Unfortunately they haven’t eliminated their audience. Hypocritical nerds and the social media mob keep showing up regardless and then have the nerve to be shocked about how crap the finished product is. I think I represent the everyday guy who just wants to see a god film. Topgun Maverick was a great because the people making it had passion, vision, talent, experience, and no bitterness or hatred for their audience like the woke mob do.
I can see Emily Blunt's point considering her character in 'Edge of Tomorrow' is the absolute epitome of what a well written, strong, female lead can be. She knows exactly what the level and standard should be, not this "let's just give women all the traits, powers, characteristics of men and call it a day" BS.
She was a great character in that movie. Well acted but also a well written character. Knows when she needs help and isn't afraid to ask for it, even as competent as she otherwise is.
They did not eliminate all male heroes. Here is the list of all the male heroes still in the mcu. Spider-man Doctor Strange Thor Hulk Daredevil Deadpool Falcon Winter Soldier Star Lord Shang Chi Ant man Moon knight Werewolf Nick Fury Loki Blade They just introduced a few women lead heroes because for 3 phases, there were none other than captain marvel. Iron Heart Captain Marvel MsMarvel SheHulk Wasp Cersy Yelena Shuri Oh no 8 women!! Ewwww. I want penises only on the mcu!
@@prestigiorebelde Your list is not correct and several don't even exist like Falcon?? You meant POC Captain America. Spiderman - half black/half latinX. Hule is replaced by stronger female version. Thor is female now, Loki is basically replaced by female Loki and you listed many they aren't even on screen or haven't joined MCU yet. Shuri- you mean Black Panther?
@@prestigiorebelde i bet you think your the REAL hero... talk about a straw man argument, all those male characters have been completely destroyed and all those female characters have been "objectified" in the sense they arent even people anymore.. its not the NUMBERS, its how they are handled... but by all means, keep saving the world, you guys are doing a bang up job...
@@prestigiorebelde do you really want me to go thru your list? Loki? Thor? Moon Knight? Hulk? i could keep going but ill stop there.. all destroyed for a narrative that these characters were not created/ designed for... just stop...its not the lack of penises people hate, its the way in which characters and their world are presented... but no, im sure everyone who disagrees with you is just another incel nazee, and you are the only "smart" person around...
@@prestigiorebelde now name one unique personality and characteristic, flaw that makes the character interesting Out of those eight so called good written heroines if not ANY of the female superheroes
So I’m a 44 year old woman… one of my fav movies of all time is “field of dreams” but according to mainstream media I shouldn’t love this movie cause I can’t “see myself” in it! I’m not a 30 something year old man who lost his dad. But I can relate to the human emotions of it. I tear up every time. Human emotion does not depend on “seeing yourself” it’s something we can all relate to. And it’s something modern movies have forgotten
There's the superficial "see myself" that goes only skin deep. It's so throw away because there is no human element or character growth underneath the flesh. It's a series of check marks that is so obvious and so robotic that most people just roll their eyes and look elsewhere for depth of concepts and feelings. Then there's the "see myself" in terms of shared experiences. Field of Dreams touches that part that comes from sports nostalgia (baseball or softball), parent and child dynamics, and one's dreams at different stages of aging. It wasn't my favorite movie as my school system used it every time there was a substitute teacher. Kinda soured the taste of it a bit. But damn does it stick with you due to those concepts. And I'm a 39 year old woman so I get what you're saying. I can relate as my Dad used to play baseball with those oversized plastic ball and bat sets with me when I was little. So I know how it feels to want to share that experience of spending time with the ones you love just playing ball. I don't need a woman in Kevin Costner's shoes to know how the character is feeling.
One of my all time favorite movies is Sister Act I and II. Even though I'm neither female nor black and I'm not even a religios person. So does that mean I'm not supposed to watch these movies?
"Dances With Wolves" is probably my all-time favorite. I've never been on an isolated post at Fort Wagner or whatever, I've never tamed a wolf, and I've never been on a wagon. However, I HAVE been a fight choreographer, competitive saber fencer, actor, instructor, and I'm also a published author. You don't have to "be" the main character of a story to resonate with their struggles. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
Sarah Connor in T and T2 is the perfect example of strong female character building done right, or Ripley in Alien, to a lesser extent. Both decades ago.
because they where flawed. in particular sarah connor, thats what made her compelling. hollywoke just produce trash maden from trash writers. its a ideologue platform thats all. stop talking about stop watching it stop giving a fuck.
Everybody keeps talking about Ripley and Connor, but about Agent Starling from Silence of the Lambs and Laurna Cole from Lethal Weapon 3 & 4? They are good underrated female action characters.
Until your money is replaced by Central Bank Digital Currency which controls and tracks what you're allowed to spend it on. "Citizen, you appear to have watched too many movies with a low ESG score in a row. That's a big yikes from us dog. Please select an approved movie from the following list while we assign you a police visit to unpack this and check your thinking."
@@VallornDeathblade Other way: citizen, I see you have not been to see she hulk and wakanda forever yet, if you do not wish to be deducted 100 social credit points you will need to go see them both within the next 7 days. Have a nice day and remember big brother loves you.
We actually got to see her progression in that movie and in every fight she got hurt she didn’t just whoop ass just like Ripley we see her go from scared and helpless to brave and relentless
ya know, thinking about it, most modern strong female characters can't even hold a candle to the female badasses in Kill Bill, even the kinda one-note Elle.
On the Emily Blunt comment it made me think that the problem isn't that there can't be a strong female lead but that the story is made around the concept of telling the audience how strong she is. Also the writers don't understand that strong female doesn't mean strong masculine female.
Emily Blunt is currently starring in The English, where she plays Lady Cornelia, who is indeed strong but also very flawed and who makes many mistakes. Watching Cornelia learning and growing and trying and failing makes the show very interesting. I just finished Season 1 and I highly recommend the show.
they think having a smug character is all it takes to be a strong female character which is ironic since smug male characters in movies are the most hatred.
Why does relatability mean good character work? Making a character relatable liberates them of nuance and coolness factor. The average movie goers is just a unkept, primitive and unintelligent nihilist who don’t take anything seriously. We don’t always need underdog stories. Now I only see it as a cheap and uninteresting way of manufacturing drama.
@@SoyboyPeter The heroes journey is a tried and tested formula for writing a story. A good story often involves seeing a character discover something essential that he or she is missing at the beginning of the story. While the main character does not always have to be an underdog, having a Mary Sue as the title character is a sure way to tell a horrible story because the character doesn't need anything and learn anything. Jessica Jones is a cool and nuanced character. She has a quick wit and is a PI. She likes to be left alone for the most part, but she has genuine concerns for others. She does not want to be a hero, but she always makes the right choice when times are difficult. As a man, I have nothing in common with Jessica, but I can relate to her because her wants and needs are well developed.
@@SoyboyPeter The answer is obvious. No one is perfect and everyone has flaws so seeing another character with real flaws is easily relatable. The perfect example of crap character is Rey Palpatine. She was boring AF and with her as the main protagonist, the sequel trilogy sucked. The toy figures of her and Rose never sold. They didn't even sell well at major discounts. Nobody wanted that crap.
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. - 1984
I’m happy they replaced every single male character. Honestly, I am. Let’s swing that pendulum to maximum female support. And when every single one of those female only character projects fails to bring in the audiences we will be waiting. I’m going to quote one of my favourite male characters. The movie executives that turned their backs on male audiences will say “save us” and I’ll whisper “no” -Rorschach (the watchmen)
the main problem i have with how the female characters are made is how O.P they are. take Luke and Rey. there stories are almost exactly the same. but where Luke barely survives each fight Rey wins them all easily. Luke barely manages to cut off the Wampa's arm and then he runs away. that look of abject fear right after he cuts off the Wampa's arm shows that yeah he might be able to kill it easily but he's so scared of it that he won't risk it. that's 1 of the most human and relatable moments i've ever seen. in ROTJ he barely survives against the rancor. at every step of his journey he almost dies and only just manages to scrape by. pan over to Rey who wins her first ever lightsaber fight against a man who's spent more years than she's lived training with a lightsaber and honing his skills. the ease of which the female characters go through their journey and "trials" is insultingly easy. there's no actual struggle they're just that good. it's O.P Fanfiction levels of stupid. where a character is perfect at everything and can do things so much better than anyone else despite the complete impossibility of that. Hawkeye show anyone? Iron Man 1. Tony barely wins against Obidiah and that requires him to cheat by using the Arc Reactor to fry him in his suit. Iron Man 2. he AND Rhodey lose to Vanko and only using a cheat move beat him. Iron Man 3. "the Mandarin" destroys multiple Iron Man suits before Pepper hits him from behind and he falls to his death. at every stage Tony this awesome badass character barely pulls out a win. the same for every male character. they all suffer and struggle and only barely eke out a win. but the women just do it so easily and with no struggle. again it's shitty fanfiction imagine trying to convince the world that with over what? 70 years of movies and shows? that there's never been strong female characters before. and they keep trying this same shit. for the last 15 years they've continuously acted as if their female character is the first strong one. or this gay character is the first of whatever..................again 70 years of movies and shows and you expect people to believe you're shattering glass ceilings? remember when entertainment was about ENTERTAINING? can we go back to that? i'm sick of watching propaganda. because that's what this shit is.
you don’t get it. They don’t want entertainment, they apply the skills they learned in college writing class. It’s the combination of people that follow the mainstream line sheep, but because they went to college they think they’re superior to everyone else and it’s their mission to get the public into the right think. In those classes propaganda is wanted even necessary for good grades. You don’t get graded for individual ideas or clever stories, it’s about how you can can take any given topic and turn it into supposedly mainstream propaganda. That’s literally how writing classes work and now they’re thinking it applies in the real world, explains also why they react confused, angry to the criticism, they think the critiques are wrong because they still believe in what their college professor told them.
it is the writers and ideologues projecting their narcissism and spite and envy through their marysues in their "reimagining" and post modern woketainment
It’s borderline disrespectful and pandering to women to say you’re perfect the way you are, you have absolutely no flaws to overcome and will succeed in any situation no matter how prepared you are for that situation or not.
Them phasing out men and white people from most commercials (and ads) on many channels I've seen shows how heavy the propaganda is. So many products and companies yet nearly all are doing it.
My argument is that Thanos won in Infinity War and Endgame was just a fever dream by Captain America, who couldn't accept reality, which is why it ends with him time hopping with the Infinity Stones and then going back in time to grow old with Peggy.
Fans: “We want to see more of Peggy Carter. Please give us Agent Carter season 3.” Marvel: *Canceled Agent Carter season 3 and turned Peggy into Captain America ripoff who died in the stupidest way possible* OG Peggy Carter is known for the balance between brawns and brain. She combined her intelligence and espionage skill to get things done and is very relatable. Phase 4 Peggy Carter is this big buffed steroid muscular lady (technically Steve, but woman) who mainly uses her brawn more than brain and barely has personality. And now people mainly remember her for “I can do this all day”. This is how Marvel respected her character by the way.
While Agents of Shield kind of spiraled in on itself and became impossible to follow, I did always like how Agent Carter treated all of its characters including its villains and its supporting cast.
@@VallornDeathblade Shame it actually got good and exciting after season one/yawn. But that's OK, the whole point of creating a shared universe is not all shows, are for everyone. But their will be one for someone. (God that sounded camp, but I think you get what I mean.)
That is exactly why I appreciate that AoS is keeping itself far away from this mess... Peggy, Daniel, Daisy, Melinda, Phil, and the rest of ABC Marvel's characters are already well-written characters and better off without being pulled into M-She-U...
Ripely was a cool character. She listens to people who know more than her like doctors, soldiers, and even the corporate people. She doesn’t just “know everything about everything.” Even the way she uses the weaponry at the end of Aliens “looks” like how someone would use it as a total newbie. She’s straining and scared but also incredibly brave. It really makes the film look more authentic and believable than what we see today where so much relating to “strong female characters” is unearned. By the way Ripley still had her strengths- she was a pilot and could also do the hauling with the exoskeleton. She wasn’t amazing at everything in life which means other characters could actually be important too.
She also was resourceful and great at finding the Not so obvious solution. Trapped in a Medical Bay with Windows that won't Break with 2 face huggers? Set off the Fire alarm to alert the other marines to the room. Have a Pulse Rifle and Flamethrower? Tape them together.
"Characters are unisex and can be played by either gender". That's in the note from Alien script. The scriptwriters wrote Ripley and Ellen could have Alan. But Sigourney Weaver nailed that role and made the character her own. She juggles between supporting her captain and managing the unionized crew, with hints of "I'm not paid enough for this shit" that brings reality to the settings. She embodies the human element struggling to fit into the works of an uncaring company, torn between her duties as a second in command and as a crewmate. (Her orders vs the captain's or bishop's, her prioritizing the crew vs "crew expendable") That is directly relatable to a number of viewers and brings an element of "blue collars in space" that other Sci-Fi franchises never had. And when the alien threat appears, she doesn't magically becomes the Hero because vagina, she's just as scared as the rest of them. But she rises up to the challenge and in doing so becomes the Hero. "Heroism starts at the lowest point." Mary-sue writers have never learned that.
Indeed her actions emerge from a feminine side of protection from care for the cat and the girl, rather than a masculine side of aggressiveness where protection is a bit a consequence of being physically stronger, a masculine trait that looks unbelievable in these angry small actresses fighting to prove themselves stronger than men.
I just watched gremlins, and Billy's mom is a f*&%ing boss. She's left alone in a house with 5 gremlins and blends 1, stabs another to death, and blows a third up in the microwave in a few minutes. Yes, she gets saved by Billy as a fourth one attacks her. Kate is also clever, figuring out on her own that the gremlins don't like light and using the flash on her polaroid to almost get free. Billy does save her, but at the end of the movie, Billy is saved by her when she finds the lights (and then by Gizmo). The point is in that movie: 1) The mom definitely has the coolest kill streak of anyone period and 2) everyone needs help sometimes and 3) the women hold their own as much as anyone in the movie. The idea that feminism now has its day with junk like Captain Marvel is ridiculous. There have been strong women for decades, the difference now is that the women are literally written as gender-swapped men (the writer of Captain Marvel said the character she wrote was inspired by a male fighter pilot).
Exactly! I was actually thinking one day about the character of Marion from Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark. How it would be easy to dismiss her as just another damsel in distress for Indy to save, but when you really think about it, she isn't. She's tough as nails from the start. She orchestrates her own escape, and would have gotten away with it if it, too, if it hadn't been for those dang Not-sees (deliberate misspelling to avoid comment ban). In fact, by the end, Indy never rescues her. Both she and Indy are in hot water and it's only by a literal act of God that they get saved. I'm not a big fan of the fourth Indy movie, but I do love that not only does Marion return, she's the one Indy marries at the end.
Feminism is about equality. Imperfect female characters who also have strong traits and qualities is feminist. Perfect women who can do no wrong isn’t feminist, that’s female supremacist. Some people have taken feminism too far to go past saying women are equal to men to saying women are better than men, and that’s naturally offensive and confusing to a lot of people.
@@ErikDayne Yeah, a helpful rule of thumb when dealing with people is asking whether their views and/or actions are distinguishable from someone who's just clout- or power-chasing. While there's a bunch of people who may call themselves (or even see themselves as feminists) there words and actions are only concerned with "equality" when they feel their side is behind. Whenever their side is ahead, they celebrate and/or push for bigger disparities rather than seeking equality. This goes for pretty much any identity group, and the behavior is indistinguishable from that of a sociopath using the language of equality when convenient to get what they want.
Hah, loved that movie! It gave me nightmares but I absolutely loved it! Also yeah Billy’s mom is a TRUE example of actual female empowerment, as is Kate as well as being a TRUE strong female character and how to ACTUALLY do it right, versus…ya know…make her just strong for the sake of “le strong female hue hue hue”
You put all those strong women in a room and you almost have one entire personality.... Nah, it's just the same half a personality shared by all of them.
@@pete3011 Some have issues with men while others "only" have daddy issues, some are bitter and miserable while others are only bitter. There's a great variety, diversity even. Depends on the psychology of the specific self-inserting "writer".
My wife and daughters were all in for the unity saga. After the infinity saga we watched some of the Disney plus marvel exclusives but we’re increasingly unimpressed.
Mcu already had great female characters that everyone loved. Black widow, Carter, gamora, nebula, and Jessica Jones had massive success on netflix. Everyone was fine with it because it wasn't forced
It didn't remove male characters to replace them with female characters. They were their own characters. They just don't like to compete for the limelight. The next step is to bring back all the original male characters but having them identify as female. Then they'll get rid of all the genetic females. Now that's progress. Just like real life. Now how's feminism working out for them?
@@ScottCleve33 my point isn't that they have replaced the male characters, my point was that there were loads of excellently written female characters that weren't forcibly strong Mary sues that were all already perfect but just needed to realise it.
Yeah, but there's no way in hell that Drinker is going to admit that. His audience has WAY too big of a hate boner for female protagonists unless it's Ellen Ripley (and even then, I think that last one is only due to nostalgia goggles)
@@mindshuffler3332 quite the opposite. Nobody had a problem with the original ones... including drinker.... because they weren't forced Mary sues. The new batch aren't well written. At all
That point about Wakanda Forever not having a proper main character is something I've noticed about most of these modern shows and movies. Star Wars 7-8-9, Rings of Power, Picard, Halo, etc. They all have a diverse group of protagonists, but no single character ever manages to stand out from the crowd to take the lead. So instead of a great hero boldly guiding the story, you just get a bunch of sidekicks stumbling around doing nothing. It feels like each writer has a different favorite character, and they each think their character deserves to be the star, so they can't ever agree on who should take the lead. So instead, no one gets to lead, because equality! Its like trying to play D&D without a DM, where every player wants to make their character the center of attention, and make sure everything always favors them over all else. And because they don't have that central authority to keep everything organized, it just ends up making a mess where nothing cool can ever happen.
Hollywood writers also have no backgrounds in classical literature, storytelling, dramatic structure, character archetypes, and literary techniques. And why not? Simple; it's "beneath them". They don't need to study Rostand, Goldman, Shakespeare, Stoppard, Moliere nor any other "old hacks". Nope. They're already perfect. Just like their characters. 🙄 --an award-winning, self-published author 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
1:50 - I first noticed that in the first Black Panther movie. T'Challa could accomplish almost nothing with out a group of women around to support him or rescue him.
I completely agree with Emily Blunt. I get a violent physical reaction to the "strong, independent, don't need no man" May Sue Karenning. It's gross and boring. A 12 year old boy, who placed 72nd in the boys field track, won 1st place in the girls competition. For the love of reality, can we please stop the insanity? 🙃
@Rich Smith "Adults went easy on kids so they didn't feel bad about beating them" Love this frequently quoted incel meme. What's your next example, the case of one country's Survivor season where it was a male team and a female team as "proof" when Survivor is a scripted reality TV show where contestants are chosen for whatever personalities will cause the most entertainment and drama?
@@MagcargoMan how about the last Olympics then? You know, the one with the mixed relay events. Absolutely none of those teams picked underperforming women, yet we see the performance difference. Look at all the sports outside of sailing and equestrian events. See a pattern? And in sailing and equestrian events there is a rough parity. Why?
@@ScottCleve33 Explains THIS line in Black Widow: "With you, an Avenger under my control, I can finally come out of the shadows using the only natural resource that the world has too much of. Girls."
I adore how innocent Mauler was. I am wondering if there is a chance of pendulum swinging back, you know, going back to focus on good writing first and allowing a serious moment to be serious without ruining it with a bad quip. And would it even matter? I don't want to go back to the franchise that abandoned me, and then called me a racist sexist for not caring about it anymore.
I don't know Bartek, I think it depends on how much you loved the franchise, "your" franchise. Would you believe any of them modern boolshitwood filmmakers if they've said "okay enough with the bullshit, we're revamping this series yet again and going back to roots"? I don't think this has happened yet anywhere, so I would probably pass. Just let it die, and remember the good times...
If they didn't have to play politics they could of easily created a movie that focused on Shuri & M'Baku fighting for the throne. Shuri not wanting the job but her mother forcing her into it and M'Baku getting resistance from the other tribes because they were afraid of what he might do. Than comes Namor to united the tribes. M'Baku learns to temper his agresson with wisdom and Shuri learns that you need to answer the call. You could even introduce a real romance into the MCU.
They completely erased a big character out of the mcu. Black panther is pretty popular and they replace him with a female version of him which obviously was never not even close to being popular to tchalla. The female versions of male characters are never as popular as the male counterparts. They should have just recasted tchalla. It wouldn't be a sign of disrespect to recast the role.
The funny thing is that the female counterpart goes all the way back to Mythology. Two genders having the same "powers" is the basis for many comic and heroic figures, but the key was that males and females were/are innately different and the female version would be interesting because off that difference, and would not be a replacement but an addition. The current movieverse cannot do that because that would acknowledge that the two genders bring something different to the table. Best example is the Doctor Fate comics run, where both Kent and Inza Nelson wielded the Helm of Nabu powers in complementary ways.
The funny thing is, is that people complain and criticize this crap then run off to the cinema/online streaming service and pay to watch it, thus rewarding the productions... people need to stop watching and talking about this shh itt if they genuinely dislike it!!
I am sure the millions of classic female comic book nerds are absolutely thrilled about this and the negligible small group of male customers doesn’t play an important part in this strategy and can be ignored.
I'm a female comic book fan and I hate what's happening in these comic book movies where they keep making female characters so boring. Most of them have the same personalities and are just automatically good at what they do. Like wow, great role models for me, I just need to be born perfect to succeed /s
@@JustANyanCat You just need to realise that you were *always* stunning and brave. Once you understand that fact - you can do anything! Now embrace your power... And defeat all the men in a big fist fight!
Emily Blunt is my favorite actress, and hearing this about her makes me like her even more. And what's interesting is that she's played some of the best strong female characters I've seen. Mary Poppins Returns, A Quiet Place, and Edge of Tomorrow are all great.
So done you Marvel! I am a woman and I HATE what the feminist movement has done to movies. The woman is always perfect, and totally qualified (with no effort) he only thing holding her back is the terrible men in the world. She is usually arrogant and rude and condescending. I HATE IT!!
I find it so funny that the Boys had that scene where the heroes starred in a shitty cash grab movie and then you realise every Marvel movie after endgame has something like that (including the "don't worry, she has help" scene from Endgame)
Yes. And they wouldn't show Tom Cruise killing her, in the process of stopping the loop. Pretty interesting how the did that, even though everything was in a hush after re-doing the script so many times, and not having an ending planned when they started filming...
Never watched it. Infinity war was good cap to it all, great poignant ending. Captain Marvel came out and it felt like the story felt incongruent, time travel in endgame as well, both felt disrespectful to the masterpiece that had already been told. Wish Black Widow got her movie though, only real glaring flaw in the original MCU
@@synnical77 dumb argument considering people say their names a lot. Plus, this guy isn’t Clint Barton, so why even try to make that comparison? Y’all always do this, and it makes less sense each time. How long before you realize it’s not a smart thing to say?
@@blacklivesorblackvotes2985 Double huh? People say their own names a lot? Is this a Gen Z thing? Who is 'y'all'. What's not a smart thing to say? I'm really confused at what you're trying to get across. I was replying to a person thinking it was notable that a character called Hawkeye wasn't saying his own name a lot? It sounded like an absurd criticism. He sounds like a nobel prize winner in comparison to what you just wrote. I have no idea what you're even arguing about.
Don't know if it's been said but, they probably would have given Chadwick the Dr Strange MOM treatment and had him play 2nd fiddle to Shuri. Glad he didnt have to endure that
Now look at Sony/Amazon trying to bring Silk in a TV series. A really bad female version of Spiderman. May "Day" Parker (Peter's daughter) would have been great to use, but she is a great charecter and I doubt they could writer her well.
Great t-shirt, Drinker! I have that same one. The clowns at Disney/Marvel don't seem to realize, or more likely don't care, that doing this is going to decrease their audience size. They believe they're too big to fail. They're not.
You mean Susan? Yeah, but you see she actually has a little something called…I dunno… *CHARACTER DEPTH?* And also a little something called a *CHARACTER ARC?* Ya know, the two things that *ACTUALLY* make a female character be strong without actually being strong physically?
4:20 The funny thing is that they have actually characterised their female characters very well sometimes. Just that they have no idea the person they created. She-Hulk is a character. Just not the one they think she is.
Still think Captain Marvel was the greatest marketing campaign ever, better even than Black Panther's. "Every girl NEEDS to see this film. But we're not doing free screenings. Instead you can donate here to buy tickets for underprivileged kids who otherwise might not be able to go... and of course you can tweet that you did so everyone knows how amazing you are. Why pay once for a virtue signal? You can play multiple times and don't even have to go back and sit through it again"
3:09 Funny thing; I was thinking about this after recently watching an anime from the 80s. The protagonist was the silent, stoic type who is always cool and awesome, and yet he was shown to get to tired and have bloodied hands from a challenge he faced. So yeah, he faces challenges with the proper reaction despite being oh so great.
We could also say the MCU has replaced its audience....probably with almost no one, as it's tough to relate to these characters, and people are starting to actually notice the men are all gone.
Yeah, who are they replacing the audience with? I mean, that's the one thing feminists and woke people have in common is that neither of them support the shit they force on everyone else. Just like feminists don't go to women's sports, the wokesters don't go to woke movies, because ultimately, they're just not really interested in it. They just want to mark their territory by pissing on everything. Not a single woman was watching Henry Cavill in 'Man of Steel' and was thinking, "Man, this is good, but you know what would be better? If Superman was a hispanic woman." And it's not even meaning anything negative about women or hispanics, it's just that that isn't what people think when they go to a Superman movie. It's so dumb. And you can't even really blame the studios. They just see $$ and follow the blood trail. The real problems are the casual movie fans that will watch anything on the big screen so long as it has "lots of 'sposions, bright colors, and kewl special effects." The comic book fandom has been taken over by lemmings.
At the end of Black Panther 2 didn' t Shuri abdicate the throne to Imbaku ? And now Imbaku is King of Wakanda - Also, we have a new young potential T-chala male for the future. His sister never wanted the throne. She also didn't seem to want to be the black panther either ? So . . I mean , idk.
MCU should have ended at The Endgame a long time ago and it would have been a Book End to the franchise on a high note. Started with Iron Man 1 and Ended with Avengers Endgame.
@@MrClassicmetal No it was plenty good, the only disappointment in it was the appearance of shitlord failvel and the girl powah moment. Remove that and it's a good movie all around, a great send off and finale.
IMO letting Far from Home be the epilogue and allowing it to cap things off with Peter taking up the sword, but doing away with the Mysterio-forced reveal of his identity is something I'd be fine with.
@@TheNightman. Actually I was trying to be diplomatic. _Endgame_ sucked and I nearly fell asleep halfway through the movie. One of the problems is the lazy writing. They simply travelled back in time to get the stones, to change what happened. Then there's the segments where the Avengers are just sulking. And don't get me started on fat Thor, neutered Hulk, and whiney Iron-Spider getting saved by the women. Then there are the numerous plot holes in the script that some fans attempt to explain. But that's just the thing; one of the dead giveaways of lazy writing is fans trying to explain those plot holes. The channel named _Cinema Sleuth_ has a video in which he criticises _Endgame_ with some good arguments. The comments section has a number of fans of that movie, trying very hard to explain the plot holes presented by the channel.
As a SWM, i watched Black Panther because i did not know the character at all. Didnt read comics as a kid save for a few randoms like Superman, Batman, Spiderman. I Loved Black Panther. So well done. Amazing acting. Forrest Whittaker is always terrific. The set. The effects. It was all Fantastic. This new movie, after finding out the plot, i really have ZERO interest in it. Long live T'Challa, RIP Chadwick.
Yep! It all started in Black Panther! T'Challa was surrounded by 4 women. His bodyguard, his girlfriend, his sister and his mother. They're always with him in every scenes! Once one shows up, they'll never let him go on an adventure all on his own. They have to be with him all the time!
The M-She-U is like marriage. I'm not sure none of you guys have experienced this, but ya know how your GF likes things about you, and is attracted to some of the more dangerous aspects of your character. But, then, you marry them and they start wanting you to change everything about yourself, and the things that she found attractive (or at least said she did) are suddenly annoyances to her. Yeah, that's the state of the MCU. Yeah, your motorcycle is hot. Oh, now that we are married we need to get a really expensive minivan, and you (the man) need to "grow up".
Yeah, like when he really liked how much time and effort you put into your wardrobe, hair, and makeup, and he wants that to continue while at the same time expecting you to beautify the flat/house at no extra expense. 😉 kidding aside, both genders do that guys. That's why a marriage in which both parties are trads are the only consistently happy couples.
And once the man has changed, they say the infamous line " You're not the man i fell in love with ". What comes after that is either cheating, divorce or both!
@@thehussarsjacobitess85 The tradition needs to end, most people shouldn't get married. Insecure people do it because they want their partner contractually trapped with them, but that sounds bad so it's marketed as being about love instead
That moment when Guyladriel pulled the sword from the stone to defeat skynet before the dinosaurs took over the planet was breathtaking. I've never been so inspired!
Marvel Comics (in the past 2 years or so): Elektra - Daredevil No 2. Brielle Brooks - Blade's daughter aka New Blade (smt'n) Jackie “Jacks” Chopra - Black Knight's daughter. Clea Strange - New Dr. Strange. Okaye - Best Iron Fist evah (for like 3 panels). Betsy Braddock - New Captain Britain. (Every Captain Britain from every universe is a Woman) Dr. Ashley Kafka - Queen Goblin (replacing Green Goblin). Kara Killgrave - New Purple Woman. Francine Frye - New Electro. I got all this just from reading the solicitations. There maybe more...
It's a constant "oh, you were assuming it could be THAT way? No, it's this way." I would imagine enough people are getting tired of paying money only to get that message anymore. Strong female character = specifically can't be marginalized by any men in the film At least we still have Shang Chi, Dr. Strange, and Spiderman.
As a woman, I have literally no interest in these female-heavy movies, particularly in action flicks. I want attractive, strong men to play those parts, why wouldn't I? We're not all lesbians out here ffs.
Honestly, the thing that is going to be a light in the dark tunnel of Phase 4 will be GOTG Holiday Special, considering the track record of James Gunn and the GOTG films!
My favorite part is how when you point it out “they” then call you sexist etc meanwhile they are literally downgrading half the audience in almost every film.
I watched Loki and kept thinking I wish they would get rid of that annoying woman. There's no way rocking tough Loki, would suddenly start crying for someone to love him without a LOT more work. A few hours in a time loop - no. I mean, he fell into a WORM HOLE, right? And this kneeing in the balls bit I ALWAYS find insulting to men. Loki would have slapped her right back. And as far as female Loki was concerned, there was no way a woman would be physically stronger than him, not unless he was sucker punched. Weak, crying Loki was just insulting to the entire gender. A love story with Loki would be more like All About Eve. Fasten Your Seatbelts It's going to be a Bumpy Night. Kicking and Screaming all the way, full of double entendres and diva comments. That's the persona they had for him. On HIS terms. And he would take a LONG time to figure it out. And I could see him finding the way, but he'd be a lot more angry about it, just like he was with his brother and mother. But God forbid an angry strong man.
The MCU hasn't been close to decent since Endgame. (Besides No Way Home) Haven't watched any of these woke trainwrecks since then and not one feeling I'm missing anything.
Multiverse Madness was also pretty decent, mainly cause you could see Sam Raimi's fingerprints all over it trying desperately to keep the film's head above water.
I went in expecting Wokanda forever to be a complete piece of shit, especially since it had professional fictional victim "Riri Williams" in it. But watching it after She-hulk being the last marvel thing I watched black panther was fucking high art. Lol
Ripley was a strong female character but her thing was she was a timid crew chick that would impress the guys by willing to work. Then she has to become a badass to protect the little girl. It meant something
I'm more and more convinced that Disney is applying Agile and Lean project management tactics to film making (a terrible terrible idea). They work with a minimal script, film sequences (sprints) with multiple outcomes, test them on audiences and film a new batch of sequences based on reaction. They do that with multple plot threads to optimise "user satisfaction". Then they edit the whole soup back together. That's the only explanation I have for the mess that where their last movies (it's midely enjoyable mess, I give you that)
Yes, and in fact The Wizard of Oz is totally feminist. Only the female characters have agency (Dorothy , Glinda, the Wicked Witch, even Aunty Em), while the males are all feckless and only rise to the occasion because of Dorothy‘s example.
Ripley, Sarah Conner, Nikita, hell, even Leeloo - all started off weak, lost, confused, etc, then rose to the challenge by becoming strong. It makes them relatable, gives them an arc, makes us appreciate their struggle and root for their victory. They earn our investment. This new trend of "perfect in every way right out of the box" is the exact opposite of that, and it's just boring. Then they have to double down and, as the lads say in this vid, straight up tell us that these characters are "strong, independant girl-bosses who don't need no man" - usually by having her emasculate every single male character within a mile. There's no subtlety at all. That early loading dock scene in Aliens, where Ripley gets the nod of approval from Hicks after she surprises them by expertly piloting the loader mech is a great example of how you show a woman is strong without bringing sexism into it. The Marines weren't dismissive of her abilities because she was a woman - it was because she was a civilian with an honorary rank and no actual training. She knew they saw her as a liability (as did she) and she saw an opportunity to prove she wasn't, both to the Marines and herself. Simple scene, massive development moment, showed without telling, and respective genders never came into it. That's how it's done.
One of the great parts of that writing choice is how it directly ties into events later. That isn't just there to show her earning their approval, it's the foreshadowing of the big climax of the film. A merely competent writer (not that those aren't rare in the business these days) can do one thing with a scene. A great writer is doing multiple things. (Often the result of drafting and realizing 'Oh wait, I can do the job of both of theses scenes with this new scene instead!' in the process.)
@@Sorain1 Another great example is the rifle-lesson scene. It establishes the capabilities and operation of the rifle, explains Ripley's ability to use it later, shows Ripley's discomfort with violence, shows her understanding that she has to overcome that discomfort under the circumstances, gives Hicks some character development, and introduces a suggestion of romantic interest between the two. The movie is filled with these hard-working bits -- even during the planning-table scene, where it's consistently Hicks who pays attention to Newt (noticing her reaching for the grenade and then putting her up on the table so she can see). This foreshadows his easy acceptance of Ripley's "let's save Newt" behavior later, because we've already seen a little of his paternal side.
Emily Blunt's character Rita in Edge of Tomorrow is a strong female character from day one, but the writers perfectly justified why with her backstory. The "stronk woman" has become such a trope that I'm not sure Rita would play as well now as she did in 2014. Kudos to Emily Blunt for speaking out.
Marvel is simply not worth watching anymore. True “feminism” ended a long while ago, where women fought to have the right to vote, but today’s feminism is about eliminating men from the drawing board.
Just how badly do they have to fail before recognising how screwed they are? For me that was back when they forgot whose their paying audience is and buying all those seats to make those movies appear successful only adds to the amount they need to make a profit! Wasn't that news about layoffs enough of a wake up call?
staffakartherma 0 seconds ago I was going to support the M-She-U, but then realised that I wasn't being represented. And I have been repeatedly told that a person can't go see a movie if the are not represented. Alas
BTW I had subscribed for the channel of George weeks ago and miraculously this subscription was canceled at some time in secret by YT. Not the first time this has happened!
@@AJShelden Funny that this happened only with YT channels of a very specific political orientation. E.g I was also shadow-unsubscribed from the newsmax channel TWICE!
This is spot on. The MSheU is on their way to being the WNBA. Which women love and support more than the NBA right? You go ladies, you got this. #BlackPantherWomanKingForever
In an alternate world they actually used talented writers to cultivate great stories for their already expansive cast of great female heroes and had their all female avengers that didn’t feel forced or derivative. While also retaining their fanbase! Shocking thought.
Phase 4 really is the turning point where people starting to dislike MCU Edit: I refer to those “people” as the casual/general audience. Critical MCU fans already started to notice after Captain Marvel and Endgame
@@Missjunebugfreak I'd say it started with Captain Marvel. Not that there weren't good films after that but that was the first sign of trouble. Of course let's not forget the scene in End Game where they made a point of having all the women come together at one time to fight. That was their bold statement of where they were going.
Yeah dude. My mate was like " you HAVE to see Cap. Marvel in order to get End Game and I said Nah. The movie did nothing and Cap. Marvel was barely in End Game because all her colleagues hated her
Having strong women in movies is cool, but it is logical to have more strong men, as this is the nature of things. I miss males heroes in movies and I also am really tired of watching mostly old movies to avoid the woke stuff. And then, as a woman, being strong does not mean being a "self-righteous bitch", that has nothing to do with women. Nikita is a cool movie, totally agree.
Agree larissa. As soon as fans hear "strong empowered woman" they fall asleep,vomit and switch off. The way Hollywood writes female characters in no way represents real women. Hollywood seems to think strong means obnoxious,rude,unappealing,graceless and generally not someone you would wish to hang around with. Its ridiculous. They write women as essentially the worst elements of anyone in a female "skin". Strength is shown in many different ways (not that so called strength should be shoehorned into everything,many people are not) and comes in many different forms. The (extremely clumsy and unwanted) force fed agenda of Hollywood is going to kill the industry. No one is interested in this crap. People just want good tales told well.
People always mention Ripley and Sarah Connor (quite rightly) but it amazes me that Lisbeth Salander doesn't get mentioned. Goth bisexual hacker who can kick ass Also shout out to George mentioning Nikita. Luc Besson's Anna is also good
Because she's troubled as shit, and her "bisexuality" is almost a clear consequence of her fear of men, as her father was a molesting cunt, nowadays that's also a no-go
One of the best badass female scene is in the Spy who loved me. That scene when Anya presses the right button on the Lotus and nonchalantly says she saw the plans in the Kremlin years ago. And even "toxic" males celebrate Barbara Bach.
Yeah, it's not just an influx of female leads. All male leads are *surrounded* by women who are just as strong and capable as they are, if not more so. It's suffocating.
What people forget is every female character in a horror movie that survived and killed the killer at the end. Thats hundreds of female characters going back to 70's or earlier? Weird for the woke to think strong female characrers is a new thing.
A truly strong person does not need to tell anyone they are strong, they just go about their business and people can tell that they are strong. When I am told a person is strong, I immediately feel they either are not truly strong, or they likely have underserved or poorly written strength.
They eliminated male characters AND their entire audience all at once! Wow, talk about efficiency!
„Wakanda forever“ is going real strong! Giant opening, will almost certainly make Disney tons of money! So not much audience lost!
@@BillHimmel wow
@@BillHimmel I didn't go to a marvel movie in cinema in almost 4 years. So ... ?😃😃
Unfortunately they haven’t eliminated their audience. Hypocritical nerds and the social media mob keep showing up regardless and then have the nerve to be shocked about how crap the finished product is.
I think I represent the everyday guy who just wants to see a god film. Topgun Maverick was a great because the people making it had passion, vision, talent, experience, and no bitterness or hatred for their audience like the woke mob do.
beta lowlives are still paying
I can see Emily Blunt's point considering her character in 'Edge of Tomorrow' is the absolute epitome of what a well written, strong, female lead can be. She knows exactly what the level and standard should be, not this "let's just give women all the traits, powers, characteristics of men and call it a day" BS.
She was a great character in that movie. Well acted but also a well written character. Knows when she needs help and isn't afraid to ask for it, even as competent as she otherwise is.
I love that film, and I love, love, love Emily Blunt. ❤️
@@helsinkianskies She’s an amazing actress
Probably won't be seeing her in the MCU, then.
Gained even more respect for her after that interview. And I already thought she was awesome.
Mostly male cast: Absolutely unacceptable, where is the diversity?
Mostly female cast: This is stunning and Brave!
They did not eliminate all male heroes.
Here is the list of all the male heroes still in the mcu.
Spider-man
Doctor Strange
Thor
Hulk
Daredevil
Deadpool
Falcon
Winter Soldier
Star Lord
Shang Chi
Ant man
Moon knight
Werewolf
Nick Fury
Loki
Blade
They just introduced a few women lead heroes because for 3 phases, there were none other than captain marvel.
Iron Heart
Captain Marvel
MsMarvel
SheHulk
Wasp
Cersy
Yelena
Shuri
Oh no 8 women!! Ewwww. I want penises only on the mcu!
@@prestigiorebelde Your list is not correct and several don't even exist like Falcon?? You meant POC Captain America. Spiderman - half black/half latinX. Hule is replaced by stronger female version. Thor is female now, Loki is basically replaced by female Loki and you listed many they aren't even on screen or haven't joined MCU yet. Shuri- you mean Black Panther?
@@prestigiorebelde i bet you think your the REAL hero... talk about a straw man argument, all those male characters have been completely destroyed and all those female characters have been "objectified" in the sense they arent even people anymore.. its not the NUMBERS, its how they are handled... but by all means, keep saving the world, you guys are doing a bang up job...
@@prestigiorebelde do you really want me to go thru your list? Loki? Thor? Moon Knight? Hulk? i could keep going but ill stop there.. all destroyed for a narrative that these characters were not created/ designed for... just stop...its not the lack of penises people hate, its the way in which characters and their world are presented... but no, im sure everyone who disagrees with you is just another incel nazee, and you are the only "smart" person around...
@@prestigiorebelde now name one unique personality and characteristic, flaw that makes the character interesting
Out of those eight so called good written heroines if not ANY of the female superheroes
So I’m a 44 year old woman… one of my fav movies of all time is “field of dreams” but according to mainstream media I shouldn’t love this movie cause I can’t “see myself” in it! I’m not a 30 something year old man who lost his dad. But I can relate to the human emotions of it. I tear up every time. Human emotion does not depend on “seeing yourself” it’s something we can all relate to. And it’s something modern movies have forgotten
There's the superficial "see myself" that goes only skin deep. It's so throw away because there is no human element or character growth underneath the flesh. It's a series of check marks that is so obvious and so robotic that most people just roll their eyes and look elsewhere for depth of concepts and feelings.
Then there's the "see myself" in terms of shared experiences. Field of Dreams touches that part that comes from sports nostalgia (baseball or softball), parent and child dynamics, and one's dreams at different stages of aging.
It wasn't my favorite movie as my school system used it every time there was a substitute teacher. Kinda soured the taste of it a bit. But damn does it stick with you due to those concepts.
And I'm a 39 year old woman so I get what you're saying. I can relate as my Dad used to play baseball with those oversized plastic ball and bat sets with me when I was little. So I know how it feels to want to share that experience of spending time with the ones you love just playing ball. I don't need a woman in Kevin Costner's shoes to know how the character is feeling.
If you build it, they will come
One of my all time favorite movies is Sister Act I and II. Even though I'm neither female nor black and I'm not even a religios person. So does that mean I'm not supposed to watch these movies?
"Dances With Wolves" is probably my all-time favorite. I've never been on an isolated post at Fort Wagner or whatever, I've never tamed a wolf, and I've never been on a wagon. However, I HAVE been a fight choreographer, competitive saber fencer, actor, instructor, and I'm also a published author.
You don't have to "be" the main character of a story to resonate with their struggles.
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The human spirit. This is what Amazon doesn’t get about Lord of the Rings.
Sarah Connor in T and T2 is the perfect example of strong female character building done right, or Ripley in Alien, to a lesser extent. Both decades ago.
Both Sarah and Ripley go from protecting themselves in the first film to protecting a child in the second film ("don't miss with mama bear").
@@Falconlibrary The same will be with Neytiri in Avatar 2.
because they where flawed. in particular sarah connor, thats what made her compelling. hollywoke just produce trash maden from trash writers. its a ideologue platform thats all. stop talking about stop watching it stop giving a fuck.
Everybody keeps talking about Ripley and Connor, but about Agent Starling from Silence of the Lambs and Laurna Cole from Lethal Weapon 3 & 4? They are good underrated female action characters.
Can people actually come up with something original instead of naming the exact same two characters over and over? It's getting really old.
No problem. I'll take my toxic male money elsewhere.
Until your money is replaced by Central Bank Digital Currency which controls and tracks what you're allowed to spend it on.
"Citizen, you appear to have watched too many movies with a low ESG score in a row. That's a big yikes from us dog. Please select an approved movie from the following list while we assign you a police visit to unpack this and check your thinking."
@@VallornDeathblade Other way: citizen, I see you have not been to see she hulk and wakanda forever yet, if you do not wish to be deducted 100 social credit points you will need to go see them both within the next 7 days. Have a nice day and remember big brother loves you.
@@robertjohnston8690 It'll probably be both. After all, you can never let a thought outside the control of the Party take root.
@Heavy Metal Pulp What are you talking about xD
Same here. Marvel don't want my toxic male money anymore. So f**k Marvel :)
Man, RDJ got the fuck out at the perfect time
yup, hope he does a good third sherlock yet...
I'm just sad he didn't take the role of Mario in Super Mario Brothers
Good for him. Same with Chris Evans.
I am so relieved Tony Stark doesn't have to endure getting sidelined by his own wife and Riri
@@navylaks2 it’s a-me, Iron Man!
Kill Bill never had the tag of a "strong female character". But I guarantee no female character of the past decade could TOUCH her bravado
Good point. Kind of makes me miss those days when women could be awesome without all the added bullshit and nonsense.
Man kill bill was a fantastic series and she BODIED that role so much so that we as an audience viewed her as bad ass even if she was just chewing gum
We actually got to see her progression in that movie and in every fight she got hurt she didn’t just whoop ass just like Ripley we see her go from scared and helpless to brave and relentless
Kill Bill is such a stupid pair of movies, like most of Tarantino's schlock.
ya know, thinking about it, most modern strong female characters can't even hold a candle to the female badasses in Kill Bill, even the kinda one-note Elle.
On the Emily Blunt comment it made me think that the problem isn't that there can't be a strong female lead but that the story is made around the concept of telling the audience how strong she is.
Also the writers don't understand that strong female doesn't mean strong masculine female.
If you watch a quiet place, she is a strong female character. She is so good in that movie.
If you don't have a mini pen*s from steroid use than your not a real strong woman yo.
Emily Blunt is currently starring in The English, where she plays Lady Cornelia, who is indeed strong but also very flawed and who makes many mistakes. Watching Cornelia learning and growing and trying and failing makes the show very interesting. I just finished Season 1 and I highly recommend the show.
they think having a smug character is all it takes to be a strong female character which is ironic since smug male characters in movies are the most hatred.
Exactly! They tell, don't show. And when the audience calls them out as Mary Sues, they call the audience sexist.
I liked Jessica Jones because she was physically strong, but had a serious PTSD and drinking problem. She was far from perfect and relatable.
another example of a female character done right. If she is redone by Disney+, she will have none of those issues.
Why does relatability mean good character work? Making a character relatable liberates them of nuance and coolness factor. The average movie goers is just a unkept, primitive and unintelligent nihilist who don’t take anything seriously. We don’t always need underdog stories. Now I only see it as a cheap and uninteresting way of manufacturing drama.
@@SoyboyPeter The heroes journey is a tried and tested formula for writing a story. A good story often involves seeing a character discover something essential that he or she is missing at the beginning of the story. While the main character does not always have to be an underdog, having a Mary Sue as the title character is a sure way to tell a horrible story because the character doesn't need anything and learn anything.
Jessica Jones is a cool and nuanced character. She has a quick wit and is a PI. She likes to be left alone for the most part, but she has genuine concerns for others. She does not want to be a hero, but she always makes the right choice when times are difficult. As a man, I have nothing in common with Jessica, but I can relate to her because her wants and needs are well developed.
@@SoyboyPeter The answer is obvious. No one is perfect and everyone has flaws so seeing another character with real flaws is easily relatable. The perfect example of crap character is Rey Palpatine. She was boring AF and with her as the main protagonist, the sequel trilogy sucked. The toy figures of her and Rose never sold. They didn't even sell well at major discounts. Nobody wanted that crap.
The PTSD gave her an internal struggle to overcome, which is far more interesting than someone who’s just already perfect in every way
Imagine a parallel universe Man-C-U, men and women would both be against THAT level of sexism and low-effort pandering.
But in our lovely universe...
It would be called the Men-C-U, not Man-C-U
It’d be much more palatable at the very least
@@petery6432 The feMENists thought it was the Men-C-U. Why do you think their male minions have such a hissyfit about calling it the M-She-U?
It would be the M-He-U.
No one would have called MSheU if writing were good.
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. - 1984
Think about it..every aspect of this quote has it's real world counterpart..now that is good writing...
I’m happy they replaced every single male character. Honestly, I am. Let’s swing that pendulum to maximum female support. And when every single one of those female only character projects fails to bring in the audiences we will be waiting. I’m going to quote one of my favourite male characters. The movie executives that turned their backs on male audiences will say
“save us” and I’ll whisper “no” -Rorschach (the watchmen)
The perfect use of the quote 🥰
Remembering the lines preceding that quote: yes.
the main problem i have with how the female characters are made is how O.P they are. take Luke and Rey. there stories are almost exactly the same. but where Luke barely survives each fight Rey wins them all easily. Luke barely manages to cut off the Wampa's arm and then he runs away. that look of abject fear right after he cuts off the Wampa's arm shows that yeah he might be able to kill it easily but he's so scared of it that he won't risk it. that's 1 of the most human and relatable moments i've ever seen.
in ROTJ he barely survives against the rancor. at every step of his journey he almost dies and only just manages to scrape by. pan over to Rey who wins her first ever lightsaber fight against a man who's spent more years than she's lived training with a lightsaber and honing his skills.
the ease of which the female characters go through their journey and "trials" is insultingly easy. there's no actual struggle they're just that good. it's O.P Fanfiction levels of stupid. where a character is perfect at everything and can do things so much better than anyone else despite the complete impossibility of that. Hawkeye show anyone?
Iron Man 1. Tony barely wins against Obidiah and that requires him to cheat by using the Arc Reactor to fry him in his suit. Iron Man 2. he AND Rhodey lose to Vanko and only using a cheat move beat him. Iron Man 3. "the Mandarin" destroys multiple Iron Man suits before Pepper hits him from behind and he falls to his death. at every stage Tony this awesome badass character barely pulls out a win. the same for every male character. they all suffer and struggle and only barely eke out a win. but the women just do it so easily and with no struggle. again it's shitty fanfiction
imagine trying to convince the world that with over what? 70 years of movies and shows? that there's never been strong female characters before. and they keep trying this same shit. for the last 15 years they've continuously acted as if their female character is the first strong one. or this gay character is the first of whatever..................again 70 years of movies and shows and you expect people to believe you're shattering glass ceilings?
remember when entertainment was about ENTERTAINING? can we go back to that? i'm sick of watching propaganda. because that's what this shit is.
you don’t get it. They don’t want entertainment, they apply the skills they learned in college writing class. It’s the combination of people that follow the mainstream line sheep, but because they went to college they think they’re superior to everyone else and it’s their mission to get the public into the right think. In those classes propaganda is wanted even necessary for good grades. You don’t get graded for individual ideas or clever stories, it’s about how you can can take any given topic and turn it into supposedly mainstream propaganda. That’s literally how writing classes work and now they’re thinking it applies in the real world, explains also why they react confused, angry to the criticism, they think the critiques are wrong because they still believe in what their college professor told them.
This should be top comment
it is the writers and ideologues projecting their narcissism and spite and envy through their marysues in their "reimagining" and post modern woketainment
It’s borderline disrespectful and pandering to women to say you’re perfect the way you are, you have absolutely no flaws to overcome and will succeed in any situation no matter how prepared you are for that situation or not.
Them phasing out men and white people from most commercials (and ads) on many channels I've seen shows how heavy the propaganda is.
So many products and companies yet nearly all are doing it.
The current state of the MCU is making me wish Thanos had succeeded.
A misunderstood Titan!😟
My argument is that Thanos won in Infinity War and Endgame was just a fever dream by Captain America, who couldn't accept reality, which is why it ends with him time hopping with the Infinity Stones and then going back in time to grow old with Peggy.
Now everyone sees it my way, Infinity War should've been the end of the story, its so much better than Endgame.
@@Ancient_Tribesman Best MCU film!
Well, if stage 4 is anything to go by, the snap didn't happen anyhow... what was the point. 🤷♀️
Fans: “We want to see more of Peggy Carter. Please give us Agent Carter season 3.”
Marvel: *Canceled Agent Carter season 3 and turned Peggy into Captain America ripoff who died in the stupidest way possible*
OG Peggy Carter is known for the balance between brawns and brain. She combined her intelligence and espionage skill to get things done and is very relatable.
Phase 4 Peggy Carter is this big buffed steroid muscular lady (technically Steve, but woman) who mainly uses her brawn more than brain and barely has personality. And now people mainly remember her for “I can do this all day”.
This is how Marvel respected her character by the way.
While Agents of Shield kind of spiraled in on itself and became impossible to follow, I did always like how Agent Carter treated all of its characters including its villains and its supporting cast.
I think that qualifies as sexist.
brilliant analysis, except the part where ANYONE asked for more of Peggy Carter. We did NOT, sir. You are a liar and a charlatan.
@@VallornDeathblade Shame it actually got good and exciting after season one/yawn. But that's OK, the whole point of creating a shared universe is not all shows, are for everyone. But their will be one for someone. (God that sounded camp, but I think you get what I mean.)
That is exactly why I appreciate that AoS is keeping itself far away from this mess... Peggy, Daniel, Daisy, Melinda, Phil, and the rest of ABC Marvel's characters are already well-written characters and better off without being pulled into M-She-U...
Ripely was a cool character. She listens to people who know more than her like doctors, soldiers, and even the corporate people. She doesn’t just “know everything about everything.” Even the way she uses the weaponry at the end of Aliens “looks” like how someone would use it as a total newbie. She’s straining and scared but also incredibly brave. It really makes the film look more authentic and believable than what we see today where so much relating to “strong female characters” is unearned. By the way Ripley still had her strengths- she was a pilot and could also do the hauling with the exoskeleton. She wasn’t amazing at everything in life which means other characters could actually be important too.
Perfectly put, NONE of these indestructible girl bosses can hold a candle to Ellen
She also was resourceful and great at finding the Not so obvious solution.
Trapped in a Medical Bay with Windows that won't Break with 2 face huggers? Set off the Fire alarm to alert the other marines to the room.
Have a Pulse Rifle and Flamethrower? Tape them together.
"Characters are unisex and can be played by either gender".
That's in the note from Alien script. The scriptwriters wrote Ripley and Ellen could have Alan.
But Sigourney Weaver nailed that role and made the character her own. She juggles between supporting her captain and managing the unionized crew, with hints of "I'm not paid enough for this shit" that brings reality to the settings. She embodies the human element struggling to fit into the works of an uncaring company, torn between her duties as a second in command and as a crewmate. (Her orders vs the captain's or bishop's, her prioritizing the crew vs "crew expendable")
That is directly relatable to a number of viewers and brings an element of "blue collars in space" that other Sci-Fi franchises never had.
And when the alien threat appears, she doesn't magically becomes the Hero because vagina, she's just as scared as the rest of them. But she rises up to the challenge and in doing so becomes the Hero.
"Heroism starts at the lowest point." Mary-sue writers have never learned that.
Ripley was just doing her work, without pushing THE MESSAGE all around in every fricking scene.
Indeed her actions emerge from a feminine side of protection from care for the cat and the girl, rather than a masculine side of aggressiveness where protection is a bit a consequence of being physically stronger, a masculine trait that looks unbelievable in these angry small actresses fighting to prove themselves stronger than men.
I just watched gremlins, and Billy's mom is a f*&%ing boss. She's left alone in a house with 5 gremlins and blends 1, stabs another to death, and blows a third up in the microwave in a few minutes. Yes, she gets saved by Billy as a fourth one attacks her. Kate is also clever, figuring out on her own that the gremlins don't like light and using the flash on her polaroid to almost get free. Billy does save her, but at the end of the movie, Billy is saved by her when she finds the lights (and then by Gizmo).
The point is in that movie: 1) The mom definitely has the coolest kill streak of anyone period and 2) everyone needs help sometimes and 3) the women hold their own as much as anyone in the movie. The idea that feminism now has its day with junk like Captain Marvel is ridiculous. There have been strong women for decades, the difference now is that the women are literally written as gender-swapped men (the writer of Captain Marvel said the character she wrote was inspired by a male fighter pilot).
Exactly! I was actually thinking one day about the character of Marion from Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark. How it would be easy to dismiss her as just another damsel in distress for Indy to save, but when you really think about it, she isn't. She's tough as nails from the start. She orchestrates her own escape, and would have gotten away with it if it, too, if it hadn't been for those dang Not-sees (deliberate misspelling to avoid comment ban). In fact, by the end, Indy never rescues her. Both she and Indy are in hot water and it's only by a literal act of God that they get saved. I'm not a big fan of the fourth Indy movie, but I do love that not only does Marion return, she's the one Indy marries at the end.
I love gremlins, always have since childhood
(i am a woman, got 2 gizmo collectibles, need more)
Feminism is about equality. Imperfect female characters who also have strong traits and qualities is feminist. Perfect women who can do no wrong isn’t feminist, that’s female supremacist. Some people have taken feminism too far to go past saying women are equal to men to saying women are better than men, and that’s naturally offensive and confusing to a lot of people.
@@ErikDayne Yeah, a helpful rule of thumb when dealing with people is asking whether their views and/or actions are distinguishable from someone who's just clout- or power-chasing. While there's a bunch of people who may call themselves (or even see themselves as feminists) there words and actions are only concerned with "equality" when they feel their side is behind. Whenever their side is ahead, they celebrate and/or push for bigger disparities rather than seeking equality. This goes for pretty much any identity group, and the behavior is indistinguishable from that of a sociopath using the language of equality when convenient to get what they want.
Hah, loved that movie!
It gave me nightmares but I absolutely loved it!
Also yeah Billy’s mom is a TRUE example of actual female empowerment, as is Kate as well as being a TRUE strong female character and how to ACTUALLY do it right, versus…ya know…make her just strong for the sake of “le strong female hue hue hue”
You put all those strong women in a room and you almost have one entire personality.... Nah, it's just the same half a personality shared by all of them.
No, theres some variation. Some of them are smug and condescending, and some of them are really, really smug and condescending.
If you shouted: Karen? The whole room would turn as one.
@@pete3011 Dude, i spit out my drink on that one. Thanks!!!
@@pete3011 Some have issues with men while others "only" have daddy issues, some are bitter and miserable while others are only bitter. There's a great variety, diversity even. Depends on the psychology of the specific self-inserting "writer".
@@pete3011 She Hulk beats them all out on Smug and Condescending. Although Captain Marvel is ight up there with her.
My wife and daughters were all in for the unity saga. After the infinity saga we watched some of the Disney plus marvel exclusives but we’re increasingly unimpressed.
Critical Drinker: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?"
M-She-U: *"I AM THE HYPE!!!"*
Ah a TFS refference
Critical Drinker: "M-She-U, no!"
Everyone: "M-She-U, no!"
M-She-U: "M-SHE-U, YES!!!"
Not yet.
Doesn't count unless Lanipator sez it.
"hype is female"
Mcu already had great female characters that everyone loved. Black widow, Carter, gamora, nebula, and Jessica Jones had massive success on netflix. Everyone was fine with it because it wasn't forced
It didn't remove male characters to replace them with female characters. They were their own characters. They just don't like to compete for the limelight. The next step is to bring back all the original male characters but having them identify as female. Then they'll get rid of all the genetic females. Now that's progress. Just like real life. Now how's feminism working out for them?
This
@@ScottCleve33 my point isn't that they have replaced the male characters, my point was that there were loads of excellently written female characters that weren't forcibly strong Mary sues that were all already perfect but just needed to realise it.
Yeah, but there's no way in hell that Drinker is going to admit that. His audience has WAY too big of a hate boner for female protagonists unless it's Ellen Ripley (and even then, I think that last one is only due to nostalgia goggles)
@@mindshuffler3332 quite the opposite. Nobody had a problem with the original ones... including drinker.... because they weren't forced Mary sues. The new batch aren't well written. At all
That point about Wakanda Forever not having a proper main character is something I've noticed about most of these modern shows and movies. Star Wars 7-8-9, Rings of Power, Picard, Halo, etc. They all have a diverse group of protagonists, but no single character ever manages to stand out from the crowd to take the lead. So instead of a great hero boldly guiding the story, you just get a bunch of sidekicks stumbling around doing nothing.
It feels like each writer has a different favorite character, and they each think their character deserves to be the star, so they can't ever agree on who should take the lead. So instead, no one gets to lead, because equality!
Its like trying to play D&D without a DM, where every player wants to make their character the center of attention, and make sure everything always favors them over all else. And because they don't have that central authority to keep everything organized, it just ends up making a mess where nothing cool can ever happen.
Hollywood writers also have no backgrounds in classical literature, storytelling, dramatic structure, character archetypes, and literary techniques. And why not? Simple; it's "beneath them". They don't need to study Rostand, Goldman, Shakespeare, Stoppard, Moliere nor any other "old hacks". Nope. They're already perfect. Just like their characters. 🙄
--an award-winning, self-published author
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1:50 - I first noticed that in the first Black Panther movie. T'Challa could accomplish almost nothing with out a group of women around to support him or rescue him.
Yea after civil war tchala was letdown
Wait till you see the second black panther. Every male protagonist lost/got beat up tremendously while all the women kicked ass
I completely agree with Emily Blunt. I get a violent physical reaction to the "strong, independent, don't need no man" May Sue Karenning. It's gross and boring. A 12 year old boy, who placed 72nd in the boys field track, won 1st place in the girls competition. For the love of reality, can we please stop the insanity? 🙃
Say good bye to your scholarships. The thing about tolerance is that if you tolerate everything, you stand up for nothing
She got married and had kids. I wonder if that changed the way she percieved the world?
The world seems a combination of insanity and inanity right now.
@Rich Smith "Adults went easy on kids so they didn't feel bad about beating them"
Love this frequently quoted incel meme. What's your next example, the case of one country's Survivor season where it was a male team and a female team as "proof" when Survivor is a scripted reality TV show where contestants are chosen for whatever personalities will cause the most entertainment and drama?
@@MagcargoMan how about the last Olympics then? You know, the one with the mixed relay events. Absolutely none of those teams picked underperforming women, yet we see the performance difference. Look at all the sports outside of sailing and equestrian events. See a pattern? And in sailing and equestrian events there is a rough parity. Why?
So, in retrospect, Thanos was fighting the good fight.
OOF 😆
Yeah. So when he snapped his fingers half the people in the universe was gone we didn't realize that the half he got rid of was the male half.
Absolutely. And his character was loosely based on the God of the Bible
@@ScottCleve33 Explains THIS line in Black Widow: "With you, an Avenger under my control, I can finally come out of the shadows using the only natural resource that the world has too much of. Girls."
I adore how innocent Mauler was.
I am wondering if there is a chance of pendulum swinging back, you know, going back to focus on good writing first and allowing a serious moment to be serious without ruining it with a bad quip.
And would it even matter? I don't want to go back to the franchise that abandoned me, and then called me a racist sexist for not caring about it anymore.
I don't know Bartek, I think it depends on how much you loved the franchise, "your" franchise. Would you believe any of them modern boolshitwood filmmakers if they've said "okay enough with the bullshit, we're revamping this series yet again and going back to roots"? I don't think this has happened yet anywhere, so I would probably pass. Just let it die, and remember the good times...
Gary said it best: "Sweet summer child." I've been a Christian all my life, so unfortunately, I'm all too used to being branded a bigot.
If they didn't have to play politics they could of easily created a movie that focused on Shuri & M'Baku fighting for the throne. Shuri not wanting the job but her mother forcing her into it and M'Baku getting resistance from the other tribes because they were afraid of what he might do. Than comes Namor to united the tribes. M'Baku learns to temper his agresson with wisdom and Shuri learns that you need to answer the call. You could even introduce a real romance into the MCU.
Or just recast. And dont milk poor actors death
They completely erased a big character out of the mcu. Black panther is pretty popular and they replace him with a female version of him which obviously was never not even close to being popular to tchalla. The female versions of male characters are never as popular as the male counterparts. They should have just recasted tchalla. It wouldn't be a sign of disrespect to recast the role.
Ridiculous how they made Namor’s crotch smaller, but I bet they wouldn’t make a woman’s breasts smaller. They literally hate signs of masculinity.
Yeah but i bet they make a woman crotch bigger(insert steroids).
Oh they would make female characters breasts smaller. Look at Tifa in the new remake. Feminity but only if it can't be sexualized
They hate women, too.
The Cowboy Bebop reboot would beg to differ.
??wait what ??? That was a man?! NAMOR? You sure?
The funny thing is that the female counterpart goes all the way back to Mythology. Two genders having the same "powers" is the basis for many comic and heroic figures, but the key was that males and females were/are innately different and the female version would be interesting because off that difference, and would not be a replacement but an addition. The current movieverse cannot do that because that would acknowledge that the two genders bring something different to the table. Best example is the Doctor Fate comics run, where both Kent and Inza Nelson wielded the Helm of Nabu powers in complementary ways.
The funny thing is, is that people complain and criticize this crap then run off to the cinema/online streaming service and pay to watch it, thus rewarding the productions... people need to stop watching and talking about this shh itt if they genuinely dislike it!!
I am sure the millions of classic female comic book nerds are absolutely thrilled about this and the negligible small group of male customers doesn’t play an important part in this strategy and can be ignored.
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I'm a female comic book fan and I hate what's happening in these comic book movies where they keep making female characters so boring. Most of them have the same personalities and are just automatically good at what they do. Like wow, great role models for me, I just need to be born perfect to succeed /s
@@JustANyanCat Remember kids, you are worthless unless you are already perfect at what you do.
@@JustANyanCat You just need to realise that you were *always* stunning and brave.
Once you understand that fact - you can do anything!
Now embrace your power...
And defeat all the men in a big fist fight!
Emily Blunt is my favorite actress, and hearing this about her makes me like her even more.
And what's interesting is that she's played some of the best strong female characters I've seen. Mary Poppins Returns, A Quiet Place, and Edge of Tomorrow are all great.
Emily Blunt is a treasure
Sicario is also great.
@@vinnie245 Agreed. Sicario is awesome.
@@chasehedges6775 Yes she is.
A Quiet Place is amazing. Strong contender for the best film I've seen this year. Emily is awesome.
So done you Marvel!
I am a woman and I HATE what the feminist movement has done to movies.
The woman is always perfect, and totally qualified (with no effort) he only thing holding her back is the terrible men in the world.
She is usually arrogant and rude and condescending.
I HATE IT!!
I find it so funny that the Boys had that scene where the heroes starred in a shitty cash grab movie and then you realise every Marvel movie after endgame has something like that (including the "don't worry, she has help" scene from Endgame)
Blunt was a badass in Edge of Tomorrow. Good for her
Yes. And they wouldn't show Tom Cruise killing her, in the process of stopping the loop. Pretty interesting how the did that, even though everything was in a hush after re-doing the script so many times, and not having an ending planned when they started filming...
That's fine...I eliminated my money from Marvel, I see this as an absolute win
Same
They eliminated me from the MCU after _Endgame_ showed where they were going.
Never watched it. Infinity war was good cap to it all, great poignant ending. Captain Marvel came out and it felt like the story felt incongruent, time travel in endgame as well, both felt disrespectful to the masterpiece that had already been told. Wish Black Widow got her movie though, only real glaring flaw in the original MCU
Hawkeye didn't even mutter his own name until he said it to his female counterpart.
Huh? How often do you mutter your own name?
@@synnical77 dumb argument considering people say their names a lot. Plus, this guy isn’t Clint Barton, so why even try to make that comparison? Y’all always do this, and it makes less sense each time. How long before you realize it’s not a smart thing to say?
@@blacklivesorblackvotes2985 Double huh? People say their own names a lot? Is this a Gen Z thing?
Who is 'y'all'. What's not a smart thing to say? I'm really confused at what you're trying to get across. I was replying to a person thinking it was notable that a character called Hawkeye wasn't saying his own name a lot? It sounded like an absurd criticism. He sounds like a nobel prize winner in comparison to what you just wrote. I have no idea what you're even arguing about.
Don't know if it's been said but, they probably would have given Chadwick the Dr Strange MOM treatment and had him play 2nd fiddle to Shuri. Glad he didnt have to endure that
When The Beach Boys said two girls for every boy, this must have been what they were talking about
Thanos Did Nothing Wrong.
Titanic lives matter
Yes he did.
He stopped at half the universe.
@@cariganpintalba9498 💀
Of course he did! He bloody lost!
He failed.
Now look at Sony/Amazon trying to bring Silk in a TV series. A really bad female version of Spiderman. May "Day" Parker (Peter's daughter) would have been great to use, but she is a great charecter and I doubt they could writer her well.
Great t-shirt, Drinker! I have that same one.
The clowns at Disney/Marvel don't seem to realize, or more likely don't care, that doing this is going to decrease their audience size. They believe they're too big to fail. They're not.
Ginormica from Monsters vs Aliens has more depth than a lot of the female characters the MCU has to offer
At this rate Tatiana has more depth and backstory than most of these characters.
@@jfinn3575 Wow
You mean Susan?
Yeah, but you see she actually has a little something called…I dunno… *CHARACTER DEPTH?*
And also a little something called a *CHARACTER ARC?*
Ya know, the two things that *ACTUALLY* make a female character be strong without actually being strong physically?
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 Ginormica is pretty big and strong. But there is more to her character beyond her physical size and strength.
4:20 The funny thing is that they have actually characterised their female characters very well sometimes. Just that they have no idea the person they created. She-Hulk is a character. Just not the one they think she is.
Still think Captain Marvel was the greatest marketing campaign ever, better even than Black Panther's. "Every girl NEEDS to see this film. But we're not doing free screenings. Instead you can donate here to buy tickets for underprivileged kids who otherwise might not be able to go... and of course you can tweet that you did so everyone knows how amazing you are. Why pay once for a virtue signal? You can play multiple times and don't even have to go back and sit through it again"
3:09
Funny thing; I was thinking about this after recently watching an anime from the 80s. The protagonist was the silent, stoic type who is always cool and awesome, and yet he was shown to get to tired and have bloodied hands from a challenge he faced. So yeah, he faces challenges with the proper reaction despite being oh so great.
What's the name of the movie
We could also say the MCU has replaced its audience....probably with almost no one, as it's tough to relate to these characters, and people are starting to actually notice the men are all gone.
Yeah, who are they replacing the audience with? I mean, that's the one thing feminists and woke people have in common is that neither of them support the shit they force on everyone else. Just like feminists don't go to women's sports, the wokesters don't go to woke movies, because ultimately, they're just not really interested in it. They just want to mark their territory by pissing on everything.
Not a single woman was watching Henry Cavill in 'Man of Steel' and was thinking, "Man, this is good, but you know what would be better? If Superman was a hispanic woman." And it's not even meaning anything negative about women or hispanics, it's just that that isn't what people think when they go to a Superman movie. It's so dumb.
And you can't even really blame the studios. They just see $$ and follow the blood trail. The real problems are the casual movie fans that will watch anything on the big screen so long as it has "lots of 'sposions, bright colors, and kewl special effects." The comic book fandom has been taken over by lemmings.
At the end of Black Panther 2 didn' t Shuri abdicate the throne to Imbaku ? And now Imbaku is King of Wakanda - Also, we have a new young potential T-chala male for the future. His sister never wanted the throne. She also didn't seem to want to be the black panther either ? So . . I mean , idk.
That scene in Endgame just wasn't enough 😂
That was the warning of what is happening now
@@FP194 Yup. That was the warning shot. Cringe af.
@@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT
The boys handled it better in season 2 finale
Before you know it it’ll be called x-women
They hinted at that...😁
Yes, they will look at either race swapping or gender swapping half the characters or just fill the mansions with woman.
nope x-they/them
If they ever think of making them the X-Wife I might know of someone I'd like to promote for the team. 😅
X-Genders
MCU should have ended at The Endgame a long time ago and it would have been a Book End to the franchise on a high note.
Started with Iron Man 1 and Ended with Avengers Endgame.
And _Endgame_ wasn't even that good, it was anti climatic.
@@MrClassicmetal No it was plenty good, the only disappointment in it was the appearance of shitlord failvel and the girl powah moment. Remove that and it's a good movie all around, a great send off and finale.
It did for me.
IMO letting Far from Home be the epilogue and allowing it to cap things off with Peter taking up the sword, but doing away with the Mysterio-forced reveal of his identity is something I'd be fine with.
@@TheNightman. Actually I was trying to be diplomatic. _Endgame_ sucked and I nearly fell asleep halfway through the movie.
One of the problems is the lazy writing. They simply travelled back in time to get the stones, to change what happened. Then there's the segments where the Avengers are just sulking. And don't get me started on fat Thor, neutered Hulk, and whiney Iron-Spider getting saved by the women.
Then there are the numerous plot holes in the script that some fans attempt to explain. But that's just the thing; one of the dead giveaways of lazy writing is fans trying to explain those plot holes.
The channel named _Cinema Sleuth_ has a video in which he criticises _Endgame_ with some good arguments. The comments section has a number of fans of that movie, trying very hard to explain the plot holes presented by the channel.
As a SWM, i watched Black Panther because i did not know the character at all. Didnt read comics as a kid save for a few randoms like Superman, Batman, Spiderman.
I Loved Black Panther. So well done. Amazing acting. Forrest Whittaker is always terrific. The set. The effects. It was all Fantastic.
This new movie, after finding out the plot, i really have ZERO interest in it.
Long live T'Challa, RIP Chadwick.
Yep! It all started in Black Panther! T'Challa was surrounded by 4 women. His bodyguard, his girlfriend, his sister and his mother. They're always with him in every scenes! Once one shows up, they'll never let him go on an adventure all on his own. They have to be with him all the time!
The M-She-U is like marriage. I'm not sure none of you guys have experienced this, but ya know how your GF likes things about you, and is attracted to some of the more dangerous aspects of your character. But, then, you marry them and they start wanting you to change everything about yourself, and the things that she found attractive (or at least said she did) are suddenly annoyances to her. Yeah, that's the state of the MCU. Yeah, your motorcycle is hot. Oh, now that we are married we need to get a really expensive minivan, and you (the man) need to "grow up".
I, sadly, know all about this. Lol.
Yeah, like when he really liked how much time and effort you put into your wardrobe, hair, and makeup, and he wants that to continue while at the same time expecting you to beautify the flat/house at no extra expense. 😉 kidding aside, both genders do that guys. That's why a marriage in which both parties are trads are the only consistently happy couples.
And once the man has changed, they say the infamous line " You're not the man i fell in love with ". What comes after that is either cheating, divorce or both!
@@thehussarsjacobitess85 The tradition needs to end, most people shouldn't get married. Insecure people do it because they want their partner contractually trapped with them, but that sounds bad so it's marketed as being about love instead
Hey, don't insult marriage like that. xD
That moment when Guyladriel pulled the sword from the stone to defeat skynet before the dinosaurs took over the planet was breathtaking. I've never been so inspired!
M-She-U snapped her finger and all the male characters vanishes into thin air
Looks like this time the Endgame for the small handful of remaining male characters won't work.
Marvel Comics (in the past 2 years or so):
Elektra - Daredevil No 2.
Brielle Brooks - Blade's daughter aka New Blade (smt'n)
Jackie “Jacks” Chopra - Black Knight's daughter.
Clea Strange - New Dr. Strange.
Okaye - Best Iron Fist evah (for like 3 panels).
Betsy Braddock - New Captain Britain. (Every Captain Britain from every universe is a Woman)
Dr. Ashley Kafka - Queen Goblin (replacing Green Goblin).
Kara Killgrave - New Purple Woman.
Francine Frye - New Electro.
I got all this just from reading the solicitations. There maybe more...
It's a constant "oh, you were assuming it could be THAT way? No, it's this way."
I would imagine enough people are getting tired of paying money only to get that message anymore.
Strong female character = specifically can't be marginalized by any men in the film
At least we still have Shang Chi, Dr. Strange, and Spiderman.
Winter Soldier, Moon Knight, tons of Netflix characters... but I suppose they'll turn evil or be killed off by Phase 6.
As a woman, I have literally no interest in these female-heavy movies, particularly in action flicks. I want attractive, strong men to play those parts, why wouldn't I? We're not all lesbians out here ffs.
Whenever I hear the word "Strong Woman" In any kind of story I think oh great shes gonna be unlikable
Yes no charm have no style or independent thought and definitely not compassionate 😂
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BLM: Black Lesbian Matriarchy
Honestly, the thing that is going to be a light in the dark tunnel of Phase 4 will be GOTG Holiday Special, considering the track record of James Gunn and the GOTG films!
My favorite part is how when you point it out “they” then call you sexist etc meanwhile they are literally downgrading half the audience in almost every film.
Don’t forget female Loki.
The best part is EVERYONE already forgot her.
@@Laneous14 Who? xD
Never heard of her
I watched Loki and kept thinking I wish they would get rid of that annoying woman. There's no way rocking tough Loki, would suddenly start crying for someone to love him without a LOT more work. A few hours in a time loop - no. I mean, he fell into a WORM HOLE, right? And this kneeing in the balls bit I ALWAYS find insulting to men. Loki would have slapped her right back. And as far as female Loki was concerned, there was no way a woman would be physically stronger than him, not unless he was sucker punched. Weak, crying Loki was just insulting to the entire gender.
A love story with Loki would be more like All About Eve. Fasten Your Seatbelts It's going to be a Bumpy Night. Kicking and Screaming all the way, full of double entendres and diva comments. That's the persona they had for him. On HIS terms. And he would take a LONG time to figure it out. And I could see him finding the way, but he'd be a lot more angry about it, just like he was with his brother and mother. But God forbid an angry strong man.
She doesn’t want to be called Loki
So as far as I’m concerned Loki doesn’t have a female counterpart
I'm legit not interested in the MCU anymore. I mean the M-SHE-U
The MCU hasn't been close to decent since Endgame. (Besides No Way Home)
Haven't watched any of these woke trainwrecks since then and not one feeling I'm missing anything.
Multiverse Madness was also pretty decent, mainly cause you could see Sam Raimi's fingerprints all over it trying desperately to keep the film's head above water.
You're right, you haven't missed anything other than some cringe lol
@@filipvadas7602 mom is worst phase 4 movie imo hmmm maybe after black widow
I called that out on one MCU post and I was told that im afraid of women🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't the arguement that if people weren't represented in movies they wouldn't go see them? #MyMoneyMyChoice
This could not have been a more accurate take.
I went in expecting Wokanda forever to be a complete piece of shit, especially since it had professional fictional victim "Riri Williams" in it. But watching it after She-hulk being the last marvel thing I watched black panther was fucking high art. Lol
Shit is still shit, failure forever is shit
@@TheNightman. no arguments from me. Both are kinda shit but she-hulk is the shittier shit. Lol
@natma relnam it's like eating something sour to make something else taste sweet. Lmao
Soooo refreshing to hear honest, well-thought observations on what is happening in entertainment. Absolutely fantastic work guys!
Meh. Some of it is well thought out, some isn't.
Ripley was a strong female character but her thing was she was a timid crew chick that would impress the guys by willing to work. Then she has to become a badass to protect the little girl. It meant something
I'm more and more convinced that Disney is applying Agile and Lean project management tactics to film making (a terrible terrible idea). They work with a minimal script, film sequences (sprints) with multiple outcomes, test them on audiences and film a new batch of sequences based on reaction. They do that with multple plot threads to optimise "user satisfaction". Then they edit the whole soup back together. That's the only explanation I have for the mess that where their last movies (it's midely enjoyable mess, I give you that)
LOL, your theory might just have some merit. I can see how that approach would result in the final product.
Dorothy and Scarlet O’Hara are the two best realized female characters in the history of Hollywood. Both had fantastic arcs. Both from 1939.
Yes, and in fact The Wizard of Oz is totally feminist. Only the female characters have agency (Dorothy , Glinda, the Wicked Witch, even Aunty Em), while the males are all feckless and only rise to the occasion because of Dorothy‘s example.
Ripley, Sarah Conner, Nikita, hell, even Leeloo - all started off weak, lost, confused, etc, then rose to the challenge by becoming strong. It makes them relatable, gives them an arc, makes us appreciate their struggle and root for their victory. They earn our investment. This new trend of "perfect in every way right out of the box" is the exact opposite of that, and it's just boring. Then they have to double down and, as the lads say in this vid, straight up tell us that these characters are "strong, independant girl-bosses who don't need no man" - usually by having her emasculate every single male character within a mile. There's no subtlety at all.
That early loading dock scene in Aliens, where Ripley gets the nod of approval from Hicks after she surprises them by expertly piloting the loader mech is a great example of how you show a woman is strong without bringing sexism into it. The Marines weren't dismissive of her abilities because she was a woman - it was because she was a civilian with an honorary rank and no actual training. She knew they saw her as a liability (as did she) and she saw an opportunity to prove she wasn't, both to the Marines and herself. Simple scene, massive development moment, showed without telling, and respective genders never came into it. That's how it's done.
One of the great parts of that writing choice is how it directly ties into events later. That isn't just there to show her earning their approval, it's the foreshadowing of the big climax of the film. A merely competent writer (not that those aren't rare in the business these days) can do one thing with a scene. A great writer is doing multiple things. (Often the result of drafting and realizing 'Oh wait, I can do the job of both of theses scenes with this new scene instead!' in the process.)
@@Sorain1 Another great example is the rifle-lesson scene.
It establishes the capabilities and operation of the rifle, explains Ripley's ability to use it later, shows Ripley's discomfort with violence, shows her understanding that she has to overcome that discomfort under the circumstances, gives Hicks some character development, and introduces a suggestion of romantic interest between the two.
The movie is filled with these hard-working bits -- even during the planning-table scene, where it's consistently Hicks who pays attention to Newt (noticing her reaching for the grenade and then putting her up on the table so she can see). This foreshadows his easy acceptance of Ripley's "let's save Newt" behavior later, because we've already seen a little of his paternal side.
Emily Blunt's character Rita in Edge of Tomorrow is a strong female character from day one, but the writers perfectly justified why with her backstory. The "stronk woman" has become such a trope that I'm not sure Rita would play as well now as she did in 2014. Kudos to Emily Blunt for speaking out.
Marvel is simply not worth watching anymore. True “feminism” ended a long while ago, where women fought to have the right to vote, but today’s feminism is about eliminating men from the drawing board.
I saw this happening with ‘strong’ 15 years ago!
can you elaborate?
Emily Blunt was mentioned...her character in Sicario was perfect. Intelligent, strong moral compass, capable but still vulnerable.
Just how badly do they have to fail before recognising how screwed they are?
For me that was back when they forgot whose their paying audience is and buying all those seats to make those movies appear successful only adds to the amount they need to make a profit!
Wasn't that news about layoffs enough of a wake up call?
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I was going to support the M-She-U, but then realised that I wasn't being represented. And I have been repeatedly told that a person can't go see a movie if the are not represented. Alas
Also, the only one who was replaced was the Ancient One. All the others are actually from the comics.
BTW I had subscribed for the channel of George weeks ago and miraculously this subscription was canceled at some time in secret by YT. Not the first time this has happened!
Right after reading this, I checked my sub and found that I'd been shadow-unsubbed, too. wtf, YT?
@@AJShelden Funny that this happened only with YT channels of a very specific political orientation. E.g I was also shadow-unsubscribed from the newsmax channel TWICE!
This is spot on. The MSheU is on their way to being the WNBA. Which women love and support more than the NBA right? You go ladies, you got this. #BlackPantherWomanKingForever
Bill Burr: "Ladies, if you supported the WNBA like you do a fat woman who is no longer a threat to you, you'd be making more money than the NBA!"
In an alternate world they actually used talented writers to cultivate great stories for their already expansive cast of great female heroes and had their all female avengers that didn’t feel forced or derivative. While also retaining their fanbase! Shocking thought.
Men spend generations building up a product of value, and then women take it over and run it into the ground.
Phase 4 really is the turning point where people starting to dislike MCU
Edit: I refer to those “people” as the casual/general audience. Critical MCU fans already started to notice after Captain Marvel and Endgame
I already started having some issues with the MCU in Phase 3, but Phase 4 has made me thoroughly dislike the MCU.
@@Missjunebugfreak I'd say it started with Captain Marvel. Not that there weren't good films after that but that was the first sign of trouble. Of course let's not forget the scene in End Game where they made a point of having all the women come together at one time to fight. That was their bold statement of where they were going.
Yeah dude. My mate was like " you HAVE to see Cap. Marvel in order to get End Game and I said Nah. The movie did nothing and Cap. Marvel was barely in End Game because all her colleagues hated her
Phase 2 was when it went shit. Half of phase 1 wasn't that great either.
@@kildotgaming Phase 1 and 2 were hit and miss and Phase 4 is no different, really
Having strong women in movies is cool, but it is logical to have more strong men, as this is the nature of things. I miss males heroes in movies and I also am really tired of watching mostly old movies to avoid the woke stuff. And then, as a woman, being strong does not mean being a "self-righteous bitch", that has nothing to do with women. Nikita is a cool movie, totally agree.
Agree larissa. As soon as fans hear "strong empowered woman" they fall asleep,vomit and switch off. The way Hollywood writes female characters in no way represents real women. Hollywood seems to think strong means obnoxious,rude,unappealing,graceless and generally not someone you would wish to hang around with. Its ridiculous. They write women as essentially the worst elements of anyone in a female "skin". Strength is shown in many different ways (not that so called strength should be shoehorned into everything,many people are not) and comes in many different forms. The (extremely clumsy and unwanted) force fed agenda of Hollywood is going to kill the industry. No one is interested in this crap. People just want good tales told well.
And no one buys the merchandise anymore
Why would I be interested in buying merchandise for a lot of these female characters in the MCU?
And they've eliminated men from the movie seats as well! Well done Marvel!!
7:00 Hawkeye having cereal with family would be better than most of what we got lately
I'm still waiting for the Ex-Men movies.
I bet it will all black,non binary and transgender as well. The 3 people paying to watch it are known by name…
People always mention Ripley and Sarah Connor (quite rightly) but it amazes me that Lisbeth Salander doesn't get mentioned. Goth bisexual hacker who can kick ass
Also shout out to George mentioning Nikita. Luc Besson's Anna is also good
Clarice Starling
Because she's troubled as shit, and her "bisexuality" is almost a clear consequence of her fear of men, as her father was a molesting cunt, nowadays that's also a no-go
One of the best badass female scene is in the Spy who loved me. That scene when Anya presses the right button on the Lotus and nonchalantly says she saw the plans in the Kremlin years ago. And even "toxic" males celebrate Barbara Bach.
Yeah, it's not just an influx of female leads. All male leads are *surrounded* by women who are just as strong and capable as they are, if not more so. It's suffocating.
Jane died. There is no female Thor.
What people forget is every female character in a horror movie that survived and killed the killer at the end. Thats hundreds of female characters going back to 70's or earlier? Weird for the woke to think strong female characrers is a new thing.
Please keep making bad films , these channels are so entertaining
A truly strong person does not need to tell anyone they are strong, they just go about their business and people can tell that they are strong. When I am told a person is strong, I immediately feel they either are not truly strong, or they likely have underserved or poorly written strength.
If a person has to explain to you how 3-dimensional they are they never had a personality to begin with.
It’s not that they just replaced the male characters they had to destroy them and denigrate their legacy.