jesus watching this when your staring at what will literally be your first ever model....i may as well just whip a crayon out. absolutely spectacular i aint exactly sure wtf a golden demon is but you deserve many many more. privilege to watch such artistry, thankyou
This video was an absolute eye-opener! Beginner-me would say, "If the mini is smooth here, then my highlights must also be smooth!" But everything you're saying about texture is absolutely the key; rarely is something made by nature perfectly smooth, and painting the appearance of texture adds so much more depth and realism that just an understanding of light and color theory will not accomplish. I wish I could hug you for all of these videos because they help so, so much. Again, thank you!
This might be my favorite video from you. The darker magenta up through orange to yellow on the skin is a brilliant idea and gives a great furry skin result. Very cool. And as others have said, your explanations of technique and style, all the way down to specifics of brush strokes is illuminating. I watch a lot of painting videos and this one has been more instructive than the vast majority of ones I have adsorbed. Thank you very much, it was well worth the wait from the first to the second of this series. Cheers, stay safe and healthy.
I think that this video will serve as a great blueprint for any skin I am going to paint from now on, just awesome! It helps a ton that you are showing it on such a large model too
Tremendous video, there are a lot of good painters on youtube, but none have the clarity in explaining the processes and their nuances. Many times I feel frustrated when a "tutorial" felt more like showing-off session when I am left clueless of how the magic is done except in your videos. Bravo!
From the preview you gave I thought I was stoked for the orange, but the legs are so subtly dynamic. I love the amount of color differentiation through the lower half!
Trov, if you read this, in the intro I noticed one of your very own sculpts that I have always admired 'The Joker', it also reminds me of a famous person but no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't recall who it was, the penny just dropped! Tony Blair UK PM in the 90's ? Any intention? After all he was a huge Joker!! Absolutely loving your Patrion. I was extremely rusty after my year long burn out break and you have got me back on par - now to really ramp up my skills with your truly awesome in-depth PDF's and video tutorials. I can't thank you enough!
Artists such as yourself and Marco Frisoni are pivotal in helping me transition from a step-by-step approach to a more classical painting style. Thank you so much for such fantastic content, you're doing excellent work!
Loved the video and it's my favourite one I've watched from you so far, everything's shown and explained nicely, I wasn't fan of first what you were doing with the legs (although not sure how it could've been better) but then you went over it a few times and gradually changed it and came out fantastic! Palette shown and as mentioned everything's shown and explained nicely liked with colours and why you're applying this there and brushstrokes and your thought process. Looking forward to the others now definitely, one of the better painting tutorials definitely here on youtube.
Thanks man! Just watched the first time through, and now deciding how I want to proceed with my model... I have enough colors to sub in with what you have here, but I think I may goof around with my set of kimera and see if I can come up with mixes that will work - we'll see how quickly I get frustrated :D
@@trovarion welp... I think I'm letting work stress get into this. I'm basically finished with the model, because after fucking up on just BASE COATING the damn thing, I went to take it off the base to strip it, broke it, then ripped it to pieces like a little child. I'll order another one when I'm not seething pissed. By the time it shows up maybe you'll have more of the tutorial done and I'll remember how to basics lol.
I started my own Ogroid (from the Silver Tower set) Ill use this as a guide however the ST Ogggy has a staff with flames and that opens a whole new can of worms for me, OSL, there is no avoiding it if I want to mini to read correctly. Also the pose is weird on my Oggy, with lots of the mini in shade, I think this was obviously the sculptors intention so the shaded areas are lit by the flames from the staff. I think Id be better explaining this over on Discord where I can post a picture and perhaps get some help from your Patrions.
I'm building a Beasts of Chaos starter box right now, and am fairly set on building their color scheme around dark, ruddy brown skin (Based in either Mournfang Brown or Doombull Brown), Black, "iron"-like armor, and faded, lighter colored horns. The issue I'm having is: what color should I make their cloth parts, how do I make their fur parts stand out from the black armor, and most importantly (being Beastmen), how do I go about shading their skin when the intended effect is a dark, ruddy brown? Should I be basing them in black instead?
@@trovarion I started priming all of my AOS minis in Leather Brown from Army Painter a while back, and always got good results with it as a sort of "mid-tone" starting point that provides an earthy look. Truly not sure if it's best to be that consistent, but here I am. The Beasts of Chaos army I'm doing was originally inspired by the Uruk-hai from the LOTR films, with their red-brown (amber?) skin, black armor, and white warpaint. I'm just not sure what color to go for with the clothing parts, that would compliment that scheme the best. And I'm unsure of how to build up their skin tone. Both Mournfang and Doombull give me a good color, with Mournfang looking a bit more "amber-like", while Doombull looks more "Native American red" to me, and seems closer in look to the Uruk-hai. I could do a base coat of Rhinox hide, and build up to either Mournfang or Doombull, but they are all technically base paints. For the brightest highlights, I'm thinking Skrag Brown. As for their fur, I want to go black, but am unsure of how to make it stand out from the black armor, aside from the dry brushing of Necon Compound I intend to do on the armor to weather it. Up until now, I've simply been giving any black, furry parts on models a drybrush of Skavenblight Dinge... until I realized it's barely visible at arm's length.
@@trovarion And I just wanted to say, your use of color on the Myrmidon was inspiring, and the reason I decided to try and pick your brain about schemes. Truly great paint work.
awesome! happy to hear that pro painter like you also tends to go back and forth with details :P the only problem for me is that my wet pallete is to small so if i work with too many colors at some point I have to throw away parchment paper I had in order to add new colors to the pallete :( but so far I havnt had a problem recreating simillar paint mixtures so I guess its not a big issue. Also happy to see that your pallete has paints spread all over it, after I made myself first wet pallete I was anxious a bit because people on tutorials had paints really organized in one place and I tend to spread them with the brush all over the place :P I have one question about it though - is it ok to rehydrate a litle dry paints on wet pallete which are spread into thin layer over the pallete and if so is it better to use water or some sort of glaze medium /thinner?
I would say everyone goes back and forth with details ;) noone is that perfect to have it figured out in one go :) I agree, the bigger the palette, the better. I have very confined space when I film because of the palette setup - if I zoom out more I feeel like the mixing and the idea for what the color ends up as gets lost, so i need to be close up on a smaller space, so I get what you mean. When I paint off ccam I use a large palette. If you want to reactivate paints on the palette I would almost say use a medium, because if it's only water the properties of the paint change, since most of the medium the color has naturally is already gone.
Sorry but was that shot in the beginning Golden Demon trophies? Did you ever wish to work with the evey’ metal paint team? Beautifully painted by the way.
Yes, that's panning my camera over my golden demon trophies. I never was interested in painting for the eavy metal team because they need to paint in a very restricted particular way and I always wanted to grow as a painter, learn new things and experiment.
Trovarion Miniatures Thanks for replying. Now that I think about it there wasn’t much variation of painting styles over the years. You seem to have taken it to another level. Subbed straight away.
I understand that a zenithal prime/undercoat makes the most sense if you are working with transparent colors, but wouldn't you need less base coats over a grey tone than over a black?
@@trovarion Let me give it another try. You mentioned in this video that you choose to paint over a black undercoat, instead of a zenithal one, because a zenithal undercoat would not have any benefits since you are painting with opaque colors. What I was trying to ask is: would a zenithal undercoat not have made it easier to apply the pink basecoat as in would you have needed less layers?
Do you always paint with magnifiers on? Or only when doing finer details? I'm 61 and middle-aged eyesight has made painting much more frustrating compare to 15 years ago when I left the hobby.So I find the use of magnifying glasses of some sort very interesting/required. Could you go into some detail on that subject in a video at some point?
Doesn't need a video ;) (actually I have a video where I mention it "10 things that improved my painting") But yeah: I use them whenever possible (cant always use them when recording, but would if I could) - it makes my results so much better and keeps my eyes relaxed and reduces strain.
That looks amazing. But you need very good eyes to paint something that small. I'd love to paint miniatures but I have retinitis pigmentosa. So unless I get some great visual aids, I could never do even the most basic of paints.
@@trovarion it mean I have a greatly reduced field of view and I need more light than others. I was thinking about trying magnifying glasses (jewelers or watch maker glasses?), if it works ill definitely buy myself a space marine to start.
No, I don't have time to game at all and I also mainly enjoy tve hobby for the painting aspect! I used to play Confrontation back in the days, because warband size was always something i could play painted. Thought about getting into warcry or killteam for that reason, but again...not enough time...
watching this was a revelation, thank you for taking the time to really deep dive and explain your process.
I appreciate the camera shot of the palette while you're painting.
thanks! I think it's really helpfull to see the mixes and sometimes the consitency of the paint.
someone w a high skill level making videos awesome thank you
jesus watching this when your staring at what will literally be your first ever model....i may as well just whip a crayon out. absolutely spectacular i aint exactly sure wtf a golden demon is but you deserve many many more. privilege to watch such artistry, thankyou
you are incredible at teaching processes
This video was an absolute eye-opener! Beginner-me would say, "If the mini is smooth here, then my highlights must also be smooth!" But everything you're saying about texture is absolutely the key; rarely is something made by nature perfectly smooth, and painting the appearance of texture adds so much more depth and realism that just an understanding of light and color theory will not accomplish. I wish I could hug you for all of these videos because they help so, so much. Again, thank you!
Would love to have you finish this master class even as a paid course on your website or something. It’s a great video series
This might be my favorite video from you. The darker magenta up through orange to yellow on the skin is a brilliant idea and gives a great furry skin result. Very cool. And as others have said, your explanations of technique and style, all the way down to specifics of brush strokes is illuminating. I watch a lot of painting videos and this one has been more instructive than the vast majority of ones I have adsorbed. Thank you very much, it was well worth the wait from the first to the second of this series.
Cheers, stay safe and healthy.
This tutorial made me realise two things a) Time to sign up for your Patreon b) I don't understand dislikes on a video as great as this.
I love you channel! As a somewhat intermediate painter, its good to find content that isn't completely aimed at beginners.
thank you!
I think that this video will serve as a great blueprint for any skin I am going to paint from now on, just awesome! It helps a ton that you are showing it on such a large model too
Yeah, all of what I talk about in this video applies to all other minis too :)
@@trovarion oh absolutely, but it is visible much better on a large mini :)
Tremendous video, there are a lot of good painters on youtube, but none have the clarity in explaining the processes and their nuances. Many times I feel frustrated when a "tutorial" felt more like showing-off session when I am left clueless of how the magic is done except in your videos. Bravo!
From the preview you gave I thought I was stoked for the orange, but the legs are so subtly dynamic. I love the amount of color differentiation through the lower half!
I only wish I could like this video twice!! so useful and informative.
Absolutely awesome, i love the way you paint
About to paint a Garrosh looking orc and I want to apply this tone it. Thanks a lot and keep up the great content.
Thank you so much for making so many free videos, they are very helpful and interesting!
Trov, if you read this, in the intro I noticed one of your very own sculpts that I have always admired 'The Joker', it also reminds me of a famous person but no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't recall who it was, the penny just dropped! Tony Blair UK PM in the 90's ? Any intention? After all he was a huge Joker!!
Absolutely loving your Patrion. I was extremely rusty after my year long burn out break and you have got me back on par - now to really ramp up my skills with your truly awesome in-depth PDF's and video tutorials. I can't thank you enough!
no intention - and thank you!
Really enjoyed watching the techniques in practice. Learned a lot! Thank you for your guidance!
This video is the best part of this quarantine 😊 time enough to follow and practice this video ❤
Artists such as yourself and Marco Frisoni are pivotal in helping me transition from a step-by-step approach to a more classical painting style. Thank you so much for such fantastic content, you're doing excellent work!
Thanks a lot!
Very enjoyable and informative... keep them coming.
I love your take on the skin layering for this model
Those are very relaxing to watch, thank you for sharing your knowledge
insane video. thanks for the whole series!
Amazing video man! One of the most useful tutorials I’ve seen on RUclips. So many different techniques/concepts all in one video. Great work!
thanks! that means a lot!
Stunning work, thank you for explaining why you do things.
Great video , really helpful hearing your thought process on painting ! Skin looks so cool !
Wow, this was a very educational video.
Thanks man, I'm looking forward for the next one.
Loved the video and it's my favourite one I've watched from you so far, everything's shown and explained nicely, I wasn't fan of first what you were doing with the legs (although not sure how it could've been better) but then you went over it a few times and gradually changed it and came out fantastic!
Palette shown and as mentioned everything's shown and explained nicely liked with colours and why you're applying this there and brushstrokes and your thought process.
Looking forward to the others now definitely, one of the better painting tutorials definitely here on youtube.
Excellent video, lots of useful information!
Wow this video was really insightful, going to try these techniques on my Goliath Zerker
Nice!
Fantastic! 3 more minis to paint before I can start mine, really looking forward to it :D
Thank you for this. I will be giving it a go tonight!
I said I wanted to get this same orange skin tone for my orruk megaboss and now after watching that is a definite.
just great. Thanks
Thanks man! Just watched the first time through, and now deciding how I want to proceed with my model... I have enough colors to sub in with what you have here, but I think I may goof around with my set of kimera and see if I can come up with mixes that will work - we'll see how quickly I get frustrated :D
Why not! You can always post your progress in the discord and ask if you need help with anything!
@@trovarion welp... I think I'm letting work stress get into this. I'm basically finished with the model, because after fucking up on just BASE COATING the damn thing, I went to take it off the base to strip it, broke it, then ripped it to pieces like a little child. I'll order another one when I'm not seething pissed. By the time it shows up maybe you'll have more of the tutorial done and I'll remember how to basics lol.
Thank you for this video!!!
I started my own Ogroid (from the Silver Tower set) Ill use this as a guide however the ST Ogggy has a staff with flames and that opens a whole new can of worms for me, OSL, there is no avoiding it if I want to mini to read correctly. Also the pose is weird on my Oggy, with lots of the mini in shade, I think this was obviously the sculptors intention so the shaded areas are lit by the flames from the staff. I think Id be better explaining this over on Discord where I can post a picture and perhaps get some help from your Patrions.
I'm building a Beasts of Chaos starter box right now, and am fairly set on building their color scheme around dark, ruddy brown skin (Based in either Mournfang Brown or Doombull Brown), Black, "iron"-like armor, and faded, lighter colored horns. The issue I'm having is: what color should I make their cloth parts, how do I make their fur parts stand out from the black armor, and most importantly (being Beastmen), how do I go about shading their skin when the intended effect is a dark, ruddy brown? Should I be basing them in black instead?
Why would you not prime them black? What color do you want to paint the clothing?
@@trovarion I started priming all of my AOS minis in Leather Brown from Army Painter a while back, and always got good results with it as a sort of "mid-tone" starting point that provides an earthy look. Truly not sure if it's best to be that consistent, but here I am. The Beasts of Chaos army I'm doing was originally inspired by the Uruk-hai from the LOTR films, with their red-brown (amber?) skin, black armor, and white warpaint. I'm just not sure what color to go for with the clothing parts, that would compliment that scheme the best.
And I'm unsure of how to build up their skin tone. Both Mournfang and Doombull give me a good color, with Mournfang looking a bit more "amber-like", while Doombull looks more "Native American red" to me, and seems closer in look to the Uruk-hai. I could do a base coat of Rhinox hide, and build up to either Mournfang or Doombull, but they are all technically base paints. For the brightest highlights, I'm thinking Skrag Brown.
As for their fur, I want to go black, but am unsure of how to make it stand out from the black armor, aside from the dry brushing of Necon Compound I intend to do on the armor to weather it. Up until now, I've simply been giving any black, furry parts on models a drybrush of Skavenblight Dinge... until I realized it's barely visible at arm's length.
@@trovarion And I just wanted to say, your use of color on the Myrmidon was inspiring, and the reason I decided to try and pick your brain about schemes. Truly great paint work.
awesome! happy to hear that pro painter like you also tends to go back and forth with details :P the only problem for me is that my wet pallete is to small so if i work with too many colors at some point I have to throw away parchment paper I had in order to add new colors to the pallete :( but so far I havnt had a problem recreating simillar paint mixtures so I guess its not a big issue. Also happy to see that your pallete has paints spread all over it, after I made myself first wet pallete I was anxious a bit because people on tutorials had paints really organized in one place and I tend to spread them with the brush all over the place :P I have one question about it though - is it ok to rehydrate a litle dry paints on wet pallete which are spread into thin layer over the pallete and if so is it better to use water or some sort of glaze medium /thinner?
I would say everyone goes back and forth with details ;) noone is that perfect to have it figured out in one go :) I agree, the bigger the palette, the better. I have very confined space when I film because of the palette setup - if I zoom out more I feeel like the mixing and the idea for what the color ends up as gets lost, so i need to be close up on a smaller space, so I get what you mean. When I paint off ccam I use a large palette.
If you want to reactivate paints on the palette I would almost say use a medium, because if it's only water the properties of the paint change, since most of the medium the color has naturally is already gone.
Sorry but was that shot in the beginning Golden Demon trophies? Did you ever wish to work with the evey’ metal paint team? Beautifully painted by the way.
Yes, that's panning my camera over my golden demon trophies. I never was interested in painting for the eavy metal team because they need to paint in a very restricted particular way and I always wanted to grow as a painter, learn new things and experiment.
Trovarion Miniatures Thanks for replying. Now that I think about it there wasn’t much variation of painting styles over the years. You seem to have taken it to another level. Subbed straight away.
thanks!
Hallo ,
Danke für die tollen Videos. Werde demnächst wohl Mitglied. Welches Tool nutzt du zur Farbenanalyse?
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What about the tail? Great tutorial by the way!!
Thanks! The video already was too long - will do the tail in a seperate video!
I understand that a zenithal prime/undercoat makes the most sense if you are working with transparent colors, but wouldn't you need less base coats over a grey tone than over a black?
And where are your shadows?
@@trovarion sorry, I meant to say greyscale. So shadows are almost black and the top is almost white.
@@Wijkert i have no idea what you are asking, sorry.
@@trovarion Let me give it another try. You mentioned in this video that you choose to paint over a black undercoat, instead of a zenithal one, because a zenithal undercoat would not have any benefits since you are painting with opaque colors. What I was trying to ask is: would a zenithal undercoat not have made it easier to apply the pink basecoat as in would you have needed less layers?
@@Wijkert why not spray it completely white at that point?
Do you always paint with magnifiers on? Or only when doing finer details? I'm 61 and middle-aged eyesight has made painting much more frustrating compare to 15 years ago when I left the hobby.So I find the use of magnifying glasses of some sort very interesting/required. Could you go into some detail on that subject in a video at some point?
Doesn't need a video ;) (actually I have a video where I mention it "10 things that improved my painting") But yeah: I use them whenever possible (cant always use them when recording, but would if I could) - it makes my results so much better and keeps my eyes relaxed and reduces strain.
When you are thinning for a wash or a glaze, are you just adding water? My glazes always seem too creamy, or if they are thin enough have no pigment.
just water! there is a video: ruclips.net/video/am7cZw2jKIQ/видео.html
if you would zoom on the saurface you paint i could better see, what shadow you leave in around 3:30 maybe
No the pink is good idea, as a work in progress it's looking great, I had a nit pick but you ain't done, so never mind.
What palette do you use? This turtorial is fucking gold btw! ❤️
Thanks! Back then i used a custom made, now i just use a redgrass with baking paper
That looks amazing. But you need very good eyes to paint something that small. I'd love to paint miniatures but I have retinitis pigmentosa. So unless I get some great visual aids, I could never do even the most basic of paints.
I don't know the illness. sorry to hear you have it. I just want to add that I always paint with magnifying glasses too.
@@trovarion it mean I have a greatly reduced field of view and I need more light than others. I was thinking about trying magnifying glasses (jewelers or watch maker glasses?), if it works ill definitely buy myself a space marine to start.
@@janpedersen683 i have links to the glasses i use in the description of the video.
@@trovarion great! Thanks!
Could you do a pink horror tutorial maybe? :D
Maybe!
@@trovarion Thanks for the reply!
Non related question, do you still play warhammer or any other table top game?
No, I don't have time to game at all and I also mainly enjoy tve hobby for the painting aspect! I used to play Confrontation back in the days, because warband size was always something i could play painted. Thought about getting into warcry or killteam for that reason, but again...not enough time...
why did you speed up the video? It makes it incredible hard to tell how you do your brush strokes?
You see everything done once in real time and then it is sped up. No need to drag the video out to two hours.
These videos would benefit from a bit of background music, something subtle. But other then that thanks for this video, I learned a lot !
Music is always a double edged sword...hit and miss...some like it, some hate it... focus here is on learning. Can always put on your own music :)
@@trovarion I suppose you are right, it was just a suggestion
@@jakub_paints6775 I know mate, thanks! :) it's just...the music "discussion" is as old as this channel ;)
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Another way: Gilliman Flesh. Done