The Sense Of Speed In This Game Is UNREAL
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2023
- This is an educational video on how NOT to lap the TT Isle of Man circuit.
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If you wanna watch someone thats good at this game then I highly recommend checking out GPLaps' video!
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They’ve just released Hicky’s onboard of his 136.538mph lap on TT plus. (Free to sign up)
Hey Jimmer! Regarding that "amazed" face in the thumbnail. Please don't, mate! That shit is for nobodies wannabe youtubers, not for legends like you! Fuck that stupid shit, mate! I would really hate to unsubscribe, just because i cannot stand that shit, and i'm pretty sure many others feel the same. You're much better than that, Jimmer! Cheers!
16’36.114 is the lap time of Hickman’s lap , records can only be set in a race and not practice , this lap was set on the final lap of the senior TT 14:32 in your video says no official time
What is the name of this game?
As someone who has first hand experience with the TT and various other road racing circuits across mainly Ireland and the UK, and these kind of bikes I can say with confidence that this game is very good at simulating the ease of which these bikes get unsettled at low and high speed's. Also the visuals blurring and lighting is nearly spot on, maybe a little over exaggerated.
It is extremely easy to throw one of these bikes down the road and at a place like Isle of man, that is a very easy way to get yourself Un-alived.
Ive lost 3 very close friends to road racing. I won't share there names but 2 at the TT and one at the North West 200. And I almost lost my father. Luckily he's still with us and 100% fit and well.
I love the bike content and appreciation Jimmer! If you ever decide you do want a go on a race bike, be it on road or off id be happy to help you out!
Sorry for your loss
keep it shiny side up brother
Sorry for your loss mate, I lost a close friend to a to big bike with to little experience.
Like most folks Jimmy is turning in much to late when going fast, 2 wheels very different than 4, weight distribution happens very differently between cars and bikes because the contact patch Isnt limited to the face of the tyre, but on the edges as well.
Leaning is just as important as steering.
as someone who used to ride bikes, i find videogames cant really deliver the sensation of riding a bike. for cars its close, but bikes always feel way more wonky. i think while you get a good understanding of a car through the steering wheel, the handle of the bike is only like 15% of the feedback you get from it. might be a good simulation, but delivering the simulation to the user is lacking big time
jimmer! TAKE THIS OFFER UP. sorry for your loss vmxracer651
One fact which perfectly sums up how wild the Isle of Man TT is:
the cushions and straw bales aren't supposed to protect the riders when they crash into a lamppost at 200 miles per hour. They are there to protect the lamppost. The rider has no chance either way
Not at those speeds, no. And they are all keenly aware of it.
Why say something so ridiculous. Not every crash is at 200 mph, some of the bales and protection is there for when someone has an upset at lower speeds, the cushions aren't great but they're better than slamming your spine into a stone wall. In some cases they're there to try and control the bike so it doesn't spray as much debris and go flying uncontrolled into the spectators. Nobody cares about a lamp post, if a lamp post gets taken out they'll just replace it. Cars and bikes crash all the time all over the world, governments around the world haven't put up bales and cushions to protect their precious lampposts.
Not knowing the stats, I was always amazed people weren't getting killed, after hearing the stats I am amazed they let this race take place.
I mean they are getting killed...
@@patricktho6546thats what hes saying mate
It's the last real race on the planet. There's an appeal and everyone knows exactly what they're getting into. I hope it never changes. Not for the spectator, but for the thing it represents. We've removed so many dangers and made it all too safe.
I believe only 1 person died this year... that's a win for this event.
They canceled the event for a few years because of all the deaths but brought it back after a 3 year hiatus.
I race bikes and even have a championship under my belt, and I have to say, this game is HARD. Also yes, on bikes you need to set up much before you actually start a corner, getting your body in position and the weight balanced correctly to then set the suspension and enter the corner. I think the game mechanics expect the same but it's hard to wrap your mind around when you're just holding a controller.
A good friend of mine is prototyping a new motorcycle sim rig. If you're at all interested I can send you some videos of it.
I would love to know more about the motorcycle sim rig, if you're up for telling about it.
Always been curious about bike sim rigs. The closest I've ever seen anything like it is an arcade machine that isn't simulation at all and some driving school that had a handlebar hooked up to a computer. You sit on a wooden kitchen chair. Not really realistic either.
@@ryanblumenow A tilt controller is about as realistic as it gets. The sit ons just feel wierd.
This sim rig isn't anything like the arcade machines or even the expensive ones like moto trainer. The project was started because all the current attempts to simulate racing a motorcycle seem to forget to do the most important thing... make it feel natural. So far in our eyes every single sim rig as got it wrong from the very start. The one in development, even powered, can be rode like you were actually on a bike. Powered it's basically identical.
Sorry if I can't go into detail on the construction and design, I think its pretty obvious as to why that is.
Would be great seeing the mc sim rig! Always wanted to see one of those.
Faster than Duke Media can put in a copyright strike.
Max speed! 😂😂
Real ones remember
Who's that
Ah man are Duke still about???
If the thought is welcome, I'd very much point you towards spending some time learning motorcycles. You can learn a *lot* about weight, brake distribution, and momentum management, consistent throttle in turns, and so on. I wouldn't say go race and push your limits, but consider taking a safety course, finding a nice comfy (comfy doesn't have to mean fast!) bike and a safety squad to ride with and go explore the countryside! It's a new way to enjoy something you already love :)
I don't ride, but yeah, I can't imagine a better place to understand weight transfer and its effect on grip than bikes wherein YOU are the weight, and need to actively manage your body placement to get the most out of the machinery.
...Or maybe Sidecar racing but we're all in agreement that they're absolute psychopaths, yeah?
Biking is indescribable really.
You'll never feel as connected to the road and scenery around you with any other vehicle, is the best I can do.
A 125cc supermoto-anything (not chinese) is essentially the 1.6 Mx5 of motorcycles. You never really are going fast enough to do any real damage, unless you fall asleep at the wheel throttle pinned, and all the grip and fun you could ever want... until you get used to the power and start looking at 450cc race bikes and tyre warmers. lol
Cheaper than cars and you can fit more of them in the same livingroo... er.. space.
Best hobby ever. 😁
Definitely made me a better car driver too.
it'd be fun to watch Jimmer try and play MX Bikes
it would be an instant classic - goblin game for goblin brain
Death on every turn and jump. Kinda want to see that.
Same for GP Bikes
@@pek7629 Second the gp bikes suggestion
@@pek7629 Hello
@@pek7629 i got another channel where I played with GP bikes bikes and isle of man circuit on MX bikes. might reply to this comment later if you want to see it.
…as evidenced in your video the bike also seems to pivot about its center of gravity - the bottom washes to the outside of the turn, the top leans to the inside and the middle stays right about where it started.
It’s like juggling a hockey stick with a 50lb weight on one end.
Also, the fascinating thing about a motorcycle’s handling is that they are a product of their primitive technology. Riders have gotten so used to their weaknesses that they have developed their riding styles to exploit the bike’s weaknesses. The forks flex, the steering rake changes when the bike brakes hard, so turn in is LIGHTNING fast when braking. And to get the bike to rotate you either have to hang all the way off OR throttle up and get the rear wheel spinning.
It’s uncanny, and extremely dangerous/
you have pretty much summed it... As a biker I can only say don't try to trail brake until you have some experience, if by any chance you try to add lean angle as you have your front wheel full loaded for hard braking you're going to loose the front. So yeah, this bikes are land rockets, but every single motorbike can feel like a beast to tame
Any free body will rotate around its centre of mass when a moment is applied. Riders make excellent use of that fact when countersteering.
Think body roll in a car. Except here it's on purpose and you want to roll in the direction you want to go. So you turn the bars left to roll right, gets you aroubd the right turn.
As for balance, the rake angle on the front takes care of that. The way it's set up, the wheel tries to turn into any lean, thereby correcting it. Essentially static stability. But it only works when you're going faster than 15-20 mph. Less than that and you have to stabilise it yourself.
The more rake angle you have - the more static stability there is. And it's harder to tip in at speed. So racing bikes have a bit (or a lot) less. But still you have to countersteer quite a bit harder to lean them over at TT speeds vs regular road speeds.
Body position is also important. In a nutshell it allows you to lean the bike less for the same turn. So you can turn tighter or go faster.
I've been riding motorcycles for over 10yrs and been track riding and racing for 2 yrs.... I would be terrified to do this in real life!!!!
i'm terrified just watching it.
TT racers are a very special breed indeed.
If you can you should also take a look at Ride 4. You can run the Nordschleife on something like the Ninja H2R which has whistly turbo wheezing noises and boasts around 300 bhp. The handling in that game is a little more forgiving too, not as feisty as Isle of Man TT.
Would also love to see you try to do motorriding in real life, but stay safe :)
Supercharger not turbo :) but yes absolutely should look into Ride4
Today i spent 18 minutes of my life watching an english man falling off a green mosquito on wheels and i loved it😂
Riding in twisties, or "side to side" as you've put it just comes naturally. I'm am not brained enough to explain. It's just a feeling. At some point, after loosing fear of riding and enjoying every aspect of it, you become one with your bike. You actually use your body to turn, unlike a car.
Edit: Yes Jimmy, go for CBT, get a feel for what's it like to ride
I don’t ride motorbikes, but i am pretty comfortable on a road (pedal) bike, and yeah… it’s not something you can put into words, you just sorta do it. I’ve been riding a TT bike a lot recently and have completely lost my sense of cornering, it’s the weirdest thing.
The way I've heard it explained is bikes always want to go straight. I've never rode in real life (I value my collarbone too much) but playing games makes me want to anticipate the corners more than in a car. I'd imagine that anticipation is something that comes naturally.
Yep exactly. It's the closest thing to telepathy or becoming a cyborg - one with the bike as you say.
Pretty sure this is why motorcycle games never feel good or even remotely like riding a bike to me too.
@@Bassalicious Yeah, I've tried this game, but I just couldn't get a handle of the bike. It's the same on motogp 23 for me too
Riding a real motorcycle is super super fun. Once you get up over 15-20 mph you actually turn the handlebars in the opposite direction of the way you want to turn to make the bike lean. You can shift your body weight around to completely change the way the bike handles. I also think he should give it a try. In USA you can go to the MSF Safety Course (in PA its free!) and get like 5 or 6 hours of seat time and learn everything, they start you off walking the bike across the course just feathering the clutch and by the end you will be doing figure 8s inside a tiny box. I like to go and do it every 3-4 years so I can thrash a little 250 Honda Rebel for free.
Already watched 57 times, can certify this is a jimmer classic
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The numbers add up. Nothing to see here folks
@@pjetrs shush. He's a time traveler
0:10 sonic riders music, this man has the ultimate taste
I love how the bike banks around the centre of the screen, not where it's wheels touch the ground. There is some serious anti-gravity tech going on there.
Honestly think a Jimmy Broadbent X Guy Martin collab/project would make for some amazing content
Guy takes Jimmy around the Isle of Man on a sidecar and Jimmy gets to take Guy on the Nordschleife. 😂
Jimmy x RoyalJordanian!
Raced bikes IRL for a fair few years, did about 120ish races. It’s definitely easier to gauge your timing IRL. The way you steer a bike is by pushing the bar closest to the corner, away from you, effectively turning the opposite way. That’s why the onboard almost looks like the bike is swinging around the camera. This means the bike falls into the corner, obviously you can do it by just muscling your way down, but counter steering is much quicker. It’s so violent sometimes that you can feel the bend in the handlebars at high speed fast changes of direction and bars completely snapping in this situation has happened too. (Leon Haslam coming into Sterling, Brands Hatch ~2019/20 I think)
Worth experiencing bikes one day, there’s absolutely nothing like it and nothing more thrilling!
Brilliant video Jimmer!! I would recommend to anyone to take a riding course and get the license. Riding is incredible and the people who race the TT ARE incredible. I watch it every year and im still in awe of what they do
To think Peter Hickman got this years lap record (136.358 mph) on a superstock bike, 😮
I test rode that in stock form and it was scary how fast it made you. It was so perfectly setup, that you were doing well over a ton before you noticed the speed. It is just nuts how easy it is to ride.
It's nice to see this kind of variety in content, and great to see the Isle of Man TT from a race car driver's perspective.
There's a sidecar DLC for this game (or maybe a different game in this series) that would be interesting to see you and another driver/RUclipsr co-op.
I like that Jimmer mentioned how you just operate differently on a bike, it's like a dance or something. You have to work within its limitations but it's entirely up to you to figure out where they are. Riding is where I'm at my absolute best.
sometimes it just flows
2023 edition was one of the cleanest ones, with only 1 death in 2 weeks of event, it was the spaniard Raul Torras, he appeared on the game
YESSS been waiting for this vid, cracking vid as always jimmer
Love the bike content! I ride motorcycles but I can't explain the madness that goes into this level of riding.
This was a good watch. Being from the Isle of Man and seeing the TT every year also riding motorbikes my self.
What Jimmer says around 13:30 shows that he understands the love people have for their bike. That driving experience is slower in real life when I drive but the love described is just the same. It’s also extremely helpful for my mental health. I tune out of everything else and try to become one with my bike. I think what this game communicates well is when you drive the perfect line and nail a corner. So satisfying!
I love the one-corner-one-crash approach to a new sim experience.
GEEZ, when you were talking about the Sense of Speed I just chalked it up to RUclips talk, but you were not kidding! I am just watching you and I get the feel of speed and am flinching at somethings. I can't imagine trying this irl.
More of this please
Love the iom tt vids jimmer keep em comin❤
Loved the 'Lamb Post' sticker at start of video. Made me chuckle more than it should haha
Jimmer going to this event should be no 1 on your bucket list went this year after watching on tv and listening on manx radio your mind is blown when the 1st bike goes past you at 130mph+ on a single track road these boys have huge balls
One of the things about the rhythm of riding a bike on twisting turns is that you're not just using the handlebars to steer, you're moving your whole entire body left and right with the curves. If you imagine that you have to shift from hanging all the way off the bike to the left ALL THE WAY to hanging off to the right, you can imagine that it's not an incredible fast movement. You have gyroscopic forces you're fighting against as well. If you keep in mind that from "steering" (with the analog stick) left to right, the motorcycle isn't just being turned left to right, but the rider is completely shifting their body, it can help you visualize how to flow through corners. You have to realize that it's not instant, but a gradual shift in the turn.
You definitely should do your CBT, it won't give you the feeling of a big bike, but I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy the sense of freedom you feel inside your lid.
That was brilliant, Jimmy!
Thanks for helping us, bike sim fans! It's a probably a niched type of game, therefore there aren't as many options as car sims. So having a big content creator such as you playing these games is fantastic.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers.
Yeeesss, bike content! It would be so cool for you to summarize the bike racing games, review old classics such as GP500 or Superbike 2001 (my fav), and dig into what it takes to go really fast in modern games (MotoGP, MX Bikes, GP Bikes). Props for this vid!
“There’s a grey blur and a green one. I try to stay on the grey one” - Joey Dunlop
been out for 30 seconds and already recommended on the home page lol
I've been looking into getting a bike this week then Jimmer posts this, the universe has spoken.
Motorcycling is one of the most intense but blissful things to do.
Regarding cornering, you want to keep steady throttle until you get to your acceleration point and as you accelerate, the bike will want to stand itself up
Jimmy learning how to ride a motorbike, and then doing a track day (at beginner level of course), would make for an incredible video series :)
You say you tend to put yourself in the mind of the driver/rider as if it's real, even though it's only a sim.
Occurs to me, that's probably a significant part of why your sim racing skills have translated so well to IRL racing. And especially why you didn't just die when you started driving proper fast for real.
Anyway yeah, respect for that. And this is a great video, and jeez those guys are a different breed.
7:06 theres a thing that the pro riders do called pre turning. They turn in early then accelerate again and then turn in for the actual corner. And on the big 1000s they actually point and shoot tighter corners as well.
Im a lifelong car lover and have picked up motorcycle riding a year ago, and i can say that riding motorcycles is one of the most fun things ever. It’s something everybody should experience. I still like cars more than motorcycles to be honest, but now i can’t live without either of them.
Riding on the Isle of Man in RL would be a dream, but only on normal speeds.
If a car racing sim is a painting of a race car going around a circuit then a motorcycle sim is a painting of someone riding a unicycle while balancing a ball on their nose. Still very difficult to do but it has very little in common with the real thing.
This game really captures the senses of speed and danger well but no motorcycle racing game has ever felt good to play to me. I started riding motorcycles over 15 years ago and I love racing games / sims but bikes just seem to be impossible to get "right" in a game. (no idea what that means btw it's a feel thing)
Riding a bike is a full body experience. Like riding a bicycle. You don't think about where to point the front wheel in order to go a certain direction - you just do what the bike needs.
The motorcycle will tell you what it needs so clearly that it may as well have been your own body letting you know that your arm can't bend any further. Other times, especially if you're pushing it, everything is fine until it isn't. The TT guys knowingly pushing the limits with all that furniture around is just nuts. My absolute biggest respect to them and their families. Hats off
i used to play GP500 along with GP3 and GPL. Leaning forwards and using the contoller on tilt helped me.
Imagine this game in VR
I'm unsure whether this is a brilliant or horrible idea.
I get kinda queasy driving formula 1 cars in VR, this would be terrible 😂
While the graphics are nowhere near this level, we have this track and dozens more in GP Bikes which does support VR, and it is a-fucking-mazing.
The Ride series would be the greatest game ever in VR. I live in hope
@@Bassalicious I'M SOLD
JIMMER NEEDS TO GET HIS CBT!
With bikes you want a later apex. It's really important to make as long of a straight line as possible because they accelerate so quick.
Fun fact, motorcycles accelerate faster in a turn on the side of its tire. It plays into the gear ratio and the smaller circumference of the outside edges of the tire gives it a shorter gear ratio, meaning stronger acceleration. This means it's important to accelerate before you even get out of the turn (in a competition)
I’d say from someone who has ridden bikes for a long time, driving a bike in a game is different then a car and a car game. With a car game, the feeling of the weight transfer and how it is responding can be somewhat ignored, or replicated. A bike, that isn’t possible and it’s essential which is why it’s hard to feel when you are tipping, when you should turn in and how hard.
2:25 Those animations had me rolling on the floor. 'You at the back, what are you doing with that wrench? At the front, are you just scratching the windscreen with a screwdriver?'
15:15 As someone who's training for an unrestricted A license, I absolutely support this. Once you try it, you'll either be hooked, or you'll be terrified, but at least you tried.
need this in VR for sure
My buddy had an off on the Isle of man. (the year before covid hit)
He was doing around 120mph and the bike stepped sideways.
Then in his words... It went in slow mo.
He hit the floor and kicked the bike away. Then slid on his back with his eyes closed.
And he came to a stop.
Bike was in bits.
His leathers, back protector and helmet was trashed and now live in a display case along with a photo of him sliding on his back in a cloud of bike shrapnel that someone took.
He walked away with a bruise on his bum and leg... and he tore to nail off his little finger.
That was it.
I also enjoyed the TT Superbike games (X3) on the PS2. Racing at the IOM track, the North West, Ulster GP, Macau and Oliver's Mount tracks too. They were decent.
Love this game I remember being so proud when I finally did one clean lap without coming off I also visited the Isle of Man for the TT a few years ago was one of the best experiences of my life truly is the pinnacle of motorsport racing for me
Ngl I'd love to see Jimmer on something like a lil 300 just vibing through the mountains and hopefully not dying.
I spent a lot of time driving it in Assetto Corsa and omg it's insane. Some of the spots are just like, such sudden sharp turns after literally miles of flooring it in max gear.
I'd love to see this sort of thing be put in to VR. As someone who has watched these bikes in person, the speed they go past is insane and you really need to see it live to appreciate just what these fellas are actually doing. With VR, it'd be the closest most of us would get to actually experiencing what its like on the bike itself.
Check out GP Bikes then (not the base game mind you, the modding community makes the game). I have over 700hrs VR game play, racing everything from 250cc road bikes to MotoGP legends around local roads I created through to the best known tracks in the world. It is edge of the seat stuff.
Jimmy, the TT is not the last of its kind. The Northwest 200 in Northern Ireland is also on public roads and they race against each other. Many TT riders use this as a practice event for the big one the TT
“One of the last of its kind”
I was a teenager at school in Belfast when Joey Dunlop died. The shock it caused in the community cannot be overstated, pretty much all the teachers put aside that days lesson as it was all anyone wanted to talk about. During the troubles, NI hosting these events and our local heroes held us together. Like the IoM we exist in this unique position where races that would have ended long ago still take place.
Loved this video jimmy even though I prefer the 4 wheel stuff too.
Love the sense of speed (and danger) - biggest gripe is that yes, when you are going fast you better be tucked in behind the windscreen, but turning on a bike involves moving your upper body, and seeing a bike leaned way over without the head of the rider moving out from behind the windscreen kills it for me. You need a control system where one thumbstick controls the lean angle of the bike, and the other thumbstick determines the rider's position on the bike.
Jimmy have you every thought of reaching out to fellow SIM racers for follow ups to videos like this. Getting a replay of them doing a lap when it's the SIM they race in and reviewing an "experts" lap.
I love watching you doing these videos and giving your reactions when you "driving" and giving history. And when you have reacted to Peters real life lap. And would love to see you reacting to a top SIM racer doing it. (And yes you are a top SIM racer, just not when it comes to TT. 😂)
May this event be hosted forever 🙏 absolute best of motorsport
jimmy is the only person i have seen trying to drive a superbike like a rally car :D
I would recommend going to see a BSB race. I've been to cadwell Park to watch British Superbikes, and it is possibly the best spectator experience just because of the proximity to the track
Jimmer doing a ride IRL with Super GT on Honda Groms? hell yeah, those bikes are a blast
A quote from the TT-
I used to lean my helmet against the ivy because I liked the sound it would make as it went across my helmet. Years later, I walked the track and found out there was a stone wall behind the ivy.
The tires have plenty of grip and it's not about the contact patch. Modern track day tires that anyone can buy will get you to about 1.7g in a corner leaning at around 55 degrees. Braking we can only hit about 1g before the rear tire comes off the ground and steering takes a bit longer than a car.
It is really hard in game with a controller. It's much more intuitive in real life. VIR North is fun and I actually used Ride 5 to learn the track before doing my first track day there.
Isle of Man is absolutely insane. Just watching it pumps up your adrenaline to astonomical levels. Jimmer you should do a sesh with Guy Martin.
Every experienced car driver (think 10 years plus) that came to me and said "I'm getting my bike licence", my reply is always it will improve your driving. None of them believe me, but a year on from passing their test and with some mileage on their own bike behind them they come back and say, " WOW, my driving has gotten better." Bikes teach you so much, things you thought you knew will be refined or even redefined. Be they smoother throttle control, braking technique, even road reading skills & instant decision making, that beforehand you thought were good will all simply just step up a notch. It may even aid your real world racing career as you learn how to apply a higher concentration level for longer periods of time, because you have too. The biggest threat to any biker beyond their own control is the car driver who refuses to see you even after they've looked in your direction.
Interesting how you described the rythm of riding a bike. I guess i never thought about it but yeah there is a delay in steering compared to a car. In a car you turn the steering wheel and the car turns, on a bike you put pressure on the handlebars, the bike leans, and then the bike turns. Would love to see you do the training to get your motorbike license jimmer, no need to even buy a bike, just the training would be some top notch content.
most difficult racing game ive played. love it
Jimmy, if you ride an 125cc through that you'll fall in love... I've always been afraid of motorcycles, I said I would never get into one... Until one day I bought one 125cc, I said it was only to pick up bread 😂. Now I'm an addict on riding, bought a 600cc death machine and love every single moment I swing my leg on it. I've lost friends and people I know on motorcycles, unfortunately most of the time was they're own fault, lack of equipment, riding under the influence, speeding...
Love your content, made me fall in love with sim racing. Continue the great work.
Jimmer, only thing to keep in mind that I can think of.. when you lean and increase throttle, turning radius increases. The more you accelerate the more it tends to straighten up and kind of understeers.
you should definitely do your CBT then your A license :) did mine last year started on a 400cc thatt was great fun 3months later a street triple 765 now on to the 1000cc... nothing can beat the mix of adrenaline and FEAR :)
Just watched GPLaps play this yesterday. Very different videos but both very entertaining 🙂
As someone that’s ridden this on a 2010 s1000rr a few years ago. The fake nails the track to about 90% it’s a lot more bumpy on areas like Ramsey and Creg-Na Baa. Cornering on a bike is a fine art, you use tip in and turn on points. Also to answer your question about keeping throttle on etc, when you hit the brakes you tip into the corner still using 15-20% brake power (trail braking to load the front tyre More grip) then you crack the throttle to settle the rear tyre to make both tyres under load then start the exit lift the bike and put the throttle on to drive out. Only thing you don’t get on the game is the Thrwap of items going past in helmet view at High speeds.. nice lap though hummer
This and rally are the scariest and i have the most respect for them
This is what happens when a racing game actually represents realistic road widths. Only rally games are really comparable, and even then bikes obviously make it feel even faster still.
Its stuff like this that makes me despise the trend for mile wide roads in arcade games like forza horizon.
Is this size the normal size in Europe? In America most roads are pretty big generally speaking.
@@BrilliantK pretty much
only in sim racing do people have their enjoyment ruined by shit like how roads are portrayed, a fact I both love & hate for separate reasons.
@@BrilliantK same in Canada but every country in Europe has varying degrees of car centric infrastructure design, often leading to more narrow roads in favor of pedestrians & bicyclists being able to safely/realistically share said infrastructure.
@@BrilliantK in Britain we might have wider 'A roads' as we call them, with wider margins on either side. Obviously dual carriageways and motorways too (highways). Most 'B roads' however, make up the majority of roads and are pretty much exactly like this.
Its one thing to have a game set in America with wide roads, though even when games like forza visit the UK, you can still fit 4-6 unimogs side by side in the smallest 2 way roads.
Judging by _how_ you're crashing, I would say the simulation level of this is really solid. 12:45 I could practically feel the front end washing out in that hairpin lowside. Basically, you wanted to go out wide and turn on the flatter part of the road there, then cut in toward the end. pretty good for 2018
So cool ! Big respect for reel TT riders !
I don't even know if they broadcasted the isle of man this year. I think this race is the coolest thing ever.
never thought I'd hear road rash music in any youtube video ever i just got whiplash thank you
For anyone wanting to get a feel for this track I recommend watching David Jeffries Mad Sunday. On Mad Sunday the Ilse of Man track is open to everyone who wants a go, no speed limit, traffic is only allowed to go one way. The locals are driving cars sedately, visitors are going as fast as they can, cars and bikes, it really gives you a perspective on how fast the fast guys can go. What is insane is that David is on a stock Honda CBR, he makes everyone look slow.
MotoGP 23 is my first motorbike game ever played. A lot of fun.
riding a motorcycle is a lot easier in real life than in sim, its a conversation with the machine through the road, that 6th sense that sims don't have plays a much larger role on 2 wheels.
I loooove motorcycles, probably my favorite hobby. But this is absolutely INSANE. I used to think Rally drivers were the craziest people alive, then I found Isle of Man TT
In grasstrack and speedway, you use the throttle to turn the bike. But those sports involve sliding the back wheel through every turn.
For Superbikes, IIUC, you want the back wheel to maintain traction pretty much the whole time.
I've been riding motorcycles since I was 8 years old. I started on dirt bikes and now that I'm an adult I own a sport bike. The feeling of riding is unlike any other in the world. You have to do it to understand but its a love and a passion for 2 wheels that takes hold and never lets go.
I have suzuki gsxr 2006 1000cc, they say its one of the best bikes ever made cause its almost 1:1 power to weight ratio. Mine has upgraded front suspension (forks), brakes and ecu/air filter/exhaust mostly for track applications, but as I was watching the gameplay I saw that its harder than real life to take turns 😅
My dream is to get into nurburgring (i might go flat out there after a while cause I know the lines from games) and isle TT just for a walk around
Edit: By the way, those wobbles when you re exiting a corner and open throttle is the best code brown on a bike, and actually very frequent when you run low tyre pressure but relatively "safe"
Ridden bikes since I was 16 on the road with a 50cc, then went to 250c, then 600cc (FZR600 and CBR600), then 900cc (fireblade) and lastly a 1000ccc. Yes cornering a bike is something special and the more weight/mass the bike has the more you notice that on weight transfer. Certainly when flipping from knee to knee on a left to right or vice verse. So I'm swapping my weight off to the side just before I'm turning in. One thing you really have to watch is passengers. Some freak out on a big lean and lean away, and that can be disastrous. Hence it would always be my first rule to say to a new pillion rider. Keep your body level with mine.
The Birchall's also set a record in the sidecar this year with a 120 mph lap. Sidecar always feels like a different kind of insanity or whatever you want to call it.
and 130mph on a 600 :)
1:53 spingeboob
A bit of an update considering the race just happened 2 weeks ago. Peter Hickman made history in the second Superstock race of the 2023 Isle of Man TT with a new outright lap record of 136.358mph, blitzing his old time from 2018. Michael Dunlop was on pace for a 137 in the first Superbike race, but as he was 30 seconds ahead of hicky he made sure to bring it home in 1 piece and “coasted” to a 136.2 before hicky said fuck it and went ham sandwich.
I love the fact that your tachymeter is frozen during a wheelie, since it is based on the front wheel speed
Speed is not derived from front wheel rotation on any modern bike, heck not since the late 80's or early 90's for that matter.
you are thinking of the speedometer on earlier machines.
@@onearmedbandit_nzpretty sure the new gsx8s at the very least is. during the recent daily ride review on it the speedo read as decreasing speed while the bike was accelerating in a wheelie anyway
@@vegaspony indeed you're right, but even Zack seemed surprised. I've not seen the same on any supersports bike but hey it could be possible. Cheers!
@@onearmedbandit_nz Then why did the devs also implemented this feature on a 2021 BMW ? (see 3:08 and 14:50 for best examples).
Mistaken as much as I am ? Also, my 2001 CB500 was this way, so if it isn't derived from front wheel nowadays, it at least still existed in the 2000's.
Gotta check how it is on my bandit.
0:56 bro's large eyes are gold, takes real balls of steel to drive that fast on a bike
7:25 yup that's what I say to myself every DAMN time i boot up this tough as NAILS game. JAYSUS!
I like bikes only in games, as I crash a lot, but narrow fast vehicle is fun to ride around.