Cheap Repair of Bosch Neff Siemens Dishwasher Not Heating water Stays cold
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2019
- A low cost alternative to replacing the complete compact water heater Assembly is to change just the blown Stainless Element itself. The same heating element is used on Bosch, Neff , Siemens Hotpoint and many other brands. If you want and element then see listing on eBay search "BOSCH DISHWASHER INSTANT WATER HEATER ELEMENT 642870 STAINLESS STEEL"
Listed at cost + Handling. Sold not for profit. 
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This is a very nice demonstration of how to change this heating element. I really appreciate the details on how to do this properly. Thank you.
Glad you found it useful.
*Thanks so much.* I'm after sticking one in our DW and it works once again. Highly recommend people getting this. He is a pleasure to deal with.
Glad to help
Tony thanks to your excellent video & replacement element you sold me I was able to repair my perfectly good dishwasher for a small cost & avoid unnecessary replacement.
Once again, thanks , Jim R
You are welcome.
Great video! I had my inline heater off years ago when I tore the bottom components all apart to investigate why my washer wasn't finishing the cycle. I ended up needing a new circulator pump. I became very intrigued by this inline heater device you're repairing, and I researched what it does. The "sensor" part you mentioned not knowing exactly what it's for is designed to sense the amount of food particles that are suspended in the water being circulated through the machine. This is supplied with washers that have an "Optimizer" setting to cut the cycle short to save water and electricity when it senses the water is free of particles after a couple rinse cycles.
Thanks. It senses the position of the rotating disc that can shut off the water pressure to one or other of the sprayer arms. To boost the jet power and also allow top tray only operation.
On mine the heating element was fine, as was the thermistor. Only other suspect was the mechanical timer.
I opened the timer and found one contact to be blackened and sooty.
I located a new timer on eBay and just installed it.
I’m just finishing up the project and will be testing my dishwasher soon.
Bosch Model SHU3006UC.
Installed new in my new house back in 1997. Moved in and first used the machine in spring 1998.
The best dishwasher I’ve ever had.
I hope it lasts 25 more years.
Thank you for your videos. You helped me diagnose and fix my machine, for sure!
You are welcome.
Thanks for your masterful explanation video! I was curious of how the Bosch heater look/work inside the plastic casing and ended up learning lots from your master class! Keep up the cool work!
Thank for the comments. I am pleased you found it interesting.
Great video, really helpful info, I recently followed your guide for my Bosch. Everything was actually healthy, but I then traced the wire back to the main PCB and found one of the contact pins of heater relay had burned out. It's a standard relay, widely available, bought mine from RS for £1.63! Just thought I'd share for anyone in the same boat.
Keep up the good work MagicSmoke!
Good job. Pleased you found it useful.
@@razenbythanks bud. Whera can we get the heating element?
And, Mr. Smoke, I bought one of your (I presume) elements ex eBay to repair an 11-year-old Neff dishwasher, otherwise in good shape. The old element was spectacularly encrusted with scale. I veered from your method only a touch: I did cut off the defective element with an oscillating multi-tool, but knocked off the one-way clip retaining washers then tapped them into their new home. Probably a little looser than yours.
Anyway, although quite some work, I felt happy enough for the little victory and have you to thank for it. My wife was less than impressed at the time it took but dealt with the cost saving in time-honoured fashion. An overspend elsewhere. It's the small wins in life that make it worth the effort of breathing.
I kept pictures but nothing to do with them. Should be a site for small-win, big effect moments.
Hi David, thanks for the purchase. Good job. There are definitely more than one way to skin a cat!! I have come to realise that if you live in a hard water area then an empty hot-wash cycle with a cup of white vinegar every 6 weeks is a very good idea. Especially if you have one of the later pump/ heater modules with thin-film heating elements.
So clear and so precise. 10/10 thank you for a very clear explanation! Top engineer, nor many old school engineers about. Gold dust!! Where can we get the heating element please?
I got your element a few weeks ago and finally installed it today. Happy to report that my Bosch dishwasher is again churning away! Thanks! PS. Though I have enough experience, I did not apply my good sense and was not wearing gloves. I manage to slice the top of my finger on the metal ring where the drain rubber seal is. Totally my fault. Also, I was able to open the heater unit without removing it. Took an unreasonably long amount of time but with some little plastic square tabs and a long zip tie, I managed to unlock the tabs and remove the element. Again, thanks for making this available 👏👍👍👍👍
Good job. i did that once when I was in a hurry but my hands were sore afterwards. If they had put a couple of stainless screws in to secure the element it would make it a 5 minute job. Let's face it the element should be considered a consumable and be easily accessible and replaceable without creating a lot of other scrap parts. We get the satisfaction of making the dishwashers last longer but we don't make any money from the elements. I own a company that ships every day so they just pick them from the shelves and send.
great video help me figure out my heating element wasn't bad and it was a connection on the circuit board
Good to hear
This is a great video, full of useful information for when attempting this repair. I have removed the whole element part from my dishwasher.( that was fun!) but only just realised after looking at some other replies that the element itself is not a standard replacement part. Would like to order one from you if I can please, I have sent you an email request if you could look out for it. Jeremy
contact me at ark.mail@gmx.com if you would like one
Absolutely brilliant.
Mine isn't getting hot, and after spending all day fiddling with the control board, I now know that power IS heading down to the heater, so now to see what part of that isn't working.
This is great. Well explained, everything shown.
If mine needs an element, I know where to come - and if it doesn't - I have an idea what is inside anyway.
Thanks heaps!!!!
Oh - you mentioned that there is a sensor that you weren't sure what it was. On mine (SGS55M98AU76) that sensor is a "turbidity sensor" - which senses how dirty the water is so then senses how long/hot to wash on the "auto" setting........
Thanks again.
Thanks for the info. The elements are listed on eBay on a not for profit basis. As well as turbidity could sensor also detect the position of the upper lower spray arm blanking disc/ director. When you set to 'upper tray only', the controller needs to know when to stop the disc motor. Maybe the crafty devils use the sensor for both turbidity and flow control?
Thank you for your video's about the Bosch dishwasher. I was looking before, for my problem with it but I still don't understand: The programs ends most of the times with a error. Mostly E7 and sometimes E9. Lots of time, the dishes is not clean(!) and a lot of times, the dishes is not dry. I thought, he didn't warm up but sometimes, it looks like the dishes are still a little warm.
And I have another really stupid thing with my machine: The functions of the right 3 buttons in front, controlls the signs of the left side, and vice-versa. I know, because when I touch the Variospeed button, the display says "24h" (exactly the button from 'the other side'). I tried to dismantle the door to easily change out the wires on the PCB but I couldn't because of the prefab plugs. It didn't fit the other way around.
So I have a question: All these problems, can they also be the result of a kind of mainboard or motherboard failure or something? Don't know much about dishwashers (thats clear wit a machine like mine ;) ) but I would like to try to fix it though but changing parts out, not knowing if they are broken, is maybe wasting money.
Thank you very much. Hope to hear from you.
The fist thing to do is disconnect the power and remove the LHS side cover. Then clean check the float assembly and level pressure bellows. This the most common cause of problems. Once the water level sensing is working it should be OK.
Brilliant video. Thank you.
You are welcome.
@magicsmoke, great video and has given me the confidence to fix myself. I appreciate e-bay made a mess of things so I'm not sure if you still sell the parts or not. If not can you point me in the right direction as most of the elements I see don't look anything like what you show. Really don't want to throw a great machine away if I can fix it.
Great video, I wish I had found this a few years ago. Looked everywhere to find a replacement element but no luck - looks like you are out now (no luck searching ebay). Do you know where to get any more?
Thanks for this tutorial and thanks for selling these heating elements on the bay. I am about to fit the heater. What is the brown greasy stuff between the black rubber and the white cover? Can I clean it up and replace it with silicone grease?
No problem. yes use some new grease if you like. Silicone is a good choice.
I fitted your new heating element on a 13 year old BOSCH SRS55C02GB/01. This is a slimline model and wasn't heating any more, but not tripping. I found it tricky to disconnect the heating assembly from the pump assembly but I could still prise out the white heating element holder with blunt screwdrivers. The new heating element has the exact dimensions of the old one. I replaced the thermistor at the same time. Initially the old heating element tested OK while installed (the water was drained), but when I got it out I saw white corrosion. When I put the element in pan with water at ~100°C it measured a resistance of 800 kOhm between Live and earth. Just to say that you can be deceived in measuring resistance sometimes and then you look at other possible causes for a failure to heat (thermistor, relay switch, controller board). The other thing I found was that some of the pipes were clogged up with gunk so I had to spend time cleaning them up. My dishwasher now works and smells like a new! one It's a worthwhile thing to do if you have time, interest and some mechanical skills.
Hi great video. Shocking how manufacturers make repairs difficult and parts only available as expensive assemblies. As others have asked - do you have any stock of the elements,or would you consider sourcing more soon, given there seems to be some demand? If you could let me know ASAP please - wife is keen to spend £500 on new one washer after a couple of days since it broke! If not, could you advise if worth repairing an 18 year old Bosch Excel machine with the c.£100 oem part? Thanks
I'll have a look we have a few left found down the back of the picking rack.
Great Video. I had just disassembled to heater element when I found it. The heater element itself is working, I tested it off the machine. But the dishwasher isn't heating or finishing its cycle. You mention testing the thermostat but I couldn't find that video. Other thought would be the PCB. The tablet door hasn't opened for a few years despite the door being replaced. So I think the PCB is probably due for replacement. I would like to test the thermostat first. Did you ever put that video up?
Thanks in advance
Apparently not. sorry. I made it so will look for it and upload.
I found the video and uploaded to RUclips today
@@razenby thanks again for another very helpful video. Meanwhile I had completely stripped down the whole component, cleaned it and put it back together, along with every other part of the dishwasher. I also dismantled to check the little servo motor on top of the heater assembly and reassembled it. A little trick there if you don't correctly engage the cogs it will get stuck, quite fiddly. I guess that is cycling water between the top and bottom shelves. Anyway now the dishwasher is heating properly and I now have two minor residual issues. The dispenser door doesn't open despite being replaced and the cycle never finishes. Both of which point to the main circuit board. I did find another video suggesting repairs might be needed there, re soldering. Will try that before replacing it. Both have work arounds though, put the tablet in after about 30 minutes and switch it off when the end light comes on. Not ideal by at least it is working.
Thanks again
Hello .. I require a new heater element and thermistor exactly like in your tutorial .. can you help ?
Robin
Thank you for the tutorial and supplying the heating element. I managed to change the heating element and the dishwasher was working fine for a few days but has stopped heating the water again. Any ideas on what could be causing this and any suggestions on anything else I can try would be much appreciated before I buy a new dishwasher. Many Thanks.
Check the connections on the heating element and the thermostat are attached and tight. It could be a faulty element but it would be the first one. When the machine is cold there should be continuity across the thermostat contacts. Sometimes when the element fails it can damage the thermostat.
@@razenby I checked the connections and they were all on and tight, however the push on washers were a little loose as the diameter of the replacement heating element is slightly smaller than the original. I reduced the gaps on the washers so they fit on a bit tighter but still no luck with heating the water. Do they have to be on really tight for it to work? If it worked for a few days after I changed the heating element that would mean the thermostat was still working unless it has subsequently failed. I have been unable to test the thermostat as I don't have a multi-meter.
Hi Tony, are you still selling the replacement heating elements, dishwasher has started tripping again
Hi A great video very clear and precise. I need help with a machine. it is a bosch and at the end of the cycle it gives a E04 error. it appears to let water in and pump water out. it all appears to be working apart from the water is not getting hot. the machine gets a little bit of heat when running, but the normal burst of heat when it finished is not present. everything i can find online says 04 water error, but this looks to be a heating problem. any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
E04 usually means that there is a lack of flow through the pump to the spray arms. Caused by blocked filter, debris blocking the spray arms (may have been run without the filter tray correctly positioned. Clean the filter, check the spray arm jet holes are clear. Good luck.
@@razenby Thanks for the swift reply. it all appears to be ok. the fault only appears in the last few seconds of the program. By filter you mean the food filter inside the machine. I cleaned the filter inside the aquastop system. would this fault also stop the water from heating?
Thanks for this great idea, how do you test the unit and thermostat. When I do the ground leak test as per your video I get my multi meter stays on 1 and when I do the element test as per the video I get 0.23 is the correct? And how can I test the thermostat?
Can you do a video on fixing the control panel
see ruclips.net/video/BK9RVGy4MX0/видео.html for the thermostat. Element should be about 25 to 35 ohms.
@@razenby thank you so much for the video when I test the right side of the thermostat I get 18.3 in the 60°c water. If I put it in kettle water and put it on beep it doesn't turn off dose that mean the thermostat is knackered and will that have caused other issues if the heating was not turning off at 85° because of the thermostat
Thank you for your video!!! do you still have those elements? I don’t seem to find it on ebay. Thanks
No problem. I don't at the moment. I am awaiting stock. I got fed up of selling them on eBay and having twits who couldn't be bothered to check that the element was the one for their machine have ordered the wrong thing complaining that we had sent the wrong element and then eBay summarily refunding them. No good deed goes unpunished... eBay now assure me that they have mended their ways. We will see!!
I think the photo-electric flow sensor actually measures if the water is running clear to decide whether to add clean water or to recirculate existing water?
You may well be correct. I have seen it called a Turbidity sensor. If the sensor has dropped out it the 'Top Basket Only' mode stops working. So maybe it serves a dual purpose?
Excellent tutorial. But where do you get the element from? All I can find are suppliers of the whole heater assembly
I have them in stock if you want one £12.50 + Shipping. They are very high quality stainless. Email ark.mail@gmx.com
@@razenby you are a brilliant guy. I so agree with your philosophy about planned obsolescence, wastage and rip offs. I have one of these Bosch dishwashers, 10 years old and it's probably just a matter of time before the heater goes. I will email you for a quote.
@@razenby What is shipping to USA and price in U.S. dollars, please?
Thank you for a great, insightful video. In my case the element resistance measures 22 Ohm but the machine does not heat the water from my spot checks. Would you suggest the thermostat to be the problem? Thank you in advance.
The thermal cut-out switch in the video is a safety device to stop the water boiling if there is a heating fault. Yes, it could be the thermal cut-out, the flow switch (assuming you have flow) , the heater control relay or even perhaps the temperature sensing thermistor. The latter is much less common. If the controller thinks the water s hot it wont turn on the heater, Have a careful look at the spade terminals in the heater wiring including all the hose power connections to the controller. Look for signs of overheating, discoloration, charring etc. Both the flow switch and the thermal cut-out can easily be checked with a continuity meter. That's it - good luck.
Found your thermostat video and will check that out. Thank you very much
@@razenby Thank you very much. I will follow your advice. Appreciated.
Hello Sir. Is any chance order straight from you one of this heating element please 🙏
That green colored sensor is not a flow sensor. It is a "turbidity" sensor that shines an infrared light through the water as the pump circulates. If the water has a lot of particles in it, the sensor tells the dishwasher controller to extend the cycle until the water is clear. The sensor is not installed in the base models of dishwater.
It is dual purpose: As well as turbidity could sensor also detect the position of the upper lower spray arm blanking disc/ director. When you set to 'upper tray only', the controller needs to know when to stop the disc motor. Maybe the crafty devils use the sensor for both turbidity and flow control?
25 ohm heater resistance. Thanks a lot.
No problem.
How many watts is the element and are they still available somewhere? Thanks a lot for this video, you can tell right away you're a master craftsman!
1800 Watts. Out of stock for four weeks. More on the way.
Tonight my slimline DW didnt get hot. Just watched this and I'm inspired to replace the element myself. Cant think it's anything else tbh. Seen most of the recent posts about availability which happens, but how can I get hold of the element? When will you have them in, any ideas? really appreciate the video and any help you could extend. thanks
I have one or two left if you need one let me know. I use to sell them on eBay but eBay and got great feedback but the more eBay tries to Amazon the more they fail.
@@razenby thanks for the reply, I tried and failed to get to the part so just bought a new washer, thanks again
Great video, thank you! I can't seem to find the element on eBay, can you help? Thanks!
I don't have any elements in stock at the moment. I sold a lot at near cost but got fed up with eBay just refunding people because they received the element and found that they had ordered completely the wrong part. In this situation I never received the refunded elements back. eBay ruined it as they are trying to offer the same level of customer service as Amazon but they have absolved the customer of any responsibility to hold up their end of the bargain. The supplier is expected to pay for it.
Nice video thanx a lot. However I need the seal itself since it leaks. Any idea where to find it?
No sorry.
Hi, great video. Can you tell me where to get just the element on its own. I've looked everywhere!
I have to order some more. The 1K pieces I bought all sold then the pandemic came along.
OK thank you.
Hi there. Firstly great video. I am about to strip down my Siemens DW to extract this assembly. I expect to find that I have a path to earth from the element once I check with my meter as it is tripping the RCD during the wash cycle. Once I have the offending item on the bench I will order one from you via email. Thanks again, Ian
Good luck.
@@razenby I solved the issue in the end...I replaced the element but was still getting the same fault - RCD tripping half way through the wash cycle, and actually the element I took out seemed to test out okay. In the end I changed the incoming breaker/RCD assembly, and the problem was solved!
@@ianshorthose5041 Oh that is bad luck. I forget to mention RCD failure. Sometimes some other piece of equipment is leaking a bit to ground and another appliance can take it over the limit and trip it. I guess they do get tired. Thanks for the insight.
WHERE CAN i BUY THIS ELEMENT ONLY. MOST COMPANIES SEEM TO SELL THE COMPLETE UNIT ONLY.
Looked At this desperation to fix m y7 year old bocsh but after strippingit down theheati unit is round motor like type priced at 140 quid :do you have a hack for the other type ? many thanks for you videos.
I agree it is bullshit, What is the diameter and height of your element? the cylinder. Some are available.
Brilliant video, well explained and using proper terminology.. Neat trick re cutting the old element to get the spire clips off without annihilating them. Not fully looked into the spares situation for my Neff DW as not sure what is actually wrong yet but failing to prepare ie looking at your video is preparing to fail... ie buying the whole damn unit.. Good work but please give the end of your tube of silicone grease a wipe... too messy imho..
Thanks. All my tubes are a bit messy""
How do you check with multimeter the 4 pin thermistor ? at room temp on mine only the left couple of pins has continuity
Just added a new video in this playlist for testing the NTC thermistor
Hi, I can't find the heater element part on itsown anywhere, do you still have any in stock?
Paul you still nee done?
Can you still supply these heating elements?
HI there. It looks like my element has gone (measuring about 1.2MΩ across it). Do you still have spare elements?
Yes they are sold on eBay but better hurry as we only have a few left in stock.
Hi great video , I have had this issue with Rcd tripping seems to do it 1/2 -3/4 way through cycle. So think it’s heating element, however also had red tap light come on and brush light seems to be trying to drain water? So think I need to do element but didn’t want to do this if something else could be faulty? May require an element from you , but be interested to know your thoughts on the other issues, when cleaning I did find a piece of glass in bottom of drain close to propeller drain? Please let me know your thoughts
Thanks. Difficult to say. Do you own a multi meter? Have a look in the base to see if any water is there indicating a pump leak. If you do the reset using the front panel the reset it should drain any water in the unit. You can check see if there is any problem or blockage with the drain pump. I usually put a hose don the end of the drain pipe to see if the water is freely flowing back into the machine. If you do NOT have an RCD in your house consumer panel then a ground short can occasionally take out the thermostat (see video - sues switch contacts) or the Heater relay. With No RCD is its a short to chassis earth that blows the MCB out at a much higher fault current (25A) instead of the 20mA with the RCD, If you disconnect and the heating element and tape up the wires then the DW should run for a while. Older ones just run and run because the target temp isn't reached. the later smarter ones should a heater error. You can get a good idea if everything is working except the heating circuit, then you can concentrate on that.
@@razenby hi yes got a multi meter be it a cheap one, but not very experienced at using it ! Will pull it out and check if any water there , can disconnect electric plugs to heater element and then start machine on quick cycle to see if all other aspects of the machine are working, if completes cycle then presume all ok expect heater element? Then concentrate on replacing it?
Is that what you would recommend? Thanks
@@matthewmott8966 Either the machine will run and run forever or it will report an error if there is no heating. Depends on age and model. But you can tell if the water filling, draining and circulation pump is working.
Have pulled out the integrated machine and removed both side panels and found water in the base of it ? What does this mean ? Presume this is what is causing the RCD to trip , is this now a diy job or call out an engineer? Or ditch it as a heavy used machine 11 years old ? Thanks
@@matthewmott8966 Matthew. Impossible to say. It could cause a trip but the float protector should prevent the water getting to sufficient depth to reach the wiring. Best drain it out. Dry it by blowing a heater through and connect to the hoze whilst on the bench. It could be a simple leak or dislodged pipe or the pump seal. Locate the source,
Thankyou for this video. You seem to have outlined the symptoms of my dishwasher problems. Are these elements still available? I followed your instructions and copied and pasted the search term into EBay, but it's not returning me the same element you have in your video. Thanks again!
I think I have a couple left. I didn't restock during the pandemic due to production problems in Italy. I will look at getting more.
@@razenby thanks for the reply. I sent you an email about this. Hope you can help.
@@razenby Hi, is your contact still
@@CaptainKaneko Yes
Amazing video! And so well explained in detail, step by step. Unfortunately I couldn't find the heating element on eBay. Do you still have some in stock? greetings, Jan
Hello, I have ordered anothe 500 more but they are taking time. Everything is slower at the moment.
@@razenby OK. Thank you. I just found out that my thermostat is broken as well. I found a secondhand complete water heater for under 50euro (incl shipping) with a 3 month warranty. And I need my dishwasher asap. :-) . So I'll try that one first. Thanks again for the great video.
@@ajeto4231 You are welcome. Good luck.
Thank you so much for this very useful! I was getting the E15 and then tripping out my fuse board. I’ve managed to fix (I think) the E15 error but now no hot water and the E09 error? Any thoughts? Might it be a lose connection or is it a new element?
Probably the element. If you have a multimeter then with the washer disconnected from the power, check accross the element connections on the Ohms (resistance range) It should read a few tens of ohms (20 to 30 ohms). If you are aware of the risks then run the unit with the side removed on a hot cycle. After about 10 to 15 minutes the immersion heater should switch on and you will read mains voltage across the element. If you don't get that then it could be the thermostat, 10% of the time the thermostat gets blown up when the element goes short. usually the element sorts it. I have stock.
Magic Smoke that you very much I will do some more investigation. Happy Christmas 🎄 🎅🌲👍👊👌
Sir, please show me the pressure switch how to check whether it is in the open condition or the close when we check in the continuity
The contacts to the heater should be normally open (no continuity) when the pump is not running. When the pump is running the contacts close and will measure continuity.
Have checked across heater element and reading is 25.
Between earth and element is zero. Does this mean the heater element is working normally ?
There should be no connection between the element contacts on the end and the metal tube of the heater. If you see a connection then the heater has failed. The 25 ohms between the end contacts is about what should be expected.
Hello, Is this part still available on eBay as I can’t find it using your link details ? Thanks.
No, sorry. I sold thousands at £12 which was cost plus handling and shipping. Every time some berk claimed it was faulty because they ordered the wrong one eBay would refund them without asking them to return the element. Then I saw someone who had been refunded selling it on eBay. They even cut and pasted my listing. I wasn't willing to play eBay's game so I don't sell them anymore. Just goes to prove that all good deeds don't go unpunished.
Hi I have a Siemens dishwasher model se242oogb/07 and is not heating up fully, so not cleaning properly. Do I need to change the element and temperature thermostat while I have the heating element out? And can you supply the parts. Many thanks
Does the heater heat at all? If the water gets warm but not fully up to temperature the fault is usually caused by the thermostat. Generally the heating elements work OK or they don't. Check the flow switch is closing when the pump is running. The usual failure mode. of the heating element is electrical short or leakage t ground. I don't have elements for Siemens. I have never seen an open circuit one.
Yes the water gets warm but not hot.
that new element looks like an miele element but shorter , can you tell me where you have it from ? thank you
I drew up and specified this part based on the original part. had it made at a Chinese manufacturing partner that I used for a in-process heater design that I did years ago. If there is a market I can draw up the Miela one and get some made. Need an original one. The tooling was funded by income from the channel.
Magic Smoke I would like to purchase one of these elements from you if possible. My e-mail address is iclarke@rockelectronics.co.uk Your kind help in this matter would be appreciated. Regards Ian.
Hi, I called Bosch. I have an Error 09 on a Siemens SN25M230UK/01 purchased in 2010 . I wanted to know what were the cause besides the Heat Circulating pump. Bosch were not much help . Bosch Customer Service say these dishwashers are design to last 5 to 6 years. Only !
My Bosch Exxccel dishwasher is 14 years old and going strong.
Mine is something 16 years old. Only used on fast cycle though and did burn out its main board a year or so ago. Shame about heating elements would you consider having them remanufactured and selling on Amazon for double perhaps. Amazon will handle returns and drop ship also
@@gauravvij67 I replaced the Heat Circulating Pump. All the wiring had to be changed as well. The replacement pump is different to the existing pump and needs to be re-wired. This was two years ago.
Why not just swap the cold in for hot in? I did this for a dishwasher once, didn't seem to make a difference.
My current dishwasher tripped the RCD last night, but today I ran it and it hasn't tripped the RCD. Does that mean the elements is gone?
Usually cause is the Element but the soap dish actuator or the Mains input filter module are occasional culprits for this too
Hi. How can I get in touch to order a replacement element ? I tried the earlier published email but no success
Hi Doug, I have been away for a while. I am out of stock and am waiting for the new order to arrive. I will list them when they are here.
can you tell - what is wattage of the replacement heater and what is flow rate handelded by motor ?
1800w I have no idea what the flow rate is.
@@razenby thanks...
Hi, I’m after an element, where do I purchase one from? Thanks Steve
Steve, I am out of stock. I have ordered some. Which voltage do you need?
Hi , I have Bosch integrated unit same set up. No voltage to element . Unit running cold and cycle keeps running. Is it fed from main pcb? I work on commercial unit so not to familiar with domestic . Thanks
It could be the safety overheating switch open circuit. Check Thermistor, the relay on the controller, a bad connection on one of the spade terminals, or the flow microswitch not operation or open circuit. First check you have power reaching thermostat and then trace through to the flow switch. See ruclips.net/video/BK9RVGy4MX0/видео.html
Thank you . Where exactly is the the cut out switch ?
Hi, can you please let me know where I can buy a heating element.
Regards
Did you get an answer?
Hi, the video on the testing of thermo, where can I find it?
I will stick it up. Sorry I thought I had published it, It is in the can.
@@razenby I'm looking for this too and still can't find it!
@@thesushifiend I found it and uploaded it to the playlist today.
I’m so paranoid that my brand new Bosch will take a massive shit I’m learning to become a dish washer repair man now. Total bolucks right?
Spares are priced at gangster margins (~1000%). It causes landfill, pollution from mining / production and loss of employment for the local repair workforce. A disgrace to the planet.
I assume you didn't have a spare element Magic Smoke? I've not had a reply back and i had left you a couple messages, could you please let me know one way or the other please. thanks again.
no Joy?
I will look today. The storage unit has been filled from front to back by a helper. They are sorting it today.
Hi how can I buy the parts, you have an eBay account?
I can’t find anywhere to buy the element separate. Can you supply?
Hi ella, Yes I have them in stock, We ship every day.
Brilliant video, have you any elements left? I would like to order one please.
I will take a look - we have a few I found down the back of the storage rack.
@@razenby Hi, Thanks for your reply, how can i order 1 please?
@@TvBoxCompany Ill search one out and check it. We stopped selling on Ebay. As they say 'no good deed goes unpunished' We got fed up of incompetent people ordering the part and then claiming it was defective or did not fit description when in fact the fault on heir appliance was not down to the heater element. eBay just summarily refunded them for the element without any reference to us or inquiry or call for assistance from the buyer. They just told them you don't need tor return it. I understand that they have rowed back from this practice as sellers revolted. Apparently we were expected to add 10% to the sales price to cover these losses and in so doing forcing right-minded customers to subsidise the idiots. Please remember to like and subscribe.
@@razenby No need for eBay for me, if you can let me have your PayPal email address i can buy direct from you save giving eBay a penny, or any other payment method, just happy to get the part saving buying a complete part from bosch as dishwasher is quite old now, if you could let me know that would be great Thanks Magic Smoke
@@TvBoxCompany Ill wonder over to the office and take a look for you.
I cant find this listing on ebay do you still have them available?
Hi Jeff, I sold a couple of thousand on eBay for £10 each to help everyone save their appliances. I got fed up with eBay summarily refunding buyers who didn't bother to check the element was compatible with their unit without the item being returned. eBay is trying to offer the same buying experience as Amazon but frankly they are outclassed. As they say 'no good deed goes unpunished' so I expect the odd loss but 5% of orders lost with no payment might be OK for eBay's ethics but not mine so I no longer list them there. I guess they just expect you to up your prices by 5% to cover the losses but I won't play their game. Apparently they must have realised that it they have pissed a lot of sellers off and a few months ago they have made a proud announcement that now sellers are protected due to a new rule that all goods must be returned before a refund is made.
@@razenby is it possible to buy the heating element other than on ebay, do you sell direct?
what do I look for on eBay, to find your shop?
I think we may have sold out yesterday waiting for stock to arrive. Just search Bosh replacement element.
I replaced the heating pump on my dish washer but it is still working. I get 23 ohms across the terminals
So you have either a controller relay or wiring issue. If the flow switch isnt closing due to a main circulation pump blockage then the heater wont activate. Check all the wires associated with the heating circuit and also the spade terminals at the controller and check the controller board heater relay for sparking or badly. Good luck,
GREAT VID ,I have a siemans SE25M570GB/17 eSpares WANT£196.00 for the pump assembly i only need heating element and you said you had some , would i be able to buy one from you please if not i cant afford this the dishwasher only cost me £100 secondhand of course
Thanks. Unfortunately I sold the 1k pieces that I had made with just handling and shipping. I got fed up of eBay summarily refunding people because they hadn't ordered the correct part without the inconvenience of returning it. . eBay are trying to offer the same level of customer service and they do it by screwing the suppliers. The buyer has to take some responsibility and send wrong items back. needless to say I don't use eBay any more. No good deed goes unpunished!
@@razenby i understand ebay can be a right arse. Was wondering if you could tell me how you make the element or is there another element that would work if i can get one to fit i will and if it means altering the plastic bring it on i used a piece of wire connected to electric cable to boil water one time when that was the only way i hate being beaten especially as its good to reuse rather than landfill every bit counts if its not too late for Mother Earth already thank you
How much are these elements I can not buy one anywhere separately
es email me at ark.mail@gmx.com - we ship them ever day.
Do you still have these elements available? I’ve looked on eBay and can’t find it🤦🏼♂️
I don't have stock. See replies below for the reason.
@@razenby Ahh ok thanks…my other “dishwasher” is getting angrier by the day so I’ve forked out for a new spare🤦🏼♂️
Are you selling the elements? I need one bud,for a Bosch
Hi John do you still need one?
@@razenby turns out I needed a heat pump, got one and now it also failed, I can't stomach opening the dishwasher again for a few days
Hi . where do i get the elements from ?
I had them manufactured.
Magic Smoke Can you supply me with one of these elements?
I have a few left at the office. Email address is in links below.
Mate - I noticed that there is oil in the white plastic end cover of that heater element while you are handling it........ Mine has the same - and there is a fair bit of oil in the bottom of the dishwasher cabinet underneath the heater assembly.
I thought maybe it came from the heater - but where? When you sawed it open - just ceramic.
But there is oil on the end cap of mine - and pooled under the heater in the base. WHERE can it come from????? There is no oil ANYWHERE else.
Dishwasher is driving me crazy. It doesn't get hot enough, only get hot (up to 60 deg) on 70 deg cycle........... and won't finish as sticks on "1" forever indicating a heater fault.
Initially, flow switch was U/S (too stiff); so I dismantled heater hoping to find blockage.
But clean as a whistle in there. Thermistor reads 2.95 k at 70 deg, down to 40 k at room temp of 26. Heater element is reading 24 ohms, which should be ok.
Really don't want to throw it away, but running out of options.
But any ideas on that oil??????
It is from a leak somewhere. The greasy water evaporates and leaves the oils from the food behind. Possibly the heater going open circuit when it heats up.
@@razenby Hey mate, thanks for the reply.
Makes sense about the oils being left from a leak; never seen any water in there, but where else could it come from?
Also makes sense about possible intermittent fault with heater as temp changes.
Initially I found a stuck float, gummed up shuttle valve in the heat exchanger, and a "too stiff" flow switch. Replaced/cleaned all = gets hot in middle of 70 deg cycle (as said above); but not much else.
I might have to do a trial to see if element cuts out when hot.
Very frustrating; don't want to "contribute to landfill" and buy another, but will see.
If I can confirm the heater is intermittent, will then replace. But don't want to cut it up without confirmation.
Thanks for the ongoing feedback.
Cheers.
@@KJs581 Usually it is the seal on the main circulation pump leaking. If you lower the base and have a look it should be pretty obvious.
@@razenby I have it all completely apart and all those seals are good, there is no evidence of water anywhere; or stains where it had been. That is what makes me want to fix it, it is so clean and "like new" throughout even though bought in 2007.......
I reckon that oil came out of the heater end seal. When I removed the heater end cover, there was traces of that oil between the seal and cover. In your video, the end seal is covered in the same brown oil. I think mine has just seeped out.
I will do a trial on the heater, firstly immerse it in boiling water and see if resistance changes. If not, I will run it and see if it goes open cct when running under it's own power/generating heat.
I initially also had problems with not filling completely, which of course makes low level/pump cavitate/flow switch open = no heater. But I fixed the shuttle valve in the heat exchanger (matrix), and there is nothing wrong with the fill sensor ........ so running out of ideas.
Sorry this has been such a "back and forth." Frustrating when everything I check is working.......
No need to reply if you are busy. I feel like I have taken up far too much of your time and patience already.
But thanks for your help thus far.
Cheers;
Ken H
Do you still sell these elements?
Yes. email me at ark.mail@gmx.com if you would like one. My office ships every day and they are in stock in store.
@@razenby I can't send mail to your e mail address