I had one for over 4 years. He loved night crawlers, I just lost him recently because the heaters in my tank quit working. I bought 2 more about 9 months ago both are doing great.
I had 2 electric blue Jack Dempseys in my old 46 gallon bowfront for like a year and they did pretty well. One of them was deformed and stayed small, but the other one grew pretty fast. Bought them at an inch and a half long, but by the time I got rid of them, the big non-deformed one was 6 1/2 inches long. The big one did end up eating an albino rainbow shark so I moved all of the other fish to my bigger community tank. I honestly wish I never got rid of them.
I’ve had my EBJD for 9 months in a 40 gallon breeder alone. He’s been doing well. But I have noticed that he is pretty skittish. If I make any quick movements around the tank, he’ll get spooked. He also doesn’t like trying a lot of new foods but I am working on that. He’s also very perceptive of what is going on outside of the tank, and glass surfs if he notices me moving around because he wants to be fed. Pretty cool fish, incredibly beautiful.
How big is it after 9 months? Mine it really skittish as well. I. Not sure if it just because it's still young and being skittish is still Instinctual? The easiest way to get a fish to eat new food is to not feed it for a couple days. Then feed the new food. I recently got my 1 inch amazon puffer on to a pellet diet. Your ebjd will definitely be protective. It is alone so it's not used to sharing anything. These guys are absolutely stunning it's a shame that have such low immune systems
I just put 6 juvenile ebjd’s in my 400 gallon pond 5 days ago. They all been swimming around good and healthy. I seen two of them lip locking. They are about an inch and a half long. I hope they make it as well as yours. This video gives me hope. Thanks for uploading
Hell yeah . Keep me updated on yours! I hope they work out for you. Thank you for telling me this gives you hope that alone made this video series worth it🙏🙏🙏
@@TheAquaPapa sup dude hope everything is going great with your life. It’s been a month since I added the six ebjd’s to my pond and I just recorded them all active today. Hopefully they keep this trend 👍. I hope your Ebjd is doing awesome 🤙
@@squeedikatako nice dude om glad to hear they are all doing well. Mine is still doing good it has been putting on A bit of size. And I'm almost positive it's female.
@@TheAquaPapa fun fact I talked to a guy about breeding You have to pair the EBJD with a normal Jack Dempsey for them to breed blue if you pair two blue ones together they will not breed blue
Yeah you got to catch flukes early. With ebjd it's really every illness poses a higher threat of death. The just don't have the immune system genetically
Awesome video brotha 💯 ! new sub here. Thanks for keeping it 💯 I agree with it being worth what you are willing to put into it. I had 3 and got 2 now none are adult size yet and are very chill(too chill) and color up real black. Lost the biggest Juvinile last night and other 2 are acting same as he did. I'm treating with metroplex by seachem and quarantined the 2 into a 10 gallon. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Im glad you enjoyed the video!🙏as for advice id say just try you best to keep the water conditions stable. Make sure to aren't feeding any frozen foods also once you got ebjd in a tank do add any other fish until its bigger.
The Electric blue Jack Dempsey is one of my favorite fish. I've had success in the past but my focus was wrong. Now I'll only stock fish no bigger then 8 to 10 inches
Definitely a great fish. One of my favorites as well. This one inn the video has grown to be a beautiful male and I got a reg jd female. Maybe I'll get to some breeding. Big fish are the way to go. Once I have a place i can put one I definitely what to get a 300gal plus to be stock with some biggins!
i've spend a good amount of money on electric blue jacks the last 8-10 years. over 80 EBJDs. tried everything. mixed them with small cichlids (apistos, rams) they died. oldest one got to about 3-3.5 months before expiring. mixed them with angels. death. 2-3 months. mixed them with normal JDs texas salvinis... death. 2 weeks to 1.5 month for the last EBJD. kept them with small dither tetras... 9 months the older one before expiring. my best attempt was in a single species aquarium. 400g with 10 of them. all of them reached at least ~1.2 years. Oldest one died at around the 18-20 month point. to cut a long story short they just cant live around other mix of cichlids.
Yeah ebjd are definitely a struggle. But I've personally noticed more and more people keeping them secsessfully. Both in single specimen tanks nd mixed tank. I think this goes to show an improvement in Genetics over the past 5 years or so. I'm I wouldn't go as far as saying they can't live with other cichlids I have a few friends that have ebjd. And 2 of them have them in communities. Other then the electric blue gene being recessive and needing to improve genetics. I think the key it's stability. Not just it water quality, but in tank temperament. If you can provide stability in water quality. Had keep the tank a stress free environment they tend to work out. That's why it's easier to keep them solo. When you keep them in communities. In my opinion what NEEDS to happen is that the ebjd needs to be either the tank boss or all the other fish Leave it alone. The big thing we really need is for anyone that get there Jack into that 4 inch range that fish needs to be bred with the regular jd. That's the only way they will get better immune systems.
@@TheAquaPapa dunno man, i've been trying any possible scenarios with them for a decade with no results as in longevity. and i love them to death. my next plan is to set up at least 10 different 75 gallons with certified JDs that hold the blue gene and try to breed my own EBJDs. thats my last attempt. thank god im still 32 lmao. oh as far as size and growth rate goes, they are slow growers, normal jacks growth rate is almost doubled the EBJDs. they also dont keep any kind of aggression, they can get dominated by the rare aggresive severum or angel. they are pretty docile and easy going. they be chillin most of the time. like you said the biggest problem is how fragile their immunity system is. thats the number one issue. every single EBJD tank i had , i had to be careful of its water parameters and temps 10 times more than the rest of my SA , CA cichlid tanks. i learned it real fast the first couple attempts at them i had (cuz they died pretty damn fast with no signs of attacks on them). My largets EBJD were 4 and 5" after almost 1.5 year. The normal jacks i bought at the same time were just over 6" at the same time. (their major growth rate difference where in their first 3-6 months where the jacks doubled their size in comparison to EBJDs then they slowed down)
Sounds like you're just doing something wrong as they can definitely live with other fish and on their own. I've grown out plenty with other things and currently have my 2 ebjd paired up with other fish. One to a flowerhorn and one to a siquia
Beauty man! Iv had some good success with the ebjd and some horrible experiences lol. In your opinion, would you think its better too keep them in a minimal tank until they hit thay safe 3 inch mark? Like, a 20 gal grow out
Thanks buddy. I like the way you out that " some good successes and horrible experiences" I think that will be the name of the last video in this series. To answer your question I'm not sure. I have a buddy that has his in a bare bottom alone. And it's growing and doing well its just the fish doesn't look great. Very washed out. That could just be the genes of the fish though. I think it's probably between having them as a single specimen in a bare bottom tank or. As I have mine. I figure in a heavily planted tank the parameters will be more stable. I have a feeling stability in water parameters is going to be key for early ages. Also it's probably a good thing to have them with other fish. If you planing on putting it in with other fish once it's an adult. I feel that if you do put adolescent ebjd with other fish. The other fish should pose zero threat. This will make the ebjd be the tank boss reducing stress levels and at the same time get them used to not being the only fish.
@@TheAquaPapa ahh ya, iv had amazing results in like a 20 gallon but it takes foreverrrrr to get them to the safe size. I noticed genes plays a huge role in them aswell. When they are under a inch they more less all look similar, but in my opinion you dont see any real defects in them until like 2 or 3 inchs. Iv had some real funky looking ebjds in my time lol (ugly but unique)
@@brandonrussell5787 hahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one that thi KS alot of these guys are funky looking hahaha. I have noticed with this individual it seems to be growing pretty fast. In comparison to my last ones
@The Aqua Papa Liked and subscribed 🤙 picked up a electric Blue Jack Dempsey a week ago. So far so good He is in with a German ram a pleco and 7 tetras Inside of a 55 gallon with plants. Would like to see him be a community fish so im trying your challenge hoping for the best 🤙
hell yeah that sounds like a good set up to start out with. I think having them with other fish is hugely beneficial. as long as the ebjd is the dominant fish and the others aren't stressing it out. I'm also hoping to eventually add mine to a community. good luck brotha. keep me updated. good luck. i
Mine ebjd is great he is probably about 5" or so. He is paired woth a reg female. And not agressive at all I have those two in a 75 with two of the red texas I bred and a pair of Geophagus sveni one is like 7 to 8 inch and the other is about 5 theu are the agressive ones in the tank.
I had the same thing happen to mine about 7-8 years ago when I was into the fish thing.. I bought 3 one died after a week then another a few days later and the last one lasted about 4 months and out of nowhere he died as well.. but yea about 7 years ago there was only 1 video out there
I just purchased my first electric blue jack Dempsey today and it was about $90 but it’s a 3 inch fish so hopefully it’s already past the dying stage! Definitely will update on how it goes!
I think that would depend on the individual. People say they are less aggressive the the regular jd but with mine I don't see it they seem to be just as agressive
I have a current spawn of a blue male and normal female...my blue male is about 7 inches and he is normal aggression and normal jack, I also have two smaller blues makes about 2 to 4 inches . I have had a total 6 at one point, 1 died from no apparent reason , 1 jump and unfortunately another was eaten....but from my experience a nice high protein diet seems to work good for them...I have feed them blood worms as there main dirt when there smaller then 2 inch and they thrived
@@TheAquaPapa very nice. best of luck, keep us updated please. I have one as well, have had it a little under a month and its doing great so far, got it when it was about 2in, right now it seems to be 2 1/2
I have had 5 all died with in weeks waste of money in my opinion. Dont mind hybrid fish i own a bu ch but the electric blue JDs are a waste imo. They are expensive but shiuld be cheap because how likely they will die
Ebjd aren't hybrid. The electric blue Gene is a natural color variation. It's just a double recessive gene. That gene makes it so their immune system isn't so strong. Which is why you don't see them in the wild. Well that and a the ones that don't die typically get eaten becuase theu are seen easier. The reason they are so expensive is because they die. In a clutch of fry you might only get one or 2 that live. So the breeder cares for the parents then cares for all the fry. Then the fry slowly die off. So the breeder needs to make the money back that it took to care for all the fry in 1 or 2 good fry.
I had one for over 4 years. He loved night crawlers, I just lost him recently because the heaters in my tank quit working. I bought 2 more about 9 months ago both are doing great.
I wish aquarium products would be like they used to be. And actually last. Good job on the jd
new to your channel i just got a Electric blue Jack Dempsey today and was looking on youtube for some vidoes. im now subscribed
Awsome! I'm glad you enjoyed the videos . I'll be uploading a new video on the EBJD soon keep your eyes peeled.
Thanks for subscribing! 🙏🙏🙏
I had 2 electric blue Jack Dempseys in my old 46 gallon bowfront for like a year and they did pretty well. One of them was deformed and stayed small, but the other one grew pretty fast. Bought them at an inch and a half long, but by the time I got rid of them, the big non-deformed one was 6 1/2 inches long. The big one did end up eating an albino rainbow shark so I moved all of the other fish to my bigger community tank. I honestly wish I never got rid of them.
I’ve had my EBJD for 9 months in a 40 gallon breeder alone. He’s been doing well. But I have noticed that he is pretty skittish. If I make any quick movements around the tank, he’ll get spooked. He also doesn’t like trying a lot of new foods but I am working on that. He’s also very perceptive of what is going on outside of the tank, and glass surfs if he notices me moving around because he wants to be fed. Pretty cool fish, incredibly beautiful.
How big is it after 9 months? Mine it really skittish as well. I. Not sure if it just because it's still young and being skittish is still Instinctual?
The easiest way to get a fish to eat new food is to not feed it for a couple days. Then feed the new food. I recently got my 1 inch amazon puffer on to a pellet diet.
Your ebjd will definitely be protective. It is alone so it's not used to sharing anything. These guys are absolutely stunning it's a shame that have such low immune systems
@@TheAquaPapa both my full grown electric blue jack demseys are skittish too, any movement near the tank and they start swimming crazy
I just put 6 juvenile ebjd’s in my 400 gallon pond 5 days ago. They all been swimming around good and healthy. I seen two of them lip locking. They are about an inch and a half long. I hope they make it as well as yours. This video gives me hope. Thanks for uploading
Hell yeah . Keep me updated on yours! I hope they work out for you.
Thank you for telling me this gives you hope that alone made this video series worth it🙏🙏🙏
@@TheAquaPapa yessir definitely 🤙
@@TheAquaPapa sup dude hope everything is going great with your life. It’s been a month since I added the six ebjd’s to my pond and I just recorded them all active today. Hopefully they keep this trend 👍. I hope your Ebjd is doing awesome 🤙
@@squeedikatako nice dude om glad to hear they are all doing well. Mine is still doing good it has been putting on A bit of size. And I'm almost positive it's female.
@@TheAquaPapa fun fact I talked to a guy about breeding You have to pair the EBJD with a normal Jack Dempsey for them to breed blue if you pair two blue ones together they will not breed blue
100th Like! Ya welcome, lol. Good video, man!
Hahaha. Thank you!
gill flukes are known to kill immediately or over time and do damage to their gills
Yeah you got to catch flukes early. With ebjd it's really every illness poses a higher threat of death. The just don't have the immune system genetically
Awesome video brotha 💯 ! new sub here.
Thanks for keeping it 💯 I agree with it being worth what you are willing to put into it. I had 3 and got 2 now none are adult size yet and are very chill(too chill) and color up real black. Lost the biggest Juvinile last night and other 2 are acting same as he did. I'm treating with metroplex by seachem and quarantined the 2 into a 10 gallon. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Im glad you enjoyed the video!🙏as for advice id say just try you best to keep the water conditions stable. Make sure to aren't feeding any frozen foods also once you got ebjd in a tank do add any other fish until its bigger.
The Electric blue Jack Dempsey is one of my favorite fish. I've had success in the past but my focus was wrong. Now I'll only stock fish no bigger then 8 to 10 inches
Definitely a great fish. One of my favorites as well. This one inn the video has grown to be a beautiful male and I got a reg jd female. Maybe I'll get to some breeding.
Big fish are the way to go. Once I have a place i can put one I definitely what to get a 300gal plus to be stock with some biggins!
Those electric blue Jack Dempsey's are very cool do not let nobody boss you around❤
i've spend a good amount of money on electric blue jacks the last 8-10 years.
over 80 EBJDs. tried everything.
mixed them with small cichlids (apistos, rams) they died. oldest one got to about 3-3.5 months before expiring.
mixed them with angels. death. 2-3 months.
mixed them with normal JDs texas salvinis... death. 2 weeks to 1.5 month for the last EBJD.
kept them with small dither tetras... 9 months the older one before expiring.
my best attempt was in a single species aquarium. 400g with 10 of them. all of them reached at least ~1.2 years. Oldest one died at around the 18-20 month point.
to cut a long story short they just cant live around other mix of cichlids.
Yeah ebjd are definitely a struggle. But I've personally noticed more and more people keeping them secsessfully. Both in single specimen tanks nd mixed tank. I think this goes to show an improvement in Genetics over the past 5 years or so.
I'm I wouldn't go as far as saying they can't live with other cichlids
I have a few friends that have ebjd. And 2 of them have them in communities. Other then the electric blue gene being recessive and needing to improve genetics. I think the key it's stability. Not just it water quality, but in tank temperament. If you can provide stability in water quality. Had keep the tank a stress free environment they tend to work out. That's why it's easier to keep them solo.
When you keep them in communities. In my opinion what NEEDS to happen is that the ebjd needs to be either the tank boss or all the other fish Leave it alone.
The big thing we really need is for anyone that get there Jack into that 4 inch range that fish needs to be bred with the regular jd. That's the only way they will get better immune systems.
@@TheAquaPapa dunno man, i've been trying any possible scenarios with them for a decade with no results as in longevity. and i love them to death.
my next plan is to set up at least 10 different 75 gallons with certified JDs that hold the blue gene and try to breed my own EBJDs. thats my last attempt. thank god im still 32 lmao.
oh as far as size and growth rate goes, they are slow growers, normal jacks growth rate is almost doubled the EBJDs.
they also dont keep any kind of aggression, they can get dominated by the rare aggresive severum or angel. they are pretty docile and easy going. they be chillin most of the time.
like you said the biggest problem is how fragile their immunity system is. thats the number one issue.
every single EBJD tank i had , i had to be careful of its water parameters and temps 10 times more than the rest of my SA , CA cichlid tanks. i learned it real fast the first couple attempts at them i had (cuz they died pretty damn fast with no signs of attacks on them).
My largets EBJD were 4 and 5" after almost 1.5 year. The normal jacks i bought at the same time were just over 6" at the same time. (their major growth rate difference where in their first 3-6 months where the jacks doubled their size in comparison to EBJDs then they slowed down)
Sounds like you're just doing something wrong as they can definitely live with other fish and on their own. I've grown out plenty with other things and currently have my 2 ebjd paired up with other fish. One to a flowerhorn and one to a siquia
Subscribed to you channel. Good content. Aqua funk recommended you channel
Thanks man I'm glad you enjoy the channel 🙏
@@TheAquaPapa always great to see how others do things and learn.
I agree. The best part is that. Most everybody does things a different way then the next guy.
Just got one. He's in a 32 gallon tank. My last Jack Dempsey lived 7 years. Hopping this guy will be around a while
Good luck my friend
They are really cool just follow your dreams man
Beauty man! Iv had some good success with the ebjd and some horrible experiences lol. In your opinion, would you think its better too keep them in a minimal tank until they hit thay safe 3 inch mark? Like, a 20 gal grow out
Thanks buddy. I like the way you out that " some good successes and horrible experiences" I think that will be the name of the last video in this series.
To answer your question I'm not sure. I have a buddy that has his in a bare bottom alone. And it's growing and doing well its just the fish doesn't look great. Very washed out.
That could just be the genes of the fish though. I think it's probably between having them as a single specimen in a bare bottom tank or. As I have mine. I figure in a heavily planted tank the parameters will be more stable. I have a feeling stability in water parameters is going to be key for early ages. Also it's probably a good thing to have them with other fish. If you planing on putting it in with other fish once it's an adult. I feel that if you do put adolescent ebjd with other fish. The other fish should pose zero threat. This will make the ebjd be the tank boss reducing stress levels and at the same time get them used to not being the only fish.
And yeas I would definitely start them off in a grow out tank that is very easy to maintain and keep stable
@@TheAquaPapa ahh ya, iv had amazing results in like a 20 gallon but it takes foreverrrrr to get them to the safe size. I noticed genes plays a huge role in them aswell. When they are under a inch they more less all look similar, but in my opinion you dont see any real defects in them until like 2 or 3 inchs. Iv had some real funky looking ebjds in my time lol (ugly but unique)
@@brandonrussell5787 hahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one that thi KS alot of these guys are funky looking hahaha. I have noticed with this individual it seems to be growing pretty fast. In comparison to my last ones
@The Aqua Papa Liked and subscribed 🤙 picked up a electric Blue Jack Dempsey a week ago. So far so good He is in with a German ram a pleco and 7 tetras Inside of a 55 gallon with plants. Would like to see him be a community fish so im trying your challenge hoping for the best 🤙
hell yeah that sounds like a good set up to start out with. I think having them with other fish is hugely beneficial. as long as the ebjd is the dominant fish and the others aren't stressing it out. I'm also hoping to eventually add mine to a community. good luck brotha. keep me updated.
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How was your ebjd I got one six months ago for free. She does well with my angels and tetras. She is doing well not aggressive at all
Mine ebjd is great he is probably about 5" or so. He is paired woth a reg female. And not agressive at all I have those two in a 75 with two of the red texas I bred and a pair of Geophagus sveni one is like 7 to 8 inch and the other is about 5 theu are the agressive ones in the tank.
I had the same thing happen to mine about 7-8 years ago when I was into the fish thing.. I bought 3 one died after a week then another a few days later and the last one lasted about 4 months and out of nowhere he died as well.. but yea about 7 years ago there was only 1 video out there
I just purchased my first electric blue jack Dempsey today and it was about $90 but it’s a 3 inch fish so hopefully it’s already past the dying stage! Definitely will update on how it goes!
From what I've been told 3 inches is that "safe" spot, And 90 bucks isn't bad for a 3 inch ebjd. Definitely keep me up dated. Good luck!🙏🙏🙏🤙
You got robbed bro 😂
I have 3 inches 3 of them if u want to breed together
Straight robbery
😂😂😂😂
My edjd is two years old and has a under bite but he grew up with my Oscar’s and is doing very well
Just bought 2
🙏Hope I still have 2 in a year 👍
Good luck buddy. Ebjd are so worth it
best looking fish
Is the EBJD mild enough to go in a community planted tank with tetras, killifish, dwarf cichlids and angels?
I think that would depend on the individual. People say they are less aggressive the the regular jd but with mine I don't see it they seem to be just as agressive
ANY fish will eat ANY other fish that can fit in their mouth.
Mines not aggressive yet but I have a backup plan I have a 75 gallon set up since I upgraded to 150. The blue Acara is more aggressive then my ebjd.
I have a current spawn of a blue male and normal female...my blue male is about 7 inches and he is normal aggression and normal jack, I also have two smaller blues makes about 2 to 4 inches . I have had a total 6 at one point, 1 died from no apparent reason , 1 jump and unfortunately another was eaten....but from my experience a nice high protein diet seems to work good for them...I have feed them blood worms as there main dirt when there smaller then 2 inch and they thrived
Oh p.s....i never seen a female blue jack...so maybe males are more common then as a blue...
what is the ph and hardness of the water?
Sorry for the late response
Ph is 7.5
Hardness is 180
Ok so all of your original Electric blue Jacks did die it seems and you are trying again right?
Correct and this time my ebjd is now about 3 inches they others didn't last much past 1 inch
@@TheAquaPapa very nice. best of luck, keep us updated please.
I have one as well, have had it a little under a month and its doing great so far, got it when it was about 2in, right now it seems to be 2 1/2
I have had 5 all died with in weeks waste of money in my opinion. Dont mind hybrid fish i own a bu ch but the electric blue JDs are a waste imo. They are expensive but shiuld be cheap because how likely they will die
Ebjd aren't hybrid. The electric blue Gene is a natural color variation. It's just a double recessive gene. That gene makes it so their immune system isn't so strong. Which is why you don't see them in the wild. Well that and a the ones that don't die typically get eaten becuase theu are seen easier.
The reason they are so expensive is because they die.
In a clutch of fry you might only get one or 2 that live. So the breeder cares for the parents then cares for all the fry. Then the fry slowly die off.
So the breeder needs to make the money back that it took to care for all the fry in 1 or 2 good fry.
Ok but then you pay over the odds for them and they die within a few weeks of adding them to your tank they are a waste of money@@TheAquaPapa
male or female ?
Not sure yet I will be venting soon