We React | We Push Back Against "Somalis Are Not Black"!
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2023
- At Speaker's Corner in London, a controversial topic was raised where African youth from the British capital discussed their roots.
Some Somali youngsters refused to accept they are Black, stating their culture, language and heritage proves they are not.
But is this just another example of people falling for colonial stereotyping? Are they trying to distance themselves from their Africanness because of dominant negative Black narratives? Is this why the Somalis in this clip refuse to accept their own identity and colour?
Whether Somali, Moroccan or Nigerian, the necessity of being unified and proud of our origins is a must, and while we may not be identically homogenous and have difference in ethnicity and religion, our Africanness or Blackness must not be denied. That is weakness rather than strength.
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#London #Youth #Somalia #Black
I’m from Somalia 🇸🇴 & Identify as being BLACK & From Africa . I’m proud of it a 1000% . They want us to be divided & hate each other. Don’t ever fall for that.
Low self esteem alert. Next u will say “ I identify as being part of the curly hair race, I’m proud of my curly hair” 😂😂
United we stand to overcome any obstacle imaginable. Let the spirit of togetherness prevail
@@alimo3011 - How is his commentary indicative of low self-esteem? It's interesting that you mentioned curly hair because it is hair texture that differentiates original people from those formed through genetic recessive mutations where the coil has collapsed (straight).
@@sonyacotton4881 If ur proud of ur skin why do u have to mention it every 5 secs??
And my point was why stop at skin tone??
Is he not proud of his other features??
@@alimo3011- I see what the problem is...your issue is with the use of the identifier "black". You don't comprehend that "black" is used interchangeably to reference AfRAkan, Negro or Bantu people with melanin-DOMINANT DNA distinguishable by our coily hair, eyes and skin. Our DNA materialized out of triple blackness that is ETERNAL NATURE. We are a carbon representative of nature in physical form. Carbon is _black._ This is not rocket science.
The Somali guy in the original video would be shocked to find out North African Arabs don't identify with him the way he thinks.
He’s just a young kid. Any adult Somali person would tell him that that’s a joke.
Yea he’s completely nuts. Majority of Somalis identify as East Africans and wouldn’t want to be arab even if it was possible
Somalians are Africans. Period. It doesn't matter if they may have encountered the cultural proximity and, of course, the Islamic ties. That's only religious; I'm not somalian but i can argue that the original language isn't Arabic! I learned that Somalians are even some of the oldest people in part of east Africa. I would be attempted to believe that because "Somali" people are also, in part, in Kenya. Iam not talking about "Somalians" which refer to the nationality! A tribe or, otherwise,an ethny is enough evidence to show where its people originated; it doesn't matter if they wandered in the middle east, or even intermarried; they may be speaking Arabic. So what?
Hold on! I speak fluent French, English, and Lingala, Swahili ,Kinyarwanda. Does it make French, or British or else? I'm catholic but some in my family are Muslims. You get what I'm saying? So, do not fall in a category of division. That happened before!
Well, in Africa we have a problem of identity just because those things aren't thought in schools, as they should! What do they say, "if you don't know your past..." I let everyone to complete the sentence!
Now, have a great day!
I am egyptian nubian and majority of arab egyptians always ask me where I am from when I say I am egyptian they say no way or how are you egyptian, most arabs egyptian dont even recognize black Egyptians as fellow Egyptians, so a somali to them is no way related to them, he would get called abeed or monkey 😂
@@Hippobottomless there's somalis who lives in east Africa it's not just the so called Arabs living in east Africa..
I'm a African American living in Ghana. Thank You! There is hope for our continent.
That's great
Somalis REJECT western colonial color system because they know their lineage and language which is intact to this day. Most Africans who attack Somalis are delusional hypocrites who have adopted their oppressors colonial color system and speak his language as their official language. Whether it’s English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, etc.
Somalis are the ONLY people in the continent who named their country, people, language, sea, etc after their tribe which is Somali. However, you never find those who attack Somalis in the continent saying or doing the same thing.
I am a somali man but i am african black and i am proud of that. Thank Allah
WE ARE NOT BLACK! You've been misguided Brother
U can’t be proud of something u had no choice to
@@khalidqawdhan3265 man what's ur pbl
You not black you are a Muslim Somalian
@@Nolikes_Media Muslim Somali is not a race or ethnicity. He is black. Is a Swede different to an Italian? Are they not both Caucasian?
This is what Africa needs. Educated young individuals who work together across different lines. Men who are not quick to talk and spread misinformation. Our people perish due to lack of knowledge. The way these men put the debate is well structured. Today we carry the identity of African. I am African before my country name. Let us move on to create the African identity which is a basket of people inside the continent and diaspora. I can for the most tell about a handful of African ethnicity where I live. We are very diverse people inside one continent so there is a need for us to work very hard to have a similar philosophical thinking.
Africa is continent not identity or Race idiot
What is the name of the continent Africa before the Opressor Mr Africanus named us Africa the name Africa was the named given to our motherland by Phonecians,Greeks and Romans.....now let's stop suffering from the Columbus syndrome ...dig deep WHO ARE YOU ? BEFORE THEY TOLD YOU WHO YOU ARE?
@@chuichongo3898 before all that Kingdoms in Africa had different names for the continent or the observable area they stayed in. I forgot some names but the names of Africa before we know it today is public knowledge. The term African itself was not used to describe the whole Africa. Before the Europeans came I am who my ancestors were. I am a Muluba from Congo but I identify for myself as an African first whichever way we put it. I come from a sprouting agricultural community south west of Congo neighboursing Angola. We can change the name but the continent will still be who I am. The modern day idea of Africa is unique because it refers to a land mass and not a group of people. However, we are the first people in Africa to try and unite under one banner called Africa, this has never been done here on this continent.
@@chuichongo3898 the question now is who are you? Who are you before they called you African?
@@kambuyiblack7462 Nice stuff bro
Well done, brothers! These false divisions imposed on ALL African people imposed on us by colonial powers and now perpetuated by the ignorant minority MUST be overcome. Our differences and diversity are our strength and we cannot allow external forces and miseducation to divide us. This video is a great way to heal the divide.
Powerful. Thank you
When Germans turned up in Rwanda they had a Tutsi monarchy
The Hutu were farmers
The Tutsi would have been better educated
The Hutsu eventually regained power and independence
In Sudan the Arabs were mainly in control and were conducting slave trade there
They are paler
Now N sudan are 70% Arab and Arab admixture so prodominatly paler
@@bluebell3720 almost in every instance where there had been a coexistence among disparate groups for centuries and in some cases thousands of years, colonial forces went to work. Divisions were exacerbated and accentuated to create deeper, more violent divisions and chaos. Groups were purposely favored over other groups and pitted against each other. Then the colonial powers feigned the roles of peacemakers to squash the divisions that they instigated. The chaos was their creation and their solution was permanent colonial presence and dependence. Meanwhile cooperative leaders were paid off lavishly so the coffers of natural resources could be looted and non cooperative leaders were overtly assassinated, or their planes fell from the sky, or they died of sudden infant death syndrome or they were couped out of existence by constant foreign financed insurgencies. This method of divide and conquer, colonialism and rule for rapacious greed has continued to this day.
Leaders even those elected are propped up repeatedly by external forces that pay them to open the gates to the castle. This is why the current wave of military coups in BF, Mali and Niger offer promising hope that finally since the last 400 years things might be changing for the better.
Nevertheless, this is only a transitional period and where we turn up has yet to be determined.
They are trying to apply the same divisive tactics they used especially in the US
This is a good video. Thank you for sharing it. More knowledge is needed. More history has to be shared. More conversations need to occur between people of African descent. WE will never win as a people if we continue to harbor so much negativity toward one another and toward ourselves. These attitudes seem to come from colonialism and slavery (in the case of those of us in the diaspora). I would love to see you do a video between Africans and African Americans…. In order to help bring the pan-Africanist spirit back. These diaspora wars trouble me.
Proud African and Somali. Nothing is better than to be Black. Thanks for educating
We are not Black
@trusttruth9916 But You are Black with Beautiful Chocolate Brown skin... You are not Asian (yellow) or Caucasian (white)
You are Gorgeous Dark brown, Chocolate brown and Honey colored & Copper Colored People who are African❤️
@@orangegoldenhoney4899 Thank you for what you might think are compliments, but I must reiterate again, go look up the word Black and research the Blacks Law dictionary, they gave us this colour because it's degrading and means nothing, they also used colours to divide us, the original people of the Americas was what? stop Romanticising Negativity, I'm just not with it.I'm not brainwashed I have an independent mind
You are African and Somali and you are "black" in the viual descriptor sense, but that is it. There is NO such thing as a black identity. To say you are black is to say you are a black American. A black American and someone from the DRC have NOTHING in common. They don't speak the same language, have completely different cultures and have different views on life.
To put yourselves in some kind of skin color based club based on nothing but skin color is doing the exact same thing you people cry the racist people of the past did to you when they stripped African individuals of their identity. Why the f*ck then are you people continuing to do it to yourselves?
@@trusttruth9916What are yall arabs ???? Arab mixed????? Nigga you gone have to say something or get treated like a bunch of arabs. On yall niggas. As far as I'm concerned you in particular is a blackamoor. And enemy to every single black nation on planet earth
I am Somali and I'm proud to be African. I really enjoyed this.
blessings ,kenya
Amen
Yes as long as you do not bring any Arabic influences into are homeland like Allah worship then you are ok, otherwise please go east and live in Arabia.
Throughout my college years in Canada I was approached by my African Sisters and brothers. They came up to me to give me hugs… “My Sister, where are you from?”I said Jamaica, but I know I’m African. It was always a beautiful moment.
when i was at oxford u in england. am south asian but black students used tio approach me to join their black clubs/societies , i chased them away each time and told them if i wanted to join black clubs i would not be in europe . blacks practice reverse racism . however i do think they suffer from inferiority complex, have low self esteem hence they all fraternize with their own race . its just pretence . they worship caucasions but are scared to speak to them . my estonian girlfriend says i have a russian soul
Europe and all them light skin people unite as one to rob us, so let not be stupid and unite to save our selves because the next time they come they will be coming to wipe us out and they seeing us all as black.
Blood is thicker than water..
Nothing must divide the African
Damn. I wish this could happen to me in America. A dream....
The most shocking part for me was Ahmed's story about a Somali man forced to flee his country due to endless civil war, living in Kenya and still having the audacity to call Kenyans "stupid".
Human beings are frail and callous. Sad part is that he is probably feeding his kids that nonsense.
These dinosaurs like that man cannot check out to wherever they think they going after they die soon enough.
They are refugees everywhere being hosted but still think they are superior to everyone😅
The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can divorce the politics from the citizenry. You may have proved him right.
@@neoreign Somalis (from Somalia) aren't in a position to cast aspersions on the intelligence of Kenyans given they've set their country back 200 years and they'd rather live in ours. Just my two cents. But thanks for playing.
He was still on AFRICAN SOIL... We must break these colonial boundaries IMMEDIATELY
Proud of these young men. There's hope for Our continent ❤
At around the 21:00 mark these Brotha's started squeezing my heart and tear ducts. I am so very glad to hear the youth speaking like this. Blessings and Love from Alabama. Stay strong, stay together and keep building.
As an African American, this is so educational!
So now you see the challenges facing blk unity.
What kind of african are you? What tribe?
@@fredbantu3694 No such thing as blk unity.
I believe she means the descendants of slaves taken to the US. @@spaceghost2473
@@fredbantu3694
Why can't blk unite? And what have Africans to do with blk uniting?
The funniest thing is we are not even ‘black’ this is a European word that has only been created and weaponised approximately 500 years ago. We are Africans and Africa is the mother of all civilisation, we have the most diverse continent on this planet.
No no no you’re not African Europeans created the word African
We are african period , or will can universally say we are also alkebulan
We are black
@@dimbwemazala8978 crayons are black, People are not crayons.
@@WeAreTrueAfrican Moors.
Well done guys. I'm from cameroon but I do enjoyed listening to you. All together we will make Africa proud again ❤
I'm a African American from the Midwest and did the DNA ancestry and my roots are Cameroon Bantu
+237❤
Thank you Good Brothers. Excellent conversation. I appreciate that these Brothers are having this conversation and only hope that it will be had inside a much larger forum. We need this world wide to break the evil cycle
Alhamdulilah!, Brothers, all of you have demonstrated all African ideology of oneness. The entire African continent and people of African descent worldwide are extremely happy to hear the oneness of Africa. Alhamdulilah!
"Unite African people all over the world". Beautiful. Thank you for this video!
I enjoyed listening to this conversation from 3 well informed brothers, love ❤ from Zimbabwe
As an Afrikan-in-America, I appreciate the intelligent conversations on this channel...✊🏾
Africa must be united from Somali to Djibouti to Mauritania,to West Africa to South Africa for Africans to make it economically,
We would thrive, not just make it economically.
Mauritania is part of North Africa
If people stood up for the countries like Burkina Faso is doing then it is easy to support so we could trade , but illegal immigrating to other countries then compete with me for my resources it is not fair. Fight for your countries so we could build trade .
@@rima8704still africa
And dont forget, our survival as a race of people.
Gwaan my young brothers - well said, you totally hit the nail on the head on a range of topics from self /social identification to the effects of post colonialism on the diaspora to the nodding of heads which brought a smile to my face as I had just done that a few days earlier (London bredren here so)
One love family
I love this conversation it was really needed to clear the air, peace and love to all of Africa from Eritrea
I’m Somali and proud to be an African 🇸🇴from horn of African.
Are u proud been Black? Yes or No?
Yes. I am Kenyan, you are Somali, we are African, not black. Black is an American identity. I don't understand why it is a problem for them that we don't identify as black. In Africa, we identify with our cultural heritage and it is not offensive to the rest of us. It does not mean that we are looking down on anyone when we identify with our heritage.
@@rosam674 so is white an American identity as well. A common question turn into explanation. Isn't Islam an Arab identity? Why do u use it in Africa? Wasn't the word African coined by a white person? Why do u use it? Africa is for Blacks, not people who don't want to identify with blacks because islam told them blacks were Slaves.
Ur ethnicity is not enough. Ur race is not enough. U been African is not.
U have to subscribe to this “black” tribe and be proud of it 😂😂.
Forcing on us a foreign identity that was forced on them and calling us confused and self haters is laughable.
@@JudehEmpireIslam is a religion. Not an identity. 75% of Muslims r none Arabs. I’m not going to bring up Christianity because I respect peoples believes and don’t want to turn this into a religion thing. But going by ur thinking, u can’t not be “black “ and Muslims right ??
I’m from west Africa and I’ve had a lot Somali friends in Chicago since 2005 and not one time I’ve ever heard them say that they’re not black. In fact they became even more friendlier with me and my cousins when they realized that we were all black Africans. Even the elderly Somalians!
Yeah, because mostly that weird sentiment are UK Somalis not the rest of us Somalis.
Because it different in uk as the majority of Somalis in uk identify as Somalis and have received hate from Jareer stupid dhilo@@DekaHana38
@alainmekoyo1131 I kinda agree with you. But they mustn't do upperity on me.
Black are desperate to claim us because they have a racial inferiority complex. Only a people without culture and values would think of being defined by their skin color! In America, they do because they are descendants of slaves and the european descendents wiped out their culture. So the only thing that separates them is 'color'. We have our own country, language and culture. We value our muslim religion and Somali culture more than this banal concept of 'skin color'; something most ppl now can’t relate to. We are not interested in thinking of ourselves as 'victims'. None of us have a inferiority complex like you.
@@DekaHana38 UK go by ethnicity I think. America go by skin tone.
Thank you. This was wonderful. Never heard this topic broken down so well - much respect to the three intelligent brothers speaking.
This is beautiful! Thank you my brothers. Sending love from the US.
insightful. thank you gentlemen for breaking down this topic in a mature, intelligent way
Here in Botswana. We see and treat Somalis as Africans and blacks
And this is right! Having picked up - more or less voluntarily - some other continent dna throughout history is not an exclusive Somali feature - bring a member of the Arab league doesn’t make you an Arab
Thanks
@@masehostoryteller1896 😂😂🤣🤣 Arab league 😂😂😂😭
Facts homie.
u playing with fire
Thank you for this, enjoyed it. Blessings
I really loved this conversation!!!! I’m African American and the division is ridiculous I use Black and African American interchangeably not divisibly. The proximity chase is foolish but very real!!! Peace Brothers
Another brilliant conversation. Thanks for the talk brothers !
Great video African Stream. This was the needed response. We are all Africans and should stand together. Unity is the Key, as our elders Lumumba, Nkruma, Malcolm, Garvey, Nyerere, and others have insisted. 🎉
What an informative video. Learned so much! Keep talking.
This is a conversation that I could never really take seriously, but you guys really broke it down calmly and intelligently using history
Such a great and candid conversation. Thank you!
Awesome video bro! I’m glad you guys are working to course correct! It’s time bro 💯✊🏽💪🏽 shoutout from the United States. Keeping learning, growing, and uniting. That’s what it is about. The longer we allow the them folks to divide using their manipulative and historical tactics the longer it will take to develop back into our rightful places.
One love to my Somali brothers and my fellow black africans. Greetings from an Eritrean ❤👍🏿💪🏿🇪🇷
Clown.
Shame on you for calling us black Africans
@@JustinYiseverywhere Are you ok?
@JustinYiseverywhere Yes, we are. Go anywhere around the world. The first thing They will notice is you black
@@JustinYiseverywhereI think you have a problem in your mind
Thank you brothers! We desperately need to have these conversations
We have to rewrite the story as a black. Somali people like others African people lost their story.
WHO said YOU were black... the colonialist who ALSO called THEMSELVES WHITE WHICH obviously THEY ARE NOT.
@@halwarner6688 does blackish and pinkish sound better.🤔
No, they understand the allegory behind the term black, that it represents a construct rather than being a biological fact.
Somalis are not only Africans persay but great Africans who hold their cultures very tightly, they can,t be manipulated or influenced by any means, other issues with the Somalis they don,t force themselves to other practice that is not African cultures, Somalis also value dignity to themselves, & dignify others as well, you can,t force a Somali to do any job just bkos your his boss, something they don,t see right they will tell you no we don,t do that is wrong & on blank point, without undermining you, just straight to their point, but most other group of see these the Somalis to rude & very bad, but if you work with them for sometimes than you see they are great people
@@abdiadan4837Is Islam African?
This was beautiful and very informative, im sure many Africans learnt something new, i know i did-lets move away from these divisions that were placed on us and unite as one, we would be so much more powerful
This discussion is amazing ❤❤❤ love it
This is so enlightening. What an inspiration you all are. I’m going to study African history to understand my origins. Thank you so much, keep up the great work ❤
brothers, bringing some serious knowledge, that's Unity, keep acknowledging one another by a nod, a fist bump or a verbal greeting etc, That's Unity!
We need to have more conversations like this.God bless Africa
Great conversation! One love my brothers! ❤️🖤💚
What a great conversation, so glad I could listen to this and learn. I am happy to hear you talk so respectfully and with solidarity about all Africans❤
This is amazing podcast, i enjoyed every bit of it and it was so professionals to best.
Thank u for having this kind of educational topic. The young nd educated generation has to change the old state of mind of ours that only encourages division. Pls continue this kind of topic nd teach nd lead our egnorant youth like the one on the video. Respect.🙏👏👏
Dope conversation, Our people globally need to hear this.
Good job Zakaria deeq
You made us proud 👏
I like how you explained to my African brothers the somali history back in the golden days
I was born in the Caribbean, but have lived in the United States most of my life. This conversation is very important to blacks globally! We need more discussion about unity, love, and support! Without that, it’s very difficult to overcome the oppression & exploitation we have been fighting for centuries.
Hey where in Caribbean?
@@erickmoenga1206I’m pretty sure Trinidad. They are the only people who say they are from the Caribbean rather than their country. It’s very interesting to hear this all the time
This is a very interesting topic. Being an African in the UK, seeing Somalians as brothers and sisters from Africa, this is a sad reality to witness.
But more so happy that these young people are intelligent enough to discuss and teach each other and all of us. Some comments I have seen by many Somalians show unity of being black and African.
Many strong historical facts shared. Impressive.
Knowledge, the right knowledge is always power.
Thank you for the video, Africans we are one.That is wonderful conversation urging oness to all our black brothers and sisters. Let us be the light to each danger.Blessings to all
That was a very enlightening conversation young men. Continue to press forward with your mission. Africans United!!!
This was a great discussion. It was very informative.
Insightful, well-articulated discussion. United we stand. Thank you.
Amazing discussion. This is the way forward. I applaud you brothers.
Wonderful talk, thank you all.
These young men are 💯 correct. We are one✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
We are African just not black... we're not Arab either
@@skp8748were black 🖤
A tamal can claim the same thing so can a Sri Lankan
@@cocoday6215 no. Neither. Why lie? Are Indians and Chinese the same people
@@cocoday6215 we're Africa
I love this video is fantastic. The 3 of you are very informative. One thing that’s interesting to me, many “Blacks” in America is trying to get away from that term to the origin of who we are. Yet, Africa is embracing it. Never ever loose your identity to connect. ❤🙏🏾✌🏽
Thank you for this. Very educational
Well said guys we need more of this talk online where our people can be reached
I'm Somali & Am Proud To Be Black African 🇸🇴✊🏾🇪🇹👑
Then why the second flag if you’re proud? Doesn’t go together
@@BBGL02he can be mixed
@@shaqolaaan idk it’s weird to add a flag when talking about a different ethnicity
That’s right! I am a proud Hebrew woman descended from the Biafra’s of Nigeria, who were sold into slavery, and ancestors brought to the Caribbean and South America. I am black, and I am proud!
There were no Hebrews in Nigeria. We Igbos are NOT Hebrews. You are doing exactly what the panelists are preaching against. Proximity to Whiteness!
Amen sister
Black was a collar the Portuguese the European came up to call people like us with brown skin. I was wondering why we, as people of brown skin, have to accept the collar others give us. We have our own identity. Just because the Europeans Calle us black, that doesn't mean we have or need to accept that. Just like they called the native Americans redskins, or the Chinese, yellow people. They even named the continent of afrika and never bother to ask how our people called the continent. By accepting their description of us, we are destroying our own history and cultural identity. We should not accept people calling us black. It's not what or who we are.
@@rodniegsm1575❤ your reply. I don't accept black as a race anymore!! That's how it's used by those in control, lumping all colored people into one word that is NOT representative of human beings=facism. Tell others of the country you're born and the ethnicity you live is a good method of identity.
@@rodniegsm1575who care they don't complain being called white because they are and we shouldnt care what they call us we are what & who we are & they can identify us as wtf they want we are the Gods period
I love the conversation. Very intelligent indeed from you brothers.
Very impressed with this even and intelligent discussion. My brother from Sudan with the Bolton accent 🙌🏾
I wish we as Africans would just get together, hold hands and sing kumba ya. We would rule the world if we do that
Arrogance and a superiority complex are a personality trait that's genetic. Instead of ignoring ppl with these types of personality disorders, victims are pleading for their acceptance and internalizing their behaviors.
Impossible.
You can't stop killing each other long enough!
Im with you on that, but before we can do that we need to first change the indoctrination some of our Africans brother have by accepting colonisator descriptions of our people.
forget
@@trulyblessed5254 Not really arrogance. I feel sorry for Africans that feel the way though I understand them, I mean there is a need not to be the worst of the worst, Being the best of the worst is still something sha,
Point of correction bro, the Congos 🇨🇩 are far richer than Egypt-- or most l of them North African countries in terms of resources !!. Greetings from 🇳🇬 Naija
Agreed !!!! This is the reason The west refuse to let go of Congo!!!!
I think what he means is standard of living and not resources. I am a Somali and I believe Egyptian standard of living is better compared to Somalia but we have rich resources.
Ahahaha...now I've watched it. RUclips ain't big enough for this chat 🤣. This level of analysis, introspection and discussion is perfect. More will learn. Also, production wise first rate 😎 thank you.
I needed this 🖤💚❤️
You guys did a great job disarming the ignorance.
I am a black Bahamian I know the nod and the reason behind it too.
Well come we stand together
You all powerful music helps to like North American legends Isley Brothers song Caravan of Love)!!! And Frankie Beverly and Maze song (We are ONE)!!! Much respect for these brothers and unity agmost us and others too!!!
I love it 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾well structured,very educational,
Keep these conversations going
I am Somali but I've always identified as Black & African, my parents were both very much Pan-African too, my Mother especially. One Africa!!! ❤ 🇸🇴
Somalia as a Nation is presently on course to join the East African Community..How much more African can it get😊😊
apparently west african is more african according to the guy in the video
I think thins is a terrible mistake being made by money hungry and morally bankrupt politicians. It isn't the decision of the citizens, you're acting like they did a referendum. We have a dictator in charge based on his clan allegiance
Join what? 😂😂
That will resolve some of their issues
Just like drc joined but still stuck with discrimination towards their citizens that look somali ethiopian
We (the people) dont want to join the puppet president wants to so he can embezzle more funds
The comments are great keep them coming. One point of clarification Ahmed Kaballo the guy in the middle and African Stream CEO is not wearing nail vanish but Henna which Sudanese men wear after weddings of close relatives or friends. He is Sudanese not Somali
I've not even watched the video, but just the gravity of such a conversation. Kudos 🔥🥰
Wow this is sad how even these children see themselves🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. The lack of knowledge will always make you perish.
Do you mean? You mean identifying as a Somali which is what they’ve identified as for thousands of years?
No! Native Africans are Africans. We are not Black. We are Africans. Black is an American identity. Most continental Africans don't identify with it. Never heard of it until RUclips and TikTok happened. Now we are being forced to stop calling ourselves African or referring to our cultural heritage and instead erase all that we are to call ourselves black. No! Why? We are African. African is the original identity of our people. Black is the slave master's term.
If these people don't want to identify as Black/African, then OBLIGE THEM.
We need to Stop fighting to hold on to such problematic people. Let the trash take itself out.
They're doing the hard work for us REAL Africans at the end of the day. Show them the door and be done with them. We Blacks have TOO much on our plate as is.
We need to get in the habit of cleaning house. THOROUGHLY.
What do you mean we black as if somalis are not black.
My man!!!!
@@robinharrington8073 This person is clearly not African. Stop giving air to people that are trying to divide us. Just because some people don’t want to use colonizer skin colour labels does it mean that they are rejecting their ancient African identity.
@@abduljabbarmohammed4188 The post means any person who you thought was black but they tell you otherwise, let them go immediately. I have zero energy for trying to convince someone they are Black. Mistaking someone for a brother when they are not is how you invite an enemy into your home.
Pretty simple,we have nothing to lose.
Either you join or get left behind
This was editing. It brought me joy. You’ve got a subscriber from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹
I love this channel and discussion
This is really eye opening, We all need to own our contribution to "We are not black" from the Somalis, From what I get is that they are owed apologies from brothers n sisters who they feel shunned them in their time of need, The other African say Kenyans feel that the Somalis are ungreatful over the sacrifice they made upto date to accommodate them. Kenyans also feel that Somalis project how others in America or Europe made them feel less than on them.
Great conversation by these brothers and very constructive. I just want to add that as an African American we get this same treatment from some of our brothers and sisters from countries in Africa.
I’ve had numerous encounters with plenty of Kenyans and Nigerians who go out of their way to distinguish themselves from Black people in America. They will say “we are not Black, or you are not African.”
It’s very divisive and definitely rooted in the colonial mindset. It’s become very problematic out here and that’s why today you see many African Americans distancing themselves from our brothers and sisters from the continent that come over here.
I grew up in a very Pan Africanist environment and generally speaking Black people in the US have always been African centered in our identity but something has happened in the last couple of decades where that has shifted.
Kenyans and Nigerians are not "Black" like Black Americans. They both have their cultures and traditions. The only thing they have in common with us is skin tones. However, when living in a diverse country like America we need to know the system will treat us like we are the same, so why not learn from each other and be productive?
@@raineyfall628as a Nigerian I agree more with what you are saying. I can not be as “black” as black Americans and you cannot be as “African” as an African regardless of descent. That’s just the reality.
What we do share is a common struggle and we can unite on that basis.
Yes I see the same shift really in the past decade. Instead of African American, the term Black American is used more.
Excellent breakdown brothas 🔥💯
Thank you for the education
As an African American we all come Africa and are Africans one or another...
Personally, I say good riddance to them. They make it so easy for us REAL Africans by leaving them to draw up the boundaries.
All we have to do is simply oblige them. AT ALL COSTS. Leave no room for confusion or half-assed allegiances.
Leave the Horners to go with their Eurasian cousins. We REAL Africans have too much on our plate as is...
Stop the devide thru education we will be one! The white wants us devided so we don't unite and prosper!
But big booty somalian women love us 😢
What are you talking about? Somali people are one of the few African countries to actually draw their own borders. It’s like you guys dont learn anything about Somali history. You’re so quick to pick up colonizer identities and use it to create discord amongst Africans. Why are people who are thousands of years old going to use skin colour identities that were used to subjugate their fellow Africans? East Africans have fought fiercely against colonization and many refused to follow their stupid skin colour labels. It’s disrespectful to our ancestors. The only people who can have pride in a skin colour identity are African-Americans who took a source of terror and made it into a beautiful culture!
@@thezu9250 Draw their own boarders?
Every group once had a border,what about ethnic somalis in kenya and ethiopia.
Mogadishu is even persian language to start with.
Remember lots of african countries got independence before you.
Don't make it look as if you did a better job with colonizers.
@@bapalorininya8128Mogadishu is Somali for “killer vision” so calm down.
It's really unjust to make problems out of topics that have never shown themselves as a problem. I am happy that Brother Zakari Deeq shared with us the obvious historical achievements made by prior generations of Somalis; it shows us what they stood for over other differences. Instead of adding more segregation in Africa, let us bridge the empty gaps that try to split us; once we start viewing our fellow neighboring countries as part of each other's community, that's where we as Africans start heading, not the right way, but the proactive way - As brother Zakari said, we are intelligent so should the decisions we make be social intelligent - because contributions to one another strengthen our bond, you know, like a community. Thank you, Erick, Ahmed, and Zakari for tackling this topic head-on, good job guys.
Thank you guys. Good education
Let them be what they want to be. We Black African have to love ourselves and work to better ourselves. No problem be what you want to be.
What's important in Life is not being Somali or Kenyan , it's having a better Life on Earth.
Well said ❤
Powerful Words, "our survival depends on our unity"
I clap for you guys. Very well broken down!
Thanks for this discussion and work. I first heard about your work on Black Liberation Media.
No more dividing. 🙏🏿
Very intelligent young men. The only area I disagree with them or more like differ with their opinions is that they are young. Nothing they have talked about here in regards to self-identification is new. I am almost 66 years old and I can tell you from my own life experience as a black American that this subject is not new. Not even new to other peoples of the world. There are many ethnicities in Asia, Europe, Africa, and the so-called Eastern people. Only in recent decades have whites adopted lighter-skinned Israelis, Scottis, and others. Interesting to me is as I travel the world, I can see who white European colonists put in power wherever they occupied other peoples. They are always lighter-skinned. This really affected me when I moved to the Philippines and it is so clear that wherever you go there, lighter-skinned Filipinos run whatever office space. The darker-skinned Filipinos are more than often the "blue collar" workers. They are the service sector. When it comes to my larger black family (wherever they may be in the world) I am encouraged more so now than at any other time in my life because of the internet. It will become very clear to a lot of people that as you call them "the enemy" if you don't look like them. If your skin is not pink like theirs and you don't have European ancestry, you are black. Doesn't matter if you are Asian, Middle Eastern, or any other people. If you are not of European ancestry, you are not white, which means you are ultimately black in their eyes. It is also very encouraging to see and hear black African nations speaking up and out about France and others stealing from the people of Africa. Just be aware that the enemy will look for other ways if they can't take by force what they see as "theirs". At present, they will try to get other black nations to do their dirty work for them. They will attempt to have us fight against one another. This is what they do everywhere we are. More than anything else, they lie. Believe nothing they say. They lie about everything. Even about themselves to themselves.
I'm white albeit Welsh and I'm sorry to agree with you. White people don't even know they're doing it. We are not educated at all about what the Empire did. Those who realise support free Africa. It is the century of Africa. Please educate where possible not hate, or it will all endlessly repeat.
We need Frankie Beverly and Maze song (We are ONE)!!! Sure is powerful!!! So is the Isley Brothers song (Caravan of Love)!!! Sad world
Wow what an interesting convo. I am subscribing to this channel because of this video.
I learned a lot from this video 😊! Wow!
My mother, born early 1900's in Tobago in the Caribbean, followed the reports concerning every event on the African continent, and mourned the assassination of every patriot during her lifetime.
She only had a radio and passed in 1988.
She was fully aware of who was who, and who did what, as much as she was able to acquire information.
She missed her calling, I suspect.
May she rest in peace.