Xavier: Magnus, please! Be reasonable! Magneto: Charles, they vaporized a child who was clinging to me for dear life. Why the fuck would I be reasonable with these people?
In b4 the “That wasn’t humanity that was Bastion. Humanity is innocent” people find this cause like bruh you are true but you forgot that after Genosha the governments of the world refused to let the mutants return to their nation of origin essentially forcing them to lie in poverty and squalor. How can you reason with heartless evil like that
@@Crystal_Dylan Exactly! Like, I completely disagree with Magneto's methods, and his reasoning that all of humanity should pay the price, but holy fuck do I understand where he's coming from. He's literally a two-time genocide survivor at this point, and twice, the world governments failed him. I'd be done with the planet too if I had the ability to build an asteroid and leave.
@@Crystal_Dylannot to mention Dr. Cooper working alongside bastion....Charles forced magneto to turn power back on the humans attacked with missiles..... like what the fuck
@@Crystal_DylanMembers of the united nations. Hydra. Doom. Other supervillains were all helping Bastain. Bastain was created by superior model sentinels who owe their existence to a bigoted human scientist and fearful humans who sponsored later models of his project. Let's not forget the FoH and their X-ecutioner were allowed by Val Cooper to crash Magneto's trial so they could remove his powers. The whole trial was nothing but a setup. Don't forget thousands of humans volunteered to be involved in the prime sentinel program. Sure they did not know they going to personally be altered into mutant hunting zombies but they were more than willing be part of an anti-mutant group. Even President Kelly, a champion of mutant rights refused to help search for possible survivors of the Genosha massacre because he thought it would hurt his image. Add to that having to watch his family murdered for the sin of being Jewish. Having to deal with horrors of the camps and the Warsaw ghetto. Having to watch his daughter burned alive by superstitious humans. Watching his lover Isabelle have her throat cut by a member of the CIA whom Magneto was working with. Granted Magneto's ruthless methods are wrong. But after all he went through I understand why he just said...."Enough".
@@Crystal_Dylan Not only that, the UN was *fully* complicit in Bastion's activities. They knew almost every detail, and they willingly funded all of it. They have an entire council dedicated to "placating" mutants until they can find a way to completely excise them from this mortal coil.
0:21 - 1:29 "I'm truly sorry for Genosha, my friend. But I can't let you do this." "You're always sorry, Charles, and there's always a speech, but no one cares anymore."
@varric There's McKellen, too. "How does it look from there, Charles? Still fighting the good fight? From here, it looks like they're not playing by your rules... *Maybe it's time to play by theirs!* " 😆See?
@@SuperWolsey He was hurt and left for recooperation. Another of Magneto's lies. But far above that in the wrong is Magneto's blasphemous lying. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, all humans may commit sexual immorality (gay, straight) and sin, and that's wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@SuperWolseyHe left because he was dying and Shi'ar was the only place where his injuries could get treated. Not to mention, he couldn't come back for a picnic because 1) Shi'ar were not allowing it and 2) His supposed death positively affected the mutant-human relations. The blame goes towards Bastion, Sinister, and Trask to some degree.
the irony though MAGNETO HELPED XAVIER GO TO SAID BIRD QUEEN lol at the end of the original series Magneto went to Xavier and saw his ass dying and actually helped to get a psychic message to her so she could pick him up and take him to be healed what abandonment was there when he helped send Xavier away lol
The saddest part is, neither side is 100% right or wrong. Xavier wants peace and harmony, which is an understandable goal, but he only sees the positives of his goal rather than take the negatives into account, causing him to make decisions such as leaving Magneto and the X-Men to pick up where he left off while he and Lilandra become a couple, even though the X-Men aren't ready to go it alone yet. Meanwhile Magneto, while understandably upset at Bastion, Sinister, and humanity as a whole for Genosha, fails to realize his plans are doing more harm than good for the mutants he claims to help. Wanting to create a new home for mutants isn't wrong, but changing Earth's axis, like Xavier said, will kill many mutants as well as regular humans. In the end both sides fall into 2 different extremes, Magneto is an extreme cynic who would rather lash out in anger when provoked, no matter who it hurts. And Xavier is an extreme idealist who believes everyone deserves a chance, despite evil mutants like Apocalypse, Shadow King, and Sabretooth existing in plain sight.
It is explained a lot in the comics that both Xavier's and Erik's goals only work if they are working together. Xavier's vision is too narrow minded and he needs Erik to see the bigger picture and bring awareness to Charles. Erik moves too fast to extreme measures and lashes out due to his trauma. He needs Charles to keep himself in the present, and focus him to the correct path.
I completely agree with your assessment and appreciate the way you outline the key points. This show's first season was amazing, although that is putting it mildly. I like how we are seeing storylines which have not yet been explored in this portrayal of the X-Men. The themes are much more mature, darker than the original 90s show. I am excited as ever for season 2!!!
It is especially fucked when you remember that Xavier could literally just brain wipe Sabretooth and he doesn't, despite the fact that he's a wanton rapist murderer...
Magneto is a villain that you just can't hate. His anger is very justifiable. He tried to do things Charles way for the sake of his dream and friendship. He turned himself into the UN, saved humans, and he finally built a society where mutants can live peacefully. Only for that to be taken away by the humans he just reconciled with. And him watching thousands of people he promised to protect die.
According to comics it was 94% of entire mutant population! This is not something you bounce back from or recover from, it was a targeted genocide. I really find it hard to sympathise with Charles and his sing along Kumbaya songs with humans after they wiped out willingly 94% of your people, in my opinion this should have been the tipping point for him to finally get the point co-existance is impossible.
Magneto basically went though two holocausts. As a Mutant and a Holocaust survivor, it was the concentration camps. Over 6 million Jews were killed off (as well as millions of other marginalized people like Poles, Roma-Sinti, LGBT, disabled, etc). And then it was Genosha. 16 million Mutants killed. Magneto was right.
he did things his way for 4 episodes and gave up when tragedy struck. magneto is fundamentally incompatible with xavier's ideology, he is too traumatized by the holocaust to ever be willing to fight on the backfoot.
When you stop and think about it, Charles is a crappy friend and hypocrite. Eric put aside his beliefs and fully embraced Charles' dream of human-mutant co-existence. And what did he get for his troubles? He almost got depowered. He almost got assassinated. He lost an X-men. Genosha got obliterated. And he got kidnapped by a twisted human sentenal hybrid. Then, here comes Charles acting Sanctomonius while he is out in space trying to score some birdoussy. Eric mourned Charles, who was never dead. I'd be pissed too.
Not to mention that Magneto shutting off the world's power is the only reason any of them are even still alive, since the Prime Sentinels would've overwhelmed them. Sure, a bunch of people died in planes and whatever but considering how many Sentinel sleeper agents there are all over the world wtf else was he gonna do
@@Azure029Exactly. The only reason they are alive is basically because of him. Charles is just a spoilt rich womanising groomer who gives a false sense of righteousness since he has never suffered in his life. So it’s easy for him to be the good guy
This is a complicated issue. Charles was originally in space to heal from his life threatening injuries but then a lot has changed since he left and most for better but worse overall. Mutants have an impossible ultimatum and sometimes the answer isn’t quite so simple. What Magneto is doing is justified but doesn’t always mean it’s right the ends don’t always justify the means. Charles can’t really be in this position either considering he wasn’t really present for the events and he not really seeing the big issue but what he strives for is still commendable. What are mutants to do?
@@VunderGuy Exactly. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@batman369able God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Magneto lying and making excuses for himself again. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Rogue leaving makes little sense to me- as it's the xmen who are actively about to stop Bastion and she was obsessed with revenge barely an episode ago.
Considering how pissed off Magneto got at the UN when Storm lost her powers, you'd think at some point he would've been like: "Come to me, my X-Men. Let us leave this would behind and... Oh, shit! Storm?! You got your powers back! Lookin' good as always, goddess!"
@@Liliphant_well to be fair Storm did say she wanted to go solo, plus the real Jean grey coming back, Genosha and the either things kinda kept everyone busy
Rogue used “them” to refer to Morph. It’s fkin disgusting to see woke disney infecting such a great series. X-men 97 is doing great now but these little inserts of pronouns only leads to more and more till it completely destroys it. Tolerance really is extinction. Keep tolerating a little bit of pronouns today and soon this series will be extinct.
@@danielmata610 guy, it's such a little detail in the show that if that's bothering you this much already than you might be obsessing over the wrong things
Professor X: Magnus, be reasonable... Magneto: In spite of humanity's hypocrisies and insults, I begged them to safely get out of my way. They have exhausted my patience. But I do hope you understand, Charles, that even now, what's about to happen, this is me... being reasonable...
Rogue is angry. So is Roberto. That's why they choose to join Magneto. The rest use that anger to fight for a better world, not to destroy the one that exists.
@@jordanloux3883Ehhh. I'd argue the X-Men need to fundamentally change their approach to "fight for a better world". Playing hero to try to sway public opinion is a good thing, but that public opinion is fickle and when manipulators like Bastion are around, easily turned against mutant kind. They need what Genosha almost was, an internationally recognized power that would protect mutant kind and provide a safe space for them to live, whatever the public thinks. Something that couldn't be destroyed without serious consequences for all the powers of the world. Only then would mutants truly have the respect to demand coexistence instead of begging and praying for it while being exterminated. As long as things keep going the way they are Bastion's vision of the future is what is going to come about, not Xavier's. Quite literally without Magneto's actions the X-Men and hope for all mutant kind would have been destroyed in the previous episode.
How the hell did he survive if the blast broke through his barrier and vaporized Leech? I assume it has something to do with Bastion, and I bet he planned on Cooper freeing him.
@@Alex_Logan22 he is probably more durable due to his powers compared to Leech. The blast probably knocked him unconscious which made the tri-sentinel not see him as a threat anymore. Thus sparing him for Bastion to capture him.
@@CeliMe007 The sentinel said the threat was eliminated, not neutralized like Gambit. The only way that makes sense is if someone teleported/transported him in the last second, his human flesh isn’t superhuman in any way and cannot take a blast that vaporized the morlocks. He could’ve made a smaller force field but then Leech should’ve survived too since he was clinging onto him. The sentinel was far too efficient to walk away from a heartbeat.
So during the Gala before Magento is shown walking down the steps, you can see what appears to be Bastion walking past on an adjacent balcony. It's very quick and easy to miss but case in point, Bastion was already in Genosha that night. Toward the end of ep 8, Bastion is shown creating a portal that allows him to quickly return to his lab after Magento escaped. It it highly likely that Bastion teleported Mags away at the last minute to spare his life. As obviously Bastion had plans to use Magento as a weapon.
@@jamilahrazzaq8780 That's a good explanation, but still weird for such an efficient mastermind to not see Cooper freeing Magneto coming, I thought surely it was part of his plan for some reason, but Magneto's blackout ended up being the biggest threat to his plan, so weird.
"Gods abandon those who believe in them; mutants do not." Bars! That sound like a line that would've fit in easily in the 90s series. I just wish they had done this show maybe five years earlier. David Hemblen would've nailed these lines with such meaning and theatrics. Matthew Waterson does a good job, though.
I don't think it works in context coming from Magneto who is being unreasonable (as Magneto often is). It only makes sense to me if he said something like 'gods abandon those who do NOT believe because they have proven themselves no longer WORTHY of grace' or whatever.
@@matttriano if magneto said that then he is just he is just agreeing with Professor x. Also Magento do think of himself as superior but not as a God coz he don't want other mutants to see him as a god as he thinks he equal to any other mutant.
It's a lie. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@kartikeygupta3958 So, he'd rather lie than agree? Magneto's wrong. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@reno2319people forget that Rogue was originally a villain, and when she lead her own X-Men team, it was filled with villains, like Mystique and Sabretooth.
1.Classic rogue wasn't that popular and was fucking ugly. I don't mean like circus ugly I mean ugly like normal human ugly. 2.She was a viallaness for so little of her canon existence that most people not only forget it, but forget how much of menace she was with her power use back then. And no one gives a shit. They already fucked up rogue with this ill-conceived relationship stuff. It simply can't figt into the 90's xmen and not come off as fucked up. It just can't.
@@incognit01233 Subjective since not everyone who has watched this show has read a Rogue comic before the nineties and also Rogue's nineties costume is hella gaudy and ugly in comparison to the costume she's wearing in this episode. At least the show improved on the Jim Lee look by making the jacket green instead of shit brown.
Same old thing but I don't blame Rogue for going. Don't know if she'll stay with Magneto after what he did to Logan. But seriously Rogue, Magneto, you are better then him and those damn mutant haters. I'm sure Gambit would be turning in his grave right now.
Didn’t you see Rogue attacked Logan, I know it was just to neutralize him since Logan wouldn’t hurt Rogue. And also Sunspot attacked Jubilee but didn’t 100% want to hurt her. I know those two don’t really want to hurt their friends but they might accept Magneto making Wolverine suffer the most pain he as ever felt.
A lot of people dislike Rogue for going...Rogue. However, people are forgetting just how traumatic the events of episode 5 were for her. The last time she saw Magneto he was protecting her so she woudnt be "killed" as well.
@@tasiashiraori To be fair, I remember Sasuke being bashed quite a lot for that as well. I think the most contentious point here is while Magneto is rightfully 100% done with trying to play nice - and of course Rogue would be too - his current course of action doesn't help mutants at all, and in fact would probably kill most of them. This is not a well thought-out plan, it's him (understandably) lashing out in the biggest way he can, without thinking too much on the long term consequences, even for those he wants to protect.
If you actually listen to Magnetos’s plan, he is offering mutants to just leave. He isn’t saying let’s take over earth or kill the humans. I know he would be leaving Earth a mess, but let’s be honest, they earned it.
He fucked with the planets magnetic poles, he’s not leaving it a mess everyone’s finna die. All because of bastion and his self serving dream, he even said the people he made prime sentinels don’t even know it themselves
He's not leaving it a mess, he's leaving it to death, and only three mutants, including him, would be the survivors. He's not thinking this one through
Living in hiding and abandoning your home, which you have a right to, isn't just leaving. Abandoning your best friend and every mutant on earth isn't just leaving. It's running away. Sooner or later he'll get tired of running, he'll be back, because everyone gets tired of it. Moral ambiguity sucks, it does, living in the grey area sucks. But you either live there or live in denial - there's no other choice. Life ISN'T black and white, gods and monsters, or might and right. There's choice, there's freedom, and the game is never finite. Magneto wears a helmet not to protect himself from Xavier but to hide behind the idea that he has to, that Xavier might decide their ultimate fate by power and not reason. Magneto always plays black because deep down he knows Xavier has always made the first move. He plays black to have the excuse that he has no other choice but to defend himself. When given the white side of the board, he merely played defense. He retaliated but he never moved. He never *built* anything. Imagine if he cared this much about everyone, what he could do in a single day. He could solve the energy crisis, he could fix mountains, he could build cities in an evening... if he could only trust a single engineer to help him make the plans. Trust anyone besides himself. Instead, he reacts his entire life. Given power, Xavier built a school. Given a mutant power, Xavier used it to heal and teach. Magneto chooses to obsess over the actions of a few, but has he ever walked the earth without a uniform and just *asked* people what they believed? Did he ever give anyone else a chance? Nope. Too scared. If he had any sense, when the man that can read the mind of the WORLD all at once tells you there's hope, there's god damned hope. Xavier isn't espousing peace frivolously. He can observe it without reading anyone's mind. There are people that care about their plight, there's people that can be convinced - and Xavier knows it. Magneto can't believe in it because he's too into being a Roman Legionnaire. The truth, underneath all that exquisite dialogue - is that Magneto doesn't want Brotherhood, he wants tyrannical leadership. He's infected with the idea that he needs to lead because nobody else will do what he can - not because he has power, but because he has real fear. It's why he hides behind Magneto and not Erik, because he's damn near schizophrenic about his own idolism... and trying to simplify life is a great way to make it complicated. Man this show is written well though, it's such a human thing to want to rely on power instead of grace.
This was, by far, the most strongest argument I have ever seen on the X-Men franchise. From that point on, Erik had lost faith in humanity all together after what has happened in Genosha and that was just after he spared those in the UN when he chose to be judged for his actions, by the book. Charles recently knew the tragedy that was unfold when he felt the minds of Gambit and many others being disintegrated into nothing. At this point, he literally cannot talk his way out of this nor convince Magneto to stand down, not when he survived another genocide that he hoped to avoid after his days in the Holocaust. When Rogue and Roberto join forces with him, I didn’t blame them for it because A: Marie was there when it all happened and watched the man that she truly loved after all die to vaporize Master Mold with his last breath and B: Sunspot’s mother said that she accepted him for what he is and yet, she handed him over to the Prime Sentinels by listening to their lies and prevent being looked down upon by everyone that knew her, thus proving that she’s actually a hypocrite because any real mother would die first than to let anyone touch their offspring. With all that said, Professor X was beaten at his own game when the humans truly refuse to live side by side with them.
I love the little story they had with magneto and the child, magneto rescues him, the kid gets excited when he sees him in genosha, then the attack happens and magneto attempts to rescue him again, only this time he knows what’s gonna happen, he looks at the kid and says “don’t be afraid” then it isn’t mentioned until this scene, shows you that Magneto isn’t a villain, he’s just tired of dealing with humans
To quote Ultron, "when the world starts to settle, god throws a stone at it" there was peace, forwardness and acceptance to the world happening but The UN, Valerie Cooper and Bastian decided to throw the stone.
The One True and Only God YHWH Jehovah is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One and Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Easy. The humans did not cause this. It is some Bs robot from the future and Magneto knows it. He is punishing the humans for something they did not do. Sure they did not help, and they are asshole for that, but this is not their fault.
But it’s a robot created by humans because of people like Magneto. It is their fault they created a weapon that would wage war and try to enslave people and thought they wouldn’t fight back? Humans caused all of this and set this chain of events in motion. They never created weapons to simply protect them from mutants this was the end goal from the beginning of the sentinel program
@@djco8919Not even that their governments didn’t help that is small fraction of humanity deciding not help that doesn’t mean every single human is culpable
The whole world went bonkers after 9/11 imagine if something like Genosia happended in the real world , most mutants would join Magneto at this point and those who don't are just too afraid of whats to come. But Xavier is also right , especially since we know Bastion is behind all of it not humanity 100%. And eye for eye wouldn't work here , it would just bring destruction and oblivion for both sides. Magneto is arguing for the nuclear option while Xavier is trying to avoid nuclear war.Even if he understands and can agreed with some of Magneto's points.
Here is the thing..both are worng. And write Megnito is right in a sence that mutants can't continue to request tolerance and get extinction every time. Ans Charles is right that blowing upp the earth is worng
But Bastion isn't behind it all. Every prime Sentinal choose this path, Every hero ignored the injustice. Captain America, Iron man, Thor, where were they during Genoshia, where were they during the outbreak of primes... They let it happen.
@@TheHeadNinjainComics I know he (Logan) doesn't. But I'm just saying that she jinxed it where she said that line of "not seeing any more mutants die." Unfortunately for Logan though this is where he becomes his feral self if the X-Men 97 even goes that far with him.
@@TheHeadNinjainComics The seeds have been planted at the rate that everything has been happening so far. So I wouldn't doubt it, plus I think after the final episode it may happen for the next season.
But you can justify being on Magento's, when he's talking genocide? He intends to allow humanity to be wiped out. Even the innocent ones who have no hatred for mutants and never wished them any harm. Mutants will be killed too. The ones that don't agree with and join him. He's willing to sacrifice the very people he's claiming to want to protect.
“Hell, Morph was barely on the team for 30 minutes before we toss them to the wolves” After binging like 2-3 season of the OG X-Men I gotta admit that’s a fucked up oversimplification of what happened but in a way she’s also not wrong 😬🤦♂️
I would say, as Magneto is too radical Xavier is also too soft, they should look for justice for Genosha and get the people involved incarcerated or have contingencies against humans but Xavier wouldn't even agree with that much
"Rouge don't turn your back on family" I'm sorry Storm did you not litterally just get back from bailing on your family because you lost your powers? Sure Rouge probably shouldn't be siding with Magneto on this but you don't get to play the don't leave your family card.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 yes they are different, but they do stem from the same place, the value and trust you put in to that family, if Storm is so able to walk away because of the loss of her powers then why should Rogue stick with them instead of doing what she thinks is right?
I totally agree and understand. What I love about the x men is the understood complications. I don’t see Magneto as a villain. Genosha was beautiful for mutants. I’d side with Magneto. I’d build help build a new genosha. Right after the agreement they attacked Genosha. Brutal, I’m loving this new marvel keep it up.
The sad thing is that Magneto DID try to make Xavier’s dream a reality, walked his path and nearly saw the day when mutants were accepted. Then Genosha was attacked when it was barely starting, leaving hundreds if not thousands dead, and with them Magneto’s desire to walk Xavier’s path. Xavier would talk and talk while innocent mutants die, then would do nothing but talk again. Magneto, while drastic, knew humanity would never accept mutants, so he decided enough was enough and tried to save as many as he could. Edit: the sad fact is that Xavier’s dream is truly dead and even he knows it, but he can’t stop hoping for it Edit 2: while Magneto’s actions are extreme and wrong, he’s not wrong with what he’s preaching. No one speaks up when he says that Xavier’s dream is dead, and even Beast earlier said the death of Genosha was the death of a dream. Even Xavier’s most devoted children can’t ignore that his dream is dead, which is pretty sad that he continues to cling to it
All Magneto would do is replace who does the oppressing, turning a wheel that never ends. Under his "mutants should rule the world" mentality, people like Spidey, Hulk, Captain American, Iron Man, Hawkeye, would all be second class citizens. Replacing the majority doesn't fix the problem, it just punts it to the new minority. Magneto is wrong, period. That's the whole point of the Onslaught arc - regardless of who is in charge (mutants or humans), nobody wins.
Bro say it louder! Everyone saying "mAgNeTo Is RiGhT" when's he's really not. If anything he's acting just like Trask and all the others. That doesn't solve anything it just repeats the cycle
@@phantomhero21Shove it. Magneto tried to be nice, and look where it got him. Genocide changes people. He is done being nice and merciful. If Magneto has to perish; then he will take the whole world with him.
@@dravguitao7265 Then what makes him any different from all the mutant haters? It becomes a cycle with no winner. Hell, in one series, Xavier managed to convince both sides to stop by showing them the dark future should they continue. Despite that and Kelly shutting down sentinels, Magneto still wanted to continue and orchestrated a war
@@phantomhero21What makes him different is that he actually gave a legitimate effort for peace. This isn't blind hate but a man who has been disappointed over and over again by humanity finally saying "enough".
The music and thought behind this show is actually incredible. At 1:37 you can hear a mutated version of "Dies Irae", an ancient musical motif. Its used a LOT in movies or shows, but the original Latin poem describes the Last Judgement. So that motif hits, Magneto drops a few bars, and then we get: "We are left with but two choices Cling to this dying world Or rise to your future and look down upon this falling pigsty planet" Even the soundtrack knows Magento is bringing Judgement Day. What a great show
"Gods abandon those who believe in them." Is such a *beautiful* Magneto line. Of course that's how he sees faith and gods. That he turns it into "We will be better than gods" is glorious hubris.
It just shows how Magneto lies to himself and other to justify his worst actions and make excuses for them. The truth is, God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering. PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@Dagenspear "Lies to himself" implies the answer to be obvious and self-evidently in your favor, but of course that pushes the narrative you're looking for where faith and goodness are synonymous and cannot exist without eachother. Piss off evangelist, I'm here to make literary analysis.
@@parkerdixon-word6295 except everyone knows outside of faith it is only opinion which guides right and wrong in a godless world tell me what makes the holocaust evil
@@durrangodsgrief6503 Well considering people don't want to die, or be genocided, and collectively most of humanity agreed that it was wrong and evil. Thats what makes it evil. And, not to bring more religion into this than you already did, the Nazi's were Christians, who believed they were doing God's work. Which, I don't see how you can argue against since there's about 45000 versions all of which think they're right. In the context of the show, you've got humans with godlike powers who are effectively gods among men, who are hated because of something that they can't change. And when you're as powerful as Magneto or Storm are, and you're continuously discrimnated against by what can be perceived as lesser beings, I think being pissed is very much justified. Especially after trying for peace. Magneto honored Charles' wishes, he TRIED to follow Charles' path, and basically got a slap in the face in return. When you take into consideration that Erik himself is Jewish and saw his family and his people rounded up into concentration camps, with his people's god doing nothing to save them from genocide his "Gods abandon those who believe in them" line makes a lot more sense. The implication that "We will be better gods" is there but, its not like its unwarranted. In Erik's eyes, Yahweh failed them, and so did humanity. So hey, if god won't save and protect his people, in this case mutant kind, then he has to do it himself.
@@byronjefferson1697 yeah no that doesnt work the nazi thought what they did was right so you have no grounds to deny what they did if morality was based on popularity them then shit like slavery is correct, in a nation where rape is allowed and is agreed upon how can you say its evil or even Mao and Stalin who were atheists who subjugated their people how can what they did be denied as evil if they believe it right why should they adhere to the human agreement what reason do they have your both men what makes your wishes greater than theirs
To be fair she was specially referring to the X-Men who were members at the time and if I recall correctly Kurt got knocked out pretty early on and only saw the aftermath.
I don’t think people understand how much magneto actually tried to compromise with humans even before Charles”death” like he could’ve used his magnetic powers to end the world( what he’s doing now) at any given time before now like there’s no need for planets aligning or him charging up like this is how strong magneto actually is… he’s always been nice but the human pushed him and started a war that they should’ve known they could’ve never won lol magneto’s restraint is almost saint like
Wolverine: "Hm. The metal in my skeleton makes this guy a hard counter to me......I'm gonna flash my claws and try to intimidate him." BTW, I will never get tired of the localized northern lights effect Erik indirectly produces around him by cranking up the scale of his magnetism.
Undo Genosha? Nobody knows it yet but humans didn't do that. Bastion did. Even the humans who were "in on it" like Cooper, she didn't know Bastion would do something so extreme. That's why she had a change of heart to set Magneto free... Bastion wants this war. Its why he kept Magneto alive. So the humans and mutants would destroy each other.
Bastion was created by future sentinels and those all lead back to humans like Trask and Gyrich, as well as everyone complicit in funding their operations over the years. Humans very much caused Genosha, even if it was indirectly.
@@GarthTheDestroyerAll of whom basically said "You're crazy, tf!" in their own way. Doom said he doesn't condone what happened; he only wanted contingencies.
I hope this sounds as relatable as I wish it to. In my 20’s, I would have stand with Xavier. In my 30’s I am beaten down for being different. Angry and Hurt. I see myself joining Megneto. Pain does change someone.
He was going up their so he could safely permantely alter the earth magnetic field essentially getting rid of advance technology and without that mutants would basically be unstoppable. Atleast thats how I understood this episode
@@flamingbow10 HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA Are you stoned? They have the asgardians, the atlanteans, the iornfistst, the hulk, they have entire pantehons of pissdd of gods demigods and ghost rider and stephen strange. The fu\\ck is he thinking?
That just goes to show how blinded she is by grief and anger, she doesn’t even know what she’s doing. She doesn’t mean any harm but to only serve justice for her people.
As humans, we are both capable of being benevolent or malevolent Magneto can only see malevolence coming from humans, so he answers with more violence against them Professor X mainly sees the benevolence of humanity, even where there isn't and this way of thinking makes his dream only that, a dream, since obviously there are humans that won't accept the existence of mutants Both of them are wrong, Magneto isn't different from those who attack the mutants, Professor X is delusional with his ideals and Humanity's cruelest part is unfortunately much louder than the empathic part
@@mossgeorge2001 isn't professor X and Magneto inspired by this? Someone told me something like that Still, my text is basically the same to that debate Usually you have to hope that the good people's voices will became louder than the bad people By being a pacifist, you end up being an "easy target" so the voices of the bad people increase with their violence towards you While by being a violent, you end up being the villain even to the eyes of the good people
Man, I would side with Magneto before he'd even have the chance to make the offer! I ain't about to side with people who CHOSE genocide when peace was finally within everyone's grasp!
@@samuelsouza3054 Correction. Genosha was caused by an android. who was created by humans, and manipulated other humans into making it all possible simply simply by saying shit like "Mutants, am I right?"
@@lucariothegodboi So you're basically saying that, if a human creates a handgun and a mutant used it to kill another mutant us the human's fault? Yeah bro, you didn't even tried to make sense there.
@@samuelsouza3054 At any point, Trask could have said "No. I won't do it. I won't make a machine meant to cause genocide." But he didn't. He chose to make that accursed thing knowing it would only be used to kill everyone at Genosha. That's much different than someone making a handgun. When you make a gun, you at least have the hope that whoever buys it will only use it in self defense and as a last resort. When that three headed sentinel was made, it was made knowing it would be used for cruelty and immediately.
@@samuelsouza3054 and that goes for all of the humans. Not one of them said "enough's enough". Not one of them tried to sue for peace or say "this is going too far". The only person who did was Magneto. Magneto decided to be the better man and stopped attacking. And look what happened.
Erik's relapse to Magneto was inevitable, but it's hard not to side with him. You can't help to not blame him for how he feels. He tried it Xavier's way and embraced his path, only to have that hope taken from him again by the people who were no different than the ones that tormented him through the holocaust. He lost an X-Men (Gambit) and a child that he promised a future of no fear only to watch him die in front of him. His reasons that set him off are justified.
Xavier: Magnus, please! Be reasonable!
Magneto: Charles, they vaporized a child who was clinging to me for dear life. Why the fuck would I be reasonable with these people?
In b4 the “That wasn’t humanity that was Bastion. Humanity is innocent” people find this cause like bruh you are true but you forgot that after Genosha the governments of the world refused to let the mutants return to their nation of origin essentially forcing them to lie in poverty and squalor. How can you reason with heartless evil like that
@@Crystal_Dylan Exactly! Like, I completely disagree with Magneto's methods, and his reasoning that all of humanity should pay the price, but holy fuck do I understand where he's coming from. He's literally a two-time genocide survivor at this point, and twice, the world governments failed him. I'd be done with the planet too if I had the ability to build an asteroid and leave.
@@Crystal_Dylannot to mention Dr. Cooper working alongside bastion....Charles forced magneto to turn power back on the humans attacked with missiles..... like what the fuck
@@Crystal_DylanMembers of the united nations. Hydra. Doom. Other supervillains were all helping Bastain. Bastain was created by superior model sentinels who owe their existence to a bigoted human scientist and fearful humans who sponsored later models of his project. Let's not forget the FoH and their X-ecutioner were allowed by Val Cooper to crash Magneto's trial so they could remove his powers. The whole trial was nothing but a setup. Don't forget thousands of humans volunteered to be involved in the prime sentinel program. Sure they did not know they going to personally be altered into mutant hunting zombies but they were more than willing be part of an anti-mutant group. Even President Kelly, a champion of mutant rights refused to help search for possible survivors of the Genosha massacre because he thought it would hurt his image. Add to that having to watch his family murdered for the sin of being Jewish. Having to deal with horrors of the camps and the Warsaw ghetto. Having to watch his daughter burned alive by superstitious humans. Watching his lover Isabelle have her throat cut by a member of the CIA whom Magneto was working with. Granted Magneto's ruthless methods are wrong. But after all he went through I understand why he just said...."Enough".
@@Crystal_Dylan Not only that, the UN was *fully* complicit in Bastion's activities. They knew almost every detail, and they willingly funded all of it. They have an entire council dedicated to "placating" mutants until they can find a way to completely excise them from this mortal coil.
0:21 - 1:29 "I'm truly sorry for Genosha, my friend. But I can't let you do this."
"You're always sorry, Charles, and there's always a speech, but no one cares anymore."
I knew someone was going to quote Fassbender Magneto.
@varric There's McKellen, too.
"How does it look from there, Charles? Still fighting the good fight? From here, it looks like they're not playing by your rules... *Maybe it's time to play by theirs!* "
😆See?
"If you do this now, you'll make all mutants an enemy for all this."
@jadencoley2177 they already were.
@@DreamersOfReality “For God’s sake man, you’ll lose everything you build and people you care about!”
"When you abandoned us for your Shi'ar bird queen..."
Damn i felt that burn 🤣🤣🤣😤🤯😔
He's not wrong though. He truly dipped out to go simping for Space Cooch and not once thought "What could go wrong without me?..."
@@SuperWolsey He was hurt and left for recooperation.
Another of Magneto's lies. But far above that in the wrong is Magneto's blasphemous lying. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, all humans may commit sexual immorality (gay, straight) and sin, and that's wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@SuperWolsey Absolutely legit point 💯😤🤷🏿♂️
@@SuperWolseyHe left because he was dying and Shi'ar was the only place where his injuries could get treated. Not to mention, he couldn't come back for a picnic because 1) Shi'ar were not allowing it and 2) His supposed death positively affected the mutant-human relations.
The blame goes towards Bastion, Sinister, and Trask to some degree.
the irony though
MAGNETO HELPED XAVIER GO TO SAID BIRD QUEEN lol
at the end of the original series Magneto went to Xavier and saw his ass dying and actually helped to get a psychic message to her so she could pick him up and take him to be healed
what abandonment was there when he helped send Xavier away lol
The saddest part is, neither side is 100% right or wrong. Xavier wants peace and harmony, which is an understandable goal, but he only sees the positives of his goal rather than take the negatives into account, causing him to make decisions such as leaving Magneto and the X-Men to pick up where he left off while he and Lilandra become a couple, even though the X-Men aren't ready to go it alone yet.
Meanwhile Magneto, while understandably upset at Bastion, Sinister, and humanity as a whole for Genosha, fails to realize his plans are doing more harm than good for the mutants he claims to help. Wanting to create a new home for mutants isn't wrong, but changing Earth's axis, like Xavier said, will kill many mutants as well as regular humans.
In the end both sides fall into 2 different extremes, Magneto is an extreme cynic who would rather lash out in anger when provoked, no matter who it hurts. And Xavier is an extreme idealist who believes everyone deserves a chance, despite evil mutants like Apocalypse, Shadow King, and Sabretooth existing in plain sight.
It is explained a lot in the comics that both Xavier's and Erik's goals only work if they are working together. Xavier's vision is too narrow minded and he needs Erik to see the bigger picture and bring awareness to Charles. Erik moves too fast to extreme measures and lashes out due to his trauma. He needs Charles to keep himself in the present, and focus him to the correct path.
I completely agree with your assessment and appreciate the way you outline the key points. This show's first season was amazing, although that is putting it mildly. I like how we are seeing storylines which have not yet been explored in this portrayal of the X-Men. The themes are much more mature, darker than the original 90s show. I am excited as ever for season 2!!!
@@NanayaRevivalthis is why Erik and Xavier’s characters and their relationship is so brilliant.
I wouldn’t say that Apocalypse is necessarily evil, he has complex motives. He sees himself above mutants, but helps them as well.
It is especially fucked when you remember that Xavier could literally just brain wipe Sabretooth and he doesn't, despite the fact that he's a wanton rapist murderer...
Rogue even called out how the show killed off Morph in the first episode
Almost like it was on purpose
Did you care about Morph without bonding time?
Can y explain pls?
@@willg1088 Morph was brought into the series just to get killed off, but was brought back later on due to popularity
@@KelShu can y tell me which ep he died?
@@willg1088 The first episode
Monday: breakfast with the Xmen
Friday: hold asteroid over their house
Saturday: buy groceries
Sunday: Stuck in ancient egipt.
“The GIANT ASTEROID OVER MY HOME says otherwise.” 😂
That *IS* a helluva entrance
Magneto always loves to make a grand entrance.
@@Dragnoff88he's just that dramatic
ASTEROID M.
Underrated line.
Magneto is a villain that you just can't hate. His anger is very justifiable. He tried to do things Charles way for the sake of his dream and friendship. He turned himself into the UN, saved humans, and he finally built a society where mutants can live peacefully. Only for that to be taken away by the humans he just reconciled with. And him watching thousands of people he promised to protect die.
Honestly that reminds me of red hood and the punisher
They served those who stabbed them in the back over and over
16 millions, not thousands.
According to comics it was 94% of entire mutant population! This is not something you bounce back from or recover from, it was a targeted genocide. I really find it hard to sympathise with Charles and his sing along Kumbaya songs with humans after they wiped out willingly 94% of your people, in my opinion this should have been the tipping point for him to finally get the point co-existance is impossible.
Magneto basically went though two holocausts.
As a Mutant and a Holocaust survivor, it was the concentration camps. Over 6 million Jews were killed off (as well as millions of other marginalized people like Poles, Roma-Sinti, LGBT, disabled, etc). And then it was Genosha. 16 million Mutants killed.
Magneto was right.
They are not cooking anymore they are just making straight art
Straight fine, 5-stars-gordon-ramsay level cooking here.
They were... until the last two episodes.
I love how Magneto is calling out Xavier for his faults and how he did things his way but it didn't make things better but worse
Hypocrisy coming from the poster boy of why people fear mutants
@@hellblaze10"Enough."
Magneto is basically just saying, Xavier's plan truly sucks and he deeply regretted following it.
@@wilcals5294 We know damn well he never beleved it
he did things his way for 4 episodes and gave up when tragedy struck. magneto is fundamentally incompatible with xavier's ideology, he is too traumatized by the holocaust to ever be willing to fight on the backfoot.
When you stop and think about it, Charles is a crappy friend and hypocrite. Eric put aside his beliefs and fully embraced Charles' dream of human-mutant co-existence. And what did he get for his troubles? He almost got depowered. He almost got assassinated. He lost an X-men. Genosha got obliterated. And he got kidnapped by a twisted human sentenal hybrid. Then, here comes Charles acting Sanctomonius while he is out in space trying to score some birdoussy. Eric mourned Charles, who was never dead. I'd be pissed too.
Not Birdoussy 😭😭
Not to mention that Magneto shutting off the world's power is the only reason any of them are even still alive, since the Prime Sentinels would've overwhelmed them. Sure, a bunch of people died in planes and whatever but considering how many Sentinel sleeper agents there are all over the world wtf else was he gonna do
@@Azure029Exactly. The only reason they are alive is basically because of him. Charles is just a spoilt rich womanising groomer who gives a false sense of righteousness since he has never suffered in his life. So it’s easy for him to be the good guy
This is a complicated issue. Charles was originally in space to heal from his life threatening injuries but then a lot has changed since he left and most for better but worse overall. Mutants have an impossible ultimatum and sometimes the answer isn’t quite so simple. What Magneto is doing is justified but doesn’t always mean it’s right the ends don’t always justify the means. Charles can’t really be in this position either considering he wasn’t really present for the events and he not really seeing the big issue but what he strives for is still commendable. What are mutants to do?
Exactly
"How many more of your bones will pave the way to Xavier's future." 10/10 foreshadowing
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@@Darklarik3Wolverine
@@Darklarik3 Wolverine gets his skeleton ripped out of his body
Also if you count the movie Logan as canon
noticed how they showed Nightcrawler when Magneto said "Gods abandon those who believe in them. Mutants do not."
Which only shows Magneto is wrong if you know Kurt and his story.
Which is bullshit. I'm sure Toad would attest.
@@VunderGuy Exactly. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@batman369able God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Magneto lying and making excuses for himself again. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Original version, it was Colossus who joins Magneto after losing faith in Xavier, because at that time Illyana was infected.
Where the hell is Collossus ?
@@EM-tx3ly Russia
ILLAYNA!!!!!!!!
His sister died from the Legacy Virus and on her funeral, He left Xavier’s dream for Magneto’s
Rogue leaving makes little sense to me- as it's the xmen who are actively about to stop Bastion and she was obsessed with revenge barely an episode ago.
"In the dream you had me sell" love how you can hear the change in his voice his composure slips for a moment. You can hear his grief.
Considering how pissed off Magneto got at the UN when Storm lost her powers, you'd think at some point he would've been like: "Come to me, my X-Men. Let us leave this would behind and... Oh, shit! Storm?! You got your powers back! Lookin' good as always, goddess!"
It bothers me that nobody checked in on Storm
@@Liliphant_well to be fair Storm did say she wanted to go solo, plus the real Jean grey coming back, Genosha and the either things kinda kept everyone busy
Morph was literally on the team for 30 minutes (one episode) before he went MIA, lol. 😂
Just started the OG and lmfao they were gone no wonder they didn’t get a title card 😂
Rogue used “them” to refer to Morph. It’s fkin disgusting to see woke disney infecting such a great series. X-men 97 is doing great now but these little inserts of pronouns only leads to more and more till it completely destroys it. Tolerance really is extinction. Keep tolerating a little bit of pronouns today and soon this series will be extinct.
@@danielmata610Who the fuck cares
@@danielmata610 guy, it's such a little detail in the show that if that's bothering you this much already than you might be obsessing over the wrong things
@@danielmata610nice bait
Professor X: Magnus, be reasonable...
Magneto: In spite of humanity's hypocrisies and insults, I begged them to safely get out of my way. They have exhausted my patience. But I do hope you understand, Charles, that even now, what's about to happen, this is me... being reasonable...
Like the scarlet witch reference 👍🏿🫡
I love that line
Okay, so by his logic, after Apocalypse, all mutants should be killed.
@@SithLordNefaar022like daughter, like father or is it the other way around…
Scarlet witch: I'm going to have to get involved aren't I?
Quicksilver: No , sister , let's stay out of this one.
Polaris: Agreed
None of you guys were there at genoshia… nightcrawler… “am I a joke to you?”
Rogue is angry. So is Roberto. That's why they choose to join Magneto. The rest use that anger to fight for a better world, not to destroy the one that exists.
@@jordanloux3883Ehhh. I'd argue the X-Men need to fundamentally change their approach to "fight for a better world". Playing hero to try to sway public opinion is a good thing, but that public opinion is fickle and when manipulators like Bastion are around, easily turned against mutant kind. They need what Genosha almost was, an internationally recognized power that would protect mutant kind and provide a safe space for them to live, whatever the public thinks. Something that couldn't be destroyed without serious consequences for all the powers of the world. Only then would mutants truly have the respect to demand coexistence instead of begging and praying for it while being exterminated.
As long as things keep going the way they are Bastion's vision of the future is what is going to come about, not Xavier's. Quite literally without Magneto's actions the X-Men and hope for all mutant kind would have been destroyed in the previous episode.
And that's why Nightcrawler is the best X-Men.
@@jordanloux3883 re: Sunspot- all because mumsey sold him out to hang on to status.
@@jordanloux3883 bro's spitting bars
Magneto: Yeah, I watched a kids eyes boil in his sockets, I'm done and over it.
How the hell did he survive if the blast broke through his barrier and vaporized Leech? I assume it has something to do with Bastion, and I bet he planned on Cooper freeing him.
@@Alex_Logan22 he is probably more durable due to his powers compared to Leech. The blast probably knocked him unconscious which made the tri-sentinel not see him as a threat anymore. Thus sparing him for Bastion to capture him.
@@CeliMe007
The sentinel said the threat was eliminated, not neutralized like Gambit. The only way that makes sense is if someone teleported/transported him in the last second, his human flesh isn’t superhuman in any way and cannot take a blast that vaporized the morlocks. He could’ve made a smaller force field but then Leech should’ve survived too since he was clinging onto him. The sentinel was far too efficient to walk away from a heartbeat.
So during the Gala before Magento is shown walking down the steps, you can see what appears to be Bastion walking past on an adjacent balcony. It's very quick and easy to miss but case in point, Bastion was already in Genosha that night. Toward the end of ep 8, Bastion is shown creating a portal that allows him to quickly return to his lab after Magento escaped. It it highly likely that Bastion teleported Mags away at the last minute to spare his life. As obviously Bastion had plans to use Magento as a weapon.
@@jamilahrazzaq8780
That's a good explanation, but still weird for such an efficient mastermind to not see Cooper freeing Magneto coming, I thought surely it was part of his plan for some reason, but Magneto's blackout ended up being the biggest threat to his plan, so weird.
Him describing how Leech was vaporized was fucked up
The fact that Roberto's own mother turned him in says everything 😢
"Gods abandon those who believe in them; mutants do not." Bars! That sound like a line that would've fit in easily in the 90s series. I just wish they had done this show maybe five years earlier. David Hemblen would've nailed these lines with such meaning and theatrics. Matthew Waterson does a good job, though.
I don't think it works in context coming from Magneto who is being unreasonable (as Magneto often is). It only makes sense to me if he said something like 'gods abandon those who do NOT believe because they have proven themselves no longer WORTHY of grace' or whatever.
I'm sure Toad would have issues with this statement.
@@matttriano if magneto said that then he is just he is just agreeing with Professor x.
Also Magento do think of himself as superior but not as a God coz he don't want other mutants to see him as a god as he thinks he equal to any other mutant.
It's a lie. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@kartikeygupta3958 So, he'd rather lie than agree? Magneto's wrong. God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Can you blame Roberto? His mother gave him up to the Prime Sentinels to protect her reputation. More of a politician than a parent.
Yeah, would have done the same in his shoes
Yeah, his reason is so well written
I even said “what the fuck?” out loud when Roberto was given to the Prime Sentinels.
I think he has the best reason to go with Magneto because he was actually hurt and chained by humans, I mean his own mother.
Rogue's betrayal is well written. However, still hurts to see her fall this hard from grace. She misunderstands Gambit's sacrifice
Agreed
She didn't exactly have time to breathe between Genosha and her short coma
Rogue showed her hand when she let Trask fall. She's squandered Remy's gamble yet again by siding with Magneto.
I mean her name is "Rogue" so it's kinda fitting.
I think she's justified in her switch. You can only turn the other cheek but some many times. She's just tired of watching mutants getting slapped.
Magneto: Are you prepared to walk mine?
Charles: Bruh i can't walk at all.
0:45 'Are you prepared to walk mine' 💀
THAT BURN!!
Magneto survived 2 mass-genocides, he's tired
Eric won this debate hands down, and it kept Charles quiet. Damn what a chad.
This is WAY closer to the classic rogue from the comics and im lown away by how good this is!
I know right?? And some people are saying this is a character assassination of rogue when it's not
@@reno2319people forget that Rogue was originally a villain, and when she lead her own X-Men team, it was filled with villains, like Mystique and Sabretooth.
They also forget that Rogue's character in the comics was created long before Gambit's was apparently.
1.Classic rogue wasn't that popular and was fucking ugly. I don't mean like circus ugly I mean ugly like normal human ugly.
2.She was a viallaness for so little of her canon existence that most people not only forget it, but forget how much of menace she was with her power use back then. And no one gives a shit.
They already fucked up rogue with this ill-conceived relationship stuff. It simply can't figt into the 90's xmen and not come off as fucked up. It just can't.
@@incognit01233 Subjective since not everyone who has watched this show has read a Rogue comic before the nineties and also Rogue's nineties costume is hella gaudy and ugly in comparison to the costume she's wearing in this episode. At least the show improved on the Jim Lee look by making the jacket green instead of shit brown.
Magneto voice casting is 20/10
Same old thing but I don't blame Rogue for going. Don't know if she'll stay with Magneto after what he did to Logan. But seriously Rogue, Magneto, you are better then him and those damn mutant haters. I'm sure Gambit would be turning in his grave right now.
Provavelmente a irnandade vai entrar em cena.
What?
Cyclops is right
er logan tried to kill magneto.
Didn’t you see Rogue attacked Logan, I know it was just to neutralize him since Logan wouldn’t hurt Rogue.
And also Sunspot attacked Jubilee but didn’t 100% want to hurt her.
I know those two don’t really want to hurt their friends but they might accept Magneto making Wolverine suffer the most pain he as ever felt.
A lot of people dislike Rogue for going...Rogue. However, people are forgetting just how traumatic the events of episode 5 were for her. The last time she saw Magneto he was protecting her so she woudnt be "killed" as well.
They're okay with Sasuke leaving Konoha after losing his family, but get upset with Rogue leaving X-Men after losing her boyfriend?
I'd say that Rogue goes Anakin Skywalker.
@@tasiashiraori To be fair, I remember Sasuke being bashed quite a lot for that as well.
I think the most contentious point here is while Magneto is rightfully 100% done with trying to play nice - and of course Rogue would be too - his current course of action doesn't help mutants at all, and in fact would probably kill most of them. This is not a well thought-out plan, it's him (understandably) lashing out in the biggest way he can, without thinking too much on the long term consequences, even for those he wants to protect.
If you actually listen to Magnetos’s plan, he is offering mutants to just leave. He isn’t saying let’s take over earth or kill the humans. I know he would be leaving Earth a mess, but let’s be honest, they earned it.
He fucked with the planets magnetic poles, he’s not leaving it a mess everyone’s finna die. All because of bastion and his self serving dream, he even said the people he made prime sentinels don’t even know it themselves
He's not leaving it a mess, he's leaving it to death, and only three mutants, including him, would be the survivors. He's not thinking this one through
Living in hiding and abandoning your home, which you have a right to, isn't just leaving. Abandoning your best friend and every mutant on earth isn't just leaving.
It's running away.
Sooner or later he'll get tired of running, he'll be back, because everyone gets tired of it.
Moral ambiguity sucks, it does, living in the grey area sucks. But you either live there or live in denial - there's no other choice.
Life ISN'T black and white, gods and monsters, or might and right.
There's choice, there's freedom, and the game is never finite. Magneto wears a helmet not to protect himself from Xavier but to hide behind the idea that he has to, that Xavier might decide their ultimate fate by power and not reason. Magneto always plays black because deep down he knows Xavier has always made the first move. He plays black to have the excuse that he has no other choice but to defend himself. When given the white side of the board, he merely played defense. He retaliated but he never moved. He never *built* anything.
Imagine if he cared this much about everyone, what he could do in a single day. He could solve the energy crisis, he could fix mountains, he could build cities in an evening... if he could only trust a single engineer to help him make the plans. Trust anyone besides himself.
Instead, he reacts his entire life.
Given power, Xavier built a school. Given a mutant power, Xavier used it to heal and teach.
Magneto chooses to obsess over the actions of a few, but has he ever walked the earth without a uniform and just *asked* people what they believed? Did he ever give anyone else a chance? Nope.
Too scared.
If he had any sense, when the man that can read the mind of the WORLD all at once tells you there's hope, there's god damned hope. Xavier isn't espousing peace frivolously. He can observe it without reading anyone's mind. There are people that care about their plight, there's people that can be convinced - and Xavier knows it. Magneto can't believe in it because he's too into being a Roman Legionnaire. The truth, underneath all that exquisite dialogue - is that Magneto doesn't want Brotherhood, he wants tyrannical leadership. He's infected with the idea that he needs to lead because nobody else will do what he can - not because he has power, but because he has real fear. It's why he hides behind Magneto and not Erik, because he's damn near schizophrenic about his own idolism... and trying to simplify life is a great way to make it complicated.
Man this show is written well though, it's such a human thing to want to rely on power instead of grace.
@@BigMac8000
Yea his fear stems from his childhood and defined him, which is why Charles doesn’t judge him.
@@Pongus_420
He doesn’t realize the planet’s about to die and he’s grieving too much to listen.
Tbf if I were a mutant, I'd follow Magneto especially after Genosha
Same, F humanity for not giving an F about Mutants!
Whats tbf
@@ericthegeneric1611 To Be Fair
@@MagnumBarrage thank you. I would 🤔 have not guessed that.
@@ericthegeneric1611 to be fair
0:03 Char Aznable: *heavy breathing noises as he wanted Axis to drop on Earth and make everyone leave for space*
A colony drop is just as good right??
LOL MAGNETO IN HIS SAZABI!
This comment is gold
This was, by far, the most strongest argument I have ever seen on the X-Men franchise. From that point on, Erik had lost faith in humanity all together after what has happened in Genosha and that was just after he spared those in the UN when he chose to be judged for his actions, by the book. Charles recently knew the tragedy that was unfold when he felt the minds of Gambit and many others being disintegrated into nothing. At this point, he literally cannot talk his way out of this nor convince Magneto to stand down, not when he survived another genocide that he hoped to avoid after his days in the Holocaust. When Rogue and Roberto join forces with him, I didn’t blame them for it because A: Marie was there when it all happened and watched the man that she truly loved after all die to vaporize Master Mold with his last breath and B: Sunspot’s mother said that she accepted him for what he is and yet, she handed him over to the Prime Sentinels by listening to their lies and prevent being looked down upon by everyone that knew her, thus proving that she’s actually a hypocrite because any real mother would die first than to let anyone touch their offspring. With all that said, Professor X was beaten at his own game when the humans truly refuse to live side by side with them.
Cable probably heard this argument a million times and hes just there waiting for it to be over 😂
I love the little story they had with magneto and the child, magneto rescues him, the kid gets excited when he sees him in genosha, then the attack happens and magneto attempts to rescue him again, only this time he knows what’s gonna happen, he looks at the kid and says “don’t be afraid” then it isn’t mentioned until this scene, shows you that Magneto isn’t a villain, he’s just tired of dealing with humans
This rivalry will always be iconic
"Gods abandon those who believe in them. Mutants do not" Holy shit what a line.
New debate, same topic.
Same Old Debate
To quote Ultron, "when the world starts to settle, god throws a stone at it" there was peace, forwardness and acceptance to the world happening but The UN, Valerie Cooper and Bastian decided to throw the stone.
The One True and Only God YHWH Jehovah is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One and Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@Dagenspear Ugh. Proselytize somewhere else.
If you think about the scope of Magneto’s powers, a large asteroid hovering over someone’s house IS him being reasonable. That’s terrifying.
I have never been able to really argue against Magneto, man is so gosh darn well spoken xD
Sounds like a skill issue. Ignore the words and focus on the actions.
Easy. The humans did not cause this. It is some Bs robot from the future and Magneto knows it. He is punishing the humans for something they did not do. Sure they did not help, and they are asshole for that, but this is not their fault.
But it’s a robot created by humans because of people like Magneto. It is their fault they created a weapon that would wage war and try to enslave people and thought they wouldn’t fight back? Humans caused all of this and set this chain of events in motion. They never created weapons to simply protect them from mutants this was the end goal from the beginning of the sentinel program
@@djco8919 The UN cooperated with Bastion lmao, why do you think he has an entire room's worth of screens with world leaders?
@@djco8919Not even that their governments didn’t help that is small fraction of humanity deciding not help that doesn’t mean every single human is culpable
1:12 just gives me chills man
It heartbreaking every time I hear Magneto talk about Leech's death
Xavier says "Be reasonable!" while Eric undoubtedly still has the ash of the vaporized Morlocs in his lungs.
The whole world went bonkers after 9/11 imagine if something like Genosia happended in the real world , most mutants would join Magneto at this point and those who don't are just too afraid of whats to come.
But Xavier is also right , especially since we know Bastion is behind all of it not humanity 100%. And eye for eye wouldn't work here , it would just bring destruction and oblivion for both sides. Magneto is arguing for the nuclear option while Xavier is trying to avoid nuclear war.Even if he understands and can agreed with some of Magneto's points.
Xavier knows they're just pawns being played for a greater threat, most probably Magneto is one of his plans too
Exactly. Magneto is just a pawn in Bastion's hand in order to give green light to the Sentinel Program.
Here is the thing..both are worng. And write
Megnito is right in a sence that mutants can't continue to request tolerance and get extinction every time.
Ans Charles is right that blowing upp the earth is worng
But Bastion isn't behind it all. Every prime Sentinal choose this path, Every hero ignored the injustice. Captain America, Iron man, Thor, where were they during Genoshia, where were they during the outbreak of primes... They let it happen.
@@WhysoSeriousSamualThey weren’t there because X-Men stop making sense in the wider scope of Marvel Comics when other superheroes show up.
2:52 once again Rogue had to jinx that line when she Witnesses Magneto ripping the metal out of Wolverine's skeleton
If you’re familiar with the comics then you know that won’t kill him.
@@TheHeadNinjainComics I know he (Logan) doesn't. But I'm just saying that she jinxed it where she said that line of "not seeing any more mutants die."
Unfortunately for Logan though this is where he becomes his feral self if the X-Men 97 even goes that far with him.
@@kamenrangerzeo8251 They most likely will go that route. Hell! They might do Onslaught next season.
@@TheHeadNinjainComics The seeds have been planted at the rate that everything has been happening so far. So I wouldn't doubt it, plus I think after the final episode it may happen for the next season.
It's crazy because Magneto sounds like the reasonable one here, like realistically I can't justify being on Charles side here
But you can justify being on Magento's, when he's talking genocide? He intends to allow humanity to be wiped out. Even the innocent ones who have no hatred for mutants and never wished them any harm. Mutants will be killed too. The ones that don't agree with and join him. He's willing to sacrifice the very people he's claiming to want to protect.
Honestly I can't blame anyone for siding with Magneto
I hope I'm not the only one who got old school X-Men Arcade game vibes with that asteroid descending, that's how awesome this show is!!
Magento: How the fuck can I be reasonable after that uber sentinel gatecrashed Genosha and killed thousands. 😠
“Hell, Morph was barely on the team for 30 minutes before we toss them to the wolves”
After binging like 2-3 season of the OG X-Men I gotta admit that’s a fucked up oversimplification of what happened but in a way she’s also not wrong 😬🤦♂️
You just hate it that both of them are right and somehow you cant blame them because experience made them like that.
I would say, as Magneto is too radical Xavier is also too soft, they should look for justice for Genosha and get the people involved incarcerated or have contingencies against humans but Xavier wouldn't even agree with that much
The way Magneto asks who else will die for Charles's dream, then Scott and Logan are ready to fight...that got me
"Rouge don't turn your back on family" I'm sorry Storm did you not litterally just get back from bailing on your family because you lost your powers? Sure Rouge probably shouldn't be siding with Magneto on this but you don't get to play the don't leave your family card.
*Rogue
rouge? from sonic the hedgehog?
You are comparing two completely different situations. "Leaving the family" and "turning against the family" are not the same thing
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 yes they are different, but they do stem from the same place, the value and trust you put in to that family, if Storm is so able to walk away because of the loss of her powers then why should Rogue stick with them instead of doing what she thinks is right?
"You weren't there."
It's a diss and the truth
I totally agree and understand. What I love about the x men is the understood complications. I don’t see Magneto as a villain. Genosha was beautiful for mutants. I’d side with Magneto. I’d build help build a new genosha. Right after the agreement they attacked Genosha. Brutal, I’m loving this new marvel keep it up.
My man’s pulled an Asteroid from one part of the planet to another, full costume & helmet ready to give smoke. That’s alpha
Magneto: I walked your path are you prepared to walk mine!
I don't consider this a betrayal. Charles left, the humans slaughtered mutants, and Charles still wants to save the people who are killing them
@@gas467 The reason why Charles Xavier left is because he's dying. And also, Bastion and Sinister are the ones who made all this mess.
The sad thing is that Magneto DID try to make Xavier’s dream a reality, walked his path and nearly saw the day when mutants were accepted. Then Genosha was attacked when it was barely starting, leaving hundreds if not thousands dead, and with them Magneto’s desire to walk Xavier’s path. Xavier would talk and talk while innocent mutants die, then would do nothing but talk again. Magneto, while drastic, knew humanity would never accept mutants, so he decided enough was enough and tried to save as many as he could.
Edit: the sad fact is that Xavier’s dream is truly dead and even he knows it, but he can’t stop hoping for it
Edit 2: while Magneto’s actions are extreme and wrong, he’s not wrong with what he’s preaching. No one speaks up when he says that Xavier’s dream is dead, and even Beast earlier said the death of Genosha was the death of a dream. Even Xavier’s most devoted children can’t ignore that his dream is dead, which is pretty sad that he continues to cling to it
If you don't feel magneto... You're really an avenger
I don't mean to be rude but is that a bad thing 🤔
@@andrewedwards3005 never said it was… a different side isn’t necessarily bad. Also no avengers helped genosha but yeah.
Never take opinions about other heroes from X-Men media
@@HenryLongfellow-lw2gq make sense, x-men title would prioritise x-men stories instead of making other teams take the spotlight.
"I am not the one that needs to be reasoned with"
All Magneto would do is replace who does the oppressing, turning a wheel that never ends. Under his "mutants should rule the world" mentality, people like Spidey, Hulk, Captain American, Iron Man, Hawkeye, would all be second class citizens. Replacing the majority doesn't fix the problem, it just punts it to the new minority. Magneto is wrong, period.
That's the whole point of the Onslaught arc - regardless of who is in charge (mutants or humans), nobody wins.
Bro say it louder! Everyone saying "mAgNeTo Is RiGhT" when's he's really not. If anything he's acting just like Trask and all the others. That doesn't solve anything it just repeats the cycle
@@phantomhero21Shove it. Magneto tried to be nice, and look where it got him. Genocide changes people. He is done being nice and merciful.
If Magneto has to perish; then he will take the whole world with him.
@@dravguitao7265 Then what makes him any different from all the mutant haters? It becomes a cycle with no winner.
Hell, in one series, Xavier managed to convince both sides to stop by showing them the dark future should they continue. Despite that and Kelly shutting down sentinels, Magneto still wanted to continue and orchestrated a war
Fair point! but damn idk how else they could've solved this without Magneto taking action. They were looking like they were about to get wiped out.
@@phantomhero21What makes him different is that he actually gave a legitimate effort for peace. This isn't blind hate but a man who has been disappointed over and over again by humanity finally saying "enough".
Got to love that entrance Magneto master of badass entrances
I agree with Roberto and Rogue joining Magneto.
Flawless logic from Magneto.
Yep , I see Onslaught is on his way !!!
The music and thought behind this show is actually incredible. At 1:37 you can hear a mutated version of "Dies Irae", an ancient musical motif. Its used a LOT in movies or shows, but the original Latin poem describes the Last Judgement. So that motif hits, Magneto drops a few bars, and then we get:
"We are left with but two choices
Cling to this dying world
Or rise to your future and look down upon this falling pigsty planet"
Even the soundtrack knows Magento is bringing Judgement Day. What a great show
And what a great version of magneto, in my opinion THE ABSOLUTE BEST, the movies should learn from this guy.
Humanity allowed the Godzilla sized sentinel massacre genosha and magneto is in the wrong? I would've joined up with him real quick
No that’s bastion humanity didn’t do that magneto was planning on killing billions of people over a thing one guy did
@@KaiqueFriashumanity let 2 genocides happen. Humanity hated mutants all the time. So Magneto was right to get his vengeance.
@@murk4552 yeah because most mutants outside of the X-men were genuinely bad people
Red Skull: Oh the irony is too good 🤣
Red Skull would worship the land Mag floats over
@@falconeshield He wouldn't and hasn't.
@@falconeshieldthe only reason Magnus didn’t kill him was because he didn’t know if it was really him.
@@falconeshieldthe nazi would worship the Jewish mutant?
You do realize what Red Skull is
"Gods abandon those who believe in them." Is such a *beautiful* Magneto line. Of course that's how he sees faith and gods.
That he turns it into "We will be better than gods" is glorious hubris.
It just shows how Magneto lies to himself and other to justify his worst actions and make excuses for them. The truth is, God is always there. But Magneto, like others sadly, refuses to accept that God being on your side doesn't mean you won't face hardship and loss and pain. I think The Holy Bible even speaks on this in regards believers suffering.
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, and that God raised Him from the dead, repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
God tells us through The Holy Bible, "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body." Similar with gayness. LORD willing, it may be all sexual immorality and sin, wrong, all humans sin, as The Holy Bible says, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@Dagenspear "Lies to himself" implies the answer to be obvious and self-evidently in your favor, but of course that pushes the narrative you're looking for where faith and goodness are synonymous and cannot exist without eachother.
Piss off evangelist, I'm here to make literary analysis.
@@parkerdixon-word6295 except everyone knows outside of faith it is only opinion which guides right and wrong in a godless world tell me what makes the holocaust evil
@@durrangodsgrief6503 Well considering people don't want to die, or be genocided, and collectively most of humanity agreed that it was wrong and evil. Thats what makes it evil. And, not to bring more religion into this than you already did, the Nazi's were Christians, who believed they were doing God's work. Which, I don't see how you can argue against since there's about 45000 versions all of which think they're right.
In the context of the show, you've got humans with godlike powers who are effectively gods among men, who are hated because of something that they can't change. And when you're as powerful as Magneto or Storm are, and you're continuously discrimnated against by what can be perceived as lesser beings, I think being pissed is very much justified. Especially after trying for peace. Magneto honored Charles' wishes, he TRIED to follow Charles' path, and basically got a slap in the face in return. When you take into consideration that Erik himself is Jewish and saw his family and his people rounded up into concentration camps, with his people's god doing nothing to save them from genocide his "Gods abandon those who believe in them" line makes a lot more sense. The implication that "We will be better gods" is there but, its not like its unwarranted. In Erik's eyes, Yahweh failed them, and so did humanity. So hey, if god won't save and protect his people, in this case mutant kind, then he has to do it himself.
@@byronjefferson1697 yeah no that doesnt work the nazi thought what they did was right so you have no grounds to deny what they did if morality was based on popularity them then shit like slavery is correct, in a nation where rape is allowed and is agreed upon how can you say its evil or even Mao and Stalin who were atheists who subjugated their people how can what they did be denied as evil if they believe it right why should they adhere to the human agreement what reason do they have your both men what makes your wishes greater than theirs
Rouge: None of you were there when genosha fell
Kurt: Umm hello
To be fair she was specially referring to the X-Men who were members at the time and if I recall correctly Kurt got knocked out pretty early on and only saw the aftermath.
I don’t think people understand how much magneto actually tried to compromise with humans even before Charles”death” like he could’ve used his magnetic powers to end the world( what he’s doing now) at any given time before now like there’s no need for planets aligning or him charging up like this is how strong magneto actually is… he’s always been nice but the human pushed him and started a war that they should’ve known they could’ve never won lol magneto’s restraint is almost saint like
Wolverine: "Hm. The metal in my skeleton makes this guy a hard counter to me......I'm gonna flash my claws and try to intimidate him."
BTW, I will never get tired of the localized northern lights effect Erik indirectly produces around him by cranking up the scale of his magnetism.
Undo Genosha? Nobody knows it yet but humans didn't do that. Bastion did. Even the humans who were "in on it" like Cooper, she didn't know Bastion would do something so extreme. That's why she had a change of heart to set Magneto free...
Bastion wants this war. Its why he kept Magneto alive. So the humans and mutants would destroy each other.
He's just a Toymaker dancing with joy to the sympathy of Destruction
But he was backed by Trask and Gyrich, as well as Dr. Doom, Zemo and presumably Madame Hydra.
Bastion was created by future sentinels and those all lead back to humans like Trask and Gyrich, as well as everyone complicit in funding their operations over the years. Humans very much caused Genosha, even if it was indirectly.
@@GarthTheDestroyer OZT also had UN funding right. I remember Cap saying something like that.
@@GarthTheDestroyerAll of whom basically said "You're crazy, tf!" in their own way. Doom said he doesn't condone what happened; he only wanted contingencies.
The moment a conflict becomes “Us vs. Them,” both sides dehumanize each other and everything becomes justifiable.
All conflict is "us vs them" because that's the reality of human nature. That's literally how our brains work.
Genocide is never justifiable.
If I had to choose. I would've probably went with Magneto!. I ain't trying to be the better person to those who mean me harm
I hope this sounds as relatable as I wish it to. In my 20’s, I would have stand with Xavier. In my 30’s I am beaten down for being different. Angry and Hurt. I see myself joining Megneto. Pain does change someone.
To quote Tyra Banks from America’s Next Top Model. “I was rooting for you! We were all rooting for you! How dare you!?”
Who are you saying this too?
Charles or Magneto
@@WannabeWryter Magneto.
"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"
“LEARN SOMETHING FROM THIS”
@@samflood5631Exactly!! I was too!!!
"Magnus!"(insert darth vader theme)
>Claims to not be abandoning mutants
>proceeds to abandon all but Two mutants on a dying planet
He was going up their so he could safely permantely alter the earth magnetic field essentially getting rid of advance technology and without that mutants would basically be unstoppable. Atleast thats how I understood this episode
>While telling them his doors are open and they can join him whenever they want.
@@joelsasmad It's a pointless ultimatum. They either Join or Die with the rest of the planet.
@@flamingbow10 HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Are you stoned?
They have the asgardians, the atlanteans, the iornfistst, the hulk, they have entire pantehons of pissdd of gods demigods and ghost rider and stephen strange.
The fu\\ck is he thinking?
@@joelsasmadthat’s not a choice it’s an ultimatum
"Who dies next Professor? Jean? Been there done that." Oh Rogue, you don't know the half of it.
Will you stop blaming Charles? Have you forgot that he was dying?
2:36 I get her point but wasn’t Nightcrawler there too?
That just goes to show how blinded she is by grief and anger, she doesn’t even know what she’s doing. She doesn’t mean any harm but to only serve justice for her people.
Magneto giving that Malcolm X speech
Rogue blaming Storm for being gone is unfair. She made an incredible sacrifice for Magneto.
She was talking about genosha. Storm wasn't there to witness
Yeah they all saw from TV only Rogue, Nightcrawler and Gambit were actually there.
Name of the soundtrack?
As humans, we are both capable of being benevolent or malevolent
Magneto can only see malevolence coming from humans, so he answers with more violence against them
Professor X mainly sees the benevolence of humanity, even where there isn't and this way of thinking makes his dream only that, a dream, since obviously there are humans that won't accept the existence of mutants
Both of them are wrong, Magneto isn't different from those who attack the mutants, Professor X is delusional with his ideals and Humanity's cruelest part is unfortunately much louder than the empathic part
You just made me remember Black History, who is right Malcolm X, or Martin King.
Magneto is right, Charles is living a fantasy. There is no peacful coexistence.
@@mossgeorge2001 isn't professor X and Magneto inspired by this? Someone told me something like that
Still, my text is basically the same to that debate
Usually you have to hope that the good people's voices will became louder than the bad people
By being a pacifist, you end up being an "easy target" so the voices of the bad people increase with their violence towards you
While by being a violent, you end up being the villain even to the eyes of the good people
If I am saying bs, please tell me 😅
@@SeiVinRen Absolutely not, this is completely the point of their rivalry.
Crazy how Magneto created those Auroras on the episode released 2 days before the Aurora lit up half the world
Like my old thorfinn said: run away. Run to where the violence would never reach us.
Man, I would side with Magneto before he'd even have the chance to make the offer! I ain't about to side with people who CHOSE genocide when peace was finally within everyone's grasp!
Yeeeeeah about that, the Genosha massacre was caused by a mutant.
@@samuelsouza3054 Correction. Genosha was caused by an android. who was created by humans, and manipulated other humans into making it all possible simply simply by saying shit like "Mutants, am I right?"
@@lucariothegodboi So you're basically saying that, if a human creates a handgun and a mutant used it to kill another mutant us the human's fault? Yeah bro, you didn't even tried to make sense there.
@@samuelsouza3054 At any point, Trask could have said "No. I won't do it. I won't make a machine meant to cause genocide." But he didn't. He chose to make that accursed thing knowing it would only be used to kill everyone at Genosha. That's much different than someone making a handgun. When you make a gun, you at least have the hope that whoever buys it will only use it in self defense and as a last resort. When that three headed sentinel was made, it was made knowing it would be used for cruelty and immediately.
@@samuelsouza3054 and that goes for all of the humans. Not one of them said "enough's enough". Not one of them tried to sue for peace or say "this is going too far". The only person who did was Magneto. Magneto decided to be the better man and stopped attacking. And look what happened.
3:03 yeah I agree with him. She never loved him, she only loved her reputation
Wow Cyclops was ready to fire during Magnetos monologue.
0:33-0:44
Erik: So yeah, that’s still technically my house
The fact that Magneto was objectively right here is amazing 🔥
Charles Like Damn I should've stayed in Space!!!
The dream is dead. - Magneto
Erik's relapse to Magneto was inevitable, but it's hard not to side with him. You can't help to not blame him for how he feels. He tried it Xavier's way and embraced his path, only to have that hope taken from him again by the people who were no different than the ones that tormented him through the holocaust. He lost an X-Men (Gambit) and a child that he promised a future of no fear only to watch him die in front of him. His reasons that set him off are justified.
Very touching scene with lots of impactful dialogue.