Locksmith Tip: How to Make a LFIC Control Key
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This Locksmith Tip will help you if you are working on LFIC locks. Every locksmith will encounter LFIC cores at some point and you want to be prepared! We hope you find this LFIC locksmith tip helpful!,
Have you ever been on the job and didn't have a control key? PJ gives a brief overview of LFIC cores and teaches viewers how to easily make a temporary control key so you can get the cylinder out and get the job done!
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This tip was right on the money. Thanks. Just to add a bit more detail, the exact measurement of the control tip is a Schlage #6 cut. So as long as you don’t go past that, you’re good.
Thanks for helping out the trade.
🙌-PJ
PJ - I just saw this video. Thanks for the information. You're making life easier for a lot of working locksmiths.
Thanks Peter -PJ
This is extremely good info. I’ve attempted this before but failed and had to get a control key.
I like the trick with the key spacing, thank you for sharing your knowledge. It is extremely useful in a pinch.
Thanks Turn-a-Key Locksmith! -PJ
Nice!!!!!!
This would be a long shot for you to answer this question. I tried using your method for the 6 pin on one of the lock and it worked really well. However, I have trouble making a control key for a different 5 pin within a 6 pin core lock. I tried using a SC4 key for the 5 pin lock because I know by using the SC1 key it would not reach the control pin.
Do you know how I can remove a 6 pin LFIC core in a 5 pin lock??? Hope you can answer this, Thanks.
Only need control keys for removing Schlage LFIC cylinders. Just pick the control pin from back of the cylinder depress the pin with your finger and hold it in while installing it. Only cut the control blank when it needs to be removed. Save alot of $ control blanks especially Primus.
Because the bottom of the keyway is open you don't have to cut back the bottom shoulder stop. But, a neat idea all the same. I use my HPC codemax set the cutter to number six depth and ease it into the blank then take a couple swipes with a sharp file on the top shoulder. Then your done.
Absolutely great learning video.😎
Thanks!- PJ
Great tip and have used it on a cylinder here in my home shop, I love these quick little tips, They really help…..
I'm new to lfic and just interested from a locksport view. Am I to understand from your video that most lfic cores can be removed by lightly modding a matching keyblank that could be done by hand with a file? Very much like using a bypass tool and essentially giving you access to the acuator at the back. If this is the case, I'm not sure I'd want to secure anything with an lfic! 😁👍🏻
Alright Dmac love your videos (I've started making a challenge lock after watching your 'how to' vid. But yes, you could basically file the cut-away on the fly (if you had the bitting). Seems dodgy to me, id also give them a miss🖒
if its schlage lfic you can do this, but with best/ falcon the core keys are different bittings than the operating key
good job
This is not going to work with a Primus LFIC -- Might work with Everest LFIC
So what does work?
@@WestFloridaLocks Difficult because of the Primus side bitting that must be in the same location (i.e., you cannot move the Primus key forward [further into the lock] by cutting back the shoulder because the finger pin milling will not line up with the finger pins anymore). If you have the Mortise body itself, you can drill a hole to activate the LFIC retaining pin to be able to remove the LFIC core from the Mortise body. I believe there are some RUclips videos on how that is done.
Will this work with the Schlage Everest also? #LOCKBOSS
You can actually use this trick with the jet c and e primus blanks before you cut the side milling.
Don’t you sell an actual LFIC control key?
Question: vid shows a picture of a control key with no bitting, just the end is cut for the control pin. You show using a depth key and then actually cut the key blank for all of the bittings along with the end cut to make the control. Why not just cut the [control] end of a blank? Please explain.
because you still need to turn the key to unlock position, just a blank with the top sut is not going to let the key turn in the cylinder
Really helpful. Thanks.
I bought a lot of used locks on eBay and a few of them were this kind. Had no clue why I couldn’t get the core out. I’ll probably go ahead and order a control key, but I wouldn’t have figured out what I was dealing with if it weren’t for this video.
Thanks.
Steve, glad the video helped! -PJ
Enjoy how you can explain stuff yet talk like the people you're talking to are not stupid. #Billingslocksmith
Thanks -PJ
Thanks Great Video Presentation
Thx for the video. Is an actual control key physically longer? I would think moving the shoulder could impact the operation of the key, or are you just concerned with hitting control. Is there a technical drawing of the control key or information on space and depth?
Gumby, Yes, the control key is physically longer. With this example I was only concred with hitting the control to get the cylinder out, at that point I would recycle the key. Space & Depth is the same as a normal key, the only difference is the tip.
@@clksupplies thx do much. I have some cores coming to me with 1 control key. Do you carry the Schlage G Keyway blanks? I did not see it on your site.
Thats a great tip. #Lockboss
Oh man, i forgot about this video. I needed this advice today. I had a job that manger said needed to rekey 3 doors. When I got there it was a Schalge Large Format cylinder. The restaurant didn't have the control key. Bummer. Then manager told me that he actually only needed to make more key copies that he didn't really needed to be rekeyed 😶 . But I wish I would have remembered about this video. #LockBoss
Hopefully this helped"...Understatement for sure! I have learned so much from this channel thanks for all the info over the years. (#Lockboss 2 yrs late)
Will that control key also do the smaller cores like you had in the video for a hager lock😊
It will not -PJ
Interesting material, I've never encountered LFIC, but deal with SFIC mainly. Good to know... #Lockboss
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Great, thanks, P.J. !
Thanks Jim - PJ
Nice work.
#Lockboss.
Awesome
Nice
🙌
Great idea. Thanks for sharing! #lockboss
I am dealing with the smaller interchangeable cores. And the problem is, I do not have access to ANY keys. When the building was originally put up, all the keys were put in a big pile and subsequently lost. We now want to change or rekey the locks but how do we do this with out a control or working key?
Hi Bruce, I just made a video on how to figure out what the control key is on SFIC. It should be out in a week or so! -PJ
Thank you for the tips PJ! You're the man! #Lockboss
Great video! Good information PJ! Thank you! #Lockboss
Amazing I watch this video two months ago and I don’t really understand it and today I needed to work on this locks and this with your help me get the job done thanks PJ #lockboss
Very cool!!! -PJ
Thanks for the valuable technique! I assume that you'll need to repeat the processl after rekeying and use a new temporary control key to put the core back?
Yes!-PJ
That was a great video. I'm going to order a lock and key and try it out. Growing my list of new skills to try out. Going check out some videos.
Juniel, Awesome! Thanks for watching!-PJ
Good information, thank you 😊
Very good never thought it would work #Lockboss
Had to make one on a job a while back,#lockboss
How do this on a Sargent lfic
done it!
Awesome!
love the lfic format #lockboss
Really helpful thank you!
Awesome... Thanks!
Spot on great tip #lockboss
Great idea.
#LOCKBOSS
Great video !
PJ does this also work on SFIC as well ?
It does not-PJ
EXTREMELY Helpful! Thank you, PJ!
Glad it was helpful! -PJ
Great instructional video! #lockboss
Glad you enjoyed it! -PJ
You are the best!