Saying "tragedy struck" when talking about super cars testing top speeds it usually means the driver lost control at over 200mph and died, so it was a relief when you explained just the car was harmed
@@kajin41 It was a customer car and the only car avaiable it could literally backrupt their company, same thing happened with Rimac when Richard Hammond crashed their electric hyper car.
Height, Years old , Penis size and Earnings are the usual exaggerations. I wanted to make an acronym, H.Y.P.E but speed or velocity exaggerations didn't fit. I dunno, got the big 4 brags, I like my acronym.
Just getting road tyres to achieve them speeds is difficult enough. You can’t just pick a set off the shelf, there specifically designed for the task in hand and require R&D first!
I love how ssc says “we are heartbroken to know we didn’t achieve it”. Brother, it’s a speedometer, 2πr x number of wheel rotations. Even the the most basic ass speedo won’t have an 80 mph error
Well givin the car itself is on the edge of control, we will never see this type of stuff on highways....unless someone figures out how to delete physics
Mind you, the onboard video, they purposely blurred the actual speedo of the car and only showed the GPS speed from the laptop. They knew what they were doing.
U$ always want to be the number 1 in everything. If they can't, they "CHEAT". The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite!” ― Tennessee Williams ----
My favorite part of the story is when Motortrend said the youtubers were wrong, “case closed” and never retracted the story or apologized to the youtubers after SSC admitted the error.
Yeah I remember that, they were aggressively dismissing all of the videos calmly explaining the mathematics. Both Shmee and Engineering Explained weren't trying to convince their audiences of anything, they were just showing equations that proved the claimed numbers were impossible. It was pretty bad behaviour, and you're absolutely right, they never apologised
Well, I'm working on a project right now on making my Honda Civic the first +300 m.p.h. I've already calculated on how many stickers, carbon fiber bits, what color to paint the valve cover, and finally upgrade my V-TEC fluid (I've yet to find it). Many are saying that I'm literally thinking with a 3 year old's mind, and that I'm going to be the laughing stock of 2021. But it's like many of the greats have said before, "Anything is possible. You just have to imagine it." Well, baby, I'm imagining A LOT. They said the Sega Dreamcast would never beat the PS2. And look what happened. Dreams can come true.
SSC's official response, months after getting busted "We were truly heartbroken as a company to learn we did not achieve... etc" They're still pretending they somehow misinterpreted their own data, as if they were as "surprised" as we were to learn they'd failed. As if they honestly couldn't tell the difference between 240 and 330 mph.
I agree that they're pretending, and it's not because of the difference between 240 & 330 MPH. When you get so fast, you seriously can't tell the difference.
@@Pats4lyfe try convincing the rest of the internet that. Part of the issue is they tried to double down. That tends to not end well when you've already been judged as wrong by the internet
The whole thing of SSC trying to live on a lie, because they "didn't check accuracy" reminds me of an incident years back on a forum. Long story short, guy claims he made massive power on smaller turbos than guys were making on much larger ones. You had the nut jumpers who were happy, then you had the skeptics. Finally someone noticed something super odd about the dyno graph, did some reverse image searches, and found that the dude had stole someone else's dyno graph. He was called on it and still tried to defend it. More and more of his lies unraveled, then he used some lame excuse about how he "accidentally" uploaded the wrong image, but of course was called on that too, considering he tried to defend it the entire time.
331 is no joke. A tire failure is fatal! I raced Super Bikes for 20 years and I know speed. 189mph on a Super Bike was the best feeling that I will never forget !
There are special considerations for the wheels and tires on the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport. But, few people think about the strain a propeller on a turboprop goes through flying in extreme temperatures, impacting small objects, pulling an aircraft, zinging along a high rpm.
@@exothermal.sprocket The Bugatti factory talks about this. For example how many Gs the air filler cap has to withstand on a car doing 300 mph. And what engineering magic they had to do to create wheels, tyres, even the grille on a Bugatti to make it pass crash testing, health & safety, and get number plates. But these American pretenders dont have to worry about any of that because they wont ever crash test or do any kind of government approval of any kind. No emissions, no safety features... Not even airbags. They will only ever be road legal on kit-car registration and number plates.
@@captain_context9991 Frankly I don't see it as a point of pride to comply with government regulations. Since when did governments keep people safe? They are the biggest human killers across all history. It's just additional cost and engineering to comply with regulations, whether it has any additional tangible benefit to the people who are going to actually throw down a couple chill million on one.
This Tuatara hypercar... when it was supposed to be a legend, became a meme all over the internet... That's why I love the automotive industry .. one wrong move... the internet hawk eyed detectives will find out the truth/ mistake,... and the internet commumtiny *EXPLODES*
Absolutely. Like I had a picture of the concept car as my computer background when I was in 4th grade… I’m a senior in college now, 11 years later, and they haven’t delivered any customer cars.
Personally, I would fully believe that they got overly-excited about their initial results off the measuring equipment they improperly installed. Shelby messed up, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they did so not out of malice, but of error. They learned a lesson in publicity and being careful in all claims. Still, there is no denying their engineering.
I find it strange that there is so little mention of Königsegg in pretty much all of these videos. There is one single car that can reach 330+MPH and that is the Jesko Absolut but they have been stopped from testing it at every facility they have requested. Gee, I wonder why...
I'm not so sure those speeds are on the cards for Jesko Absolute. It may be slick, but "only" 1600 hp migh never suffice for a car whith side by side driver and passenger. Typically, we're told the power it takes to go a given speed take the power of the speed squared. However, 100 hp cars can get close to around 200 kph, but to go 400 kph, you really need 800 hp, it seems. So rather the cube of speed. To go 10% faster then takes 33% more power.
@Just Dope yo I thought you linked to Fenske’s video and I clicked that monstrosity. Low blow, man. However, if this is the future of the Rick-roll, I’m ok with that.
Given SSC know the gear ratio, engine RPM, and tire circumference. They can easily calculate the theoretical speed at a given RPM and gear. And it is mind boggling that no one thought to do simple math to confirm.
@Bob Watters Still, on their second run they went almost 40mph slower than their first top speed run, and calculations show that irl speed might have been 60mph or more below their listed speed. That is not a minor error that can be excused in calculations. Basically there is no reason for them to be more than a few mph off at most when doing their theoretical gear x rpm speed calcuations. There are no real factors that can throw off the number by any significant amount. Tyre deformation is about the only one I can think of and even that only poses a marginal error. Beisdes that, it's pretty much straight highschool math nothing more. Fine if they make a mistake, but then doubling down on it when people question them, instead of double checking their own findings is NOT a proper way to go about claiming a top speed record. It shows they care more about receiving the record, less about earning it.
Before even watching more than 30 seconds of this video, I can tell you with absolute certainty it would be very easy to calculate exactly how fast the car was going, simply by measuring the distance between landmarks, and there are a lot of them in the form of little road signs, and the time it takes to pass each one. In fact such a calculation would be far more accurate than even the car's speedometer.
A phone would be accurate to the nearest kmph or mph, just a few decimal points off maybe, but in this day and age if a supercar manufacture can't even check with a phone they're either exceptionally dumb or a fraud.
Fish eye lens and poor camera angle would make it very difficult to say with certainty where exactly the car is in relation to its surroundings. On top of that, they could have fudged the playback speed of the footage which would make the time component of your calculations unreliable.
@@juanfichtl2011 Well, I wasn't talking about down to the 100th of a second. Speed records aren't really measured to that degree anyway. I mean, they certainly can be, but other than on closed course tracks like drag strips or race tracks, breaking land speed records isn't really calculated to such degrees. In fact, TRUE land speed records are calculated by averaging two runs. Just saying.
Yep, but since he is not if i was in his place not sure i would use shelby in the company name because everyone always thinks Carol. I can see pros and cons to it. It is his name and can use it, but no matter how good his car is alot of people who see shelby would automatically think of the original Shelby car company.
To be fair, the 280 run was limited by the length of the runway. So probably it is capable for more, even 300mph according to calculations. However there is a big silence since then. So it is suspicious why they don’t write history and be the first 300mph production car…
@@grievuspwn4g3 I mean, they have to do a production run for the record to be valid in the first place, so either we will have a chance to see it happen again - or their record will be taken from them if they don't produce the planned number of cars. Koenigsegg's top speed run was also done in an owner's car after all, they can't afford to have one sitting around for themselves to do these true top speed tests with.
@@juzoli Oh, that is fair. I haven't been following the whole situation since the "331mph" run, but Nolan mentioned in the video the truck carrying the car to another testing location was tipped over by strong wind, so that most likely damaged the hypercar and delayed more runs. No idea how old is that piece of news though, and if they are still repairing the car. I wish them all the best though. I am not against them, I just hate cheating.
@Waldel Martell Yes, I’m even more surprised, and disappointed that the Chiron doesn’t go for the real record… Unlike SSC, they have huge experience and resources. Maybe the platform is not capable for that after all without illegal modifications? By the way, the Nevada highway where they first tried is long enough.
Bugatti has an advantage when testing top speed. They have a private race track (Ehra-Lessien) dedicated to high speed runs that they (VW) obviously will not let other manufacturers set records on. The SSC's first record over the Veyron was set on a real highway in the USA. I still remember people thinking the Veyron was the fastest car, even with videos showing a Koenigsegg smacking Bugatti's around in roll racing. Bugatti setting records on their track is less impressive to me since it's an obvious advantage.
But dont forget the Bugatti is a luxery car and not a pure racing car like Königsegg or SSC , if they throw out all the luxery they will have 500 kg less and will be much faster ..
@@JuanMarkk the Bugatti is actually not, the modified one that went 300 is not a production car, it was heavily modified, interior completely stripped out and blew up after everything was all said and done. So a small individual car company just beat a multi billion dollar brand lol plus Bugattis just look like bars of soap so anyone who likes them typically has poor taste in cars.
Less than the cost of just one car. We are talking about million dollar range, cost of a test like this is nothing to them, considering that the fame and reputation are main drivers behind sales. People who buy these are looking for a certain status.
@@THEGRAYFOXX00 he honestly couldn't imo. After all that controversy and negative publicity surrounding their faked run, they kinda had to do it again to have any chance of redemption.
@@davidjohansson8739 ALL companies care about only one thing $, if they looked hard enough and fast enough they could have found another way that would have been cheaper and achieved the same result...maybe it was to have a e run, o maybe it was just to save some fave idk
@@THEGRAYFOXX00 of course they care about money, but with these low volume cars that are only made in ~100 units, imagine just 10 customers going "lol, i dont want anything to do with that car anymore, i dont trust them".. That would be 10% of their total revenue and around ~$16million.. And they can't really do anything else to fix their reputation since a faked speedrun kinda requires a real speedrun to fix.. It wouldn't be enougb with "but our simulations here tells us it's that fast"
I find it hard to believe they actually believed they went 331mph -- the tach readings alone should have pointed to the error in calculation. One of the toughest things to design a car for high speed is providing the gearing to do so. If the actual speed was, say, 280mph the difference in engine rpm would be 331/280 or 18% -- how do you miss that? Additionally, the landmarks the car passed gave it away and how did they not know that?
They call it a "production car", but then go on about how "The car" was damaged in an accident so they couldn't pursue further runs. *THE* car. They had to give up because there was *only one car*. How can you call something a "production car" when there is literally only one of it? That's not a production car, that's a custom build.
@@bgjh5149 dunno,you're gonna see it about SSC tuatara got mess the HELL UP and it was fake but the answer was 331 MPH/532 KM/H per top speed ever. But!!! Fun fact: Real Top Speed was 282.9 MP/H or 455.3 KM/H was better than previously top speed record in october 2020.
@@bgjh5149 From what I remember, MotorTrend ended up going radio silent on it after they realized that their audience is very small and not as dedicated as Shmee or Engineering Explained. I think there was that initial article written and then nothing more because they really didn't think these "small youtubers" would call their bluff lol.
@@bgjh5149 they wrote an article where they belittled Shmee and other RUclipsrs for their findings, even though they used fact-checkable information 🤦🏾♂️. The dumbasses who wrote the article clearly had a bias against RUclipsrs and didn't even bother to check the data and math himself.
Just one question. If this is a truly “Production car” then why is there only one car to do the testing with? If it is a production car then there should be plenty of other examples to test. Why haven’t they done the run with another example of the car? The answer is that this car is a one off car that will never actually be a production car.
@@koenigseggdubstep9837 plus they can’t just use a car which would be someone else’s. There aren’t just spare brand new Bugattis or Koenigseggs just sitting around. They are produced for production use not the company, they’ll usually have one to test with to save costs
That’s a dumb take. All of these cars are *limited* production cars, lumped in with the others because they are also built to be road-legal. Each of them sells for way over a million, and much of that money is spent just making it. Of course they wouldn’t want to use more than a couple cars for testing, because then you have to build more hideously expensive cars that you might not be able to sell. The Porsche 959 - also a low-volume production car - couldn’t be certified in the US simply because at the time you had to send several examples of your car to be destroyed in crash tests, and Porsche could not afford to give away like 3 more of its $600,000-to-build 959s.
I can't wrap my head around why the would only build one Tuatara, I mean they know how to do it, so why not just make 2 or 3 of them in case something happens to one? Pretty much everybody in the automobile world does that. Money can't be the issue at that point.
These American hypercar manufacturers like SSC and Hennessey are sort of trying to play in the same league as the likes of Bugatti and Koenigsegg but the truth is they make basically racing kit cars/prototypes that they manage to get sorta road legal in the USA (where the bar for that is really low) rather than true OEM production hypercars.
Ah yes. The memory of the time. Personally, i'm pretty excited when SSC announced they reach 331 MPH at October 2020 with Tuatara. Partly because they smash Chiron SS 300+ one-way run & partly because i didn't have big expectation of it (Probably because i didn't get much info about the Tuatara development). But when the controversy came to the surface, oh boy it was hot. This probably a lesson for anyone who tried to break a record. Just be honest about it & always double check because it's a serious stake. As for Devel Sixteen, well good luck
@@hotpinkfryingpan Personally, not quite. I know at the moment they haven't put it into production after decade of development, but the prototype & engine they showcase few years ago seems pretty legit. At least they are closer to reality than other dreamlist Supercar like Trion Nemesis or TranStar Dagger GT that God knows what their fate
I remember the day i woke up and saw on my phone "SSC Tuatara breaks the 300mph speed record" and me screaming "That's BULLSH*T!" and a few weeks later i was right since the start! It was all a lie! 🤣🤣🤣
Those who know engineering just know this sort of thing is BS when they see it. I'm not so sure the wheels on the Tuatara would even hold up to the cetripital loads from the originally claimed speed, and they did it on a normal highway, in contrast to Bugatti's 300mph run on a specially conditioned, one-way-only concrete strip which they wouldn't even permit a reverse run on for safety (which obviously meant they couldn't get Guinness to verify anything)
Hey Nolan! I was able to meet the driver of the Tuatara, Larry Kaplin volunteering at his CF charities event. Great guy and amazing car collection. The trailer flipping is true and they resolved it by getting super heavy duty transport trailers that lock the cars in safely like a rollercoaster seat. Very neat technology.
Really appreciated the plays on SSC in the subtitles 4:38 "A couple of year have paSSCd..." 10:29. "..were so obseSSCd with their work..." 10:40 "After some time paSSCd,.."
Americans: “Mom can we have Christian Von Koennigsegg?” Mom: “We have Christian Von Koenigsegg at home” The Christian Von Koenigsegg at home: Jarod Shelby
@@mark_xvii The Swedish don´t have balls? I know Swedish people are somewhat famous for being timid and maybe even shy but when it comes to the red line, we Swedish have large hairy balls. :) Swedes are also damn proud of CVK and his upcoming releases so look out for them. K Absolute would already have the speed record if they, like VW and Bugatti have theri own, had a recordbreaking bit of road to drive on...
They never denied your existence, in fact they propably mentioned their chick audience before, but I think if you checked donuts analytics it'd say that the audience is 97/3 male/female, so this is like a Polish national getting a stiffy over the mention of Poland in a RUclips video, taking that as evidence of the world encompassing power of his nation. It's embarrassing if you feel the need to be "acknowledged", everyone knows you exist, this fact is so mundane that noone mentions it.
Its amazing the bs they tried to pull. The car has a speedometer. I know its not "accurate", but when it reads 250mph and ur "sensors" say 331 you know something is off.
@@Dezbo you can only hope! Plus what about a straight axle swap? I know they’re doing overland, but would still be cool to see or at least the snorkel because even if you only go over landing your gonna want/need a snorkel because even over-landing there’s places you can’t get with out a snorkel, like if you need to cross a good body of water to get to where you wanna go camping.
you can just mae a snorel with some pvc pipe lol. it's an intake, there's no heat. chrisfix put a pvc fitting on the mushroom intake on his humvee so it would be higher than the hood.
How are the newer Toys holding up? I've been driving a '68 Corolla for almost 34 years now. I might need to replace it some day. I know, I know,...I'm barely out of the break-in period...but planning for the future.
My favorite part was when the CEO of Vbox (a company that makes accurate GPS data collectors for 0-60 times, top speed etc) did a breakdown of the data and proved they only went like 260 mph in the first run. Edit: his math actually concluded it was 225 mph
A lot of people on the internet said a lot of things about SSC. The only thing that they confirmed was that the Tuatara was incapable of breaking 300. They still built the fastest production car on the planet.
Now ask everyone on the internet to show their road legal 300mph car (or at least close to it). Yes they faked it, they still came straight afterwards tho and even showed how fast it actually could go and they're do-ers, not say-ers like everyone else armchair engineering on the internet.
Like online journalism in the video game, entertainment, politics, whether left or right leaning, or just in general, drama and sensationalism sells, always.
I think it was a marketing trick to get the car brand out there and it worked people all over RUclips and comments talk about it and might of even made some rich people to go buy it as it American brand so supporting American jobs and all that. Or it was a real mistake that ended well for them in the long run as more people that never know the car existed now do.
@@giggity4670 the car was probably never a 'production car'. They just remove more and more of the parts that makes it daily drive-able and tune it just for the speed run to achieve that second record If konigsegg (sorry for ruining that name) and bugatti did that, they would've already broken the record multiple times. It's supposed to be 'the fastest production car' speed run not 'the fastest test car' speedrun
@@kevinnorris6558 I think everyone would tbh but I like that they decided to still try to shoot for it but this time came prepared with professionals who know what they’re doing to get that speed record
I was there the day they first had the car at a show, in Philadelphia, I talked for a bit with the guy who bought the first production model or whatever it was. It was pretty cool I hope they go back and get 300 no questions asked
Don't worry, our boy Christian will end (SSC, Bugatti, and Hennessey) their WHOLE carreer with the Jesko Absolute, and they already know it ;) It's only a matter of time now.
@@WlerickBigotOfficial Meh Jesko brings nothing new, same old V8 and it's basically Agera with different crank and chassis. Gemera is something to wait for
The weird thing about this is that they actually didn't have to cheat to break the record as it turns out. May be the controversy was just a publicity stunt to get the funds for another run?
They did need to cheat when they had their closed desert road. How can the driver not know the difference between 240 mph and 330 mph? All verrrrrry sus... On the NASA runway, they didn't exactly rush to 330 mph either. In the faked clip, the acceleration up high was like being bump drafted by a TGV bullet train on its own record attempt.
wow, the part about the trailer flipping in utah really hit home for me. same thing happened last year with my 1962 cadillac ambulance, shipped it from utah and it barely made it to the state line. broke my heart
I read about the Tuatara as a concept car in a segment of EVO magazine in 2010. The proposed goal of a 270+mph top speed mentioned in the article seemed impossible to me then.
Of course I appreciate all the in-detail analyses done by guys like Misha and Shmee etc, but my favourite bit of analysis was that Agera RS vs Tuatara side-by-side footage comparison. It was hilarious to watch (and reassuring for a Koenigsegg fan).
man if ssc just showed the real speed they would've had the opportunity to be taken seriously on the world stage, now everyone calls it a shell car, what a shame.
Fun fact;: Tuatara is actually an ancient lizard from New Zealand and is believed to be the closest descendant from dinosaurs. It also has three ‘eyes’. Two of them are normal, and the third is a light sensing one on its head.
Highly doubt it. The tech behind a Konigsegg is on a different planet. Tuting a carbon fibre body as one of the main features in this day and age is kind of, well, 1990s.
Damn I remember them announcing this car 8-9 years ago when I was in middle school. Interesting to see it come to fruition all these years later (sort of)
When I was in middle school, we learned in science class that by the time we turned 25 years old, cars would drive themselves. And that kids as young as 10 years old would be able to "drive." I'm 36 years old now. Self-driving car tech exists, but it's rather primitive. And I don't see any 5 graders driving themselves to school.
It had been well and truly been proved false by the time Jason got his hands on it. Shmee initially, then Robert Mitchell leading the charge; his take leading to him being included in the people there to witness the rerun. ruclips.net/video/fSNRKBj_hUE/видео.html
The SSC horsepower figures always weird me out, they're squeezing even more abnormal numbers out of V8s than Koenigsegg. I wonder how long they last, there must be some kind of drawbacks
@@tbonetom7157 You can buy yourself a Guinness world record almost as easily as you can fake a top speed run. They are one hell of a shady institution... but they do have a decent verification process once they actually go to work on something.
You should watch the video from Robert Mitchell (and Misha Charoudin). They explain and show quite well. The first video: ruclips.net/video/eEB-X4MEsjs/видео.html The rerun (yes, he was on-site and was given full insights to the measurement equipment): ruclips.net/video/Env-uFvSydI/видео.html
and to claim they did it with a v8tt when it took the chiron 300 a w16qt to even get to 304, they expected people to except it because "the computer said so" and there isn't a reason to question it because they put "so much effort" into something that doesn't even sound like it can reach 290+ on spec sheets
@@Firefrei While the point is fine, using an engine type as comparison is a beginner mistake mate. There is minimal correlation between an engine type, and it's actual performance. A TTV8 can easily push these hp numbers, or more. And the W16QT that the Chiron uses is nowhere near its limit in the first place - it's not even in half power tune right now when producing 1500hp in base form. The engine can push more than double that, but Bugatti doesn't tune it to its peak for a multitude of reasons. Either way, don't use the type of engine to justify your point. You don't need it, and it only works against your argument.
@@Real_MisterSir very true, i would like to see bugatti push the engine around the 2000 hp mark and do a top speed trial with that but like you said there are reasons why they kept it at a nice 1600
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Saying "tragedy struck" when talking about super cars testing top speeds it usually means the driver lost control at over 200mph and died, so it was a relief when you explained just the car was harmed
Wouldn't be such a tragedy if they didn't stretch the meaning of the word 'production' car so much as they would have several others to test with.
i thought the same
*TOTALED*
@Ayy Lmao Not much of a production car then, eh?
@@kajin41 It was a customer car and the only car avaiable it could literally backrupt their company, same thing happened with Rimac when Richard Hammond crashed their electric hyper car.
I guess video games aren't the only category where people fake speed runs lol
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SSC just forgot to uninstall their modpack that increases engine power obviously
Cough cough , dream
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Height, Years old , Penis size and Earnings are the usual exaggerations. I wanted to make an acronym, H.Y.P.E but speed or velocity exaggerations didn't fit. I dunno, got the big 4 brags, I like my acronym.
Every time I hear a story like this I can't help but think - Just do the run again and prove it. It should be easy right?
It’s not easy to find a stretch long enough for a run like this and have access to it.
It's also not easy to have all the media and engineers fly out at the same time to film it.
Just getting road tyres to achieve them speeds is difficult enough. You can’t just pick a set off the shelf, there specifically designed for the task in hand and require R&D first!
@@yummyhershey5902 it's also not easy to get the wind speed and direction right everytime, a badly timed gust could toss a low aero car at 260mph
Same reason they're avoiding the election audit.
I love how ssc says “we are heartbroken to know we didn’t achieve it”. Brother, it’s a speedometer, 2πr x number of wheel rotations. Even the the most basic ass speedo won’t have an 80 mph error
I’m used to seeing cars go 100 miles per hour by me on the 405 but, imagine 300 miles per hour 👀
@@feliciaalexis______5339 damn bro no way
hold up why are you here? I watch both you and donut and i never thought you'd cross paths
Well givin the car itself is on the edge of control, we will never see this type of stuff on highways....unless someone figures out how to delete physics
@@jazzyjonny1449 so many strange crossovers recently. everyone is at home on the internet i love it
First time i was on the autobahn with my shitbox, a porsche flew by me at probably 300+ kmh i cant even comprehend 300mph
Oh the memories!
Yooo its misha I loved the Tom Scott video
These bone heads never mentioned the two guys who did the real work.
The OGs on this debacle!
Did you pay for bots to get this comment lol? Or are you just being spammed?
@@cybertree Targeted...They aim for high profile accounts comments, with many subs I mean, they tend to get more replies. Just report it ;)
The guy who made the subtitles had fun with all the "SSC" puns.
Glad someone else noticed that hehe
Wait. I went through the whole video again and I saw 3 or 4.
Riceflakes, is this what u were talking about? 13:30 After some time paSSCd
@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis yep lol
@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis i wil delete u
Mind you, the onboard video, they purposely blurred the actual speedo of the car and only showed the GPS speed from the laptop. They knew what they were doing.
U$ always want to be the number 1 in everything. If they can't, they "CHEAT".
The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite!”
― Tennessee Williams ----
the fact that shelby's neck fit for every image 🤣
@ME shut up
@iche ches🧚♀️ brhu wth
@ME wth bro?
They’re bots, they do this everywhere.
@@FNTM2k3 wtf does this one mean tho
My favorite part of the story is when Motortrend said the youtubers were wrong, “case closed” and never retracted the story or apologized to the youtubers after SSC admitted the error.
Yeah I remember that, they were aggressively dismissing all of the videos calmly explaining the mathematics. Both Shmee and Engineering Explained weren't trying to convince their audiences of anything, they were just showing equations that proved the claimed numbers were impossible.
It was pretty bad behaviour, and you're absolutely right, they never apologised
And boomers still wondering why print media is dying smh
Well, I'm working on a project right now on making my Honda Civic the first +300 m.p.h. I've already calculated on how many stickers, carbon fiber bits, what color to paint the valve cover, and finally upgrade my V-TEC fluid (I've yet to find it). Many are saying that I'm literally thinking with a 3 year old's mind, and that I'm going to be the laughing stock of 2021. But it's like many of the greats have said before, "Anything is possible. You just have to imagine it." Well, baby, I'm imagining A LOT. They said the Sega Dreamcast would never beat the PS2. And look what happened. Dreams can come true.
You forgot to mention that the red H badge adds another 94.75HP
Don't forget to paint the car red, it's the most important step
Laughs in kawasaki H2R. What a loser.
Do it!!!
MAKE THAT V-TEC KICK IN YOOOO
SSC's official response, months after getting busted "We were truly heartbroken as a company to learn we did not achieve... etc"
They're still pretending they somehow misinterpreted their own data, as if they were as "surprised" as we were to learn they'd failed. As if they honestly couldn't tell the difference between 240 and 330 mph.
I agree that they're pretending, and it's not because of the difference between 240 & 330 MPH. When you get so fast, you seriously can't tell the difference.
They hit 270. They're upgraded model hit 290. It's really hard to tell the difference at that speed.
@@flyingturret208thecannon5 when?
@@Black-mx3hc When what?
Yea when I'm cruising 250+ I have to be careful not to go 330😂
Yea it looks like SSC's founder came from a time where he had clearly not learned the lesson, "the internet does not forget."
Still broke the record though, ppl make mistakes and should be forgiven
@@Pats4lyfe try convincing the rest of the internet that. Part of the issue is they tried to double down. That tends to not end well when you've already been judged as wrong by the internet
@@Pats4lyfe did they really prove it was legit?
@@Pats4lyfe Still lost my respect for SSC tho
They redeemed themselves and made up for their fuck ups
The whole thing of SSC trying to live on a lie, because they "didn't check accuracy" reminds me of an incident years back on a forum. Long story short, guy claims he made massive power on smaller turbos than guys were making on much larger ones. You had the nut jumpers who were happy, then you had the skeptics. Finally someone noticed something super odd about the dyno graph, did some reverse image searches, and found that the dude had stole someone else's dyno graph. He was called on it and still tried to defend it. More and more of his lies unraveled, then he used some lame excuse about how he "accidentally" uploaded the wrong image, but of course was called on that too, considering he tried to defend it the entire time.
Coverup is quite often worse than the crime...
Just like Fauci and his "science"
@@4dbullshitpatroll6 😁
you talkin about that greek EVO?
Atleast they had a fast car and they did a legit speed trial
4:52 nailed it
Well... He did forget the "ce" at the end
No
@Repent!. no
@@dislexyc pretty close still
not perfectly. i am french and he said "de élégan" instead of "d'élégance". Absolutely no one who is french native would say it like that.
331 is no joke. A tire failure is fatal! I raced Super Bikes for 20 years and I know speed. 189mph on a Super Bike was the best feeling that I will never forget !
Good thing the car never actually did 331 mph then. Or anything close to it.
There are special considerations for the wheels and tires on the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport.
But, few people think about the strain a propeller on a turboprop goes through flying in extreme temperatures, impacting small objects, pulling an aircraft, zinging along a high rpm.
@@exothermal.sprocket
The Bugatti factory talks about this. For example how many Gs the air filler cap has to withstand on a car doing 300 mph. And what engineering magic they had to do to create wheels, tyres, even the grille on a Bugatti to make it pass crash testing, health & safety, and get number plates.
But these American pretenders dont have to worry about any of that because they wont ever crash test or do any kind of government approval of any kind. No emissions, no safety features... Not even airbags.
They will only ever be road legal on kit-car registration and number plates.
@@captain_context9991 Frankly I don't see it as a point of pride to comply with government regulations. Since when did governments keep people safe? They are the biggest human killers across all history.
It's just additional cost and engineering to comply with regulations, whether it has any additional tangible benefit to the people who are going to actually throw down a couple chill million on one.
This Tuatara hypercar... when it was supposed to be a legend, became a meme all over the internet...
That's why I love the automotive industry .. one wrong move... the internet hawk eyed detectives will find out the truth/ mistake,... and the internet commumtiny *EXPLODES*
@ME sap as oppo b Po pop 😡😠
Shouldn’t have lied
Absolutely. Like I had a picture of the concept car as my computer background when I was in 4th grade… I’m a senior in college now, 11 years later, and they haven’t delivered any customer cars.
U forgot devil sixteen prototype 🤣🤣
still an amazing car tho, cant wait to see if it’ll hit (actually) 300
Shmee was the first person to make this public.
The amount of work he did on SSC was amazing .
Personally, I would fully believe that they got overly-excited about their initial results off the measuring equipment they improperly installed. Shelby messed up, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they did so not out of malice, but of error. They learned a lesson in publicity and being careful in all claims. Still, there is no denying their engineering.
completely agree with you
They still have the fastest car in the world so....
I'll readily admit I'm a naive idiot, personally. You?
Norm Macdonald you seem to really have a bone to grind with SSC. Why're you getting so worked up lol? You play fortnite so I guess that adds up.
@@sinuslebastian6366 If you're going to argue with him make a counter argument. Not "lol so mad". He doesn't actually seem to be that mad.
I find it strange that there is so little mention of Königsegg in pretty much all of these videos. There is one single car that can reach 330+MPH and that is the Jesko Absolut but they have been stopped from testing it at every facility they have requested. Gee, I wonder why...
To bad there isnt any good enough roads in Sweden for testing top speed.
@@ronniecato248 Really? I live north of the arctic circle, ALL car makers test their cars here.
@@michaelmay5453 Yes but not top speed runs
I'm not so sure those speeds are on the cards for Jesko Absolute. It may be slick, but "only" 1600 hp migh never suffice for a car whith side by side driver and passenger.
Typically, we're told the power it takes to go a given speed take the power of the speed squared. However, 100 hp cars can get close to around 200 kph, but to go 400 kph, you really need 800 hp, it seems. So rather the cube of speed. To go 10% faster then takes 33% more power.
@@Cloxxki It's not that simple.
I didn’t know Fenske got involved. Jason is the ultimate Ace. I’d love to have that guy* on my side for a debate.
*with the whiteboard
Tesla and elon musk is awful doug demuro is awful
Serously why do people put chevy bolt against the Tesla Model 3 because bolt is massively cheaper and onlya half a second slower
@Just Dope yo I thought you linked to Fenske’s video and I clicked that monstrosity. Low blow, man. However, if this is the future of the Rick-roll, I’m ok with that.
For the equally lazy:
Engineering Explained -- Was The SSC Tuatara 331 MPH World Record Run Real?
ruclips.net/video/4jqCdBKl0ME/видео.html
@@zbatchDOC its no bad at all tho
Given SSC know the gear ratio, engine RPM, and tire circumference. They can easily calculate the theoretical speed at a given RPM and gear. And it is mind boggling that no one thought to do simple math to confirm.
@Bob Watters ok, I see. Thanks.
@@shunjieguan4051 I think the theoretical top speed was something like 340mph, wheels would go out before that would ever be reached though.
everything works better in theory but won’t come close in practical
@@thehutch4823 that's not what he means. He didn't say "theoretical max top speed", but rather the theoretical speed at a certain gear x rpm.
@Bob Watters Still, on their second run they went almost 40mph slower than their first top speed run, and calculations show that irl speed might have been 60mph or more below their listed speed. That is not a minor error that can be excused in calculations. Basically there is no reason for them to be more than a few mph off at most when doing their theoretical gear x rpm speed calcuations. There are no real factors that can throw off the number by any significant amount. Tyre deformation is about the only one I can think of and even that only poses a marginal error. Beisdes that, it's pretty much straight highschool math nothing more. Fine if they make a mistake, but then doubling down on it when people question them, instead of double checking their own findings is NOT a proper way to go about claiming a top speed record. It shows they care more about receiving the record, less about earning it.
SSC : Our car hit 331 mph
Shmee150 : I'm about to end this man's whole career
Lol
It didn't end it though🤷🏿🤷🏿
@Peter Evans No, it's entirely possible if the winds get strong enough. If winds get to 60 mph they can flip a moving semi trailer.
SSC Thrust: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@@davidgendron519 It's a joke you wet blanket
Before even watching more than 30 seconds of this video, I can tell you with absolute certainty it would be very easy to calculate exactly how fast the car was going, simply by measuring the distance between landmarks, and there are a lot of them in the form of little road signs, and the time it takes to pass each one. In fact such a calculation would be far more accurate than even the car's speedometer.
A phone would be accurate to the nearest kmph or mph, just a few decimal points off maybe, but in this day and age if a supercar manufacture can't even check with a phone they're either exceptionally dumb or a fraud.
Unless, of course, they altered the frame rate of the video.
@@juanfichtl2011 They need to invest in a 3DFX Voodoo card with anti-aliasing to take care of that.
Fish eye lens and poor camera angle would make it very difficult to say with certainty where exactly the car is in relation to its surroundings.
On top of that, they could have fudged the playback speed of the footage which would make the time component of your calculations unreliable.
@@juanfichtl2011 Well, I wasn't talking about down to the 100th of a second. Speed records aren't really measured to that degree anyway. I mean, they certainly can be, but other than on closed course tracks like drag strips or race tracks, breaking land speed records isn't really calculated to such degrees. In fact, TRUE land speed records are calculated by averaging two runs. Just saying.
I was expecting another car as well as this one. The title made it seem like there was a ton of different cars making erroneous speed claims.
Think they’re throwing shots at Tesla’s plaid model s 0-60 time including roll out
@@trapsarentgay4195 They are not.
Rollout is used by everyone is USA.
Paid hater.
The fact that Jarod is in no way related to Carol is one of the weirdest coincidences in car culture history.
Pfft
Yep, but since he is not if i was in his place not sure i would use shelby in the company name because everyone always thinks Carol. I can see pros and cons to it. It is his name and can use it, but no matter how good his car is alot of people who see shelby would automatically think of the original Shelby car company.
@@RF-wv7ip tbf he did change it from 'Shelby SuperCars' to SSC so it's only the initials, a lot of people don't know what they stand for
Oof, 280 is quite far from the claimed 331. Just casually added 50mph to their real speed, lol.
To be fair, the 280 run was limited by the length of the runway. So probably it is capable for more, even 300mph according to calculations.
However there is a big silence since then. So it is suspicious why they don’t write history and be the first 300mph production car…
@@grievuspwn4g3 I mean, they have to do a production run for the record to be valid in the first place, so either we will have a chance to see it happen again - or their record will be taken from them if they don't produce the planned number of cars.
Koenigsegg's top speed run was also done in an owner's car after all, they can't afford to have one sitting around for themselves to do these true top speed tests with.
@@juzoli Oh, that is fair. I haven't been following the whole situation since the "331mph" run, but Nolan mentioned in the video the truck carrying the car to another testing location was tipped over by strong wind, so that most likely damaged the hypercar and delayed more runs. No idea how old is that piece of news though, and if they are still repairing the car.
I wish them all the best though. I am not against them, I just hate cheating.
Basically a rounding error. For very lenient definitions of rounding...
@Waldel Martell Yes, I’m even more surprised, and disappointed that the Chiron doesn’t go for the real record…
Unlike SSC, they have huge experience and resources. Maybe the platform is not capable for that after all without illegal modifications?
By the way, the Nevada highway where they first tried is long enough.
Bugatti has an advantage when testing top speed. They have a private race track (Ehra-Lessien) dedicated to high speed runs that they (VW) obviously will not let other manufacturers set records on. The SSC's first record over the Veyron was set on a real highway in the USA. I still remember people thinking the Veyron was the fastest car, even with videos showing a Koenigsegg smacking Bugatti's around in roll racing. Bugatti setting records on their track is less impressive to me since it's an obvious advantage.
Bugatti is still faster tho lol
But dont forget the Bugatti is a luxery car and not a pure racing car like Königsegg or SSC , if they throw out all the luxery they will have 500 kg less and will be much faster ..
@@JuanMarkk based on what? Losing races?
@@JuanMarkk the Bugatti is actually not, the modified one that went 300 is not a production car, it was heavily modified, interior completely stripped out and blew up after everything was all said and done. So a small individual car company just beat a multi billion dollar brand lol plus Bugattis just look like bars of soap so anyone who likes them typically has poor taste in cars.
@ThePininfarinaGentleman© buddy you just made yourself look like a fool, look it up to for proof if you don’t believe me but the PRODUCTION models can’t exceed 300+ Bugatti literally says it on their website, “technically it could” but after further modification of the car and put on their test track with special tires. do not speak unless you know all the facts
mad respect to mr clean who owned up to his bias and came out to do it again...god knows how much those setups cost
Less than the cost of just one car. We are talking about million dollar range, cost of a test like this is nothing to them, considering that the fame and reputation are main drivers behind sales. People who buy these are looking for a certain status.
@@squidcaps4308 still its another mil, he could have handled it another way
@@THEGRAYFOXX00 he honestly couldn't imo. After all that controversy and negative publicity surrounding their faked run, they kinda had to do it again to have any chance of redemption.
@@davidjohansson8739 ALL companies care about only one thing $, if they looked hard enough and fast enough they could have found another way that would have been cheaper and achieved the same result...maybe it was to have a e run, o maybe it was just to save some fave idk
@@THEGRAYFOXX00 of course they care about money, but with these low volume cars that are only made in ~100 units, imagine just 10 customers going "lol, i dont want anything to do with that car anymore, i dont trust them".. That would be 10% of their total revenue and around ~$16million.. And they can't really do anything else to fix their reputation since a faked speedrun kinda requires a real speedrun to fix.. It wouldn't be enougb with "but our simulations here tells us it's that fast"
4:37 "A couple years have paSSCd",
10:28 "obseSSCd",
gotta love whoever made the subtitles lol
Beat me by 3 minutes ;)
This is one reason im a Koenigsegg fan, they keep it real - Even inhouse real.
Koenigsegg is my dream car
Koenigsegg makes great cars, but I hope they have it in GT7
koenigsegg koenigsegg koenigsegg.... no matter who has the record, the seggheads follow their cult leader
@@THESLlCK am a Koenigsegg fan and I have to admit that this is a fact, Bugatti will always be on top somehow
blah blah blah you, me, and the other guy never gonna afford
I find it hard to believe they actually believed they went 331mph -- the tach readings alone should have pointed to the error in calculation. One of the toughest things to design a car for high speed is providing the gearing to do so. If the actual speed was, say, 280mph the difference in engine rpm would be 331/280 or 18% -- how do you miss that?
Additionally, the landmarks the car passed gave it away and how did they not know that?
They knew.
"You think I am smart because I wear glasses? No!! I just can't see" Nolan
@Ingrid Christina why man/women.
That reload sound when Nolan push up his glasses is a ‘Syke’ to see.
Big Brain move
Damn, nailed it
They call it a "production car", but then go on about how "The car" was damaged in an accident so they couldn't pursue further runs.
*THE* car. They had to give up because there was *only one car*.
How can you call something a "production car" when there is literally only one of it? That's not a production car, that's a custom build.
Yeah, and you can't order another one of it....so......
Honestly the fastest production car is now the Bugatti Chiron Super sport cuz it’s in production now
@@ahmed35gaming I believe the Koenigsegg Agera RS still holds that record. Correct me if I am wrong.
@@minecraftveteran7410 the ssc holds the record . its not as fast as they said it was but its still the fastest.
@@WUTaNIGGAiAM not a production car
“I just can’t see well”😂😂🤣 I legally can’t drive without them
Shmee came with straight facts whenever Motortrend tried coming after him
Oh yeah I remember hearing about that. Did they leave a comment on Shmee's video or have they uploaded a seperate video that tried to defend the run?
@@bgjh5149 dunno,you're gonna see it about SSC tuatara got mess the HELL UP and it was fake but the answer was 331 MPH/532 KM/H per top speed ever. But!!!
Fun fact: Real Top Speed was 282.9 MP/H or 455.3 KM/H was better than previously top speed record in october 2020.
@@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498 your comment adds literally nothing, everything you said was in the video and that didn't answer the guys question lol
@@bgjh5149 From what I remember, MotorTrend ended up going radio silent on it after they realized that their audience is very small and not as dedicated as Shmee or Engineering Explained. I think there was that initial article written and then nothing more because they really didn't think these "small youtubers" would call their bluff lol.
@@bgjh5149 they wrote an article where they belittled Shmee and other RUclipsrs for their findings, even though they used fact-checkable information 🤦🏾♂️. The dumbasses who wrote the article clearly had a bias against RUclipsrs and didn't even bother to check the data and math himself.
Just one question. If this is a truly “Production car” then why is there only one car to do the testing with? If it is a production car then there should be plenty of other examples to test. Why haven’t they done the run with another example of the car? The answer is that this car is a one off car that will never actually be a production car.
That was the first production car, dude driving it when the record was set was actually the owner
@@koenigseggdubstep9837 first and last example apparently since they have basically abandoned trying to do the run again.
@@koenigseggdubstep9837 plus they can’t just use a car which would be someone else’s. There aren’t just spare brand new Bugattis or Koenigseggs just sitting around. They are produced for production use not the company, they’ll usually have one to test with to save costs
That’s a dumb take. All of these cars are *limited* production cars, lumped in with the others because they are also built to be road-legal. Each of them sells for way over a million, and much of that money is spent just making it. Of course they wouldn’t want to use more than a couple cars for testing, because then you have to build more hideously expensive cars that you might not be able to sell.
The Porsche 959 - also a low-volume production car - couldn’t be certified in the US simply because at the time you had to send several examples of your car to be destroyed in crash tests, and Porsche could not afford to give away like 3 more of its $600,000-to-build 959s.
ruclips.net/video/bxBdzOr91Gk/видео.html
I love the reload sound everytime Nolan moves his glasses up 🤣🤣
They missed one at 11:06 and it bothers me a lot more than it should lol
one of my favorite running bits that they have! So good
I want a pair of glasses that have a really small button on the middle so when you push em up like nolan, they play the reload sound
I can't wrap my head around why the would only build one Tuatara, I mean they know how to do it, so why not just make 2 or 3 of them in case something happens to one? Pretty much everybody in the automobile world does that. Money can't be the issue at that point.
clearly my bald wanna be keoniggsegg mans has a huge issue with money
These American hypercar manufacturers like SSC and Hennessey are sort of trying to play in the same league as the likes of Bugatti and Koenigsegg but the truth is they make basically racing kit cars/prototypes that they manage to get sorta road legal in the USA (where the bar for that is really low) rather than true OEM production hypercars.
Yoooooooooooooo NOLAN!!!!!!! MISSED YOU MAN!!!
Gay
That reload sound when you push your glasses up gets me every time
I appreciate that there are solid subtitles on these videos now! And the little puns, too.
Ah yes. The memory of the time.
Personally, i'm pretty excited when SSC announced they reach 331 MPH at October 2020 with Tuatara. Partly because they smash Chiron SS 300+ one-way run & partly because i didn't have big expectation of it (Probably because i didn't get much info about the Tuatara development). But when the controversy came to the surface, oh boy it was hot.
This probably a lesson for anyone who tried to break a record. Just be honest about it & always double check because it's a serious stake. As for Devel Sixteen, well good luck
Devel Sixteen isn't real
@@hotpinkfryingpan Personally, not quite. I know at the moment they haven't put it into production after decade of development, but the prototype & engine they showcase few years ago seems pretty legit. At least they are closer to reality than other dreamlist Supercar like Trion Nemesis or TranStar Dagger GT that God knows what their fate
@@ivanbima5877 Nothing about the Devil 16 is legit... Literally nothing. Theyve yet to show it go over 25mph.
@@TheGamingNorwegian Are you sure? Not even the engine that been dyno & reach 4500 HP?
@@TheGamingNorwegian well atleast they got the engine right
I remember the day i woke up and saw on my phone "SSC Tuatara breaks the 300mph speed record" and me screaming "That's BULLSH*T!" and a few weeks later i was right since the start! It was all a lie! 🤣🤣🤣
Those who know engineering just know this sort of thing is BS when they see it. I'm not so sure the wheels on the Tuatara would even hold up to the cetripital loads from the originally claimed speed, and they did it on a normal highway, in contrast to Bugatti's 300mph run on a specially conditioned, one-way-only concrete strip which they wouldn't even permit a reverse run on for safety (which obviously meant they couldn't get Guinness to verify anything)
Hey Nolan! I was able to meet the driver of the Tuatara, Larry Kaplin volunteering at his CF charities event. Great guy and amazing car collection. The trailer flipping is true and they resolved it by getting super heavy duty transport trailers that lock the cars in safely like a rollercoaster seat. Very neat technology.
I don't know who decided to play a gun cocking sound effect everytime Nolan pushes his glasses up, but they deserve an Emmy.
Really appreciated the plays on SSC in the subtitles
4:38 "A couple of year have paSSCd..."
10:29. "..were so obseSSCd with their work..."
10:40 "After some time paSSCd,.."
It looks like whoever subtitled it initially typed the brand as "SSE" and then used a Find and Replace for "sse" to 'SSC"...
@@twoeasy3 I totally back your theory
Dang
Americans: “Mom can we have Christian Von Koennigsegg?”
Mom: “We have Christian Von Koenigsegg at home”
The Christian Von Koenigsegg at home:
Jarod Shelby
Uhh, faster? Seems like a self own, it'd be awesome to own an ssc
@@noobsonyt2762 taut Ara is a girls name tho
@@noobsonyt2762 The Swedish don’t have balls so you won’t have to worry about that happening with a Koenigsegg
@@mark_xvii The Swedish don´t have balls? I know Swedish people are somewhat famous for being timid and maybe even shy but when it comes to the red line, we Swedish have large hairy balls. :) Swedes are also damn proud of CVK and his upcoming releases so look out for them. K Absolute would already have the speed record if they, like VW and Bugatti have theri own, had a recordbreaking bit of road to drive on...
Nolan out here finally acknowledging that Donut has a female audience as well! We exist!!
@@Dan_R "Acknowledging"
No you dont
They never denied your existence, in fact they propably mentioned their chick audience before, but I think if you checked donuts analytics it'd say that the audience is 97/3 male/female, so this is like a Polish national getting a stiffy over the mention of Poland in a RUclips video, taking that as evidence of the world encompassing power of his nation. It's embarrassing if you feel the need to be "acknowledged", everyone knows you exist, this fact is so mundane that noone mentions it.
People triggered as fuck over this inoffensive comment lmao
@@jackwii1472 its not that serious dude
Its amazing the bs they tried to pull. The car has a speedometer. I know its not "accurate", but when it reads 250mph and ur "sensors" say 331 you know something is off.
my car pulls 128 on the sat nav 140 on the speedo i know its 10% over reads. i use that 10% over read to do the speed limit im in.
@@raypitts4880 ur car is way off then. Did you change tire size?
Also this is a $1m car. Its not that hard to have an accurate speedometer.
Anyone else looking forward to the “is buying a snorkel worth it?” Kinda wanna see low team try to make a snorkel and see how well it does.
Wait ins't the last episode of season 2 hi/lo coming out? I doubt they are going to put snorkles on their tacomas
@@Dezbo you can only hope! Plus what about a straight axle swap? I know they’re doing overland, but would still be cool to see or at least the snorkel because even if you only go over landing your gonna want/need a snorkel because even over-landing there’s places you can’t get with out a snorkel, like if you need to cross a good body of water to get to where you wanna go camping.
They won't do a SAS haha. They're doing overland stuff, not rock crawler stuff.
you can just mae a snorel with some pvc pipe lol. it's an intake, there's no heat. chrisfix put a pvc fitting on the mushroom intake on his humvee so it would be higher than the hood.
How are the newer Toys holding up? I've been driving a '68 Corolla for almost 34 years now. I might need to replace it some day.
I know, I know,...I'm barely out of the break-in period...but planning for the future.
the toto wolff impression when reading the deutron quote , was perfection lol
I thought it was Schwarzenegger-impression
As soon as he changed accent toto came to my mind😂😂
@@fredbull313 it is isnt it?
@@carrot5610 Yes, it must be
cause he about to fire sum FACTS XD
You missed Apex Nürburg Team, Misha Charoudin and Robert Mitchell who where the first to point it out. They really got the ball rolling
Reminds me of when the F1 car, Ferrari F2004 were quickier than the team expected, that, unlike SSC, they had to double check everything to confirm it
You nailed that Arnold impression, that was great.
The car would sell well if it was sold. It looks great and didn’t need to lie about top speed
It wouldn’t sell well Dumbass it costs well over 1.6 MILLION dollars. U think that a 1.6 MILLION dollar vehicle will sell well??
@@squintus8140 Koenigseggs sell well. They cost 2mill+. What are you smoking my guy?
@@anonymousname8833 let’s see American cars are much cheaper so? Practicality is the main reason nobody would get it
@@squintus8140 what is a non car guy doing here
@@sabyasachibhaumik8920 😅
Side note, I don't know how it happened but I'm REALLY happy to see VPN adverts finally be honest about what a VPN is and is not good for.
Nolan has come so far in these videos! Appreciate the content!
I just got an add of him in a Nissan truck advertising FOR nissan! Incredible how big companies are getting more aware of the youtube scene
Keep it up guys, hope this channel never dies!
all these damn bots istg
@@artemis_the_bot ikr
@@artemis_the_bot it's insane. I hope RUclips is working on this.
@@Tony_Man RUclips cares more about copyright and "bad words" over spam bots.
I actually cracked up at the Austrian accent attempt. It reminded me of people mimicking Toto Wolff, so you were closer than it seemed 😂
Now I can't unhear toto
*bangs the table* lol
SSC's and the Tuatara's legacy will always be tainted by this controversy.
The same way we'll always be asking for an Up to Speed on James's dad.
Ayooo
Your commercials are abundant and the humor is nil. Which one does open mics.
I say the Tutara isn’t a production car until they actually start producing them
They did produce one so far and that is the car they are testing with
@@barnhardtbrecken3360 1 isn’t exactly a production car, and it’s not like anyone’s bought one yet
Well yeah the tutara doesn’t exist
Tutara is a yoke soooo..........
@@ahmed35gaming a koenigsegg agera rs is faster
My favorite part was when the CEO of Vbox (a company that makes accurate GPS data collectors for 0-60 times, top speed etc) did a breakdown of the data and proved they only went like 260 mph in the first run.
Edit: his math actually concluded it was 225 mph
Here’s a link to the video: ruclips.net/video/j_uTuNcqZVQ/видео.html
As a German I demand that from now on, every quote from a german speaking man is spoken like good ol’ Arnold would pronounce it! Lmao 😂😂😂
But wait, Arnold is Austrian!
Austrian not German
@@GreenJeepMacLSswappedJeeplife Austrian's speak German.
@@GreenJeepMacLSswappedJeeplife Austrians are more German than Germans
@@j-cole88 You realise Austria and Germany share centuries of history and culture...?
For the guy that did all that math at the beginning of the video, I give u all my respect.
Yeah, yeah this is great and all - I'm just so happy Nolan has his reload sound effect back.
You forgot the most important aspect of this project, putting 1750HP on only the rear wheelz :)
That just seems like a recipe to Hammond yourself as the driver.
For Top speed, rear wheel drive is BETTER than all wheel drive. This isn't 0 to 60 mph.
By doing a second attempt, and not getting close to their first "record", SSC just confirmed what everyone on the internet said about them.
Absolutely. They thought they could get away with their lie.
A lot of people on the internet said a lot of things about SSC. The only thing that they confirmed was that the Tuatara was incapable of breaking 300. They still built the fastest production car on the planet.
@@GC2Major_Tom sure... wait for the Jesko Absolut and the road legal Bugatti Chiron LT.
History will forget SSC so fast...
Now ask everyone on the internet to show their road legal 300mph car (or at least close to it). Yes they faked it, they still came straight afterwards tho and even showed how fast it actually could go and they're do-ers, not say-ers like everyone else armchair engineering on the internet.
@@sylvaind.6786 Okay, then SSC won't have the record. You know that world records don't last forever, right?
this era of automotive journalism was wild
Like online journalism in the video game, entertainment, politics, whether left or right leaning, or just in general, drama and sensationalism sells, always.
Even with the controversy I still have major respect for them pulling out all the stops the second time to get a legit time. What a wicked fast car
I think it was a marketing trick to get the car brand out there and it worked people all over RUclips and comments talk about it and might of even made some rich people to go buy it as it American brand so supporting American jobs and all that. Or it was a real mistake that ended well for them in the long run as more people that never know the car existed now do.
@@giggity4670 the car was probably never a 'production car'. They just remove more and more of the parts that makes it daily drive-able and tune it just for the speed run to achieve that second record
If konigsegg (sorry for ruining that name) and bugatti did that, they would've already broken the record multiple times. It's supposed to be 'the fastest production car' speed run not 'the fastest test car' speedrun
I'd have more respect for them if they didn't try to lie so hard about it
@@kevinnorris6558 I think everyone would tbh but I like that they decided to still try to shoot for it but this time came prepared with professionals who know what they’re doing to get that speed record
I was there the day they first had the car at a show, in Philadelphia, I talked for a bit with the guy who bought the first production model or whatever it was. It was pretty cool I hope they go back and get 300 no questions asked
sucker born everyday lol
last time I'm here SSC fans still calling Koenigsegg fanboys a jerk for putting out a fact about their beloved car
Don't worry, our boy Christian will end (SSC, Bugatti, and Hennessey) their WHOLE carreer with the Jesko Absolute, and they already know it ;)
It's only a matter of time now.
SSC has fans?
@@WlerickBigotOfficial Meh Jesko brings nothing new, same old V8 and it's basically Agera with different crank and chassis. Gemera is something to wait for
@Maverick Wohoo 3 million dollar car has new gearbox and is slightly more rigid.
@Maverick Yeah, we are living the last days of ICE cars. Just quit now or bring something really amazing to the table for the last time.
The weird thing about this is that they actually didn't have to cheat to break the record as it turns out.
May be the controversy was just a publicity stunt to get the funds for another run?
They did need to cheat when they had their closed desert road. How can the driver not know the difference between 240 mph and 330 mph? All verrrrrry sus...
On the NASA runway, they didn't exactly rush to 330 mph either. In the faked clip, the acceleration up high was like being bump drafted by a TGV bullet train on its own record attempt.
as a wise guy once said: they got us in the first-half not gonna lie
9:15 That Arnold impression was spot on 😂
Arnold who ?
wow, the part about the trailer flipping in utah really hit home for me. same thing happened last year with my 1962 cadillac ambulance, shipped it from utah and it barely made it to the state line. broke my heart
Mega oof :(
you failed to mention that by the time SSC finally set their 282mph "record", Bugatti had already moved the goalposts, to over 304mph
I read about the Tuatara as a concept car in a segment of EVO magazine in 2010. The proposed goal of a 270+mph top speed mentioned in the article seemed impossible to me then.
Of course I appreciate all the in-detail analyses done by guys like Misha and Shmee etc, but my favourite bit of analysis was that Agera RS vs Tuatara side-by-side footage comparison. It was hilarious to watch (and reassuring for a Koenigsegg fan).
"That's a lot of equations there buddy."
Me every time I watch Jason.
6:13 best beetle juice impression I've ever seen Disney hire the man lol
LOL I didn't catch that the first time. Good ear!
If I had a dollar for every time I've heard Donut say "bespoke", I could buy a bespoke American supercar
I agree. They say it too much. Let's never bespeak of this again. :D
It's better than Artisanal!
If it's a _production car,_ you just grab another from the _production line,_ and continue testing.
but of a smaller company than its competitors, made only 100 and probably tried to push every single one out the door
bit*
The Arnold Schwarzenegger impression was hilariously close
that's what made me like the video
Jason is probably the only guy i can take for SERIOUS on RUclips when it comes to "Reality" on Cars.
Nolan is the best, atleast he doesn't shout that much🤣🤣
I'm guessing when James had to take a break for a bit, it was due to a cocaine heart attack that they blamed on Nas energy drink
Lightning! Lightning! Lightninghhhh!!! 😁
it feels great
@@skinnybuddha8988 🤣🤣🤣
@@fcgHenden frightening! Frightening! Frighteningggghhhh!!!!!!!!
man if ssc just showed the real speed they would've had the opportunity to be taken seriously on the world stage, now everyone calls it a shell car, what a shame.
The car looks beautiful as well, too. Pyshics be damned.
Maybe they really did have faulty equipment?
Fun fact;:
Tuatara is actually an ancient lizard from New Zealand and is believed to be the closest descendant from dinosaurs. It also has three ‘eyes’. Two of them are normal, and the third is a light sensing one on its head.
Im glad some1 pointed that out. New Zealand my home country 🇳🇿
@@NZAucklandSouth Chur bro, same!
@@thefrogoverlord4014 🤜🏽🤛🏽 keep safe bro
The real question about the SSC Cars is: are they as good as a Koenigsegg overall or just in a straight line?
Highly doubt it. The tech behind a Konigsegg is on a different planet. Tuting a carbon fibre body as one of the main features in this day and age is kind of, well, 1990s.
Just so everyone knows, the chiron 300mph doesnt count. They were going with the wind. And didnt do a reverse one.
Doesn't matter they still hit 300mph it just isn't an official record.
And the Chiron was not road legal. But they hit the 300mph mark first
@@azwads5126 they have to hot going both ways.
Damn I remember them announcing this car 8-9 years ago when I was in middle school. Interesting to see it come to fruition all these years later (sort of)
When I was in middle school, we learned in science class that by the time we turned 25 years old, cars would drive themselves. And that kids as young as 10 years old would be able to "drive." I'm 36 years old now. Self-driving car tech exists, but it's rather primitive. And I don't see any 5 graders driving themselves to school.
@Donut Media
Could you please start giving us some of the numbers in metric units.
no
If Engineering Explained says it's cap, it's cap. Shmee loves everything, so finding out his disdain is surprising 🤔
It had been well and truly been proved false by the time Jason got his hands on it. Shmee initially, then Robert Mitchell leading the charge; his take leading to him being included in the people there to witness the rerun. ruclips.net/video/fSNRKBj_hUE/видео.html
Got my pound-to-kg and mile-to-km convertion calculators ready for this video
The SSC horsepower figures always weird me out, they're squeezing even more abnormal numbers out of V8s than Koenigsegg. I wonder how long they last, there must be some kind of drawbacks
"I wonder how long they last"
Same. Dragsters need to rebuild their engines after every run.
The Jesko makes 1,600 hp with a 5 L V8 running E85 and the Tuatara makes 1,750 hp with a 5.9 L V8 running E85. It seems very reasonable.
And Koenigsegg started out with Modified Crown Vic engines!
@@456MrPeople and thats the only other car even close to it, which is exactly my point. and even thats 400 more than the Agera
@@jonas1015119 Sounds reasonable to me. 0.9L bigger for 150 hp. That's 320 hp per liter for the Koenigsegg, 296.6 hp per liter for the Tuatara.
This really makes me wonder....
Did the SSC Ultimate Aero really hit the top speed they claimed all those years ago?
That was verified by Guinness so I’m pretty sure it was looked into closely
@@tbonetom7157 You can buy yourself a Guinness world record almost as easily as you can fake a top speed run. They are one hell of a shady institution... but they do have a decent verification process once they actually go to work on something.
Well, it was confirmed by Guinness world record experts, so there's not that much of a doubt about that
@@schlafanzyk So true. It is surprising that more people don't know this.
Love the reload sound when Nolan fixes his glasses
I think it's utter negligence on the part of SSC to initially claim it did 331 mph in first place. How can you mess that up so badly ?
You should watch the video from Robert Mitchell (and Misha Charoudin). They explain and show quite well.
The first video: ruclips.net/video/eEB-X4MEsjs/видео.html
The rerun (yes, he was on-site and was given full insights to the measurement equipment): ruclips.net/video/Env-uFvSydI/видео.html
and to claim they did it with a v8tt when it took the chiron 300 a w16qt to even get to 304, they expected people to except it because "the computer said so" and there isn't a reason to question it because they put "so much effort" into something that doesn't even sound like it can reach 290+ on spec sheets
@@Firefrei While the point is fine, using an engine type as comparison is a beginner mistake mate. There is minimal correlation between an engine type, and it's actual performance.
A TTV8 can easily push these hp numbers, or more. And the W16QT that the Chiron uses is nowhere near its limit in the first place - it's not even in half power tune right now when producing 1500hp in base form. The engine can push more than double that, but Bugatti doesn't tune it to its peak for a multitude of reasons.
Either way, don't use the type of engine to justify your point. You don't need it, and it only works against your argument.
@@Real_MisterSir very true, i would like to see bugatti push the engine around the 2000 hp mark and do a top speed trial with that but like you said there are reasons why they kept it at a nice 1600