Definitely agree, wouldn't have "saved" the film in my opinion (the plot relies too much on characters making appallingly bad decisions) but at least it would have improved it and made some character's death more meaningful.
Flicks And The City alien covenant is a overall a disappointment film, too even go the more alien route instead of a new film is a waste opportunity for something more interesting
Flicks And The City / Jan, wasn't sure if I was supposed to put post here to be eligible for your wonderful gift package so apologies for posting this twice! Really enjoyed your video! I agree that there were several scenes that I wished they'd left in for the very reasons you stated. It will be interesting to see if they'll be put back in for a special edition/director's cut when the blueray version comes out! Hopefully this will be the case, and makes sense that they would do it that way. Also would have been nice to see the Shaw/David scenes as well! Just my thoughts! lol Thanks again for sharing this awesome video! Lady Anne ^^Ö^^
I'd love to get one of those shirts with the xenomorph face on the chest! I have a lot of different horror movie t-shirts and Giger's Alien is one movie monster I still don't have on a t-shirt yet. Please help make this lifelong wish of mine come true, Flicks and the City! I'll be your best friend! };)~
Actually, the way it was released as a prologue promo makes it better and builds some hype. It would look pretty stupid if we witnessed the last supper when they go to sleep and then movie jump cuts back to them waking up 5 minutes later. That small time between this prologue scene and the actual release of the movie help it feel more natural. And also that fake stomach ache self-irony joke wouldn't even work in the actual movie because we know exactly when we get to alien infestation.
KaloTube we have never seen her dying. How can we say that her death was lame? We don't even know if she was killed by David, crash, or infection from Prometheus (trylobite 'birth' could've not been the end of her black goo related problems).
Mateusz Różnowski When he wanted to kill Daniels, he said, he'll do to her what he did to Shaw. Which screws up that neat prologue. And the fact she probably never met the engineers.
Scott has mentioned that one of the sequels he wants to make will be a prequel to Covenant that ties prometheus them together by exploring the Shaw storyline. Though I don't believe that happens. Initially he said that the Prometheus sequels were going to drift further from the Alien universe and that didn't happen.
Walter seemed more stable than Ash. Wouldn't Ash be superior to both David & Walter? Ash probably hasn't even been assembled yet. This film is set 18 years before Alien
The only scene that was actually meant to be in the film, was the prologue with Shaw and David. From what I've heard, it was cut after a test screening. The Last Supper and She Won't Go Quietly videos were never meant to be part of the film, but to serve as viral marketing materials.
A2DM: So I guess Ridley Scott hates us now or something? Or was there studio interference? I can't believe that the theater version of this movie is what Scott would have wanted. You don't get to know the crew at all so when they start dying you couldn't care less.
The film should have been everything that happened between promethius and Covenant. They fucked up skimming over Shaw's death her relationship with David. Wiping out the engineers In a 2 min flashback seemed pretty stupid as well. I was well disappointed as they had so many good ideas to run. With from promethius
I'm not sure about those engineers they seemed pretty low-tech. I understand it's supposed to be their homeworld but that part just kind of doesn't make sense to me
That opening scene with the crew was never intended to be in the movie it was actually directed by Ridley Scott's son only to be used as a viral video.
Conner Wiltshire i think it would have helped the movie though. i liked the film but it felt rushed at times and this could have worked to develop the characters a little more
Absolutley, the movie seemed so rushed and so many things happening so fast. I really felt disappointed after the screening and I'm a big fan of Scott. I hope there's a director's cut for this.
Punisher Armory. I don't think it would have hurt to have the omitted scenes be part of the feature, but I also think most of us true fans had watched the omitted scenes multiple times before the movie opened in theatres yesterday (05.19.2017). In some ways I thought it a bit clever by Scott to do things the way they were done as all of us Alien nuts had already watched the omitted scenes so we knew some of the "back story" before the movie started and non-Alien nuts never really missed the scenes they didn't know about.
Scott should pass the torch hes out of touch. The poor CG, Left more questions, The movie needed the omitted prologe with David and shaw...As much as it hurts me to say the movie $%&! the bed.
i dont think he necessarily is out of touch, i just think he's trying to expand the universe too rapidly and cramming a bunch story into this and prometheus. he said he doesn't want there to be as big of a time gap between alien films anymore so hopefully this will help him better pace the movies.
Here's the thing. The trailers were structured and paced in such different ways that I was truly hyped about the movie believing that Mr Scott had created the perfect Alien film. From the spooky Nature Boy cover to the bizarre Country Roads the trailers were genuinely brilliant at their job. Seeding my anticipation with high hopes of drama and mystery and tension. The interview in which Mr Scott spoke of the challenge of scaring the shit out of people had me worried about seeing the film thinking it might be too much for my heart to take. Alas the film was not like the trailers. It looked amazing and sounded fantastic but it just didn't work as a journey. If it was a rollercoaster then the promise of thrilling drops and turns were found to be straights and minor dips with the breaks on. I am hopeful that there is an alternative edit that with new eyes can save this movie from the disappointing theatrical release. The promise is all there but when I hear phrases about keeping things at set lengths I get annoyed. We are not babies. Film is an art form and shouldn't pander to conformity. A story takes as long as it takes to unravel as does a song and this film I'm certain would bask in glory in it's full length 12" dance edit. Rock on Ridley. Please Please Me.
"A story takes as long as it takes to unravel ..." Studios don't think like that alas. They write scripts in 3 acts, and there has to be some action written in every 10 - 15 minutes to keep the audience interested (their view, not mine). Something has to happen to the character(s) near the end of the first act...It's a formula they cannot deviate from. Hence so many flops!
it will all be shown in DVD.. thats how they make money left out all the important stuff on the big screen and save them in a little disk to rip you off for another $49,99
Loved the movie. Best scene was 100% when David was revealed with long, overgrown hair and a hood covering his face. So cool! Loved the video and just subscribed!
I watched the prologue. This film was basiclally 3 movie mushed into one. Not enough time o tell 3 stories thats why nothing seem vital or important to even care about what the story in general.
I wish they could have switched the Android flute playing scene for the crew bonding with each other scene. Everyone in the theatre sighed & some took a break. I would have been fine with it on the director's cut. Hope they have all the missing footage on the Blu Ray.
My bad. I meant to say re cut the film with those scenes rather than switch em. Put the crew one in the beginning & pull the flute one from the theatre version.
Walter is shitty alright. In a battle to the death he gets side-tracked by simple conversations and murdered by a much weaker, slower and crazier version of himself. My god, who are designing these things? Why are´nt any androids in this universe working as intended? :P
Because making an android less human and much more calculated doesn't have a potential to lead to 'David', the haywire monster that kills without mercy. Gee I wonder why they wanted more human traits in the later models....
Idiots took a break that is. This was one of the best scenes in the movie. Not only it best highlighted the differences between the android models but also provided a tension because of what David could have done to Walter right there. Aaand idiots like those are exactly the reason why we have short films where stories are almost always an obvious lowhanging fruit.
I don't know if that flute scene may have been some sort of connection to the scene in Prometheus where David activates a hologram on the flight deck/ control room of the Engineer ship and you see one of the hologram Engineers blow into a flute to activate the control panel. Also just an observation from the end of Prometheus. When the Engineer ship takes off and the Prometheus ship crashes into it to bring it down the Engineer ship starts rolling along the ground like a wheel then falling towards Shaw UPSIDE DOWN. Yet when she eventually enters the crashed Engineer ship to get to David the flight deck/ control room is right way up (?) and also finds Davids head and body exactly where they fell considering the ship has just rolled along on its side with the loose contents inside like being in a washing machine.
The first ship was located in the pyramid. They would have to locate another pyramid to find another ship. Begs the question what happened at the second site ? Similar to the first, how many more pyramids?
Prince Kosmo After the Engineer rips Davids head off and kills Weyland and the others the Engineer takes off in that same ship meaning when Prometheus brings it down David and other dead bodies are still on that ship which eventually cartwheels and falls upside down onto Shaw. After Shaw escapes the Engineer and the squid alien and David tells her of the other ships you see her return to the upside down crashed ship to get David and you see her lowering his body from a hole in the side of said crashed ship so they can go to a new ship. Any way these Engineer ships don't seem to fly very well. You have the Engineer ship in Prometheus crash, Davids crashes in Covenant then you have the crashed one in Alien. The Engineers should do a safety recall on them. lol.
It's irony in the plural sense. "Irony- a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character."
Hawken Valhalla that's a very specific type of irony, and since it's not the one used in common conversation, it's incorrect unless specified. In this case it's foreshadowing. and even your definition doesn't fit, as people didn't know he was gonna be literally burning up until the movie. that, is foreshadowing.
Should have focused on making it a Prometheus sequel rather than an Alien prequel. It just feels like at LEAST 30 minutes of this movie was taken out for theater release lol. Instead, we got like two movies meshed together and neither told a full story.
It feels like the original idea was to do just that but once Prometheus wasn't received very well they jumped ahead and tried to tie it into Alien faster, instead making it feel rushed with missing pieces. Some of the scenes we saw here and potentially other we haven't seen yet could make it a little better. We'll see.
at this point they should just start this all over and make a new series called Engineers, that way you dont need it to all end up matching Alien 1. Disappointing they changed the whole direction of it because of some crybaby fan boys that didn't get enough of seeing the xenos like five other films. Its too bad they didn't keep these separate and just borrow pieces from one another such as the alien creatures itself.
Exactly. Scott should have had more faith in the story he wanted to tell. Now, he's going to be making Awakening which will back track and tell the story of David and the Xenomorphs between the events of Prometheseus and Covenant. I'm more curious about Deacon, anyway. Lot of potential with that one.
I just saw the film. I don't understand why Ridley didn't use animatronic puppets instead of CGI. Real actors in costume and puppets are just scarier to me
He did, There are a lot of practical effects they used, to the white Protmorphs, facehuggers & even the Xeno, They cast kids for the protomorphs and the shots with the Xeno in Davids lab was a guy in a suit. Also the chestburster Xeno was animatronic.
it is a weird scene but it's to show david that walter doesn't feel emotions or creativity like he does. he just does what's set to his protocol. which creation is the whole point of the current trilogy happening.
I agree this was a really effective scene and really liked it when they released it. I got the sense though that they were trying to mirror Prometheus' opening where David was wandering around by himself, and also show the contrast between the two characters. David basically fucks around - watches a film, plays basketball, bleaches his hair, watches people dream whilst Walter actually seems to spend the entire time maintaining the ship and crew. If they include this scene in a director's cut, I hope they can do so without ruining the pacing.
MsZeunicorn ; I was feeling the exact same. It was a loss for the story not not get the Shaw/David relation more clarified. Maybe that could have shed more light on if he really had some kind of romantic feelings for her, and the aliens, the eggs etc were to be the children they could never have, or if she only was a highly regarded "tool" in his megalomaniac new creation programme.
it seems like nowadays the film that gets released at the cinema is just a basic cut to get people to buy the full version of the film on dvd. it's disappointing given how expensive the cinema is. excellent video by the way, and i do feel that the bonding scene should have stayed, just so you could relate to the characters later in the story.
In a weird way, the lack of fuller character development of the team puts us partly in David's disconnected bond with humans. More development certainly would have been nice to have but the unanswered questions about his plans at the end of the film puts us in his ballpark for further speculation
Chris Gatewood Alien Covenant didn't answer Prometheus's three main questions: Who are the engineers, why did they create us, and why do they now want to destroy us - so I wouldn't hold out hope of another Alien movie answering Covenant's questions!
It annoys me that they cut the character building, but added like 15 minutes of fighting a random alien on the ship. The climactic battle was the fight on the cargo ship, but they ruined it by making it play second fiddle to the "hit it with a truck" scene.
We all fell in love with Shaw ' s character in prometheus! wish there was more to her journey with David. Was also hoping for more scenes with the Engineers.
Luke Norwood ah so good to hear an unbiased view, so many complaints that it wasn't Prometheus enough or ALIEN enough. I personally enjoyed the balance the film strove to keep between the two films, as it transitioned the story toward the 79 original.
I found this film much better than I expected it to be and as a lifelong fan of the Alien franchise I was very happy. I do think the prologue and extended scene would have most definately added to the emotional link between the audience and the crew. great video!
I loved this movie,People in the theater were cheering . Thanks for making and posting this video. It's strange that they left these scenes out of the movie because I agree that a lot of these scenes could have added context and important little details.
I loved Alien Covenant but honestly these deleted scenes shouldn't have been cut, these scenes would've made this movie perfect and would've only added another 15 minutes. Also can't wait for Awakening
I was lucky enough to get to see Alien: Covenant about 4 months before it's official release at a screening. Unless I missed it on that first viewing, I am pretty sure that the surviving robot was Walter, NOT David, as in the finished release of the film. They still showed Walter put the embryos in storage, suggesting either that he was contemplating what David told him, or maybe just had the curiosity of wanting to have the specimens to research. Did anyone else get to see a pre-release screening that can verify if the ending was changed this way?
Thank you so much for this video. I was very confused when I first saw the movie and had even wondered why the heck was Franco's role so minimal. it felt very choppy and I couldn't connect much with the characters either. These deleted scenes finally makes so much sense. Whoever made the decision to cut all these scenes needs to be fired from the team for the next project.
Yeah I sort of agree with what you're saying but I think the one who made the decision was the director lol in the video she said that he likes to keep his movies right around the 2-hour Mark so I think it had partially to do with timing. But when it comes to James Franco I almost think he kind of pissed scott off or something lol I agree though I think some of part at least part of the scenes should have been in there like the last supper maybe not the full 20 minute version but a 5-minute version of it would have been good and then the part with Shaw and David at least part of that should have been in. Maybe not the voiceover part where he says they're going to the engineers home planet because to me those dudes don't seem like engineers they seem to more like another one of the engineers science experiments because they did not seem high-tech at all and I can't think that he killed them all he by killing one small colony I mean am I supposed to believe that that's their whole society a few several hundred dudes in robes. I like this director and the series I just hope the next one can be even better because this one was a lot better than Prometheus which I saw in the theater and I walked out feeling kind of like I wasted my time with that one
Yeah, I had no problem with the ending. Its nice to have the bad guys win sometimes. It would have been better if we could have seen David's descent into madness. Why did he kill Shaw? What did he learn on the Engineer's ship?
Zepo I mean in general of coarse. We were lucky with the Alien Quadrilogy but they came decades after initial release. Still they did it for scotts kingdom of heaven and it makes a better movie so heres hoping we get a special for this and prometheus. With scenes put back in not just deleted scene extras.
Unlikely. Most of these things are not deleted scenes but viral content made specifically for web release. They were notably directed by Luke Scott, Ridley's son, so they're unlikely to end up in the movie because adding them back in is liable to mess with the tone since it wasn't directed by Ridley(although the prologue Last Supper fits in well). Same with the viral content for Prometheus. The prologue with David and Shaw is the only one I can see being added to the theatrical cut, since that one seems like it might have been directed by Ridley(The director info in the youtube upload is left vague) and was intentionally left out to keep audiences focused on the Alien storyline.
Zepo ; Trust me: there will be a MASSIVE Directors cut on this one, and it needs it. A great interactive map explaining the engineers planet would be nice. And; it did not look like the original engineers meeting them there when they landed. They looked too small and frail. Maybe the only one who did was that Priest-looking guy in white raising his hand in welcome just David showered them with living crude oil-bombs... I'd like a game-like walk-through on the different ships, especially the engineer-pretzel.
I have been a fan of Alien movies for many years, I get excited by this videos that show a different view of the movie, thank you. Can wait to get the merchandise
Jan: Excellent information, cogently presented and comprehensive work - well done! I am simply a movie lover, without any kind of legitimate pedigree as a film maker [unlike so many folks on youtube who seem to make that kind of claim]. This video of yours discussing A:C's deleted scenes only makes me wonder why on earth Ridley decided not to include them in the theatrical cut. Nearly all of the deleted scenes you discuss here would certainly have made A:C much more thematically fulfilling in my mind since most of the biggest problems I had with A:C would have been significantly mitigated with their inclusion. It just seems such a curious and unfathomable decision by Scott...Do you have any thoughts or info on why this was the case? cheers!
+HKreload: Since when did it become OK for film makers to release scenes for films on youtube but not make them part of the film itself? Your argument about them being freely available on youtube is irrelevant - the fact is, as this video states, most all of the deleted scenes in this case would have ADDED or CLARIFIED events on the film. Their omission, IMO and in the opinion of others, does appear to objectively detract from the theatrical release. That however is only OPINION. Feel free to differ. In your example about James Franco, you are basically linking character development with the number of lines they have or possibly onscreen time. Again, this could not be more incorrect. It's called "acting" - that word encompasses not only spoken lines of dialog, but also non-verbal means of communication, both with fellow actors onscreen and also to us as the audience. Sir Anthony Hopkins won an Oscar for his portrayal of Hannibal Lecter - yet he was only onscreen for less than 20 minutes. Living under a rock? Bro, you could not be more smarmy. It has nothing to do with that at all. Personally, I am a fan of the entire franchise but I ain't no 24/7 fanboi that is compelled to endlessly seek out every minute detail of a given topic in some geekily-maniacal manner. And last I heard, not everyone has access to the internet or even uses youtube or even cares to watch TV. Some people like to read books and do stuff outdoors like sports. Finally, I saw Alien in the theater in its original run - did you? Didn't think so.
@Joe Satchton, so glad you enjoyed the video and although HKreload is correct that these videos were available before the film, it's just not the same as including them in the film. The prologues were released quite a long time before the movie came out and were very good as marketing material but I believe the movie could have been much better by simply also including them in the movie. Any filmmaker can't actually expect that scenes which aren't in the film you see in the cinema to be considered as significant as if they had been in the final film. And HKreload, the film really has to stand by itself ultimately. The best films out there don't have a prerequisite that you must have watched trailer 1, 2, 3 or marketing video 4, 5, 6 to properly understand whatever is going on. Any supplementary material can be enjoyable extras for anyone who wants to delve in but can't be considered strictly a part of the film that you paid to see in the cinema. My only assumption (and it could be wrong) for why Scott didn't include the prologues is because he felt the movie would be too long with them, or perhaps he couldn't see how to fit them in for reasons. A very small part of the Elizabeth Shaw scene was used in the middle of the movie, but I would have thought it could have all been used. Killing a major character off screen in between films generally isn't the best idea.
@HKReload: I was hoping to have a civilized discussion with you on this topic - I really was. But clearly you're just another typical, yawn-inducing, smarmy, insulting punk troll. Ciao kid...
@Flicks And The City: Hey, thanks so much for taking time to reply :) Yes, I stand corrected - the items under discussion are "prologues" and/or supplementary materials. I guess in my old school perspective, and if in a future DC or special version, these scenes do eventually get inserted, then they would be at that point "deleted scenes" wouldn't they? Ah, semantics - what a wonderfully pointless thing, especially on the net. :D ;) Your key point, which I do happen to agree with, is that the "best" films do generally need to stand on their own. Further, excellent point about about supplemental materials and their role in films - they shouldn't be crutches. Citizen Kane stands on its own, The Godfather, Shawshank Redemption...on and on, most all of the classic films in cinema history have been deemed classics despite the fact that they contain or offer no additional stuff. This fashion of "director's cuts" and reams of supplementary materials really originated over the last 20+ years or so, in many cases as pure marketing ploys [e.g., "you love the movie! now get the DVD / BD to get even more extra stuff!"] - that's totally cool as an option and I love that stuff as well. In the case of A:C, my opinion stands and is generally similar to your reaction here on your video - I have now seen A:C three times and absolutely feel that almost all of the "prologue" / extra scenes would have mitigated, to varying degrees, the thematic and characterization issues I had with the movie. Technically, Scott has done a typically amazing job, no question. Visuals are spectacular, the creature effects and horror elements largely are terrific, the audio is equally great and the pacing pretty good for a three act film. But I have said this on other posts - A:C to me was like an exquisitely prepared 3 Michelin star meal that comes with portions fit for a child...I just wanted a wee bit more. :) cheers and thanks again for the reply and the vid[s]! SUBBED!
I believe, the reason behind cutting David and Dr. Shaw Scene (in the ship) is to establish this movies not as sequel of Prometheus. as we know director of the movie has already said that Prometheus was a mistake. But the movie is just like its other part just characters and locations were different. very disappointed because I saw prometheus many times and its sequel was awaited.
It is a shame that they didn't use a character like Elizabeth Shaw in a proper way. In my eyes she was a promising final girl. She shouldn't have been ignored in such a way.
Great video new to the page subscribed and I really wish they would of chosen to use these scenes I saw them before I went to see the movie so I knew but it would of been nice for others to see them as well I don't know why he cuts so much out of his movies I will never understand that but thanks for the great video and the merch looks really cool can't wait to find out who the lucky fan is! 👍 keep up the good work!
I saw the film last night and enjoyed it. Sure, it wasn't perfect and yes we didn't get to know the crew before they were picked off but I enjoyed it. The additional scenes do make a difference but then the first act of the film would be slow if they were in the cinema cut. I would just like to know if Elizabeth died naturally before David started experimenting on her. Hopefully we will get the answer in Alien Awakens
Well I think he killed her coz when Walther confronts him about it, saying literally: "You killed her" David doesnt dispute that and it looks like he tacitly confirms the statement..... And besides, David is a sick fuck :D
it's not perfect cus there were so many questions unanswered and that's why i think it's so good. cus you need to find the bits and pieces and put them together you'd realize .. WOW
So we have to trade Shaw, who was a unique, really cool female protagonist, for Daniels, who isn't terrible, but is basically a Ripley knock-off. Thanks, Ridley Scott.
I hope she is alive in Awakening where David shows off his engineered xenomorphs after he experimented on some settlers from cryosleep and wakes her up after some 10+ years!
I loved the movie and would definitely like to see the director's cut with all the deleted scenes! I hope the next movie explains how Shaw died. David is still my favorite character, even if he turned out to be a twisted psycho.
Even though the movie was 2 hours, it felt like so much was missing. You are correct it was very difficult to connect to the characters. I hope they release an extended cut with all of these missing scenes. Thank you for this video.
I seen the movie and love it. I think the Movie highlights the struggle of, Man against Machine. Good against Bad, and I think Walter will be in the next movie as the hero, and David as the villain. I can't wait to see if?
So sad they throw out all of the character development moments. All the characters were paper thin and forgettable. The only character that had anything interesting going for them was David and Walter. The whole movie was boring besides the back bursting scene with Danny McBride's wife. It's a shame this movie's story was so poorly made.
I knew the Alien "series" would be huge when I picked up a Heavy Metal magazine in the 70's. That was the first place I heard about Alien, I just never knew it would continue to draw audiences to this day!
Alien: Covenant is a movie that grabs you tightly and never lets go. It brings back that sense of fear and claustrophobia that was present in the first film, and ends up being a truly satisfying prequel to the alien films. Ridley Scott returns to his "baby" that is the Alien franchise in such an exhilarating way that it is hard to ever look away from the screen. With a fascinating story exploring the ideas of AI against human condition, Alien: Covenant doesn't just end up being a great Alien movie, it ends up being both a great science fiction movie and an intense psychological thriller. The acting in this movie was terrific, with the stand out being Michael Fassbender. As one of the best parts of this movie, Fassbender returns as not only one but two characters, showcasing his range as a masterclass actor. With creature effects that are horrifying but surprisingly beautiful to look at, the aliens are a true force to be reckoned with, making for some of the scariest and goriest moments in the Alien franchise. While there may be a large amount of questions unanswered by the end of the movie, those are put aside for an ending that changes the Alien movies forever. Overall, Alien: Covenant is a movie that reinvigorates the franchise and is a warm welcome for science fiction and horror fans alike.
Where is it written a movie has to be only 2 hours long. I wouldn't have minded sitting in the movie another 45 minutes learning more about David and Shaws journey. What and how David was experimenting with the black goo , the creation of the protomorph and the eggs. Too many missing pieces of the puzzle in Covenant that probably won't be explained in Awakening. 4 stars out of 10. 👎🏽
I am Lucero I agree, if Star Wars and Lord of the Ring are 3 hrs long, why can't Alien be 2 and a half hrs long or more??? At least would be better story telling than this rushed BS.
movies are usually cut to fit the 2 hour length so that theatres can fit in more rounds of screening per day. and yes i agree with you....probably get more plot from the trailers than the movie itself
David didnt create anything,much like any scientist,he experimented with the black goo,a creation of the engineers,he fiddled and put the goo on various organic forms,he simply took the goo and started to mess with it,he did not create the Xenomorph,the black goo did.
piccolo1906 I agree. I was looking forward to shaw's mission but then they newt us by killing her off. She was the only character I enjoyed and to find out that she was not only killed but butcher was fucking annoying.
Shaw was too nice and trusting she should have never trusted David he was up to his own agenda from the beginning... I would have never put David's head back on until we got where we were going... And I would not have taken that goo with me because going to sleep and leave things in David's hands after hearing him make the statement about "sometimes you have to destroy in order to create", was not a good idea... he could have easily recalculated that ship and headed for earth is what I think he wanted in the first place...
April R Turner thank you, people act so mad she died at David's hands, it's like they are stupidly forgetting he killed her boyfriend with the Pathogen in Prometheus without a tinge of guilt. He didn't care about humans, his motivation in that regard was clear in Prometheus & Covenant, people who can't see that are being willfully ignorant...
each time I watch the movie I like it more...which was also what happened with Prometheus. Thanks for sharing on the deleted scenes...sincerely wish that they'd been included, esp the link between the end of Prometheus, and how Shaw and David got to the next planet...that definately made so much more sense!
I wish there was a special edition with some of these scenes restored, would have made movie even better IMO. Great reviews on this channel please keep it up 😉
Bipolar, or psychopathic? David seems neither manic nor depressive, just deceptive and devoid of compassion towards humans. Then again, he is not human.
They literally should have kept everything that they deleted. Whoever was in charge of that needs to be fired and never allowed to touch any media again.
Just saw the movie. I think it's disappointing that David killed Shaw and had her on a table dissected . I thought it was a cheap and lazy approach. It would have been better if he had turned her into a queen. Lastly I can't help , but feel that having David as the creator of the alien it has reduced the mystique of the alien.
This film was entirely based on one of the worst lines in Prometheus. David: "Doesn't everyone want to kill their parents?" The 'kill all humans' bullshit is so old.
It would be stupid if he turned her into a queen alien. Like how tf he manage to do that? But totally agreed with you, they just made the xeno less interesting to think that the creepy Monster was created by an android... like.....
The entire movie was stupid so shaw being a queen would fit right in. How about that bit when the little baby alien stood up and stretched his arms out at David? Pretty fkn stupid.
Great video, very interesting to see additional footage that never made it. I def think the last supper would've been a good addition to the movie to have that character background.
Nice video. I hope all of the deleted scenes make it into an extended bluray/digital version. I would have appreciated those scenes in the movie even though it made the cut time above 2h.
i really liked the movie but finding out that the xenomorph was indirectly created by humanity kind of breaks all the mystery and enigma surrounding the alien myth :/
Evil Neo I felt shafted about that. I actually preferred the vague knowledge concerning xenomorphs and where they came from back in the day. Not knowing upped the ante.
The creature existed way before David according to the fresque in Prometheus amd the fossilised Space Jockey in Alien... one doesn't stop the other... The black goo lead to the creature. So David create another type of Eggs, Facehugger and Xeno to me it's that simple. But saying that I can't wait to see Ridley make his own Star Wars Prelogy and disapointed people with improvised script that retcon and modify the good ideas of Alien, it's interesting and fascinating at the ssme time lol (and I'm dead serious) : )
We gotta face the music ladies and gents... the movie just wasn't what we hoped it would be. The series is flopped like a fish out of chest cavity... I mean water.
The movie was SOOOOOOO .....disappointing..!! I nearly to cry whene i was leaving the cinema... The movie has nothing to do with the prometheus sequel of the film... THE ONLY GOOD PART IS THE PROLOGE RERESE PART kai at the actual film the destroying scene of the enginiers... I has expectiing the film to continiou where was prometheus left.... To see paradise planet and again Elizabeth Shaw playinh the leading role.. only the fact that shes not playing at the film is a TOTAL TURN OFF!!!! WE LOVED HER CHARACTER AND PLAYING AS ACTOR... FIND A WAY TO BRING HER BACK TO THE FILM... SAY THAT THE ALIEN COVENANT WAS A DREAM STORY....
Oh, come on. Scott always was the master of director's cut. This film wont be any different. And I am pretty sure all these prologues we have seen so far are part of the fan marketing. Or maybe director's experiment how to play with fan audience via youtube. Can't wait to lay my hands on director's cut. Reckon there will be a lot.
I'm sorry but just the line where the captain said "I'm burning up"before he went to sleep is so ironic as he got burnt to a crisp in the pod when they were waking up loll 😂😂😂😂😢😢 #foreshadowing #spoileralert
Massive respect for an excellent essay on the deleted scenes. The high quality of these articles makes me wonder if they will in time play a significant roll in future movie production. Let us hope they replace the outrageous and discredited test screenings. I feel it is sad how the real story of space... the huge deal of colonization... ends up on the cutting room floor. (Does current pro-editing software actually have a 'floor' folder? it's been a decade for me.) True fans of space don't need 'drama' and 'monsters' to keep them interested. When you are a fan of archeology as I am, people get their rock off over the smallest details. A single embryo would captivate generations of scientists. Yet the movie has so much more on offer. Imagine a cinematic experience that just had explorers dealing with the dead engineers in all their Pompain glory. What the fuck happened here??? Wow. Imagine a full scale art instillation of that arena in the middle of nowhere. Frozen death on a geological scale. In the movie it is just a back drop... but... WOW.
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Flicks And The City I saw the clip of the backbutster it was so gory
Definitely agree, wouldn't have "saved" the film in my opinion (the plot relies too much on characters making appallingly bad decisions) but at least it would have improved it and made some character's death more meaningful.
Flicks And The City alien covenant is a overall a disappointment film, too even go the more alien route instead of a new film is a waste opportunity for something more interesting
Flicks And The City / Jan, wasn't sure if I was supposed to put post here to be eligible for your wonderful gift package so apologies for posting this twice!
Really enjoyed your video! I agree that there were several scenes that I wished they'd left in for the very reasons you stated. It will be interesting to see if they'll be put back in for a special edition/director's cut when the blueray version comes out! Hopefully this will be the case, and makes sense that they would do it that way. Also would have been nice to see the Shaw/David scenes as well! Just my thoughts! lol Thanks again for sharing this awesome video! Lady Anne ^^Ö^^
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"I'm just burning up" that's some dark foreshadowing right there! XD
lit AF
crews should tell him dont eat too much can nuts before sleep.
IKR xD
Ahhhhh! 😱 so true
The "Last Supper" and "Shaw and David" scene should be in the movie it would've made a difference.
Actually, the way it was released as a prologue promo makes it better and builds some hype. It would look pretty stupid if we witnessed the last supper when they go to sleep and then movie jump cuts back to them waking up 5 minutes later. That small time between this prologue scene and the actual release of the movie help it feel more natural. And also that fake stomach ache self-irony joke wouldn't even work in the actual movie because we know exactly when we get to alien infestation.
You're right Haohmaru. But, that scene does help the overall story. I wasn't aware of it until after watching the movie.
yeah.. I seriously did not give a crap when they died
No.
Gary James Fukuhara the last supper scene wouldn’t have added anything more than an extra few unnecessary minutes
Shaw will be missed...
Her death was so lame that it actually made me sad for what a waste it was... Poor Liz... 😭😭😭
KaloTube we have never seen her dying. How can we say that her death was lame? We don't even know if she was killed by David, crash, or infection from Prometheus (trylobite 'birth' could've not been the end of her black goo related problems).
Mateusz Różnowski When he wanted to kill Daniels, he said, he'll do to her what he did to Shaw. Which screws up that neat prologue. And the fact she probably never met the engineers.
Scott has mentioned that one of the sequels he wants to make will be a prequel to Covenant that ties prometheus them together by exploring the Shaw storyline. Though I don't believe that happens. Initially he said that the Prometheus sequels were going to drift further from the Alien universe and that didn't happen.
Justus Pongyan Jr they mutilated shaw, dam
I expected to see Shaw.....but not in the way she appeared. It broke my fucken heart what they did to her character dammit.
Alien Covenant Guest Staring Noomi Rapace's intestines.
Charli3_ Boii the next alien movie is based right after prometheus so you will see more shaw
I was so excited to see her again 😒, I knew that something wrong with the movie when it start. I didn't like the ending 😥
No happy endings in Alien.
That's true,but they deleted the good scenes from the movie and they didn't show Dr Shaw
I didn't care about ANY of these characters. They were just bodies
psychopath
I caught myself feeling a bit sorry for Walter. He seems to be so much dedicated and devoted to the crew but they like just don't notice him.
He was made to serve humans, noting bad about that.
Worse thing is that he was killed by old version of him that was supposed to be inferior.
Walter seemed more stable than Ash. Wouldn't Ash be superior to both David & Walter? Ash probably hasn't even been assembled yet. This film is set 18 years before Alien
we dont know if he was killed, personally hopes he finds something too fly and chase that fuc head David with =)
They should have named Walter Geeves and dressed him like a butler instead of a green arrow
The only scene that was actually meant to be in the film, was the prologue with Shaw and David. From what I've heard, it was cut after a test screening. The Last Supper and She Won't Go Quietly videos were never meant to be part of the film, but to serve as viral marketing materials.
EXACTLY. These people need to seriously do their research.
Hybrid Network heyo look it's my favorite channel keep up the great work
The test screenings were wrong because at least I can be happy to have seen Shaw in the film one last time before what David did to her.
I really want the director's cut version now
michael lee yes
Same, although unfortunately like Prometheus this is already Ridley Scott's directors cut, so I hope we receive all of the deleted scenes.
michael lee agreed I want a full movie dammit
Me too.
A2DM: So I guess Ridley Scott hates us now or something? Or was there studio interference? I can't believe that the theater version of this movie is what Scott would have wanted. You don't get to know the crew at all so when they start dying you couldn't care less.
The film should have been everything that happened between promethius and Covenant. They fucked up skimming over Shaw's death her relationship with David. Wiping out the engineers In a 2 min flashback seemed pretty stupid as well. I was well disappointed as they had so many good ideas to run. With from promethius
I heard that that was the original idea but was changed due to audience reaction to prometheus...
@@Mikestenator Yeah it was sadly😢
I'm not sure about those engineers they seemed pretty low-tech. I understand it's supposed to be their homeworld but that part just kind of doesn't make sense to me
David now has a lot of toys to play with.
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That opening scene with the crew was never intended to be in the movie it was actually directed by Ridley Scott's son only to be used as a viral video.
This. We saw this clips in full before the movie came out.
Conner Wiltshire i think it would have helped the movie though. i liked the film but it felt rushed at times and this could have worked to develop the characters a little more
It needed these scenes.
Absolutley, the movie seemed so rushed and so many things happening so fast. I really felt disappointed after the screening and I'm a big fan of Scott.
I hope there's a director's cut for this.
Punisher Armory. I don't think it would have hurt to have the omitted scenes be part of the feature, but I also think most of us true fans had watched the omitted scenes multiple times before the movie opened in theatres yesterday (05.19.2017). In some ways I thought it a bit clever by Scott to do things the way they were done as all of us Alien nuts had already watched the omitted scenes so we knew some of the "back story" before the movie started and non-Alien nuts never really missed the scenes they didn't know about.
Scott should pass the torch hes out of touch. The poor CG, Left more questions, The movie needed the omitted prologe with David and shaw...As much as it hurts me to say the movie $%&! the bed.
i dont think he necessarily is out of touch, i just think he's trying to expand the universe too rapidly and cramming a bunch story into this and prometheus. he said he doesn't want there to be as big of a time gap between alien films anymore so hopefully this will help him better pace the movies.
Punisher Armory agreed let disney take over and people will see what they want.not what the creator wants.george lucus had to do it.
Here's the thing. The trailers were structured and paced in such different ways that I was truly hyped about the movie believing that Mr Scott had created the perfect Alien film. From the spooky Nature Boy cover to the bizarre Country Roads the trailers were genuinely brilliant at their job. Seeding my anticipation with high hopes of drama and mystery and tension. The interview in which Mr Scott spoke of the challenge of scaring the shit out of people had me worried about seeing the film thinking it might be too much for my heart to take. Alas the film was not like the trailers. It looked amazing and sounded fantastic but it just didn't work as a journey. If it was a rollercoaster then the promise of thrilling drops and turns were found to be straights and minor dips with the breaks on. I am hopeful that there is an alternative edit that with new eyes can save this movie from the disappointing theatrical release. The promise is all there but when I hear phrases about keeping things at set lengths I get annoyed. We are not babies. Film is an art form and shouldn't pander to conformity. A story takes as long as it takes to unravel as does a song and this film I'm certain would bask in glory in it's full length 12" dance edit. Rock on Ridley. Please Please Me.
"A story takes as long as it takes to unravel ..." Studios don't think like that alas. They write scripts in 3 acts, and there has to be some action written in every 10 - 15 minutes to keep the audience interested (their view, not mine). Something has to happen to the character(s) near the end of the first act...It's a formula they cannot deviate from. Hence so many flops!
They should have added the "Last supper" scene and deleted the flute scene.
lot of footage missing; we need an extended cut.
it will all be shown in DVD.. thats how they make money left out all the important stuff on the big screen and save them in a little disk to rip you off for another $49,99
Marketing sucks
Extended, uncut, definitive edition, and get a facehugger plushie for free.
That is what it would take to forgive this movie :P
Scott made a director's cut for the original film, so don't count it out.
I think what we need it's a real Prometheus sequel.
Loved the movie. Best scene was 100% when David was revealed with long, overgrown hair and a hood covering his face. So cool! Loved the video and just subscribed!
Andrew Earl he became a jedi during his time alone on Paradise (ok maybe more of a sith).
Movie was a let down, only upside was they gave credit to HR Giger.
disapointed with this, should have been sequel to promethius
It was....
Um it wasnt. It was like it skipped a few episodes after prometheus. This was about David getting off the planet not getting to the planet.
Emory Ricks Watch the Prologue
I watched the prologue. This film was basiclally 3 movie mushed into one. Not enough time o tell 3 stories thats why nothing seem vital or important to even care about what the story in general.
Christina Provost You just don’t understand the story line. This tells us that David made the alien we know today! You moron.
David is so creepy when he smiles omg, the actor is so skilled xD
Creepy but a cool Character.
I wish they could have switched the Android flute playing scene for the crew bonding with each other scene. Everyone in the theatre sighed & some took a break. I would have been fine with it on the director's cut. Hope they have all the missing footage on the Blu Ray.
My bad. I meant to say re cut the film with those scenes rather than switch em. Put the crew one in the beginning & pull the flute one from the theatre version.
No it showed how shitty Walter is compared to David
Walter is shitty alright. In a battle to the death he gets side-tracked by simple conversations and murdered by a much weaker, slower and crazier version of himself. My god, who are designing these things? Why are´nt any androids in this universe working as intended? :P
Because making an android less human and much more calculated doesn't have a potential to lead to 'David', the haywire monster that kills without mercy. Gee I wonder why they wanted more human traits in the later models....
Idiots took a break that is. This was one of the best scenes in the movie. Not only it best highlighted the differences between the android models but also provided a tension because of what David could have done to Walter right there. Aaand idiots like those are exactly the reason why we have short films where stories are almost always an obvious lowhanging fruit.
Would have been good/creepy to maybe see Walter attempting to play the flute back on the engineers planet at the end post credits
Chris Tann actually yes that would be awesome, hinting walter was convinced by davids way of thinking
I don't know if that flute scene may have been some sort of connection to the scene in Prometheus where David activates a hologram on the flight deck/ control room of the Engineer ship and you see one of the hologram Engineers blow into a flute to activate the control panel. Also just an observation from the end of Prometheus. When the Engineer ship takes off and the Prometheus ship crashes into it to bring it down the Engineer ship starts rolling along the ground like a wheel then falling towards Shaw UPSIDE DOWN. Yet when she eventually enters the crashed Engineer ship to get to David the flight deck/ control room is right way up (?) and also finds Davids head and body exactly where they fell considering the ship has just rolled along on its side with the loose contents inside like being in a washing machine.
Gary Martin i also noticed the engineer was not wearing a helmet from hes ship chased down shaw.
The first ship was located in the pyramid. They would have to locate another pyramid to find another ship. Begs the question what happened at the second site ? Similar to the first, how many more pyramids?
Prince Kosmo After the Engineer rips Davids head off and kills Weyland and the others the Engineer takes off in that same ship meaning when Prometheus brings it down David and other dead bodies are still on that ship which eventually cartwheels and falls upside down onto Shaw. After Shaw escapes the Engineer and the squid alien and David tells her of the other ships you see her return to the upside down crashed ship to get David and you see her lowering his body from a hole in the side of said crashed ship so they can go to a new ship. Any way these Engineer ships don't seem to fly very well. You have the Engineer ship in Prometheus crash, Davids crashes in Covenant then you have the crashed one in Alien. The Engineers should do a safety recall on them. lol.
The irony of james franco saying "I'm burning up" 😂😂
it's foreshadowing, not irony.
It's irony in the plural sense. "Irony- a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character."
Hawken Valhalla that's a very specific type of irony, and since it's not the one used in common conversation, it's incorrect unless specified. In this case it's foreshadowing. and even your definition doesn't fit, as people didn't know he was gonna be literally burning up until the movie. that, is foreshadowing.
Except the people watching the deleted scenes have already seen the movie... So it does fit.
The scene with the "Hooded David" rescuing the crew, I was crossing my fingers hoping that was Elizabeth :(
I really want to see MORE of Shaw's and David's journey......
Should have focused on making it a Prometheus sequel rather than an Alien prequel. It just feels like at LEAST 30 minutes of this movie was taken out for theater release lol. Instead, we got like two movies meshed together and neither told a full story.
It feels like the original idea was to do just that but once Prometheus wasn't received very well they jumped ahead and tried to tie it into Alien faster, instead making it feel rushed with missing pieces. Some of the scenes we saw here and potentially other we haven't seen yet could make it a little better. We'll see.
Well, they are doing 4 more movies to answe the questions, sooo
at this point they should just start this all over and make a new series called Engineers, that way you dont need it to all end up matching Alien 1. Disappointing they changed the whole direction of it because of some crybaby fan boys that didn't get enough of seeing the xenos like five other films. Its too bad they didn't keep these separate and just borrow pieces from one another such as the alien creatures itself.
Perfectly said.
Exactly. Scott should have had more faith in the story he wanted to tell. Now, he's going to be making Awakening which will back track and tell the story of David and the Xenomorphs between the events of Prometheseus and Covenant. I'm more curious about Deacon, anyway. Lot of potential with that one.
My favourite moment was probably when the neomorphs teamed up and attack the group while they were out in the field
Yes, like Velociraptors in Jurassic teaming up like lions
;-)
Mine was David about to dock the ship and dropping the goo.
When the chest burster pops out I actually thought he was going to say "I am Groot".
David C. Hahah! Dude I could edit that to happen, then upload it here, giving you full credit for the genius idea! 😂
9thNinja That would be awesome man. Go for it!! 😂
Pleaaaaassseeeee do that!!!!
Lol there's a Dallas in another one and a Tennessee in covenant
I just saw the film. I don't understand why Ridley didn't use animatronic puppets instead of CGI. Real actors in costume and puppets are just scarier to me
Yeah, I was disappointed that that made all the 'morphs' completely CGI.
goblinb same
Urban Shamen I didn't mind it as much and I'm the type that doesn't really like CGI
He did, There are a lot of practical effects they used, to the white Protmorphs, facehuggers & even the Xeno, They cast kids for the protomorphs and the shots with the Xeno in Davids lab was a guy in a suit. Also the chestburster Xeno was animatronic.
the xeno was a person in a suit. Watch the special features.
The fact that the flute scene was left in is just unbelievably stupid
it is a weird scene but it's to show david that walter doesn't feel emotions or creativity like he does. he just does what's set to his protocol. which creation is the whole point of the current trilogy happening.
Liked the film. Really wished the team bonding scene was left in. When the original captain died in the first 5 sec, like no emotions about that.
Yeh, the last supper scene should have been left in.
I agree this was a really effective scene and really liked it when they released it.
I got the sense though that they were trying to mirror Prometheus' opening where David was wandering around by himself, and also show the contrast between the two characters. David basically fucks around - watches a film, plays basketball, bleaches his hair, watches people dream whilst Walter actually seems to spend the entire time maintaining the ship and crew.
If they include this scene in a director's cut, I hope they can do so without ruining the pacing.
MsZeunicorn ; I was feeling the exact same. It was a loss for the story not not get the Shaw/David relation more clarified. Maybe that could have shed more light on if he really had some kind of romantic feelings for her, and the aliens, the eggs etc were to be the children they could never have, or if she only was a highly regarded "tool" in his megalomaniac new creation programme.
it seems like nowadays the film that gets released at the cinema is just a basic cut to get people to buy the full version of the film on dvd.
it's disappointing given how expensive the cinema is.
excellent video by the way, and i do feel that the bonding scene should have stayed, just so you could relate to the characters later in the story.
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In a weird way, the lack of fuller character development of the team puts us partly in David's disconnected bond with humans. More development certainly would have been nice to have but the unanswered questions about his plans at the end of the film puts us in his ballpark for further speculation
Chris Gatewood pp
Chris Gatewood Alien Covenant didn't answer Prometheus's three main questions: Who are the engineers, why did they create us, and why do they now want to destroy us - so I wouldn't hold out hope of another Alien movie answering Covenant's questions!
It annoys me that they cut the character building, but added like 15 minutes of fighting a random alien on the ship. The climactic battle was the fight on the cargo ship, but they ruined it by making it play second fiddle to the "hit it with a truck" scene.
We all fell in love with Shaw ' s character in prometheus! wish there was more to her journey with David. Was also hoping for more scenes with the Engineers.
I dont mind the film being longer or slower. Every alien movie is a joy to me. And it gives me more to think about.
Thanks for condensing everything down,Jan. Appreciate it
I just saw it yesterday I can't explain why they took the scenes out I just hope the next one is better
I personally loved it, never seen an alien film before but had to watch them after this one.
Luke Norwood ah so good to hear an unbiased view, so many complaints that it wasn't Prometheus enough or ALIEN enough. I personally enjoyed the balance the film strove to keep between the two films, as it transitioned the story toward the 79 original.
Luke Norwood same
I found this film much better than I expected it to be and as a lifelong fan of the Alien franchise I was very happy. I do think the prologue and extended scene would have most definately added to the emotional link between the audience and the crew. great video!
I loved this movie,People in the theater were cheering . Thanks for making and posting this video. It's strange that they left these scenes out of the movie because I agree that a lot of these scenes could have added context and important little details.
Crazy not to have included these in the final cut!!!
Covenant seemed like a 2 hour long trailer for the next movie,very disappointing.
Haaha 😁
I loved Alien Covenant but honestly these deleted scenes shouldn't have been cut, these scenes would've made this movie perfect and would've only added another 15 minutes. Also can't wait for Awakening
I was lucky enough to get to see Alien: Covenant about 4 months before it's official release at a screening. Unless I missed it on that first viewing, I am pretty sure that the surviving robot was Walter, NOT David, as in the finished release of the film. They still showed Walter put the embryos in storage, suggesting either that he was contemplating what David told him, or maybe just had the curiosity of wanting to have the specimens to research. Did anyone else get to see a pre-release screening that can verify if the ending was changed this way?
Thank you so much for this video. I was very confused when I first saw the movie and had even wondered why the heck was Franco's role so minimal. it felt very choppy and I couldn't connect much with the characters either. These deleted scenes finally makes so much sense. Whoever made the decision to cut all these scenes needs to be fired from the team for the next project.
Yeah I sort of agree with what you're saying but I think the one who made the decision was the director lol in the video she said that he likes to keep his movies right around the 2-hour Mark so I think it had partially to do with timing. But when it comes to James Franco I almost think he kind of pissed scott off or something lol I agree though I think some of part at least part of the scenes should have been in there like the last supper maybe not the full 20 minute version but a 5-minute version of it would have been good and then the part with Shaw and David at least part of that should have been in. Maybe not the voiceover part where he says they're going to the engineers home planet because to me those dudes don't seem like engineers they seem to more like another one of the engineers science experiments because they did not seem high-tech at all and I can't think that he killed them all he by killing one small colony I mean am I supposed to believe that that's their whole society a few several hundred dudes in robes. I like this director and the series I just hope the next one can be even better because this one was a lot better than Prometheus which I saw in the theater and I walked out feeling kind of like I wasted my time with that one
I was heart broken when I realized it wasn't Walter onboard but David :(
Brenda LoSa that scene scared me, knowing you're locked in a pod with David having full control over you o.0
Yeah, I had no problem with the ending. Its nice to have the bad guys win sometimes. It would have been better if we could have seen David's descent into madness. Why did he kill Shaw? What did he learn on the Engineer's ship?
That was highly predictable. As was the whole movie.
Is there going to be a director's cut? Hopefully that would include all the deleted scenes.
XEN annoyingly they dont do this too often but I feel this film needs these scenes back in.
Nathan Williams They had one for every film besides Prometheus.
Zepo I mean in general of coarse. We were lucky with the Alien Quadrilogy but they came decades after initial release. Still they did it for scotts kingdom of heaven and it makes a better movie so heres hoping we get a special for this and prometheus. With scenes put back in not just deleted scene extras.
Unlikely. Most of these things are not deleted scenes but viral content made specifically for web release. They were notably directed by Luke Scott, Ridley's son, so they're unlikely to end up in the movie because adding them back in is liable to mess with the tone since it wasn't directed by Ridley(although the prologue Last Supper fits in well). Same with the viral content for Prometheus. The prologue with David and Shaw is the only one I can see being added to the theatrical cut, since that one seems like it might have been directed by Ridley(The director info in the youtube upload is left vague) and was intentionally left out to keep audiences focused on the Alien storyline.
it will be in the DVD for sure
I liked the movie but I really wish these scenes were in the film. Fingers crossed for a directors cut, this movie needs one.
Zepo ; Trust me: there will be a MASSIVE Directors cut on this one, and it needs it. A great interactive map explaining the engineers planet would be nice. And; it did not look like the original engineers meeting them there when they landed. They looked too small and frail.
Maybe the only one who did was that Priest-looking guy in white raising his hand in welcome just David showered them with living crude oil-bombs...
I'd like a game-like walk-through on the different ships, especially the engineer-pretzel.
Directors are the ones who cut stuff OUT.
The cut scenes explained everything that was gapping in the movie - thx so much!!
I have been a fan of Alien movies for many years, I get excited by this videos that show a different view of the movie, thank you. Can wait to get the merchandise
Jan: Excellent information, cogently presented and comprehensive work - well done!
I am simply a movie lover, without any kind of legitimate pedigree as a film maker [unlike so many folks on youtube who seem to make that kind of claim]. This video of yours discussing A:C's deleted scenes only makes me wonder why on earth Ridley decided not to include them in the theatrical cut. Nearly all of the deleted scenes you discuss here would certainly have made A:C much more thematically fulfilling in my mind since most of the biggest problems I had with A:C would have been significantly mitigated with their inclusion.
It just seems such a curious and unfathomable decision by Scott...Do you have any thoughts or info on why this was the case?
cheers!
+HKreload: Since when did it become OK for film makers to release scenes for films on youtube but not make them part of the film itself?
Your argument about them being freely available on youtube is irrelevant - the fact is, as this video states, most all of the deleted scenes in this case would have ADDED or CLARIFIED events on the film. Their omission, IMO and in the opinion of others, does appear to objectively detract from the theatrical release. That however is only OPINION. Feel free to differ.
In your example about James Franco, you are basically linking character development with the number of lines they have or possibly onscreen time. Again, this could not be more incorrect. It's called "acting" - that word encompasses not only spoken lines of dialog, but also non-verbal means of communication, both with fellow actors onscreen and also to us as the audience. Sir Anthony Hopkins won an Oscar for his portrayal of Hannibal Lecter - yet he was only onscreen for less than 20 minutes.
Living under a rock? Bro, you could not be more smarmy. It has nothing to do with that at all. Personally, I am a fan of the entire franchise but I ain't no 24/7 fanboi that is compelled to endlessly seek out every minute detail of a given topic in some geekily-maniacal manner. And last I heard, not everyone has access to the internet or even uses youtube or even cares to watch TV. Some people like to read books and do stuff outdoors like sports.
Finally, I saw Alien in the theater in its original run - did you? Didn't think so.
@Joe Satchton, so glad you enjoyed the video and although HKreload is correct that these videos were available before the film, it's just not the same as including them in the film. The prologues were released quite a long time before the movie came out and were very good as marketing material but I believe the movie could have been much better by simply also including them in the movie.
Any filmmaker can't actually expect that scenes which aren't in the film you see in the cinema to be considered as significant as if they had been in the final film. And HKreload, the film really has to stand by itself ultimately. The best films out there don't have a prerequisite that you must have watched trailer 1, 2, 3 or marketing video 4, 5, 6 to properly understand whatever is going on. Any supplementary material can be enjoyable extras for anyone who wants to delve in but can't be considered strictly a part of the film that you paid to see in the cinema.
My only assumption (and it could be wrong) for why Scott didn't include the prologues is because he felt the movie would be too long with them, or perhaps he couldn't see how to fit them in for reasons. A very small part of the Elizabeth Shaw scene was used in the middle of the movie, but I would have thought it could have all been used. Killing a major character off screen in between films generally isn't the best idea.
@HKReload: I was hoping to have a civilized discussion with you on this topic - I really was. But clearly you're just another typical, yawn-inducing, smarmy, insulting punk troll.
Ciao kid...
@Flicks And The City: Hey, thanks so much for taking time to reply :)
Yes, I stand corrected - the items under discussion are "prologues" and/or supplementary materials. I guess in my old school perspective, and if in a future DC or special version, these scenes do eventually get inserted, then they would be at that point "deleted scenes" wouldn't they? Ah, semantics - what a wonderfully pointless thing, especially on the net. :D ;)
Your key point, which I do happen to agree with, is that the "best" films do generally need to stand on their own. Further, excellent point about about supplemental materials and their role in films - they shouldn't be crutches. Citizen Kane stands on its own, The Godfather, Shawshank Redemption...on and on, most all of the classic films in cinema history have been deemed classics despite the fact that they contain or offer no additional stuff. This fashion of "director's cuts" and reams of supplementary materials really originated over the last 20+ years or so, in many cases as pure marketing ploys [e.g., "you love the movie! now get the DVD / BD to get even more extra stuff!"] - that's totally cool as an option and I love that stuff as well.
In the case of A:C, my opinion stands and is generally similar to your reaction here on your video - I have now seen A:C three times and absolutely feel that almost all of the "prologue" / extra scenes would have mitigated, to varying degrees, the thematic and characterization issues I had with the movie.
Technically, Scott has done a typically amazing job, no question. Visuals are spectacular, the creature effects and horror elements largely are terrific, the audio is equally great and the pacing pretty good for a three act film.
But I have said this on other posts - A:C to me was like an exquisitely prepared 3 Michelin star meal that comes with portions fit for a child...I just wanted a wee bit more. :)
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Absolutely Joe! 😀
I believe, the reason behind cutting David and Dr. Shaw Scene (in the ship) is to establish this movies not as sequel of Prometheus. as we know director of the movie has already said that Prometheus was a mistake.
But the movie is just like its other part just characters and locations were different. very disappointed because I saw prometheus many times and its sequel was awaited.
It is a shame that they didn't use a character like Elizabeth Shaw in a proper way. In my eyes she was a promising final girl. She shouldn't have been ignored in such a way.
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Perfect review! I would love a fan edit with all these scenes. Loved watching this movie on opening day
Great video new to the page subscribed and I really wish they would of chosen to use these scenes I saw them before I went to see the movie so I knew but it would of been nice for others to see them as well I don't know why he cuts so much out of his movies I will never understand that but thanks for the great video and the merch looks really cool can't wait to find out who the lucky fan is! 👍 keep up the good work!
Hopefully when this come out on Blu Ray, Ridley Scott would put these scenes in order. I don't know why Fox has done this.
I saw the film last night and enjoyed it. Sure, it wasn't perfect and yes we didn't get to know the crew before they were picked off but I enjoyed it. The additional scenes do make a difference but then the first act of the film would be slow if they were in the cinema cut. I would just like to know if Elizabeth died naturally before David started experimenting on her. Hopefully we will get the answer in Alien Awakens
Well I think he killed her coz when Walther confronts him about it, saying literally: "You killed her" David doesnt dispute that and it looks like he tacitly confirms the statement..... And besides, David is a sick fuck :D
it's not perfect cus there were so many questions unanswered and that's why i think it's so good. cus you need to find the bits and pieces and put them together you'd realize .. WOW
"I'm just burning up" "Who's going to lead us in our TOAST?" Nice foreshadowing there.
One of the best breakdowns out thank you
So we have to trade Shaw, who was a unique, really cool female protagonist, for Daniels, who isn't terrible, but is basically a Ripley knock-off.
Thanks, Ridley Scott.
Thewhitequeen0 well she'll be dead probably before or at the beginning of awakening anyway. don't get attached
Ripley was way smarter than Daniels...
I hope she is alive in Awakening where David shows off his engineered xenomorphs after he experimented on some settlers from cryosleep and wakes her up after some 10+ years!
I hope they will apear in the Director's Cut version. :)
I loved the movie and would definitely like to see the director's cut with all the deleted scenes! I hope the next movie explains how Shaw died. David is still my favorite character, even if he turned out to be a twisted psycho.
Even though the movie was 2 hours, it felt like so much was missing. You are correct it was very difficult to connect to the characters. I hope they release an extended cut with all of these missing scenes. Thank you for this video.
AGREED. That scene - even for just 30 seconds with David and Shaw was powerful and missed in the final cut
This movie died when Shaw died.
So... before the movie started?
I like it... I'm not the kind of guy that hates on a movie just because some character did not appear as people were expecting.
What about Walter! is he dead?
Norbert Rivera probably
Just like Newt and Hicks in Alien 3. Still loved both Covenant and Alien 3.
I seen the movie and love it. I think the Movie highlights the struggle of, Man against Machine. Good against Bad, and I think Walter will be in the next movie as the hero, and David as the villain. I can't wait to see if?
Walter is dead mane
I think he's been malfunctioning for awhile. In Prometheus he watched a lot of movie and I think that when it happen.
You're talking about David right? David was on the Prometheus, Walter was created after David
lol yeah i was talking about David. Bad robot. Walter good robot. lol
He could still be alive
So sad they throw out all of the character development moments. All the characters were paper thin and forgettable. The only character that had anything interesting going for them was David and Walter. The whole movie was boring besides the back bursting scene with Danny McBride's wife.
It's a shame this movie's story was so poorly made.
Charles Burrows I don't mind the character moments but killing off screen Shaw and the entire engineer civilization? seriously?? wtf Ridley Scott!!
Agreed I was really hopping that they would bring back Shaw in the movie. She was a really bright spot in Prometheus
Christian Mikhael agreed, she could have developed as Ripley in the old movies
Danny mc brides wife was one who locked that chick in quarantine with her fella watched her die went in slipped up run out then blew whole ship up lol
I knew the Alien "series" would be huge when I picked up a Heavy Metal magazine in the 70's. That was the first place I heard about Alien, I just never knew it would continue to draw audiences to this day!
Alien: Covenant is a movie that grabs you tightly and never lets go. It brings back that sense of fear and claustrophobia that was present in the first film, and ends up being a truly satisfying prequel to the alien films. Ridley Scott returns to his "baby" that is the Alien franchise in such an exhilarating way that it is hard to ever look away from the screen. With a fascinating story exploring the ideas of AI against human condition, Alien: Covenant doesn't just end up being a great Alien movie, it ends up being both a great science fiction movie and an intense psychological thriller. The acting in this movie was terrific, with the stand out being Michael Fassbender. As one of the best parts of this movie, Fassbender returns as not only one but two characters, showcasing his range as a masterclass actor. With creature effects that are horrifying but surprisingly beautiful to look at, the aliens are a true force to be reckoned with, making for some of the scariest and goriest moments in the Alien franchise. While there may be a large amount of questions unanswered by the end of the movie, those are put aside for an ending that changes the Alien movies forever. Overall, Alien: Covenant is a movie that reinvigorates the franchise and is a warm welcome for science fiction and horror fans alike.
Where is it written a movie has to be only 2 hours long. I wouldn't have minded sitting in the movie another 45 minutes learning more about David and Shaws journey. What and how David was experimenting with the black goo , the creation of the protomorph and the eggs. Too many missing pieces of the puzzle in Covenant that probably won't be explained in Awakening. 4 stars out of 10. 👎🏽
I am Lucero I agree, if Star Wars and Lord of the Ring are 3 hrs long, why can't Alien be 2 and a half hrs long or more??? At least would be better story telling than this rushed BS.
movies are usually cut to fit the 2 hour length so that theatres can fit in more rounds of screening per day.
and yes i agree with you....probably get more plot from the trailers than the movie itself
brinquedo that makes sense, but still incredibly dumb!
out of 10? jesus, why not 20 or 30.
I liked the movie but it could definitively be one hour longer to explore more things
It does phase me to think about where the alien queen came from. If David directly created the xenomorph, where did the queen come from?
Mineitup he not finish yet
The queen is a James Cameron Creation, Very likely Riddley will Retcon it.
David didnt create anything,much like any scientist,he experimented with the black goo,a creation of the engineers,he fiddled and put the goo on various organic forms,he simply took the goo and started to mess with it,he did not create the Xenomorph,the black goo did.
i Don't think it's a stretch to say in order for the species to survive on it's own a queen evolved
Easy-Mother Russia; look at their Drago monster lol
they blew it total waste of shaw and the engineers
piccolo1906 I agree. I was looking forward to shaw's mission but then they newt us by killing her off. She was the only character I enjoyed and to find out that she was not only killed but butcher was fucking annoying.
Shaw was too nice and trusting she should have never trusted David he was up to his own agenda from the beginning... I would have never put David's head back on until we got where we were going... And I would not have taken that goo with me because going to sleep and leave things in David's hands after hearing him make the statement about "sometimes you have to destroy in order to create", was not a good idea... he could have easily recalculated that ship and headed for earth is what I think he wanted in the first place...
They are making a movie inbetween Covenant and Prometheus so who knows
April R Turner thank you, people act so mad she died at David's hands, it's like they are stupidly forgetting he killed her boyfriend with the Pathogen in Prometheus without a tinge of guilt. He didn't care about humans, his motivation in that regard was clear in Prometheus & Covenant, people who can't see that are being willfully ignorant...
each time I watch the movie I like it more...which was also what happened with Prometheus. Thanks for sharing on the deleted scenes...sincerely wish that they'd been included, esp the link between the end of Prometheus, and how Shaw and David got to the next planet...that definately made so much more sense!
I wish there was a special edition with some of these scenes restored, would have made movie even better IMO. Great reviews on this channel please keep it up 😉
Alien covenant or how to be a bipolar robot
Right! Lol
Bipolar, or psychopathic? David seems neither manic nor depressive, just deceptive and devoid of compassion towards humans. Then again, he is not human.
They literally should have kept everything that they deleted. Whoever was in charge of that needs to be fired and never allowed to touch any media again.
Meh, it was okay. But the story felt rushed and lacking.
The captain says "I'm burning up" right before he goes to sleep and wakes up on fire.
What a play.
By making the characters more relate-able, it enhances the viewer's experience. Directors forget just how great a movie is when it's deep.
the original captain jamesup francos character says "im burning up" before he goes into cryo and then does just that.
oh you just said that.
Just saw the movie. I think it's disappointing that David killed Shaw and had her on a table dissected . I thought it was a cheap and lazy approach. It would have been better if he had turned her into a queen. Lastly I can't help , but feel that having David as the creator of the alien it has reduced the mystique of the alien.
This film was entirely based on one of the worst lines in Prometheus. David: "Doesn't everyone want to kill their parents?" The 'kill all humans' bullshit is so old.
j Cortes I totally agree!
I like that idea about David turning Shaw into a queen.
It would be stupid if he turned her into a queen alien. Like how tf he manage to do that?
But totally agreed with you, they just made the xeno less interesting to think that the creepy Monster was created by an android... like.....
The entire movie was stupid so shaw being a queen would fit right in. How about that bit when the little baby alien stood up and stretched his arms out at David? Pretty fkn stupid.
loooved the movie! Watching it again today for the second time!! =)
Great video, very interesting to see additional footage that never made it. I def think the last supper would've been a good addition to the movie to have that character background.
Nice video. I hope all of the deleted scenes make it into an extended bluray/digital version. I would have appreciated those scenes in the movie even though it made the cut time above 2h.
i really liked the movie but finding out that the xenomorph was indirectly created by humanity kind of breaks all the mystery and enigma surrounding the alien myth :/
Evil Neo I felt shafted about that. I actually preferred the vague knowledge concerning xenomorphs and where they came from back in the day. Not knowing upped the ante.
+9thNinja totally! Not so alien after all. They should have kept it a secret.
9thNinja and now with the engineer genocide no one to give answers!! this was another hicks, bishop, newt thanks but no thanks moment
The creature existed way before David according to the fresque in Prometheus amd the fossilised Space Jockey in Alien... one doesn't stop the other... The black goo lead to the creature. So David create another type of Eggs, Facehugger and Xeno to me it's that simple.
But saying that I can't wait to see Ridley make his own Star Wars Prelogy and disapointed people with improvised script that retcon and modify the good ideas of Alien, it's interesting and fascinating at the ssme time lol (and I'm dead serious) : )
I've read that the space jockey in Alien maybe David himself!
We gotta face the music ladies and gents... the movie just wasn't what we hoped it would be. The series is flopped like a fish out of chest cavity... I mean water.
I enjoyed Prometheus more
Fassbender playing such different characters must have been so much fun on set!
I wish some of the deleted scenes were added. James Franco and the couple's interacting was funny and heartfelt!
I loved the movie, but I admit it had some pretty large flaws. It made Prometheus pretty much irrelevant. But. Still a great movie.
The movie was SOOOOOOO .....disappointing..!! I nearly to cry whene i was leaving the cinema... The movie has nothing to do with the prometheus sequel of the film... THE ONLY GOOD PART IS THE PROLOGE RERESE PART kai at the actual film the destroying scene of the enginiers...
I has expectiing the film to continiou where was prometheus left.... To see paradise planet and again Elizabeth Shaw playinh the leading role.. only the fact that shes not playing at the film is a TOTAL TURN OFF!!!! WE LOVED HER CHARACTER AND PLAYING AS ACTOR... FIND A WAY TO BRING HER BACK TO THE FILM... SAY THAT THE ALIEN COVENANT WAS A DREAM STORY....
groony30 Sweet Jesus use a spellchecker lol
groony30 I agree
I nearly to cry whene i was reading your comment!😂😂
Oh, come on. Scott always was the master of director's cut. This film wont be any different. And I am pretty sure all these prologues we have seen so far are part of the fan marketing. Or maybe director's experiment how to play with fan audience via youtube. Can't wait to lay my hands on director's cut. Reckon there will be a lot.
Love these breakdowns.
Glad you cleared up the possibility of why David killed the engineers and also when he used shaws body
I'm sorry but just the line where the captain said "I'm burning up"before he went to sleep is so ironic as he got burnt to a crisp in the pod when they were waking up loll 😂😂😂😂😢😢 #foreshadowing #spoileralert
Terrible editing choices in this film, bewildering actually.
As usual Ridley Scott manages to ruin another movie with his indecision and stubborness..
good breakdown of the clips :3
Massive respect for an excellent essay on the deleted scenes. The high quality of these articles makes me wonder if they will in time play a significant roll in future movie production. Let us hope they replace the outrageous and discredited test screenings.
I feel it is sad how the real story of space... the huge deal of colonization... ends up on the cutting room floor.
(Does current pro-editing software actually have a 'floor' folder? it's been a decade for me.)
True fans of space don't need 'drama' and 'monsters' to keep them interested. When you are a fan of archeology as I am, people get their rock off over the smallest details. A single embryo would captivate generations of scientists. Yet the movie has so much more on offer.
Imagine a cinematic experience that just had explorers dealing with the dead engineers in all their Pompain glory. What the fuck happened here??? Wow. Imagine a full scale art instillation of that arena in the middle of nowhere. Frozen death on a geological scale. In the movie it is just a back drop... but... WOW.