What do you think of the training pros are currently doing? 🚴♂️ Do you find it as interesting as Dan does, or do you feel there's something to it that takes anything away from the sport? 🤔
Absolutely, anything where you have access beyond that of a regular fan / cyclist is very interesting. This style and those that take retired pro cyclists and use them as guinea pigs for methods and test the outcome are very interesting and possibly useful.
Love it! We amateurs and enthusiasts get an idea of what the pros do for training. Not necessarily to change our way of riding, which targets fun mainly. But it is great to learn, much like watching videos about superbikes, which most do not want to or can’t pay for. Thanks GCN!
Thanks GCN. Fascinating. More focus, more detail, more comparative pressure, longer uninterrupted seasons… Productivity has increased in cycling as it has in all industry across the board. The openness of Jeroen, Jack and Toms was a gift. Thank you all for the cycling and personal insights.
Dan, This content is exactly what most cyclists are looking for since the majority of cyclists can't afford coaches. When I raced 20 years ago my training was based on my coaches guide. Nutrition knowledge was so much different than it is today. I started training again for UCI Gran Fondo races and I am now following the new training style and nutrition and I can say that my power numbers are higher than when I was racing. Of course my recovery is longer due to my age, But I can say that I make gains every week. I encourage everyone that really wants to improve their cycling abilities to learn the newest training system.
I unsubscribed many years ago due to this channel basically becoming an advert platform, but I've been surprised by quite a few videos these last months. Glad to be back!
This type of content is really *the* thing GCN needed the last years. Videos for getting people into the sport, explaining the basics or just for entertainment are great and much needed - but this type of content for "nerds" or those who want to start deep diving cycling was missing. Great work!
Thanks so much for the support of GCN! Stories from Lloydy at Cervelo? We don’t remember him riding for them! Let’s see if we can get Dan to dust off the storybook!
I guess what would be interesting is how to apply the current professional training methods to an amateur level where you don't have all the resources and maybe cannot be bothered.
Yeah, there has to be a very cool video about the differences between available time and budget. We’ve gotten smaller snippets of that with the distance challenges in the past, but more structure would be bettee
This is the content we want, proper deep dives into subjects, with great expert insight. I got back into cycling aged 49, massively overweight and unhealthy. I've progressed to racing, have a personal coach, a tailored training programme and ride better and stronger than I did when I was a teenager. I gained my Cat 3 licence last year and don't plan on giving this up anytime soon.
I love these „Dan goes in depth“ type of videos. The topic of muscular fatigue seems a good candidate for a closer look. Low cadence on a 45min alpine climb is surely different from low cadence on the Koppenberg. I would also be interested in Dan doing a typical training day when he was a pro with all the old kit. How did you track your data? I remember Polar watches an infrared interfaces but nothing close to a modern Garmin.
Love shows like these. Structured training via Zwift changed my life. Losing weight, getting fitter, sleeping well and generally feeling better overall. Keep up the good work
Excellent work!! I really liked how you took breaks from the interviews to summarize and insert your own experience. Also splicing the interviews together in such a way that they all answered the same questions back to back, without having to lead into the topic over and over again with each subject. Great video!!
Definitely would like to see more of this type of content. It’s pretty clear that there is a lot of progress/advance going on which even mere mortals like me can benefit from. Please continue spreading the word to us. Thanks
As a fitness professional, I appreciate this content. I was a swimmer and coach. This science has been used for 40 years in swimming, glad to see it finally being utilized in cycling.
Would love to get some more of these that really drill down into specific questions . For example how to predict /measure overtraining and optimize recovery so the rider can plan ahead
As a racer and coach who started coaching seriously in the late 1980s and in the early 1990s built the first coaching certification system for the USCF, this is the best GCN educational video I’ve seen. Period. Tremendous!
Loving content such as this, not just in a sense to get some sort of idea of how great the pros are in terms of fitness, but also to look at myself and how I train (on a match lower dumbed-down version) - but it’s a good insight into the science behind what we do and how we work.
This is a fantastic video, addressing the science and practice of training is fascinating and I'd welcome more. So many pros (and non-pros) stress enjoyment as important. I'd suggest that Tadej's popularity is due as much to his cheerfulness and sportsmanship as it is to his incredible physical ability. Something i would welcome being explored too.
I love hearing about the training and really enjoy your approach. Nice to hear that there is some chance that it’s not just more doping that’s making the peloton faster than ever.
I‘m absolutely loving this type of content - pls. keep producing them. The last comment from Toms - i find very interesting. I came from a track & field background as an under 20yr before launching my professional career in the IT, eventualy becoming a business owner. I believe that the lifestyle being taught in sports makes every single athlete a very valuable member of our society because it shows teaches you how to work for goals over a longer period of time, how to overcome difficult periods, how to adapt and reflect, how to measure progress, how consistency always beats pure talent. So living a normal life after your sports career becomes easier, if you understand that all you learned can be carried over and applied in any other lifestyle!
Dan this is exactly what we want - so much better than the period you guys went through that was like '10 ways I can lean my bike up against something'
More of this content please. I know the pros train differently but the more we can get exposure to the wealth of the experiences of their coaches the better. What I would love even more is for pro coaches to say how they would approach an AG athlete with only say 12 hours a week. You may find that it’s no longer 80-90% in Z2. It might be more threshold work as a percentage. I don’t know but would be interesting to know what the key workouts are and where the diminishing returns are.
I love this channel’s technical analysis in all areas and really enjoyed this one. I’m an oldie IHPVA member rider. We in the 1970’s started the motivation for aero improvement in bike design. My picture was on the cover of Bike World magazine’s July/August issue with I believe the first aero helmet. You’ve even compared aero recumbents with conventional bikes on past episodes. Improvement in all aspects of cycling are likely reaching their upper limits unless recumbent bikes are allowed at some point. It would be great to see a recumbent class in pro racing to get comparable data over various terrains.
Thanks for this report, this is great information. 👏👏👏 The one comment about pros losing functional strength, even at a young age, hit home for me. As an old masters rider, I have certainly experienced those losses, so late last season I started doing low cadence sprints up the steepest grades I could find. They seem to have helped, as my endurance was better, and I was setting PRs on some of the shorter climbs.
GCN is smokin' it in terms of quality output. Personalities and interests seems optimized with pacing and production. All the presenters are hitting on all cylinders. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
Love the content; clearly the tailored individuality of the training is a major change. As the UAE coach stated, Training Peaks only captured external load but now the focus on what is happening internally to a rider is an absolute game changer than leads to a multi-demntiional and target approach to training that simply did not exist in Dan's era.
Yes, more comments like this! I’m particularly interested in everything related to the “process.” Unlike the Performance Process Podcast from the Escape Collective (which I listen to religiously ❤), the video format makes this content easier to follow, especially when it gets fairly technical. Ride On!
This is great content and you should do more of it. HOWEVER: this is specifically regarding pro racers who ride full time. If you could incorporate how this can be applied to regular riders who train 5, 10, 15 hours a week, and how the training needs to be adapted, that would be even better!
Like others, I unsubscribed a couple of years ago as GCN was just larking about and churning out rubbish content but thankfully you have really upped your game and other than the GCN Tech Clinic where some dubious advice is often given, you are now putting out great quality shows so I've re-subscribed. I would also like to praise your production team for the way the shows are shot, scored and edited, it's top class work. I'd like to see more pro team behind the scenes stuff.
I want to see more content like this. I dig the racing, and the what, why and how of what goes into it. That includes the busines side occasionally. [edit] As the video went on, it got better and better. We're fortunate to have access to this kind of info. Thanks!
I’m well past “retired cyclists age” at this point, and have no aspirations of ever becoming pro. I still find the fine tuning of the human body fascinating! Please keep this kind of stuff coming.
Love these contents.. would be interested in interviewing all the presenters about there experiences in the pro peloton… with honest thoughts on training,equipment,lifestyle changes,pressure to perform,mental health and if they experienced or witnessed any Doping with in the peloton when they raced no matter what level they raced at..
Yes, I love this kind of video content. The cycling world is way behind the running-ultra world where the science and coaching methods are readily talk about from videos to podcasts. GCN can lead the way in opening up this info for those of us who care. Thank you!!
Brilliant. You finally discovered the fascinating missing link. Insight in the pro's (training) realities is your basic competence to resch this level of cycolg journalism.
I enjoy videos that give insights into different training philosophies, methods and techniques and I appreciate that at GCN, you do a better job than most in eliciting the "why" not just the "how". If I had a criticism it is that your videos of this nature tend to focus on the world tour level pros - the pinnacle of the sport where their riding lives bear little resemblance to those of most viewers. I'd encourage you to throw in more coverage of pros at lower levels. I'd also personally appreciate more videos exploring the world of track cycling. All the above notwithstanding, you guys do a simply outstanding job producing content 🎉🎉
Great interview Dan - Liked hearing the pros prospective in how the see and feel training has changed for them during their career! I feel training as changed for all sports over the past 20 years with the advancement of collecting data, etc.
What do you think of the training pros are currently doing? 🚴♂️ Do you find it as interesting as Dan does, or do you feel there's something to it that takes anything away from the sport? 🤔
Gr8 content! Thanks!!!🙏
@@MiguelAugusto1982thanks Miguel!
I think there is an elephant in the room that isn't being discussed ;)
@@willpsychmajor3104 monoxide?
It's called T.U.E.
As per request: These journalistic style pro cycling deep dives are absolute gold!
Absolutely, anything where you have access beyond that of a regular fan / cyclist is very interesting. This style and those that take retired pro cyclists and use them as guinea pigs for methods and test the outcome are very interesting and possibly useful.
Thank you so much for the feedback
Agreed!
Fully agree
Love it! We amateurs and enthusiasts get an idea of what the pros do for training. Not necessarily to change our way of riding, which targets fun mainly. But it is great to learn, much like watching videos about superbikes, which most do not want to or can’t pay for. Thanks GCN!
Lloyd taking GCN to the next level. Bring on these kinds of content!
That’s so kind! We’ll continue to do what we can!
So true. You always have had that plus that made me watch back when Matt was present. Thx
Yep
This is gold and exactly the kind of thing that GCN can do expertly that other broadcasters just won’t touch. Thanks so much for putting it together.
Thanks GCN. Fascinating. More focus, more detail, more comparative pressure, longer uninterrupted seasons… Productivity has increased in cycling as it has in all industry across the board. The openness of Jeroen, Jack and Toms was a gift. Thank you all for the cycling and personal insights.
Thanks so much for your feedback.
Dan, This content is exactly what most cyclists are looking for since the majority of cyclists can't afford coaches. When I raced 20 years ago my training was based on my coaches guide. Nutrition knowledge was so much different than it is today. I started training again for UCI Gran Fondo races and I am now following the new training style and nutrition and I can say that my power numbers are higher than when I was racing. Of course my recovery is longer due to my age, But I can say that I make gains every week. I encourage everyone that really wants to improve their cycling abilities to learn the newest training system.
I unsubscribed many years ago due to this channel basically becoming an advert platform, but I've been surprised by quite a few videos these last months. Glad to be back!
Agree 100% 👍🏻
hi! thanks for the comment and we love that we've been able to get you back 🤗
agree!
This type of content is really *the* thing GCN needed the last years. Videos for getting people into the sport, explaining the basics or just for entertainment are great and much needed - but this type of content for "nerds" or those who want to start deep diving cycling was missing. Great work!
Thanks so much for the feedback! Hopefully we can do some more!
I really enjoy this type of content. Something similar with guidance for us decidedly average cyclists who want a good idea how train.
Great to hear! In the future we aim to bring more deep dives into this too!
holy mackerels this is some real high quality video material, kudos dan. Great transparency from everyone especially Jack Haig!
Yes, please give us more, it's super interesting and informative, thanks!
Hey thanks for the comment. We will do our best to deliver more videos like this in the future. Let us know if you have any video ideas. Thanks!
Dan, would actually love for you to share some old Cervelo stories or break down some of the old races as well!
Thanks so much for the support of GCN! Stories from Lloydy at Cervelo? We don’t remember him riding for them!
Let’s see if we can get Dan to dust off the storybook!
Wasn't it just a test team? as in not even a real team :)
@cyc00000 😂
Thanks very much Christopher.
I guess what would be interesting is how to apply the current professional training methods to an amateur level where you don't have all the resources and maybe cannot be bothered.
You can't, because if you could the pros would be doing it.
@@SuperTwiddler I think what he mean is a more "casual" version of pros training. Like Zwift workouts.
Great idea. Tier it so we can see, 20/10/5 hours.
Yeah, there has to be a very cool video about the differences between available time and budget. We’ve gotten smaller snippets of that with the distance challenges in the past, but more structure would be bettee
Same training lower volume . And enjoy it 🚴☕🚴
This is the content we want, proper deep dives into subjects, with great expert insight.
I got back into cycling aged 49, massively overweight and unhealthy. I've progressed to racing, have a personal coach, a tailored training programme and ride better and stronger than I did when I was a teenager. I gained my Cat 3 licence last year and don't plan on giving this up anytime soon.
I love these „Dan goes in depth“ type of videos. The topic of muscular fatigue seems a good candidate for a closer look. Low cadence on a 45min alpine climb is surely different from low cadence on the Koppenberg. I would also be interested in Dan doing a typical training day when he was a pro with all the old kit. How did you track your data? I remember Polar watches an infrared interfaces but nothing close to a modern Garmin.
Love shows like these. Structured training via Zwift changed my life. Losing weight, getting fitter, sleeping well and generally feeling better overall. Keep up the good work
this is brilliant to hear! thank you so much for the comment and sharing your own story
This is fascinating. Love this type of content.
Thank you!
Excellent work!! I really liked how you took breaks from the interviews to summarize and insert your own experience. Also splicing the interviews together in such a way that they all answered the same questions back to back, without having to lead into the topic over and over again with each subject.
Great video!!
Fantastic Dan!!!!!
Best GCN show I have seen in 3 years!
Pure gold
Thanks so much!
Definitely would like to see more of this type of content. It’s pretty clear that there is a lot of progress/advance going on which even mere mortals like me can benefit from. Please continue spreading the word to us. Thanks
Great episode! Hopefully Dan will use some of these techniques to train for his upcoming charity ride and show us amateurs how to do it!
Wow! Thank you for the appreciation! Hopefully Dan has some more videos like this in his locker going forward too!
I'm a big fan of these videos! Dan does a great job conducting these interviews and adding explanatory interludes. Chapeau!
Glad you like them! We’ll see what we can do going forward too
I've been following training trends for a couple of decades - things evolve so these insights are gold
We’re glad to be of help!
These type of videos are some of the most interesting!!
This content about training and science is the most interesting there is, keep it coming !!! Please !!!
As a fitness professional, I appreciate this content. I was a swimmer and coach. This science has been used for 40 years in swimming, glad to see it finally being utilized in cycling.
Would love to get some more of these that really drill down into specific questions . For example how to predict /measure overtraining and optimize recovery so the rider can plan ahead
Let's see what we can do!
As a aspiring young racer this is my favorite type of content
As a racer and coach who started coaching seriously in the late 1980s and in the early 1990s built the first coaching certification system for the USCF, this is the best GCN educational video I’ve seen. Period. Tremendous!
Oh wow, this is so good to hear especially from someone of your experience!
Thanks for the video! Love this sort of long form content
thank you so much for the support!
I loved the in-depth analysis and stuff but I do hope that you do the same program with discussions with women.
Absolutely golden content. Bring more of it
We will do our best!
This is my FAVORITE kind of content! Thanks, guys! And give us more!!!!
Excellent content. Perfect for me in fact. The full interview with Jeroen Swart also a must-watch
Great video - super cool that people were willing to share so much inside info
Another brilliant video from Dan, very inciteful and without bias, absolutely taking GCN to new levels, more please.
thank you so much for the feedback! We'll see what we can do!
Loving content such as this, not just in a sense to get some sort of idea of how great the pros are in terms of fitness, but also to look at myself and how I train (on a match lower dumbed-down version) - but it’s a good insight into the science behind what we do and how we work.
Yes please to this sort of in depth content. Think the quality of the content at the moment is really excellent
I absolutely love these technical videos on training science and techniques that are being used by pro teams. More of this!
I love this kind of content and deep dives into pro-cycling training science and monitoring! As amateur cyclist I can learn a lot from it.
We're so glad!
This is a fantastic video, addressing the science and practice of training is fascinating and I'd welcome more. So many pros (and non-pros) stress enjoyment as important. I'd suggest that Tadej's popularity is due as much to his cheerfulness and sportsmanship as it is to his incredible physical ability. Something i would welcome being explored too.
I love hearing about the training and really enjoy your approach. Nice to hear that there is some chance that it’s not just more doping that’s making the peloton faster than ever.
One of the best videos you have done in a Long time. This is unique and plays to your strengths - more if this please 👍
I‘m absolutely loving this type of content - pls. keep producing them. The last comment from Toms - i find very interesting. I came from a track & field background as an under 20yr before launching my professional career in the IT, eventualy becoming a business owner. I believe that the lifestyle being taught in sports makes every single athlete a very valuable member of our society because it shows teaches you how to work for goals over a longer period of time, how to overcome difficult periods, how to adapt and reflect, how to measure progress, how consistency always beats pure talent. So living a normal life after your sports career becomes easier, if you understand that all you learned can be carried over and applied in any other lifestyle!
This video was so much more investigative than I would have suspected from the thumbnail. I really like these kind of videos!
Besides tech, training is my second favorite aspect of cycling. Thanks for this great content!
Keep this type of content rolling
Dan this is exactly what we want - so much better than the period you guys went through that was like '10 ways I can lean my bike up against something'
More of this content please. I know the pros train differently but the more we can get exposure to the wealth of the experiences of their coaches the better. What I would love even more is for pro coaches to say how they would approach an AG athlete with only say 12 hours a week. You may find that it’s no longer 80-90% in Z2. It might be more threshold work as a percentage. I don’t know but would be interesting to know what the key workouts are and where the diminishing returns are.
LOVE this sort of content!
This is the sort of content which keeps me coming back to GCN, thanks Dan
100% keep this sort of content (and the production quality) coming. Love it. 👊
Thanks so much!
I love hearing about training methodology! It's actually all that really interests me anymore in cycling
I love this channel’s technical analysis in all areas and really enjoyed this one. I’m an oldie IHPVA member rider. We in the 1970’s started the motivation for aero improvement in bike design. My picture was on the cover of Bike World magazine’s July/August issue with I believe the first aero helmet. You’ve even compared aero recumbents with conventional bikes on past episodes. Improvement in all aspects of cycling are likely reaching their upper limits unless recumbent bikes are allowed at some point. It would be great to see a recumbent class in pro racing to get comparable data over various terrains.
yes! More of these please :)
Brilliant video. Very open discussions of riders and coaches. Love it!
Thanks for this report, this is great information. 👏👏👏
The one comment about pros losing functional strength, even at a young age, hit home for me. As an old masters rider, I have certainly experienced those losses, so late last season I started doing low cadence sprints up the steepest grades I could find. They seem to have helped, as my endurance was better, and I was setting PRs on some of the shorter climbs.
Great content and delivery Dan (Thanks to Jeroen, Jack and Tom for participating!) very insightful on the subject.
Love this kind of content. This is what I’m here for.
Yes, this is a great video for an insight into what the pros are doing!! Keep 'em coming!
Great video. I would be very interested in seeing this kind of videos in future.
I enjoy the variety of programing that you currently do, keep up the great work.
This is great! GCN back on track 🫶🏼
Time to start the GCN Science channel! Love these kind of videos 🎉
GCN is smokin' it in terms of quality output. Personalities and interests seems optimized with pacing and production. All the presenters are hitting on all cylinders. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
This kind of content is exactly what I like to see. Thank you, and more please!
I’m really into interviews and content like this. Please keep it up.
I'd say back to classic GCN again, but this is better content than even the OG days. Love to see more like this.
Thank you for the comparing and contrasting, this is just what the world needs now!
Yes please keep these coming, it’s really interesting to find out about these types of topics.
Thanks
Thank you for the support!
Super interesting! Thrilled to see more of that!
I loved this episode, great job. I’m a visual person, would love to see cycling visualize the data better vs. just discussing it during these shows.
Love the content; clearly the tailored individuality of the training is a major change. As the UAE coach stated, Training Peaks only captured external load but now the focus on what is happening internally to a rider is an absolute game changer than leads to a multi-demntiional and target approach to training that simply did not exist in Dan's era.
Yes, more comments like this! I’m particularly interested in everything related to the “process.” Unlike the Performance Process Podcast from the Escape Collective (which I listen to religiously ❤), the video format makes this content easier to follow, especially when it gets fairly technical. Ride On!
Really big fan of this content. More of this please!
YES!! Please keep this kind of content coming.
Yes, please more content like this! Thanks guys!
This is great content and you should do more of it.
HOWEVER: this is specifically regarding pro racers who ride full time. If you could incorporate how this can be applied to regular riders who train 5, 10, 15 hours a week, and how the training needs to be adapted, that would be even better!
Love insights into training methods GCN, thank so much for these videos!
Thank you for reading my article on Velo! I really appreciate it
Like others, I unsubscribed a couple of years ago as GCN was just larking about and churning out rubbish content but thankfully you have really upped your game and other than the GCN Tech Clinic where some dubious advice is often given, you are now putting out great quality shows so I've re-subscribed. I would also like to praise your production team for the way the shows are shot, scored and edited, it's top class work. I'd like to see more pro team behind the scenes stuff.
hi! Thanks so much for giving us another chance - Welcome back 🫶
I want to see more content like this. I dig the racing, and the what, why and how of what goes into it. That includes the busines side occasionally.
[edit] As the video went on, it got better and better. We're fortunate to have access to this kind of info. Thanks!
Love love love this one Dan. Thanks.
Glad you like it!
I’m well past “retired cyclists age” at this point, and have no aspirations of ever becoming pro. I still find the fine tuning of the human body fascinating! Please keep this kind of stuff coming.
I really like this type of content long and detailed, I hope to see more like this in the future
Love these contents.. would be interested in interviewing all the presenters about there experiences in the pro peloton… with honest thoughts on training,equipment,lifestyle changes,pressure to perform,mental health and if they experienced or witnessed any Doping with in the peloton when they raced no matter what level they raced at..
Yes, I love this kind of video content. The cycling world is way behind the running-ultra world where the science and coaching methods are readily talk about from videos to podcasts. GCN can lead the way in opening up this info for those of us who care. Thank you!!
Great content, I'm amazed by how much training they do!
Brilliant. You finally discovered the fascinating missing link.
Insight in the pro's (training) realities is your basic competence to resch this level of cycolg journalism.
Gold, gold, gold. Well done Dan and GCN.
I enjoy videos that give insights into different training philosophies, methods and techniques and I appreciate that at GCN, you do a better job than most in eliciting the "why" not just the "how".
If I had a criticism it is that your videos of this nature tend to focus on the world tour level pros - the pinnacle of the sport where their riding lives bear little resemblance to those of most viewers. I'd encourage you to throw in more coverage of pros at lower levels. I'd also personally appreciate more videos exploring the world of track cycling.
All the above notwithstanding, you guys do a simply outstanding job producing content 🎉🎉
Fantastic video! GCN has been hitting it every time recently!
These videos are why I watch the channel
Jack Haig’s bow on his hoodie perturbs me.
Great interview Dan - Liked hearing the pros prospective in how the see and feel training has changed for them during their career! I feel training as changed for all sports over the past 20 years with the advancement of collecting data, etc.
Loved it Dan. More, more, more please. As a self recognised data nerd I love this type of content.
This is awesome content. Thank you for putting this together.
Our pleasure! Let us know what other videos you would like to see!
I have to say this is right up there with my favourite type of content
Love this! The more specific the better