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  • @velvetjones1856
    @velvetjones1856 3 месяца назад +75

    a lot of these small .22LR pistols are sensitive to using certain ammo.

  • @russellhorner4950
    @russellhorner4950 3 месяца назад +84

    My wife has a TX 22 and that gun is. Awesome.

    • @rang123yea5
      @rang123yea5 3 месяца назад +5

      Does it reliably shoot any ammo?

    • @Matt_Heebs
      @Matt_Heebs 3 месяца назад +8

      @@rang123yea5 yes, it is arguably the most reliable semi auto

    • @russellhorner4950
      @russellhorner4950 3 месяца назад +4

      It shoots anything except it wouldn't shoot federal champions that I bought that were factory seconds but those federal won't run in my marlin 60 either only good for my revolver and single shots so yeah it eats any thing that's not defective to begin with. But it absolutely loves CCI velociters

    • @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
      @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 3 месяца назад +6

      I have the same experience with a TX 22

    • @Matt_Heebs
      @Matt_Heebs 3 месяца назад +2

      @@russellhorner4950 I heard it also didn't like Remington's "Bucket O Bullet's" but that is low quality ammo also.

  • @markwinger53
    @markwinger53 3 месяца назад +113

    I bought one for my wife. CCI minimags and velocitors run flawlessly in this gun.

    • @glenerickson358
      @glenerickson358 3 месяца назад +7

      Blazer/CCI : 👍

    • @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
      @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 3 месяца назад +3

      I share your sentiment. A family members firearm runs with quality ammo...

    • @benthere404
      @benthere404 3 месяца назад +2

      Heavier hammer spring, weaker firing pin spring, and stiffer coil spring straightened mine right out. Polished feed ramp and chamber just for good measure, even eats Winchester white box now.

    • @kirkchartier7141
      @kirkchartier7141 3 месяца назад

      **using a 22LR for self-defense is stupid and reckless.
      **And one man said that more people were killed with a 22 LR than any other weapon, he was wrong more people are assassinated with a 22 LR.
      **But if you think of 22 LR is going to stop some meth head or psycho unless you dump like a dozen rounds in them.
      **Average hit ratio of good trained police officers are about 50% which means 50% of your ammo has a chance of hitting some innocent bystander which is not psycho and which is not meth head, or adrenaline charged or some other mitigating factor, and it does have a chance of killing them.
      **Name me one police organization that issues a 22 LR pistol for self-defense. In spite of the cost savings that that would be, and bureaucrats are all about cost saving.
      **Name me one military unit that uses it when it's gun fight time, (yes they may use the silent suppress 22 LR for a sentry removal) but when it's gunfight time it's back to the serious weapons.

    • @benthere404
      @benthere404 3 месяца назад

      @@kirkchartier7141 These guns are made for deep concealment, easy to rack, and no recoil. My mother in her early 60s can no longer rack even a 380 very well, so she carries this and practices with it often and it's fun for her. After I worked out all the kinks it's been reliable, you wouldn't want to mess with her inside 30 yards.

  • @sidekickz2180
    @sidekickz2180 3 месяца назад +43

    I manage a gun store. By far and away, the Ruger LCP II is our best-selling gun (not handgun...GUN).
    We have had ZERO complaints about them. But we DO tend to recommend decent ammo with it too

    • @charlesbowers8112
      @charlesbowers8112 Месяц назад +2

      Do you have any more of them? I can't find one to save my life!!

    • @sidekickz2180
      @sidekickz2180 Месяц назад +1

      @charlesbowers8112 we have about 5 in stock. But yeah, they have been SUPER difficult to order lately (and we look everyday, because it IS our #1 seller). Idk what's going on

  • @theonlytalkinggoat
    @theonlytalkinggoat 3 месяца назад +152

    99% sure you are using the wrong ammo. If you think it is a problem with the gun, call Ruger. They have excellent customer support.

    • @brianshuler6951
      @brianshuler6951 3 месяца назад +6

      It looks like a bare lead projectile or Winchester M22, which has a black copper plating. It may make a difference if you try high-quality copper washed or plated rounds if you're shooting lead. Then again, it may not! Every gun has it's likes and dislikes.
      If it's M22, get something else. M22 is infamous for it's unreliability.
      I have followed your gun and bible content for many years. I just now noticed that you pin the trigger after every shot. Not a big deal if you only shoot targets. It's a bad habit to have if you carry other guns defensively.
      I thank God for your improving health. Keep it up.

    • @Neaptide184
      @Neaptide184 3 месяца назад

      @@brianshuler6951worst customer support I ever have had from a firearms company was Ruger. The SP101 I bought had so many issues (non of which Ruger agreed to fix), it took me almost $300 to fix on my own; had to replace the entire trigger spring assembly (I was warped, BENT inside the housing….). Could go on, but it is still the worst quality control on any firearm I’ve ever had. Sent it back to them, they shipped it back and said they could not find the issues I had. It was my third Ruger revolver and have not bought another since.

    • @roscoeshepard
      @roscoeshepard 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@brianshuler6951what I never understood is why the 22 lr bullets have the ridges on the bullet. Those ridges hang up on the chamber on feed ramp. 22 mags have a smooth bullet.

    • @brianshuler6951
      @brianshuler6951 3 месяца назад +3

      @roscoeshepard In my experience, the vast majority of failures to feed in .22 rimfire pistols are bad magazines, dirty guns, and weak grip/limp wristing. The bullet design has been refined over the years, but it is much the same as since I first started shooting, decades ago. I'm pretty sure if the bullet design was an issue, every .22 ammo maker in the world would correct the problem.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 3 месяца назад +1

      yawn

  • @robertbiermann4666
    @robertbiermann4666 3 месяца назад +29

    Your eject pattern shows bad ammo. Good on some, others barely ejecting. Watch your eject pattern on this video. Try agula or cci.

    • @markhittell8030
      @markhittell8030 3 месяца назад +4

      Go with cci... I've been having problems with aguila 22lr primers not igniting in all my 22lr revolvers. After a lot of research I'm switching to cci🤔

    • @trenton6621
      @trenton6621 2 месяца назад

      This gun is mostly using the blowback to eject the case. Sometimes they eject weird

  • @markrash6763
    @markrash6763 3 месяца назад +39

    My first thought is try changing ammo? I have a Phoenix arms .22 that can tell cci from anything else.

    • @coyote520
      @coyote520 3 месяца назад +3

      I have one of those little 22lrs as well, and I have noticed that it occasionally has light strikes regardless of ammo. It's a neat little, strange gun, and it's amusing, but I would never carry it for self defense.

    • @robertscotti7970
      @robertscotti7970 3 месяца назад +2

      I had 1 many years ago with both barrels .
      It started getting quirky so i sent it back.
      The repaced the whole original barrel.
      It worked reliably again but because of the bad experiances prior i never carried it.
      Was only a range /plinker .
      I eventually traded it in.
      No trust in it in my mind.
      It had to go

    • @markrash6763
      @markrash6763 3 месяца назад

      I agree totally!

    • @JohnWaldron-cm7ce
      @JohnWaldron-cm7ce 3 месяца назад +1

      The HP-22 is a great inexpensive pistol. However, there's a reason that Phoenix recommends shooting standard velocity over any high velocity .22 ammo. Any hot .22 has a tendency to crack the Zamac receiver. I called Phoenix and the production foreman explained that to me. There's also a correct and incorrect way to mount the recoil spring-John in Texas

    • @spyrus_4359
      @spyrus_4359 3 месяца назад

      I have one of those that shoots almost everything. I have the Walther that for some reason prefers Winchester. My ISSC and Sig both prefer CCI, and are OK with Federal. Remington is a no-go in all.

  • @davidkachel
    @davidkachel 3 месяца назад +67

    The "locked" part of "cocked and locked" MEANS... the manual safety is turned on. If the gun has no manual safety, it cannot be carried, "cocked and locked"!

    • @wymonwatson1309
      @wymonwatson1309 3 месяца назад

      My glock says your full of 💩

    • @lewis9888
      @lewis9888 3 месяца назад

      Without a manual safety it will be cocked and bang.

    • @rodneymoore7270
      @rodneymoore7270 3 месяца назад +2

      trigger covered holster ...

    • @davidkachel
      @davidkachel 3 месяца назад +9

      @@rodneymoore7270 The type of holster has nothing to do with it.

    • @Thomastank2023
      @Thomastank2023 3 месяца назад +9

      @@rodneymoore7270 Yeah he isn't saying it is unsafe or whatever. He is just saying literally without a manual safety (especially a thumb safety that fits into a notch on the slide and literally "locks" the gun) you can't carry cocked and locked. You are just carrying cocked.

  • @garethsmith6341
    @garethsmith6341 3 месяца назад +18

    I bought 4 of those at the same time for my defense classes and all of them have run flawlessly since the day I bought them, Ruger makes superior Firearms ❤

    • @Jack-xy2pz
      @Jack-xy2pz 3 месяца назад +3

      Minimum caliber on ccw permit in my area is .380 auto.. 🤪

  • @brianminkc
    @brianminkc 3 месяца назад +13

    You can't carry "cocked and locked" with no safety . The safety is the "locked" part with no safety you must carry a gun in a holster if you have a round in the chamber

  • @gregb6469
    @gregb6469 3 месяца назад +10

    Any .22LR semi-auto is iffy, being a rimfire cartridge.

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 3 месяца назад +72

    I've been through enough rimfire pistols that I'll never trust my life to it.

    • @robertscotti7970
      @robertscotti7970 3 месяца назад +7

      Only rimfire id trust is a revolver(22mag) for cc

    • @robertcwalkeriii6267
      @robertcwalkeriii6267 3 месяца назад

      Ya! Me too.
      Robert

    • @nolagospeltracts8264
      @nolagospeltracts8264 3 месяца назад +3

      @@robertscotti7970 should have specified semi-auto.

    • @tylerleavitt2715
      @tylerleavitt2715 3 месяца назад +2

      100% top comment you may save someone who thinks this is going to work in a gunfight. Nah

    • @jaydee5156
      @jaydee5156 3 месяца назад +3

      @@robertscotti7970 I own dozens of revolvers and semi-auto handguns in .22 and .22WMR. I don't recall ever having a malfunction with .22WMR, but failures with .22LR are just as frequent whether revolver or semi-auto. I will say that my .22LR rifles rarely experience failures, which I attribute to larger and stronger springs.

  • @sidekickz2180
    @sidekickz2180 3 месяца назад +12

    Use copper-jacketed ammo when firing a semi-auto .22lr gun. You'll still get malfunctions, but far less

    • @drcovell
      @drcovell 2 месяца назад

      I had similar problems with feed in a tiny pocket gun that i bought for my elderly mother. I took emery paper to the barrel and slide, added oil, and use Mini-mags. No more feed problems.

  • @kilby714
    @kilby714 3 месяца назад +9

    I can't speak to the LCPII, but I own an SR9c, an LC9s, a MAX-9 and an AR-556. Never had a problem with any of them. They eat any kind of ammo I feed through them with no problem.

  • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
    @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 3 месяца назад +130

    Using trash ammo and complaining about a 22lr pocket handgun not running properly is pretty comical. Use some minimags or some other high quality defense ammo and see how it runs. 22lr handguns are notoriously finicky and only tend to work well with particularly high quality, high velocity ammo. Yes, some 22lr handguns are less finicky, like my tx22 which is full size and will eat almost anything, but that's the exception and not the rule. After running about 200 rounds of CCI minimags or something similar, you'll have a much better understanding of whether it's the gun or ammo that's the main problem.

    • @busymountain
      @busymountain 3 месяца назад +7

      Exactly right about ammo and the TX22

    • @brighter22
      @brighter22 3 месяца назад +6

      I had the same issues with lcp ii in .22 and tried multiple different mags and various brands of high quality ammo with same feed issues.

    • @bradleyboots687
      @bradleyboots687 3 месяца назад

      Rugers were very well known fore eating up anything you put in them. Now they sell junk.

    • @timburton9514
      @timburton9514 3 месяца назад +10

      My Ruger MK1 and Smith and Wesson Victory are both like fat kids. They’ll eat whatever you feed em!!

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 3 месяца назад +1

      @timburton9514 yea, those are larger frame guns too, which typically aren't as finicky as mouse guns.

  • @alegroman4294
    @alegroman4294 3 месяца назад +7

    Possible ammo related? I know in general 22LR guns are ammo finicky. I’ve a Ruger 10/22 it only likes certain ammo. Try CCI mini-mag or Stinger. Also, could be magazine related?

  • @rexhorning7228
    @rexhorning7228 3 месяца назад +34

    Ruger has a lifetime warranty. They will make it right.
    With some of the other Rugers I have had they got better as they broke in.

    • @rickytaylor5076
      @rickytaylor5076 3 месяца назад +4

      No, Ruger does not have a lifetime warranty. Per Ruger : Unfortunately, the law in this area is complicated and varies widely. Rather than provide a written "lifetime warranty" followed by a lengthy disclaimer (which is what many manufacturers do), Ruger has elected not to provide a written warranty.
      Regardless, we sincerely value our customers and work hard to treat them fairly. If you have a problem with your Ruger® firearm, reach out to our excellent customer service representatives and I believe you will be very pleased with the result. If not, let me know.

    • @richbutler7828
      @richbutler7828 3 месяца назад +2

      There is none better than the older Ruger Firearms. the newer stuff not so much. pretty much the same as all U.S. makers now. The quality has just gone out the window.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 3 месяца назад

      To bad Ruger is famous for that warranty... 🙄

  • @iglouch9818
    @iglouch9818 3 месяца назад +6

    Main spring maybe? And polish feed ramp.

  • @jeffday2574
    @jeffday2574 3 месяца назад +5

    I agree with most folks change ammo. I run cci to start with until the gun breaks in. It's a little hotter I think. Then go to bargain stuff after a few hundred rounds.

  • @edgarnewberry-cw4ld
    @edgarnewberry-cw4ld 3 месяца назад +4

    Its short stroking due to the fact it's new and tight, and your using standard ammo. Break it in with performance (hot) ammo. After 2 or 300 rds it will shoot anything. Did you clean it and oil it before you fired it?

  • @emmanuelgoldstein4371
    @emmanuelgoldstein4371 3 месяца назад +9

    Let me change your mind....
    My worst .22lr pistol is a Walther P22. I bought one for me and one for my daughter many years ago.
    My daughter's pistol had just about every possible malfunction you could think of and some that are pretty rare:
    Failure to feed.
    Failure to extract.
    The magazine dropping out upon firing the gun (yes, it was fully seated).
    Upon firing the safety would move out of the fire position.
    It was sent back for repair three times.
    S&W changed some parts out the first time and blamed the ammunition suggesting that we use CCI ammo.
    The second time they change some more parts out (by the third time about the only parts the hadn't change out was the frame , slide, and barrel.
    The third time I sent the gun in along with a spread sheet where I had fired about 8 different brands of ammunition.
    I labeled the rows on the spread sheet 1-50 and indicated the malfunction on each row.
    Every brand of ammunition resulted in multiple malfunctions per 50 rounds fired.

    • @steelgila
      @steelgila 3 месяца назад +2

      Lord that almost sounds like a feat of modern engineering. A gun designed not to function properly in any prescribed way '?'

    • @emmanuelgoldstein4371
      @emmanuelgoldstein4371 3 месяца назад

      @@steelgila I agree, especially .22lr.
      I find that hollow point ammunition and 40gr round nose lead ammunition are the most common to have failures to feed. Also watch out for old lead .22lr ammunition as sometimes lead oxide will form on the bullet making it difficult to feed into the chamber.
      But the problems that we had with the Walther P22 were design problems. For example, the magazines that came with the early Walthers had "ears" on the magazines that engaged with the magazine catch. But these ears were too small on the early magazines. There was just not enough "meat" on the ears to engage the magazine catch and the magazines would drop upon recoil. The magazine would often have to be reseated and the slide racked to chamber a round.
      The safety would sometimes move from the "fire" position to a position between fire and safe.

    • @ClarenceCochran-ne7du
      @ClarenceCochran-ne7du 3 месяца назад +2

      I've had the opposite experience with both P-22s I own. One regular, one target version. Feeds CCI, Remington, Winchester and Aquila without flaw, and both are Walther, not S&W production guns, which I suspect is why you had problems. I purchased the regular in 2013 and the target in 2014. I've rarely had any FTF or FTE with either gun. I prefer the target for its accuracy and have used it in our local competitions, and placed well enough in ranking.
      Is it as accurate as my early 1930s High Standard Model B? No, but my Model B is very Ammo Sensitive, and in my neck of the woods, Standard Velocity .22 LR is hard to come by. It does not perform well with High Velocity .22 LR at all, consistently failing to return to battery.
      Like I mentioned, I suspect your problems may have been due to "Who" was producing the pistol. That S&Ws Walther production/distribution was marred by production and quality control issues even worse than the later stages of Interarms US production. Main reason Walther actually built a US Production Facility was S&Ws hit & miss reputation.
      If you get a chance to shoot the US Walther production gun, I'd encourage you to try it. I strongly believe there's a Night and Day difference between the guns.
      My only real complaint, is the Target version, is a pain in the butt to clean. 😮

    • @pulpheroaudio8709
      @pulpheroaudio8709 3 месяца назад +1

      I had the same problem with a Walther CCP M2 in 9mm. What I later discovered is not every gun that says “Walther” is a true Walther. The ones made in Cologne, Germany as opposed to the ones made in Ulm, Germany or Walther USA in Fort Smith, Arkansas, are made by Walther’s parent company Umarex which is known for their air soft guns. They just slap the Walther name on some of their guns like the P22 and CCP because they can. The REAL Walthers (PDP, PPQ, P99, PPS, PPK in .380) are great.

    • @blatherskite9601
      @blatherskite9601 2 месяца назад

      I have a Walther-made Walther P22 - even with cheap sh!t ammunition, never failed to load, fire and eject. Nothing has fallen off, and it came with a suppressor that's pretty good, too. Excellent little gun, so it is.

  • @gnosticnight
    @gnosticnight 3 месяца назад +52

    Remember why Browning invented the .25 ACP.

    • @Joe-ie8vk
      @Joe-ie8vk 3 месяца назад +6

      Seriously why are there not more guns in 25? It’s center fired so the reliability is going to be better I have heard they can be a bit under powered and won’t wrack the slide properly but it’s gotta be better then a rim fire and they are some pretty small guns. That always made me wonder it’s gotta be more reliable then 22 it’s gotta have slightly better ballistics?

    • @snotshovelinfection305
      @snotshovelinfection305 3 месяца назад +4

      Colt developed the .25 ACP it's in the name Automatic Colt Pistol

    • @TheWilferch
      @TheWilferch 3 месяца назад

      @@Joe-ie8vk ...the problem HE was having HERE....was in no way related to the primer efficiency of 22LR. Something is wrong with his gun or mag, not the caliber/or being rimfire. I have quite a few 22LR handguns I would trust with my life with as to reliability......

    • @bmboytx7082
      @bmboytx7082 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@snotshovelinfection305He might have been referring to John Moses Browning.

    • @lewis9888
      @lewis9888 3 месяца назад +2

      I bought a new 8:01 H&R nine shot revolver in 22lr decades ago at an auction for $50. Best deal I ever made. Speed loaders were made for it and I bought several. I have the Beretta 25ACP that my father bought in Italy in the early 50's when he was in the USN. I have bought extra magazines for it. Keep Prepping my friends.

  • @thechiefsway2618
    @thechiefsway2618 3 месяца назад +6

    I have a Jimenez Arms JA22. When it was new it would barley shoot. But after approx. 500 rounds and polishing the feed ramp it won't stop working now. I think break-in for 22LR pistols is a real thing. With real variations per round the gun has to be as smooth and easy ti cycle as possible. Break-in smooths it out.

    • @spyrus_4359
      @spyrus_4359 3 месяца назад +1

      I have one of those, and consider it a paper weight. Mistake that I can't sell because I'd feel like a scammer.

  • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
    @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 3 месяца назад +2

    Ruger LCP II and LCP Max 75th Anniversary model both in 380 have utter and complete garbage POA POI... 😆

  • @JonTheGiantChicken
    @JonTheGiantChicken 3 месяца назад +12

    I have a Ruger LCP Max. I thought it would be a perfect pocket gun and it does carry well. But it is one of the most unreliable guns I have ever owned.

    • @PorfirioCastro
      @PorfirioCastro 3 месяца назад +5

      I had the same experience but sent it back to Ruger and they replaced the extractor and barrel on mine and ran 30 through it without issue. I will be trying this again because with 10 rounds it would be the perfect pocket pistol if it works reliably.

    • @JonTheGiantChicken
      @JonTheGiantChicken 3 месяца назад +2

      @PorfirioCastro I have been wondering if I need to do the same. Because regardless of cleaning and changing ammunition brands, it still hangs up.

    • @miker9043
      @miker9043 3 месяца назад +3

      Had mine a year or so with no malfunctions , i only run high end hollow points , havent tried fmj . ive run about 300 rounds so far , ruger will repair or replace if its defective .

    • @rang123yea5
      @rang123yea5 3 месяца назад +1

      Mines flawlessly reliable. The problem for me is quickly squeezing my finger inside the trigger guard.

    • @alananderson5929
      @alananderson5929 3 месяца назад +1

      Ditto here. Switched to Kimber micro series and zero malfunctions after 5K+ rounds thru it. Check them out SF🇺🇸

  • @bambamthecamocowboy9037
    @bambamthecamocowboy9037 3 месяца назад +2

    🤔Spider Web On Your Hat🤪
    22lr in Semi-Auto Its Usally A Hit & Miss When It Comes To Jamming!

  • @tompuckett9937
    @tompuckett9937 3 месяца назад +3

    What kind of rotgut ammo are you shooting????

  • @pingislife2653
    @pingislife2653 3 месяца назад +7

    Maybe it comes down to ammo differences or luck in manufacturing, but I've had nothing but fun and good experiences with my friend's same model.

  • @ed5042
    @ed5042 3 месяца назад +3

    gotta say, you look So much better, congrats!

  • @Subtlenimbus
    @Subtlenimbus 47 минут назад

    Mine does the same thing. It locks back with rounds still in the mag. It does it with anything stronger than standard velocity like velocitors or Aguila interceptors. I actually removed the slide stop and ran it like that for a while. It was flawless, but of course wouldn’t lock open on empty.

  • @elihu217qd5150
    @elihu217qd5150 3 месяца назад +3

    I’ve had overall bad luck with my LCP as well. Same one that you have. I even paid and had the springs, etc. upgraded as that was recommended as a fix. It didn’t really do much. It is very picky with ammunition as well.

  • @lyonellewis4499
    @lyonellewis4499 3 месяца назад +2

    Bro your slipping it's the ammo

  • @user-JamesLacy
    @user-JamesLacy 3 месяца назад +5

    I'm with you on the manual safety. I will not buy a gun with out one.

  • @chadgronsten9023
    @chadgronsten9023 3 месяца назад +3

    My sister in law had the same problems with hers. We shot lots of different ammo even some CCI stingers. A good gun to stay away from.

    • @jeffreyberkey8371
      @jeffreyberkey8371 3 месяца назад

      I have one and they don’t like the steel casing Cci mini mag or Cci velocities seems to work very well

  • @mybuickskill6979
    @mybuickskill6979 3 месяца назад +19

    22lr is not dependable enough to be a gun I'd be putting my life on. I know when it's working it'll put a thing down. But that's the problem. It's gotta run. And it's not even through the break in time 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @xxxlonewolf49
      @xxxlonewolf49 3 месяца назад +2

      It's also not enough gun. It's better than a rock, but 22lr is NOT a wise defensive choice.

    • @mybuickskill6979
      @mybuickskill6979 3 месяца назад

      @@xxxlonewolf49 yup. I carry my little 380 frequently. But never in my life would I be caught with a 22 lr in my holster. It's not happening. 🤷🏼‍♂️ IDC if it's mini mouse gun sized lol

    • @xxxlonewolf49
      @xxxlonewolf49 3 месяца назад +2

      @mybuickskill6979 I did carry one 22, when jogging, when i had nothing else...till I got a pocket 9.
      380 isn't enough of a round, costs too much vs 9, the pistols are effectively the same size & weight, and 9 Is just better effects on target.

    • @mybuickskill6979
      @mybuickskill6979 3 месяца назад

      @@xxxlonewolf49 I wear my 380 bicycling. It's tiny, single stack. More aero, and it pokes holes. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣🤣 And as of yet. Not a single issue with reliability. That's really all I need. I mostly worry about two legged varmints, as the four legged ones are slower than my bike 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣🤣

    • @xxxlonewolf49
      @xxxlonewolf49 3 месяца назад

      @@mybuickskill6979 It's better than a 22lr or a rock, but a 9mm is objectively a better round & system

  • @AmericanMexicanGunslinger
    @AmericanMexicanGunslinger 3 месяца назад +1

    It might be finicky with certain ammo. it might want that hot
    Stuff like cci stingers, mini mag, and federal punch. Or you can polish the feed ramps it does sound mess up that both pistols are not feeding properly

  • @tomgoodwin9161
    @tomgoodwin9161 3 месяца назад +7

    My Kimber "Night Patrol" is a worse lemon than that one. Won't feed hardball right out of the box.Kimber won't even answer letters.

  • @jonathanday2242
    @jonathanday2242 3 месяца назад +1

    Get some CCI minimags,I wouldn't run Remington thunderduds in my LCP2,not only are they dirty the loads are inconsistent.Mine has been flawless with Minimags and Velocitors.Love mine.Clean it good and try the CCI's,you might be pleasantly surprised.Good luck brother

  • @anarchistdan
    @anarchistdan 3 месяца назад +21

    22 lr is great in riffles no way would i rely on a 22 pistol

    • @johnwalters1055
      @johnwalters1055 3 месяца назад +1

      A revolver in a pinch but I've never had a semi auto that didn't need certain ammo

    • @yourmomma2995
      @yourmomma2995 3 месяца назад

      @@johnwalters1055 try a p17 it will be your new favorite, guaranteed. you wont want to carry anything else.

  • @masterk5066
    @masterk5066 2 месяца назад +1

    Yet another reason to stay away from 22 semis 😂. I don’t wanna have a gun picky af with ammo I wanna just buy whatever I want & run it an unreliable gun like a lot of 22’s I don’t wanna deal with. The 9mm versions are cool though, all the baby rugers ec9 lc9 max’s

  • @bradleyboots687
    @bradleyboots687 3 месяца назад +7

    Bill Ruger would have never let that happen.

    • @Hambond477
      @Hambond477 3 месяца назад

      I've known 22 type firearms that were fussy about ammo brands., It's only fair to test various brands of ammo.

    • @richbutler7828
      @richbutler7828 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, But Those Days Are Over! My old 185 Series Mini 14 has Never failed in any way. Most of the newer Mini's that are said to be better are always on there way back to Ruger for some kind of repair. A good gun is the one that works!

    • @johnelder4273
      @johnelder4273 3 месяца назад +1

      Bill Ruger was a massive Fudd. Ruger innovation was completely stifled until Bill passed. Subsequently, Ruget has been much more innovative and completely changed the concealed carry market with the LCP and the LCR. You can argue that the LCP was a copy of the Keltec but Ruger made the darm things correctly and dependable and at only 10.5 ounces that was something. The LCR completely re-imagined the J-frame and the trigger is so light and smooth it's like a Custom Shop S&W trigger. Bill was NOT a friend of the 2A. Let's not forget all his shortcommings and only remember the good, like the single action Rugers and the old Security Six, etc... Bill was a mixed bag at best.

    • @bradleyboots687
      @bradleyboots687 3 месяца назад

      Gun industry inovation in the 21st centurty = another variation of a glock.

  • @andrewmunchkin7212
    @andrewmunchkin7212 3 месяца назад +1

    Lcp2 is my best pocket pistol. Either you are not using lube on the slide, or you're using an ammo that wont rack the slide.

  • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
    @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 3 месяца назад +3

    What kind of ammo were you using?

  • @victorgreen9009
    @victorgreen9009 3 месяца назад +1

    Try a lighter recoil spring. Plus on your first 3 mags, I could hear different reports, like some of your rounds were loaded hotter than others. For consistent hard hitting accuracy, I use Winchester. If I stepped up to running hot CCI rounds, I'd always have to adjust my zero. You could put a sharper edge on your extractor. Some newer ones hardly have a feed ramp at all. But if you play your video back; listen to the different sounds each bullet makes as it leaves the barrel. Sound sounded very muffled like a blank. God bless you.

  • @schiltronmunitions3820
    @schiltronmunitions3820 3 месяца назад +26

    Never trust your life to a rimfire. EVER. They run dirty and aren't reliable enough.

    • @rjdavis7503
      @rjdavis7503 3 месяца назад +2

      Good point. However, revolver will run every time.

    •  3 месяца назад +2

      There is one brand of rimfire that I have never had failure to fire in thousands of rounds. CCI is one of the best! Stingers, Mini Mag and Velociters have been totally reliable.

    • @onionhead5780
      @onionhead5780 3 месяца назад +1

      I won’t say you’re wrong because I’d most likely never carry a 22 also but have you ever heard the saying, a 22 in your pocket is better than a 45 on your nightstand. 😉

    • @schiltronmunitions3820
      @schiltronmunitions3820 3 месяца назад

      @onionhead5780 Yep. But with the very low cost of modern carry pistols, there's no reason to use a rimfire unless it's a training version of your primary for low-cost practice. The cost difference between the .380 and .22 LR versions of the Ruger LCP is about 20 bucks. I know recoil is an issue for some folks with arthritis, but reliability with today's .22 with quality control oversight being cut is likely to just get get you killed.

    • @jamesvanderpas7074
      @jamesvanderpas7074 3 месяца назад

      If a gun won’t cycle reliably on CCI Std Velocity, I wouldn’t carry it at all for defense. That’s not to say higher velocity loads don’t add reliability. But the true test is reliable cycling on 22LR Std velocity loads.

  • @rodscrivner7132
    @rodscrivner7132 3 месяца назад +1

    Worst gun review ever..I would expect something like this from a newbie, but wow..More painful to listen to that watch...

  • @okcfirearmstraining3763
    @okcfirearmstraining3763 3 месяца назад +11

    This is why I don't look to GFG for gun reviews. The gun jams with crap ammo using only one magazine... so Ruger owes you an apology?!
    Mine works great, but I don't feed it crap ammo. You said you carried an LCP II .22 for your CCW and only after carrying it for weeks or months, you fired it for the first time? That's not what a serious pistolero does at all. All you've proven this time is that it doesn't like crap ammo or maybe not that particular magazine... but you didn't ferret out the issue, so you blame the gun.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 3 месяца назад +1

      Unfortunately people look to all the shills for gun reviews and all they get is a gun advertisement...

    • @mrjackolanterns
      @mrjackolanterns 3 месяца назад +2

      Exactly. I agree 100 percent. Also hate how he click baits every month with: "This is the most returned gun in gun shops now!" Or " This is the most sought after gun in gun shops now!" and then proceeds his hardest to coax the woman into filling his agenda. Very annoying. No need for that trash.

  • @theroguetomato5362
    @theroguetomato5362 3 месяца назад +2

    My P365 did that the first shots. I oiled it and it hasn't done it since.

  • @4ager505
    @4ager505 3 месяца назад +8

    Is it just me...or is it painful to watch the extreme amount of movement required for trigger reset ? 22 LR for self defense? I guess it is OK if you don't value your life very highly.

  • @Thomas-y1p9j
    @Thomas-y1p9j 3 месяца назад +1

    The River pistols are sensitive about ammo! Try polishing the feed ramp! My wife has a SR 22lr same problem! GreT pocket pistol!

  • @tlgeorge59
    @tlgeorge59 3 месяца назад +7

    Brother, you might want to try several different brands of ammunition to see if one works reliably consistently.

  • @RICH21716
    @RICH21716 3 месяца назад +1

    22 LR is a rimmed cartridge, the rounds need to be loaded in the magazine a certain way to avoid "rim lock". As you load you need to ensure the rim of the top bullet is in front of the rim.of the bullet under it so the rim.of the top round being stripped off the magazine doesn't catch on the round under it. Repeat this for the entire magazine. There are a lot of internet articles that illustrate the proper loading to avoid rim lock better than I can explain here. Good luck.

  • @russellhorner4950
    @russellhorner4950 3 месяца назад +10

    If you run CCI I would bet that problem goes way down in occurrence.

    • @blackberryflash6893
      @blackberryflash6893 3 месяца назад

      Not for me. My LCP2 .22 just does not like most .22 ammo. I have tried a lot of different fixes without much headway.

  • @davidkolb1942
    @davidkolb1942 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder what kind of ammo are you using??? You can hear the difference from one round to the next. Quality control of that ammo seems kind of questionable.

  • @alananderson5929
    @alananderson5929 3 месяца назад +8

    Change your ammo, Mark. Every shooter knows thats the first thing to consider. You’re looking much more fit lately, congrats SF🇺🇸.

  • @danmeek928
    @danmeek928 2 месяца назад +2

    My father taught me young, quality, not quantity. I have never had a 22 misfire never.

  • @philliphill4763
    @philliphill4763 3 месяца назад +4

    It's been my experience, that RUGER builds excellent JAMOMATICS! Service Department friendly enough, but without results!! Ya throws yo' money down, and ya takes yer chancez!😂😂😂😅😅

  • @billjensen6216
    @billjensen6216 3 месяца назад +1

    I had a 9mm lccp, and it was a piece of crap. Same exact problem as yours. I sold it back at a loss. It didn't mater what ammo I shot out of it. Cheap or high dollar rounds.

  • @MrArob826
    @MrArob826 3 месяца назад +7

    Mark, what I am thinking is, it could be the lips on your mag. I have a Hi-Point .380 and it did the same thing, until I polished the feed ramp and took some needle nose pliers and gently opened the lips on the magazine. Just a thought

  • @johnwalters1055
    @johnwalters1055 3 месяца назад +1

    My experience with 22 hand gun̈s. Ruger and other is you have to use cci type ammo all fail a lot with rifle rim fire ammo.

  • @xxxlonewolf49
    @xxxlonewolf49 3 месяца назад +7

    22lr is NOT a good defensive round, period.

    • @tlgeorge59
      @tlgeorge59 3 месяца назад +2

      Better than a very small rock! lol

    • @xxxlonewolf49
      @xxxlonewolf49 3 месяца назад

      @@tlgeorge59 when it jams, it IS a rock

    • @PrestonRush-my2nx
      @PrestonRush-my2nx 3 месяца назад

      For .22 not to be a good defense load? Look up the history. It was developed specifically for self defense.

    • @frankmosses9121
      @frankmosses9121 3 месяца назад +1

      My friend was murdered with a freedoms arms 4 shot mini revolver in 22 so yes it will do the job

    • @busymountain
      @busymountain 3 месяца назад

      ​@PrestonRush-my2nx yes it does just fine 👍

  • @earldelsanto
    @earldelsanto 3 месяца назад +1

    My lcp 380 max has never failed....ever. it axurate for a delf defense deep carry. With 12 round mags i feel more than safe

  • @donh4750
    @donh4750 3 месяца назад +4

    That's about the size of an glock 26. I've never had a problem with my glock 26

    • @billenglish2804
      @billenglish2804 3 месяца назад

      I have the Glock 26 and a Ruger LCPII (.380). They are nowhere near the same size. The LCP line are pocket pistols while the G26 is a sub-compact best used for IWB or OWB.

  • @russellhorner4950
    @russellhorner4950 3 месяца назад +2

    Try some good stuff like CCI stinger or velocitor

  • @martinblevins9442
    @martinblevins9442 3 месяца назад +4

    Is your thumb hitting the slide stop?

  • @miker15677
    @miker15677 3 месяца назад +2

    I use cci mini mags only and no problems. It almost seems like the rims are catching on the round below it.

  • @marklacher3413
    @marklacher3413 3 месяца назад +3

    Properly clean and lube and polish the feed ramp. Then try some good ammo like cci mini mags or federal punch. In my experience Remington thunderbolts are crap. I would personally never trust my life to a semi auto 22 lr.

  • @earldelsanto
    @earldelsanto 3 месяца назад +1

    Lcp2 in 22 ....enough said. Of course that one is a pos.

  • @jmmartin7766
    @jmmartin7766 3 месяца назад +3

    I used to own a Bobcat in .22 that liked to jam with certain ammo. I figured then that if Beretta (the oldest gun maker in the world) couldn't put out an utterly reliable semi auto in .22, nobody could. And so far, my theory is proving sound

  • @daveshrewsbury8872
    @daveshrewsbury8872 3 месяца назад +1

    Remington thunder bolts are not what you want, try CCI mini mags, bet they run 100 %,

  • @grabbabitewelfed1641
    @grabbabitewelfed1641 3 месяца назад +1

    Try polishing the feed ramp on the barrel, i doubt its the ammo, the feed ramp could be a little rough👍🙏

  • @Ray-vq2jc
    @Ray-vq2jc 3 месяца назад +2

    22 long rifle was originally made for 22lr rifles not pistols and certainly not micro pistols. The only pistol in 22lr that I owned was the Ruger Mark series that was reliable that was all steel with bull barrel.

  • @pedrobossio5440
    @pedrobossio5440 3 месяца назад +1

    Try CCI Mini-Mags 40gr or CCI Velocitors, it'll work.

  • @joewest2560
    @joewest2560 3 месяца назад +1

    I have many handguns, the bodyguard WAS one of them. Heavy trigger, low capacity, weighs more than better choices. Funny you like it. The LCP max is the best imo. Now, why oh why would you even consider a 22, let alone in a semi-auto. A total waste of time. You are going out of your way looking for an under powered, rim fired gun far more likely to offer you trouble. Even if it ran perfectly, the cartridge itself is less reliable. Unless you need one of every gun in your collection, just dump it. What's the point, you aren't recoil sensitive... so why?

  • @5thPlaceAce
    @5thPlaceAce 3 месяца назад +2

    I could be an issue with the magazine followers and springs. I would suggest you take them apart and spray some silicone dry lube on everything before reassembling. Do not use regular gun oil. That can make it worse

  • @markhamilton2411
    @markhamilton2411 Месяц назад +1

    "These guns" and you show one? Plus you spend 20 minutes on one gun. You don't value the time of the people who watch your videos. You RAMBLE too much. Watch this with a critical eye and you'll be embarrassed.

    • @kylefreemason
      @kylefreemason Месяц назад

      He talk alot but if that isn’t your thing, tune away. These guns are junk.

  • @robertwittjr1198
    @robertwittjr1198 3 месяца назад +2

    bougt my first hand gun at a gun show in 1985 for $40.00 and it's a ruger standard model from 1960.
    it still runs perfect, ALWAYS, with CCI minimag ammo. second choice is winchester super-x, then remington thunderbolt.

  • @drcovell
    @drcovell 2 месяца назад +1

    I had a Colt Mustang .380. Never could it to feed right, do I traded it to a local gunsmith as half of the cost of a Sphinx .380. (Disclaimer, this is used in Europe as a backup for several police forces; but, it’s cut from a block of Stainless Steel, can hold 12 rounds, so it’s *much* heavier than an average .380.
    *That* one never fails or misfeeds unless the ammo is really old.
    For pocket-carry I have a S&W .357 “Chief Special,” with a Scandium frame and Titanium cylinder. Just 5 shots, but it weighs so little I need to check my pockets before I leave home.
    (Absolutely DON’T want that to fall out of my pocket when I reach for my keys at the local Safeway here in CA!) 😂😂
    PS If you fire.357 rounds through this it REALLY stings! 😖😖😖

  • @kevingriffin8854
    @kevingriffin8854 3 месяца назад +1

    Haven't watched you in a long time, looks like you lost a little weight.

  • @hillwilliam
    @hillwilliam 3 месяца назад +1

    I have three guns that I regret purchasing. S&W Bodyguard 380 and Citadel 12ga may cycle and may not. Totally unreliable. The third is a Glock 22, gen4. My only 40 and not fun to shoot. Very interesting video. Keep them coming.

  • @ronnieduncan1152
    @ronnieduncan1152 3 месяца назад +1

    Try polishing the feed ramp and see what happens I do all my semi autos never hurts

  • @ammohoarder
    @ammohoarder 3 месяца назад +2

    That 2nd failure to feed was ammo related. Very apparent. Weak powder load.

  • @ludwigwitner6854
    @ludwigwitner6854 3 месяца назад +1

    most 22 auto pistols are ammo picky. Try CCI

  • @randyyoung7979
    @randyyoung7979 3 месяца назад +1

    First off; small .22 LR semi-autos often have feeding problems. But but the video, this is definitely ammo related.

  • @sumyunguy777
    @sumyunguy777 3 месяца назад +1

    Mark, you are looking good and healthy. Love your videos.

  • @lestercoons3962
    @lestercoons3962 3 месяца назад +2

    I have an LCP in .380 auto and I have never had a problem. (Not a LCP 2!)

  • @64samsky
    @64samsky 3 месяца назад +1

    I have Rugers MarkII, SR22 , some of the older revolvers, and 10-22. I have no problems with good ammo.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 3 месяца назад

      The quality of everything is diminished... Food companies use shrink-flation... and other companies just produce a lower quality product and charge more... I just had to buy a new lawn mower... went with another Troy-Bilt... Eight years ago I got a 22 inch deck with a 160cc Honda engine for $350 and yesterday I bought a new one and now it's a 21 inch deck with a 163cc Briggs and Stratton engine for $460... and generally the all around construction is inferior, such as all the plastic is thinner and the clippings bag is sad quality...
      Companies will only be able to continue this for so long until the value of the dollar is garbage... 🤷‍♂️

  • @Tonyhodges33
    @Tonyhodges33 3 месяца назад +2

    I own three lcps in 380 and they've been flawless. And they are not locked and cocked, they are halfcocked and any pocket pistol should be in a pocket holster.

  • @billenglish2804
    @billenglish2804 3 месяца назад +1

    I have put hundreds of rounds through my Ruger LCPII in .380 without feeding problem, even using cheap Norma FMJ & defense ammo.
    The accuracy sucks but pocket pistols are designed for close-up self-defense (

  • @Todd-e4u
    @Todd-e4u 3 месяца назад +1

    If want a rimfire semi-auto pistol that is reliable and accurate, try Taurus 22tx. It is also low cost and takes any ammo. I really want to hate it, but it consistently exceeds expectations.

    • @TucoDog-ho6fw
      @TucoDog-ho6fw 3 месяца назад

      I’ve been wanting a semi auto 22 pistol ever since my old woodsman was stolen. I’ve decided on the TX. Like you said, From everything I’ve heard and read, they seem to operate great with any ammo. That’s the most important thing with a 22 semi auto.

  • @AnthonyLutz-t9q
    @AnthonyLutz-t9q 3 месяца назад +2

    LCP max is not accurate. I wouldnt bet my life with this piece of junk. Magazines are not the problem. Its the poor workmanship. Ive sent mine back three times for three separate issues. Ive since sold this pistol. Live and learn.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 3 месяца назад

      Yep anyone who claims theirs is hitting POA POI at 5 or 7 yards is at best case not very observant... at best. They ALL are complete garbage... I will say though perhaps and just perhaps maybe someone is literally hitting the lottery if theirs is accurate... 🤷‍♂️

    • @keithtate1241
      @keithtate1241 3 месяца назад

      My LCP Max has been very accurate. Maybe not quite as accurate as my GX4 but still quite acceptable.

  • @Clark8435
    @Clark8435 3 месяца назад +1

    Thunderbolt is very dirty running ammo. CCI is the way to go.

  • @earldelsanto
    @earldelsanto 3 месяца назад +1

    So you been shooting about 2 weeks now right.

  • @XrayMike17plus1
    @XrayMike17plus1 3 месяца назад +2

    Rimmed cartridges stacked in a magazine is asking for trouble

  • @franciskowalsky7574
    @franciskowalsky7574 3 месяца назад +2

    Always good videos, Thanks

  • @hans5130
    @hans5130 3 месяца назад +1

    What if you kept everything more
    Lubed and clean before you start

  • @gilbertdelgado6703
    @gilbertdelgado6703 3 месяца назад +2

    I remember year’s ago I purchased an old High Standard Model B from a friend. It was well used and a bargain. I made sure it was cleaned before I took it to a private range and had problems similar to yours. The range master took it back to his bench then ran a couple of magazines with no problems. He said it needed to be lubed and he used Lubriplate, and told me to not use oil. I have never had problems since.

    • @ClarenceCochran-ne7du
      @ClarenceCochran-ne7du 2 месяца назад

      @@gilbertdelgado6703 Lubriplate is a blended oil and several types, grades/weights are available. Lubriplate is high grade US produced Oil and Grease manufacturer, and their products are very use specific. #1 is a 10W Oil Blend, #2 20W, #3 is 30W, and there are low/high temp and various other blend products. So it depends on which product # he used.
      My 1930s Model B won't run High Velocity ammo. It runs Standard Velocity like a raped ape, but put High Velocity in it and it has all sorts of issues, but a failure to return to battery is the most common (almost every shot).

  • @archieesimmons6514
    @archieesimmons6514 3 месяца назад +1

    Semi automatic 22 don’t like bilk ammo.especially the white box Winchester. These pistols prefer CCI , . It likes the good stuff. The expensive one . Redo the video with CCI and watch difference.

  • @RevolverTv
    @RevolverTv 3 месяца назад +1

    Congrats on the weight loss bro

  • @monkeysnot-p1g
    @monkeysnot-p1g 3 месяца назад +1

    Ruger has a great warranty. I had the same issues with one of my lcp 380s. It was made in the Carolinas. I sent it in, and they fixed the issue.