The way you said that the mower frees you up to do higher order things is the same thing we say to companies when our technology displaces their people. "They'll be freed up to do more important and meaningful work." They just end up getting laid off in the end. Great video.
Wow!!! The BEST review I’ve seen plus absolutely beautiful home and yard, Luckily I have a deck high off the ground which is where I’ll install the satellite receiver thingy, thx a lot for this comprehensive walkthrough, 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
That was a truly great set up/review video LE. Watching you work your way through common issues is going to be hugely valuable for people that are considering buying a Robomower. Which, I guess, includes me now,..damn it. By the way, your property looks fabulous. The lawn came in great, the landscaping is on point, all the plantings look nice, great border work, solid retaining wall, and that incredible American Chestnut anchoring the yard. Maybe add a bench, another nice bird feeder, and some color, to catch the eye, out in that far corner in front where it is tough to grow grass. I'll be watching.
Thanks Morte, it turned into quite a long video. I’m loving the mower so far but I don’t think the mass market would put up with the setup I went through. Hopefully my experience can help other early adopters understand setup and troubleshooting.
@@TheLawnEngineerI hate my Luba. It will not charge. Customer service is not responding. Has never moved more than 30 feet. Since they don’t respond, I will reverse the credit charge Friday if they haven’t responded. Terrible product, terrible customer support.
I can assure you I was on the fence, I have around 1.5 acres of beautiful well taken care of grass……I got the 5000… I’m so so happy with the results . I haven’t even looked at my lawn tractor in 3 weeks. Luba is truly a timesaver.Only time can tell with reliability but I think it was a fantastic purchase with zero regrets , well only one ..wish this was available years ago.
Your reception problem near the house is not because of your RTK placement, That's a great place for your RTK It's just Luba being so close to the building is not getting good GPS signal. Both the RTK and Luba have GPS receivers and Luba has to see the sky just like the RTK. The link between RTK and Luba is almost never the problem because it's 900 MHz and it will penetrate walls. Also you may find you need to relocate your charger base being against the building like that will cause problems with Luba's GPS reception. I figured out this after a few days of pulling out my hair I relocated the charger station out 6 ft away from the house fixed a lot of the problems I was having. Great video It's fun watching you work through it! I hope you enjoy Luba I've had mine since February
Any source for 900 MHz link between luba and RTK ? From what I read it uses wifi 2,4 Ghz signal, thus only 120m range. Husqvarna on the other hand with their Epos (gps based) uses 900 MHz, thus they have much better range, around 450m. ruclips.net/video/V7uY_dRJrac/видео.html 6:02
What a great review! You whent through the exact same problems i had one month ago when I received my Luba. Your land is about the same as mine with 6 zones for a total of 18 000 sq feet, but you have more no-go zone than me. My landscape is made such that I did not have more than 2-3 minutes of trimming but now with Luba I have about 15-20 minutes of trimming because Luba leave quite a bit of uncut grass around each no-go zone and between zones. I would say more than a feet wide even though I was very precise when I defined these no-go zone. I find it faster and more efficient to cut those with my mowing tractor instead of using the trimming machine. That is until Mammotion will eventually improve their software to go around the no-go zone (make a rounded path like it does for a zone). My grass is also dense but "flimsy" so Luba leave quite a bit of uncut grass unless I cut it twice like you decided to do. Finally, my RTK is on the very top of my house and I still have a small area where Luba has lost its connection a couple of times but it recovers itself after a few minutes. By the way, I am also an engineer, I am now a retired engineer professor.
Thanks for checking in, it’s great to have another engineer’s opinion. It took me a bit to notice why the no go zones were trimmed so poorly. You nailed it, no border passes are taken on the no-go zones so it does seem like a fairly easy software fix.
Excellent Testing & Review of this GPS guided Mower. One item that puzzled me was how well the Luba operated on the opposite side of the House from the Ref Antenna location, but when the Mower came closer to the area directly below the Antenna, you got Positioning Errors. Both the Mower & Ref Antenna "see" GPS Satellites and need a min of 20 out of the 31 available Satellites from the GNSS system to keep mowing. Also, the RTK Antenna & Mower maintain constant communication between each other, @ 900Mhz, to compare GPS info & increase accuracy. That little black Antenna that attaches to the bottom of the RTK is the 900Mhz transmission/reception antenna for communications between the two and it's designed to radiate that 900Mhz radio energy laterally and Not straight downwards. See where I'm goin w/ this ? I've watched too many other YT vids on this Mower and that's a common occurrence, to have Positioning Error issues when operating below the RTK Antenna itself. Just sayin and this is the Best Owner/Reviewer vid on the Luba Mower out there on YT imho. I say that because your Lawn offers All of the challenges that Mammotion claims the Luba can handle and you Tested to prove the locating requirements for the Antenna & Charging Station. Nicely Done !
Great information, thanks for taking the time to share. Also, I’m glad that you found value in my video. Based on the information you have provided and I have gathered, the best place for the RTK is likely at the center of my house. I’ll have to think about how to make that happen.
@@TheLawnEngineer Thx ! Yea, the Mammotion User Manual, pg 16 of their current edition, addresses the "Line of Sight" issue between the Mower & Ref Antenna, but there is a slight disclaimer at the end saying, " . . . as long as the transmission path is not fully obstructed". I've got a similar situation in that the Lawn wraps around the House/Garage entirely w/ tall Trees along one border, meaning no matter where I place the Ref Antenna, there will be structural interference in some area. I think it's a compromise between the height you can mount the Ref Antenna and how much and what kind of material is preventing direct Line of Sight between the two (Wood, Metal siding, R/V's, Tree density etc.) Some Reviewers are having Positioning Errors w/ good RTK Ant locations and the Luba in a "Clear Sky" area but it's just over 200ft away from the Antenna and there are one or more Trees between the two. I figured that if the Positioning Errors under the Antenna were an ongoing issue for your particular setup, that you'd try that upper Roof line for the RTK at some point. I just purchased the Mod 3000 on this last Black Friday sale from that Jungle website and haven't mowed a single blade of grass yet due to weather. Mammotion offered the same price with "extras" tossed into the deal but the Return policy w/ the Jungle website seemed easier to deal w/ should I need to. They also offered their "no questions asked" Extended Warranty in 1 - 3 yr increments so I spent part of the sale price savings on a Warranty extension. Again, Nice Job on the Review of this Enigmatic little Robot ! Thx.
I just signed a contract to buy a house that sits on 3 acres. I don't think that this is gonna work just yet. IIRC, they say 1.25 acres is the max. I can't believe though that I just sat and watched this almost-an-hour video. I'm subbing now so I can find out how things continue for you.
LE, you are a genius for putting the turn around mat in the gravel area. I was thinking, oh no, he's gonna put the mat on the grass and kill it. I'm waiting for the 3000 with off-road wheels. They currently only give those on the 5000 even though they have an "option" below the 3000, it switches immediately to the 5000. Beautiful yard BTW. Looking forward to updates.
I really didn’t like the idea of having the map the grass. I am curious to know how this omniwheels work but I’m pretty sure I need the off-road tires for my slopes.
Thank you for this honest review video. Nice to see the ups & downs of settings these up. Everybody should watch this before getting one so they know what to expect
you just gave the best review i have seen on your luba. i have watched a few and in all of them they never said anything about if the rtk anntenna had to be insight of the robot. you showed me that it does not have to. i was wondering if it would cut my front and back yard and put it on top of my roof. you made up my mind this is my next purchase. UPDATE ...i did buy the luba 3000 and i have to say it is everything you say in this video. it works awesome and highly recommend buying it to every one on the fence.
I’m glad you found it helpful 👍. I am loving not having to mow my lawn but it being freshly cut every couple of days. I don’t know how I found time to ride around the mower before.
Thank you for your excellent video. I have a lawn setup very similar to yours, and your video has answered my questions regarding the feasibility of getting a robotic lawnmower.
Very good video , I am looking for that product since a year now . Your video approch is one of the best one , believe me I have look a ton of video of the luba awd . Thank you .
Great setup & review!! Just received my LUBA 5000 today, and your experience should save me a lot of time and aggravation, especially since my lawn is smaller and less complex. I put my perimeter wire robot mower out to pasture a while ago, due to too many wire breaks (mostly by lawn & sprinkler service) and I've been waiting for this type of tech to try robotic mowing again. Planning on getting an EV soon too, so was happy to subscribe to catch all of your tips.
Awesome, thanks for checking in. Let me know the Luba works for you. The EV is still working great for our family. We have an upcoming road trip to Yellowstone that I hope to document.
Thanks for the review and sharing your struggles and success points! I too would have the same issue with "blackout" areas due to trees. My preconceived thoughts would be to mount the transceiver to one of my two chimneys for a more wide coverage.
great video and it show this is lest a year away from simplel set up needs work and cost too much for all this work to set up thanks for doing this video you saved me money!
One thing you could try with the trampoline so you don't have to move it around every time. I think you can set up virtual walls at the point of the legs where it gets stuck so that it will only go under the trampoline where there isn't the bar. Let me know if that works for you because my main reason for wanting a robot is for cutting under my trampoline.
That is a good idea, but I like to move the trampoline so the grass doesn’t die under the legs. Anyway, a robot with vision will automatically adapt and move around the trampoline, video coming very soon.
You can also adjust cutting width and do a single grid. Half the width of the rotors will cut the same spot again as it traverses on the lowest width setting
It does get a bit complicated. I expect the dealer network and installation support to ramp up quickly; however, a large portion of the population is very resistant to change so we will see.
I thought about purchasing this, but it was still under construction and my grass needed to be cut so I bought a worx.And I had to put the wire down. The one thing I really like about it is I can replace the battery.
Thanks for checking in. Yes, a battery failure would be a death blow for the Luba. If that happens to me, I will make a video attempting a diy replacement. I’m not sure if it will be successful but I will try.
I love your back yard! Your landscaping is very nice!!!!! Very nice demo location! I see Amazon has a Luba 10000 now!!!! How much land you have? It goes way over there!!!!???
Thanks for the nice comment. I have just over 3 acres and the lawn is a little less than 1. I saw the Luba 10000 with the vision system. It looks like a good machine but they aren’t giving it away 🫣.
I wonder when Ego will jump into the fray; I'm quite certain they will. They typically take a long time to bring things to market, I would expect an autonomous mower from them in 2025. I have several of their products and I'll say I'm a fan. Its just they take a long time to release new products, but when they do they are either best in class or right up there. Interesting.
I’m wonder the same thing. All of the big brands are now behind. Hopefully they can make up some ground and come up with some compelling products. String trimmers mounted on the sides to clean up the edges?
@@TheLawnEngineer I've watched several of your videos now....getting very close to pulling the trigger on the Luba 2. Just a little unsure about the Yuka, so thinking the Luba 2 3000H might be the best choice for me. I may purchase from Amazon, so it if doesn't work for me, easy to return. I walked around my yard with a GPS app on my Android, and even though I have plenty of trees, didn't seem to impact GPS signal. I've downloaded the Mammotion app, but haven't created an account yet. It would be great if they built in a "checker" into their app......"Before installing, download our app and walk around your property and we'll tell you how well Luba is likely to work". That would a be a great idea.
I am still using the Luba 1. Update video here: Luba 5000 AWD 2nd Year Setup - Real World Use - Improvements Made ruclips.net/video/gnDpP9WXuB8/видео.html I also just got a SunSeeker with vision, video coming soon.
Very comprehensive review, thanks for doing it. Clearly a superior product than the boundary wire robot mowers. But you get what you pay for. Luba is 3 to 4X the cost of the lower end boundary wire mower - which I have been using for a couple of years. Precise GPS controlled devices are big potential labor savor freeing people up from mundane mowng. But I honestly don't see these going mainstream due to 1) setup time 2) cost and 3) the significant problem of theft. Unless you live in a gated community anyone can pick this thing up and walk away with it. Yes you can put alarms and codes on them but your mower is still gone. These things are destined to forever be big boy toys unless they become easier to use and more affordable. They are getting fancier and more expensive not less expensive. One last question, what was the total acreage of your final mowed area map ? Thanks again.
You're welcome. Yes, it will be very interesting to see how this part of the lawn care market evolves over the coming years. I saw that John Deere announced a partnership with EGO, it's obvious that gas mowers are on their last iteration but will robot/gps mowers be mass adopted? Time will tell, thanks for checking in.
I’ve been waiting for mine about 6 weeks now. Thinking about cancelling the order as we are losing cutting season here in Canada in a few weeks. Customer service is very poor at Mammotion.
It has been good for this season, but that is a very real risk. Hopefully when that happens, other US brands will have similar options. I would attempt a battery replacement but hopefully I won't have to.
@@TheLawnEngineer I think the other way to look at the calculus is that the Luba will extend the life of your riding mower to essentially forever so that you'll never have to replace it again. If you amortize it like that, it's almost like getting a used riding mower for free.
Great video. You have a lot of patience. I’ve decided to mount mine on the corner of my roof with the optional tube. It has a mind of itself. Annoying… it’s my 8th time that I have to remap. I need prayers. 😅
@@TheLawnEngineer yes. Right now it rains so I’m waiting for fair weather to remap for the 9 th time. It’s 1 km. Leaving this time 6” to 1’ on the sides since Luba tends to go further then usual. I love the cutting but hated the lost of signals and the mapping. Got the 5000. I put the charging station right beneath the RTK that is 25 feet higher up where the roof is the highest. When I send it back to the charging station it turns on it self 360 degrees going nowhere. Don’t understand. Do you have an idea?
@@padremm 95% of the positioning is good but I do have two locations where the border passes messes up. 1. in the area below the RTK 2. On the side of the house opposite the RTK. I have modified these boundaries and they are perfect for a mow and then seem to drift. If you figure it out, let me know.
Appreciate this video and the information you provided. I am looking at this mower but have many very large trees also. I was looking for how much and where on your lawn and can't tell if you have more or less. Looks like you have mature trees even in the lawn area so wondering how much that impacts the mower.
Glad it was helpful. It does not skip a beat with the mature trees that don’t have any branches down low. It does lose signal when it goes under brushy areas at spots on the edge of the lawn. When it loses signal, it pauses in place until it’s regained and then continues. I have had three occasions where it hasn’t regained signal and paused so long the battery died. In those cases I had to carry it back to the charging station but then life was good again. I could improve those areas by cutting back brush and using the pole saw to take off lower branches.
I'd love yo get your reply to three questions. One is does it leave a lot of clippings that you need to rake or clippings are small enough to just break down on their own? Second, does undercarriage get caulked up with grass when it's damp or wet? Last is what if I have a fence between front and back yard, can I bring it to front manually to keep gate closed? Thank you so much for taking your time to reply 😊🙏
Great questions. The size of the clippings is exactly what is cut off during the mow job. There is no recutting or mulching of the grass. The good news is that you control this by how often you have the bot cut. There is some grass buildup on the deck after cutting wet grass but it has not created any problem for me. Also, it typically falls off when it dries out. Yes you can manually drive the mower and then have it start cutting. You will have to define different zones during setup but that isn’t difficult.
Excellent video - thank you. Can I ask for your thoughts on two equal sized lawns front and back with a gate separating them. I need to keep the gate closed (2 dogs). If you manually move the luba to the front lawn how would it get back to the charging station? Could you put a "cat flap" type setup in the gate? Or would the luba 'bounce' off it and just see it as an obstacle? Would a second charging station work? Appreciate any reply.
I think the "cat flap" would work well. You have two options with obstacle avoidance with the Luba, using the ultrasonic sensors and not. In this case you would have to turn off the ultrasonic sensors. The front bumper is still active but takes a pretty good bump to activate it. I would think it could pass through a flap without activating the front bumper sensor. The next issue is making the Luba drive from front to back yards on the same path so it passes through the flap. To do this, you would make two zones and then define the connection between the two by the driving the luba from on yard to the other thru the flap.
I have more videos on the Luba on this playlist: Lawn/landscape ruclips.net/p/PLbrthXtEfbVi0WSSNBeuXr5oPoywbPtw1 I love pretty far north so I’m just getting it out for the season this weekend. I am happy with it but the addition of the vision system on Luba 2 is interesting. I should have another update video on the Luba soon👍
I have over 2 acres to mow. I understand that the 5000 model and 10,000 model are mechanically the same, including the batteries. Do we know the actual technical difference between the 5000 and 10,000 model? Is The acreage coverage just a software restriction? Also, what happens if you try to mow more acres than your Luba model is rated for? Thank you so much for your thoughts
It is a software restriction in the acreage you can map. It likely has something to do with the memory capabilities for all the gps data. On a side note, I think it would be difficult for one Luba to keep up with that size lawn. If you lose a few days due to rain in peak growing season, the grass can get out of control. I think your best option is to run two robots.
Great video. The Luba looks like a fantastic machine, but I do have a couple concerns. I've used a Husqvarna robot for the past few mowing seasons. It's great when it works, but it's had major reliability issues. I can't count how many times it's been in the shop. So my primary concern is the Luba's reliability, and what do you do if it does need repair when you can't take it back to the dealer you bought it from? Also, does the RTK antenna need to be connected to power, or does it just need to be connected to the charging station with that cable?
Thanks for watching and checking in. I just finished filming an update video on the Luba. To my knowledge, there is no service or repair parts available. If this is a concern, do not buy it. I bought it from Amazon and it shipped directly from Hong Kong, there is no dealer to contact. The RTK antenna does need power. It can be plugged into the charging station or a separate power supply. The separate power supply was included in the main box and that is what I used to power the RTK.
How’s this thing handle wet grass? My yard is always wet and mower clogging is a never ending nightmare. These blades don’t look very sturdy either. How often to you have to sharpen and replace them? I am lucky to get 2 mows out of a set of blades on my conventional mower before I have to re grind or replace them, those blades don’t look like they would last 10 minutes to me. Are they made of something special?
It handles wet grass well. It tends to lay the grass over and the deck needs to be cleaned occasionally but it cuts it fine. The blades are a plated steel that is much sharper than a typical blade. There are four cutting edges on each blade so I rotate them about every month and a half. One set lasts the mowing season for me.
@@TheLawnEngineer Thanks I might get one of these things soon. By the time I’m done mowing I don’t have the time to do anything else like trimming, blowing, fertilizing, ect.
Company does not supply phone number, only email. They did supply the contact number for their dealer in Utah. After 9 calls and messages left with that company with no responses, I gave up on Luba
Bluetooth is connected but app won’t go forward without dealing with SIM card. No mention of SIM card in manual, your help would be greatly appreciated!
Yes, RTK must be powered. A separate power supply and 10m cable was provided. I plugged into an outlet at ground level and ran the cable along siding trim to the RTK.
Love the video, my choice is the Luba 5000 but, I have read that the company support is lacking. I know you just got it but have you had any experience with Mammotion support? That is the last item I need to understand before I purchase it.
I had not tried to use any customer service. However, based on what others have said; do not order if you are expected support after the sale. Wait until some bigger brands catch up. These units are built and shipped directly from Hong Kong.
Just got my Luba 1000. What have you found to be the secret to get close to the perimeter without being too far from edge or too far away from edge. When tracing the perimeter do you find the perimeter comes from the center of the lube or the sides??
The perimeter is set from the side of the robot. The biggest secret is likely to design/change your landscape to allow you to drive the Luba over the edge without it getting stuck or damaged. This would involve setting edgers and driveway/roadway at the same elevation was the grass. The robot follows the path (including direction) that was programmed when setting up the mow areas.
Will the mower stay off soil? When you start your mower for the first time. Do you have to walk behind it? I hope i dont have to stick that antenna on the roof. I'm old lol
You know... I have a horrible time with deer invading and uprooting my property at night. I wonder, if I had one of these and set it to mow certain areas around 1-2 am, if that would be helpful in discouraging pests like deer! LOL
That would help until they get use to it 🙃. I’ve noticed a few evening encounters and the deer didn’t love Luba but they didn’t run off either. I think we need something motion activated…maybe some Halloween decorations.
Can someone with working Luba configuration on his yard tell me how many satellites can see/use on your phone (for Android you can use app 'gps test'), not sure about ios. On my yard I can see 34, phone is locked to 10 of them (all this with offline mode, no help from wifi/mobile data). Is this good enough for Luba ? There are some trees in the yard.
I think it will run them over fine but will not mulch well. I’m expecting my backpack blower to get a heavy workload this fall…but then again it does every year. I have more leaves than my lawn tractor could handle.
@@TheLawnEngineer ok thanks. Even though I cut my leaves into fine pieces, I have to dump them in the wooded part of my property…far too much to mulch. Without reducing the volume, it would become an enormous unsightly pile. I will be on the lookout for your workflow in this regard. If there is a good solution here, a robot could be an option for me in future.
You don’t have to but it speeds things up a bit. Instead of the mower discovering it during mowing, the gps path is changed to go around from the start.
Do you set it the first time. Including the zones etc and then it goes on its own from then onwards? I know you have to start it but what do you expect after the startup.
I'm going through the leaves now. I'm opting to use the backpack blower to remove them from the lawn, we will see if my opinion changes after two months of leaf duty.
I’ll never know if a Luba will work for me because their return policy is absolute bullshit. They only accept unopened boxes. I can test drive a vehicle, tour a house and even have an inspection done, but I can’t return an open box Luba if it can’t get good reception in my yard. It says to me they don’t have much faith in their product. I just returned an EcoFlow Blade after having it over a month for a full refund. Perhaps when they get their issues sorted out with their software I’ll just buy another Blade or a Yarbo if it ever gets released.
Agreed, I would not buy one and assume that you will get customer service. I’m excited to see the advances that are made in the next few years across bigger brands.
Both. Standard is to connect to the charging base. Mine also came with the additional power source to mount it remotely. The MAMMOTION website lists the additional power source as a free gift if you order now…I ordered from Amazon and it still came with the additional power source.
@@ricsuk yes I got an overload error on one of the blades. I took a look and there was a stick stuck above one of the cutting discs. I removed the stick resumes and life was good.
The razor blades do look a little weak but they actually cut decent. I think the disc with small blades has much less aero drag than a conventional blade and increases run time.
Watching this while my Luba is sitting on the charger not charging. Customer service is not responding. It’s been four days. Piece of junk, nonexistent customer service. Don’t buy.
That sounds incredibly frustrating. I’m sure the customer service is not good. Probably have to return and try again or just go with a different brand.
It does lay some of the grass down because there is no airflow to lift the grass for cutting. It still cut decent and you can cross cut to clean things up. Anyway, these are the worst robot mowers we are going to have…only going to get better.
The way you said that the mower frees you up to do higher order things is the same thing we say to companies when our technology displaces their people. "They'll be freed up to do more important and meaningful work." They just end up getting laid off in the end. Great video.
Thanks for checking in. Yeah, if you hear that at work, it’s probably time to get the resume updated 🤨
Some guy used to put on a suit to operate an elevator. For every one of those jobs lost, 10 were created by the modern elevator.
Watching this while my LUBA is mowing the front lawn!
It’s an amazing feeling…fresh cut lawn happening while you get other things done.
Wow!!! The BEST review I’ve seen plus absolutely beautiful home and yard,
Luckily I have a deck high off the ground which is where I’ll install the satellite receiver thingy, thx a lot for this comprehensive walkthrough, 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
Thank you for taking the time to leave a nice comment.
You’re welcome, I hope you enjoy your bot.
That was a truly great set up/review video LE. Watching you work your way through common issues is going to be hugely valuable for people that are considering buying a Robomower. Which, I guess, includes me now,..damn it. By the way, your property looks fabulous. The lawn came in great, the landscaping is on point, all the plantings look nice, great border work, solid retaining wall, and that incredible American Chestnut anchoring the yard. Maybe add a bench, another nice bird feeder, and some color, to catch the eye, out in that far corner in front where it is tough to grow grass. I'll be watching.
Thanks Morte, it turned into quite a long video. I’m loving the mower so far but I don’t think the mass market would put up with the setup I went through. Hopefully my experience can help other early adopters understand setup and troubleshooting.
@@TheLawnEngineerI hate my Luba. It will not charge. Customer service is not responding. Has never moved more than 30 feet. Since they don’t respond, I will reverse the credit charge Friday if they haven’t responded.
Terrible product, terrible customer support.
I can assure you I was on the fence, I have around 1.5 acres of beautiful well taken care of grass……I got the 5000… I’m so so happy with the results . I haven’t even looked at my lawn tractor in 3 weeks. Luba is truly a timesaver.Only time can tell with reliability but I think it was a fantastic purchase with zero regrets , well only one ..wish this was available years ago.
I agree, I’m loving it. The time savings are great!!!👍
Your reception problem near the house is not because of your RTK placement, That's a great place for your RTK It's just Luba being so close to the building is not getting good GPS signal. Both the RTK and Luba have GPS receivers and Luba has to see the sky just like the RTK. The link between RTK and Luba is almost never the problem because it's 900 MHz and it will penetrate walls. Also you may find you need to relocate your charger base being against the building like that will cause problems with Luba's GPS reception. I figured out this after a few days of pulling out my hair I relocated the charger station out 6 ft away from the house fixed a lot of the problems I was having. Great video It's fun watching you work through it! I hope you enjoy Luba I've had mine since February
I agree, I’ve come to the same conclusion now. I’m going to move out away from the house but I would rather not map everything again 🤨
@@TheLawnEngineer You can move the base without remapping... You only have to remap if you move the RTK unit
@@Crazypostman thanks for the confirmation. I was moving both so much at the start I seemed to be remapping constantly 🤣
Any source for 900 MHz link between luba and RTK ? From what I read it uses wifi 2,4 Ghz signal, thus only 120m range. Husqvarna on the other hand with their Epos (gps based) uses 900 MHz, thus they have much better range, around 450m.
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What a great review! You whent through the exact same problems i had one month ago when I received my Luba. Your land is about the same as mine with 6 zones for a total of 18 000 sq feet, but you have more no-go zone than me. My landscape is made such that I did not have more than 2-3 minutes of trimming but now with Luba I have about 15-20 minutes of trimming because Luba leave quite a bit of uncut grass around each no-go zone and between zones. I would say more than a feet wide even though I was very precise when I defined these no-go zone. I find it faster and more efficient to cut those with my mowing tractor instead of using the trimming machine. That is until Mammotion will eventually improve their software to go around the no-go zone (make a rounded path like it does for a zone). My grass is also dense but "flimsy" so Luba leave quite a bit of uncut grass unless I cut it twice like you decided to do. Finally, my RTK is on the very top of my house and I still have a small area where Luba has lost its connection a couple of times but it recovers itself after a few minutes. By the way, I am also an engineer, I am now a retired engineer professor.
Thanks for checking in, it’s great to have another engineer’s opinion. It took me a bit to notice why the no go zones were trimmed so poorly. You nailed it, no border passes are taken on the no-go zones so it does seem like a fairly easy software fix.
This has been updated. You can now do perimeter Laps around Nogo zones
Excellent Testing & Review of this GPS guided Mower. One item that puzzled me was how well the Luba operated on the opposite side of the House from the Ref Antenna location, but when the Mower came closer to the area directly below the Antenna, you got Positioning Errors.
Both the Mower & Ref Antenna "see" GPS Satellites and need a min of 20 out of the 31 available Satellites from the GNSS system to keep mowing. Also, the RTK Antenna & Mower maintain constant communication between each other, @ 900Mhz, to compare GPS info & increase accuracy. That little black Antenna that attaches to the bottom of the RTK is the 900Mhz transmission/reception antenna for communications between the two and it's designed to radiate that 900Mhz radio energy laterally and Not straight downwards. See where I'm goin w/ this ?
I've watched too many other YT vids on this Mower and that's a common occurrence, to have Positioning Error issues when operating below the RTK Antenna itself.
Just sayin and this is the Best Owner/Reviewer vid on the Luba Mower out there on YT imho. I say that because your Lawn offers All of the challenges that Mammotion claims the Luba can handle and you Tested to prove the locating requirements for the Antenna & Charging Station. Nicely Done !
Great information, thanks for taking the time to share. Also, I’m glad that you found value in my video.
Based on the information you have provided and I have gathered, the best place for the RTK is likely at the center of my house. I’ll have to think about how to make that happen.
@@TheLawnEngineer Thx ! Yea, the Mammotion User Manual, pg 16 of their current edition, addresses the "Line of Sight" issue between the Mower & Ref Antenna, but there is a slight disclaimer at the end saying, " . . . as long as the transmission path is not fully obstructed". I've got a similar situation in that the Lawn wraps around the House/Garage entirely w/ tall Trees along one border, meaning no matter where I place the Ref Antenna, there will be structural interference in some area.
I think it's a compromise between the height you can mount the Ref Antenna and how much and what kind of material is preventing direct Line of Sight between the two (Wood, Metal siding, R/V's, Tree density etc.)
Some Reviewers are having Positioning Errors w/ good RTK Ant locations and the Luba in a "Clear Sky" area but it's just over 200ft away from the Antenna and there are one or more Trees between the two.
I figured that if the Positioning Errors under the Antenna were an ongoing issue for your particular setup, that you'd try that upper Roof line for the RTK at some point. I just purchased the Mod 3000 on this last Black Friday sale from that Jungle website and haven't mowed a single blade of grass yet due to weather. Mammotion offered the same price with "extras" tossed into the deal but the Return policy w/ the Jungle website seemed easier to deal w/ should I need to. They also offered their "no questions asked" Extended Warranty in 1 - 3 yr increments so I spent part of the sale price savings on a Warranty extension.
Again, Nice Job on the Review of this Enigmatic little Robot ! Thx.
What an awesome video with a whole wealth of info for someone considering a purchase. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Totally agree that it frees us up. I have had a robomow for the last 7 years and that is exactly what it did it for me. Thanks for the video!
You are so welcome! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I’m loving the time savings.
I just signed a contract to buy a house that sits on 3 acres. I don't think that this is gonna work just yet. IIRC, they say 1.25 acres is the max. I can't believe though that I just sat and watched this almost-an-hour video. I'm subbing now so I can find out how things continue for you.
Thanks for the sub and taking the time to check-in. I'm loving the robot but 3 acres is likely too much for one of these.
LE, you are a genius for putting the turn around mat in the gravel area. I was thinking, oh no, he's gonna put the mat on the grass and kill it. I'm waiting for the 3000 with off-road wheels. They currently only give those on the 5000 even though they have an "option" below the 3000, it switches immediately to the 5000. Beautiful yard BTW. Looking forward to updates.
I really didn’t like the idea of having the map the grass. I am curious to know how this omniwheels work but I’m pretty sure I need the off-road tires for my slopes.
Thank you for this honest review video. Nice to see the ups & downs of settings these up. Everybody should watch this before getting one so they know what to expect
Glad it was helpful! It is definitely not a plug and play device.
you just gave the best review i have seen on your luba. i have watched a few and in all of them they never said anything about if the rtk anntenna had to be insight of the robot. you showed me that it does not have to. i was wondering if it would cut my front and back yard and put it on top of my roof. you made up my mind this is my next purchase. UPDATE ...i did buy the luba 3000 and i have to say it is everything you say in this video. it works awesome and highly recommend buying it to every one on the fence.
I’m glad you found it helpful 👍. I am loving not having to mow my lawn but it being freshly cut every couple of days. I don’t know how I found time to ride around the mower before.
Благодаря за подробното видео ! За мен е много поучително ! 😃
You’re welcome, I’m glad you found some value in this video. Thanks for leaving a comment.
Thank you for your excellent video. I have a lawn setup very similar to yours, and your video has answered my questions regarding the feasibility of getting a robotic lawnmower.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to check in 👍
It makes no sense that I just subscribed to this channel. But I did. Well thought-out video. Bravo!
Thank you!
Very good video , I am looking for that product since a year now . Your video approch is one of the best one , believe me I have look a ton of video of the luba awd . Thank you .
Glad it was helpful!
Great setup & review!! Just received my LUBA 5000 today, and your experience should save me a lot of time and aggravation, especially since my lawn is smaller and less complex. I put my perimeter wire robot mower out to pasture a while ago, due to too many wire breaks (mostly by lawn & sprinkler service) and I've been waiting for this type of tech to try robotic mowing again. Planning on getting an EV soon too, so was happy to subscribe to catch all of your tips.
Awesome, thanks for checking in. Let me know the Luba works for you.
The EV is still working great for our family. We have an upcoming road trip to Yellowstone that I hope to document.
Thanks for the review and sharing your struggles and success points! I too would have the same issue with "blackout" areas due to trees. My preconceived thoughts would be to mount the transceiver to one of my two chimneys for a more wide coverage.
Your welcome. Yes, that sounds like a good idea to mount on a chimney.
great video and it show this is lest a year away from simplel set up needs work and cost too much for all this work to set up thanks for doing this video you saved me money!
Yes, I think you have come to the right conclusion. I am making it work but they should only get better in the future.
One thing you could try with the trampoline so you don't have to move it around every time. I think you can set up virtual walls at the point of the legs where it gets stuck so that it will only go under the trampoline where there isn't the bar. Let me know if that works for you because my main reason for wanting a robot is for cutting under my trampoline.
That is a good idea, but I like to move the trampoline so the grass doesn’t die under the legs.
Anyway, a robot with vision will automatically adapt and move around the trampoline, video coming very soon.
You can also adjust cutting width and do a single grid. Half the width of the rotors will cut the same spot again as it traverses on the lowest width setting
Great point. I really appreciate the adjustability.
Very helpful! Thanks, greetings from Austria
Glad it was helpful!
Hopefully there’s a local company that sells these and will come set it up. I absolutely won’t have patience to do the set up
It does get a bit complicated. I expect the dealer network and installation support to ramp up quickly; however, a large portion of the population is very resistant to change so we will see.
I thought about purchasing this, but it was still under construction and my grass needed to be cut so I bought a worx.And I had to put the wire down. The one thing I really like about it is I can replace the battery.
Thanks for checking in. Yes, a battery failure would be a death blow for the Luba. If that happens to me, I will make a video attempting a diy replacement. I’m not sure if it will be successful but I will try.
I love your back yard! Your landscaping is very nice!!!!! Very nice demo location! I see Amazon has a Luba 10000 now!!!! How much land you have? It goes way over there!!!!???
Thanks for the nice comment. I have just over 3 acres and the lawn is a little less than 1. I saw the Luba 10000 with the vision system. It looks like a good machine but they aren’t giving it away 🫣.
I wonder when Ego will jump into the fray; I'm quite certain they will. They typically take a long time to bring things to market, I would expect an autonomous mower from them in 2025. I have several of their products and I'll say I'm a fan. Its just they take a long time to release new products, but when they do they are either best in class or right up there. Interesting.
I’m wonder the same thing. All of the big brands are now behind. Hopefully they can make up some ground and come up with some compelling products. String trimmers mounted on the sides to clean up the edges?
@@TheLawnEngineer I've watched several of your videos now....getting very close to pulling the trigger on the Luba 2. Just a little unsure about the Yuka, so thinking the Luba 2 3000H might be the best choice for me. I may purchase from Amazon, so it if doesn't work for me, easy to return. I walked around my yard with a GPS app on my Android, and even though I have plenty of trees, didn't seem to impact GPS signal. I've downloaded the Mammotion app, but haven't created an account yet. It would be great if they built in a "checker" into their app......"Before installing, download our app and walk around your property and we'll tell you how well Luba is likely to work". That would a be a great idea.
Man, if this thing can cut this level of challenging lawn, it can literally cut anything I've ever seen around here.
I just set it up for this season. Update video coming soon 👍
@@TheLawnEngineer Are you still using the Luba 1 or did you move to the Luba 2?
I am still using the Luba 1. Update video here:
Luba 5000 AWD 2nd Year Setup - Real World Use - Improvements Made
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I also just got a SunSeeker with vision, video coming soon.
Very comprehensive review, thanks for doing it. Clearly a superior product than the boundary wire robot mowers. But you get what you pay for. Luba is 3 to 4X the cost of the lower end boundary wire mower - which I have been using for a couple of years. Precise GPS controlled devices are big potential labor savor freeing people up from mundane mowng. But I honestly don't see these going mainstream due to 1) setup time 2) cost and 3) the significant problem of theft. Unless you live in a gated community anyone can pick this thing up and walk away with it. Yes you can put alarms and codes on them but your mower is still gone. These things are destined to forever be big boy toys unless they become easier to use and more affordable. They are getting fancier and more expensive not less expensive. One last question, what was the total acreage of your final mowed area map ? Thanks again.
You're welcome.
Yes, it will be very interesting to see how this part of the lawn care market evolves over the coming years. I saw that John Deere announced a partnership with EGO, it's obvious that gas mowers are on their last iteration but will robot/gps mowers be mass adopted?
Time will tell, thanks for checking in.
Great Video , It Seams You Showed Everything 👍👍👍🙂
Glad you liked it!
I’ve been waiting for mine about 6 weeks now. Thinking about cancelling the order as we are losing cutting season here in Canada in a few weeks. Customer service is very poor at Mammotion.
I hear you, I would cancel too. I would expect the bigger companies have products in the pipeline.
Don't get rid of your riding mower. You'll need it for when the Luba eventually breaks down or needs a new battery.
It has been good for this season, but that is a very real risk. Hopefully when that happens, other US brands will have similar options. I would attempt a battery replacement but hopefully I won't have to.
@@TheLawnEngineer I think the other way to look at the calculus is that the Luba will extend the life of your riding mower to essentially forever so that you'll never have to replace it again. If you amortize it like that, it's almost like getting a used riding mower for free.
@@sorka95032yes that is a good way to look at it.
Great video. You have a lot of patience. I’ve decided to mount mine on the corner of my roof with the optional tube. It has a mind of itself. Annoying… it’s my 8th time that I have to remap. I need prayers. 😅
Oh no, I feel your pain…remapping is annoying.
It is pretty sweet when you get to enjoy a robot cutting your grass, good luck
@@TheLawnEngineer yes. Right now it rains so I’m waiting for fair weather to remap for the 9 th time. It’s 1 km. Leaving this time 6” to 1’ on the sides since Luba tends to go further then usual. I love the cutting but hated the lost of signals and the mapping. Got the 5000. I put the charging station right beneath the RTK that is 25 feet higher up where the roof is the highest. When I send it back to the charging station it turns on it self 360 degrees going nowhere. Don’t understand. Do you have an idea?
@@padremm 95% of the positioning is good but I do have two locations where the border passes messes up. 1. in the area below the RTK 2. On the side of the house opposite the RTK. I have modified these boundaries and they are perfect for a mow and then seem to drift. If you figure it out, let me know.
@@TheLawnEngineer I’ll try it know. We’ll let you know.
Great Review ! Best one I've seen.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for leaving a nice comment 👍
I'm looking forward to getting myself a LUBA in the near future. Hopefully It'll give me more time to use my Skytrak. 🤣
That’s the goal, more time for golf ⛳️ 😎
Appreciate this video and the information you provided. I am looking at this mower but have many very large trees also. I was looking for how much and where on your lawn and can't tell if you have more or less. Looks like you have mature trees even in the lawn area so wondering how much that impacts the mower.
Glad it was helpful.
It does not skip a beat with the mature trees that don’t have any branches down low. It does lose signal when it goes under brushy areas at spots on the edge of the lawn. When it loses signal, it pauses in place until it’s regained and then continues. I have had three occasions where it hasn’t regained signal and paused so long the battery died. In those cases I had to carry it back to the charging station but then life was good again.
I could improve those areas by cutting back brush and using the pole saw to take off lower branches.
I'd love yo get your reply to three questions. One is does it leave a lot of clippings that you need to rake or clippings are small enough to just break down on their own? Second, does undercarriage get caulked up with grass when it's damp or wet? Last is what if I have a fence between front and back yard, can I bring it to front manually to keep gate closed? Thank you so much for taking your time to reply 😊🙏
Great questions. The size of the clippings is exactly what is cut off during the mow job. There is no recutting or mulching of the grass. The good news is that you control this by how often you have the bot cut.
There is some grass buildup on the deck after cutting wet grass but it has not created any problem for me. Also, it typically falls off when it dries out.
Yes you can manually drive the mower and then have it start cutting. You will have to define different zones during setup but that isn’t difficult.
@@TheLawnEngineer Thank you so much, very helpful
Excellent video - thank you. Can I ask for your thoughts on two equal sized lawns front and back with a gate separating them. I need to keep the gate closed (2 dogs). If you manually move the luba to the front lawn how would it get back to the charging station? Could you put a "cat flap" type setup in the gate? Or would the luba 'bounce' off it and just see it as an obstacle?
Would a second charging station work? Appreciate any reply.
I think the "cat flap" would work well. You have two options with obstacle avoidance with the Luba, using the ultrasonic sensors and not. In this case you would have to turn off the ultrasonic sensors. The front bumper is still active but takes a pretty good bump to activate it. I would think it could pass through a flap without activating the front bumper sensor.
The next issue is making the Luba drive from front to back yards on the same path so it passes through the flap. To do this, you would make two zones and then define the connection between the two by the driving the luba from on yard to the other thru the flap.
@@TheLawnEngineer thanks for the excellent reply. Legend!
thanks i enjoyed your channel.
Awesome, thank you!
This video is 9 months old. How do you like it now? I’m thinking about a Luba.
I have more videos on the Luba on this playlist: Lawn/landscape
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I love pretty far north so I’m just getting it out for the season this weekend. I am happy with it but the addition of the vision system on Luba 2 is interesting.
I should have another update video on the Luba soon👍
A summary video would be great
I know this one is long…some like it others want brief. I’ll work on providing both options.
I have over 2 acres to mow. I understand that the 5000 model and 10,000 model are mechanically the same, including the batteries. Do we know the actual technical difference between the 5000 and 10,000 model? Is The acreage coverage just a software restriction? Also, what happens if you try to mow more acres than your Luba model is rated for? Thank you so much for your thoughts
It is a software restriction in the acreage you can map. It likely has something to do with the memory capabilities for all the gps data.
On a side note, I think it would be difficult for one Luba to keep up with that size lawn. If you lose a few days due to rain in peak growing season, the grass can get out of control.
I think your best option is to run two robots.
Great video. The Luba looks like a fantastic machine, but I do have a couple concerns. I've used a Husqvarna robot for the past few mowing seasons. It's great when it works, but it's had major reliability issues. I can't count how many times it's been in the shop. So my primary concern is the Luba's reliability, and what do you do if it does need repair when you can't take it back to the dealer you bought it from? Also, does the RTK antenna need to be connected to power, or does it just need to be connected to the charging station with that cable?
Thanks for watching and checking in. I just finished filming an update video on the Luba.
To my knowledge, there is no service or repair parts available. If this is a concern, do not buy it. I bought it from Amazon and it shipped directly from Hong Kong, there is no dealer to contact.
The RTK antenna does need power. It can be plugged into the charging station or a separate power supply. The separate power supply was included in the main box and that is what I used to power the RTK.
What is the highest grass-cutting setting. I would like to cut high around 4 or 5 inches for St Augustine.
The standard model only cuts up to 2.7 inches but they now have a high cut model that increases that to 4.0 inches.
How’s this thing handle wet grass? My yard is always wet and mower clogging is a never ending nightmare. These blades don’t look very sturdy either. How often to you have to sharpen and replace them? I am lucky to get 2 mows out of a set of blades on my conventional mower before I have to re grind or replace them, those blades don’t look like they would last 10 minutes to me. Are they made of something special?
It handles wet grass well. It tends to lay the grass over and the deck needs to be cleaned occasionally but it cuts it fine.
The blades are a plated steel that is much sharper than a typical blade. There are four cutting edges on each blade so I rotate them about every month and a half. One set lasts the mowing season for me.
@@TheLawnEngineer Thanks I might get one of these things soon. By the time I’m done mowing I don’t have the time to do anything else like trimming, blowing, fertilizing, ect.
Company does not supply phone number, only email. They did supply the contact number for their dealer in Utah. After 9 calls and messages left with that company with no responses, I gave up on Luba
That is a common complaint, customer service doesn't exist for Mammotion.
Just wait till these mowers inherit the autonomous tech that's in cars, itll have its own set of eyes to see trees, flower beds, etc etc.
I completely agree, I’m looking forward to see what advances are made in the next few years.
Bluetooth is connected but app won’t go forward without dealing with SIM card. No mention of SIM card in manual, your help would be greatly appreciated!
There is “key” that must be inserted in the back of the mower, is that in place?
I know the charging base plugs into wall outlet but do u need to run power to rtk on roof or just the 10m cable that comes with it?
Yes, RTK must be powered. A separate power supply and 10m cable was provided. I plugged into an outlet at ground level and ran the cable along siding trim to the RTK.
Nice Video! Dose pine cone bother the LUBA?
Thank you. Yes, I think pine cones would mess with the Luba, you would have to clear away first.
Love the video, my choice is the Luba 5000 but, I have read that the company support is lacking. I know you just got it but have you had any experience with Mammotion support? That is the last item I need to understand before I purchase it.
I had not tried to use any customer service. However, based on what others have said; do not order if you are expected support after the sale. Wait until some bigger brands catch up.
These units are built and shipped directly from Hong Kong.
Just got my Luba 1000. What have you found to be the secret to get close to the perimeter without being too far from edge or too far away from edge. When tracing the perimeter do you find the perimeter comes from the center of the lube or the sides??
The perimeter is set from the side of the robot. The biggest secret is likely to design/change your landscape to allow you to drive the Luba over the edge without it getting stuck or damaged. This would involve setting edgers and driveway/roadway at the same elevation was the grass.
The robot follows the path (including direction) that was programmed when setting up the mow areas.
Great!
Thanks for checking in
who will collect the grass clippings?
I ran the robot several times a week so the grass clippings are quite small and break down in the lawn (just like mulching).
@@TheLawnEngineer It will begin to accumulate and turn yellow over time.
Will the mower stay off soil? When you start your mower for the first time. Do you have to walk behind it? I hope i dont have to stick that antenna on the roof. I'm old lol
It will not stay off soil. You have to drive it around with your phone the first time to set the boundaries.
You know... I have a horrible time with deer invading and uprooting my property at night. I wonder, if I had one of these and set it to mow certain areas around 1-2 am, if that would be helpful in discouraging pests like deer! LOL
That would help until they get use to it 🙃. I’ve noticed a few evening encounters and the deer didn’t love Luba but they didn’t run off either.
I think we need something motion activated…maybe some Halloween decorations.
Can someone with working Luba configuration on his yard tell me how many satellites can see/use on your phone (for Android you can use app 'gps test'), not sure about ios.
On my yard I can see 34, phone is locked to 10 of them (all this with offline mode, no help from wifi/mobile data). Is this good enough for Luba ? There are some trees in the yard.
I’ve tried an app for iOS. I’ve had as few as 6 satellites and as many as 14, seems to depend on the time of day. Luba is still working well for me.
Great video! You seem to live in a heavily wooded area like I do. How do you suppose this machine will handle leaves in the fall?
I think it will run them over fine but will not mulch well. I’m expecting my backpack blower to get a heavy workload this fall…but then again it does every year. I have more leaves than my lawn tractor could handle.
@@TheLawnEngineer ok thanks. Even though I cut my leaves into fine pieces, I have to dump them in the wooded part of my property…far too much to mulch. Without reducing the volume, it would become an enormous unsightly pile. I will be on the lookout for your workflow in this regard. If there is a good solution here, a robot could be an option for me in future.
Why would have to put in no zones around trees? Won't it just mow around it?
You don’t have to but it speeds things up a bit. Instead of the mower discovering it during mowing, the gps path is changed to go around from the start.
@@TheLawnEngineer do you have to walk it every time?
Do you set it the first time. Including the zones etc and then it goes on its own from then onwards? I know you have to start it but what do you expect after the startup.
@@charmainemorales3799 no, only the first time. You walk it around the boarders of the lawn so it creates a map of the area to be cut.
@@charmainemorales3799 you have summarized the process correctly
Is vi wi fi needed to work this lawnmower? .
Yes, you need wi-fi
Nope got them both.... no robot mower will ever be able to replace a seater...why..in my case ...leaves..
I'm going through the leaves now. I'm opting to use the backpack blower to remove them from the lawn, we will see if my opinion changes after two months of leaf duty.
I’ll never know if a Luba will work for me because their return policy is absolute bullshit. They only accept unopened boxes. I can test drive a vehicle, tour a house and even have an inspection done, but I can’t return an open box Luba if it can’t get good reception in my yard. It says to me they don’t have much faith in their product. I just returned an EcoFlow Blade after having it over a month for a full refund. Perhaps when they get their issues sorted out with their software I’ll just buy another Blade or a Yarbo if it ever gets released.
Agreed, I would not buy one and assume that you will get customer service. I’m excited to see the advances that are made in the next few years across bigger brands.
How does the RTK connect, to the base or it requires another power source?
Both. Standard is to connect to the charging base. Mine also came with the additional power source to mount it remotely.
The MAMMOTION website lists the additional power source as a free gift if you order now…I ordered from Amazon and it still came with the additional power source.
@@TheLawnEngineer did you ever encounter problem on blocked blades on the robot?
@@ricsuk yes I got an overload error on one of the blades. I took a look and there was a stick stuck above one of the cutting discs. I removed the stick resumes and life was good.
What? Do people really still do full unboxings?? So early 2000's. At the very least put chapters so we can skip over these bits.
RUclips didn’t exist in the early 2000’s 🤣
i think he is mistaking this for a luba5000 it looks like the cheaper model without the camera on top
This is a 2023 model Luba 5000 AWD. Mammotion added the vision system to the 2024 model and updated the name to Luba 2.
I feel like they could make actual blades not just razor blades lol.
The razor blades do look a little weak but they actually cut decent. I think the disc with small blades has much less aero drag than a conventional blade and increases run time.
Shovel?
No need, I have a shovel at the end of each arm 🤣
I'll keep waiting, it's dependence on wifi, gps, and the cell phone is just to much for me.
That’s a very reasonable stance. I am excited to see what comes out in the next few years.
Watching this while my Luba is sitting on the charger not charging. Customer service is not responding. It’s been four days.
Piece of junk, nonexistent customer service.
Don’t buy.
That sounds incredibly frustrating. I’m sure the customer service is not good. Probably have to return and try again or just go with a different brand.
God that was painful to watch
It was quite a process to get the robot working correctly.
These mowers look pathetic, the “before” and “after” looks exactly the same, ie it does not appear to cut the grass
It does lay some of the grass down because there is no airflow to lift the grass for cutting. It still cut decent and you can cross cut to clean things up.
Anyway, these are the worst robot mowers we are going to have…only going to get better.
waaaay to slow
It is slow but I’ve changed some settings to speed up significantly. I have 5 zones now and each one takes 1.5 to 2 hrs.