HOW TO Spool Braided Line On Baitcast Reel - Tranx 400
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I’ve been wanting to get in to musky fishing but it’s hard because I don’t have the money for the gear and I don’t know what to do ?
Todays Angler
I have watched this a million times for no reason
Great vid Lee! Tight line when spooling is everything. Most shops have no idea what they're doing when spooling a reel. I wear a kevlar glove on my left hand when spooling my bait casters and especially my lever drags so that I wouldn't get burned from putting so much tension on the bulk spool.
Greetings from Canada.
Great teaching moment Lee, well done! I am about to respool my Tranx after relying on a big box "artist" for spooling with backing ,never again. I am now going to do my own. The arbor spun underneath causing multiple backlashes one upon the other reducing distance and increasing frustration. Found this problem after two years of use. Going to respool myself from now on taping the braid to the spool.
Excellent info for novices and experts alike. I'm sure most are not using these knots when spooling. Thank you Today's Angler!
Lee we've always done the boat trick at the start of every trip. You're right about pointing it at the bait. I've always used suicks because they float then when you start reeling there's good tension
Awsome display of spool 🧵 filing technique 😆! Thanks fir sharing
Loving all the content guys! Keep doing everything your doing!
Lots of excellent spooling advice. Thanks.
You are a great teacher, thanks Lee.
Thank you!
Well explained , nice job !
Excellent video thanx always wondered how u guys did that!
Thanks
Great advice and content.
i usually put a pen through the braid spool and apply tension with feet when spooling, it gets really hard on your hand but you get it really tight from the get go.
my tranx is spooled perfectly sitting on its rod right now. once the season opens im heading right up to mille lacs
Great tip!
I just bought that tranx, it came with the power handle. Paired it with an Okuma two piece telescopic slide.
Is it good for double blade bucktails?
Arbor knot for everything in my arsenal. Best spool connection knot. When running braid get a wet towel , wrap around hand with braid and crank away. Will make it super tight. And holding your line closer to bottom eye of rod, you won't need to try n hand lay it
Folks you can use a thicker towel to pinch to line as you wind also! Or get someone to hold the line spool with pencil and tell em to hold on decently tight!
Hey would you guys be up to doing a video on tying your own flouro leaders? Just got some leader line and have no idea how to tie/exactly what other material i should get
Been fishing my whole life & still found a few great & useful tips in this vid, nice.
I use a bit if mono behind my braid in order to have it grip the spool. I like the idea of being conservative like you all are being with the braid, but i only use like 10ft of mono backing lol
I do the same w all my casting reels.
I just use a bit of electrical tape and go straight Braid
What song is your intro love it and love the vids guys keep em coming
Keep up the good work guys. If your ever going to troll for big musky on the bay of GB then do your self a favor and learn the uni knot, FG knot, double uni or my favorite the alberto knot from mono to braid. If you don't have the budget to have a ton of reels and rods for specialty rods and reels. Then use any other knot then that slip knot if your going for +50 inchers. Better to be safe than sorry. One time I had my brake on my Abu reel go weak on me on a monster musky and they just about spooled me. I am sure if I would have had a slip knot it would not (knot get it) hold.
TranX for making this video 😉🤟🏽
Caleb Holmes, good one!
Good tips! I've had really bad luck with sporting-goods store people winding on line and not knowing anything about how full the spool should be (this is no surprise since most fishermen blissfully use reels that are only two-thirds full), and they have no clue how to get the line on nice and level. It's best to fill your reels yourself. I don't mean to hijack the comments, but some might find another tip to be helpful.
If you want to avoid the inconvenience of trying to guess how much line you need over your backing material, or wasting time by accidentally having too little line remaining on the store-bought spool when you load your reel the next time, try this. Load your reel with a complete spool of 150 yards of "good" line. Once that line is on the reel, fill the spool the rest of the way with cheaper line that will be the backing material after the line is REVERSED on the spool. To reverse the line, walk out across the grass playing out line as you go until it's all out. Then attach the other end to the spool and wind it up again. The spool will now be full, with your "good" line being the outermost 150 yards. Later on, when your line must be replaced because it is worn out or because too much of it is missing because of snags and trimming off damaged sections, simply pull off all the "good" line that remains, down to the knot, attach line from a new 150-yard spool, and wind all of it on for a perfectly filled reel with no wasted time and no wasted line!
It's a good idea to slightly over-fill the spool during the first phase of this since after the line is reversed, the spool MIGHT not be filled exactly the same amount as the first time since it won't pack exactly the same when the two different kinds of line are wrapped at different spool diameters than before (even so, it WILL end up being close enough to being the same unless you are ultra fussy).
Braided line is lighter than mono, so if the whole spool filled with braid, the filled spool weighs less and you get better casting performance than if you use mono backing. But even filling completely with braid, you can use this same trick just to make future line replacement less wasteful. Again, just strip the old line down to the knot and refill with a known length of the same kind of line as before.
If your line wears out or gets sun-damaged but there's still plenty left, you can reverse that last 150 yards to double the use you get out of it, saving more money (of course, you can do that if you just fill your whole spool with one continuous length of braid too, but in that case it takes longer). Edit: Now I see that Lee has already mentioned this in his replies to other comments.
For what it's worth, I load the reel using enough tension the first time so that no re-tensioning is needed. I run the line through the middle of an old phone book, often with a bit of weight on top (you can invent some similar method for adding tension since no one has phone books anymore). This way, the tension applied by squeezing the line between the fingers adds to the tension already supplied by that primary tensioning device. You still have your fingers working to provide perfectly level spooling the way Lee describes here, but while applying more tension than your fingers can provide all by themselves.
If reversing the line to put a known length on the outside part of the spool sounds like a pain, it's not. I can strip off about 350 yards of line in my tiny little backyard while walking a zig-zag pattern back and forth, laying out line as I go, and wind it up again from the other end with no tangles, ever (just be sure to not walk over the same ground twice while stripping). It's quite easy and only takes a few minutes. Also, tie the loose end to something before stripping so you don't have to hunt for it later! One more tip: When stripping line, run the line only through the first guide on your rod so you can easily pull it with your free hand.
I hardly use any backing. Probably should use more but I use 2 or 3 spool rotations then uni to uni my braid to the mono
You can also put electrical tape on the spool so you can run straight braid. I usually do that sometimes.
We did give that tip. Thanks!
Best video
Figures I just spooled line on my new reel yesterday!
JESSE TYRRELL, sorry man. Lol
Todays Angler leting all mine line out and relling it back in to tighten it up was a great tip I didnt know about. I will be doing that!
One thing I do different is put my spool in a bucket of water, it helps contain the line and adds some tension.
Thanks for the all around great content!
I've always used my drill press in my shop with a long bit to hold the spool and i can put some tension on it.
Sure
Thats a great idea!
Hey, do you prefer blue lens or green lense costa sunglasses for pike fishing?
Just bought the Revo Toro Beast 60 wish I had this video to show the old man at bass pro shop by in Auburn hills mi! He used the machine but I'm hoping that he tied it at least through the hole on the spool I did not even think about asking him to put some tape on there I had him sport with the suffix line 80 lb hopefully he did the right thing lol he knew I was fishing muskie with that real you would think being a quote Pro Shop that they would have the knowledge to do it right. Guess I will find out when I eventually hook into one of those Lake Sinclair beauties
@Doug Mooney nah boated a few fat muskies with zero problem. More like do due diligence maintenance and everything will be fine. It's like cars take care of them they take care of you. I had tranx 400 btw broke pulling double ten cowgirl so I'll stick to Abu sorry not a Shimano guy😉
Doug Mooney The Spool and shaft Ride on 3 bearings, what youre saying is just Plain wrong...
@@zed9955 i might be wrong but doesnt the toro have a bearing in the spool tension knob AND two spool bearings? At least the smaller revos have it that way
Great tip!! I have the Tranx 301, I am not sure whether you really need the 400 size, Muskies don't pull that much line.
They dont pull much line at all but on a 300 size reel you can unload 2/3 of the line off your reel on a good cast, then you lose your retrieve speed which is key.
Mind blown Lee
I looked at the tranx 3 and 400 and it's a great reel. However, the issues with the side plate is not a isolated incident, seems like a design flaw. Plenty of iffy reviews on RUclips about that issue. Plus the drag is only 18 lbs. (I know, most will never even need 10 lbs). I fish for trophy stripers in Tennessee in brutal river conditions from the shoreline, under some massive dams and in turbulent releases. I'm boatless and at the mercy of swift water, boulders, branches and rough gravel from shoreline. I need major drag and major line capacity too. So I looked at the Daiwa prorex 400. It has almost 30 lbs of drag, the T-wing level wind system for longer casting, magnetic and centrifugal brakes. I also like the soft eva power handle better than the one on the tranx, and also i wanted the blazing fast 8.1 retrieve .also the reel is just gorgeous with the purple spool, purple adjustment knob and the t-rex eyeball logos. Daiwa hit it out of the park with this monster reel. Smooth as glass. So I got one of those instead. Nothing wrong with the tranx. Just like the prorex 400 better
Do you ever really have to change the backing on the reel? Thanks for the great videos!
No
I'm setting up my first dedicated muskie rod, going to use it to throw everything but smaller bucktails. I'm going to get an extra heavy st croix premier and I want to get a tranx, would you recommend a 400 or 500 for an all purpose reel? Thanks, love the vids
Thanks! The 400 5.8 gear ratio will work well. If you are doing a lot of bucktailing add a power handle.
Mono backing to 60lb hollow core in line splice, step spliced into 80lb hollow core, then whipped loop and cats paw knot to 18 inch steel leader
There's no need for a fancy splice, if you get that far down you're doing it wrong. As far a leader goes...personal preference.
Maybe you should put a video up?
Thanks for your video . I am not into it yet . Can you tell me if a Shimano Tekota 400 low profile A reel with 6.6 -1 line speed will work ? and will I be able to cast with this reel ?
Line counter, no. Regular...I'm not sure about the newer Tekota.
Also I’m going to be throwing the biggest size Medusa’s and posideons on st Clair so do you think it’s beefy enough
If you are gonna RIP Dussas regularly (every week) I would go Tranx 500 no doubt. Forget the Rocket and the Shimano 400B is topwater and small bucktail reel.
Veryeducational
I’m gonna get the black and blue review rocket Muskie reel and a Shimano Calcutta 400b how would you review those reels
Calcutta400 amazing reel.
Hello, is it possible to throw bait weighing 20 grams? Thank
Daiwa Lexa 400hd or tranx 500 for musky? If you had to pick one which would you buy? Thanks
I was wondering the same.
I've noticed you guys spend alot of time fishing calcuttas and tranx on your channel.
Have you guys personally spent much time using the tranx500 ?
I own calcuttas but prefer the low profile for musky fishing. I've put 3 seasons on my lexa400 and shes served her purpose, it's time to upgrade. I've used buddies tranx400s and they feel too small for me as I have pretty big hands.
The 500 is indestructible basically. We use them for big blades and ripping rubber.
400 for more average sized baits.
I'm just starting to get into musky fishing but I don't know anything about what reel to pick do you have any tips or suggestions
400 tranx hg
Great now I have to respool all my reels 😏
Lee tauchen today's angler what if you tie the braid to the hole on the spool that it's meant to be tied through is that still good will that suffice? if you're using Straight braid and you don't put tape on it?
If it has a hole that works good too.
Today's angler hey there so here we are a few months down the road and I've decided to go with a tranx 400 and I'm waiting on the telescopic 9ft 6 shock and awe. I bought 80# power pro and it's gonna need spooling here when it gets here . So with no hole on the spool should I put tape on it? Mike duche said I could back it with the mono but I'm not really concerned with saving money on the line. So just tape the spool? And tie on and reel in? What kind of tape? Thanks in advance.
Phil Carlson
I just picked up one of these. The thumb-bar seems a bit hard to push down and the reel takes a bit of effort to get it disengaged after a cast. Was yours the same way? If so, did it clear up after use? This is my first thumb bar reel and I'm coming from an ABU C3 so maybe its normal. Thanks
They are definitely harder than an Abu, and for that reason they don't wear out. 💪
@@TodaysAngler Thanks for the reply. I got to use it for the first time this weekend, its clearly a huge upgrade from my C3. The c3 will be for sucker duty only here on out. So glad I got it.
i have a shake spear baitcaster and i catch big fish with it
Does that large power handle ever spin forward and engage the drive accidentally during the cast?
Why do you think Shimano doesnt include a jigging handle with these reels. Ive seen quite a few good reels wrecked from a jigging handle engaging the gears on the cast. The 500 tranx is designed for a jigging handle, but the handle is properly weighted for that reel. Aftermarket jigging handles are an accident waiting to happen.
What Rod is that?
It’s choppy when I’m feeling down like when ur making a circle reeling and ur hand is down it stops a little bit
Do you guys ever have to repeat that last step of rewinding the line tight to the spool? I am wondering if it gets loose after casting for a month with “low pull” baits like rubber, etc...
RobertK, no. Once that base layer is tight you're all good.
Do you still have this reel im thinking about the 500 version
Yes- they are worth the money
My spool has holes in it so I shouldn’t need backing correct ?
No, but you're just wasting line by not adding backing. 100yds on a casting reel is PLENTY.
Did you save that handle you took off, I have the larger one and hate it. I'll trade ya the doorknob one for the one you took off.
I put it on another reel. The doorknob took a little getting used to but live it now.
Can i use that reel for big bucktails ?
You certainty can but a Tranx 500 is really made for it.
Tranx 400lg with the power handle is the best all around reel. Does everything i ask it too.
Yes imo. (Lee)
Key is secure spool connection.
I’m a young fisherman who got his first musky rod yesterday and want to know what a cheap but good musky reel is
Hey Sean, An Abu Garcia Ambassadeur c4 would be a great first musky reel!
How hard are you actually pinching your fingers while spooling the line Lee?? I never know how much pressure to apply
Quite hard. It needs to be tight on there.
@@TodaysAngler Ok thank you!!
Do they come in left hand crank ?
Yes, 401 model
How can I get this single Handel spear part?
www.muskyshop.com/rod-reel-accessories-trolling/shimano-tranx-300-400-power-handle/
are you guys left or right handed? I'm right handed but I cant decide which side reel I should get.
Get right, more options
Could you guys do a spinning reel/rod setup for skis?
Not for any lures that have any kind of heavier resistance, will twist your line.
Devin Mathewson I’m not trying to criticize you at all trust me I was once in the mind set that a spinning set up was great for anything and while yes they can and will do anything some techniques are just more well suited for casting gear . It’s not hard to learn either just pick up a cheap caster turn the breaks all the way up and ease them off slowly and you’ll have it in no time at all
😂 The moment i see a RUclipsr recommending 1 reel or rod the first thing that comes to my mind: oh shit I'm i guess I'm not buying that 1 anymore. If something is really good and something talks about it it becomes expensive, if is something good with good quality i know it will be expensive anyway
how about using fluorocarbon backing instead of mono?
You could but would be more expensive.
Todays Angler thanks guys, appreciate it!
400 or 500 tranx for buck tails? Have used the 500 and it is so easy, what about the 400
Normal speeds 400 is fine, burnin 10's 500 no doubt.
Thanks so much
Is that Lake Pepin in the distance?
No, Mendota.
Is it not important to touch on the direction your line is coming off the spool/onto your reel while spooling?
I am familiar with what you are referring to and I don't believe so.
Lee, have you ever caught a musky while tightening the line on your reel?
Kevin Dunse Outdoors, no but u never know?
Todays Angler haha fair enough. Would be quite the way to break in the new line!
Are you for real? having your line jumping all over the shop while spooling twist the shit outta your line.
Guys dont do this. buy a line spooler or use a pen.
Apparently not, Ben.
No put it in the grass so it will stay up the right way
That’s what you do w spinning reels to prevent twist. Also he could just spoil it up and then put a big lure out behind a boat and reel it up
Why not use back to back uni's?
Actually the FG has its place, but spooling a reel is not it. Back to back unis is probably the most used knot for this situation, even among pros.
The real advantage to using an FG knot is that it comes smoothly through the line guides, which is irrelevant when connecting backing line to main line. You should probably stick to commenting on the few things that you actually know something about.
@Doug Mooney you wouldn't use an FG in this situation. I use FG knots all the time for leaders as it's profile goes through guides beautifully but I wouldn't use it to connect backing to mainline. I'd rather have a shorter and bulkier knot than a longer and slimmer knot for this connection. Most "pros" use a modified Albright or uni to uni knot. FG is a great knot, don't get me wrong it's one everyone should know and use.
What about an arbor knot? That’s what it’s for . . .
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Why make it with such a deep spool???
Just take out the spool. LMAO
And then? Wind by hand?😂🤣
If you're only going to spool 150 yards of braid on your reel why buy a reel that holds 300 yards? Tie the braid to the spool, run the line half way across the spool, tape it and fill it up. When the line becomes worn turn it around and youll be using brand new line.
We use that size of reel for a couple reasons...one is when musky fishing we make unusually long casts and can easily unload a smaller reel on a cast. Two spool size reflects line pick-up speed which is needed for triggering muskies.
We do still reverse our line as well and can fill two reels with a 300yd spool of braid.
is there a reason why dont u do alberto knot.
We could also tie an overhand knot, simply doesn't matter musky fishing...will never get that far down.
@@TodaysAngler I c thank you, you guys have great tips
Albright or Alberto knot is better and easier to do
I’m 4 years too late on getting my reel filled with line for $5.
me too. something doesn't make a whole lot of sense is, after pulling the line really tight, after you cast that line out, there's very little tension on it from reeling it in with a bait. 😮
your mono to braid knot was incorrect but i wish you luck
Never seen a knot like that
Jason, but does it really matter? 🤔 You're never going to see the knot again until you want to replace the Braid now that the Mono is in as a backing.
I understand you’re trying to simplify things but a big fish is gonna bust that line to line connection immediately. Better to teach the correct way than the easy way in my opinion. There are a number of great line to line connections and I’m nearly 100% sure on the reels you actually fish that you use a better connection. I know it’s not as simple but a uni to uni or blood knot is worth teaching people. No reason to lose that trophy fish because of a bad connection.
Thanks for the input but you must have missed this method is for musky fisherman mainly or fish that don't make long runs. For these fish there is no need to waste braid but to simply add backing to take up space. If this demo was for salt or stripers it would be completely different.
Very poor knot to join braid to mono it would catch your line with those tag ends hanging out like that. and it is a weak knot. Just tie a crazy Alberto knot , it is ez to tie and small so no hang up.
As explained in vid this is just an easy way for MUSKY guys to add backing not to use more braid than necessary. Muskies only strip about 30 feet of line out so never get down to knot even close. Thanks for watching.
Eh that's a big connection knot... Not the biggest fan of that
Plenty of line over it. Just a simple option that a musky fisherman will never get down to.
Padding the reel helps the wallet, need all the gas money available. I dont think people take putting line on right serious enough. Done right will eliminate lots of buckwheat on a bad hair birds nest. Keep up the good flicks
Just drop your line in a bucket of water when pinching and reeling onto your rod.. No need to make a bigger job out of it than needed..
Who wants to trade handles
Tip 1. Have the shop spool it up it takes 60 seconds.
He mentions a blood knot but decides to use a poor knot to join the two lines, idk seems like a poor thing to do if your doing an instructional.
As explained blood knot would be recommended if there was ever a chance to get down that far. Musky fishing that will never happen, so we just offered a simpler approach.
A bit jealous
Informative . I like the videos , but you say the word ‘actually ‘ quite a bit lol. I do it to, but I’m trying to quit ... hahahaha I think it’s a thing from our generation
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I go straight braid, I don't want to risk having another knot in the chain.
When would a musky ever get you down that far?
I'm a pike angler by trade....
I stopped watching at 4:20 when he says you use a mono backer so you don't have to use as much braid... WRONG W R O N G W R O N G and wrong again. Braid will slip on the arbor of the spool and you won't know until a big fish tugs--- and the entire spool will just spin like the reel has close to zero drag!!! A mono backer prevents it, entirely because mono grips the arbor and. THAT is why you need to back a reel with mono.... on to the next video.
James Relyea electrical tape on the arbor under your braid will solve your problem. And wrap the braid multiple times around the arbor before tying. San Diego jam knot works well
LOL, James!
That was the most complicated way to spool a reel, just buy a line spooler for 5-10 dollar
Your fishing to big of fish hmmm duh use a real knot and less backing.
Your fising to catch monsters
Theres no musky thats going to rip 2/3s of your line out of your casting reel. The reason for more backing is to use less braid because its more expensive, and its just to fill up the spool.
This is bad advise, don’t do this, it will cost you fish
How?
Just stop
Straight braid...scratch that mono
Waste of braid for muskies, they don't run much. But we already explained that.
Splice or pr knot is the correct way to maintain the integrity of the connection. Quit deluding yourself, this video sucks and the advice is terrible
The kind of fishing that's done on typical inland lakes only takes about 50 yards of line off the spool at the most, and the fish aren't pulling much drag, so that knot will always be buried deeply within the spool where no knot strength is required. If that knot ever gets out in the open where it gets stressed by a fish, it means the fisherman was an idiot who let his reel get way too low on line before refilling it. Any easy-to-tie knot is good enough in this situation.