Couple of quick clarifications: 1) Yes I accidentally put a picture of Turns 1/2 instead of Spoon. Oops, my error! 2) When I say "downforce" in referring to going through dips/crests, I mean a general downforce not an aerodynamic downforce. So I'm talking about a force acting downwards on the car. In this case, it's a mechanical downforce.
The "downforce" you are referring to with elevation change is often talked about as weight on the tire contact patch. The more "weight" the more grip; the less weight the less grip. That is why cars spin at the top of Eau Rouge where there is less weight on the tire contact patch instead of at the bottom of those turns. (Aero downforce also increases the weight on the tires.)
Well it's not strictly weight as weight is a force due to the acceleration under gravity and this inertial force is due to position-based vertical acceleration, so I wouldn't want to inaccurately call it weight. I say this as someone who inaccurately called it 'downforce' instead of a 'downward force'. :)
At the beginning I was like dude they're corners what's interesting about that? I seriously wasn't expect to learn this much from this. Great video as always
Jeremias Pereyra same here was very curious what could be said about them other than describing an apex as the fastest line through like we’ve all seen 100 times.
I’ve just gotten into F1 (mainly because I’m stuck at home because school is cancelled😂) and this channel is teaching me a ton of stuff thats super interesting cause I know practically nothing about any Motorsport
Visually speaking, this was entertaining to watch while at the same time easily understanding the varieties of corners. You could say that you really shouldn't take them for granted!
maaan, every time I watch one of your videos I go into the video thinking "well I'm not sure theirs going to be anything in this video I haven't heard somewhere before" and every time either you do manage to get some info across that is new to me or at least you manage to put all the info together so well that it sort of adds a new dimension of understanding even if one knew about all the various pieces already. Really really good job! Thanks a lot.
Castle Section at Baku, Mugello Final Corner (forgot the name), Tabac-to-pool sequence at Monaco, Suzuka's Spoon and 130R, and Eau Rouge at Spa. I appreciate your effort, sir. *Really* appreciate it. Who knew that corners take different shapes and quirks.
Muhammad Akmal Basyha Aziz I like the Mugello callout and would like to add the original Barcelona Catalunya last corner before they dumb chicane! And I never saw it but the last corner of the original F1 track we race at in Mexico sounded wild!
Bahrain, the corner before the 2. DRS zone (counter straight), it's seriously one of the hardest corners in my opinion, because it is: - downhill - decreasing radius - and also preluded by an opposite corner
The drivers don't really think about if the corner is off-camber or on-camber, but they do take it into consideration when they adjust the setup of the car, so yes and no. They are complex and through out a whole track you have a lot of different corners that you have to take in consideration and have to do sacrificing in one corner to get the winnings in another in the setup, but driving them is just like second nature.
Well, my cop-out answer would be the entire Nordschleife. It has everything you talked about here - changing radiuses, elevation, camber, and even difficult/changing sight lines to worry about, etc. If one would want to talk about character and interpretation/challenge, that conversation begins with the classic Nurburgring, imho Outside of F1, the Porsche Curves at the Circuit de la Sarthe are up there. Difficult, difficult series that I only truly appreciated after attempting to drive them in simulators. You always feel like you can make up more time in them; you never quite get through them absolutely perfectly (again, interpretation/room for error). And they can be so incredibly fast, too.
When I saw that corner on Top Gear I was like "yeah, that's pretty steep", then when I actually drove on Laguna Seca in a video game, I was like "Holy Fuck, it's like a sheer drop". Can't imagine what it's like in person, I'm guessing the release of fecal matter is involved in taking that turn irl.
I love the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca, and the following late apex corner. I’m unsure about real life, but especially in Gran Turismo it feels orgasmic when you absolutely nail the corner.
Seriously I bloody love this channel. Do a single video on each curve, types of curve, each track, their timelines and famous accidents or bst laps on them. I will watch it, I will watch them all. Also this will be an encyclopedia for more F1 fans for years to come. Amazing stuff man.
Hey Chain Bear F1! Thank for making me understand A LOT more in F1. When I first saw your channel and saw what you did I thought “What Can he do to make me understand F1?” I was wrong. Thanks for being one of the best mistakes of my life
Mt Panroma, Bathurst has some of the most lurid examples of elevation change affecting a race car. A whole sector of the circuit includes turns that go light and try to put the car into the concrete wall backwards and some others that load the car so heavily that power steering systems can very well fail, feeding you into the concrete fences forwards. It's a great example of what you talked about in this video.
My favourite corner is defintly Scheivlak at Zandvoort, fast downhill right hander with a crest before it, never disapoints. Also the mastersbocht-renaultbocht sequenze at Zandvoort is very tricky. The Ramshoek at Assen is also a great corner. Not to forget the great corners Brands Hatch and the nordschleife have
Ivan Ivanov yeah they are, you can really see who are the commited drivers in those corners, espescially the exit of the mastersbocht and the exit of thr ramshoek are good for that
I am a new fan to F1 (3rd year watching), your videos have GREATLY help my understanding of the basics and nuances of the sport! I am extremely impressed with you ability to explain the forces, strategies and techniques of the sport in such a simple way and still impart the in-depth details that matter! Thank you so much for this series!
I was just meandering my way around the Spa circuit in codemasters F1 game, and found myself daunted with all those types of corners and elevations changes.. I knew there would be a youtube video about corners and lo! Great info @chainbearf1 you're making it easier to understand and experience F1 ! Thanks
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Just wanted to say that your videos are getting so much better so quickly while maintaining the quite unique style. I like them a lot.
The Old Hairpin at Donington Park which requires some excellent driving especially when under pressure following Craner Curves! Off-camber, downhill and mistakes cost a lot of time going back up the hill! Excellent corner and very entertaining to watch!
For me the best complex of corners is at Bathurst across the top, from the end of mountain straight to exiting forests elbow. It has everything you talked about in the video in regards to making an interesting corner, plus the added difficulty of many of the corners being blind. And it doesn’t end there, the way the exit of one corner impacts the following producing great flow and it has great risk return.
On sim racing, one of the corners I love the most is the corkscrew corner at leguna, it so unique and I would be terrified to drive it in a real car due to the blind entry.
I agree with you, that whole track is a blast... However, my favourite turn on it is definitely The Cutting. We only could debate about Murray´s, it is really the only corner at Bathurst that has noting special about it i´d say.
People do not seem to be around racing other than TV nowadays. Thanks for explaining. I learned as a young man by helping on cars and later racing and I still Find your material very interesting.
top notch stuff mate. i've always really liked trying to figure out the characteristics of corners myself, but could never quite figure out why i hate corners like 1-4 in shanghai, and love corners 11-12 in australia and eau rouge in a way that makes sense on paper, but now i do! cheers mate, keep up the great work.
Love it, a very basic topic that often isn't explained well enough condensed to the main factor. I am just a little surprised you haven't mentioned bumps in a turn as they are most noticably changing the approach of drivers in turns. But maybe we'll see that mentioned in another video.
Being primarily for motorbikes, Cadwell Park has a grand variety of corners which includes many, if not all the elements you have described. In order. Coppice, fast LH rising as you go through the turn Charlie’s, double apex over a brow (blind) with a small but noticeable dip on the exit. Park. Simple, flat constant radius RH Chris Curve. Increasing radius RH leading to The Gooseneck. Fast right left combination with changing cambers changing from flat to downhill. Mansfield. Steep downhill approach to LH slight off camber. Chicane... yuck The mountain. Left/Right combo with changing radius and steep... Best you watch videos.. Hall bends. Right, Left, Right, Left with varying cambers and small changes in elevation. Love it. Hairpin. Barn. Medium fast RH blind entry to off camber exit.
Are you guys familiar with Mid-Field Raceway on Gran Turismo. I know its a fictional track but what intriguing is the continuous right hander following the main straight, the first kink is on-camber but the track width narrows from entry to exit (making knowing when to brake imperative to overall lap time) , this is all followed by a faster more obtuse right hander , the trick however is that the apex is normally shrouded by tree shade , nailing the apex is quite satisfying at race speed, getting it wrong sends you into a curb closely neighbored by a barrier on the outermost left hand side.
Excellent video again. It is great that you are back, doing regular videos. I thought all that potential was lost when i didn't see a video for ages. Keep up the good work man! :D
I love corners 6 (Pegaso) and 10, 11 (Bugatti) on the Jarama Spain, it makes it extra special too since I live around 2km away from it and hear the rawr of the cars when I am standing outside!! Great video, pls analyse some cool corners in another video, that would be epic!!
And the faster the car goes the bigger are effects of dips and crests! :O you've really made me appreciate racing for all the math and physics behind it
Mosport, outside of Toronto, Canada has two very challenging corners. The high speed Corner 2 arrives after a steep downhill and sweeps left seemingly off-camber. Many cars slide off there onto the necessarily huge run-off area. Corner 5A arrives after a heavy compression and requires turning right just as the suspension is rebounding. Denny Hulme, holding a huge lead, crashed there in his Can-Am McLaren on the penultimate lap. He muscled a destroyed car, body work shattered, front suspension broken, flat tires shuddering and smoking, through the final one and 1/2 laps and won the race. When asked what it was like to drive the demolished car at speed, he said, "Made the steering a bit heavy".
As for your question about cool corners, check out McPhillamy Park at Bathurst. A fast, blind, left hander over a crest with a wall on the inside and some well traveled dirt on the outside. You're pretty much a passenger through there.
I love turn 3 at Austria. Not a lot of corners on that track I guess, and I mainly know it from driving games, but the downhill run in at the end of a straight and relatively tight turn-in mean there's a lot of work can be done in the braking zone, but then the increasing radius letting you just feed the power in and let the car drag itself back to the outside, just in time for that horrible turn 4. It's such a nice feeling when I hook it up just right.
I only play Real racing 3 on my phone and you really made me understand why my "ariel" keeps slipping in au rouge it's really good to know the physics and how everything goes 😍😍😍 keep up the good work I really love your channel
Aski Check the roller coaster at Virginia International, and the Dipper at Bathurst both have a very similar vibe to the corkscrew. I love the corkscrew too. I always think of the pass by Zenardi when I see it.
Road America turn 5, COTA turn 1, the cork screw at Laguna Seca, turn 3 and 4 of Indianapolis infield circuit and The fountain at long beach are some more crazy corners
Something more to add about the elevation: If the whole corner is on a downhill section , more of the cars weight will be on the front , making it oversteer. If the corner is uphill , the car will tend to understeer through the corner. But because of the downforce to weight ratio of F1 cars , this will not be such a problem.
My favorite corner is the Corkscrew at Mazda Leguna circuit. You got a massive crest and massive dip in split second with very tight turns in the middle.
May you live long ChainBearF1, so that you could shed lights on F1. When a 14-15 year old comes to watch races with me, I suggest your videos to him to know more about F1.
Its true that multi-radius corners are more interesting, but to me its the combination that makes it good. Some of the nicest parts are often just good combinations of simple corners, like the becketts on silverstone.
Dear Chain Bear F1, I honestly have no words. Your videos are insanely engaging and interesting. Your animations are 100% awesome, how do you do it?! Keep it up! Kind Regards, Speed P.s; you wouldn’t happen to make a GT Sport Video?
My favourite corner, probably a bit biased as it's my nearest race track and host Grands Prix until 1986, is Paddock Hill bend at Brands Hatch. A very fast, off camber, steeply down hill right hander, which causes the car to bottom as it reaches the bottom of the dip before the slight climb to Druids hairpin. Having driven it myself, much more so than normal, you have to anticipate the apex way in advance as the off camber nature causes understeer. And once you get too wide, you're off. I used the Marshall's post before Paddock Hill as my reference braking point
The track at Bathurst (Mt Panorama) in Australia has a wonderful selection of tricky corners, and they have driven a F1 car around it (although never raced) Check out how the local touring cars (V8 Supercars) as well as GT cars deal with it. This track produces some very interesting racing. Back in the 70's and 80's there was one corner, the dipper, that would cause cars to three wheel though the apex because of the rapid elevation and camber change - over the years it has been smoothed and flattened, meaning the cars no longer carry a wheel in the air for anywhere near as long. The Caltex Chase is an interesting section as well, as you take the right hander at full speed, then try and settle the car rapidly so you can brake down to the third gear lefthander. Entry speeds are generally from top speed (around 300km/h in the V8 Supercars) This chicane was added because of the rising top speeds and the need to get cars slowed safely for the second gear left hander leading to the very short start/finish straight.
love the videos! and i love the foro sol corners in the mexican GP (maybe im bias as im mexican) mostly because of the element of being close to the track as the cars go by underneath rather than a technical aspect of the corners
Turns 4 and 5, as well as 15 at Portimao are really fun, the first set being challenging decreasing radius, uphill and even a little off camber, while the latter is a huge sweeping right-hander that lets you carry a lot of speed onto the front straight. The Esses at VIR are also really fun.
For just weird cornerns, the fountain at Long Beach (it is a fountain with a small hedge rather then a barrier). For overtaking corners, probably Tarzan at Zanvoort for open wheel cars (yes, that is the old Dutch GP track: no, the layout of most of the circuit is very different to when it was on the callender) or the first hairpin turn at Rockingham for touring cars (the UK Rockingham, on the roval layout).
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Couple of quick clarifications:
1) Yes I accidentally put a picture of Turns 1/2 instead of Spoon. Oops, my error!
2) When I say "downforce" in referring to going through dips/crests, I mean a general downforce not an aerodynamic downforce. So I'm talking about a force acting downwards on the car. In this case, it's a mechanical downforce.
(probably shouldn't have said 'downforce')
It is more of a downward inertial force, but point given...
The "downforce" you are referring to with elevation change is often talked about as weight on the tire contact patch. The more "weight" the more grip; the less weight the less grip. That is why cars spin at the top of Eau Rouge where there is less weight on the tire contact patch instead of at the bottom of those turns.
(Aero downforce also increases the weight on the tires.)
You meant gravity force?
Well it's not strictly weight as weight is a force due to the acceleration under gravity and this inertial force is due to position-based vertical acceleration, so I wouldn't want to inaccurately call it weight. I say this as someone who inaccurately called it 'downforce' instead of a 'downward force'. :)
At the beginning I was like dude they're corners what's interesting about that?
I seriously wasn't expect to learn this much from this. Great video as always
Jeremias Pereyra same here was very curious what could be said about them other than describing an apex as the fastest line through like we’ve all seen 100 times.
This channel is literally "GOLD" for F1 fans and people new to the sport. Good job mate, subscribed.
im learning everything i know about f1 through this guy
I’ve just gotten into F1 (mainly because I’m stuck at home because school is cancelled😂) and this channel is teaching me a ton of stuff thats super interesting cause I know practically nothing about any Motorsport
These videos are so useful. You've filled a niche gap where no one else does this kind of video at this high a quality. Great stuff!!
Visually speaking, this was entertaining to watch while at the same time easily understanding the varieties of corners. You could say that you really shouldn't take them for granted!
"Literally could be any corner, who even cares?" Really got me. Sochi was the most boring 2017 race. Only had one overtake
European GP, Valencia 2009?
I dont think someone could entretain me as much as you do on topic I already know
maaan, every time I watch one of your videos I go into the video thinking "well I'm not sure theirs going to be anything in this video I haven't heard somewhere before" and every time either you do manage to get some info across that is new to me or at least you manage to put all the info together so well that it sort of adds a new dimension of understanding even if one knew about all the various pieces already.
Really really good job! Thanks a lot.
Castle Section at Baku, Mugello Final Corner (forgot the name), Tabac-to-pool sequence at Monaco, Suzuka's Spoon and 130R, and Eau Rouge at Spa.
I appreciate your effort, sir. *Really* appreciate it. Who knew that corners take different shapes and quirks.
Muhammad Akmal Basyha Aziz I like the Mugello callout and would like to add the original Barcelona Catalunya last corner before they dumb chicane!
And I never saw it but the last corner of the original F1 track we race at in Mexico sounded wild!
4 years have passed, but it's called "Bucine" after the name of a town near the track. lol
The whole of Bathurst has amazing corners
Bahrain, the corner before the 2. DRS zone (counter straight), it's seriously one of the hardest corners in my opinion, because it is:
- downhill
- decreasing radius
- and also preluded by an opposite corner
Never knew f1 corners could be so complex
The drivers don't really think about if the corner is off-camber or on-camber, but they do take it into consideration when they adjust the setup of the car, so yes and no. They are complex and through out a whole track you have a lot of different corners that you have to take in consideration and have to do sacrificing in one corner to get the winnings in another in the setup, but driving them is just like second nature.
Never realised that there were soo many dynamics just for a turn.
Amazing Video.
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@@kinslayergaming3159 ah where that guy crashed that car. got it!
This is so informative for anyone, whether new to f1 or watching every race session in the season. Thanks so much for these!
Holy shit, somebody actually wrote “whether” properly for once.
Well, my cop-out answer would be the entire Nordschleife. It has everything you talked about here - changing radiuses, elevation, camber, and even difficult/changing sight lines to worry about, etc. If one would want to talk about character and interpretation/challenge, that conversation begins with the classic Nurburgring, imho
Outside of F1, the Porsche Curves at the Circuit de la Sarthe are up there. Difficult, difficult series that I only truly appreciated after attempting to drive them in simulators. You always feel like you can make up more time in them; you never quite get through them absolutely perfectly (again, interpretation/room for error). And they can be so incredibly fast, too.
I agree on the green hell but i would add corners 1 and 2 at suzuka in the right car going full blast in is a art of its own
Laguna seca corkscrew is best corner.
nah man, dat shit scary
every driver would say eau rouge is better
"When entering the corner, aim for the bush and realize it's the top of a tree midway through."
The dipper @ Mt panorama!
When I saw that corner on Top Gear I was like "yeah, that's pretty steep", then when I actually drove on Laguna Seca in a video game, I was like "Holy Fuck, it's like a sheer drop". Can't imagine what it's like in person, I'm guessing the release of fecal matter is involved in taking that turn irl.
I love the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca, and the following late apex corner.
I’m unsure about real life, but especially in Gran Turismo it feels orgasmic when you absolutely nail the corner.
watching 6:15 part is difficult now. Brings back painful memories. RIP AH
Seriously I bloody love this channel. Do a single video on each curve, types of curve, each track, their timelines and famous accidents or bst laps on them. I will watch it, I will watch them all.
Also this will be an encyclopedia for more F1 fans for years to come. Amazing stuff man.
So simple, yet so perfect 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for the video about the wiggly bits in between straights
Hey Chain Bear F1! Thank for making me understand A LOT more in F1. When I first saw your channel and saw what you did I thought “What Can he do to make me understand F1?” I was wrong. Thanks for being one of the best mistakes of my life
Mt Panroma, Bathurst has some of the most lurid examples of elevation change affecting a race car. A whole sector of the circuit includes turns that go light and try to put the car into the concrete wall backwards and some others that load the car so heavily that power steering systems can very well fail, feeding you into the concrete fences forwards. It's a great example of what you talked about in this video.
4 years late. But channel is great. Was watching f1 since 2016 and thought I wont learn anything. Learned more than I knew already
My favourite corner is defintly Scheivlak at Zandvoort, fast downhill right hander with a crest before it, never disapoints. Also the mastersbocht-renaultbocht sequenze at Zandvoort is very tricky. The Ramshoek at Assen is also a great corner. Not to forget the great corners Brands Hatch and the nordschleife have
Just checked the videos. It's a huge car killer
Ivan Ivanov yeah they are, you can really see who are the commited drivers in those corners, espescially the exit of the mastersbocht and the exit of thr ramshoek are good for that
I am a new fan to F1 (3rd year watching), your videos have GREATLY help my understanding of the basics and nuances of the sport! I am extremely impressed with you ability to explain the forces, strategies and techniques of the sport in such a simple way and still impart the in-depth details that matter! Thank you so much for this series!
6:10 That turn always gets me in F1 games.
I was just meandering my way around the Spa circuit in codemasters F1 game, and found myself daunted with all those types of corners and elevations changes.. I knew there would be a youtube video about corners and lo! Great info @chainbearf1 you're making it easier to understand and experience F1 ! Thanks
Just wanted to say that your videos are getting so much better so quickly while maintaining the quite unique style. I like them a lot.
The Old Hairpin at Donington Park which requires some excellent driving especially when under pressure following Craner Curves! Off-camber, downhill and mistakes cost a lot of time going back up the hill! Excellent corner and very entertaining to watch!
the visuals just keep getting better! love it dude! keep it up!
"The wiggly bits" made me laugh. Keep up the good work!
Really amazing videos!! Since I began watching your channel, I have learned a lot about F1! Keep it up
For me the best complex of corners is at Bathurst across the top, from the end of mountain straight to exiting forests elbow. It has everything you talked about in the video in regards to making an interesting corner, plus the added difficulty of many of the corners being blind. And it doesn’t end there, the way the exit of one corner impacts the following producing great flow and it has great risk return.
On sim racing, one of the corners I love the most is the corkscrew corner at leguna, it so unique and I would be terrified to drive it in a real car due to the blind entry.
Another nice video ! Keep your good work . It is nice to know more about F1 and motorsport generally . Your videos are simple and easy to understand .
All the corners at Bathurst ❤️
Oh wow, great map!
I agree with you, that whole track is a blast... However, my favourite turn on it is definitely The Cutting.
We only could debate about Murray´s, it is really the only corner at Bathurst that has noting special about it i´d say.
People do not seem to be around racing other than TV nowadays. Thanks for explaining. I learned as a young man by helping on cars and later racing and I still
Find your material very interesting.
top notch stuff mate. i've always really liked trying to figure out the characteristics of corners myself, but could never quite figure out why i hate corners like 1-4 in shanghai, and love corners 11-12 in australia and eau rouge in a way that makes sense on paper, but now i do! cheers mate, keep up the great work.
Great video, great drawings. Loved as always
This guy needs to be more popular! Awesome stuff, thanks :)
Brilliant video, as always! You make the off-season a bit more bearable :)
Love it, a very basic topic that often isn't explained well enough condensed to the main factor.
I am just a little surprised you haven't mentioned bumps in a turn as they are most noticably changing the approach of drivers in turns. But maybe we'll see that mentioned in another video.
Suzuka's Spoon and 130R, and Eau Rouge at Spa are one of them. Love your content, now I understand a great deal about F1. Keep it up!
Being primarily for motorbikes, Cadwell Park has a grand variety of corners which includes many, if not all the elements you have described.
In order.
Coppice, fast LH rising as you go through the turn
Charlie’s, double apex over a brow (blind) with a small but noticeable dip on the exit.
Park. Simple, flat constant radius RH
Chris Curve. Increasing radius RH leading to
The Gooseneck. Fast right left combination with changing cambers changing from flat to downhill.
Mansfield. Steep downhill approach to LH slight off camber.
Chicane... yuck
The mountain. Left/Right combo with changing radius and steep... Best you watch videos..
Hall bends. Right, Left, Right, Left with varying cambers and small changes in elevation. Love it.
Hairpin.
Barn. Medium fast RH blind entry to off camber exit.
Are you guys familiar with Mid-Field Raceway on Gran Turismo. I know its a fictional track but what intriguing is the continuous right hander following the main straight, the first kink is on-camber but the track width narrows from entry to exit (making knowing when to brake imperative to overall lap time) , this is all followed by a faster more obtuse right hander , the trick however is that the apex is normally shrouded by tree shade , nailing the apex is quite satisfying at race speed, getting it wrong sends you into a curb closely neighbored by a barrier on the outermost left hand side.
Great video as usual, keep them coming!
You explain so good. Insane how much you know about this . The movie makes it even more easy to understand
Excellent video again. It is great that you are back, doing regular videos. I thought all that potential was lost when i didn't see a video for ages. Keep up the good work man! :D
Only chain bear could make an explanation of corners interesting haha
Great video. Istanbul Park turn 8 is wonderful.. turn 2-3 at the hungaroring usually catches someone out.
Awesome video man, you can really get the image of how many accidents happen in f1, getting down to the "bone". Keep it coming
I love corners 6 (Pegaso) and 10, 11 (Bugatti) on the Jarama Spain, it makes it extra special too since I live around 2km away from it and hear the rawr of the cars when I am standing outside!!
Great video, pls analyse some cool corners in another video, that would be epic!!
You deserve a lot more media attention you put so much work in each of your videos. Its just amazing!❤
Laguna Seca corkscrew is one of the best, but my favourite is Casanova in Mugello, It's just beautiful.
One of my favorite corners outside of F1 is turn 8 on Laguna Seca (also called corkscrew)
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Excellent video!! Appreciate the skill required by drivers at this level even more....not to mention the complexity of designing these tracks.
And the faster the car goes the bigger are effects of dips and crests! :O you've really made me appreciate racing for all the math and physics behind it
Nice to understand off-camber and on-camber.. awesome.. keep up the good work
Awesome content. Now I know more about corners.
you were first just helping me with understanding f1 now you are helping me understand geometry
Wait til next week where you'll get a brief glimpse at some calculus!
Mosport, outside of Toronto, Canada has two very challenging corners. The high speed Corner 2 arrives after a steep downhill and sweeps left seemingly off-camber. Many cars slide off there onto the necessarily huge run-off area. Corner 5A arrives after a heavy compression and requires turning right just as the suspension is rebounding. Denny Hulme, holding a huge lead, crashed there in his Can-Am McLaren on the penultimate lap. He muscled a destroyed car, body work shattered, front suspension broken, flat tires shuddering and smoking, through the final one and 1/2 laps and won the race. When asked what it was like to drive the demolished car at speed, he said, "Made the steering a bit heavy".
Excellent video as always! Take a look at ‘The Dipper’ sections in to ‘forest elbow’ at Mount Panorama, love that circuit.
DICE media group Great callout!
Actually everything except the first and last corner at that track are spectacular !!
Technicalities simplified..... Outstanding 👍
GREAT video man, thanks for making and posting!
Thus the Ring earns its respect by being chock full of dips, crests, elevation changes, brows, on- and off-camber, not to mention varying surfaces.
I'm a simple man. I see an upload and automatically click, watch and like. Great videos
Loved it. Again. Quickly becoming my favorite channel. Can't wait for the next one :D
It has such a 90's feel to it and its awesome. Very informative. It would be nice to see you do a racing etiquette video.
As for your question about cool corners, check out McPhillamy Park at Bathurst. A fast, blind, left hander over a crest with a wall on the inside and some well traveled dirt on the outside. You're pretty much a passenger through there.
I love turn 3 at Austria. Not a lot of corners on that track I guess, and I mainly know it from driving games, but the downhill run in at the end of a straight and relatively tight turn-in mean there's a lot of work can be done in the braking zone, but then the increasing radius letting you just feed the power in and let the car drag itself back to the outside, just in time for that horrible turn 4. It's such a nice feeling when I hook it up just right.
I only play Real racing 3 on my phone and you really made me understand why my "ariel" keeps slipping in au rouge it's really good to know the physics and how everything goes 😍😍😍 keep up the good work I really love your channel
The corkscrew at Laguna Seca is an interesting corner.
Aski Check the roller coaster at Virginia International, and the Dipper at Bathurst both have a very similar vibe to the corkscrew. I love the corkscrew too. I always think of the pass by Zenardi when I see it.
Road America turn 5, COTA turn 1, the cork screw at Laguna Seca, turn 3 and 4 of Indianapolis infield circuit and The fountain at long beach are some more crazy corners
Something more to add about the elevation:
If the whole corner is on a downhill section , more of the cars weight will be on the front , making it oversteer. If the corner is uphill , the car will tend to understeer through the corner.
But because of the downforce to weight ratio of F1 cars , this will not be such a problem.
The whole section between the Monutain Straight and the Conrod Straight at Bathurst, when you get it right in a game it feels so rewarding
My favorite corner is the Corkscrew at Mazda Leguna circuit.
You got a massive crest and massive dip in split second with very tight turns in the middle.
May you live long ChainBearF1, so that you could shed lights on F1. When a 14-15 year old comes to watch races with me, I suggest your videos to him to know more about F1.
Mount Panorama circuit of Bathurst. A series of twists going downhill into the main straight. Pure pleasure
Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant.
I enjoy going through the second chicane at Monaco without braking and barely touching the outer wall everytime. Keep up the good work.
Its true that multi-radius corners are more interesting, but to me its the combination that makes it good. Some of the nicest parts are often just good combinations of simple corners, like the becketts on silverstone.
Good point! I'll be looking (sort of) at sequences in next week's video
turns 8 and the carousel at Road America are my favorite corners I've seen in person
Thanks for the education. Keep it up - going on a binge on your channel
MAN!!!! Your channel is the best. You ought to know that, right?
Redgate - Hollywood - Craner Curves - Old Hairpin. Probably the best sequence of corners in the world.
Youre videos are are really well done, my favourtie courner is 4,5 and 6 at Spielberg
Dear Chain Bear F1, I honestly have no words. Your videos are insanely engaging and interesting. Your animations are 100% awesome, how do you do it?! Keep it up!
Kind Regards,
Speed
P.s; you wouldn’t happen to make a GT Sport Video?
6:15 Refer WTF1's video on Eau Rouge and Raidillon.
These videos never get old
My favourite corner, probably a bit biased as it's my nearest race track and host Grands Prix until 1986, is Paddock Hill bend at Brands Hatch. A very fast, off camber, steeply down hill right hander, which causes the car to bottom as it reaches the bottom of the dip before the slight climb to Druids hairpin. Having driven it myself, much more so than normal, you have to anticipate the apex way in advance as the off camber nature causes understeer. And once you get too wide, you're off. I used the Marshall's post before Paddock Hill as my reference braking point
wonderful to have you back making videos!
I love the first hairpin and especially the S's at COTA.
The track at Bathurst (Mt Panorama) in Australia has a wonderful selection of tricky corners, and they have driven a F1 car around it (although never raced)
Check out how the local touring cars (V8 Supercars) as well as GT cars deal with it. This track produces some very interesting racing.
Back in the 70's and 80's there was one corner, the dipper, that would cause cars to three wheel though the apex because of the rapid elevation and camber change - over the years it has been smoothed and flattened, meaning the cars no longer carry a wheel in the air for anywhere near as long.
The Caltex Chase is an interesting section as well, as you take the right hander at full speed, then try and settle the car rapidly so you can brake down to the third gear lefthander. Entry speeds are generally from top speed (around 300km/h in the V8 Supercars)
This chicane was added because of the rising top speeds and the need to get cars slowed safely for the second gear left hander leading to the very short start/finish straight.
love the videos! and i love the foro sol corners in the mexican GP (maybe im bias as im mexican) mostly because of the element of being close to the track as the cars go by underneath rather than a technical aspect of the corners
Turns 4 and 5, as well as 15 at Portimao are really fun, the first set being challenging decreasing radius, uphill and even a little off camber, while the latter is a huge sweeping right-hander that lets you carry a lot of speed onto the front straight.
The Esses at VIR are also really fun.
I am enjoying your uploads so much! Thank you!
For just weird cornerns, the fountain at Long Beach (it is a fountain with a small hedge rather then a barrier). For overtaking corners, probably Tarzan at Zanvoort for open wheel cars (yes, that is the old Dutch GP track: no, the layout of most of the circuit is very different to when it was on the callender) or the first hairpin turn at Rockingham for touring cars (the UK Rockingham, on the roval layout).