DID YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ROGUE FROM X-MEN '97?

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  • @kayboy6055
    @kayboy6055 3 месяца назад +3945

    People underestimate how iconic and influential Grace Jones entire persona was back in the day. She literally was the first woman really shaped like a superhero. Like the proportions of a superhero. On a woman.

    • @LuoSon312_G8
      @LuoSon312_G8 3 месяца назад +128

      so, all the haters and "inclusive advocates" are insulting one of the most iconic females in media?

    • @lonew2657
      @lonew2657 3 месяца назад +148

      So you're telling me that Rogue is modeled after a black woman and yet Rogue has no @$$ now.

    • @fufutm2891
      @fufutm2891 3 месяца назад

      @@lonew2657i mean blame that on disney plus ,in the og cartoon she did lol

    • @ReviewRoomie
      @ReviewRoomie 3 месяца назад +189

      I grew up watching Grace Jones...she was before her time. Tall, stunning and unapologetically avant-garde. She used to date Dolph Lundgren and they looked beautiful together, even giving him his big break in HER vehicle, A View To A Kill.
      Edit: Without her, we may never have had our live action He-Man😂

    • @Frimzeey
      @Frimzeey 3 месяца назад +74

      ​@lonew2657 you do realize everything isn't about sexualizing a character, right? Lol, what's wrong with a character just being likable and written well? If you're looking for eye-candy, Google is a free service.

  • @robyeone7976
    @robyeone7976 3 месяца назад +4151

    So, Grace Jones was the inspiration for several NON-BLACK X-Men Characters. 😅

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +1005

      It's funny how that kept happening 😅

    • @rizzo4d901
      @rizzo4d901 3 месяца назад +542

      Well the civil rights movement inspired the whole thing🤷‍♀️

    • @epcarter6
      @epcarter6 3 месяца назад +191

      You can’t make this up lol

    • @trealsteve
      @trealsteve 3 месяца назад +582

      We’re always inspiring, but never thriving.

    • @blazeazurin
      @blazeazurin 3 месяца назад +152

      ​@@trealsteve My guy they're turning almost every original white character black now tf u mean

  • @serenityq26
    @serenityq26 3 месяца назад +2482

    All 70s xmen writers love grace jones cause they also wanted dazzler to look like grace jones

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +170

      I didn't know that about Dazzler! Another short idea. Thanks!

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 3 месяца назад +12

      Where are you getting this SJW garbage from?

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +320

      @@biguy617 You need help.

    • @kobi7955
      @kobi7955 3 месяца назад +138

      ​@@biguy617You're an odd individual mate

    • @JOVONO
      @JOVONO 3 месяца назад +110

      @@biguy617maybe the creators saying this??

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 3 месяца назад +1486

    Grace Jones was a badass in the 80s

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +69

      Agreed, she was!

    • @Dopecheetah
      @Dopecheetah 3 месяца назад +68

      She still is. She just an old badass now.

    • @leeharrison8222
      @leeharrison8222 3 месяца назад +48

      Honey, Grace Jones is STILL a badass!

    • @tanakinskywalker7089
      @tanakinskywalker7089 3 месяца назад +1

      No she wasnt

    • @justcoolin3384
      @justcoolin3384 3 месяца назад +21

      I always think of her scene in Boomerang at the restaurant when her name is mentioned.😂

  • @ligeiasiren4290
    @ligeiasiren4290 3 месяца назад +1001

    IMO Storm's punk look was also inspired by Grace Jones' androgynous look.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +99

      I can see that! Storm's punk look is my favorite. I actually did a short on that a week ago.

    • @coolraul07
      @coolraul07 3 месяца назад +8

      Beat me to it...

    • @Haramu-Fal0
      @Haramu-Fal0 3 месяца назад +17

      Her sorceress look is way better IMO

    • @utteero
      @utteero 3 месяца назад +25

      I always hated the punk look. The classic made her look feminine.

    • @Mari_Izu
      @Mari_Izu 3 месяца назад +32

      ​@@utteero The punk look is as classic as what you call classic, and she's a super hero, she should look badass, not cater to your medieval beauty standards.

  • @jravage77
    @jravage77 3 месяца назад +329

    I always figured Grace Jones inspired 80's 90s Storm.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +39

      She did as well.

    • @jravage77
      @jravage77 3 месяца назад +8

      @Ironmaninfinite I said 80s and 90s Storm not 70s.

    • @el-sig2249
      @el-sig2249 2 месяца назад +1

      And for the that was the only character that reminded me of Grace Jones.

    • @mianfierro4773
      @mianfierro4773 2 месяца назад +1

      Iman looks more like Storm.

    • @FuzzyFoot58
      @FuzzyFoot58 10 дней назад +1

      I always thought that Angela Basset would have been great as Storm.

  • @ppinmouth2649
    @ppinmouth2649 3 месяца назад +525

    "But" at the end was nice😂

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +51

      Thank you! It makes a nice loop at the end. Need to find more butts for my shorts 😅

    • @GorillaWhale
      @GorillaWhale 3 месяца назад +31

      @@chrisjhermanbutts and shorts are always a winning combination 😅

    • @roadwarrior52
      @roadwarrior52 3 месяца назад +8

      I came to the comments for this comment

    • @brickfilm2103
      @brickfilm2103 3 месяца назад +1

      Lol

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 3 месяца назад +3

      I completely missed the visual reference for that line, until reading this. 🤦🏿

  • @tuckerbowen4626
    @tuckerbowen4626 3 месяца назад +536

    Wait, so Rogue AND Dazzler were both modeled after Grace Jones?

    • @PaladinodoCerradooficial
      @PaladinodoCerradooficial 3 месяца назад +31

      Yeah! That why both can be blackwoman in movies for me.

    • @BigDapPacino
      @BigDapPacino 3 месяца назад +9

      Dazzler was probably based on Olivia Newton John or one of the female singers from ABBA in my opinion!

    • @Forcopuon
      @Forcopuon 3 месяца назад +12

      @@BigDapPacinoshe was also based off of grace too but her official appearance look probably was based off of them

    • @nadrolobtheorcwench6342
      @nadrolobtheorcwench6342 3 месяца назад +14

      The character ' Huntara" from the original/ authentic/ real , She-Ra princess of Power syndicate was also based on Grace Jones

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@PaladinodoCerradooficial Congratulations on an incredibly stupid comment/sentiment.

  • @leol2926
    @leol2926 3 месяца назад +107

    Grace Jones was like 60% of all X-Men. Makes sense

    • @aboogie797
      @aboogie797 3 месяца назад +2

      😂

    • @B_addie
      @B_addie 3 месяца назад +3

      It’s such an odd dynamic!!! Like the creators said she was the inspiration, the comics gradually made the characters look less like their original designs, and then the fans took it further by making them look even less like the original designs but then get mad at black cosplayers for actually looking like Grace Jones…

    • @leol2926
      @leol2926 3 месяца назад +7

      @@B_addie I think that is just people being rude to black people for any reason they can think of.

    • @The_Bigot
      @The_Bigot 2 месяца назад +2

      @@B_addiedid Stan lee or jack Kirby say that? Because I’m pretty sure they never did and this is all shit that other people are saying that they said.

    • @clickpause8732
      @clickpause8732 2 месяца назад +4

      @@The_Bigotusername feels… oddly appropriate here, I just can’t pin down why

  • @elizel90
    @elizel90 3 месяца назад +112

    If only they made Rouge look this strong and badass in the films

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +21

      I hope they make her like this when she makes her debut in the MCU

    • @Nula7
      @Nula7 3 месяца назад +3

      @@chrisjherman i wonder when this day will come!!!

    • @detectivebrown6211
      @detectivebrown6211 2 месяца назад +1

      I mean I wouldn't call that outdated look and funny hair "stong" and "badass." She looks way better now

    • @meccamitchell6481
      @meccamitchell6481 2 месяца назад

      I know right

    • @Swerv0.
      @Swerv0. 2 месяца назад +5

      @@detectivebrown6211sorry but no. Animated rouge is peak rouge. We got enough female heroes with movie rouge mannerisms.

  • @JOVONO
    @JOVONO 3 месяца назад +292

    Another X-Men that has a odd history with race is Bishop the creator of the character wanted to have him be Filipino because he was however Marvel came to him saying they wanted a new African American character so he made Bishop African American however later it’s implied Bishop is actually Australian Aboriginal with the character Gateway being his great-grandfather however then it’s also been implied that Storm might be his grandmother
    So he potentially part African part Aboriginal but was originally intended to be Filipino-American

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +35

      Wow! Thanks for the information on Bishop. I never knew that. That would be great for a future short!

    • @Elektrikkiss
      @Elektrikkiss 3 месяца назад +25

      Just because his great grandfather is aboriginal doesn't mean he can't be African American lol

    • @genevieve7676
      @genevieve7676 3 месяца назад +31

      ​@@ElektrikkissI personally headcanon Bishop as being both African and Aboriginal descent and that Shard, his sister, is blond because some Aboriginal people have blond hair.

    • @massivemedia4138
      @massivemedia4138 3 месяца назад +13

      I actually meet Whilce Portacio as a teen and he never mentioned that Bishop was supposed to be as he is a Filipino American. However he did mention that Bishop was his favorite character that he ever created. He also explained that he thought about Gateway being his family to help explain the time travel but he ultimately said Bishop was supposed to be Onslaught as at the time he was the newest Xman his power allowed him to absorb energy and the energy signature that took out Jean grey in the message was Bishops energy signature.. However same as Cable Bishop just became a popular character so they kept him a good guy.

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@genevieve7676 he's basically First Nation Aboriginal

  • @minicle426
    @minicle426 3 месяца назад +143

    Fun fact. Rogue's turn towards becoming a hero in the comics was a result of trying to absorb (licensed character) Rom the Spaceknight's powers, gaining some of his personality traits in the process.

    • @bri55118
      @bri55118 3 месяца назад +10

      Rom issue 32. That was a very freaky story.

    • @stevenstygles
      @stevenstygles 3 месяца назад +3

      Rom was the best toy inspired comic book. Would love a movie about the space knight

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 месяца назад +8

      I thought that was ms. marvel's influence on her.

    • @earlr2992
      @earlr2992 3 месяца назад +7

      They failed to mention that Rogue's flight and super strength come form the fact that Rogue absorbed Captain Marvel's powers and put her in a coma. Now Captain Marvel's consciousness is in Rogues mind while Captain Marvel is in the hospital in a coma.

    • @Loralanthalas
      @Loralanthalas 3 месяца назад

      I dint remember Rouge being honorable.

  • @Random_1384x
    @Random_1384x 3 месяца назад +112

    Let's all be honest...we had a crush on rogue when we were young😅

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +7

      Absolutely! 😆

    • @elementalsigil
      @elementalsigil 3 месяца назад +1

      She was my teenage heart throb

    • @jaydubb2092
      @jaydubb2092 3 месяца назад +6

      Hey! Dont speak for me!😂 Storm was my main (shyt, still is!)....Rogue was my side

    • @sneakernickel
      @sneakernickel 3 месяца назад

      She had the curves. Her belt hung off of her. She had a sexy raspy voice, and she was horny AF flirting with even bad guys. Made my tummy feel funny when I was littlee

    • @tonyt1680
      @tonyt1680 3 месяца назад +4

      Storm for me!

  • @anibalsanchez1726
    @anibalsanchez1726 3 месяца назад +47

    That was her signature air roll kick in X- MEN VS. STREET FIGHTER.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +8

      That's right! So glad they included it in the series

    • @PaladinodoCerradooficial
      @PaladinodoCerradooficial 3 месяца назад +5

      Its a Rider Kick from Kamen Rider series.

    • @galactichand551
      @galactichand551 3 месяца назад +2

      Her air-roll kick is included in both the original animated series and this iteration, too.

    • @CHRISFREE84
      @CHRISFREE84 3 месяца назад

      Wh​at show @@chrisjherman

  • @NinjaAimless
    @NinjaAimless 3 месяца назад +83

    Yo I wanna salute whoever was responsible for giving Rogue that Rider Kick 😂. GOD it was Magnificent😌

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +13

      That was such an awesome moment. I had to include it in the short 😃

    • @NinjaAimless
      @NinjaAimless 3 месяца назад +5

      @@chrisjherman Definitely man!!! That’s was some good stuff.

    • @coolraul07
      @coolraul07 3 месяца назад +4

      DYNAMIC.. ENTRY-YYYYYYYYY!

    • @apollolux
      @apollolux 3 месяца назад +8

      Capcom was responsible. Their Marvel fighting games in the '90s were legendary.

    • @NinjaAimless
      @NinjaAimless 3 месяца назад

      @@coolraul07 I’m so upset I didn’t think about that lol 😂

  • @jorgehernandez4098
    @jorgehernandez4098 3 месяца назад +49

    Her original design had Grace Jones haircut too.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +9

      I should have included that in the short. Thanks for letting me know!

    • @detectivebrown6211
      @detectivebrown6211 2 месяца назад +1

      "Too"
      No. The actors style was used as a reference. Not the actor herself. The hair and manish look was THE inspiration taken

    • @keromora
      @keromora 2 месяца назад +5

      @@detectivebrown6211they had the same haircut hence she had her haircut. When someone says you have your mothers eyes, they usually don’t mean you physically wrenched them from her body.

  • @JoshuaJWhiteMusic
    @JoshuaJWhiteMusic 3 месяца назад +26

    ✊🏾😫I love how these comment sections -i learn so much from the true fans & nerds -XMEN FOR LIFE BABY!

    • @austinkruger290
      @austinkruger290 2 месяца назад

      In 1977 Jones secured her first record deal resulting in a string of dance-club hits including "I Need A Man"

    • @austinkruger290
      @austinkruger290 2 месяца назад

      10 years after creation... This is just glazing to try and get more watchers

  • @themarlboromandalorian
    @themarlboromandalorian 3 месяца назад +21

    Fun fact.
    The original rogue from the comics actually has a magnificently proportioned posterior.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +4

      I gotta do a short just on comic book butts 😅

    • @themarlboromandalorian
      @themarlboromandalorian 3 месяца назад +2

      @@chrisjherman I'd watch it.
      #gotdatwagon

    • @maximilianobartomucci6044
      @maximilianobartomucci6044 3 месяца назад

      In her very first appearance in Avengers Annual 10, she looked like an emaciated 50 year old woman, she got some major improvements through the years.

  • @jennevailoces5367
    @jennevailoces5367 3 месяца назад +101

    grAce jones shoulda beeen STORM!

    • @cryospiral
      @cryospiral 3 месяца назад +36

      Absolutely! A young Grace Jones would have been the perfect storm, pun intended.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +16

      That would have been cool!

    • @nullvoid8941
      @nullvoid8941 3 месяца назад +4

      Kiki palmer will rectify this

    • @dominiquedevereux7205
      @dominiquedevereux7205 3 месяца назад

      ​@@nullvoid8941Actually, last year, people were coming for KeKe on social media cuz she put up pictures of her face over Rogue's body saying she'd love to play her & people *AHEM --- WHITE PEOPLE * accused her of trying to "woke" Rogue up. If they could only see this. I'm sure all you'd hear is 🦗🦗🦗🦗

    • @BCDC123
      @BCDC123 3 месяца назад +40

      Eh, Angela Bassett would have been peak casting.

  • @sergioramirez8781
    @sergioramirez8781 3 месяца назад +53

    Like he says but then show Rouge's butt 😂

    • @meheecan123
      @meheecan123 3 месяца назад +4

      😎

    • @The_Notorious_N.O.E.
      @The_Notorious_N.O.E. 3 месяца назад +11

      🍑 She is a Southern peach after all 😉👍

    • @LeChevalierduLys
      @LeChevalierduLys 3 месяца назад +2

      ROGUE !!!!!!

    • @JoshuaJWhiteMusic
      @JoshuaJWhiteMusic 3 месяца назад +3

      🖐🏾😂I peeped that!

    • @ReparationsNation
      @ReparationsNation 3 месяца назад

      @@The_Notorious_N.O.E., southern ain’t got shit to do w it. White woman can have a nice, fat ass but, it’s NO THING compared to that of a Black woman.

  • @fabooshka
    @fabooshka 3 месяца назад +26

    I do like the idea of rogue being a southern black girl raised in a strict no-nonsense family, it just fits. Explains her not fitting in because she wants to explore different desires that are taboo in her culture... But I like her current version just fine

  • @Umgumby
    @Umgumby 3 месяца назад +16

    Lmao “Butt”

    • @eyooffiong
      @eyooffiong 7 дней назад

      I am still looking at the paused video on the butt part. Damn em cakes man. Wow. 😂

  • @grandinquizitor7412
    @grandinquizitor7412 3 месяца назад +33

    The artists need to give Rogue her voluptuous curves back. She was originally supposed to be irresistibly beautiful and sadly untouchable.

    • @lordterra1377
      @lordterra1377 3 месяца назад +2

      Thank Wokeness and Sweetbaby for that.

  • @RICHbeGROUNDED
    @RICHbeGROUNDED 3 месяца назад +6

    It's amazing how inspiring and monumental black people have been to sooo many things

  • @edward0383
    @edward0383 3 месяца назад +13

    That "BUT..." was timed 👌 in 😂😂😂😂

    • @juggernaut83
      @juggernaut83 3 месяца назад

      Timed to perfection whilst showing that Iconic bubble bu** 👏🏾👏🏾😂

    • @eyooffiong
      @eyooffiong 7 дней назад

      So you're man of culture yourself. I see you. 😂

  • @dominiquedevereux7205
    @dominiquedevereux7205 3 месяца назад +46

    And 2 think just last year on Twitter, a certain "group 🙎🏼🙎🏻‍♀️* of people were GOING IN on actress Keke Palmer, accusing her of trying to make Rogue "woke" & ✌🏾stealing✌🏾1 of their beloved icons when she superimposed her face over Rogue's saying she'd love to play her in a movie. The IRONY 😑.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +9

      I'm not a big Keke Palmer fan, but I'm curious who they'll cast for the MCU X-Men

    • @dominiquedevereux7205
      @dominiquedevereux7205 3 месяца назад +17

      @chrisjherman Yeah. I'm not a fan either, but it just tickled me how many "people" of a certain demographic got mad at her even expressing interest in the role as a black woman, not knowing the intended history of the character's creation.

    • @JohnSmith-xg9wx
      @JohnSmith-xg9wx 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@chrisjherman I don't doubt for one second that Keke could bring Rogue's signature sass to life and she looked great in the photoshopped pics as Rogue.

    • @phonicrose8395
      @phonicrose8395 3 месяца назад +6

      Just because her design in concept was inspired by a black woman. Doesn't mean the character should be played by a black woman.
      Rogue is a white woman, changing her race is racist and woke.
      Or are you saying any Black Fairy character is not allowed to exist?

    • @coreydorsey4121
      @coreydorsey4121 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@phonicrose8395 Unless along with being played by a black character they also make the focus about black issues, thete is no "woke" really involved. Please learn how to have more nuanced ways of seeing things.
      Also, to this day I hate how "woke" was hijacked a few years ago. Woke didn't mean being super liberal, feminist, LGBT, or race focused. It really meant people who could see the bigger picture about the world around us or the info most of the masses readily accept. It meant they questioned things, used critical thinking, read between the lines, etc... It had absolutely nothing to do with liberals vs conservatives. In fact, most who would've been considered "woke" in the original context would be those who understand the 2-party system in itself has been detrimental to the public and made the political process much easier to manipulate. And the fact that BOTH parties will protect the wealthy over the 98% when it comes down to it, one party is just more upfront about it.

  • @ItsJustBigME.
    @ItsJustBigME. 2 месяца назад +2

    Omg that soundtrack brings back childhood memories ❤

  • @thiskid990
    @thiskid990 2 месяца назад +3

    Grace Jones is so iconic as a model. Shes probably the inspiration for a lot of different characters. She totally epitomizes that 80s/90s badass look for me

  • @bornvet9952
    @bornvet9952 3 месяца назад +21

    Best thing about rogue was when she absorbed captain marvel

    • @austinkruger290
      @austinkruger290 2 месяца назад

      When captain marvel was still a guy?

  • @adrian_5174
    @adrian_5174 3 месяца назад +7

    Well played ending..."but" 😂

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! I need to find more X-Men butts for these endings 😆

  • @iannis5416
    @iannis5416 2 месяца назад +1

    Thankfully Storm delivered on every aspect of being the embodiment of Grace Jones!!!!

  • @larrygraham4875
    @larrygraham4875 3 месяца назад +5

    In 92 i was 12. Dat assss on Rogue. The show was so good ❤❤

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +1

      It's a great show! Check out X-Men 97 when you have the time

    • @waynegruber9122
      @waynegruber9122 3 месяца назад

      Gosh the Xmen 92 cartoon on fox kids i was 10 in 92. The Phoenix Saga was my favorite storyline. I cant watch it nowhere unless i get the Disney plus app.

  • @bruceleeroy8302
    @bruceleeroy8302 3 месяца назад +28

    I love Rogue and her design in the X-Men cartoon. If she was played by a character that looks like Grace Jones, people would be outraged and call it "woke." Go figure.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +3

      I love her design too!

    • @zeken0
      @zeken0 3 месяца назад +4

      Would you have loved her if it was a Grace jones design 🤔... people pick and choose what they want to hate.

    • @firefly44220
      @firefly44220 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes

    • @phonicrose8395
      @phonicrose8395 3 месяца назад +6

      Just because Grace inspired her design. Doesn't mean Rouge is a Black character.
      She was made white. Which makes it woke to change her to be black.
      Thats like saying a Black person can't be into Fairycore. Smh

    • @gingerdog8203
      @gingerdog8203 3 месяца назад +1

      @@phonicrose8395that last sentence makes no sense with the rest of your comment but i digress, white people have more than 80% of characters in media, they can spare a few iterations to be people of color

  • @mrdreloaded4049
    @mrdreloaded4049 3 месяца назад +5

    Dang, good history lesson on Rogue, BUTT....

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад

      Thank you so much! She has a pretty rich history

  • @tonikadesouza5428
    @tonikadesouza5428 3 месяца назад +1

    Interesting that you say that, I'm 49 and had original X-Men comics in my teens. Ironically Storm's original look was more like Grace Jones. The whole feel was more dark and grunge, loved it💥!

  • @skarhead7597
    @skarhead7597 3 месяца назад +1

    Good thing we got the Rogue we got eventually. She's perfect as is.

  • @triggerfish9967
    @triggerfish9967 3 месяца назад +9

    So Rogue was suppose to be black!?

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +4

      Yup!

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade 3 месяца назад +2

      No.

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@chrisjherman uhh, no. That's not even what you said in the video.
      Elements of Rogue were inspired from several sources, this actress/model being one.

    • @tonyt1680
      @tonyt1680 3 месяца назад

      ​@@OpinionParade Uhhh, yesss? One of the designers just didn't know who Grace Jones was, so she ended up white. Stop being such a crybaby, you still have your white Rogue

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade Месяц назад

      @@triggerfish9967 *UPDATE*
      The guy who runs this channel is a snake. He deleted his response because he was caught lying and essentially race-baiting people for clicks.
      What a jackass.

  • @willcopeland275
    @willcopeland275 3 месяца назад +9

    He didn’t know who she was, but yet didn’t take the time to find out who she was

    • @charminglady2011
      @charminglady2011 3 месяца назад +4

      Back then, it wasn't easy to just look it up. Internet wasn't around. And Jones is a model and actress.

    • @willcopeland275
      @willcopeland275 3 месяца назад

      @@charminglady2011 yes you are correct the phony express that delivered the information and picture of her from the person who sent it to him, but it took too long for him to send a reply back to him right because there was nobody else he could’ve asked out who she was back then the wire tapping was just not fast enough either

  • @Shivs628
    @Shivs628 Месяц назад +1

    Chris!!! I’ve missed you on DT glad to see you have your own page… I look forward to watching your content 🎉

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  Месяц назад +1

      Welcome! Glad you found my channel. Hope you enjoy the shorts and videos. I typically upload new stuff every day. Feel free to leave feedback too!

  • @princemuhammadhassan1507
    @princemuhammadhassan1507 2 месяца назад +1

    I got into so many arguments with people after the who Kiki palmer playing rogue thing. I told them that rogue was inspired from a black woman and all they did was deny deny deny... Im so glad this guy made this.

  • @YesThisIsChrissss44
    @YesThisIsChrissss44 3 месяца назад +5

    She definitely is one of my favorites

  • @zahidulislamimran5664
    @zahidulislamimran5664 3 месяца назад +3

    she was by far the sexiest X-man character ever drawn, when I was like 5, she was my first crush

    • @theoc511
      @theoc511 3 месяца назад

      EXACTLY SAME

    • @jdspetersgaming
      @jdspetersgaming 3 месяца назад

      storm though. ororo monroe best girl.

  • @K1NG931
    @K1NG931 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm glad Rogue doesn't look like Grace Jones

  • @CharlieThunder24
    @CharlieThunder24 2 месяца назад +1

    The actual 90s depiction is rhe main reason why she's a fan favorite.
    The accent. The spirit. The figure. Mmmm

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  2 месяца назад

      Oh, her 90s animated adaptation is great!

  • @rigolettohooper7319
    @rigolettohooper7319 3 месяца назад +5

    Her drip is crazy❤❤❤

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +2

      She really stood out because of her features

    • @rigolettohooper7319
      @rigolettohooper7319 3 месяца назад +1

      @@chrisjherman they really took their time with her.

    • @jdspetersgaming
      @jdspetersgaming 3 месяца назад +1

      @@rigolettohooper7319 Cakes do take time in the oven...

  • @israelcortes6714
    @israelcortes6714 3 месяца назад +7

    I rather it be centered around her than Jean

    • @ligeiasiren4290
      @ligeiasiren4290 3 месяца назад

      A man of mid, I see.

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ligeiasiren4290 I think we're all burned out from everything being about either Wolverine or Jeanus Christ.

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 3 месяца назад +2

      I think people are mistaking having the spotlight for being centered around.

  • @iamthebatsy
    @iamthebatsy 5 дней назад

    This makes Rogue even more badass…

  • @MalBeats
    @MalBeats 2 месяца назад +1

    Artist: "You said her name is Grace right? Say no more fam."

  • @johnnybarrett9017
    @johnnybarrett9017 3 месяца назад +8

    Gave us great facts and STILL managed to sneak in the iconic "GYATT" of Rogue in the end. You're a true man of culture

  • @ryansummer546
    @ryansummer546 3 месяца назад +3

    That Shade at the end 😂❤

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад

      Not shade at all! Just thicc cheeks 😂

  • @erreidwas
    @erreidwas 17 дней назад +1

    Rogue is one of my favorite superheroes.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  17 дней назад

      She's one of my favorites as well

  • @cloverkingdom6341
    @cloverkingdom6341 13 дней назад +1

    GODAYUUM rogue got the whole BAKING INDUSTRY 😂😂😂

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  13 дней назад +1

      She's working with some big buns 😂

  • @TheAngryAtheist
    @TheAngryAtheist 3 месяца назад +9

    The popular design of rogue, as shown in the animated series, was created by Jim Lee. Respect on the name please.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +4

      You're a very angry person, aren't you?

    • @TheAngryAtheist
      @TheAngryAtheist 3 месяца назад +6

      @@chrisjherman not really. Im just saying.

    • @genevieve7676
      @genevieve7676 3 месяца назад +2

      Jim Lee didn't create the character though. He just created her most popular look back in the nineties. Rogue had other designs back in the eighties before Lee.

    • @TheAngryAtheist
      @TheAngryAtheist 3 месяца назад +4

      @@genevieve7676 i mentioned the design

    • @genevieve7676
      @genevieve7676 3 месяца назад +1

      @@romy_edits I think her Outback era look is actually sexier than the Jim Lee look (which looks like a corn husk to me) and I love her Age of Apocalypse hairstyle. One of the things that the nineties cartoon did right was make her jacket green instead of fugly poop brown.

  • @lillydee5978
    @lillydee5978 3 месяца назад +12

    Claremont must be getting senile. He often said he wanted STORM to resemble GJ during the 80's. He never said Rogue should until suddenly out of nowhere in 2016.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +4

      Or he just wanted to really use Grace Jones as a template for a character

    • @Elektrikkiss
      @Elektrikkiss 3 месяца назад +7

      Get over yourself it's been confirmed

    • @genevieve7676
      @genevieve7676 3 месяца назад +5

      To be fair, early Rogue in the 80s dressed and styled herself closer to Jones than she did in the 90s.

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Elektrikkiss"get over yourself"
      Wtf? Do you have worms in your brain or something?

  • @tdogg65
    @tdogg65 3 месяца назад +2

    Rogue was fine as hell

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +1

      Oh, she's a great chracter!

  • @edgeyberzerker
    @edgeyberzerker 3 месяца назад +10

    BUT!

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад

      Gotta have a thicc butt for the ending 😆

  • @a.d.phillips4948
    @a.d.phillips4948 3 месяца назад +6

    I remember reading about this some time ago. I’m glad that they didn’t go with Chris’s initial vision. I enjoy her as is, in the comics, TAS and 97.

  • @ShadowProject01
    @ShadowProject01 2 месяца назад +1

    God I love that Grace Jones pic you chose. She’s such an icon❤

  • @Ria-sd2ex
    @Ria-sd2ex 3 месяца назад

    I do absolutely LOVE Rogue, but having a character truly influenced after Jones look would have been amazing.

  • @txmoney
    @txmoney 3 месяца назад +13

    Even Golden’s original design for Rogue drastically changed. She went from short-haired and unattractive to the current Rogue we all know.

  • @elvinsolano6177
    @elvinsolano6177 3 месяца назад +12

    I assume the white streak in hair was due to having vitiligo

    • @carlalussini
      @carlalussini 3 месяца назад

      WAAAAAAITTTTTTTTT

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 3 месяца назад +1

      Actually it was because she was meant to be middle-aged. Then in other comics that went into her backstory as a child, it showed that she was just inexplicably born with it.

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 3 месяца назад

      @@romy_edits which finally became canon recently, right? I'm embarrassingly behind in X-Men comics

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 3 месяца назад

      @@romy_edits Comic books lol

    • @KingGrizzBadara
      @KingGrizzBadara 3 месяца назад

      I don't think anyone got the joke, lol.

  • @zoeyjafferally3475
    @zoeyjafferally3475 3 месяца назад

    Rogue is and will always be my favourite X-Men, mutant and superhero period.

  • @PriestForever
    @PriestForever 2 месяца назад +1

    Grace Jones was that woman. I'm actually impressed that Chris Claremont knew who she was!

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  2 месяца назад +1

      He was a big fan of her and looked at her as a source of inspiration.

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 3 месяца назад +13

    Superman is an alien but a human at heart.not in that way! Stan Lee ran out of ideas on how to give people powers. The civil rights stuff came from Chris Claremont not Stan Lee. John Byrne was one of the best comic book writers for the X-men. He knew how to bring a serious edge to them. All this SJW crap came from bad activist writers.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +11

      What short did you watch?

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 3 месяца назад +2

      @@chrisjherman I say that because humans raised him.

    • @Mr._Anonymous342
      @Mr._Anonymous342 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@biguy617okay big guy, have a nice day ❤

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Mr._Anonymous342 It is Big Guy. I did a misspell when typing the name

    • @bryce253
      @bryce253 3 месяца назад +2

      Not sure why this is here but Nah... Superman is an alien that is an alien. That's part of the reason I've never liked his butt. He's an alien that has never known human challenges and frailties but has the nerve to try and judge humans on how they should be better humans.
      Miss me with that.

  • @sergiogarcia7171
    @sergiogarcia7171 3 месяца назад +10

    Keke Palmer needs to be Rogue in the MCU!

    • @lorenzoreynolds2512
      @lorenzoreynolds2512 3 месяца назад +8

      No

    • @KingOfThaDead64
      @KingOfThaDead64 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes yes and yes

    • @zeken0
      @zeken0 3 месяца назад

      ​@lorenzoreynolds2512 why no explain

    • @lorenzoreynolds2512
      @lorenzoreynolds2512 3 месяца назад

      @@zeken0 because rogue is white southerner not black no hate 4 Keke but get her to play a black character don't blackwash rogue that would be retared there's a lot of white actors out there that look like n sounds like rogue n I'm a black man saying this

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade 3 месяца назад +2

      Gross. No.
      Rogue isn't black and was never intended to be black.
      You seem to have misunderstood what you saw in the video.

  • @SquirrelGamez
    @SquirrelGamez Месяц назад

    All the kids loved Wolverine but Rogue was always my favorite. Such a complex character!

  • @Yoshwayy
    @Yoshwayy 3 месяца назад +5

    Concept and what she became are
    Totally different things. People need to stop using this as a reason to want KeKe Palmer as rogue 😂

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад

      I'm very curious who they'll inevitably cast

    • @lilkenx8039
      @lilkenx8039 3 месяца назад +1

      Right!? X-men in itself is inclusive enough, there's no need to raceswap any character. Maybe Hank McCoy cuz he's blue anyway😂

    • @dominiquedevereux7205
      @dominiquedevereux7205 3 месяца назад +4

      Nobody's saying Rogue's race should be changed. It is what it is now & I love her as she is. The POINT IS the fact so many wyte people get their panties in a bunch when a fictional wyte character is made non-white, when most REAL LIFE HISTORICAL FIGURES that were black were white-washed. So it's a case of, why is it fine for you & not for us. There are MORE than enough wyte characters to represent white culture, but when we get 1 extra, some wyte people have hissy fits, AS IF it's going to take away from their representation. And any1 who denies that fact is just being intellectually dishonest cuz they don't want things any other way than what jibes with THEIR worldview

    • @Pinksugarcandy
      @Pinksugarcandy 3 месяца назад +3

      ⁠@@dominiquedevereux7205said all of this for no one to care. The race of characters should stay as is on every side. okaying it for y’all to race swipe and not okaying it for white people to race swap is just as ignorant as them doing it, period.

    • @Yoshwayy
      @Yoshwayy 3 месяца назад +1

      @@chrisjherman unsure! Pulling for Elizabeth Gillis or Alexandra Daddario

  • @devilslayerthesaintofkille1317
    @devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice pun at the end.

  • @user-os9zo5px2g
    @user-os9zo5px2g 3 месяца назад +1

    She was always my favorite x- men.❤

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад +1

      She's one of my favorites as well!

    • @user-os9zo5px2g
      @user-os9zo5px2g 3 месяца назад

      @chrisjherman I should have said. She still my favorite today no matter what.

  • @maximedastous3359
    @maximedastous3359 3 месяца назад +2

    all the character of rogue is perfect the white streaks hair and her southern accent was on point

  • @KenMasters.
    @KenMasters. 2 месяца назад

    Marvel missed a huge opportunity several decades ago to make a retro live-action X-Men series starring Paul D'Amato as Wolverine, Grace Jones as Storm, Arnold Schwarzenegger as Colossus, etc.

  • @UnCreativeDeconstructionism
    @UnCreativeDeconstructionism 3 месяца назад +1

    Zeitgeist was my favorite xmen villain

  • @Shadowrose54321
    @Shadowrose54321 Месяц назад

    Guy in the studios like: Close enough.

  • @lolone9663
    @lolone9663 2 месяца назад +1

    Grace Jones would’ve killed it, but for that time- it’s not surprising what they decided to run with…

  • @dbzguy7ify
    @dbzguy7ify 2 месяца назад

    Rogue was always my favorite character

  • @TheDbduece
    @TheDbduece 3 месяца назад +1

    Did not know Michael Golden was a part of Rogue. I loved his Micronauts...

  • @MeDusa_Ri_86
    @MeDusa_Ri_86 3 месяца назад +1

    Rouge has always been my favorite. Her and GAMBIT❤

    • @mAjeStic.716
      @mAjeStic.716 3 месяца назад

      Yo me too😂😂 rogue and gambit were everything to me ❤

  • @iknowallthesadsongs2115
    @iknowallthesadsongs2115 3 месяца назад +2

    The worst loss and tragedy that rouge has his her ass

  • @luismiranda6163
    @luismiranda6163 3 месяца назад

    Rogue looking like Grace Jones wouldn't bug me at all. Already my favorite x men character as is. Can't say she turned out bad as it is.

  • @wyldelf2685
    @wyldelf2685 3 месяца назад +1

    🤣😆 "BUTT"😮😂 Chris Clairemount Rocks 🏆👍👍

  • @l.austin2371
    @l.austin2371 3 месяца назад +1

    Grace Jones and Angela Bassett would of been fire as Storm.

  • @nadjahmiller3977
    @nadjahmiller3977 2 месяца назад +2

    And Storm of X men 97 with whith the white Mohawk was modelled after Grace Jobes

  • @Zulu-Lemon
    @Zulu-Lemon 3 месяца назад +1

    Ironically old school storm looks like Grace Jones.

  • @kjk7611
    @kjk7611 3 месяца назад +1

    I think Storm was supposed to look like Grace Jones, too. But they went with the Emon look, instead.

    • @jasonbaker2198
      @jasonbaker2198 3 месяца назад

      Think or Know?

    • @kjk7611
      @kjk7611 3 месяца назад

      @@jasonbaker2198 I Think but I'm pretty Sure.

  • @perfectlyimperfect492
    @perfectlyimperfect492 2 месяца назад +1

    Grace played a super villain but was the best thing in VIEW to a KILL. In CONAN the DESTROYER, she was a scene stealing heroine and too believable in all her roles. She was WILD before wild with her beautifully dark chocolate self. Her shortest funniest role was in Boomerang tho! . .👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 STRANGE'.. gone gurl ! Great singer too. Original groundbreaker, 360°of talent!

  • @rjmack8759
    @rjmack8759 3 месяца назад +1

    They knew who hell Grace Jones was, they to stop the CAP...

  • @superman1081
    @superman1081 3 месяца назад +1

    Originally, she had a short Mullet, which made her look like a stud.

  • @godconvoy
    @godconvoy 3 месяца назад

    Nice placement of the word "but". Well played.

  • @Tenshii_Artii
    @Tenshii_Artii 3 месяца назад

    I won't even lie. As someone who wasn't even born in the 80s, I managed to catch a glimpse of that exact Conan scene on TV. I remember thinking "Oh man. badass incoming!"
    Had to search up the actress, and I still think she's iconic. It's no surprise that many fictional other characters in history wanted to take inspiration from her!
    Did the Grace Jones in inspiration make it to other Marvel Characters?

  • @shannonraby5547
    @shannonraby5547 3 месяца назад

    Looove Grace Jones. She is beauty, she is style, she Grace and she is Iconic.

  • @joesheppard5960
    @joesheppard5960 14 дней назад +1

    Even james bond wanted that woman

  • @user-ye5ku2ws6s
    @user-ye5ku2ws6s 3 месяца назад +2

    Did you know that the original Harley Quinn was created from the imagination of actress Arleen Sorkin ( Calliope Jones)? Who first appeared in the soap opera DAYS OF OUR LIVES. She dressed.herself up as a sexy clown , & did a comedic improv calling herself Harley Quinn.

    • @chrisjherman
      @chrisjherman  3 месяца назад

      Yup, I did indeed! She made such an impact on the Batman mythos.

  • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
    @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 месяца назад

    I mean Grace Jones is an icon.
    I found out she’s still involved in the fashion world and that’s mind blowing to me.

  • @christopherwilliams242
    @christopherwilliams242 3 месяца назад

    Every where I look I see Jamaicans. We have so much unacknowledged influence on history.

  • @kistro452
    @kistro452 3 месяца назад

    😂 LORDY, DONE EVEN TURNED GRACE JONES WYT😂

  • @russellmitchell1579
    @russellmitchell1579 3 месяца назад

    Rouge was Caked Up back in the day.
    Fun Fact🎉:
    Besides Grace Jones was a model way before the movies.

  • @brighonte
    @brighonte 2 месяца назад

    That view with apocalypse tho👀👀

  • @diyproject2656
    @diyproject2656 3 месяца назад

    Grace Jones was and still is a beauty today! She's definitely iconic and i always pictured her playing Storm in the movies

  • @shannonallaround9490
    @shannonallaround9490 3 месяца назад +1

    X-Men 97 is the BEST

  • @blackknowledgewisdomempowement
    @blackknowledgewisdomempowement 3 месяца назад +1

    Bet you didn’t know this one: Back in the 80’s at a comic book convention at the then Sheraton Hotel NYC, there was back THEN talks about making a LIVE X-Man movie. They wanted Grace Jones to be the Windrider. They also on the panel talked about who they were who the characters were inspired by.