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I sold it pretty quick, even with very little use and being careful with it the mesh panels started developing holes. I then bought an Atom Packs MO 50. An investment but such a fantastic backpack
@stevenwhoriskey the Kakwa looks class, if it's as well put together as the Xmid you'd be safe enough 👍 your back will sweat regardless, I had the same worries but it's not something that I worry about anymore
Good no nonsense review. I grabbed one and regret it due to the compression strap issue and critically the plastic strips for the ladder adjustment chafe on my shoulder blades badly with a t-shirt on.
I have since took off the compression straps because they are useless really. I don't know why Osprey thought that they were a good idea. I hope that I don't have the same issue with chaffing but time will tell. I bought it for winter camps and backpacking trips so I haven't had it out much yet. I wonder would the Kestrel be a better option. Cheers for your comment, I'll keep a close eye on the chaffing situation
What did you think of the skimpy hip belt? It seems like if your waist is more than 34" or 36", the hip padding will be very short in length, and won't cover anything across the front of the hip and abdomen - it's like the hip pads stop abruptly at the side, and it's just bare strap fully across the front of you.
I noticed that too, there is reduced padding on the shoulder straps too. Honestly I haven't been getting along with this pack. I was between sizes and I haven't found it to be particularly comfortable, particularly on my shoulders but again that could be a sizing issue. The lightweight means that there are added compromises such as the reduced padding and even though I take good care of my gear, I have already torn the mesh on the front somehow so durability is another compromise. I'm going to stick with it for as long as I can but I feel your pain 😄
@@RamblingOn yeah that's a concern of mine - with reduced hip padding, it might not sit on the hip bones as well - which means the shoulders carry more of the weight. I tried the Exos two separate times at my local outfitter, wearing a t-shirt, and figured the "hip grip" was good, but not great. I think if I wore a jacket or a fleece the hip grip might get worse. It was very comfortable at 20lbs, but at 30lbs could tell it was getting close to it's max. Thanks for the feedback!
Respect your advice. Saved up, looking for aprox 50l pack. Currently use an old Atmos AG58, gifted too me, and not right frame size. Want get weight down where possible. I keep coming back to the Exos 48L, so would you say yep go for it, or recommend something else ??. Cheers.
I can't say for sure because there is no one bit of gear that will suit everyone. I haven't used this pack much at all yet and I do like it, it's very well made but it definitely has it's draw backs. The hipbelt pockets could be better, they're not the biggest and can be difficult to close with one hand. The compression straps are pretty much useless and because of the frame the pack curves inside so it's not the easiest backpack to pack. If you use a pack liner it is quite hard to see your gear as you pack it in. Some other options are the Gregory focal 48l which I think is even lighter. The Osprey kestrel 48, more rugged. The Alpine airzone 40:50 camino. Atom packs are supposedly fantastic and custom fit to suit you but they're twice the price. If you check out second hand packs you could find yourself a real bargain that has had minimal use. Sorry I can't give a definitive answer for you but I think if you can get a good price on the exos then it would be worth a shot. At least then if you decided to sell it on you could get your money back.
@@Northern_Rockhopper the atmos looks like a savage bag. I had an aether 70 but sold it for the exos, I just couldn't never fill the bigger bag 😄 The kestrel 48 might be worth a look or the alpine camino 35:45. 👍
To be honest I haven't had a chance to use it yet. I bought it for multi day trips and winter camps. I'd have to have used it a lot to do a proper review on it. Sorry I know this doesn't help you
I bought this new Exos 58 and also the new Exos 38 a few weeks ago. No, they make no squeaky or crunchy noises. But make sure you slide these plastic pieces up, which are sitting sideways on the frame tube, in order to get some tension on the "adjustor plates". I hope you understand what I mean. I have only one problem with the 58 model. The sternum strap creeps up unwantedly. This is not the case on the 38 one.
I own flex capacitor, somehow I want exped Lightning. But exos was also a pack I always wanted to try. I know that lack of pockets on exped Lightning would bother me..
I had to google those 😄The Exped looks very minimalistic which can be a good thing but it looks very well constructed. I would love to try an Atom Packs backpack but they are far more expensive as they are custom made in the UK
Atom packs are very expensive. now I m considering exped thunder updated version,looks very good. I wanted to ask how would osprey exos be with 15kg in it? Is it too much for it?@@RamblingOn
@@vvs3796 to be honest I don't have enough experience with the pack to answer that. I know that haze outdoors uses one for his multi day hikes. I'd imagine his loadout is 10kg, maybe more with food and water
Cracking looking pack Jason, very tempting indeed. Need a bigger bag for overnights, I've got the Talon 33 but not big enough for an overnight. Cheers for the video!
Id say it's a bag that will do a lot. I got it for multi day hikes and hopefully it will be big enough for my winter camps. The only thing I won't be doing is taking it I to the woods. If you do go for it check out trekkinn.com they seem to have really good prices on gear 👍
I had the same dilemma.. The reason I went for the Exos was for the suspended mesh back system. If the Kestrel had that same system I would have chosen the kestrel. Both are great back packs with similar features so it depends on what you want or need really. The Exos is lighter but the kestrel is more tough and robust in it's materials.
Great purchase there Jason 👍🏻 how do you rate it so far, were you able to put some miles onto it in the meantime? I read in the comments that you might have preferred the Kestrel instead. I always had the previous Exos on my list as it has thoroughly proven itself over the past few years but I didn’t realise they were coming out with an 2022 update. I can get it for €144 plus shipping but I wonder whether it’s a jack of all trades and master of none kinda pack 🤔
I haven't had it out too much yet but it will be my main pack over the winter. The kestrel looks like a great backpack, it's rugged and has more features than this as far as I remember. I would say it's not really a jack of all trades pack in comparison. It's light weight and great for long multi day treks .As far as being a jack of all trades I would say that that description suits the Kestrel better. I can't wait to put the exos through it's paces. That is a fantastic price that you found, it might be worth giving it a try and if you didn't like it I'm sure you would get your money back if you sold it on
@@RamblingOn It’s been mentioned in a few reviews that the Exos doesn’t perform all that well with lighter loads around the 10kg mark but carries heavier 15+kg loads really well. I usually roll with 7-10kg all in using a frameless pack, even on a multi day trip I wouldn’t need to pack that much extra food, simply too many Pubs, Forecourts and Corner Shops in Ireland for food on the go. Don’t think I would have any use for the Exos here in Ireland but I am playing with the idea to hike around Menorca in Spring, there it could be useful to bring as my only piece of luggage. If I ever had 15+kg for an old school overnighter for example with basha, army bivy and Defence 4, it would be all too bulky to fit the Exos and I wouldn’t walk further than 10k anyways hence I thought of it as a Jack of all trades term, not sure where this pack would fit my needs exactly but the price is too good me thinks. Now the Kestrel 58 is an interesting pack for those heavier winter camps....decisions decisions 🤔 anyways thanks for replying mate, hope you are keeping well 👍🏻
@@JammyJerry oh I didn't see those. If my pack weighed less than 10kg I would definitely fit it into my 40litre decathlon bag. My winter hikes and multi days will be around 12kgs or maybe a bit more with camera gear so it should be good for that. The price is too good to pass up 😄 Hopefully you can find a pack to suit most of your needs. The Bivy is still with the seamstress. They are having issues sourcing a zip so I'll ring them today and see what the story is.
@@RamblingOn I was simply told to source my own zipper back then, she had no idea about the kind of zip I was describing to her 😆 Back then I was thinking of a chunky and heavy duty YKK 2 way zipper. I decided against a waterproof zipper as they can be quite difficult to operate one handed, plus there’s a decent rain flap covering the zipper anyways. There’s a good choice on EBay, shouldn’t cost more than €15.
Ive got the green colour, older model Exos 48, its a brilliant pack, but after trying on the new Exos I think Osprey have made the perfect backpack ! By making the back adjustable and putting back the hip belt pockets. Only one criticism, the hip belt buckle looks a bit fragile, but nothing is perfect ! Well done Osprey. 180 euros in the 58 degrees shop. Good video !
I agree, I thought the same about that buckle but then I thought surely Osprey have tested it and wouldn't put buckles on their new pack that were going to fail.. Time will tell I suppose. It's €159 on Trekkinn.com at the moment, I've ordered from there a few times and it's always been good. Thank you very much for watching and commenting, enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍
At least with osprey you know if the buckle breaks they will just replace it no questions asked. I have the same bag and agree it feels a bit naff. Hipbelt buckle you should be able to slap on the best one possible as really, what does a heavy hipbelt buckle actually do overall? It's sitting right on your hips. I'd actually even prefer one of these super strong aircraft aluminium buckles that hook on instead of having a mechanism. They weigh even less than plastic and are much stronger. (Look at Lundhags bags)
Good review and video Jason thanks. Bought an older version used and now understand why Osprey bags sell well. Quality bag and from your review it looks very good. 😊👍
Cheers Lee.. I've always wanted one so I was delighted when I saw this version although I probably could have done the same as yourself and saved a few bob on the out going models. I would have been very happy with that pack too, they're fantastic backpacks 🙂
Your height is irrelevant as the bag is fitted depending on what length your torso is. It is best to check out Ospreys size guide to see how to measure your back correctly but to answer your question I am 187cm tall 👍
Nice review. I bought the outgoing model at a discount in the winter and I've put some good miles on it and it's great. Very comfy! I use it without the brain for reduced weight and for easier access to the main compartment. I would have liked the hipbelt pockets that they brought back with this version. It looks like the lower, side compression straps can still be routed on the inside of the pocket like the old models. The 2022 manual refers to them as insideout compression straps still.
I've always wanted an exos backpack. The older models are very well reviewed and a favourite among many so I can't imagine this one being any different. I reckon I would use it without the lid too unless I'm heading off for a winter camp and need the added space. Thanks very much for letting me know. I will look into the compression straps and see if I have overlooked something. If there is a way to redirect them I'll adjust the video so that I'm not giving bad info 👍
@@RamblingOn Hi, I am also considering buying this backpack. Can those side compression straps be redirected to the inside of the pocket? Or at least the upper half of the straps can be compressed separately? Thanks.
@@mako5708 no unfortunately not. I mentioned it in the video but if you pause it you will get a closer look at them. It's a real pity that they didn't make it possible to redirect them and the top half can't be compressed independently either
I didn't have the last version of this backpack unfortunately. The buckle feels tight when its snapped in although the buckle is light and doesn't feel very robust. Time will tell if it's robust enough
WTF is wrong with Osprey. The old Exsos was perfect, then on the newer model they took away the hip pockets and made the stretch pocket at the front less stretchy so you could fit less in it. Now the 2022 version brings back the hip pockets but takes away the redirected side load straps 🤷🏼♂️
Maybie their nothing wrong with them and listen to the review and realized the older bag was better.... They sell it as a lighweight bag... they will try to remove stuff for weight.
Hey Johny, thank you for your feedback. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to these videos. I'll be having a more relaxed approach in future which will be less stress for me and hopefully better for the viewer. Thanks again, have a good one 👍
Nah man, I thought keeping up was half the fun of the video. lol. Everyone else on YT makes long 12minute videos... this is a great format that wastes no time. Besides... if the captions worked, then you still got all the info, right? ;)
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Pay note all video makers. This is how to make a video... Straight to the point and in detail! Brilliant!!!
How is the bag holding up , is it comfortable? Can you fit your winter gear in it ? Any faults ?
I sold it pretty quick, even with very little use and being careful with it the mesh panels started developing holes. I then bought an Atom Packs MO 50. An investment but such a fantastic backpack
@@RamblingOn thank you , was actually looking at them and the durston kakwa, but I always worry about a sweaty back 😂😂😂😂,
@stevenwhoriskey the Kakwa looks class, if it's as well put together as the Xmid you'd be safe enough 👍 your back will sweat regardless, I had the same worries but it's not something that I worry about anymore
@@RamblingOn thanks Jason , keep up the great work 👍
@@stevenwhoriskey cheers, take her handy 👍
Great concise review. Thank you.
Good no nonsense review. I grabbed one and regret it due to the compression strap issue and critically the plastic strips for the ladder adjustment chafe on my shoulder blades badly with a t-shirt on.
I have since took off the compression straps because they are useless really. I don't know why Osprey thought that they were a good idea. I hope that I don't have the same issue with chaffing but time will tell. I bought it for winter camps and backpacking trips so I haven't had it out much yet. I wonder would the Kestrel be a better option. Cheers for your comment, I'll keep a close eye on the chaffing situation
Hi what raincover do you use for the exos 48. I am looking for one.
Kind regards John
Hi John, I never used a rain cover. I used an Osprey pack liner instead, which worked well.
What did you think of the skimpy hip belt? It seems like if your waist is more than 34" or 36", the hip padding will be very short in length, and won't cover anything across the front of the hip and abdomen - it's like the hip pads stop abruptly at the side, and it's just bare strap fully across the front of you.
I noticed that too, there is reduced padding on the shoulder straps too. Honestly I haven't been getting along with this pack. I was between sizes and I haven't found it to be particularly comfortable, particularly on my shoulders but again that could be a sizing issue.
The lightweight means that there are added compromises such as the reduced padding and even though I take good care of my gear, I have already torn the mesh on the front somehow so durability is another compromise.
I'm going to stick with it for as long as I can but I feel your pain 😄
@@RamblingOn yeah that's a concern of mine - with reduced hip padding, it might not sit on the hip bones as well - which means the shoulders carry more of the weight. I tried the Exos two separate times at my local outfitter, wearing a t-shirt, and figured the "hip grip" was good, but not great. I think if I wore a jacket or a fleece the hip grip might get worse. It was very comfortable at 20lbs, but at 30lbs could tell it was getting close to it's max. Thanks for the feedback!
Respect your advice. Saved up, looking for aprox 50l pack. Currently use an old Atmos AG58, gifted too me, and not right frame size. Want get weight down where possible.
I keep coming back to the Exos 48L, so would you say yep go for it, or recommend something else ??. Cheers.
I can't say for sure because there is no one bit of gear that will suit everyone. I haven't used this pack much at all yet and I do like it, it's very well made but it definitely has it's draw backs. The hipbelt pockets could be better, they're not the biggest and can be difficult to close with one hand. The compression straps are pretty much useless and because of the frame the pack curves inside so it's not the easiest backpack to pack. If you use a pack liner it is quite hard to see your gear as you pack it in.
Some other options are the Gregory focal 48l which I think is even lighter. The Osprey kestrel 48, more rugged. The Alpine airzone 40:50 camino. Atom packs are supposedly fantastic and custom fit to suit you but they're twice the price. If you check out second hand packs you could find yourself a real bargain that has had minimal use.
Sorry I can't give a definitive answer for you but I think if you can get a good price on the exos then it would be worth a shot. At least then if you decided to sell it on you could get your money back.
@@RamblingOn thank you for reply, I will go research those other packs, thanks again for your help, very appreciated
Can a large smartphone 6,7" fit in the side pockets on the hip belt?
I just checked my smartphone which is the same size and it fits inside the hip belt pockets with no issues
No sleeping bag compartment at the bottom?
No just top access to the main compartment on this one 👍
@@RamblingOn nice one mate. I have the 65 atmos at the mo looking for a lighter bag for summer.
@@Northern_Rockhopper the atmos looks like a savage bag. I had an aether 70 but sold it for the exos, I just couldn't never fill the bigger bag 😄 The kestrel 48 might be worth a look or the alpine camino 35:45. 👍
Jason, a cool looking pack with some great features and one I would go for if my Talon 44 gave up the ghost😊👍
Have you experienced any squeaky noises from the frame of the pack ?
To be honest I haven't had a chance to use it yet. I bought it for multi day trips and winter camps. I'd have to have used it a lot to do a proper review on it. Sorry I know this doesn't help you
I bought this new Exos 58 and also the new Exos 38 a few weeks ago. No, they make no squeaky or crunchy noises. But make sure you slide these plastic pieces up, which are sitting sideways on the frame tube, in order to get some tension on the "adjustor plates". I hope you understand what I mean. I have only one problem with the 58 model. The sternum strap creeps up unwantedly. This is not the case on the 38 one.
I own flex capacitor, somehow I want exped Lightning.
But exos was also a pack I always wanted to try.
I know that lack of pockets on exped Lightning would bother
me..
I had to google those 😄The Exped looks very minimalistic which can be a good thing but it looks very well constructed. I would love to try an Atom Packs backpack but they are far more expensive as they are custom made in the UK
Atom packs are very expensive.
now I m considering exped thunder updated version,looks very good.
I wanted to ask how would osprey exos be with 15kg in it? Is it too much for it?@@RamblingOn
@@vvs3796 to be honest I don't have enough experience with the pack to answer that. I know that haze outdoors uses one for his multi day hikes. I'd imagine his loadout is 10kg, maybe more with food and water
Cracking looking pack Jason, very tempting indeed. Need a bigger bag for overnights, I've got the Talon 33 but not big enough for an overnight. Cheers for the video!
Id say it's a bag that will do a lot. I got it for multi day hikes and hopefully it will be big enough for my winter camps. The only thing I won't be doing is taking it I to the woods. If you do go for it check out trekkinn.com they seem to have really good prices on gear 👍
Ah jaysus! Not another thing I have to add to the list of stuff I want! 😭
😄 the never ending list
Exos 48 or Kestrel 48?
I had the same dilemma.. The reason I went for the Exos was for the suspended mesh back system. If the Kestrel had that same system I would have chosen the kestrel. Both are great back packs with similar features so it depends on what you want or need really. The Exos is lighter but the kestrel is more tough and robust in it's materials.
Great purchase there Jason 👍🏻 how do you rate it so far, were you able to put some miles onto it in the meantime? I read in the comments that you might have preferred the Kestrel instead. I always had the previous Exos on my list as it has thoroughly proven itself over the past few years but I didn’t realise they were coming out with an 2022 update. I can get it for €144 plus shipping but I wonder whether it’s a jack of all trades and master of none kinda pack 🤔
I haven't had it out too much yet but it will be my main pack over the winter. The kestrel looks like a great backpack, it's rugged and has more features than this as far as I remember. I would say it's not really a jack of all trades pack in comparison. It's light weight and great for long multi day treks .As far as being a jack of all trades I would say that that description suits the Kestrel better.
I can't wait to put the exos through it's paces. That is a fantastic price that you found, it might be worth giving it a try and if you didn't like it I'm sure you would get your money back if you sold it on
@@RamblingOn It’s been mentioned in a few reviews that the Exos doesn’t perform all that well with lighter loads around the 10kg mark but carries heavier 15+kg loads really well. I usually roll with 7-10kg all in using a frameless pack, even on a multi day trip I wouldn’t need to pack that much extra food, simply too many Pubs, Forecourts and Corner Shops in Ireland for food on the go. Don’t think I would have any use for the Exos here in Ireland but I am playing with the idea to hike around Menorca in Spring, there it could be useful to bring as my only piece of luggage.
If I ever had 15+kg for an old school overnighter for example with basha, army bivy and Defence 4, it would be all too bulky to fit the Exos and I wouldn’t walk further than 10k anyways hence I thought of it as a Jack of all trades term, not sure where this pack would fit my needs exactly but the price is too good me thinks. Now the Kestrel 58 is an interesting pack for those heavier winter camps....decisions decisions 🤔 anyways thanks for replying mate, hope you are keeping well 👍🏻
@@JammyJerry oh I didn't see those. If my pack weighed less than 10kg I would definitely fit it into my 40litre decathlon bag. My winter hikes and multi days will be around 12kgs or maybe a bit more with camera gear so it should be good for that. The price is too good to pass up 😄 Hopefully you can find a pack to suit most of your needs.
The Bivy is still with the seamstress. They are having issues sourcing a zip so I'll ring them today and see what the story is.
@@RamblingOn I was simply told to source my own zipper back then, she had no idea about the kind of zip I was describing to her 😆 Back then I was thinking of a chunky and heavy duty YKK 2 way zipper. I decided against a waterproof zipper as they can be quite difficult to operate one handed, plus there’s a decent rain flap covering the zipper anyways. There’s a good choice on EBay, shouldn’t cost more than €15.
@@JammyJerry 😄 ah sure I had said that any zip would do the trick. I'll pop down next week and see what the craic is with it
Looks like a great pack, nice review 👍
Ive got the green colour, older model Exos 48, its a brilliant pack, but after trying on the new Exos I think Osprey have made the perfect backpack ! By making the back adjustable and putting back the hip belt pockets. Only one criticism, the hip belt buckle looks a bit fragile, but nothing is perfect ! Well done Osprey. 180 euros in the 58 degrees shop. Good video !
I agree, I thought the same about that buckle but then I thought surely Osprey have tested it and wouldn't put buckles on their new pack that were going to fail.. Time will tell I suppose. It's €159 on Trekkinn.com at the moment, I've ordered from there a few times and it's always been good. Thank you very much for watching and commenting, enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍
At least with osprey you know if the buckle breaks they will just replace it no questions asked. I have the same bag and agree it feels a bit naff. Hipbelt buckle you should be able to slap on the best one possible as really, what does a heavy hipbelt buckle actually do overall? It's sitting right on your hips. I'd actually even prefer one of these super strong aircraft aluminium buckles that hook on instead of having a mechanism. They weigh even less than plastic and are much stronger. (Look at Lundhags bags)
Nice review 👍
Good review and video Jason thanks. Bought an older version used and now understand why Osprey bags sell well. Quality bag and from your review it looks very good. 😊👍
Cheers Lee.. I've always wanted one so I was delighted when I saw this version although I probably could have done the same as yourself and saved a few bob on the out going models. I would have been very happy with that pack too, they're fantastic backpacks 🙂
hi, what is the height of the presenter?
Your height is irrelevant as the bag is fitted depending on what length your torso is. It is best to check out Ospreys size guide to see how to measure your back correctly but to answer your question I am 187cm tall 👍
it's look very big for a 48l !!
Nice review. I bought the outgoing model at a discount in the winter and I've put some good miles on it and it's great. Very comfy! I use it without the brain for reduced weight and for easier access to the main compartment. I would have liked the hipbelt pockets that they brought back with this version.
It looks like the lower, side compression straps can still be routed on the inside of the pocket like the old models. The 2022 manual refers to them as insideout compression straps still.
I've always wanted an exos backpack. The older models are very well reviewed and a favourite among many so I can't imagine this one being any different. I reckon I would use it without the lid too unless I'm heading off for a winter camp and need the added space.
Thanks very much for letting me know. I will look into the compression straps and see if I have overlooked something. If there is a way to redirect them I'll adjust the video so that I'm not giving bad info 👍
@@RamblingOn Hi, I am also considering buying this backpack. Can those side compression straps be redirected to the inside of the pocket? Or at least the upper half of the straps can be compressed separately? Thanks.
@@mako5708 no unfortunately not. I mentioned it in the video but if you pause it you will get a closer look at them. It's a real pity that they didn't make it possible to redirect them and the top half can't be compressed independently either
Hi bro, did you feel the belt buckle more "lose and weak" than the last version?
I didn't have the last version of this backpack unfortunately. The buckle feels tight when its snapped in although the buckle is light and doesn't feel very robust. Time will tell if it's robust enough
WTF is wrong with Osprey. The old Exsos was perfect, then on the newer model they took away the hip pockets and made the stretch pocket at the front less stretchy so you could fit less in it. Now the 2022 version brings back the hip pockets but takes away the redirected side load straps 🤷🏼♂️
Yep if it's not broke, don't fix it.. It is a shame that the compression straps can't be redirected. Hopefully someone might find a way to modify it 🤞
Maybie their nothing wrong with them and listen to the review and realized the older bag was better.... They sell it as a lighweight bag... they will try to remove stuff for weight.
Thank god for subtitles! Slow down....
Hey Johny, thank you for your feedback. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to these videos. I'll be having a more relaxed approach in future which will be less stress for me and hopefully better for the viewer. Thanks again, have a good one 👍
Nah man, I thought keeping up was half the fun of the video. lol. Everyone else on YT makes long 12minute videos... this is a great format that wastes no time. Besides... if the captions worked, then you still got all the info, right? ;)
2 pound 9 oz is not ultralight. Ill stick with the swd longhaul at 24 oz total.
Todo perfecto menos los nuevos colores: son horribles.