Thank you so much for this video. I started out pinning Best SFIC, and when the day came I had to pin up a Corbin style LFIC (Emhart high security, to be completely honest), the minus and plus pins really confused me, because I didn't know the "math" scale that it was based on. This is such a great help.
Not sure what all the negativity is about in the comments, but thanks for this video explaining the pinning chart. Both the chart and your explanation were helpful to me. I just acquired a complete PK-1070 pin kit, and am trying to teach myself their LFIC. I'd love to see that follow up video on pinning Corbin Russwin if you ever get around to it.
Another way that is similar to your way is to fill in the top pin numbers first from the control key. Then do one of two thing to complete the rest of the pin boxes: 1. Start at the bottom and master pins just like you did. But then, take the top pin number, subtract the master pin, then from that subtract the bottom pin, just moving down the column, and write that total as the buildup. For example, say the control/top pin is 5 and we have 4 as master and 2 as bottom pins. 5-4=1. Then, 1-2=-1. So -1 goes for that buildup box. 2. When you write the smallest bitting in the line for the bottom pin, then write the other key’s bitting for that chamber below it, making a new row underneath the existing chart. This new row makes it easy to subtract the two to get the master pin, since both numbers are right there. Then, subtract the top pin from that new line below the chart, and write that in the build up box for that chamber. This way it is also easier to check the math if something goes wrong, since you can “see” both key bittings and rework the column math.
How does one do it for just a an SKD? Use the same idea with the control and Master key where the 1-3 and 6th numbers are the same and the only number would change is the 4th and 5th?
1 and 6, possibly 7 if present, stay the same with the control and the operating key. The math is the same for the control chambers, easier actually, because your plug total is just one number instead of the addition of two (bottom plus master).
@@Thethreetumblers Thank you, I was wondering why my first try didn't work then I remembered I used a totally different number for the operating key instead of the same numbers as the control key with the exception of 4th and 5th numbers.
This is very informative but Im not sure how you pin a negative number? I have ZERO LFIC cores on campus and I am being forced to use one and I am still confused on how to pin the cylinder. I have a master key I want to use but can use any change and control key. Can you help me out? I also do not have a .003 pinning kit, I have 5 thou pinning kits. Is this possible for me?
A universal kit won't work, unfortunately. You would need a dedicated pin kit for Corbin Russwin or, at the very least, the pin segments required for the Class/Depth system. Here is a link to all of the available Corbin Russwin Class/Depth pinning information: www.lockreference.com/items/key-bitting-specifications/?portfolioCats=8 Once you find out what you have, you can determine what you'll need in terms of pins.
Just pined one up the other day. I did it the hard way because I didn't know what the numbers equal to in thousands. I only have a universal pin kit. All I knew is the total pin stack had to equal .515 according to the page I found. Do you know where I can find what the numbers + and - equal to in thousands ? thanks buddy, great video. Glad to see your still uploading!
Rookie Lock Thanks. Two sources for the info you’re looking for. First is the Corbin Russwin Cylinder Manual: www.lockreference.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Corbin-Russwin-Cylinder-Manual.pdf Second, if you want them separately, with additional info, we’ve made key bitting specifications for all systems/classes: www.lockreference.com/items/key-bitting-specifications/?portfolioCats=8 Hope that helps.
If you were in the driver's seat (e.g. actually knew how to do this) you could do it at your own speed. You're here for a reason - you don't/didn't know how to do this. I am teaching, for free. Get off of your high horse.
@@Thethreetumblers I don't have a horse but I was at work and needed to finish the job. Just take into consideration what the title of your video is and what your audiences expectations are. Maybe throw in some timestamps so people can jump to the part they need. Or make 2 videos, one could be strictly how to do the pinning chart and only be a few minutes and then have an advanced part 2 if people want to know more they can watch it. But from what I remember of this video is the information was scattered throughout the 20 min. and I went somewhere else to get what I needed. Just some food for thought, I hope to see more videos from you in the future. Good luck
Kolo Mark The video is meant to teach YOU how to create Corbin Russwin LFIC pinning charts in seconds, it’s not literally showing you, in seconds, how to create a Corbin Russwin LFIC pinning chart. Sorry it didn’t meet your expectations.
Thank you so much for this video. I started out pinning Best SFIC, and when the day came I had to pin up a Corbin style LFIC (Emhart high security, to be completely honest), the minus and plus pins really confused me, because I didn't know the "math" scale that it was based on. This is such a great help.
Excellent video and responses to questions. If I could give you a double thumbs up, I would!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Not sure what all the negativity is about in the comments, but thanks for this video explaining the pinning chart. Both the chart and your explanation were helpful to me. I just acquired a complete PK-1070 pin kit, and am trying to teach myself their LFIC. I'd love to see that follow up video on pinning Corbin Russwin if you ever get around to it.
Another way that is similar to your way is to fill in the top pin numbers first from the control key. Then do one of two thing to complete the rest of the pin boxes:
1. Start at the bottom and master pins just like you did. But then, take the top pin number, subtract the master pin, then from that subtract the bottom pin, just moving down the column, and write that total as the buildup. For example, say the control/top pin is 5 and we have 4 as master and 2 as bottom pins. 5-4=1. Then, 1-2=-1. So -1 goes for that buildup box.
2. When you write the smallest bitting in the line for the bottom pin, then write the other key’s bitting for that chamber below it, making a new row underneath the existing chart. This new row makes it easy to subtract the two to get the master pin, since both numbers are right there. Then, subtract the top pin from that new line below the chart, and write that in the build up box for that chamber. This way it is also easier to check the math if something goes wrong, since you can “see” both key bittings and rework the column math.
Thanks Great Video Presentation Helping New Peoples is Helping to The God
Hope you’ll video pinning the cylinder soon, I haven’t done one in years and look forward to the refresher. Great info.
How does one do it for just a an SKD?
Use the same idea with the control and Master key where the 1-3 and 6th numbers are the same and the only number would change is the 4th and 5th?
1 and 6, possibly 7 if present, stay the same with the control and the operating key. The math is the same for the control chambers, easier actually, because your plug total is just one number instead of the addition of two (bottom plus master).
@@Thethreetumblers Thank you, I was wondering why my first try didn't work then I remembered I used a totally different number for the operating key instead of the same numbers as the control key with the exception of 4th and 5th numbers.
I have a Corbin unit lock that is 0 bitted. What cuts would I have to put in the 2-5 spacings to make it work as a control key? Thanks in advance.
Thanks man
This is very informative but Im not sure how you pin a negative number? I have ZERO LFIC cores on campus and I am being forced to use one and I am still confused on how to pin the cylinder. I have a master key I want to use but can use any change and control key. Can you help me out? I also do not have a .003 pinning kit, I have 5 thou pinning kits. Is this possible for me?
A universal kit won't work, unfortunately. You would need a dedicated pin kit for Corbin Russwin or, at the very least, the pin segments required for the Class/Depth system. Here is a link to all of the available Corbin Russwin Class/Depth pinning information: www.lockreference.com/items/key-bitting-specifications/?portfolioCats=8 Once you find out what you have, you can determine what you'll need in terms of pins.
Just pined one up the other day. I did it the hard way because I didn't know what the numbers equal to in thousands. I only have a universal pin kit. All I knew is the total pin stack had to equal .515 according to the page I found. Do you know where I can find what the numbers + and - equal to in thousands ? thanks buddy, great video. Glad to see your still uploading!
Rookie Lock Thanks. Two sources for the info you’re looking for.
First is the Corbin Russwin Cylinder Manual: www.lockreference.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Corbin-Russwin-Cylinder-Manual.pdf
Second, if you want them separately, with additional info, we’ve made key bitting specifications for all systems/classes:
www.lockreference.com/items/key-bitting-specifications/?portfolioCats=8
Hope that helps.
Not much Corbin Russwin here.
Lifesaver!
10 minutes in and you have shown nothing
Go watch another video then.
Bro please get to it
If you were in the driver's seat (e.g. actually knew how to do this) you could do it at your own speed. You're here for a reason - you don't/didn't know how to do this. I am teaching, for free. Get off of your high horse.
@@Thethreetumblers I don't have a horse but I was at work and needed to finish the job. Just take into consideration what the title of your video is and what your audiences expectations are. Maybe throw in some timestamps so people can jump to the part they need. Or make 2 videos, one could be strictly how to do the pinning chart and only be a few minutes and then have an advanced part 2 if people want to know more they can watch it. But from what I remember of this video is the information was scattered throughout the 20 min. and I went somewhere else to get what I needed. Just some food for thought, I hope to see more videos from you in the future. Good luck
Kolo Mark The video is meant to teach YOU how to create Corbin Russwin LFIC pinning charts in seconds, it’s not literally showing you, in seconds, how to create a Corbin Russwin LFIC pinning chart. Sorry it didn’t meet your expectations.
can you decipher this Yale and show me how you did it.
Control 2338354
Master 2332354
Change 2332330
Top pin ?
Master Pin ?
Bottom pin ?
Yale's LFIC format uses special control key blanks. No seperate shearlines or math. Check my channel, I've got a video breaking them down.