These tech videos just serve to prove that to have a good RUclips channel you have to be as much software engineer and editor as you are speaker and bike rider. Especially with several layers of overlays. Well done to you and others that spend so much time behind the scenes to make a 10 minute video we listen to while riding!
If Garmin aren't going to maintain their own software I wish they'd just release the source code and let the user community fix issues and keep it running.
I don't use VIRB or any cameras, however, watching you ride through the forest whilst I sat on the trainer doing 3 x 10min threshold intervals with some dance music pumping out was a great distraction! Cheers Shane.
So the band-aid sudo-solution for me as of Oct 13, 2023 (since the prior workaround doesn't seem to work anymore): 1. Import the continuous gopro video segments. 2. Add same fit data to each video segment along with your gauge template. Click yes to all script error prompts. 3. Use g-matrix for 1st video segment. In the g-matrix adjustment screen, do not change the left side gopro video starting point (leave it as is which is at the beginning of the video segment). Only adjust the right side fit data slider to match the beginning of the video. This will set the *baseline additive amount of time value* for all of the subsequent video segments, so you'll want to verify and make sure it matches as close as possible. (Mine turned out to be 1:27 [1 min 27 sec] for the 1st segment.) 4. SUBTRACT 10 seconds from your *baseline additive amount of time value*. (So from my example, I take 1:27 and subtract 10 seconds, and value becomes 1:17) 5. Next, you'll see that each subsequent gopro video segment has a starting time in VIRB timeline. Mine was showing 11:47, 23:35, 35:23, 47:10, etc. 6. For each of these subsequent gopro video segments, edit g-matrix, add the value from step 4 (1:17) to each of the starting time and adjust only the right side fit data slider. (So my 2nd video segment would be adjusted to 13:04) [to be clear: 11:47 + 1:17 = 13:04]. My 3rd video segment would be adjusted to 24:02 [23:35 + 1:17 = 24:52], etc. 7. As you perform step 6, you might find that you can't adjust the slide to exact calculated value, since you can't use the arrows and have to rely on the slider. In this case, do your best to adjust to the closest number you can set to the calculated value (best fit seems to be just a little higher than the calculated value). Good luck.
Yep, nice trick! Found it out myself recently through another website. Hope the Virb Edit keeps working. Strange that nobody else made a decent alternative for such video overlays yet!? 🤷♂
Any idea how to fix “ error playing video “ message I get on a MacBook Air? I was able to edit on Virb edit at least 1 time with GoPro 10 , but now get error
@biking chupei no, in indoor track, the gps reception on my Garmin820 is really poor, so it doesn't even follow the track particularly well, let alone it would clearly show an intentional zigzag...
I wish they had updated it to be able to overlay your current gear selections - the data is in the fit file thanks to Di2 / eTap but there is no way to display that data?
As a heads up, seems like this fix no longer works as of a week or two ago. I was able to get this working last year, but it wasn't working for me today despite the registry entry still existing. Tried deleting and adding it back, but still ran into the same issue. Poked around on the Garmin forums/Reddit and appears that everyone else is seeing the same thing. Hoping someone will be able to pinpoint what the issue is.
So the band-aid sudo-solution for me as of Oct 13, 2023 (since the prior workaround doesn't seem to work anymore): 1. Import the continuous gopro video segments. 2. Add same fit data to each video segment along with your gauge template. Click yes to all script error prompts. 3. Use g-matrix for 1st video segment. In the g-matrix adjustment screen, do not change the left side gopro video starting point (leave it as is which is at the beginning of the video segment). Only adjust the right side fit data slider to match the beginning of the video. This will set the *baseline additive amount of time value* for all of the subsequent video segments, so you'll want to verify and make sure it matches as close as possible. (Mine turned out to be 1:27 [1 min 27 sec] for the 1st segment.) 4. SUBTRACT 10 seconds from your *baseline additive amount of time value*. (So from my example, I take 1:27 and subtract 10 seconds, and value becomes 1:17) 5. Next, you'll see that each subsequent gopro video segment has a starting time in VIRB timeline. Mine was showing 11:47, 23:35, 35:23, 47:10, etc. 6. For each of these subsequent gopro video segments, edit g-matrix, add the value from step 4 (1:17) to each of the starting time and adjust only the right side fit data slider. (So my 2nd video segment would be adjusted to 13:04) [to be clear: 11:47 + 1:17 = 13:04]. My 3rd video segment would be adjusted to 24:02 [23:35 + 1:17 = 24:52], etc. 7. As you perform step 6, you might find that you can't adjust the slide to exact calculated value, since you can't use the arrows and have to rely on the slider. In this case, do your best to adjust to the closest number you can set to the calculated value (best fit seems to be just a little higher than the calculated value). Good luck.
@@MazingerZX this is great detail, but it's so lame that virb edit doesn't work to get data overlay. there is no way you can get data overlay for free anywhere that's crazy
They're a little tricky. The Garmin Edge x40 range have a hidden option in beta firmware that'll save two screenshots every second. 7,200 BMP files every hour... I import those into Final Cut and create a video of the Garmin screen then import that into my projects. Messy.. but better than nothing. The newer Elemnt units have a direct screen record option from the debug screen which saves as a MP4 movie. It is wonderful.
Thanks for the tips! Does the speed information in this particular video also come from a standalone GPS or it's internal to the camera? It looks really nice and super smooth.. so I was wondering if it's standard 1Hz GPS rate, that virb edit then automatically smoothen? Or is it a faster GPS rate from the camera?
The datafields under the Climbpro screen, are they fixed 2 positions, or can you change that to 1 larger field so you can use the MapDashboard CIQ field there?
It works fine as far as I can tell on my M1 Pro 14 inch Pro chip. Got Virb 360 and Ultra 30 not come across a problem with the Virb Edit app I agree however, hardware aside, update the software to optimise for Apple Silicone and I will be over the moon. It’s a tidy application
I would like to make my video with fit file for one hour long. I found that it only works with one clip which is just 25 mins. If I use four clips then the map I got only for this first clip. Can someone help me here? Thanks.
I found a software that is $150. A one time fee. It will automatically sync the video about 90% of the time. I thought $150 was pretty steep, but after using it, its well worth that price.
Thank you Shane for this video, however, I'm still getting the same error on Windows 10 after applying the fix. Anyone else has/had the same issue and found a fix for it?
@@gplama Thank you for your swift answer. What are you using now? What do you recommend? Is there any solution which is not unreasonably overpriced? 😊
@@Alimarek This is something I've been looking into... and the summary is I don't have a good answer. Yet. The new action cams from Insta360 and DJI claim to have data overlays and even Garmin API links. However it requires jumping through a few hoops to use, most notably for DJI - only using their mobile app to do the overlays. That's a no-go for me. Telemetry Overlay is what I'm thinking of purchasing to test/trial. I'm holding out for any Black Friday/Cyber Monday pricing in a few weeks.
@@gplama Thanks. That is exactly what I'm also exploring now. Insta360 claims to have the overlay in the new Studio update. I did not test it yet. What worked for me so far, and you can check it, is Dashware. Maybe you are already familiar with it.
I am on Windows 11 and I dont see the dot when trying to align the map. I can see the map but no dot which makes it very difficult to align the video (nearly impossible) Anyone else have a fix?
RUclips rewards watch time and channels who they can feed more ads to. Videos longer than 8 minutes will have mid-roll ads... which is why people who make content to maximise their earnings will always publish videos just over 8 minutes in length.
These tech videos just serve to prove that to have a good RUclips channel you have to be as much software engineer and editor as you are speaker and bike rider. Especially with several layers of overlays. Well done to you and others that spend so much time behind the scenes to make a 10 minute video we listen to while riding!
If Garmin aren't going to maintain their own software I wish they'd just release the source code and let the user community fix issues and keep it running.
there is a person maintaining the telemetry overlay software for gps units. 3rd party, but works with alot more devices than just garmin hardware.
@@lars_atx who and what software?
This solution is working for Windows 10 since last June and I'm happy to finally see a big channel talking about it ! Thanks for the ride 🙂
I don't use VIRB or any cameras, however, watching you ride through the forest whilst I sat on the trainer doing 3 x 10min threshold intervals with some dance music pumping out was a great distraction! Cheers Shane.
Hi Shane, thanks for posting this. I managed to get it to work on my Windows 10 PC. Regards, Jad.
I’ve fixed it in 2 windows 10 machines. So happy to have the data overlays back
Thank you, I've been holding off on doing videos because of the hassle of putting on the data overlays.
Great seeing the bush and what a sweet road you have to play on. Your song request to Siri was picked up by my Homepod and started playing it😅.
hahahh! Was that Wolf Alice - Smile? I can't recall. Such a brilliant track if it was.
So the band-aid sudo-solution for me as of Oct 13, 2023 (since the prior workaround doesn't seem to work anymore):
1. Import the continuous gopro video segments.
2. Add same fit data to each video segment along with your gauge template. Click yes to all script error prompts.
3. Use g-matrix for 1st video segment. In the g-matrix adjustment screen, do not change the left side gopro video starting point (leave it as is which is at the beginning of the video segment). Only adjust the right side fit data slider to match the beginning of the video. This will set the *baseline additive amount of time value* for all of the subsequent video segments, so you'll want to verify and make sure it matches as close as possible. (Mine turned out to be 1:27 [1 min 27 sec] for the 1st segment.)
4. SUBTRACT 10 seconds from your *baseline additive amount of time value*. (So from my example, I take 1:27 and subtract 10 seconds, and value becomes 1:17)
5. Next, you'll see that each subsequent gopro video segment has a starting time in VIRB timeline. Mine was showing 11:47, 23:35, 35:23, 47:10, etc.
6. For each of these subsequent gopro video segments, edit g-matrix, add the value from step 4 (1:17) to each of the starting time and adjust only the right side fit data slider. (So my 2nd video segment would be adjusted to 13:04) [to be clear: 11:47 + 1:17 = 13:04]. My 3rd video segment would be adjusted to 24:02 [23:35 + 1:17 = 24:52], etc.
7. As you perform step 6, you might find that you can't adjust the slide to exact calculated value, since you can't use the arrows and have to rely on the slider. In this case, do your best to adjust to the closest number you can set to the calculated value (best fit seems to be just a little higher than the calculated value).
Good luck.
Oh wow. I've missed virb edit so much. I didn't even look up the problem because I thought it was just my computer.
Yep, nice trick! Found it out myself recently through another website. Hope the Virb Edit keeps working. Strange that nobody else made a decent alternative for such video overlays yet!? 🤷♂
There are alternatives but you have to pay 😉
Any idea how to fix “ error playing video “ message I get on a MacBook Air?
I was able to edit on Virb edit at least 1 time with GoPro 10 , but now get error
There's one called telemetry something. But it costs over 100. Fucking dream on pal.
Enjoyed that video, thankyou... Stunning area to ride
Have you ever tried or checked out 'Telemetry Overlay'?
Not working here, once I did the trick and entry to sync data, Virb crash.
I tried the fix today but it doesn't work anymore, there are some Reddit comments saying the same.
No way!! Thanks! The hard part is if you doing laps trying to sync it up.
Right! Took me ages to get my data and video from indoor track riding sync-ed, as the gps data is pretty useless there anyway!
you could do a short ZigZag on your bike and it will be easy to sync that portion up.
@biking chupei no, in indoor track, the gps reception on my Garmin820 is really poor, so it doesn't even follow the track particularly well, let alone it would clearly show an intentional zigzag...
I wish they had updated it to be able to overlay your current gear selections - the data is in the fit file thanks to Di2 / eTap but there is no way to display that data?
No way with VIRB Edit to do this.
As a heads up, seems like this fix no longer works as of a week or two ago. I was able to get this working last year, but it wasn't working for me today despite the registry entry still existing. Tried deleting and adding it back, but still ran into the same issue. Poked around on the Garmin forums/Reddit and appears that everyone else is seeing the same thing. Hoping someone will be able to pinpoint what the issue is.
Hmmm. Keep me posted if you find a fix to the fix. 👌🏼
So the band-aid sudo-solution for me as of Oct 13, 2023 (since the prior workaround doesn't seem to work anymore):
1. Import the continuous gopro video segments.
2. Add same fit data to each video segment along with your gauge template. Click yes to all script error prompts.
3. Use g-matrix for 1st video segment. In the g-matrix adjustment screen, do not change the left side gopro video starting point (leave it as is which is at the beginning of the video segment). Only adjust the right side fit data slider to match the beginning of the video. This will set the *baseline additive amount of time value* for all of the subsequent video segments, so you'll want to verify and make sure it matches as close as possible. (Mine turned out to be 1:27 [1 min 27 sec] for the 1st segment.)
4. SUBTRACT 10 seconds from your *baseline additive amount of time value*. (So from my example, I take 1:27 and subtract 10 seconds, and value becomes 1:17)
5. Next, you'll see that each subsequent gopro video segment has a starting time in VIRB timeline. Mine was showing 11:47, 23:35, 35:23, 47:10, etc.
6. For each of these subsequent gopro video segments, edit g-matrix, add the value from step 4 (1:17) to each of the starting time and adjust only the right side fit data slider. (So my 2nd video segment would be adjusted to 13:04) [to be clear: 11:47 + 1:17 = 13:04]. My 3rd video segment would be adjusted to 24:02 [23:35 + 1:17 = 24:52], etc.
7. As you perform step 6, you might find that you can't adjust the slide to exact calculated value, since you can't use the arrows and have to rely on the slider. In this case, do your best to adjust to the closest number you can set to the calculated value (best fit seems to be just a little higher than the calculated value).
Good luck.
@@MazingerZX this is great detail, but it's so lame that virb edit doesn't work to get data overlay. there is no way you can get data overlay for free anywhere that's crazy
Thank you very much!
Virb Edit is the best, I’ve tried many others but nothing works as well as VE did.
Hello, how do you place the Edge screen in the video? How do you record the screen and then place it in the video?
How do we fix the constant uninstall / reinstall issue? I can only use the program if I uninstall and reinstall each time.
It’s probably time to find an alternative program. This has been on life support for years now.
@@gplama Haven't found anything else that is free unfortunately.
Hi Shane, can you tell me how to put the video recorder on the garmin screen
Thanks
How do you import power in watt too? there is no way to import TCX file and if I convert TCX to GPX the power is loss
Using FIT activity files for these overlays is best.
Thanks for that Shane . Any chance you can explain how you get the head unit displays onto the video?
They're a little tricky.
The Garmin Edge x40 range have a hidden option in beta firmware that'll save two screenshots every second. 7,200 BMP files every hour... I import those into Final Cut and create a video of the Garmin screen then import that into my projects. Messy.. but better than nothing.
The newer Elemnt units have a direct screen record option from the debug screen which saves as a MP4 movie. It is wonderful.
Thanks for the tips! Does the speed information in this particular video also come from a standalone GPS or it's internal to the camera? It looks really nice and super smooth.. so I was wondering if it's standard 1Hz GPS rate, that virb edit then automatically smoothen? Or is it a faster GPS rate from the camera?
Are you on the Aspero? How rough can the terrain get before the Aspero won't do the job?
Yep. It depends what wheels/tyres you have on, I guess. The Aspero with 650b and 47mm tyres can bounce around on rough stuff pretty well.
The datafields under the Climbpro screen, are they fixed 2 positions, or can you change that to 1 larger field so you can use the MapDashboard CIQ field there?
Currently fixed to two fields. I'd love to have a single field for your exact suggestion of using MapDashboard on that screen.
Hi there. I'm using Windows 11 22H2 and Virb Edit works fine.
It works fine as far as I can tell on my M1 Pro 14 inch Pro chip. Got Virb 360 and Ultra 30 not come across a problem with the Virb Edit app
I agree however, hardware aside, update the software to optimise for Apple Silicone and I will be over the moon. It’s a tidy application
I would like to make my video with fit file for one hour long. I found that it only works with one clip which is just 25 mins. If I use four clips then the map I got only for this first clip. Can someone help me here? Thanks.
Join the video files with other software and import the single 1hr video.
any way to fix in Mac for youtube upload or export?
One for the Garmin Support forums.
@@gplama thanks. It did work export today but still not sure how to authorise youtube share.
as of May 29th 2024 none of the workarounds seem to work for windows 10. This is a sad. What is Garmin thinking?
yeah same. i give up!
I found a software that is $150. A one time fee. It will automatically sync the video about 90% of the time. I thought $150 was pretty steep, but after using it, its well worth that price.
Thank you Shane for this video, however, I'm still getting the same error on Windows 10 after applying the fix. Anyone else has/had the same issue and found a fix for it?
It's been a while since I looped back to Virb Edit. It may have finally died after being abandoned by Garmin.
@@gplama Thank you for your swift answer. What are you using now? What do you recommend? Is there any solution which is not unreasonably overpriced? 😊
@@Alimarek This is something I've been looking into... and the summary is I don't have a good answer. Yet. The new action cams from Insta360 and DJI claim to have data overlays and even Garmin API links. However it requires jumping through a few hoops to use, most notably for DJI - only using their mobile app to do the overlays. That's a no-go for me. Telemetry Overlay is what I'm thinking of purchasing to test/trial. I'm holding out for any Black Friday/Cyber Monday pricing in a few weeks.
@@gplama Thanks. That is exactly what I'm also exploring now. Insta360 claims to have the overlay in the new Studio update. I did not test it yet. What worked for me so far, and you can check it, is Dashware. Maybe you are already familiar with it.
I am on Windows 11 and I dont see the dot when trying to align the map. I can see the map but no dot which makes it very difficult to align the video (nearly impossible) Anyone else have a fix?
A shame Garmin went this way with the Virb. A proper front safety camera as a partner to the latest Varia 7x would be a better option. C'mon Garmin.
dumb question: why did doing the longer video make youtube happy? Not saying it didn't make ME happy, just curious :)
RUclips rewards watch time and channels who they can feed more ads to. Videos longer than 8 minutes will have mid-roll ads... which is why people who make content to maximise their earnings will always publish videos just over 8 minutes in length.
fuck yeah
The best bike shit reviewer...you should be featured in NBC Tour De France
Haha! I’m just someone who enjoys bikes and tinkering with tech. If these videos can help others, I’m happy.
has anybody use Telemetry Overlay?
too damn expensive.
I threw away my Virb... One of the reason that I won't buy any new Garmin product. They let us all dry