Why HYBE’s Success at the 2024 Billboard Awards is a Reflection of Global Dominance, Not “Payola”

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @yellowgreensun
    @yellowgreensun Месяц назад +145

    Billboard Music Awards (BBMAs) nominees always based on numbers. Number of streams, digital & physical sales, radio spin, that all calculated into BBHot100 & Billboard 200 chart (If your faves song can chart higher & have longer weeks staying at those chart, it can increase the chance of ur faves to be nominated in BBMAs), BBMAs also took social media engagement into consideration. We as fans can track all those numbers if u know where to look at & what tools to use, that way it lessen the chance of fraudulent when it comes to BBMAs.
    & if we look at the criteria that BBMAs took for their nominees, it's no wonder the majority that get nominated from Kpop is Hybe artists.
    So everyone who screaming Hybe payola when it comes to BBMAs need to educate themselves first bcz it's not only embarrassing but it become pathetic at this point.

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +27

      @@yellowgreensun they think billboards is mama 😭

    • @hasibahmdadnan
      @hasibahmdadnan Месяц назад +3

      True, I watched top 30 most streamed kpop songs list almost everyday and half of the list belongs to hybe groups and soloists (sometimes more). It's almost the same number everytime so it's expected for them to be nominated.

    • @lovelyseo.18
      @lovelyseo.18 Месяц назад

      ​@@rosescrib hie. I love your videos and your take on situations. Would you terribly mind doing a video on company stans cause this has become a major problem. And how supporting a group automatically makes you a company stan. Like I'm so done. I would like to see your take on it

  • @sehbasareen6669
    @sehbasareen6669 Месяц назад +148

    The fact that almost all hybe groups are nominated just goes on to show how successful and loved they all are,antis used to swear that only bts were popular in hybe

    • @Лена-р6я3и
      @Лена-р6я3и Месяц назад +7

      Only bts are popular from hybe, its a fact. And billboard created kpop noms just not to let kpop artists to be among american artists but to leech on kpop fans. Where do you see success? 😂

    • @sehbasareen6669
      @sehbasareen6669 Месяц назад

      @Лена-р6я3и keep telling yourself that

    • @nicoleloss7987
      @nicoleloss7987 Месяц назад +14

      They are all successful

    • @Лена-р6я3и
      @Лена-р6я3и Месяц назад +1

      @@nicoleloss7987 sure🤣

    • @Pere_lily
      @Pere_lily Месяц назад

      ​@@Лена-р6я3иtoxicity and denial 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @nightingale4786
    @nightingale4786 Месяц назад +69

    plus, it's not like nonhybe groups didn't get nominated. both stray kidz and ateez got nominated as well and it makes perfect sense since they both had big years in the US market. it's esp cool seeing ateez get nominated, as they don't have big company backing nor major industry connections like hybe/jyp.

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +13

      Exactly I’m so happy for them especially Ateez. The boys really deserve this level of recognition

    • @DaddiesLittlePsycho
      @DaddiesLittlePsycho Месяц назад

      Yes they do, they have MASSIVE connections in the west. They have deals with almost EVRY SINGLE KPOP RETAILER A to either prioritize their comebacks whe they happen and throw literal CARNIVALS in their name have their releases, for days on end some of them, with the purpose of getting people to buy their albums. Hell, one in Seattle Washington was WUITE LITERALLY the majority reason for their first #1 album on the 200 chart. They were bragging about it online. Lol
      Furthermore, those retailers which when it comes to this variety are all the smaller ones, they also have them prioritize ATEEZ all together. They will only carry about 1 album, usually the most recent release, of groupa who are their direct competition. Meanwhile, they will carry every single item ever released by Ateez. These ones also happen to be on the smaller side. In other words, they are easily paid off, because they can Pau them more than what they are likely to make as a new business in a niche market. Of course, finding contracts help. Lol Examples of these shops include 'Musidom' and 'Hello82'...
      Anyway, they either have shops that do that, or... they have shops that are MUCH BIGGER and we'll established. They obviously aren't able to afford to pay off a company who is a main selling for many of the groups competitors, and of course then it would be VERY obvious something was going on. So instead, they have them do other stuff. Such as turn their social medias into a what I can only call a exclusive ATEEZ promotional fan club site 😂. Not to mention, those stores will do exclusive lunches of merchandise just for them. Something they do NOT do for other groups. They also play their ads more than anyone elses. Example of one of these... 'SubKShop'.
      They have shops like this ALL OVER the US and Europe. For the smaller companies, they simply make a deal with them to help them fund their business and ensure it's success in return for the unrivaled and nearly exclusive, at least when it comes to competitors that is. When it comes to the larger ones... well, that LITERALLY DOES Have to do with them having connections and making a deal. Lol which they DEFINITELY have. Specially in the west.... they are literally a western label!
      That's why Ateezs entire debute reality show thing took place in the west. Which, FYI, ALSO helped a whole lot. Lol You guys really need to understand something... "BIG"- Does NOT necessarily, or even commonly, mean "globally connected", "cheaters/have it easy", "more accessible to fans/more likely to have their groups gain fans", "have it easy/more likely to get a time slot at a show/event", and DEFINITELY not "rich".... It JUST MEANS been around a long time, debuted a lot of groups, figured our how to do it properly in a way they call their signature, and thus have the most groups"....
      Meanwhile, 'SMALL'- DOES NOT inherently mean "Void of publics attention", "Lacking Promotion", "lacking funds" (there are MANY small comapn6 groups who debuted at a $$ MUCH larger than big company groups. In fact, it's just as common as the opposite is), "without connections", "likely to fail" or anything else. At thenend of the day, small companies are just that. They only have 1 or 2 groups amd are newish. That's all it means. International fans don't care what size company you are from, and they aren't financially restricted unless they didn't plan well enough.
      If that's the case, it's their groups fault for signing with them. No one made any of those groups sign with a small company. They choose to. Many of which because they themselves failed to get into a big comapany or because they didn't want to have to fight for their position in the next group every single month. Meanwhile, I have seen Big3 groups debut on their own efforts and have to earn absolutely everything themselves, habing to hit the ground running, even having a relatively large group living in a tiny 2 bedroom for many years. No different than the path of countless small comapany groups, only sometimes even harder.
      The difference is, everyone will still act as theough a group like that must have the the world was handed to them, and have INSANE expectations put on them, with everyone hoping for their failure, and acting as if they didn't do, or even have, anything deserving of such a 'GREAT OPPORTUNITY"... Basically, what im trying to say is, big or small, it truly doesn't matter. The ONLY reason that up until recentlyz the ONLY grouos that ever acheived highly were from a big label, is actually quite simple. Those labels have perfected what people what in a group. It's NOT all about talent. Yes, talent IS very important, but...
      So is the idols also having to have the PERFECT personalities you have to be able to fall in love with EVERY MEMEBER in a group, they have to have a great relationship, they have to love doing their job which means the need to have great work ethic so that you don't have to force them to, they must be EASY to fall in love with, they must all together from a cohesive group, at the very least, having a member who holds a high level of talent/skill in at least one area, they must be charismatic, they must be GOOD and HUMBLE, tbey must have a spotless record, and these days they REALLY REALLY need to have a substantial amount of creative input into their careers. They have perfected the groups, and people are naturally drawn to them. It's honestly as simple as that.

  • @jakeyjakeybeefjerky
    @jakeyjakeybeefjerky Месяц назад +236

    "why was magnetic nominated?" funny how people will do and say anything to convince themselves. magnetic was so insanely popular it kind of went outside of kpop. but the big3 fans love denying it cuz their favs didn't get a nomination

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +52

      They should quit gate keeping their favs and actually put in the work to help promote them

    • @iraanne
      @iraanne Месяц назад +14

      True. I dont really pay attention to cutesy song since Twice, but Magnetic reached me n stay in my playlist. I dont even know who Illit is that time. That song deserves something for sure

    • @tinkyy.97
      @tinkyy.97 Месяц назад

      Magnetic didn't get nominated! They just sent nominations but grammys eliminated!

    • @Itsmysecret17
      @Itsmysecret17 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@tinkyy.97 BILLBOARD ISN'T GRAMMY'S!! WHAT'S NOT CLICKING SIS

    • @tinkyy.97
      @tinkyy.97 Месяц назад

      @@Itsmysecret17
      The commentor said magnetic is nominated for grammys! No kpop songs got nominated this year!!!
      They just sent nomination but they rejected
      The only grp got nominations in history is bts!

  • @Molly-iw1rc
    @Molly-iw1rc Месяц назад +47

    Hybe literally debuted the first actual Western 'kpop' group SUCCESSFULLY. People are so dense I swear. You can accuse them of paying for promotion, having an upper hand in the industry, not caring about the well beign of their groups etc. BUT you cannot deny how popular the groups are. I used to be into enhypen and now I'm not, but I still see their fans everywhere in the U.S., same with TXT, same with people listening to ILLIT. I personally love TXT and LESSERAFIM's music.
    Anyways kpop stans are being delusional again I guess.

  • @mariamghani9421
    @mariamghani9421 Месяц назад +88

    hybe groups are THE standard right now. hybe has cracked the code and the hybe groups simply have what it takes to make it locally and globally. I mean, which other company is managing all the new and old groups simultaneously and to have almost ALL of them making it? getting awarded and nominated left n right? the 'top 3' can't even do it with one group. the recent mama awards are a glaring example of it. none of the hybe groups went empty handed, all those that attended got their award and showed through their performances why they deserved it. so much so that mama had to take out 'perfect night' and lsf out of the equation to keep sm happy and for aespa to win, lol.

    • @WonieBearAdventures
      @WonieBearAdventures Месяц назад +1

      True!

    • @splendore.ngrandeur3599
      @splendore.ngrandeur3599 Месяц назад +7

      The success is why a lot of people joined the Hybe hate wagon 😅😂. HYBE NEVER DIE 😅

    • @mariamghani9421
      @mariamghani9421 Месяц назад +4

      @@splendore.ngrandeur3599 absolutely! hybe must be doing something right if they're getting hated on so openly and so consistently

    • @NeerajKumar-ju2vg
      @NeerajKumar-ju2vg Месяц назад +8

      le sserfaim actually deserved the choreograhy award frr

    • @mariamghani9421
      @mariamghani9421 Месяц назад +4

      @@NeerajKumar-ju2vg oh absolutely! they should've atleast gotten three but oh well. mama had to keep sm happy, lol.

  • @hlubvaj5758
    @hlubvaj5758 Месяц назад +8

    The thing with HYBE is their music is not just one sound like YG or JYP. Every YG songs has the same concept. Same rap sound, same vocal sounds that anyone is their company can sing and you wouldn't know the difference. With HYBE, everyone sounds differently in their own unique way. You never hear someone says, it's HYBE's formula, or they sound the same as so and so. That's what I love about it.

  • @Biirrrrrrrrr
    @Biirrrrrrrrr Месяц назад +248

    listen I might not be the biggest HYBE fan but EVERYONE knows that HYBE groups are literally are going crazy in the west lol. HYBE has some of the biggest kpop group in general but also the biggest in the west.

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +52

      @@Biirrrrrrrrr exactly like?!! It’s like common sense, I fear

    • @morningglory8720
      @morningglory8720 Месяц назад +23

      I seriously think people just jump on a word without even thinking what it means . The term payola stated in the 1950s when someone would either give gifts or pay money for an orchestra or radio disk jokey to play their music on the radio . So, in them terms, it's not only disrespectful to hybe and its aritsts, it's disrespectful to the American music industry as a whole !! I think they blame hybe for their own incompetence in supporting their favs through digital sales ,physical albums, sales , streams , social media platforms. and touring . Cause obviously payola doesn't cover them, does it !! common sense I don't think they know what that means either unfortunately.

    • @Лена-р6я3и
      @Лена-р6я3и Месяц назад

      Who is going crazy apart of bts and some of bts members? 😂 You are so funny, hybe fanatic. Usa dgaf about non english songs and groups with many members.

    • @morningglory8720
      @morningglory8720 Месяц назад +22

      @@Лена-р6я3и I got the hybe fanatic bit ( typical response 🙄 ) but do you care to explain about straykids and atzee then ??? They have many members and have been nominated for none English songs ??

    • @Лена-р6я3и
      @Лена-р6я3и Месяц назад

      @@morningglory8720 in kpop categories. But even Bts members with english songs still being pushed in kpop noms. So, what craze are you talking about if even Bts are disrespected?

  • @nctzenshanaz
    @nctzenshanaz Месяц назад +18

    Its not only about the talent but the way of promotion hybe is specifically very good at international promotions which is why it makes sense that most hybe groups are nominated for the bbmas.

  • @rosebooysen1693
    @rosebooysen1693 Месяц назад +76

    Illit is product of the more you hate the more I'll succeed🤣
    Their popularity in america has increased thanks to mama not wanting to give them soty but rather sends them to america 🤣

    • @mamejoe2043
      @mamejoe2043 Месяц назад +9

      I love you for this

    • @rosebooysen1693
      @rosebooysen1693 Месяц назад +23

      @mamejoe2043 I literally saw a tick-tock after illit winning and American store started playing ticktack 🤣like haters are self promoting illit music

    • @mariamghani9421
      @mariamghani9421 Месяц назад +16

      we have them to thank for bec they be watching their videos and promos without skipping to find anything to hate on so it's really all them 💀

    • @sylvia-r7
      @sylvia-r7 Месяц назад +2

      Right?😂

    • @petesebastian855
      @petesebastian855 Месяц назад +5

      Publicity whether good or bad helps with the popularity. Illit deserves all their success;

  • @hpjk7
    @hpjk7 Месяц назад +125

    Hybe knows internatinal market very well they arent like other big 3 who only know mediaplay and generating hate trains towards rising artist....kpopies who learnt payola word are one of the big 3 stans they're mad cus their favs arent able to do internationally well....

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +22

      In that case, they should also use payola to promote their favs 💀

    • @jenniferhearn4117
      @jenniferhearn4117 Месяц назад

      What a load of crap Ever heard of Straykids who have 4 nominations

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +29

      @@jenniferhearn4117 no one is accusing skz of payola…and neither were they mentioned…

    • @mamaocillian
      @mamaocillian Месяц назад +7

      *cough***SM***cough

    • @7vt8td
      @7vt8td Месяц назад

      ​They were indirectly mentioned they are a group from JYP who is a part of BIG3.​@@rosescrib

  • @ayesha7215
    @ayesha7215 Месяц назад +60

    Hate hybe how much you want but their groups are huge internationaly and hybe knows exactly how to target international audience better ❤
    Name one idol in the nominees who doesn't deserve that , they all had great yearly streams and album sales 😅
    Also realy happy for ateez and skz tgey were robbed at mama alongside enha

  • @ConfusedBlueMackerel-tl4hh
    @ConfusedBlueMackerel-tl4hh Месяц назад +37

    Bts are the most awarded artist ever with more than 1400 awards..they even got the best and most popular artist of this whole century...
    Accept it as soon as possible...bts paved the way...hybe wont have any downfall until they have bts, svt ,enhypen, txt ,liserrafirm, and now even katseye...too..the overall artist are vey talented...has yg swag and sm vocal and jyp dancing skill and hybe stage presence for all boy groups...while the girl group might lack in vocal...but nowadays noone wants perfection...just improvement and being real and retable while with good music is necessary...the girls all have addictive music while them being real not fake in front of camera...hybe success is huge...they took time over yrs...from 2013 to here 2024... and the legacy will go on...
    Even now their newly debuted group katseye took mama by slaying whole performance...

  • @2Bad4Youu
    @2Bad4Youu Месяц назад +8

    Maturity is realising that no K-pop company, including HYBE, is perfect-but recent controversies have shown HYBE and its artists have been unfairly dragged into situations where the actual culprits are far from innocent. The so-called victims, including MHJ, have a track record of arrogance and problematic behaviour, yet their fans, "Bunnies," and certain media outlets continue to fuel a hate train against HYBE and their other idol groups to deflect from their own misdeeds.
    Yes, people accuse other HYBE girl groups of lip-syncing-and it’s true. But let’s not pretend NewJeans doesn’t do the same. Lip-syncing isn’t exclusive to one group; it’s about how often and why. Idols aren’t machines. They get sick, they’re overworked, and they travel constantly. Expecting them to always perform live at 100% is unrealistic.
    Also, the hypocrisy becomes even clearer when we consider how other groups have been relentlessly harassed by Bunnies throughout the year. Despite enduring constant abuse, not one member of these groups has come forward to claim victimhood or accuse others of bullying. Instead, they’ve handled the hate with maturity and tolerance. Compare this to “the so-called victim,” who has repeatedly leaned into the victim narrative rather than addressing matters with dignity or accountability. Where is the evidence of the supposed bullying HYBE has subjected them to? It remains elusive, yet the accusations persist.
    Despite obvious signs of over-entitlement and rudeness, Bunnies continue to defend Newjeans as innocent victims. Instead of blindly supporting them, ask yourself what leverage or tactics are being used behind the scenes. What power does MHJ wield that makes her idols follow her plans without question? Ignoring her history of harmful actions and choosing to protect her isn’t just naive-it’s VERY dangerous. This isn’t about siding with a "billion dollar corporation", it’s about standing for truth and accountability.
    It’s also noticeable how Bunnies and pro-MHJ channels conveniently go silent whenever more damning evidence surfaces about her misconduct. It’s as if they retreat to let her lawsuits dominate headlines and shift the narrative. But when HYBE is under fire, these same people are suddenly hyperactive, flooding social media with anti-HYBE content. The hypocrisy and media manipulation are glaringly obvious.
    The truth will come out, and I hope MHJ faces the consequences of her actions. She’s done enough damage than good to K-pop, and it’s time for accountability. Enough is enough.

  • @LalaH-23
    @LalaH-23 Месяц назад +17

    Don't they understand that the more popular any kpop group gets opens more doors for everyone else? The other groups and fans need to switch up their approach.

  • @Shinshien-cg5jb
    @Shinshien-cg5jb Месяц назад +35

    Big3 stans be like only big3 artists deserves achievements but not hybe's even if they deserves as if big3 company's aren't using the same tactics to make their artists big in west as hybe's 💀 befr

  • @minsugamaxsalt
    @minsugamaxsalt Месяц назад +41

    Other groups rarely make it to the HOT100, so it makes sense Illit (Magnetic) and Lesserafim got nominated! I’m an Army showing support; Congratulations girls. 💜🎉

  • @shami1675
    @shami1675 Месяц назад +34

    People are so envious

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +7

      @@shami1675 and it’s stupid 😭

  • @bardakta_corba
    @bardakta_corba Месяц назад +17

    "Hybe payola" as if hybe groups aren’t the only ones charting on billboard

  • @mamejoe2043
    @mamejoe2043 Месяц назад +30

    But come to think of it, Hybe groups grow like a baby , they take it step by step . One example is & Team, lsf, Enphen , and TXT they work really hard from they one . Look at Illit all they are doing is to w9rk hard,

  • @n8mare076
    @n8mare076 Месяц назад +62

    hybe artists are very talented and always put best stages , people are so crazy to criticize them for some singing clips ... it is not only about talents right , audience even need some entertainment too ...which hybe groups provide well , literally they are like social butterflies

  • @rosebooysen1693
    @rosebooysen1693 Месяц назад +40

    Hype releasing music that age like fine wine not some instant popular music with instant promotions

  • @Bangtanbell.7
    @Bangtanbell.7 Месяц назад +4

    You can't literally ignore the fact that Hybe is carrying the kpop's popularity globally. Every 5 person you ask stans a group from Hybe. Hybe has mastered the marketing strategy and audience. Each and every group is different from one another. They don't recycle same strategy like YG did with 2ne1, Blackpink and Babymon. The global group of Jyp "Vcha" failed, but in the same way "Katseye" of Hybe is dominating worldwide. Hybe's creativity and production is top notch.

  • @rayxmxs
    @rayxmxs Месяц назад +61

    The thing about HYBE is that they go outside the box. Unlike Big3

    • @bardakta_corba
      @bardakta_corba Месяц назад +34

      Big3 artists have solid fanbase in Asia but nothing more. Sm can't hold on a group bcz their fans are quick to forget old groups the second a new group dropped. Yg is recycling sounds and group concepts like there's no tomorrows. Jyp's artists stuck with the same number of fans since their debut ☠️

    • @BabyDanny_
      @BabyDanny_ Месяц назад +16

      @@bardakta_corba Despite me stanning groups from the Big 3 and Hybe, why was this description lowkey spot on?😭

    • @7vt8td
      @7vt8td Месяц назад +7

      ​@@bardakta_corbaoh darling I wish i could say its the fan but no it's SM forgetting the old artist look at red velvet and exo even shinee oh gosh

    • @tinkyy.97
      @tinkyy.97 Месяц назад +2

      If hybe's management was good! No other company can beat them! Why the heck they have trash management??? Treating their own idols worse??😭😭 I hate hybe's ceo

    • @bardakta_corba
      @bardakta_corba Месяц назад

      ​@@7vt8tdbut I think it has a reason that's how it goes at least from my pov. However I don't think sm is completely innocent

  • @R2Mw19
    @R2Mw19 Месяц назад +47

    TY! The jealousy and envy is crazy. They have to have some excuse I guess. Honestly in K-pop -victim- is the name of the game to fans. How can they twist checkable facts into victimization is amazing. Concerning, but amazing…. lol…

    • @eileencritchley4630
      @eileencritchley4630 Месяц назад +4

      Jealousy and envy will make them say anything it's the sign of weak and sick mindset they don't care about telling lies and spreading rumours it's sick just sick.

    • @R2Mw19
      @R2Mw19 Месяц назад +2

      @@eileencritchley4630 It really is. It is beyond concerning. The mental processing shown across comments is frightening. Add in the industry focusing(with fan support) and attracting pedo, psycho, abusing manipulators/ groomers on all levels and it’s a mess.

  • @marijkesanistam380
    @marijkesanistam380 Месяц назад +39

    The more the haters hate, the more Hybe become populair.
    Even in my small country you can hear BTS songs. Only BTS , not other Kpop songs. 🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷💜💜

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +16

      @@marijkesanistam380 even in my country…BTS is very popular

  • @foreverwereyoungarmy5657
    @foreverwereyoungarmy5657 Месяц назад +18

    I mean I really don't understand why ppl always accuse BTS members of payola & tell all the awards they earned are rigged & they don't deserve it. I mean BTS had biiiiig numbers even before they built hybe & now BTS solos have less views on yt is only bcz we don't stream that much on yt now, bcz yt shadowbanned BTS after PTD era, yt always cut tons of their views. I mean if u look at other k pop acts their songs have lots of views but not even 500k likes, bcz they use ads while BTS members had 3M views while 1M likes.... Does that really make sense??? Just 3M views for 1M likes???
    & BTS are so popular now bcz they worked hard too, members worked their bones out before they went to military to release the things they are releasing now. but when a BTS member/ BTS win an award now k poppies be saying 'they bought the award, they don't deserve it, they didn't work hard this year'. Are they stupid??? in voting we're known as last minute voting fandom for a long time now, & the thing is even the fans of grps who're under the same label as BTS accused hybe for buying the award..... like wtf?? Is hybe stupid to buy an award for a not active artist if one of their grps gonna win anyway??? & when BTS members do big numbers on spotify & other platforms they always accuse BTS , saying they use payola when literally ARMY is the biggest fandom in the world & we're known as streaming monsters

  • @pratikhyapattanaik
    @pratikhyapattanaik Месяц назад +84

    People can hate HYBE as much as they want but have to admit the artists are talented. BTS domination and contribution is not overhyped its the truth. Even after going solo jk or jimin are still a part of BTS their achievement also count in BTS success story. Whine about it no one cares. TXT have worked really hard and their talent has always been overlooked. Nomination in billboard is well deserved. Same goes with enhypen, they are constantly changing genres with eye catching choreos energetics perfonance and whatnot and with such a maasive fandom its not as shocking as some say. Le sserafim and illit sure they might lack some vocal skills, yes ur fav may have better voacl skills but their music is definitely addictive. I myslef not a fan of them byt found myself listening to them on loop. And seventeen, no matter how much anyone bash them they are one of the most talented, from music to choreo to performance they give their 100% in any of them. Music so good that people doubted if it was manmade. Poor woozi pd-nim had to clarify that no ai is involved in makong such masterpieces. Infact if they were not nominated i would have diubted the process. Man haters take a chill pill and enjoy the muaic instead of spreading bullshit.❤

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +13

      They all worked so freaking hard and people need to chill

    • @mamejoe2043
      @mamejoe2043 Месяц назад +11

      Hybe groups work really hard

    • @ritaxr1714
      @ritaxr1714 Месяц назад +1

      Svt are 2nd most successful bg now, their achievement are insane

  • @alesonu
    @alesonu Месяц назад +9

    People can be so stupid at times. Hybe has freaking 11 grps under their belt.
    Starting from:
    1) BTS
    2) SVT
    3) TXT
    4) En-Hyphen
    5) Le Sserafim
    6) Illit
    7) TWS
    8) Boy Next Door
    9) &Team
    10) Katseye
    11) Fromis_9
    And among them 6 of the team have been globally popular and have been selling in millions. They have been popular since forever. So, them having several nomination is normal. Not every grp that is popular in Korea is globally popular. So people really need to stop talking nonsense.

  • @trishabala9549
    @trishabala9549 Месяц назад +18

    Like seriously this hybe blame has become a trend nowadays
    I am not a huge fan of hybe but i love their artists
    And also hybe literally cannot pay billboards awards bruh seriously

  • @skyblue293wo
    @skyblue293wo Месяц назад +3

    It’s mostly aespa or baby monster stans that just learned what “payola” means and now they’re running away with it 😭

  • @jinroe9910
    @jinroe9910 Месяц назад +5

    The fact that that Jin travel here in USA just to perform one song that’s is Dedication some idol really big in SK only and when they don’t get recognition Internationally the fans get mad, like bro put effort to promote your group.

  • @anistardi
    @anistardi Месяц назад +8

    When BTS won their first award and Big Hit still a small company, kpop fans started to make slandering that Big Hit buy BTS album to boost the popularity. At that times Big Hit did not have money. Billboard also did not like foreign artist dominated Billboard Hot 100, so they change the rules twice after BTS dominated the number one on Billboard Hot 100. Spotify also did not like BTS dominated, they did several dirty act to BTS. RUclips also did dirty to BTS. But ARMY always find the way.

  • @Kookliet_and_jimeo
    @Kookliet_and_jimeo Месяц назад +9

    i mean its fair to me as mma is bsed on melon chart , bbma is based on billmord chart and you can tell the diffrence by looking at the nimenies for both award shows

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +6

      The fact that people literally think billboards is like mama is stupidly crazy to me 😭

  • @ikeuology
    @ikeuology Месяц назад +19

    I bet those who saying payola don’t even know what it actually mean 💀

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +11

      Real. They be acting like they’re the owners of the company and are professional critiques…what an embarrassment

    • @nikaywright
      @nikaywright Месяц назад +5

      The really don't, they just throw it out there😂😂

    • @chaettoss
      @chaettoss Месяц назад +2

      ​@@rosescrib REAL. LIKE, REMEMBER WHEN MONSTIEZ ACCUSED HYBE OF PAYING MNET TO LET ILLIT WIN OVER BM? I'M SORRY BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE BC MAGNETIC TRENDED WAYYY MORE THAN SHEESH. LIKE, OKAY MAYBE ILLIT CAN'T SING(THEY CAN), BUT WINS ARE BASED OFF OF HOW WELL THE SONG CHARTS, NOT HOW TALENTED THE GROUPS ARE. I SWEAR I GOT SO TIRED OF MONSTIEZ MAKING THOSE CRINGEY EDITS

  • @hoonicekingg
    @hoonicekingg Месяц назад +10

    "hybe paid mnet" like girll, did you have any proof?? 💀

  • @Enhypenenthuaist
    @Enhypenenthuaist Месяц назад +11

    You can critique hybe, but calling their groups payola is downright unfair.

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +5

      Everyone literally worked so hard for this. They be thinking these idols are lazy. 😭

  • @KantorSaja
    @KantorSaja Месяц назад +6

    Even more funny is the fact billboard is partnership with kakao not hybe 😂
    So yeah ofc kakao gonna let that happen 😂

  • @ArmantoAlex13
    @ArmantoAlex13 9 дней назад

    Jimin’s solo album was only released in mid-July - only 3 1/2 months before the awards nominations. Based on the trajectory of his album and WHO, if he’d had the same amount of tracking time as everyone else had, he would have gotten more nominations and won AT LEAST one award. He had only 0.3 radio play and Geffen F’d him around with album availability, which also affected his sales.
    The fact that he was even nominated with such a short period of tracking time, just demonstrates the impact of his album and WHO. No payola there!

  • @maxadamdor
    @maxadamdor 15 дней назад

    i swear every ktuber is obsessed with that photo of sunghoon in the thumbnail and im here for it (cuz same, its my wallpaper)

  • @exolentexo-l
    @exolentexo-l Месяц назад +25

    the intro pic broke me omg😭 and also not “expired teeth” lol
    imo tho idk why ppl are mad, like when artists work hard theyre gonna get nominated
    and hybe artists are so big in the west ofC theyre gonna get something
    its not “payola” its just working hard😤

    • @mamejoe2043
      @mamejoe2043 Месяц назад +2

      Girl she is mean and I love it 😂😂😂

  • @Itsmysecret17
    @Itsmysecret17 Месяц назад +2

    You know what???? You are literally one of the few kpop RUclipsrs who actually makes sense. Cos trust me it's frustrating when people say the dumbest shit with so much confidence

    • @Itsmysecret17
      @Itsmysecret17 Месяц назад

      And I love your replies.... No one spared😂

  • @adithyasunitha5370
    @adithyasunitha5370 Месяц назад +2

    I think Hybe broke the code to popularity in the west, they just to know what to do from their experience with BTS

  • @Yooniverse35
    @Yooniverse35 Месяц назад +4

    I love when k tubers pull receipts. Hope this reaches the deranged fans that need it

  • @Bloom_Jiya
    @Bloom_Jiya Месяц назад +5

    I despise HYBE but I ain't salty cuz certain artists couldn't get nominated lol. Also the paragraphs these delulu fans will give u in the name of "global achievement" is the funniest thing you'll read.

  • @lll.24601
    @lll.24601 Месяц назад +15

    Anyways vote for Ateez!!

  • @fakhriafarin
    @fakhriafarin Месяц назад

    this is called perfect balanced promotions.

  • @olilondonisclown
    @olilondonisclown Месяц назад +9

    Bruh i keep seeing videos like that hybe said " skz ugly" "babymonster untalented " " aespa unpopular " and blah blah...
    Like whats the source ????

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +9

      @@olilondonisclown they’re undefined creatures (to the people saying stupid stuff like that)

    • @sharonmartin-hy5ne
      @sharonmartin-hy5ne Месяц назад +11

      That disgusting min he Jin leaked an internal report that compiled negative and positive fan comments on groups for analysis and then tried to tell the sk government that hybe was bullying and saying mean things about other artists. It wasn’t hybe it was anti fan comments

    • @lovelyseo.18
      @lovelyseo.18 Месяц назад +6

      I thought I was the only one who finds them annoying. Lemme quote "I can feel your jealousy.. " Those ones with that particular lyric are the cringiest

    • @everythingnothing2978
      @everythingnothing2978 Месяц назад +3

      I mean it's true that hybe kinda just let the author comment vile things about other idols but how does this make other hybe idols bad? especially when hybe even let the author criticize their own idols

    • @olilondonisclown
      @olilondonisclown Месяц назад +2

      @@lovelyseo.18 lol ikr😭
      And the random edits of idol in bg

  • @ravenblog7
    @ravenblog7 Месяц назад +2

    I’m bts fan so maybe my comment is biased but hybe groups are much more popular in the west and their songs stream well. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. Yes the recent whole NJ bullshit may have affected hybe groups in South Korea but no one gives a sh!t about this in west. Anyone who thinks otherwise don’t even have to argue with hybe group fans. Just look at the numbers and compare with their groups

  • @splendore.ngrandeur3599
    @splendore.ngrandeur3599 Месяц назад

    Hybe success is the reason why a lot of people joined the Hybe hate wagon, hoping they crash and their faves can hopefully get recognition

  • @WonieBearAdventures
    @WonieBearAdventures Месяц назад +1

    Big3 stans are ridiculous 💀hybe groups are huge internationally and in korea cry sbout it just bc ur favs didn’t get nominated dosent mean hybe groups won't hybes bg are top notch wether i like it or not

  • @stargazing2628
    @stargazing2628 Месяц назад +1

    Jimin is Hemin fr fr.

  • @mysticalberry4736
    @mysticalberry4736 Месяц назад +1

    OHHH IF I COULD SEND THIS TO THOSE GOD AWFUL YG AND SM STANS THAT ALWAYS YAP ABOUT HYBE PAYOLA. (like how bout u stop yapping about hybe it's embarrassing)

  • @Cartoblate777
    @Cartoblate777 Месяц назад +18

    HYBE sucks but I mean theirs groups are ACTUALLY good and powerful....

    • @joyeetaghosh2209
      @joyeetaghosh2209 Месяц назад +3

      They know how to do things there gg might not be strong but they aren't bad and I don't understand when brs members solo get sucess first of all they are bts members and secondly army love all the members of bts

  • @forgedEnt
    @forgedEnt Месяц назад +3

    I'm happy that Ateez gets to go because this year ateez keep getting achievements on achievements.

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад

      Fr. They deserve all this!!!

  • @VerucaS9lt
    @VerucaS9lt Месяц назад +3

    SLOW CLAP 👏 👏 👏

  • @Rhae-s9f
    @Rhae-s9f Месяц назад +1

    Si quieres competir, apoya a tus idols, llorar o quejarse por lo que le pase a otros idols, no lo va a poner ahí 😂

  • @kanohane
    @kanohane Месяц назад

    Antis are so annoying...

  • @nessmayoucef1862
    @nessmayoucef1862 Месяц назад +8

    Im not fan of hybe
    The vocal in sm is better
    Rap is better in yg .
    but to be fair lately the best songs are made by hybe
    love it or hate it .
    The quality of song
    Word coreography composition is better by miles
    To be a lot clear
    In sm a lot of good vocalist in jyp too in yg a lot of good rappers and vocalist
    But the lyrics the music is weak the conception the coreography is weak
    Cimpared to hybe
    Look at bts ...txt ...even keeseerafim .with that vocal not good in off but their stage coreography artistic side are much better
    Look at aespa winning a lot of daesang but their performance in mama not interesting not that good even if they had a lot of good song this year
    Enhypen to me had a best years in term of growing
    Best song ...dance ...coreography ....albupn
    They work on themselves a lot but without win in shows in awards thats so sad wish they win they deserved it
    Txt seventeen illit to deserve after that hate train they did good job in mama LA they worked on themselves

    • @kpopme7327
      @kpopme7327 Месяц назад

      Omg,so real 🎀

    • @lighty2884
      @lighty2884 Месяц назад +12

      You were cooking until you said "BTS vocals are not that good" 💀 also TXT

    • @nessmayoucef1862
      @nessmayoucef1862 Месяц назад

      @@lighty2884 im an army and i Can Say that sm vocaliste are better than hybe idols
      Its not about BTS or txt or enhypen its on general they had thé best vocalists
      Because they had trai'ers that focus on vocal more than hybe do
      .i wish hybe train their vocalist like sm
      Look AT laseerafim send them to coaechilla for embarrasing them and their label by that vocal compare them with babymonster and aespa to sée thé différence
      BTS work soo hard on their vocal over thé years
      In. Thé past their rap Line were better than their vocal Line but JK jimin jin and v Worked soo hard on their vocals look AT JK highnotes now
      .i thé vocal technic need Time to learn
      Thé High notes too
      But hybe rush their idols to début without vocal training
      Idols of hybe have wonderful voices
      JK jimin and v and jin taehyun heesung Jay dk seugwhan joshwa jeonghan ...are soo good
      I like them will support them forever
      But sm vocalists are better because of their comptany focus on vocal rather dancing lessons
      High notes. technique of singing
      Some of them take six years like suho from exo ....etc
      Its a fact i Cant deny
      But in hybe WE have BTS vocal Line txt taehyun
      Enhypen heesung and Jay
      Seventeen vocal linev
      They will dominate thé World of K-pop hhh
      But girl groupe are weak .
      They focus on visuals and cute image and dancing
      Sm also lack coreography dance artistic and créativity in concept like hybe do its a fact they should from hybe how performance done its not singing alone

    • @Nen202
      @Nen202 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@nessmayoucef1862 I am Army..... yeah you are not deceiving anyone. Somehow the best vocals according to you never get anyone to listen to their music. Imagine claiming to have the best vocals but no one wants to listen to your best vocals. BTS has it all you cry scream and all but they have the streams and the awards to back them up.

    • @sylvia-r7
      @sylvia-r7 Месяц назад +10

      @@nessmayoucef1862girl we all know bts members ( vocalists) can all sing quit downplaying their abilities. You guys always use that excuse that sm has the best vocals to downplay bts. You state that as a fact but in reality it’s an opinion.

  • @TheBookishDane
    @TheBookishDane Месяц назад

    What does Payola mean exactly??

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +1

      @@TheBookishDane it’s when someone/company bribes a commercial radio station to play a particular song/songs so that it can be popular

  • @fatyfarrell
    @fatyfarrell Месяц назад

    Hybe groups are fine as long as they don't make them sing live!

  • @mata-jh9hi
    @mata-jh9hi Месяц назад +1

    A Naive and ill informed perspective. The music industry itself has been corrupt for many years. The idea that BB holds any significance to genuine music lovers is ludicrous and pathetic. It's a numbers game and numbers can be manipulated. The excessive streams these artists achieve due to excessive mixes makes the numbers quadruple. Let's not ignore the strange anomalies of streaming on Spotify, prompting Spotify to issue warnings of foul play and stiff punishment. Let's also not ignore all Scooter Artists that thrive on Spotify and BB due to Airplay and excessive playlist default settings. The Music Industry is all about WHO you know. Airplay in USA should not be a gauge. You can remain gullible but stop spreading BS because your bias makes you blind or are Hybe paying you.

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +7

      @@mata-jh9hi and your point is that all this artists didn’t work hard to get to this point?!?!

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +7

      @@mata-jh9hi and i know so fucking well that you’re saying this bullshit out of jealousy because your favs aren’t a part of the nominations. Fans are also out there repeatedly streaming their favs so what’s your point?!

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +7

      @@mata-jh9hi and ain’t no way I’m a company fan so don’t be stupid and make me that way. This is the problem with y’all, istg.and I also damn well that you won’t be saying all this nonsense if your faves were nominated. It’s like you’ve forgotten that all those groups have a massive international fan base. So shut your mouth if you don’t know anything because the jealousy is reeking

    • @Itsmysecret17
      @Itsmysecret17 Месяц назад

      Girl if hybe is paying her, they would have paid her for increasing her sub count and made her channel more reachable🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️she literally is giving her 2 cents and saying something which makes sense and here you are yapping and being dumb and asking IF SHE'S DUMB. god pathetic really pathetic

    • @Itsmysecret17
      @Itsmysecret17 Месяц назад

      If you hate it, you hate it. So move on. Go and stream y'all favs so they they can be there in bbma next year

  • @MariaTjg
    @MariaTjg Месяц назад +1

    Who cares 😂😂

    • @Arielaarmy-k7i
      @Arielaarmy-k7i Месяц назад +5

      Billions of people who streamed and bought albums🤪😜

    • @loveylunaa
      @loveylunaa Месяц назад +7

      Obviously you cause you clicked on the vid 😭

    • @rosescrib
      @rosescrib  Месяц назад +2

      @@MariaTjg you’re stupid then

    • @MariaTjg
      @MariaTjg Месяц назад

      @rosalinescrib8011 why you call me stupid bcs i have different opinion as you? then you're stupid too

    • @StanBTSLESSERAFIMILLITANDAESPA
      @StanBTSLESSERAFIMILLITANDAESPA Месяц назад

      You apparently