let go.”
That kind of message is so totally opposed to the culture of entitlement and self-indulgence that dominates Hollywood they could never let it stand.
it's almost like disney is a profit driven company
Well I didn't start Season 3 or the Book of Bobba Fett, so that's the ending for me. I've also taken to consider Endgame the end of Marvel for me. I have to give myself closure, because Disney sure as fuck won't.
The whole point of Mando is that he's not supposed to have "so much character," but in S1 they really got a lot of character out of those small moments. That's what made the show cool. He's mysterious, he lands on a planet, and does a thing, then rides off into the sunset. Like a propper Western Movie hero.
The Man With No Name in Space. People love Clint Eastwood spaghetti Westerns and none of his characters had much character.
Not necessary, he started of as a "Man with no name" but since first episode his growth began, and we started to learn more about him, we saw him evolving, and learn what kind of man he is. Din is my favourite character in Disney SW. And I was hoping that the entire point of S3 will be for him to embrace his role as a leader, and master the Darksabre. I wouldn't mind more attention to other Mandalorians, but the focus should've ramain on him, and he should have character arc set for this season. At first he had to abandon his day-to-day lifestyle in order to protect something innocent, then he was set on journey in which he embraced his role as father figure, where he was constantly challenged on his beliefs. Bo-Katan is a fine character, she is mandalorian too but from completely different background, setting her up for him so they could find a common ground would be a great dynamic, the problem is, that too much focus was put on her, and Din was portrayed as just there. I don't understand why he wasn't allowed to see the Mythosaur, why he wasn't credited for providing land for fellow Mandalorians and why writers gave him that cringe speech about serving Bo-Katan when I never had impression that he was serving anyone. Cooperating? Yes, sure, he helps his friends, because he is loyal and honorable man. I don't see why he would make out of her, someone from a different tribe essentially his boss.
There is only one episode left, maybe I am naive in thinking that there will be a massive twist. But I guess I have to find out by myself. But I am frustrated with another bait and switch.
@@archstanton9073 That was exactly who Boba Fett was modelled after. Spurs and all.
@@archstanton9073 But you're entirely wrong. its entirely based, and they even used some direct referencing shots, on Lone Wolf and Cub.
Shit, does nobody who watches this retarded channel know ANYTHING about media??
Honestly the first season of mando was what book of boba fett should have been but even this show they didn't manage to keep on a consistent level of quality.
The Mandalorian season 3 is so obviously a Kathleen Kennedy disaster, it was successful for 2 seasons and she couldn't stay away. Bo Katan should have been her own show.
I agree so much with this. The first 2 seasons were really good but then the mediocre Book Of Boba Fett and Kenobi happened and S3 suffered for it.
The Mandalorian was terrible from the start, but appears to have gotten worse (I stopped watching a long time ago). Bo Katan shouldn’t have her own show; she never should have existed. The Mandalorian could have had a reason to exist if the show were millions of times better than it was at its best.
Bo Katan should have been an antagonist in season 3, blinded by her jealousy over Mando getting the Darksaber and forcing Mando to become the new Mandalorian leader by her anger and actions to reclaim it. Showing how someone's single minded, blind determination to lead can cause their downfall while keeping Mando in the lead. A stand alone Bo Katan series could have been all about her seeking redemption and seeking an honorable way to reclaim her rightful position.
But what the hell is character building when you can just jump past that like with Marvel going from classic storytelling to jump over that and go to modern trash in one phase!
Not every character needs their own show. At this rate the empire janitor should get their own spin-off.
I think the disconnect here is between those who followed Bo Katan's story arc thru CW and Rebels, and those who didn't.
Daisy Ripley's career is going nowhere. When KK called offering her another lead role she probably jumped at it. It is not like anybody else is knocking at her door with work offers.
Where you’re trying to be the next Keira Knightly but everyone abandoned that typecast 10 years ago…
It's the Hamill curse.
Kiera Knightley already exists. No one wanted the discount version.
Which is sad because she could be an interesting lead, but yeah like someone said she's just Kiera Knightley lite.
*Critical Drinker should probably choose a more natural hair dye besides black*
"Star Wars is dead. You either move forward or die with it." - Stunning and Brave.
They lived enough to see themselves become the villain
@@chasehedges6775
Worse, they still think of themselves as the hero.
I don't think Star Wars will ever die. The fans won't let it, and channels like this which rely on ranting about it also won't let it die.
@Chosen One
"It's about Space Wizards intended for children."
Eh?
@Chosen One
Just vetting you.
Greetings, Patrick Willems!
I must say, The Critical Doggo has truly elevated the already excellent discourse on this pod. MVP of the league.
I know what The Critical Doggo did last summer.
Sometimes true wisdom lies in saying nothing at all.
Truly difficult for many people. I pity tha' fools.
@@b.a.barackas2141 MAH NIGGA! OUR LIVES MATTER!
As Din Djarin fades into the background, so do the ratings...
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Pedro Pascal left anyway so that’s probably the main reason.
But his narrative has run its course, though. What else are we to do with Din Djarin?
@@cptpepper7731 and because of lack of creation you have to strip the main character of a show be robbed of everything? s2 finale is tottally unmade by now, and mando got everything stole from him
@Cpt Pepper No, it didn't. He had the darksaber and was primed to go through the reluctant hero's journey that culminates in becoming Mandalore's new leader. At least, he was before they ruined it...
Bill Burr’s character from season 2 probably has the most character out of anyone in the show.
Dr Pershing has more.
@@Сайтамен not anymore 😮
Yes. I’d say the ONLY character with any personality or charisma, besides Apollo creed. The rest are wood
I agree. That scene where he shot the officer was just great.
Yeah and notice how many returning characters we got this season.... Ant Man 3 vibes. Cut all the characters and force in the next big enemy.
"We race-swapped the Death Star.“😅
I know, Styx had me laughing for a good minute there.
@@sereksusvictar7888 People still watch Styx?
You may queef when ready
Biggest reveal so far
@@sereksusvictar7888 styxhexenrazorfistfistfist
Season 2 of Mando ended with such an intruiging set up for Season 3 for me. You had the Fundamentalist (Armourer), the Politician (Bo Katan) and the Pragmatist (Fett) all representing the extremes of Mandalorian culture. Then you have Din, who has been exposed to and managed to find merits (and flaws) in all 3 outlooks, plus he's found himself with a claim to be the defacto King of all Mandalorians, a position he doesn't really want. The Grogu/Godeon arc was resolved, season 3 should have been about Din trying to unify the various Mandalorian tribes whilst fending off Imperial Remnants and ever increasing 'interest' from the New Republic, who want to know why Mandalorians are suddenly gathering in ever increasing numbers.
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But no, we got season 3.
That would have required competent writers
Man that would've been so much better....
@@RisingUnderdog Writers are not in charge, producers are.
@Angel I get that. The writing could still be more solid, though. So over KK being in charge 😩
I always thought they were setting him up to abandon the old way and forge his own path with darksaber.
Imagine if the Original Trilogy were such that Leia wasn't in _A New Hope_ at all, by all accounts doesn't exist. Then she shows up somewhere halfway through _The Empire Strikes Back_ as an absolute boss girl, telling both Luke and Han what's what and even talking some smack to Vader. Finally, in _Return of the Jedi,_ after no shortage of mild deliberation, Yoda, Vader, and the Emperor are just like, "Yeah, sorry Luke. It was Leia from the beginning. Because her middle name is literally Hope."
That's how this show feels.
Not comparable bo katan has existed for years
@@00spinz35 That's not an excuse to make her take over a show.
@Gbrow160 why does there need to be an excuse? The show doesn't have to make the story how you want it
You ha w to remember salty dr8nker fans aren't the majority when it comes to watching the mandolorian, at best you can speak on behalf on what maybe 40k people?
@@00spinz35 Sure, I guess if the showrunners really wanted to, they could make Mandalorians ride around on unicorns with wings and shoot rainbows. Wouldn't make it GOOD.
And a lot of metrics have shown a decrease in positivity for the Mandalorian, from reduced audience score, lower ratings, and just what I've heard from people in real life.
@@00spinz35 lmao she existed for years and all of 7 people knew about her, better hand her shitty filoni OC the keys to the kingdom!
Oh man, I can’t wait for Rey to off-handedly remark about how Poe and Finn died off-screen.
Or worse, the two men turned to evil after she put them in the friend zone. And *then* she had to whack them.
@@TheMaleRei
No, no, no.
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They're going to get married...to each other.
@@notacompleteidiot...1285
Holy shit.
You're right.
That's... Disney of the Current Year.
No they were recruited by "special forces" like Cara Dune
@@TheyWantMeGone69
Too dignified.
Taika would have thought the whole "they fly now?" " they fly now" was comedic genius
Definitely
There are few Directors capable of superior Multitasking, and none work at Disney. Seriously - focus on a discipline to continuously improve and look for advancements within it. Too many writer/director attempts within the 'Big Leagues' lately and that was always a hallmark of those poorly made/hard to watch films of the past. You know - those that made me believe money laundering was real. If Ron Howards next film is from Disney, you know he too has been 'swallowed up'.
@@terrylandess6072 👍👍
*Critical Drinker should probably choose a more natural hair dye besides black*
"They didn't tell us which Mandalorian they were talking about" 🤣 That one had me rolling.
After Grogu stops a fight:
Bo-Katan: You taught him well.
Din: I didn't teach him that.
The writers really make Din look bad and/or incompetent all the time.
So mando season 3 is just new generic disney project #746.
Season 2 set Din up to be the owner of the Darksaber and the heir of the Mandalorian throne. It was highly speculated he would find and tame a Mythosaur, and one day reunite with a trained Grogu…
But season three came along and gave all that to Bo, while Din was reduced to a supportive bodyguard/lapdog character in his own series. Hell, Grogu is even seen frequently spending time with Bo rather than Mando. The only thing he really has left is the Beskar on his back… will they take that too in the finale?
The Mandalorian Season 3 is actually Bo Katan season 1. Either Jon and Dave lost their mojo, or Kathleen Kennedy forced her way again.
Yeah, baby Yoda was even sitting in her lap one episode. Just like Rey, she's going to steal everything from him.
Imagine if we got a grogu and Luke show while Mando story being about him finding mines but before going there he give beskar armor to grogu
Because his not sure about him surviving mandalore trip that would been last time we see him being close to him
After that they could done battle for throne story line
OR they always agreed with KK, the civil war stuff is utter nonsense and trying to claim its all on KK may get views snd generate content but is utterly disproved by the last 5 years.
It's ridiculous to claim anything good was against what KK wanted snd the tripe is when KK insisted. Its asinine.
But take this comment with a pinch of salt....
Bo is a dead weight to the whole show. Nobody cares about her. Nobody started to watch the series for her, she wasn´t even in it in S1. She is a terrorist, slaver and schemer against her sister who got her killed and participated on the fall of Mandalore the most.
It is painfully obvious where they had to insert her into the script. Like when everyone was like "Why were they waiting through the night to save the boy?" Because KK wanted Booo Mary Sue getting praised by others and having the honor of staying by the fire when they were eating.
Or why is she the only one besides Din who has a ship? How did the Mandos get on that planet? Did they took a taxi and killed the driver? It is obvious there was supposed to be a second, larger ship which can contain a group of Mandos.
When Din gave the motivation speech to convince the clan to help Karga and move to Nevarro, Paz said Din and Booo wanted to help Karga. But Booo said nothing, it was Din´s speech, because original script was written only for him and Paz for that scene.
The investigation of droid attacks should have been done by Cara (because she is a cop) and Din. This proves Booo wasn´t supposed to be in that episode at all and Din was supposed to fight that m0r0n in blue armor.
He was also supposed to see the mythosaur in the mines after taking bath.
I´m convinced Favreau´s original idea was to let Booo finally die in the bombing of her castle, understanding she is highly unpopular. But Furloni can´t let go of his crappy fanfic character and KK wanted grrrrl power.
There were rumours about 2 years ago Pedro will remove his helmet more often in S3. There was an interview where Pedro talked about it. It was on RUclips somewhere.
That would make sense if his story from the underdog to the ruler was finished as originally planned. It was all supposed to lead to the clans uniting with one basic creed for all of them. So getting rid of the helmet rule would make sense, and who else would be the one to establish it than Din? He met Mandos from other clan and Boba.
They sidelined him and put Booo on his rightful and earned place as someone who "walked both worlds". OMG! Din "walked both worlds" too, and some more. He was the one who accepted Boba as worthy of his armor, not Booo. She has not apologized yet.
How is it "disproved?" People she can fire visibly agreeing with her and doing what she wants? No way!?
I don't recall anyone getting that hyped over Mando even in season 1 or 2. They were just thankful the show wasn't complete trash and all anyone seemed interested in was Grogu. But a cute baby gremlin, nostalgia bating, and not sucking completely can only carry a show so far.
S1 and 2 were well done m, honestly, but yeah, nostalgia and Fanservice can only carry you so far.
@@chasehedges6775 Oh yeah, I agree. S1 and S2 were decent. I wouldn't say well done, but that is a matter of preference. I was just never blown away, but it was enjoyable enough. I just never got the impression there were legions of fans for Mando/Din the way that Grogu has.
@@seriouslyrelax just stop watching it then. why be mad and continue watching? unless maybe you like it and don't want to admit it? closeted gay man vibes here
Maybe he’s a masochist.
Mando was more of a lowkey protaganist. What was interesting about him was the fact that he was an example of what an Mandalorian is like. There is a space in fiction for characters like that, and I think they achieved what they were going for quite well with Mando. They even gave him small bits of individuality by showing him being willing to bend the code for the sake of this small child. But yes, it is the kind of subtle storytelling that was never going to last in a show that has transitioned to being designed by comitee. It wasn't even perfect to begin with, just better than what came after it.
I’ve never seen someone so thoroughly destroy a brand and keep their job. It’s just astonishing
Somehow, still now as bad as KK... wait, is this stuff the product of her trying to micromanage it so she can keep trying to ride on the coattails of more successful people?
Seriously, she's contributed absolutely nothing good, and screwed up nonstop. The fact she continues to get paid millions a month is infuriating.
Joe Biden: Hold my beer
"I like making men feel uncomfortable..." - Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy
Well, be careful what you wish for Sharmeen, because the large majority of the people you need to watch the movie are men!!
She probably means that in the way of presenting men with uncomfortable truths, not literally being a masochist
@@joshbaker1581 Such as?
@@joshbaker1581Nah. Her misandry was showing.
@@joshbaker1581 She's a feminist activist Josh, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that having ideologues like her and Kennedy in charge, the movie will have a definite undertone, and not in a good way
@@joshbaker1581
She should stay in South-Central Asia to continue her - Crusade? She would do more good in her lands of origin.
After everything they’ve done to kill the franchise they’re really twisting the knife giving Rey the story we all wanted to see for Luke in the first place. I keep thinking they can’t possibly top themselves but they keep surprising me
Wait till they touch the old republic...there are a ton of rabid OR fans out there tho who really can show them what toxic means.
@@2nd_Directorate count me in.
"I'm not about to let a man steal a woman's accomplishments" meme in a nutshell.
@@2nd_Directorate Literally me. I will shamelessly bully everyone involved with ruining the OR off the internet and not feel bad about it at all.
Make Dave Filoni the President of Lucasfilm #FireKathleenKennedy
Mauler brought up a good point. Not only would I love to see a show about Mando bounty hunting instead of baby sitting, I thought that the Book of Bobba Fett would explore the scoundrel side of SW finally. But apparently at Disney no character can be grey…
The phrase "you can only milk Grogu for so long" conjured up a really terrible mental image in my head.
Star Wars and milking are a bad combination since TLJ.
The Grogu tit already dried up *before* they brought him, so much so that it'd shrunk 3 sizes by the end of Season 2.
This reminds me of a man desperate to get some girl, any girl’s pants! But he doesn’t know how to talk to women. So he’s like “Look at all the woman power I’m promoting, sleep with me ... some one!?”
Which still could be Kathleen Kennedy’s motives??!
KK is such a horrible executive producer, it’s insane
KK's motive is spite.
She's getting her revenge on what she views as forty years of supplication and submission to men she believed she was always superior to.
Her past was a walking personification of - "I was a secret Queen when I was taking orders. Now that I'm in charge we're gonna do things MY WAY! And step one is to break all oaths and promises made which got me here! Step two is to defile all that my predecessors and their fans love!"
Rey is KK’s self-insert character - that’s her motivation
@@TheMaleRei That is tthe most probale reason why KK does it this way. It is obviously not the money for her, as she has enough (via husband). It is respect she wants and is delusional enough to think she has all the right to it.
So, it reminds you of Joss Whedon?
I love how RazorFist is just sitting there laughing at everything, so giddy to make fun of this bullshit with his buddies lmao 😂
Bo Katan was fine in Clone Wars and Rebels. She had a proportionate amount of screen time compared to Anakin, Obi Wan, Padme, Ezra, Sabine, and a plethora of other characters. But in this season of Mandalorian has been the Bo Katan show, and it was not clear from the beginning that this was the purpose of this show. I don't want Din to have the Dark Sabre. But I expected him to be the main character of his own show.
To be fair, the show isn't called Din Djarin. It's just called "The Mandalorian", which I guess means it could potentially be about any mandalorian.
@@rovhalt6650 Exactly. I'm usually on board with criticisms of the bait and switch bs pulled by these new movies, but in this case it doesn't bother me. Din Djarin's narrative has run its course. Grogu is rescued, there is really nowhere to go with that character.
I think most of us agree. Din Djarin and Grogu's story has run its course. This show should have ended in S2. Give Bokatan her own and go wild with it. But they know it would flop which is why they keep doing the bait and switch for the female led stories. Most of us wanted to see bounty hunting or something in that realm. She will be doing SJW missions once she accomplishes her goal here and the viewership will drop. If they're smart, they'll end it once they take their home planet back, but we know better than that.
@@cptpepper7731 How about giving him some character before moving on from him?
@@rovhalt6650 Fucking thank you, I thought there weren't any people here that could think rationally. Whining about the woke boogeyman is getting ridiculous, don't get me wrong its there, I was fuming earlier today when I learned about the Cleopatra "documentary", but its not *everywhere* .
At this point, Kennedy is showing her true abilities, the same abilities that got her that good “reputation” in the industry… Being a Parasite…
Had she not married her husband, who got her the connections to Spielberg and Lucas, Kennedy would have stayed a secretary who barely good enough at making coffee.
You can see that in Mando season 3, that Feloni is the one in charge now, because of just how awful and cartoony the show has gotten, and he has no problems obeying Kennedy so long as he can keep pushing his fanfic characters like Ashoka and Bo-Katan, and of course Kennedy loves using females to once again steal a male characters accomplishments.
Literary Kennedy is the walking Batwoman meme of “The suit it’s literal perfection. It will be, once it suits a woman”.
Either way the last hope for Star Wars just went up in flames. The Ashoka movie is not going to fix anything, as it’s just another Feloni Fanfiction with Kennedy as a co-writer. The rest of the movies at this point are just a shotgun to the massacred crotch that used to be Star Wars.
She needs to go back when she handed coffee out😂
Imagine if a man had been afforded the advantages she has? We are expected to pretend women are eternal victims without power and advantage.
But he wears a hat, that makes him "quirky and cool." That's why he can shit all over the lore.
Evwn worse, Bob Iger did NOTHING to tackle this problem, he should be accountable for allowing these bad decisions to be made.
Correct. Filoni has turned into an inept clown.
I actually admire you guys for still holding out hope.
I knew these new films are trash.
Few people remember the hints.
Remember when Cara Dune had a fist fight with Din. .. she punched his helmet and did damage while he used a gauntleted fist on her face and they just came out even.
Uhuh... a sign.
It's a action/phantasy TV show what has aliens, space wizards and animals living in space.
If you want realistic physics and things happening, watch a documentary about fight/sports science.
So why not say that the force is actually a gravy pot in the sky that jedi drink from to gain juice powers? Maybe have some unicorns that fart rainbows powerful enough to explode the death star. Or a bounty hunter that's just a goat! Not like a space goat or anything, just... A goat.
You know the answer to all these things. Because they're nonsensical and lack any kind of internal consistency. Even stories about aliens and space wizards need to have internal rules or else why COULDN'T any of the stuff I just mentioned happen plausibly?
But you know this, and the 'it's just dumb space wizards for kids' argument is a knowingly daft argument made only because it sounds better than 'the inconsistencies appeal to me and I want them to continue'.
@@ldorman So what? She is not a cyborg or a force user, she should have hurt her hand like any normal man who would have punched the armor would.
@@ldorman Whenever people use that deflection it immediately let's everyone else know not to take them seriously, because it implies that your standards are so low that you'll clap at anything like a trained seal. No one is saying it has to be 110% pinpoint real world accurate, but some fucking consistency to help the suspension of disbelief wouldn't kill anyone.
@@coltonwhite2518 🖖
What made Zahn's original Thrawn Trilogy books so good was how a villainous Sherlock Holmes like character would do against the heroism of the main cast from the Original Trilogy. I don't think Disney is capable of that now.
Ever since Filoni got placed in charge, The Mandalorian and other Star Wars shows have become vehicles to continue to Clone Wars stories. Asoka shows up in Mando S2 and now has her own show, Bo Katan being the main character on Mando S3, Cad Bane in Boba Fett, etc. It feels like that's all he wants to do now. Just continue what made him successful
You mean they let the guy who has been making successful star eas content for 10+ years make more star wars content?
@@00spinz35 Filoni is meh, tbh
@Chase Hedges67 so meh that he made the mandalorian s1 and s2 amazing?
Words from your own mouth no less
@@00spinz35 Nice strawman.
@Gbrow160 how's it a Strawman? How can filoni be meh but also be responsible in the guy own words making g thr absolutely fantastic mando s1 and s2?
I’ve seen professional writers earnestly argue that ‘bait ‘n’ switch’ is necessary because (usually white) male characters are boring…
Now what these disingenuous ideologues are conveniently forgetting of course is that fictional characters are only as engaging (or boring) as one _writes_ them to be. Obviously.
This isn’t going to get better anytime soon. 😩
I just watched rogue one again and was reminded of what star wars could have been 😆
@@kalesmart1 now watch Andor.
@@Antibot01 Andor is a slow burner, but it was worth it.
@@AbstractM0use that show is why I get annoyed when people say everything Disney SW is shit, it's definitely not the case. As long as a project is small enough and flies under the radar it can be amazing. Sadly for Mando the show got too popular and attracted the gaze of the evil execs
Im gonna need an "early life" check on those writers.
An idea that would work 100%: Daisy Ridley's character Rey is teaching the young jedi and rebuilding the order. Then some shenanigans happen with prequel characters: Darth Jar Jar Binks is the villain of this movie. He has discovered a way into the world between worlds and that is why his character disappeared after the prequels. Anyway Rey is brought up to speed on what is happening by old Mace Windu who was rescued from his fall in Coruscant when Ahsoka Tano pulled him out while she was in the world between worlds. Basically because of the misuse of the world between worlds there is potential for the total destruction of reality. Darth Jar Jar is trying to use it to become the ruler of the galaxy. So Rey and Old Mace Windu team up to track down and defeat Darth Jar Jar. In the end Rey realizes she has to sacrifice herself to fix the timeline and she accepts her fate and the timeline is brought back to the end of episode 6 and Disney can now start over from there. Mesa just saved the Star Wars galaxy, yousa welcome.
That sounds terrible, and yet it was still better than what we got lol
Honestly, Dark Lord Jar Jar Binks would make sense as a serious villain anyway. Think about. He helped Palpatine while all along waiting for the Emperor to fail and thus set the stage for his own rise to power.
What would Rey teach them? She never learned anything. She had amazing force abilities all along and had no mentors (save for a wee bit of token tuition by Leia). She's the least qualified Jedi in the whole universe to teach.
even critical doggo is getting visibly disturbed by these recent developments
I admit that I did not see that bait and switch coming. I am a fool to believe that Mando would be the lead character for Season 3. This cruel tactic worked because it takes in past successes to shove in bad messaging to unsuspecting audiences down their throats.
My father made a mistake subscribing to Disney Plus, he didn't listen to me, yet we already have it since March 2023. Guess he doesn't care of the B.S. that's happening.
I genuinely was shocked by Mando being sidelined.
It's too bad, because Bo-Katan has a better story than Din. Just be up front about it Disney
I kinda saw it coming when I saw the absolute clown show that was book of Boba Fett, but I hoped that it wouldn't be bad, and that blinded me to the reality. The only things at Disney SW that are good are the things that fly under the radar
Filoni is a glorified fan fiction writer. He "respects the lore" only as long as it doesn't get in the way of his OCs.
Spot on, filoni is massively overhyped, 90% of what he does is mediocre at best
@@JasonGemmell And the cowboy hat doesn't make him look cool, more like a fat Milky Bar kid having a midlife crisis.
Worse.
Fan Fiction *can* be quite good - it's very rare, but such stories are out there.
Clone Wars under Feloni was shite.
And yet he carried star wars on his back with clone wars and rebels, yet his still shit weird
@@TheMaleRei so…the entirety of Clone Wars is trash? Hate to break it to you, but Filoni’s work with the Clone Wars did massive favours for Revenge of the Sith, making Anakin’s fall that much more meaningful, and Ahsoka Tano’s final Clone Wars arc is a superb piece of filmmaking and storytelling that I honestly rate above Episodes 1 and 2.
I really can’t wait for The Mandalorian season 3. This Bo Katan show was so so, but I’m excited to see Din, back in action as the main character.
That point you made about Filoni at the end is the saddest part of all this. He was supposed to be the one hope we still had to fix this mess once Kathleen Kennedy was finally fired.
But now it looks like she's here to stay and has more power than ever and Filoni's project is just as bad as everything else Disney Star Wars has shat out.
Literly every point they made they said Filoni but referenced an episode he isn't credited on. It seems they have more a bone to pick with Jon Favreau but didn't bother checking the weighting and directing credits.
@@verticalfracture Jon Favreau seems like he's just kinda here at the moment and not really doing anything. We already know the man's capable, but clearly he's not in control. After all, he is part of the trio that made the MCU happen, along side Iron Man and Nick Fury... and the only one Tony Stark didn't make a suit for...
@@verticalfracture It has sounds like Jon Favreau has had to take a back seat in the making of The Mandalorian, apparently. Rumors are going around that KK has been seriously meddling with the show since s2 and that he wants to leave now.
@@lessalazar9068 I definitely would like to see what the producer notes are but even with aggressive top-down action there is no excuse for the bad writing.
Rebels was bad and W0ke. TCW S7 was infected with W0keness too. The shoehorning of Boo-Karen as a her-o started there.
He is no savior. He cooperated with Johnson on TLJ and loved the subverting of expectations.
*This show would’ve been much better* if The New Republic was this herald of changing times.. and these bounty hunters, Mandalorians, Moff Gideon and Jedi realise they’re not aloud to run amok anymore - and their time is slowly coming to an end.. would’ve made everything more emotional.
That would be a more interesting story than Disney's sequel trilogy. But I think the main antagonists for the sequels should be the Yuuzhan Vong to keep Star Wars fresh and new, and nostalgic for EU fans.
*Critical Drinker should probably choose a more natural hair dye besides black*
@@razorback9999able That might be what Rey has to fight, since she has literally no one who can oppose her
"We've race swapped the death star"
**bends over coughing with laughter**
stop, you're killing me!
Grogu in the Robot was as ridiculous as the mopeds in Boba-Fett.
Worst thing about Taika is that he CAN write drama and CAN write impactful scenes. See e.g. JoJo Rabbit. It was amazing. But yeah, it had lots of funny scenes, if only to juxtapose with the really dramatic ones. The man CAN write, but he writes unevenly. Sometimes it works. Sometimes not.
I just don’t think he gives af.. he even said in an interview about Thor “I don’t try”
I’ve loved taika’s indie comedies. The problem is that he very clearly doesn’t respect or understand sc-fi or superheroes so he has to make everything into a joke
Yeah, people don't realize that skills aren't universally transferable. A guy who can paint Harleys doesn't automatically have the ability to paint Warhammer miniatures, because painting isn't just painting, they are different skillsets even if both are painting. Likewise, writing isn't just writing and directing isn't just directing, there are certain skills that are needed to be able to do certain types of projects, and being successful with one type of movie or show does not mean you'll be successful at a different type. People need to be picked to work on projects they're suitable for, not just picked for whatever project because they've been good at other ones.
My intro to Taika was "What We Do In The Shadows", and I still think it's great.
@@GabrielShadowArcher Exactly which is why I find it hilariously awful that the director for the rey movie has never made a fictional feature length movie ever. She's only done documentaries (very important work to be fair) but it wouldn't give her the experience for her first feature let alone star wars. Besides the documentaries her only work is 2 ms.marvel episodes which barely anyone saw. Heck even George Lucas' first movie wasn't star wars.
I follow a lot of Star Wars channels, and they’ve had to cover the Disney Canon to stay relevant. They’ve simped over everything from Rey to Book of Boba Fett and Reva from Obi Wan show. But even _THEY_ won’t talk about Mando season 3 lol
They’re blinded to nostalgia, fanservice and stupidity and shiny things.
At least the Obi-Wan show had famous characters with actual arcs (even though they didn’t make sense for the time period they were in). I feel really bad for all these Star Wars channels. They are going to die off pretty soon
@@superjlk_9538 Obi WAN Sucked!
@@superjlk_9538I’ll give the show this: It was nice seeing Ewan Mcgregor and Hayden and the girl playing Leia was adorable but otherwise the show was trash.
@@superjlk_9538 Uncle Owen was the only character who felt real and they limited his screen time for some random black lady and a pretend child version of Leia. The show could've been so much better with more focus on Luke and Obi Wan and Uncle Owen clashing over what's best for Luke. We got maybe 10 minutes of that because the force is female sh*te comes first every time.
even the Force doesn't want to be in Star Wars any more
Remember, Filoni was the one who made the Mandalorians pacifists in Clone Wars. Pacifist! Filoni was never the saviour of SW.
Filoni is such a mediocre creator. He’s not any better than Rian Johnson.
Pacifist Mandalorians? thought the whole point of Mandalorians is that they love war ?
@@samuelmyth8392 yeah, weapons are their religion and fighting is part of their creed
You guys all make a very good point and it’s this. Imagine the rich seam of stories exploring the Star Wars universe, the emotion, the excitement created from following a Mandalorian bounty hunter.
Greatest con in tv history
It’s diabolical
Nah that’s still game of thrones season 8
Close …it might be number three? Number one in my opinion was the end episode of six years of LOST. Number two would be the ending of Game of Thrones number three would be taking me a Star Wars showman that felt authentic specifically the first year of the Mandalorian, even though the premise was simple and turning it into this.
@Joe Kerry She sounds like a barrel o’laughs…
No wonder Disney/Lucasfilm hired her though as she’s obviously just their type: woman, fashionably ethnic, laughably over promoted, negligible talent and a chip on shoulder the metaphorical size of New Mexico… 😉
This combination of commentators is my dream team to listen to. I watch individual videos on all of your channels, but listening to you discuss things together is... I could do this all day.
I do take issue with comparing Picard to the old Wolverine movies. I get what the drinker’s saying, but it’s a bad comparison. The Wolverine movies were like treating yourself to a bad restaurant. The service was decent, the ambience was fine, but the food itself was subpar. When you leave your feedback, the manager seemed genuinely sorry that the meal didn’t please and works to better the experience for his next customers. Picard, on the other hand, would be like returning to an old favorite restaurant after it’s come under new management, initially liking the spruce-up it’s received under its new owners, but then noticing a few things that just seem off. The hostess glares when you stop by for your table, and she rings a waiter without saying a word. Once you’re seated, the waiters sneer at you whenever they walk by, and when you ask what the hell is going on, they just chuckle to themselves and walk away. To top it all off, you see that someone pissed in your food when they bring it out to you. After you leave your feedback, the new management resents the very idea that they didn’t improve your existence through their directly vile treatment of you, and whenever the owner is interviewed on TV, he and his interviewer just laugh at all those worthless, uneducated slobs who didn’t appreciate their nasty looks and piss soup. You can’t compare the two experiences at all. One is earnest but underwhelming, the other is intentionally disgusting and wicked to the very people that made the franchise what it is. It’s about time we stopped looking for ways to save these franchises. The people in charge can’t be convinced to return to “normal.” They hate what you like, and more importantly, they hate you. Even if they made a show of dialing things back to please their overlords and keep a shred of their fanbase, you know for certain that it’s only that: a show. There’s no sincerity there, and the moment they’re able they will return to destroying your favorite cultural icons and tormenting you because, to them, that’s why they were put on this earth. That’s their purpose. They want to bring about a new culture, one entirely different from the one you love, and they do that by breaking your culture intentionally. When you’re in an abusive relationship, you don’t try to change the other person. You get the hell out of there, call someone you trust, and never connect with the abuser again. That’s our problem right now: we’re trying to change the other person, but we can’t. They don’t want to change. Time to leave these people for good.
The Mandalorian was one of the few reasons why I got Disney+ and even bought an Disney star wars Merchandise.
But Season 3 has been so bad that I haven't even wanted to get Disney +, it was enough that I watched 3 episodes at a friend's house.
You can only use Kennedy as a skapegoat for so long.
The infestation is clearly far more expansive here as EVERY show is getting turned into a Thor love and thunder scene complete with jabba fett Vespa squad visuals.
I can’t wait to see the next season of andor, it’ll be magical.
A fish rots from the head. KK will always have the lion's share of the blame since she's in charge.
All story direction and ideas have to go through her first. If she is adamant about bo katan being the lead then they really have no choice but to play along or breach their contract.
It's crazy to me how consistently Disney is able to avoid delivering to its audience exactly what they want. Is this a problem with design by committee, crabs in a bucket, or something actually malicious? Mando was their flagship show on Disney+. It's the height of insanity. It's like they want their streaming service to fail. Mando was the one diamond in the rough of all of nuwars and they basically just killed it.
Nah that was Andow, which had great writing, excellent acting and no woke bullshit. But, oh no it has no flashy lightsabers so its not SW.
Mandalorian was allways mediocre at best, especially the writing was thin. It was their flagship show yes, but not a diamond...not even a precious stone.
@@2nd_Directorate No one cared about Andor. And honestly, why make a show about a dead character no one cared about.? Another lost opportunity Disney made not making a Dark Forces movie/show with Kyle Katarn. Mando was their flagship because it actually moved merch and got subscriptions. I never saw Andor. Maybe it was good. It's just that it's irrelevant and Disney helped make it so.
@@2nd_Directorate Andor had two problems - first, it's about the dork from Rogue One, a spin-off film. While said spin-off wasn't a bad film by any means, I had no desire to see any of the characters from it expanded.
The second problem is that it was not Star Wars in the same vein as the Original Trilogy, and even the Prequels. Andor was dark, dismal and "horrible" in the sense that there's no real hope in it. The Prequels and Originals had hope as a cornerstone of the story-telling, where even when things are going really badly, there's still hope for a brighter tomorrow as delivered by the dedicated men and women that were spear-heading those efforts. Andor's message is seemingly that no one is ever united, even in the face of a evil Galactic Empire, and that everything will suck forever, but you can try to make it suck a little less.
It's not what I want to see out of Star Wars. I want to see Wars, I want to see Jedi, I want to see Rebels vs Empire or Droids vs Clones. This is the problem with having a film franchise that's at least 50 years old, there are expectations to fulfill in terms of what the audience wants to see.
@@OKMBVideos Well, those two problems are both subjective. If it is what you felt about it, then it is what it is.
Btw, might remind you of the Ferrix funeral scene which showed us hope in spades.
What you want out of a SW movie or show is flashy battles. And you are not the audience you are just a small part of it.
I am (still) a huge SW fan but i got fed up with everything anchoring around Skywalkers and Force Users with only oh so few books and games in between which broke this.
Means for me Andor was exactly what i wanted.
@Markus Gutjahr I don't think it's unreasonable to say that there isn't much interest amongst the wider fandom in a side character from a spin-off film. This is like making a spin-off show surrounding Merry or Pippin from Lord of the Rings.
As to the point about flashy battles, etcetera - yes. That's what Star Wars is built off of. Hence the name.
Flashy battles, laser swords, the fight between good and evil. Having a dismal show that doesn't look like, sound like, or feel like Star Wars bar the usage of names and the main character results in something that isn't appealing to Star Wars fans, or the individuals looking for those elements that are endemic to what Star Wars is. People, particulalry Andor fans, seem to forget that these elements are what people are looking for in these franchises, and when they aren't there, people will definitely jump ship because they go to those franchises looking for these things. There is definitely a place for stories like Andor's in the wide Star Wars universe, but in a format that is more appealing to the wider Star Wars fanbase. If Andor wasn't labeled as Star Wars, I'd be a whole lot kinder to it.
Andor reminds me of Halo 4. Halo 1-3, Reach and arguably ODST were all military sci-fi games that were focused on combined arms and fighting as part of a larger military.
Then 343 came along and decided that was too mainstream, so they basically removed the military sci-fi aspects almost entirely and made it entirely focused on two characters and a strong focus on melodrama. Funny, that Halo 4 was basically the death of the Halo franchise.
The Simpalorian has turned into Jon "Muh Kween!/I Dun Wannit!" Snow.
Lucasfilth is the guy in a van telling you there's candy & a puppy in the van, and you can enjoy both if you get in.
Anyone can be Spiderman, anyone can wear the Bat Suit, anyone can be the Mandalorian - sensing a dimwitted Disney pattern here…
Boycott “Star Wars”
Boycott The M-She-U
Destroy The WOKE
@Joe Kerry ….pretty sure that was done on purpose.
RIP STARWARS
You know, if you can't think of something original, maybe don't comment? This phrase is spammed everywhere.
@@Сайтамен …probably because we need to rid entertainment & life from WOKE fools like YOU🫡
@@Сайтамен cringe
Amen, they ain’t getting my money anymore.
Good point. Give Bo her own show! That way you can focus on the whole thing about the blade, two factions and Mandalore. Leaving us with a show about DIn/Mando and Grogu.
Ah, she co-chaired a World Economic Forum event.
Makes sense.
Rage had a few one liners that were so good and went over everyone’s heads! The race swapping the Death Star line fell like a rock in water, that was hilarious!
You know what’s crazy? The whole reason Din went to bathe in the sacred waters was because he didn’t feel worthy wielding the Darksaber. After episode 2 this season should’ve been focused on Din learning to wield the Darksaber with Bo Katan teaching him and slowly gaining confidence and respect for becoming the ruler of Mandalore. If the entire season was Din going to bathe in the waters and then going back and gaining the respect of his own clan, then going out to recruit the Nite Owls, to reclaiming Mandalore while becoming close to Bo Katan and developing some sort of closer relationship with her which leads to her character development and not anything else it could’ve been a somewhat better show. Also Grogu should’ve continued to master the force while being with Mando. They could’ve shown him throughout the season trying to use Beast Control or some other force power and failing which would then tie into the finale with him taming the Mythosaur. There could’ve been so many ways to make this show astronomically better but instead they spent an entire episode on two bad guys that we do not care about and also spent an episode on celebrity cameo filler. Give in mind that this season is eight episodes and they’ve already wasted one fourth of it. They could’ve had an episode showing us how Mof Gideon escaped or where he was while everything else was happening, they could’ve given us an episode setting up the current relationship with Din and Bo, They could’ve given us another imperial base raid episode or brought back Bill Burr’s character to do something! Anything than the last two episodes that had some sort of importance to the story would’ve been better than the other two episodes.
My friend continues to be a Disney fan and watch this show. I brought up that BK is the main character now and brought up a lot of the disappointing plot elements. He claimed that there was some romantic relationship being built between Mando and BK…I instantly bet him $20 that in the remaining three episodes there will be not one kiss or shred of romance between BK and Mando because I know modern Disney is never going to saddle their female lead with something like a relationship. Wish my friend could have bet more!
@@nrossetti2046 Yep, one more episode left and Din hasn't even friendzoned himself, but instead lapdogged himself, which is even further removed from a romantic relationship
Bo is a dead weight to the whole show. Nobody cares about her. Nobody started to watch the series for her, she wasn´t even in it in S1.
It is painfully obvious where they had to insert her into the script.
Like when everyone was like "Why were they waiting through the night to save the boy?" Because KK wanted Booo Mary Sue getting praised by others and having the honor of staying by the fire when they were eating.
Or why is she the only one besides Din who has a ship? How did the Mandos get on that planet? Did they took a taxi and killed the driver? It is obvious there was supposed to be a second, larger ship which can contain a group of Mandos.
When Din gave the motivation speech to convince the clan to help Karga and move to Nevarro, Paz said Din and Booo wanted to help Karga. But Booo said nothing, it was Din´s speech, because original script was written only for him and Paz for that scene.
The investigation of droid attacks should have been done by Cara (because she is a cop) and Din. This proves Booo wasn´t supposed to be in that episode at all and Din was supposed to fight that m0r0n in blue armor.
He was also supposed to see the mythosaur in the mines after taking bath.
I´m convinced Favreau´s original idea was to let Booo finally die in the bombing of her castle, understanding she is highly unpopular. But Furloni can´t let go of his crappy fanfic character and KK wanted grrrrl power.
There were rumours about 2 years ago Pedro will remove his helmet more often in S3. There was an interview where Pedro talked about it. It was on RUclips somewhere.
That would make sense if his story from the underdog to the ruler was finished as originally planned. It was all supposed to lead to the clans uniting with one basic creed for all of them. So getting rid of the helmet rule would make sense, and who else would be the one to establish it than Din? He met Mandos from other clan and Boba.
They sidelined him and put Booo on his rightful and earned place as someone who "walked both worlds". OMG! Din "walked both worlds" too, and some more. He was the one who accepted Boba as worthy of his armor, not Booo.
She has not apologized yet.
'They will die a death that will last millennia, until all that remains is their code, their history and, in the end, the shell of their armour upon the shell of a man too easily slain by Jedi.'
-Kreia
Nihilistic prediction it may have been, but a fitting and poignant end for space samurai.
I made the mistake of being ill and incredibly bored and finally watching (via some nice oceangoing chap with an eyepatch and a parrot) the most recent Mandalorian episode, and it felt like it had been written for five year olds. Actually, scratch that, it felt like it had been written *by* five year olds. It's basically live action Rebels at this point.
Because Filoni has the main word now and KK is his backup. Have you seen how sad Favreau looked at the SW celebration? He had some logical, consistent story in his head but it got thrown away for agenda.
Taika seems obsessed with humor that references the meta of what he is writing.
Giving Rey another movie is great! Think of the possibilities! Disney could spend $500m on it and we can all go to the theatre and watch something else!
OOOOOOOOO you got my boy razorfist on here ! hell yeah the master of history, metal, and has a way with words that would make even the critical drinker blush
Taika is the equivalent to that one annoying brother or friend who, when you’re trying to play with your toys in a serious way, he comes in with his own story and makes the toys do unrealistic things and trying to be funny by just slapping the toys together thinking that’s how fighting works.
Weekend at Bernies is exactly what star wars is at this point - Favreau and Feloni propping up its corpse but they can't disguise the rot.
At this point, the only thing that could even remotely motivate me to start watching again would be the Yuuzhan Vong entering the picture and beginning a great purge to hunt down and massacre every solitary living thing in the Disney Star Wars universe...maybe.
The Drinker......and Razorfist......priceless there
Sounds to me like Mauler willed the new Ray movie into existence. Blame Mauler! 😂
The irony. This clip's advert was the mandalorian season 3 Disney+. Got to love it
Lmfao "They've race swapped the Death Star" the absolute mad lad, LiZZo Blown the FucI< out!
Even cute marketing opportunity bailed on Din.
I was saying it about halfway into this season; “The Mandalorian” was just a Trojan Horse for a Bo Katan series this time around. They obviously didn’t have confidence people would care about a Bo Katan series, so they cloaked it as something else.
I’ve been far more skeptical than many about Feloni for a long time now. I think I see that Feloni doesn’t want to continue in the footsteps of the OT. Feloni is far more interested in the Feloniverse led by characters such as Ahsoka Tano, Bo Katan, and Sabine Wren. So much for all the rumors about Kathleen Kennedy not getting her way. “The Force” is now obviously female, just like she told us all along.
Yep. DF is as bad and w0ke as KK. Nobody cares about those awful characters. Only Ahsoka is popular, but he will manage to ruin her too. Wait, he already did that when she selectively forgot Boo-Karen tried to murder her and torched villagers.
Need more input from the Critical Doggo. She can't keep getting away with coming on these streams and not adding anything
Shes the animal version of X Ray Girl. No offence to X Ray Girl, I like her, she just seems shy in the big groups.
They might as well not include her at all if she isn't going to actively participate in the discussion
@@Adam-sd2ow to be fair to X Ray Girl, she's actually doing work while everyone's talking. You can see her moving between tasks, so it's not like she's 100% in the conversation as a participant.
She's the star of the show. What are you on about?!
WEF directs Star Wars. What a time to be alive.
The Mandalorian has become The Bocalorian season 3. Like the Mandalorian in BoB and Reva in Kenobi before her Bo Katan has now hijacked The Mandolrian.
So the mandalorian is now about the mandalorian as opposed to thr mandalorian?
@@00spinz35 What a stupid argument. The show is called THE Mandalorian, not "Mandalorians". There's absolutely no excuse for randomly switching the main character.
@Gbrow160 by that logic there should be no other mandalorians in the show at all because it's called THE mandalorian not the mandalorians and then there'd be like what only 10% of the content left after that maybe?
@@00spinz35 Another strawman. I'm saying that other Mandalorians shouldn't TAKE OVER the show as the main characters.
@@00spinz35 You're being disingenuous and you know it. The show was clearly about THE Mandalorian in the form of Din Djarin from day one. He appeared in the majority of episodes, and even when other Mandalorians were on-screen, the story followed Din, not the other Mandos. You can have other Mandos, but we're focused on THE Mandalorian, in the form of Din.
Shifting focus from THE Mandalorian to Bo Katan is not want the fans want and not what the show is about. If it was called The Mandalorians and followed the struggles of the group of Mandalorians instead of just one character, I'd be more forgiving.
After seeing the latest episode of Mandalorian, I can't say I'm terribly excited about the direction Ahsoka and things afterwards are headed. They are clearly preparing to show the origins of the First Order which we've already seen firsthand by introducing Brendol Hux and his "Project Necromancer" as well as the first version of the Preatorian guards who wear pieces of future First Order Stormtrooper armor, just like the Imperial Super Commandos. I predict this upcoming film which will supposedly wrap up everything that began with Mandalorian season 1 will basically be a prequel to Force Awakens. And the upcoming Rey movie will surely include a much older Ahsoka and Grogu as cameos because LFL seems to want to turn Star Wars into the MCU.
I liked S1 and S2 and was kinda expecting this after seeing Boba Fett be more about Fenic Shand and Obi Wan be about Reva.
For real. It always defaults to the female lead.
The perfect example of what taika did with the last thor movie is Vince Russo and WCW. When he was with the WWF he would suggest stuff and Vince had the last word of what made it to TV and PPV and that led to the greatest era of wrestling The Attitude Era and the start of the Monday night wars but he jumped ship to the WCW and was completely in charge and control and what happened there with him in charge is legendary with things like Judy Bagwell on a pole match and Viagra on a pole match. Oh and let’s not forget Oklahoma which was a guy imitating and taking the piss out of Jim Ross who was suffering with Bells Palsy at the time.. basically just because someone has a few good ideas you don’t let them be in charge until they’ve proved themselves on a way smaller scale
Disney wont give Bo-Katan her own tv show because they know no one is even going to watch her. But using Mando’s show to be telling her broken ass story that no one gives two shits about, yeah sure!! Let’s do that! It’s the only way for Ms. Kathleen to continue spreading the love and to bring “the message” into the world. Ms. Kennedy was probably like: “If Jon Favreau gives, we shall take! It’s in the genre equality rule to share everything with each other. It’s in our right to take what’s ours, even if it’s not ours to take!”.
Think about this. If Bo-Katan was a man, they wouldn’t have casted him to replace Mando, since Mando’s the better bounty hunter or the better man, right? I mean we all know what happened to Boba Fett, no one cared. But if Bo-Katan was a woman!!! Sure. Why not?! 🤬💣💥🔥🖕🏼. Let’s dig a grave and throw Mando and Grogu in there, and let’s start making this about Bo-Katan instead. What!?!?! It makes me sick, honestly.
But honestly now I wouldn’t mind to see if Jon F. was being paid a lot to work on his own stuff with Din and Grogu without Kathleen interfering, separately from possibly another show with Bo! I mean I would watch both. Her story can be about uniting all mandalorians, and riding the dinosaur.. yeah sure!😂 No matter how much I hate that idea😫😤.. but let Mando be Mando doing his bounty hunter missions, and teaching Grogu to find his path through the force and all that! And to actually lead other mandalorians into battle and to be considered a fierce warrior and leader who actually walks the way regardless of bathing in the waters or not. Not like Bo a hypocrite person that walks both ways…. now that I think about it, It makes me jump off a building, man! a.k.a im Kermit the frog! They should honestly remove all the posters and advertisements with Mando and grogu in all cities of the Earth with democracy and turn them into Bo-Katan starring in “The Mandalorian” since it’s her show now and she’s the main role. I promise you if that happens in season 4, people will forget this tv series even existed. Or just claim that the mandalorian lasted for only two seasons. And like Drinker says, I can’t wait for that to happen! Muhahahah
Agreed! 👍🏼
STRONG WAHMEN 💪
I would have given a Bo-Katan show a chance. It would have been just as disappointing as Book of Bob A. Fett, but I still would have given it a chance.
Somehow Palentine has returned....again!!
And the newest Star Wars director saying she wants to make men uncomfortable and to see why they need to change. 🙄😳
Does she think it's something new?
@@Сайтамен I doubt it. Just jumping on the trend if anything I'd wager.
Holy shit, Razor, MauLer, Drinker, Platoon… my four favorite reviewers all in one place!!
"Maybe the REAL Mandalorian are the friends we made along the way." - Razorfist
I caught that one during the stream and it STILL has me laughing!
The Little Platoon guy speaks very well. I respect that.
"Race swapped the death star" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm still holding out for the one scene where Bo-Katan hands back the Dark Sabre to Din and says, "I may have the lineage, but you are the true Mandalorian. You don't follow me. I'll follow you."
"I don't want it. I don't seek power."
"Yes. This is the way."
I mean it's not inconceivable right? Bo Katan was shown how to be a true Mandalorian by Din, his diplomatic skills are better (routinely shown by how he negotiates with non-mandalorians), and the unifying force between the clans wasn't her but Din (and the armourer).
His words, brief as they are, actually convince people. It wasn't Bo-Katan winning a fight that brought the clans together. It was Din Djarin telling a story.
There's enough there to make it happen... I hope.
Im starting to think that Bo Katan was meant to be in the Rangers of the New Republic but when that show got cancelled they put Bo Katan into The Mandalorian instead and The Mandalorian was supposed to end at the end of season 2 but was kept going because of Grogu which is a charterer that audiences might now be getting bored with which could be one of the reasons why audiences are now lower than previous seasons.
Something tells me the fat Asian pilot might meet another dude trapped on a planet for an over an hour of gayness episode 🤣
The writers certainly are bored with him because he's mostly a set piece and has done an amount of things I can count on 1 hand spread throughout the season: got Bo Katan to save Din, entertained aristocrats so the side quest could happen, broke up a fight, and got into a mech for shenanigans
She was originally supposed to be killed by Ahsoka in TCW many years ago.
I was going to say that Waitiki wrote and directed The Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Jojo Rabbit, and What We Do in the Shadows, but upon closer inspection he adapted books for the first two, and co-wrote WWDITS with Jemaine Clement. So yeah, there really does seem to be evidence that he can't do it all on his own.
Bo-Katan has character? Bo-Katan ist just Starbuck with some armor. It's basically generic Katee Sackhoff.
I just realized; by watching the weekly reviews of the mando S3, I don't have to actually watch it. That does save a lot of time in life.
I've liked Bo-Katan since the Clone Wars. I just don't understand why they simply didn't start the show with her if it was going to become all about her.
I do like her character even in this show, but I am maybe biased because I do like Katee Sackhoff. What I don't like is that her character takes over The Mandalorian who should be the hero in this show.
I mean, he kinda is, but not how I expect it; and some episodes just feel like fillers as they don't have any decent ideas it seems.
Because it's not about giving a woman a show. It's about a woman taking something away from a man.
It’s been awhile since I’ve watched clone wars, but wasn’t she a bit more morally ambiguous than what’s portrayed in mando?
@@kyriss12 She started out as a leader in the Death Watch involved in terrorist attacks and fighting against the Jedi.
So glad i didnt waste any more time after season 2. Cheers drinker 🍻