A blast from the past. Been a Pats fan since the last couple years of the 70's. I know how the Jets fans feel, trust me. But, I also know what it feels like to do lots of celebrating too. I forgot about the Superbowl loss to the Packers. So many Superbowls!! :) Thanks for sharing!
Same same with me and then my kids started being interested in football in about two thousand and one. They've been Pats fans all their lives and all they've known is Tom Brady.
@@rconley95 awful? Okay let’s compare him shall we? First off he was a starter. And can’t count cos awful? Bledsoe ended before injury awful so take him out. Belichick took an overhype QB however was winning went to a super bowl and in one season turned him to awful. So we can’t count him. Grogan had a lot of awful seasons. So then he’s gone. Shall I go to zolack and flutie and qbs before you probably jumped on bandwagon and named the other 2 QBs known. So stay in your own lane.
"I'm the best decision this organization has ever made." Sounds ballzy as hell, until you watch this video. Who should be surprised at what he did for the Succaneers?
Steve Grogan was the Patriots quarterback when I started following the team in the late 70s. I remember the Super Bowl loss to the Bears and the one to the Packers. That 1996 team had a dark cloud swirling over them going into that one. Who knew going into that Super Bowl that it would be Parcells last game as the Pats head coach.
The Patriots really effed up not giving Flutie a chance ! Not to mention plenty of other teams that couldn't look beyond his height. He was able to prove everyone wrong in 98. Can you imagine what his stat line would look like if he played in the NFL from 85 -2005.
Im now 60 and remember alot of these Quaterbacks mainly from Jim Plunkett on! Steve grogan was a favorite i never really like Tony Eason and Scott Zolak was great and of course Bledsoe changed it all ! Thanks for all the memories
Joe Kapp. Completely forgot he played for New England... It was sad to see a great athlete career fading away like that. He was a beast in the CFL and wasn't bad at all with Minnesota. Great research.
Ahhhh…. The pre-Brady years. When I was 10 or so, growing up in Chicago, I remember those Patriots.. They were always near the bottom with the Tampa Bucks. My earliest memories I recall having a mini helmet for each team, and since the Bears were mediocre, I remember thinking how sad it was for the Patriots to be even worse than the Bears, so I pulled for them also. My mom and dad divorced, and we moved to San Diego, where the Chargers played. When I was about 16, the Chargers drafted Dan Fouts and the rest was history to me. The Chargers hired Don Coryell in 1978, and they quickly became my team. Year after year 1 could you ever gf. The wear and tear her, and show had Bledsoe and he was pretty good. I saw the football gods give us Coryell and Zambezi, so that was the reason I moved off of the Bears and the Patriots. Fouts was the greatest quarterback I ever saw, and I’ve been a Chargers fan ever since! It’s funny that I followed the Patriots and the Bucks all that time before there was any Belichick and Brady, and after all is said and done, Brady wound up playing for both those awful teams and he has given them both titles. I grew to hate Brady because he always beat my Chargers, but not any more..
Who s my favorite Patriot QB of all time.nu 14 STEVE GROGAN.when football was smash mouth and QB's were not protected like they are now Steve grogan was the toughest bar none QB and had a CANNON for an arm.he played through incredible pain and injuries.when the jets were real good in the mid eighties the new your sack exchange,Klecko/ Gastino said Grogan was the tougest QB by far.broken thumbs,tons of other injuries,hell I saw him play in a neck collar in one game.I would put the 76 pats against any modern Pats team in the the last two decades.
I was too young to remember Parilli. Brady and Grogan are the ones who really stole my heart. I remember Grogan throwing an interception and his team members were standing and watching and he ran to stop the touchdown. He was tough as nails and smart. I moved to California shortly after the Bears and watching this, I can't believe how many quarterbacks the Patriots had between Grogan and Bledsoe. I came back, just in time for Bledsoe to Brady.
There are quite a few former and future CFL QBs in that list: Songin, Parilli, Trull, Sherman, Kapp, Flutie. Don's name is pronounced "Trule;" I saw him play in Edmonton in 1970 and '71. Tom Sherman beat out Joe Pisarcik for the starting job in Calgary at the beginning of the 1976 season, and they were both gone before October.
I'd feel that actually, the better story would be how risky, rocky and full on incompetent for the First 33 Years of the Franchise until even Drew Bledsoe and the stories, not all of them true, would fill an Irish Bar. I'd feel that the Samuel Adams Styled Logo and All American Jerseys should be back and not necessarily the iteriations or interpretations of the Flying Elvis or the Battleship Uniforms that defined this Twin Dynasty Era.
Baltimore Colt HOF receiver Raymond Berry (never dropped a pass) Coached a mediocre Patriot team (except for Andre Tippett) to the SuperBowl but remains ignored in Patriots history and Foxboro HOF. Berry had each player sin a personal no-drug pledge. Lik Belichick he had Maryland foortball roots but he is ignored in Foxboro.
Skipping Dan Marino must be the football equivalent of that record label refusing to sign a young band called The Beatles, because they thought guitar bands were a thing of the past.
When Tom Brady became the Patriots' quarterback, NFL rules were far more pass friendly than they were three decades beforehand. If he had played under the same rules Jim Plunkett did during his first few years in the league, I guarantee his statistics would not have been nearly as impressive. That's why I think it's unfair to compare quarterbacks from those two eras. Different sets of rules produce different results.
If the Patriots would have been worth a shit when they drafted Jim Plunket he would have been great early on but Drew Bledso was great until Carroll showed up
@@angelvalle9963 I'm not saying it was tom himself but bill clearly is not doing great without him tom had players like rob Gronkowski in his prime randy moss and wes welker but bill is not doing what he has been doing for the past 20 years tom also barley had anyone to work with last year julian Edelman is the only receiver that bbn was at least half decent he had last year and he still carried the Pat's to the playoffs although he isnt the player he used to be bill isnt winning without him right now and we can all see that
@@purplecreature8178 why do you think toms recivers couldnt run the routs the salery cap is taped and draft picks slots are not that good time to rebiuld the team you need to loose to get them draft picks to rebuild a younger team that will be around for a long time to come you can not rebiuld a team around a qb that might have 3 years left tops this year pats will have best draft pick slot since years ago and be a start to a new younger patriots team it wont happen in a year but it will happen
I completely Disagree with that assessment that Tom Brady is the greatest "football player" of all time. However, I would agree to the statement that, "Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback in the NFL!" without argument although others may disagree. But to compare a great quarterback with a great running back is like comparing an orange with an apple. For all we know Tom Brady would make a terrible running back and couldn't even catch a pass aimed at his chest. And after all, isn't a running back a football player too. I believe if you asked Tom Brady about my statement he would totally agree that comment is honest and makes total sense. But let me reiterate, Tom Brady, especially considering his age and his journey, is indeed the greatest quarterback in the NFL today. He just proved that with the Bucs. Great job Mr. Brady and keep up the great work. Hope to see you around for another decade!
Good thing your opinion doesn’t count and facts and stats do. And his game management leadership and makes everyone around him just so much better and more excited to play. A great GM without being one look who came onto the Buccs. So yes all around he is as been said by anyone who knows football Brady is the greatest player to play the game for all so many reasons.
@@ki_tb12 If you want to argue who the greatest football player is, you're both right. You can't compare what a QB does to what a G does or a CB or DT. Modern football is so specialized you almost have to separate it by position. As Tony says, given everything, he is the greatest QB of all time, and not all of the QBs who commented said he was the greatest player of all time. So is he greater than someone like Sammy Baugh? Granted it is two different eras of football, but Baugh was a complete team leader, as in the single platoon era he played offense, defense and special teams. He was arguably the greatest QB of his era, a premier DB and arguably the greatest punter of all time. I would argue that since the dawn of specialized offensive and defensive players, the argument of the best football player of all time is futile; and you can only argue by position.
The problem is this: the most valuable player in terms of winning is the QB. So the greatest football player has to be a QB. The greatest QB is Tom Brady. In athletic ability terms Brady probably isn’t in the top 1000 but that’s irrelevant. Sorry but that’s the way I see it if you think that winning is what it’s about. If you think that winning is only one criterion then I would suggest that we go on NFL combine results. In that case Brady wouldn’t even make the league - he’s that bad.
as a fan when you watched bledsoe he took some big chances when it worked it was like wow when it didnt it was big time turnover so every time he past the deep throw you would close your eyes and say oh no bledsoe i cant look
You never watch one game To make that statement cos you didn’t see his last two season records or the one super bowl loss he never belongs in. So don’t make up things. Bledsoe said he could never have done it. Fact
No, he wouldn't have. How scared was Belichick of Bledsoe? He traded him within the division. He did well in his first 8 games with the Bills, but went downhill from there.
Grogan was my QB growing up. Still the 3rd best QB the Pats ever had (behind Bledsoe and Brady).
Yes top 3
What about Joe Kapp? Tony Eason?
A blast from the past. Been a Pats fan since the last couple years of the 70's. I know how the Jets fans feel, trust me. But, I also know what it feels like to do lots of celebrating too. I forgot about the Superbowl loss to the Packers. So many Superbowls!! :) Thanks for sharing!
It’s so sad Brady left us😢😔😣
Lol I’m a Steelers fan and I still miss seeing Brady on the pats
Same same with me and then my kids started being interested in football in about two thousand and one. They've been Pats fans all their lives and all they've known is Tom Brady.
So, what do y'all think of Mac Jones????
Steve Grogan, Drew Bledsoe. That's about all you need to know lol
No Tony Eason? Lol he was awful
Grogan was awesome
Lol 😆
@@rconley95 awful? Okay let’s compare him shall we? First off he was a starter. And can’t count cos awful? Bledsoe ended before injury awful so take him out. Belichick took an overhype QB however was winning went to a super bowl and in one season turned him to awful. So we can’t count him. Grogan had a lot of awful seasons. So then he’s gone. Shall I go to zolack and flutie and qbs before you probably jumped on bandwagon and named the other 2 QBs known. So stay in your own lane.
@Frederic Menjivar 🤣
"I'm the best decision this organization has ever made."
Sounds ballzy as hell, until you watch this video. Who should be surprised at what he did for the Succaneers?
Steve Grogan was the Patriots quarterback when I started following the team in the late 70s. I remember the Super Bowl loss to the Bears and the one to the Packers. That 1996 team had a dark cloud swirling over them going into that one. Who knew going into that Super Bowl that it would be Parcells last game as the Pats head coach.
The Patriots really effed up not giving Flutie a chance ! Not to mention plenty of other teams that couldn't look beyond his height. He was able to prove everyone wrong in 98. Can you imagine what his stat line would look like if he played in the NFL from 85 -2005.
Im now 60 and remember alot of these Quaterbacks mainly from Jim Plunkett on! Steve grogan was a favorite i never really like Tony Eason and Scott Zolak was great and of course Bledsoe changed it all ! Thanks for all the memories
Joe Kapp. Completely forgot he played for New England... It was sad to see a great athlete career fading away like that. He was a beast in the CFL and wasn't bad at all with Minnesota.
Great research.
He was in the SB the year before he was w Pats, 1970. He sucked!! I was sitting in stands at Harvard Stadium.
Wow Joe Kapp. He was a Viking when I started watching the NFL.
This would be a 7 part mini-series, if you named all the Detroit Lion QBs.
Not if you named all the good Lions quarterbacks.
Bobby Lane, Matthew Stafford. Here endeth the list.
Sean Jackson; Greg Landry? Bill Munson, Eric Hipple...
Ahhhh…. The pre-Brady years.
When I was 10 or so, growing up in Chicago, I remember those Patriots.. They were always near the bottom with the Tampa Bucks. My earliest memories I recall having a mini helmet for each team, and since the Bears were mediocre, I remember thinking how sad it was for the Patriots to be even worse than the Bears, so I pulled for them also.
My mom and dad divorced, and we moved to San Diego, where the Chargers played. When I was about 16, the Chargers drafted Dan Fouts and the rest was history to me.
The Chargers hired Don Coryell in 1978, and they quickly became my team. Year after year 1 could you ever gf. The wear and tear her, and show had Bledsoe and he was pretty good. I saw the football gods give us Coryell and Zambezi, so that was the reason I moved off of the Bears and the Patriots.
Fouts was the greatest quarterback I ever saw, and I’ve been a Chargers fan ever since!
It’s funny that I followed the Patriots and the Bucks all that time before there was any Belichick and Brady, and after all is said and done, Brady wound up playing for both those awful teams and he has given them both titles. I grew to hate Brady because he always beat my Chargers, but not any more..
Just found out the Patriots had other QB
You been hiding under a rock
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 me too LOL
@@southsidecompton9668 How long have you not had a sense of humor?
@@luket4185 Well yeah you think only Tom Brady was there only QB
@@southsidecompton9668 You didn't awnser my question.
Here after he has 7, this video is already outdated
Who s my favorite Patriot QB of all time.nu 14 STEVE GROGAN.when football was smash mouth and QB's were not protected like they are now Steve grogan was the toughest bar none QB and had a CANNON for an arm.he played through incredible pain and injuries.when the jets were real good in the mid eighties the new your sack exchange,Klecko/ Gastino said Grogan was the tougest QB by far.broken thumbs,tons of other injuries,hell I saw him play in a neck collar in one game.I would put the 76 pats against any modern Pats team in the the last two decades.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
he played with that neck brace most of the mid 80s till his last year playing
Before Brady? Patriots Greatest Quarterbacks:
1. Drew Bledsoe
2. Steve Grogan
3. Jim Plunkett
Babe Parilli before Plunkett. Parelli took the Pats to an AFL title game.
@@tygrkhat4087 ditto. But Plunkett didnt do that great. Grogan"s stats werent that great.
They looked better with those throwbacks and Pat the Patriot.
No doubt...i agree...Pats should return permanently to the red throwbacks and pat the patriot logo on the helmet
Yeah, but I liked the Colonial Blue and off white too. Cant stand latest. Exactly like a football uniform I had when I was a little kid
Pats fan since 2008 bucks
First Pats QB was from my hometown Clemson Tigers.....Harvey White....1960 Fleer card # 1..only card ever of him.
It's difficult to imagine the Patriots ever being this bad.
Oh they were, and inept
And it's now becoming a reality once again
Unfortunately they are in 2023 again
Michael Bishop? 😭😭😭
Great redo bro!
Thanks man! Good to see you, it's been a while!
@@ChaseChats Yea dude 11th grade and sports coming has been taking away my life lol. Keep up the vids, I gotta catch up now!
Did he start?
1 Brady
2 Bledsoe
3 Grogan
4 Parilli
5 Eason
I was too young to remember Parilli. Brady and Grogan are the ones who really stole my heart. I remember Grogan throwing an interception and his team members were standing and watching and he ran to stop the touchdown. He was tough as nails and smart. I moved to California shortly after the Bears and watching this, I can't believe how many quarterbacks the Patriots had between Grogan and Bledsoe. I came back, just in time for Bledsoe to Brady.
Eason? Blech!!!
As a lifelong Patriots fan I have to say I only know about half of those names. I think there are good reasons for that.
I’m sub on my main account but I watch on my school computer all the time to
Steve Grogan was one tuff SOB.
In 5 playoffs he only went to he threw 3 td passes. Yeah he’s tough. Not tuff.
@@ki_tb12 lol Thank you Nr. Spelling Bee lol.
9:02 "one of the biggest Superbowl thrashings the league has ever seen".
Brady and Mahomes: Hold my beer.
Yup!! We got whooped by the Bears.
There are quite a few former and future CFL QBs in that list: Songin, Parilli, Trull, Sherman, Kapp, Flutie. Don's name is pronounced "Trule;" I saw him play in Edmonton in 1970 and '71. Tom Sherman beat out Joe Pisarcik for the starting job in Calgary at the beginning of the 1976 season, and they were both gone before October.
Ed butch songin !
Imagine picking Marino? That decision was worse than BB picking N'Keal Harry over DK Metcalf.
Thank God they finally got rid of that douche, and that dead wood Stidham.
Add another for Brady
Moe Lewis (57) should be in the NFL Hall of Fame for the greatest hit in football history ....THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I wouldn't go that far! Brady would have had his shot regardless! Rooting for Bledsoe to be hurt is disgusting!
@@Jondsmusic is it becuz he’s white?, if he was black you wouldn’t care lol😂
Tony Eason
Mount Rushmore of Patriots QB’s:
Tom Brady
Drew Bledsoe
Steve Grogan
Babe Parilli
It's like watching the highlights of the early Buccaneers. Wait a second, what the fk is going on here....
Patriots traded Nick Buonoconti (HOF) for Mike Taliffaro. (Spelling?)
Taliaferro, pronounced "Tolliver."
Did they really?
I'd feel that actually, the better story would be how risky, rocky and full on incompetent for the First 33 Years of the Franchise until even Drew Bledsoe and the stories, not all of them true, would fill an Irish Bar. I'd feel that the Samuel Adams Styled Logo and All American Jerseys should be back and not necessarily the iteriations or interpretations of the Flying Elvis or the Battleship Uniforms that defined this Twin Dynasty Era.
We call this era the B.B. era...
i remember the old days 85 was a joke
Next Is Raiders Quarterbacks Before Derek Carr
Baltimore Colt HOF receiver Raymond Berry (never dropped a pass) Coached a mediocre Patriot team (except for Andre Tippett) to the SuperBowl but remains ignored in Patriots history and Foxboro HOF. Berry had each player sin a personal no-drug pledge. Lik Belichick he had Maryland foortball roots but he is ignored in Foxboro.
Don't forget John Hannah was on the team too even though the Bears' defense treated him like a fodder that game anyway.
Tom Brady is the Patriot Way.
Skipping Dan Marino must be the football equivalent of that record label refusing to sign a young band called The Beatles, because they thought guitar bands were a thing of the past.
Oh yupppp 😎
Make it 7
😂😂 tua, this is funny
Babe Parelli the goat
When Tom Brady became the Patriots' quarterback, NFL rules were far more pass friendly than they were three decades beforehand. If he had played under the same rules Jim Plunkett did during his first few years in the league, I guarantee his statistics would not have been nearly as impressive. That's why I think it's unfair to compare quarterbacks from those two eras. Different sets of rules produce different results.
Please tell me that Burrow is hope for the Bengals to, at the very least, make it past round one.
It all comes down to smart gameplans. If your plan is for Andy Dalton to throw 60 times, you are gonna lose. Burrow is clearly an improvement.
They did, made it to SB.
is this a reupload?
Redone and much improved
Zolak was on Tecmo Bowl 😂😂😂
If the Patriots would have been worth a shit when they drafted Jim Plunket he would have been great early on but Drew Bledso was great until Carroll showed up
The patriots had quarterbacks before Tom Brady? Like ..... Joe Kapp?
The 86 SuperBowl where the Refrigerator beat Hannah like a drum and Dummy Ditka kept Walter Payton from scoring a TD so Fridge could.
All those QBs needed to do before he got there was dink and dunk
I refuse to believe there was even Patriots before Tom Brady 😂
Ya the patriots sarted their franchise in 1999
Guess what? The Patriots were a franchise before Tom Brady came around; so, deal with it.
So who were the Bears beating in 1986?
Who did Wilford Brimley hit?
Jerry rice the goat if Tom make the playoffs or win a ring he the goat is it Tom or bill
QBs before Brady
1. Someone not very good
2. Someone not very good
3. Someone not very good
Brady who ?
Lol bill bilichick Is not the reason they were good it was tom
Lol yeah one player wins all by himself keep dreaming.
@@angelvalle9963 I'm not saying it was tom himself but bill clearly is not doing great without him tom had players like rob Gronkowski in his prime randy moss and wes welker but bill is not doing what he has been doing for the past 20 years tom also barley had anyone to work with last year julian Edelman is the only receiver that bbn was at least half decent he had last year and he still carried the Pat's to the playoffs although he isnt the player he used to be bill isnt winning without him right now and we can all see that
@@purplecreature8178 why do you think toms recivers couldnt run the routs the salery cap is taped and draft picks slots are not that good time to rebiuld the team you need to loose to get them draft picks to rebuild a younger team that will be around for a long time to come you can not rebiuld a team around a qb that might have 3 years left tops this year pats will have best draft pick slot since years ago and be a start to a new younger patriots team it wont happen in a year but it will happen
I completely Disagree with that assessment that Tom Brady is the greatest "football player" of all time. However, I would agree to the statement that, "Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback in the NFL!" without argument although others may disagree. But to compare a great quarterback with a great running back is like comparing an orange with an apple. For all we know Tom Brady would make a terrible running back and couldn't even catch a pass aimed at his chest. And after all, isn't a running back a football player too. I believe if you asked Tom Brady about my statement he would totally agree that comment is honest and makes total sense. But let me reiterate, Tom Brady, especially considering his age and his journey, is indeed the greatest quarterback in the NFL today. He just proved that with the Bucs. Great job Mr. Brady and keep up the great work. Hope to see you around for another decade!
Good thing your opinion doesn’t count and facts and stats do. And his game management leadership and makes everyone around him just so much better and more excited to play. A great GM without being one look who came onto the Buccs. So yes all around he is as been said by anyone who knows football Brady is the greatest player to play the game for all so many reasons.
@@ki_tb12 If you want to argue who the greatest football player is, you're both right. You can't compare what a QB does to what a G does or a CB or DT. Modern football is so specialized you almost have to separate it by position. As Tony says, given everything, he is the greatest QB of all time, and not all of the QBs who commented said he was the greatest player of all time.
So is he greater than someone like Sammy Baugh? Granted it is two different eras of football, but Baugh was a complete team leader, as in the single platoon era he played offense, defense and special teams. He was arguably the greatest QB of his era, a premier DB and arguably the greatest punter of all time.
I would argue that since the dawn of specialized offensive and defensive players, the argument of the best football player of all time is futile; and you can only argue by position.
@@tygrkhat4087 no it’s not with all due respect. Facts show it.
The problem is this: the most valuable player in terms of winning is the QB. So the greatest football player has to be a QB. The greatest QB is Tom Brady. In athletic ability terms Brady probably isn’t in the top 1000 but that’s irrelevant. Sorry but that’s the way I see it if you think that winning is what it’s about. If you think that winning is only one criterion then I would suggest that we go on NFL combine results. In that case Brady wouldn’t even make the league - he’s that bad.
Brady has run for over 1,ooo yds and 26 or 27 TDs, and caught a pass or two.
Let's be honest, Bledsoe would have won just as many SBs.
as a fan when you watched bledsoe he took some big chances when it worked it was like wow when it didnt it was big time turnover so every time he past the deep throw you would close your eyes and say oh no bledsoe i cant look
Doubt it
lol.. no
You never watch one game To make that statement cos you didn’t see his last two season records or the one super bowl loss he never belongs in. So don’t make up things. Bledsoe said he could never have done it. Fact
No, he wouldn't have. How scared was Belichick of Bledsoe? He traded him within the division. He did well in his first 8 games with the Bills, but went downhill from there.