Facing South Florida: Parkland Shooter Sentencing Trial Verdict
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2022
- Jim goes one-on-one with Fred Guttenberg about the jury's verdict of life in prison with no parole for the Parkland shooter. Guttenberg's daughter Jaime, was one of the 17 victims.
Guest: Fred Guttenberg/JAIME'S FATHER
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The juror who voted no had more empathy for the shooter than the victims and the parents. I bet that if it were his/her child who was killed by this shooter, he/she would have voted death penalty no question.
He probably would - as would I - but that doesn't mean he'd be right
So agree!!
Three voted for life not one.
Three jurors voted “no;” and two of those three voted “yes” in the first round of voting.
Seems like too many people either need a civics lesson, haven’t seen the classic film “12 Angry Men,” or both.
Dan stop being a liar and making stuff up. Four were undecided in the first round of voting with others voting for life and death. And why does this matter? The final vote was three for life and the rest for death. It only takes one vote for life to remove the death penalty. They didn't need to convince anyone for life or death. It's their individual decision. It wasn't a vote to find him guilty or not guilty where all jurors needed to agree.
I love this father and his strength and honesty.
The sad thing is that wonderful teacher Nicolas had in eighth grade tried so hard to document his behaviors and reached out to administrators knowing he was a threat in the school. It’s sad because nothing was done. The warning signs was there. I’m a teacher and there are students who are struggling. I feel the school didn’t take enough action and the FBI knew about his plan. Heartbreaking! My daughter was in ninth grade when these shootings occurred. It could have been my daughter! My heart breaks for these families!!!
that teacher was amazing and she KNEW
@@mritzs5142 I was so impressed as I am a teacher also, the kind of documentation and records she kept! Sadly, nobody listened to her concerns and realized the severity of what she observed!! Very heart breaking!
It’s sad for him but that doesn’t mean that he had to kill a lot of people. But I kinda feel bad for him bc I know that it was a demon that possessed him at that time.
The FBI knew!?!
@@stephguz l can hardly believe you thought it appropriate to post such unnecessary and hurtful comments. If you feel that way towards the families it would be useful to keep it to yourself. Your cruel words serve no purpose for these broken people. None of us have the right to speak negatively toward them as they have endured a unique and extremely horrific situation. I find your sympathy toward a murderer shameful.
I just realised who posted this. I should have known 😪. It is your very particular opinions that are truly scary.
Jaime and Gina had volunteered together and in the same photo together not long before being killed…heart wrenching. rest in peace, sweet girls.
He is a good father. God bless him.
Weird. You don’t know him
All I know is this father wanted Nickolas Cruz dead... I would have voted for that one to happen?, I wanted to feel the pain for what he has he has killed 17 people and their pain
@Michelle Norris lol ok
Totally support you and all the families! God bless each of you!
When he said it was pouring (outside), I imagined that it was the tears from the victims above.
That was corny
This is simply devastating. Everything he said is so true. So well said. So sorry to all the families. The system is very broken and very flawed.
If I were those families…I wouldn’t pay another dime of taxes to that state - I would be gone. But, not until I sue NC estate, his adopted families, everyone’s.
This is heartbreaking
It really is eh.
If it’s any small help, please know that my prayers are with all of you! Jamie will always be with you. My son died in 2017; always will be there. God Bless all of you 🙏🙏💕💕🇨🇦
God bless you too 💙
❤🙏
I’m sorry for your loss.
Although it directly affected the families it also sent after shocks and raw emotions throughout the community
That father lost SO MUCH weight. Poor man 😢
My heart goes out to all these wonderful families. I never expected this sad outcome, I'm really sorry. The State was absolutely phenomenal and professional in every way. They must be so devastated too. God Bless you all.
this case has forever changed me. politically. And emotionally. i have been following it for the entire time. I was a liberal. no longer. The death penalty is there for a reason . And if there was ever a reason. this was it. the jurors do not take in account of the pain of the families. I sincerely hope the monster goes directly into general population. He has been coddled, protected, enough.
I get it. I am generally against the death penalty. But, when there are rare cases that are so heinous AND there is no doubt of who committed them, then the death penalty should be given, if that's what the parents/familes/friends want.
I think the jurors were told not to take into account their victim impact statememts is absolutely ignorant.
You’re clearly not fit for politics. You see the jury doesn’t make their decision based on emotions because it’s literally their jobs to be unbiased. Justice is not to kill people. The death penalty is slowly being outlawed. If ever there was a time to use it. This wasn’t it. You’re too emotional. You’ve become obsessed. The jury did it’s job by enforcing the law while at the same time protecting the rights of the defendant, who clearly suffers from mental illness.
I agree. Mental health issues are common in today's society
They are used to often as an excuse
I have to be accountable and grew up in super crazy family.
His plan was taken seriously and he new all his moves. Why what where and how.
I guess all his syndromes out weighs is mission to massacre brutally.
What he did and what he got life does not make sense.
JUSTICE WAS DISREGARD and respect.
Yes this is a whirlwind to all Americans who believe in justice.
You watch this case everyday queasy stomach. Because this is just not JUSTICE
@@dawnatkinson7704
Impact statements are not evidence.
YES, YES and YES. Those three jurrors have blood on their hands.
Does anyone know or think that's a photo of Jaime in the photo of a dancer behind him? It's stunning. I read her words too on the orange banner behind her father and she just sounds like a caring, intelligent young woman. I've been following this trial for months and months and my heart breaks more than words can say for these families and victims. The shooter is one of the most horrific people I have heard from, especially from such a young age (age 4 or earlier he was showing signs of cruel violence towards animals). You just gotta wonder WHY people soo cruel and awful are on this earth as they only bring destruction and evil and pain. The hearts of these beautiful people, and their families, help to overshadow his disgusting evil nature and life long behavior as their love is so great. RIP Jaime and to all of the others who were targeted and murdered that day. The world's prayers and love are with you all. Meanwhile, the shooter will rot in jail and everyone prays he gets what he deserves one day. Gotta feel pretty horrible knowing the entire world hates his guts for what he did when all he apparently wanted was love and acceptance. If he's not a total failure in every way including getting what he REALLY wanted, I don't know who is. These beautiful souls have touched the world with their intelligence, kindness, talents, etc. and will love forever in our hearts.
Yes, that’s Jaime in the photo. She was a dancer.
The father doesn’t have to apologize for his feelings.
I’ll never understand the point in Florida’s death penalty if Nikolas Cruz doesn’t deserve to be on death row then who does they should release every prisoner from death row I thought Nikolas Cruz was the prime example of why there is a death row
Understand one thing...this happened in DEEP blue territory!!!
A religious leader once said! We dont steal from the thiefs, we dont rape the rapists, what gives us the right to kill a killer? I dont condone what Cruz did but im against the death penalty! People who want him dead have so much hate and will neva be happy and at peace for the rest of there livez!!!
If the jury said yes to death, you'd all be complaining about the drawn out appeals.
Just let him fade into oblivion in his little cell.
Closure is not a destination, it’s a life choice; a practice. There are fragments of closure, but existing in the present and moving forward is the only true closure that exists, independent of the type/degree of grief.
If a person believes Cruz should suffer, then they would logically prefer a long life (50-70 years) in a Florida private prison over a quick death in ten years.
Also, Cruz is likely to be isolated during his incarceration. That isolation is not sustainable for very long. Many developed nations designate this type of isolation as cruel and unusual punishment. Again, if the goal is to see Cruz suffer, death would be a release; a relief; a kindness.
Crap, man.
So sad for these family just heartbreaking this is for them.
God Bless you Sir 🙏
Put Life without parole and the DP to one side. HOW ON EARTH can someone shoot up a school kill 17 people and NOT GET THE MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT. It’s so messed up. Florida law needs to be changed period!
I can't express the sadness I feel, I wish I could write a letter to the families is there an address or a point person?
How do you get that wrong🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ they need their heads checked
hey atleast i don’t want someone to die so badly
I edited this because I want to thank our presenter Jim De Fed and will subscribe!! Mr Guttenberg You should be a news commentator! I've loved all these parents for many many month they are Kings and Queens dignity beyond reason
So sorry sir you and your family be well
protected custody probably wont be enough now to keep the monster safe, they can find ways in prison, he doesn't deserve to wake up every day while the parents children are dead, the grief will always be there, justice wasn't served
People go to prison as punishment not for punishment
The jury evidently didn’t listen to the doctor who stated he DID NOT test positive for fetal alcohol syndrome……. Were they sleeping or what?????
Life in prison and then what? He gets to live a peaceful life for the rest of his life in prison? Fk that! Let him suffer!
Ain’t nothing peaceful about life in prison. If it’s any solace to the families, he’ll likely be killed in prison. He’s a child murderer AND mass murderer. Plus, he attacked a prison guard. Ain’t no one gonna protect his azz.
I have never hated a juror more since the Casey Anthony jury……🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
The system is trash, and the jurors that voted no can go to hell with Nik....simple as that. There shouldn't have been jurors to begin with, the punishment should've just been the DP straight away
It is so sad that someone could take lives of inocent people prayers go out to families of victims and everyone who was there that day
The quote behind Fred Guttenberg "dreams and dedication are a powerful combination" does that say Jaime at the bottom?
Yeah
Yes. I believe Jaime had said that.💛
Does anyone know the story? What led to her saying that?
These poor families.
It's concerning hearing Parkland shooting victim's parents (and you'd hope not a defense attorney of Nick's of all people... for ethical reasons on top of basic decency) urging fellow inmates to harm Nicholas. There are probably far beyond the amount of inmates anyone could guess... living in significant if not downright overwhelming fear while incarcerated. This is not something to indirectly attribute too and normalize. I was glad to hear Fred say that his goal was to originally make peace with the verdict, but preferring an incarcerated death as he mentioned... isnt going to discipline peacefulness.
he sounds so bad, his daughter would be disgusted
That one f***ing juror needed more time to deliberate.
now he got life they really can't let anything happen to him in prison so he will go into protective custody to keep him alive just because someone said they think he shouldn't get the death penalty.
This was the one case for the death penalty for sure. Then maybe the shootings would slow down just a little bit but not now it's on okay to kill. My mom was shot 5 times in the middle of the street when I was 14 granted not to the degree of this. What will it take to stop the mass killings.
Swift executions right away, would help!!! Ban all AR 15s
People in a position of authority doing their jobs.
@@lumpstersmouse5471
💯 Agreed
no, mass killers don’t care whether they live or die
Jurors in death penalty cases must be willing to assign the penalty where appropriate. This case screamed for the death penalty. Having been the child of an alcoholic is nothing more than an excuse, not a significant mitigating factor. Something was very wrong with someone on that jury given the facts of this case.
Fetal alcohol syndrome is not the same as being the child of an alcoholic, it is something that has lifelong medical consequences.
@@missyyy- he has no FAS
@@missyyy- he may have it. But he wasn’t legally insane. He was fully aware of the consequences of what he was doing.
Pretty much agree with everything you have said.
One exception. First round of voting was 7 for, 1 against, and 4 undecided.
Source?
No fetal alcohol issue here! It was proven by the last psychiatrist that his IQ went up and he was even on the honor roll! So disgusting! Jamie was so beautiful and dad is not crazy-I’m glad he goes and talks to his daughter! Nope no closure.
Why can't they overturn the verdict? A juror being threatened taints the whole determination of the verdict. We should have a completely new trial with new jurors.
A lot of people do not know anything about mental illness that everyone has it that is different from each person who has it and how to deal with it is to get the person help out get it before it gets out of hand how a person feels in the mind with medication to help with the medical issues
He wont last in gen pop. Doesn't play well with others. He wont be in with people that will tolerate him. He's the most marked man in the world.
We all need to put money on that person's commissary when they provide this public service.
Jamie was so beautiful and Fred is such a good guy. Love following him on Twitter.
Sir, look up what prison "books" are and the exchange rate of dollars for ramen(soups). You will have justice and he will suffer if you do.
What about the attempted murder charges?
The system is crazy. My brothers best friend was brutally brutally murdered By is wife. The death penalty or life in prision w out parole.
The Jury felt life In prision because there was a 3yr old son. The jury felt like what if wanted to talk w a sociopath mother.
Needless to say my family and everyone who loved Jay. wanted
Justice and he was raised by his bro.
I'm confident he'll meet his end behind bars. Every convict has a little sister or a loved one a niece that one of the victims reminds him of. A man with life has nothing more to lose. Not many chances to do something good either. I'm confident someone will cut his sentence short.
But they will put him in Protection
Cruz going to prison?
Hugo Drax: Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him.
Well now advicate that a 17 year old not be allowed to buy a gun
The jury understood....except Denise Cunha....... Melody Vanoy and one more who followed.
He has no remorse
What if NC kills someone else whilst in prison. He is a very dangerous man with no empathy, doesn't feel guilty and has no regret and has never apologised for his crimes or taken responsibility for them.
He pled guilty. I think that is taking responsibility.
He apologized when he pleaded guilty.
@@KRDos_Aus that’s not
Taking responsibility. He just hoped it would spare his life
@@boomds5602 he has repeatedly said he wants to die. Pretty sure he is on suicide watch.
I saw a video of him fighting with one of the prison guards trying to get his taser to use it on him. Can’t help but think he’s going to put more people at risk.
So glad I was not a juror.
I watched the trail in its entirety and the "verdict" . My heart goes out to every person that lost their family member, friends that horrific day. Listening to Fred Guttenberg talk about this and the loss of his daughter Jaime . As I listened to the Judge read all 17 juror's verdicts I couldn't help to think, my god 17 senseless deaths', how many people have to die before the DP is imposed? I love his analogy of "closure" there never will be closure as long as we visit our daughter in the cemetery. It is a page that we turn the chapter on. I never have been a huge fan of the DP however, I am in absolute favor of abolishing solitary confinement and protecting these people. Let him face his consequences like Ted Bundy did.... I to suffer from mental illness and was raised in a violent alcohol infused home and knew and know to this day the difference between right and wrong.
Fred Guttenberg is a BAD ASS! Greater than human.
Nik will suffer period. Let anger subside.
They will do that whenever/ if ever THEY decide as they were the victims here, not others on the 'net telling them how they 'should' feel or get over it, etc. SMH
Omg why in the hell didn’t he get death? Thisis crazy what is the death sentence for if not for this? My heart breaks for these families and children justice was not done
9:27 I remember hearing that it was sad these good people died
💖😓
Can the judge overrule jurors decision at sentencing?
I don't believe so I've been watching different news outlets. I think now the judge will sentence November 1st
No. Unless there was juror misconduct they could prove.
no.
@@juliecruz8284 but they said a juror was threatened...
No
No death penalty
I’m so sorry for the in justice for your daughter and the other ones the verdict actually made my heart break into a thousand pieces the families deserve justice to start healing 🕯🕊🕯🕊🕯🕯🕊🌹🌹🌹
There is the QUESTION - WHO did the radio-hypnosis of the PSYCHOLOGY, that triggered the event?!!?
The USA Association of Psychologists and Psychiatrists do not be RESPONSIBLE for the RADIO-SYSTEM ABUSE.What does it mean?!!
The radio-wave may vibrate the air molecules as well as the radio-intercome speakers, that may carry the texts with the psychological information. The MODERN CRIME SYSTEM may use the SOCIAL ENGINEEEINH to do recruiting the news victims into the Organized CRIME bands. The radio-hypnosis is the helping to do involving into the narcotics, into the alcoholism and into the firearms and into the CHILDREN SEX. The radio-station doesn't want be responsible for those whos the radio-station did sexually castrated by the too frequent underage sexual relations or even into masturbation under the radio-hypnosis pressure. That IS NOT a testimonies, it is the RADIO-HYPNOSIS TO DEFILE AND DEMORALIZE the enemies of the state army.
Look at, the MEDICINE has it's involvement into the radio-sound-pollution harassment. It is the DEF-BLIND-MUDE medical auxiliary assistants. They do a surdo-translation of the handicaps, but....they have the radio-station that may incert into human brain the information as like the IMAGE, that the blind humans may enjoy the images. So, the modern MAFIA use the radio-station system to racketeering and EXTORT the money and property from the US citizens and foreign aliens. The trick is in the way to do it. The PSYCHOATRIST may design the crime develop every man his role and participation, and introduce it into memory of somebody to get crime done and prosecuting - kill that somebody for his-hers foolness to obey the radio-station texts, and after setup - they get covered. The warrants and rewards got paid from the state budget.
Look at, the Parkland Auxiliary Needs School may teach the mentally tetarded boys and girls the basic Math, but .... mostly, the people are mentally sane. and the IDLE psychologists and Psychiatrists GOT NO JOBS. To be not discharged from their jobs positions, they are looking to do the Nation Security job of police...
Do you know what the reaction of the NORMAL ANIMAL on the chronical disturbing and harassment?!! eventually, the man might get the weapon and shoot everybody, because he cannot find the main HARASSMNET MAN - THE RADIO-HYPNOSIS STATION OPERATOR and his boss - the psychiatrist.
Think about IF HE RETARDED BY SELF or he had plain need to do felony for his own self-emproovement.
So it was 9-3, not 11-1 like prosecution claims...
3 LibTard Democrats aka Joe Biden voters.
Initially it was 11-1. But the 1 convinced 2 others.
No one convinced anyone. Why are people like you so into conspiracies and falsehoods. Weird!
@@soupnfresh that’s literally what the jury foreman said. It’s not a conspiracy theory
@@micchaelsanders6286
Wrong. The first vote had 7 jurors voting for DP, 1 juror voted no, and 4 were undecided.
I wish the state could Appel
Can they appeal?
@@splinterbyrd no. And we wouldn't want them to regardless of our feelings about the verdict.
@@sarayoung9395 who is ‘we’?
@@boomds5602 Anyone who supports the double jeopardy clause of the constitution.
@@sarayoung9395 This is why other prosecutors in other jurisdiction only charge the person with some of the counts. They should have held some back. Another jury, another day, another outcome.
Tons of people have mental illness and shitty childhoods. I guess this means no accountability.
Of course he new every move he made.
Bullshit.
Peace and ❤️
😞😞😞😞😞
cope and seethe in your anger
🙏🙏
As long as killer is alive, they should make that juryer pay for every day he's alive!
Do you mean all 3 jurors who voted life?
you sound so bitter, get help
Shocking result, but the state did an excellent job, so no shame there, all the shame is on those 3 jurors.
I bet the jury wanted the victim’s families to suffer even more
why? think, use your brain
they have a brain that functions better than yours, you have no independent thought process
@@ihateu444 Because they prioritize Cruz’s rights over others.
@@Lilothestitch they really don’t
@@Lilothestitch it’s not like they’re freeing him
The hatred directed at the young killer by the public is, as Oscar Wilde might have remarked, the rage of Caliban seeing his own face in the mirror
I'm unimpressed by a husband and father calling for the killer to be murdered by other prisoners.
Does he not realise it's that sort of mindset that brings about this sort of thing in the first place?
I know this is about where your values lie, but you mustn't forget: the guy he's talking about killed his kid and a bunch of others in a COLD and PLANNED manner. A case like this is about future prevention and emotions. The victims families want closure, and it didn't happen.
@@ajw1045 Did you miss the part where the guy said "there's no such thing as closure"? You're talking about what the guy in the video just said but you didn't even pay attention to what the guy said.
That makes no sense, that his mindset will bring what sort of thing? Are you assuming his mindset will commit violent crimes. I’m so tired of hearing pointless excerpts from Oscar Wilde, Ghandi or whomever else. People of this generation have gone soft, soft on criminals. Guess what every mass murderer has some sort of mental illness. Yea let’s spare that scum because it’s “not right” to kill and give the parents endless more grief.
No actually it’s not. These people did nothing to Nicholas Cruz
Circle back when it's your kid.
Killing another doesn’t change anything I wish you the best in your grieving process ❤🙏🇨🇦
Keep your warped liberal thoughts to yourself
when you've gone through what they've gone through, then people may care about this opinion that's out there. No one has any idea of the suffering they feel so they are right to feel angry.
This is horrible. 3 jurors didn’t take in all the facts in this. They lied about being death penalty ready
They were in court and met the killer in person, and I guess they know things you do not
Couldn't the jurors who voted for death lied and already had their mind made up? It goes both ways. It's not a fair accusation without solid evidence.
You lie!
@@splinterbyrd yea they say even more of the evil than we did
And how many of them went in knowing that they would vote DP. That door swings both ways.
3 Jurors decided poor little Hitler never had a chance because everybody else twisted his arm and and pressed his finger to fire the submachine gun.
This PARENT is a TERRIBLE advocate for the death penalty. Lol. He is so hungry for vengeance, but he won't do it himself and hopes some prisoners do it.
How can he do anything to Cruz? He’s not in prison.
@@rizzomatt He was just at the trial for several weeks where he could have pulled a stunt. People DO try to leap the bar and beat the living **it out of someone. He didn't try to do anything except go on TV (with suspiciously good speaking skills) and do the "tough guy" act by attacking jury members and public defenders. He hopes another prisoner will get revenge for him lol. That's like saying "my dad is gonna beat you up!"
@@theloanranger2632 That’s the best you’ve got? It is so rare for someone to jump over the bar and attack a defendant. Also, you’re criticizing this guy for feeling that way? Walk a mile in his shoes and then let me know how you feel. I was a public defender so I know what it’s like for everyone in the courtroom to hate your guts.
@@rizzomatt Thank you for speaking up! Sooo tired of those hypocrites telling the parents how to feel or not feel. Ughhh. Thank you again.
@@rizzomatt What do you mean "the best I've got"? I gave you an example of something that actually happens and has a plausible rate of success. The best _you_ got is "think about his feelings and his shoes!" Great argument, Mr. Lawman. Thank goodness you're in the private sector now where the public is spared. But yes, he is entitled to his feelings but when he's attacking individual jurors and lawyers because they did not give him his bloodlust vengeance and then lazily hopes that a prisoner does it for him when he had every opportunity to try himself, he's lost the plot.
Life is way better then death he’s going to get extorted and punked so baddd he will be someone’s girl 100% I promise you that.
Being someone's girl isn't so bad, I know for experience.
While tragic beyond belief, I am not surprised. The trial took place in the hypocrite state of Florida, where the right to life is trumped by the 2nd Amendment. Unless people with serious mental problems can be involuntarily locked up for their own protection and the protection of society, and receive treatment, the country will continue suffering the loss of our children and young adults. As a Florida Sheriff recently asked, when have you heard of a sane person committing mass murder? Once a person with dangerous mental problems invokes their 2nd Amendment "right" to buy military style firearms and large quantities of ammunition, it is too late for the mental health treatment or any argument relating to mental health in court.
Take him to Guantánamo Bay, strip him naked, lock him in an outdoor cage, and give him neither food nor water, nothing except the thoughts and prayers of the three jurors for the rest of his life! Show the world how effective and useful thoughts and prayers really are!
I am so sorry for all losses and spira
Affects you all live with.. I watched the whole cae and when I Hurd yes
to all the counts. I thought how can get life in prision.
My 1st thought was something is not right w that Jury. I am sorry.
The state did a great job and the judge.
I do hope this gets overturned.
I know it may be longer to find out.
But justice is needs to be served.
It will not be overturned.
Sir and to all the parents of lost children he will probably be on death row the 15 to 20 years if he was given the death penalty better love growing old and dying in prison what prison is Hell on Earth he's never going to get out until he dies I know he will be in hell for eternity that's his eternal punishment for what he did to your children and teachers
The traitor
The hypocrisy of advocating for and rejoicing over the notion of a convicted murderer murdering another convicted murderer.
when it's your kid you may understand but none of us know what they've gone through.
@@HereComesKarma there are other members of families in this tragedy that are relieved at the life sentence rather than death. Notice how they’re not getting airtime? It’s not popular if you don’t seek vengeance. This guy says he’s “at peace” with the verdict….he’s not at peace if he can’t wait for Cruz to be murdered by an inmate. I feel for the families, but the amount of bloodthirst going on is not good for them or society as a whole.
Sue the jury
4:56 How indeed? 23+ other states in our nation, plus most of the western world has abolished the dp. We have more in common with China than we do Europe in how we treat people. The dp should be shelved with all the other barbaric remnants of our past.
Come on y’all.. time to put this behind and move on and heal in some kinda way.. nothing will bring anyone back even killing the killer.. y’all thought 1 juror just did it and it was 3 that said NO! That’s Justice.. god has the final say.. death was to easy anyway.. that’s what he wanted!!! (He also wanted all this tv time!!!) RIP to y’all’s families!!🤍
when you've experienced what they have, then your 'advice' may be valid. It's not atm as it wasn't you who was directly affected.
@@HereComesKarma my brother had a freak accident when he was 21 and died… One thing I do know is that he would not want us to be here and hate the person that built the house wrong or spend our lives crying over it.. I also know that justice was served.. may not be the way y’all wanted it but it was.. he will never walk around free like they think he is in jail.. that kid is already dead inside and putting him to sleep so peacefully would have made his day.. MOVE AND AND STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS MENTAL KILLER!!!!!!
@@HereComesKarma your name is karma do you not believe in it cause it’s real!!!!
Your children in heaven want you to stop your anger
How would you know?
Stop talking trash. And as per your beliefs most of those kids in the other place.
say that when it's your child and stop the preaching already. U have no idea.
@@MrEssedis what are you talking about, 'most kids'? NC is definitely going there to stay forever though.
If you truly believe in God, you will know that He alone can judge not a broken system. Mental illness is the issue here.
Cruz did not have mental illness. He had a personality disorder
The juiors didn't of the family's it wañt therfore s one that die s he got off easy the monster
To the media: Please ask for stories about Jaime. Though nothing will bring Jaime back through those stories we can get to know who Jaime was. Jaime needs to be remembered for the person that she was and not just a victim. Remembering who Jaime was, she can still impact this world in a positive way. Please help keep the memory of Jaime and the other 16 beautiful souls alive!❤🎈🙏
It comes down to how the jurors see the evidence. For the death penalty it HAS to be UNANOMOUS. And each juror must have NOT ONE SHRED of doubt. If they have doubt they cant vote the death penalty. We may not like the verdict but we have to honor it. Period
no we don't. They have a right to be angry and for real justice. Period.
This is justice
I wanted to personally stop by and validate you. It’s lonely out here for the intellectually honest.
when it's your child, your advice will be listened to. It didn't happen to you so you'll never know what THEY see as justice. Be respectful.
@@HereComesKarma You’re mistaking submissive for respectful. There are other ways to find justice other than YOUR DESIRE to burn someone at the stake. There’s a reason they don’t put the family of the victims on the jury.
@@HereComesKarma This is lawful justice and it’s our constitution protecting the rights of EVERYONE not just the people wronged. You call it a mistake but in the eyes of our constitution this was justice. In fact I do know what it’s like not that you’d understand making the right decision over making the decision that feels good. Go on sharpen your pitchfork. Uncivilized jackwad.
@@HereComesKarma Besides… it’s their child and their advice isn’t being listened to. Thank god for that too. You guess would see us go back to the days when absolutely anyone accused of a crime were hung with no defense of any kind.
the priscription in those glasses are strong hes blind as hell😂
So is your English 😭😭😭
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his suit dosnt fit him, he looks like a dwarf in a large suit lmao
WELCOME TO BIDEN WORLD~!!!!!!!
??? Biden didn’t influence those Jurors, was he there? There have been lots of DP cases where the criminal gets life instead of what they deserve, no matter who’s the President.
Trump was in office when the Parkland shooting happened, and other school was that year, so I guess it’s his fault there wasn’t better security and gun laws. 😐
What? The shooting happened when Trump was president. Read a book!
What’s this got to do with Biden?
@@boomds5602 It’s almost election season. You know some Republicans are Bat Sh/t crazy over their party and literally try to put politics into EVERY conversation! It’s just ignorance at its best. 😂😂😂