I have a Dana Design Terraplane backpack in 1996 and it’s still a great pack. In 1997 I did an epic hike across the Olympics with this pack. It was over 70 miles and half of it was with NO trail: cross country route finding. The pack was fantastic. They sold the company and then started Mystery Ranch.
Wow thats cool I didn't know that. After being in the army an seeing the special guys all running mystery ranch packs of all shapes and sizes they have been the very top of my list out of all the complains making packs
Funny they have once again sold their brand. Mystery Ranch now belongs to Yeti, and the only mystery now is how long the brand will last under new ownership
Got my hands on this pack when inventory came back last month. All I can say is this video pretty much hits all the marks on what this pack is and does. Yes, it's heavier than other packs in it's class. I had also picked up a Gregory Baltoro 65 and wanted to do a direct comparison. Just picking up each pack, you can feel the difference in weight (a little over a half pound). What is also very apparent is the reason the Bridger is heavier - it's made of more durable material. But what really stands out with the Bridger is how dang comfortable it is once you put it on. I loaded each pack with about 30 pounds of gear, on the lighter end for what I usually pack, and the Bridger was way more comfortable. It didn't feel like I was carrying that much weight. The Baltoro was nice too, but the Bridger just carries better. Wish the straps on the bottom that carry the tent were a little longer, as my current tent was barely able to fit. Although it's an older "wide" version tent, and I'm looking at getting something smaller very soon. Also, there are little velcro attachments for all of the straps, which help keep them secure once you've pulled everything tight so they aren't just flapping around. I found those to be more of a nuisance than anything, but you can remove them completely so it's a non issue. I ended up returning the Baltoro and will be keeping this one for the long run. I'm coming from a 80L pack that weighs well over a pound more than this thing, so I was going to be shedding weight regardless. Wanted to go lighter, but the comfort on this thing is too good to ignore.
A superlative review. Made better after having seen an earlier one you did comparing three backpacks. Both you and Dan Becker perform an excellent service to those of us who are even thinking about getting into backpacking. There is so much to learn, coupled with so much bad information. The two of you give clear direction on what to buy. Thank you so much!!
Neat! I love Mystery Ranch. My Glacier weighs six and a half pounds but it is so well balanced it feels so light, although its really tall. Mystery Ranch packs are pretty bullet proof. The hip belts in these packs are unsurpassed. I live in Alaska, I am 140 pounds but because its Winter mostly year around in the heaviest seasons I have a 10 pound 4 season tent, a 4 pound pad, food, a medical kit, water, toilet kit, extra undies, socks and and -20 sleeping bag. Mystery Ranch never lets me down. That well made Deuter, Osprey or Gregory I carried in the past were all great for late Spring, early summer but I need something super strong for most of the year. The pack even stands up by itself when I put it down. Awesome. Thanks for a great channel.
Hooray !, at last a Mystery Ranch user on U Tube. I have many Mystery Ranch military packs, these with my Crossfire Australia packs are my hiking equipment. The only Mystery Ranch pack i can ever remember seeing on U Tube was nailed to the gable of the hiking shop at Mt Laguna. My ethos is "If you cant hump the required load, dont do the walk". Love their packs.
Great video and great content! Really like that backpack but concerned it’s kinda on the heavy side. But I live how it opens and really think I would like the yoke! Thanks again
I use a wide variety of the Mystery Ranch military packs, i find that the pack weight becomes inconsequential once the pack is loaded with gear and on your back, its just a tiny bit of a 35 kg load. What matters is the balance and fit of the pack.
If your base weight is like 15lbs, then yeah this is too heavy for your needs. But if you plan on carrying 40lbs then a slightly heavier pack to support that load is a very good idea.
I shouldn't have watched this. Now I really want one of these! I have two Mystery Ranch packs, one of which I got nearly 20 years ago when the rep came through my town and showed off the inventory at the shop I was working for. I don't believe the owner bought any, but I sure snagged one for myself as it was clear as day that they were doing many things right in their designs. The way the pack effortlessly adjusts to a wearers back is brilliant and provides such a appropriate fit for a wide range of heights. More recently I bought a larger used one off of eBay. Its pretty bare bones for a Mystery Ranch pack. I look forward to getting some weight in it so I can see how it carries. One of my favorite things about their packs is that they aren't building everything with overly thin and flimsy fabrics trying to keep up with the ultra light trend. Light is great but I want gear that is sturdy and built to last first and foremost.
haha sorry to make you add another item to your shopping list! Yeah I love the durable nature of these packs. Just went through a slot canyon with tons of abrasion and the packs withstood it surprisingly well!
First off the list...thanks for the great video! As always very thorough! Eric, with so many comments below concerned about the 5+ pound pack weight, compared to a pack that weighs 2-3 pounds less, is it fair to say that the Bridger is more comfortable carrying 30lbs than other packs you have used or tested are at carrying 27lbs? My experience is that if a great pack carries 30lbs better and more comfortably (less work/stress on the body) than another pack carries 27lbs, who cares what it weighs empty? No one ever goes backpacking with an empty pack. Should not the emphasis be on how your body feels (comfort, wear and tear, etc.) at the end of the hike?
That yoke type strap was pioneered for backpacking packs by the founder of Six Moon Designs who needed a pack he could wear that wouldn’t aggravate a back condition. Other manufacturers are seeing the advantage of this (e.g. Zerk). It’s interesting the adjustment method for the Mystery Ranch is almost identical to the one used by Six Moon Designs.
I have a mystery ranch 2 day assault pack that I have taken through countless field training exercises and even a deployment and that thing is still kicking. Can confirm that mystery ranches are built tough. They are the only packs I trust for my military use.
I like the idea of the brain becoming a hip pack instead of another day pack, since now they make day packs that can compress down to the size of a deck of cards, a hip pack is better. I like that adjustable sizing for your back size. The fully opening pockets are great too.
Love everything about this bag. Oddly enough I cant seem to see any other good video reviews on it. Some written reviews on websites have issue with the padding on the shoulders that is it. This def. checks all the boxes for me. But I do wonder why no other sites have done reviews on this... I hate to spend 350 bucks and not like it.
Thanks! Great review! I drooled over that pack for a wile before pulling the trigger on MRs military version. Mostly because it was Barry compliant, and the Bridger wasn’t available yet. Love their products! Very well built, and like you mentioned, they are built to carry the weight. 🙏🏻
SATL 60L in a scorpion camo. I thought about the 70L metcalf, but I knew with the extra room I would just carry more weight. The versatility of the external frame was alluring though. I think I’ve made a good choice. It’s a comfortable pack, with out too many extra pockets or gadgets. Very rugged, and probably boom proof. LOL 🙏🏻
@@donnydread7631 Ah yes i have a SATL in coyote, i find it a good fit for winter day walks and summer two days. The strap under the daypack lid was obviously designed to carry an M72 LAW, but i find it will accommodate a half length thermaarest without any problem. The lid allows me to carry a full size hootchie folded up between the pack and the lid as well as the above mentioned thermarest. The two internal hydration sleeves are very useful, as i carry a two day ration of water on 2 + day hikes (8 ltrs). The radio pouch does accommodate two issue 24 hour ration packs without a struggle. I have found this pack to be comfortable and well balanced and have been using it for several years now. The hip belt has two positions to attach pouches on each side i find that invaluable for attaching a GPS pouch one side and a compass pouch the other. My only real complaint about the pack is the insufficient application of MOLLE webbing and its placement LOW on the sides of the pack. This greatly restricts what pouches i can carry on the sides and that is a real shortfall. When an E Tool pouch is fitted (all my packs have them) it sits so low that it interferes with the top of my canteen if i fit them in the sleeves on the side. Forcing me to put one canteen , cups canteen metal and hexi stove combo in the torpedo pocket in the back. Really the MOLLE should run from just above the side pocket right up to the top of the pack frame. This would allow me to fit an RFAK on the pack as well instead of it taking up scarce room inside the pack. It can be fixed though i have had a number of my MR packs modified by buying the MR tiedown straps and having them professionally sewn in as MOLLE webbing by a pack repairer this fixes the problem permanently and you cant tell that they were added later. The torpedo pockets are large enough to fit a Carinthia bivy bag without problem. What are your thoughts on the pack ? I
I’m going to use it to hike the Appalachian Trail next year, and haven’t gotten to use it much yet. I have found that I can create a day pack with the lid and shoulder straps. I’m glad that I didn’t spend the extra $100 on the MR day pack lid attachment. What other packs do you have?
Great video, thanks. Hoping to return to backpacking after a move closer to wilderness areas. My old love, the Eastern Sierras, became too onerous to reach driving from SoCal. I never was a "long trail" distance hiker, just enjoyed three or four nights out for some peace and quiet without crowds. So this pack sounds like a winner.
Eric This appears to be very similar to the ILBE gen 2 backpack. The big differences I see so far are 3). 1). Weight the ILBE weighs approx 9.5 lbs vs this pack but is a much heavier material at 720 denier fabric. 2). Size the ILBE packs are approx 72 liters in total volume vs the 65 liters of the mystery ranch. 3) Last but not least is price. Although the ILBE can be found used for $50-100 new generally is around $200-250.
Great review! That looks like an awesome pack! I would love for you to review one of the Kuiu packs in comparison. It does not have that yoke design but is also made bullet proof and is the most comfortable pack I have ever had on. It's one of the lightest designs developed to carry upwards of 150lbs plus when need be. One of the things that sets it apart is the way the bag attachment separates from the frame allowing you to either carry an additional 2500 cu between the pack and frame or switch out any of their various bags from a tiny 1850 cu bag all the way up to their 7000 cu expedition size. It is also respectably light weight considering its capabilities. Thank you for the review!
I have an Arcflex Terraplane Dana Design (precursor to Mystery Ranch) mega bag from 1990's....I still use often, but also had a Bridger years ago. Both are superb packs and the load carrying belt yoke makes pack carrying painless all day. Also had a Bangtail fanny pack used in Caribbean in my minimalist phase and a little day pack of theirs. Have used for 30+ years. This is the only pack manufacturer I will consider. Hard core proven. I will share this...I prefer the expedition packs which I pack loose, meaning sleeping bag is not in a compression sack, tent broken into sections and larger sacks, and lots of dog food as she comes with me. Maybe 1/3rd of load is food which disappears rapidly. I am often tired at end of day, and stiff in morn, so want easy pack and unpack. But I'm 70 with come and go right hand fingers, so that's a factor too. I want easy.
One thing we do know is if you use this pack, your base weight will never fall below 5.5 lbs as that's the weight of the pack empty. Mystery Ranch has always been known for their quality packs that can carry heavy loads.
@@BackpackingTV One thing that has apparently gotten lost with the advent of vlogging, drones and backup batteries. There were two key drivers for the advent of lightweight backpacking: greater distance and a longer hiking career. Avoiding the wear and tear of heavier loads means fewer chronic injuries later in hiking life. Lighter packs also help those who already have the wear and tear from carrying heavier loads for years continue to hike beyond their sell-by date. Fortunately, I got the memo in my 30s to avoid back and joint wear by going lighter. Since I did, I'm hiking some of my biggest miles in my 50s still using a light pack. I still have that Deuter 75+15 weighing in at 7.5 lbs empty hanging on my gear wall. It sure can manage a heavy haul and has pockets for everything. I keep thinking about how I might use it some time, but I never do.
Thank you for the helpful review. Can you please compare or comment why you would choose one pack over the other - Bridger vs Terrafram? In both videos, you mention each being your favorite. If you had to pick one, which would it be and why?
I’d go with the Bridger in most scenarios now and it’s the better backpack for most people. However, whenever I have to carry an extra heavy load I’m going with the terraframe 100%. It’s amazing but it’s overkill for newer backpackers.
Great video, I just picked up the scree32 and loaded up about 15lbs did 5 miles on a local greenway. Once I learn how to pack it I'm sure I'll get to like it more.
I've been waiting too. They STILL don't have them in stock. The seem to be one of the best designed rigs for backpacking, but that's not going to be any good if we can't actually get our hands on one. I have 4 Mystery Ranch packs, I don't need another one, but I can't stop wanting this one.
@@BackpackingTV Well, the Bridgers just went from a 6 week waiting period to now no-known-ETA. The sellers aren't even pretending to know when they're going to be available. 😭
@@BackpackingTV FINALLY! Just ordered one and managed to get it at about 20% off with no tax & free shipping. I should have it in a few days. I'll break it in at the Adirondack Mountains.
Just got the 65l, I got the color I wanted too, which is the brown color, they were out of stock and I wanted it, I was about to get the 55l but lucky me the day I went to say screw it and get the 55 the 65 was back in stock that day, that hour in fact. I got the pack and it gives me a great feeling of how well made it is. I also like to carry heavier loads, I like my wool sleeping bag which is like 4lbs
I have a hike coming up and today i went to the sportsman warehouse in Mesa and got one on your recommendation. I was originally going to get the Baltoro after watching your 3 bag review.
New subscriber here, over from Becker's Channel btw, I have just paid for a 50+10L pack from a company called Forclaz. It has back meshing, belt pockets, bottle holder, removable brain, 3 ways into the main bin, including fully flaying front zips with compression straps inside. Has a bladder compartment, removable rain cover and fully adjustable straps all round. The best bit? £90. That's probably around $110. I'm gonna take it for a test drive in the Welsh mountains in a few days time. Having had an osprey before now, I'm interested to see how this one compares. There are only non English reviews, so I will post one shortly...
I currently use & love the Osprey Atmos 65. I wish it had access to the middle of the pack like this one does. If it did, it’d be the perfect pack in my opinion. What I don’t like about the Mystery pack tho is the lack of a stretch mesh panel on the back of the pack. I find them so helpful for storing wet items or items you want to get quickly like a rain jacket. Otherwise the design seems good. Although I’d have to test the sternum strap set up for myself to see if I liked it. I noticed you didn’t put water bottles in the huge stretchy pockets on the chest straps. Personally I don’t think I’d like to hike with two large water bottles on my chest anyway.
I hear ya. I like the stretch mesh pockets too but I actually prefer the zippered panel here that could also do the same thing, but with a little more organization. And yeah, while I love the double sternum strap, I have not found myself carrying anything in those pockets.
Very good review and thorough presentation of this new pack. The suspension is fabulous, the entry to the main compartment is excellent, with no fuss. Rugged materials with quality workmanship, so it should last many years. A few changes I hope they make: the large packets on the sternum straps are too high. I hope they find a way to lower them a bit; there are a whole lot of straps! Think they could simply a bit to reduce weight and clutter and still achieve good organization and closure. The sleeping bag compartment is actually not that big. A Western Mountaineering 20 degree bag just fits. Fortunately, you can unclip the pack body to sleeping bag divider and let the bag expand into the main compartment if needed. Again, nice review and I bought the pack! Thanks!
The front pocket, could you lay the front pocket flap down and stow it while the pack is fully sinched, and air out items in those 2 mesh pockets? It was your only drawback to the Bridger 65 over the 35 besides size. Could you just not close that flap and use it the same way as the expandable mesh?
I genuinely think this is one of the best and awesome backpack review I do have a well known US backpack competitor but i've always wanted to get my hand on a mystery ranch backpack maybe one day 😀
Eric ... Another great video and review ... Thanks ... Now I just need to find a store locally that has a Bridger on hand for me to try on ... And if all goes well ... I will be adding another backpack to my collection ... But don't tell my wife!
... Good review ... This looks like an awesome backpack ... had a few OK packs in the beginning but when I got serious about backpacking ,, I took a long time of looking before buying a quality pack ,, and found Mountainsmith 65 liter to be my choice that was back in the early '80's .. used regularly for 10 years ,than only a couple times a year since ,, but still in great shape ... at almost 7 lbs.,made of a canvas/gore-tex material,, still the best I've come across for my needs .....But lately a new manufacturer has come on the scene ,, Mystery Ranch,, I have looked into them for a while now and am very impressed with their products ,, and to me they are a very close copy of Mountainsmith with current mods .. newer materials ,, dual access , is a huge plus for me ,,older MS had one single zip down the middle plus the corded top bag opening ,, top brain is similar and I use it as a short day pack as a fanny pack or rigged as a sling bag,,, belt pouches are a plus ,, had to add my own and looks like shoulder straps have bottle accessary pouches made on also a plus .... outside of buying a new daypack 17 L Hyperlite then modding it my way ,, IF I would want to look into a change in my multi day pack (and I don't know why) I think this would be my choice .... I have to wonder if the designer(s) haven't crossed paths ....
I'm not sure about design crossings but it sounds like you've given this a lot of thought! Based on what you're saying here I think you'd really like it!
Nice pack with a lot of thought put into it , plenty big enough. Did notice they used a modified design of the comfortable Six Moons Flight Vest Harness. Since then I've gravitated to the UL packs at a pound or less. Part of the fun of being a short distance 3 or 4 night hiker.
I know this is an 8 month old comment, but any chance you can share what UL pack you like, and how it has held up? I need to move up to a larger pack (from a 45L), and if I'm looking at a $350 pack, it seems you can either go with a 5 pound bomb-proof beast, or a 1 pound UL pack, but I haven't heard any long-term testimonials of their durability.
I’m looking for a bigger backpack for winter trekking as well as multi-day treks.. currently I have decathlon 50L forclaz which is super comfortable to wear but minimal pockets. I do like the Mystery Ranch Bridger and it has great reviews esp for comfort which is crucial for me. I wish I could try it on before buying but I live in rural upper Midwest and REI is the closest store with backpacking gear and that is 2 hrs drive (and they don’t carry Mystery Ranch) I’ll probably end up just buying it anyway in another month or two, as the reviews are so good and I did the same with the decathlon pack and it turned out really well…
Thankyou for doing a video on mystery ranch. I love them and it's sooo nice to not see another ultra light backpack. But instead quality and craftsmanship. The Weight of the pack isn't the key it's the comfort it provides and how it carries the load. That's all that Matters cuz isn't that the point to what we do?! Mystery ranch is a pinnacle company one of them. It's nice to see a Good video sharing an alternative to all this ultralight madness. Check out hill people gear and check out their amazing one of a kind harness system. It'll blow ur mind.!!! I own 3 Hill people gear packs larger models.
@@BackpackingTV cool .the company is USA based out of Colorado or Montana and all their packs r USA 🇺🇸 made In a smaller factory. Great customer service. I've dealt with the owner so he gets involved. The company full name is Hill People Gear. Good luck.!
Question please...Can you provide a QRD of the differences between the Bridger 65 and the Glacier? Trying to decide between these two. There's obvious accessibility and pocket differences but I'm looking more into how the two packs ride and feel. I am leaning towards the Glacier due to the fact that so many old timers heap praise on the old Dana Design Terraplane frames and yokes, which I believe the Glacier carried over. A little hesitant to get a Bridger because I'm not sure I'd like that running vest harness. What exactly is MR trying to achieve differently with the Bridger as compared to their tried-and-true Glacier? I should probably mention I plan on carrying 35 lbs with the pack. Thanks for turning me on to MR by the way. Their packs are just truly excellent and set the standard for quality. I was hesitant but am now a true believer after getting a Coulee daypack for summitting peaks. So. Freaking. Comfortable. And durable. Thanks, man.
Really appreciate all your videos! I’m planning for a 260 mile journey, and your channel has really helped me(intermediate/ humbling myself to beginner). So thank you. Did you like the tent placement on this pack?
If you had to choose between Gregory baltoro 65 and this is one to go to kilomanjaro this year which one would you pick is a 7 day hike and I would be carrying photo equipment (not heavy but one lens and a 250gr drone) Honestly I can’t decide both look really top of the line.
Awesome review, thanks! Just one comment, regarding the manufacturer... Personally, I don't like to wear vivid/flashy/bright colors when trekking/camping. Especially when considering a backpack, which is the biggest and most viewable "wearable" one can have. I've noticed that this model is available either in bright orange, either some kind of grayish light brown ("taupe"). I prefer the color palette they've used on the Bridger 55 for instance (beige + black/dark gray). Why don't they offer more choices than only 2 color schemes (especially when considering the pricing), more over when one is an awful and bright orange (leaving only one choice: drab and "dirty" taupe)?
Nice review! Thorough and informative, with some use under your belt to make it informed and relative. I am trying to downsize and lighten for most trip. Does the 55l have the same design and features of the 65? Particularly the suspension system? Thanks.
If it's meant for hydration pouch (read the 3L Platypus didn't fit), why would they not include the "thingy" that keeps the hose secured to the shoulder strap?
Hi Eric, can you comment on the comfort and functionality of the lid as hip belt? I like having a separate summit pack. I have an old Dana Design Terraplane that I generally love, except where the lid became a bum bag. It was pretty floppy, and required removing the pack's hip belt, which was a hassle. This one looks like the worst of the floppiness of the dana design detachable lid, without the comfort of the full hip belt. I am generally looking for something big enough to carry 1 L of water, snacks canister stove, a meal, and a rain layer. Would you actually use the lid for that, or carry a separate silnylon summit pack? Thanks!
Any updates on this pack from anyone who has used one a lot? I’ve read some reviews about the shoulder straps being uncomfortable around the clavicle area. I’m about to pull the trigger on one, but I’m concerned about those few reviews.
For a Denali summer (40 - 60 degrees) 6 day, would you go Bridger 65 or Glacier? (Rain gear, most of the tent, stove, all that, plus rain gear, and the large bear can. Can this pack do that?
Great video, Eric I love your content. I was looking to pick this bag up, but wanted to know.... How easy/difficult is it to grab the water bottles from the side pockets? Any info is greatly appreciated.
I really like this pack!! But i want the bridger 55L version, unfortunately it hasn't released yet?.. It originally said March but they changed it to April?! Still worth the wait.! I own the original bridger pack and it was a great pack, but this one is more hiking oriented. I am curious how it will fit because the old bridger had their Futura harness. I love their Futura harness its one of, if not the best torso adjustment i have ever used! Mystery ranch packs are nearly number 1 imo! Worth every penny!! Hike on!!
Thanks for you enthusiasm for not so ultralight backpacking! Would you consider having someone review women specific packs/gear? Could be a good collaboration opportunity.
You now have me very interested in this pack…will this 65L bag be sufficient for a 7 day hike on Womderland Trail? I plan on having all me food with me…not a super ultra light backpacker. Tks for the great review as well!
How does a water bladder fit? When I went to see the pack in person, I was surprised at how small the bladder holder was. I can't imagine a 3L camelbak would fit. Now, I didn't have mine to try and the store didn't either. But that is why it didn't come home with me. How did you get your bladder in the sleeve?
Where do you carry y our camera with the Bridger? I had an attachment to snap my camera (Fuji DSLR) to my shoulder strap but with the front pockets that attachment point is gone. Anyone have a good solve for this?
Hi. Love your content but there was one error I noticed. The men’s and women’s Bridger 65 packs are the same price at 349 while the Bridger 55 is 329 for both the men’s and women’s versions which i suspect is what you were thinking of. Either way great video and I hope you have a great rest of your day.
My suggestion is try one on thats adjusted for your size. Last week i was leaving for a two day hike, with a MR Blackjack 80, at the station a woman engaged me in conversation about the pack, it was about 30kg, she tried to pick it up but was shocked at how much it seemed to weigh and could not lift it, i lifted it onto her shoulders she tightened the straps to fit and then said , "Oh this is not heavy at all". Its all about the balance and correct fit.
@@bellydancerlady My compliments. Just a note in case you did not know, the bottom of the pack frame should be in the small of your back above your bum, and the waist belt should be above your waist/hips. I mention that because most female hikers i see have the bottom of their pack frame on their bum, and the waist belt on their hips. I am guessing that may be because the pack is not adjusted for them or because they were never advised properly at the point of purchase. Happy trails.
@@peterjones4180 Hey Peter, thanks for the infor! Yes, I had a tendency to let that belt rest on my hips. I found that the pack does fit better as you have described.
Definitely interested in this backpack going to ahead down to the Pack Rat Outdoor store here in Fayetteville, Ar. this morning and check one out/ Thabks for the video. Subbed.
Sooo I have to know something as I have watched several of your videos and about to subscribe … Are you carrying your tent on the outside? Is that what I see big and yellow strapped to the back?
Have you ever taken a look at Hill People Gear? They have a pack called the Ute that looks pretty similar but I haven't seen many reviews from backpackers on it.
I've been thinking about a MR Terraframe 65, but the configuration and comfort of this one looks better. My one concern is that the width of the straps would prevent me from using a Peak Design Capture Clip, which is my favorite way to carry a camera on the trail. Are the hip pockets removable in favor of a MOLLE camera carrier?
Eric, great review! What would you estimate to be the typical weight you carry in your pack? I have owned a Deuter ACT Lite 65+10L pack for about 10 years now and I love it. BUT, as you say, "one way in and one way out." I'm seriously considering the Mystery Ranch Bridger 65L. Great info as always!
I think this thing can handle some pretty heavy loads. Not quite as crazy as the Terraframe that boast up to 150 lbs! But I'm guessing you could exceed 50 lbs and it would still be a great carry compared to most bags. I typically try to stay around the 35-40 lb range but that includes camera stuff.
For regular backpackers out there I would definitely say go with the Bridger. It's a better backpack for most people unless you really like to carry 50 pounds or more, or if you carry bulky extra gear like packrafts, climbing gear, or hunting equipment.
need an honest rate between the terraframe, bridger, and baltoro. At this point the bridger and baltoro are really similar in its features minus the new yoke. The baltoro is almost a pound lighter, but is the bridger that more comfortable? Will you really be replacing your terraframe for the bridger? i need answers! lol
I just bought a 2019 model Baltoro 65. I do not like that the sleeping bag compartment is so small, that I cannot even get my bag in there. I really like the look of the straight line zipper for the sleeping bag area. Just might have sell the Baltoro and upgrade to this one. I really like what I see.
I have a Dana Design Terraplane backpack in 1996 and it’s still a great pack. In 1997 I did an epic hike across the Olympics with this pack. It was over 70 miles and half of it was with NO trail: cross country route finding. The pack was fantastic. They sold the company and then started Mystery Ranch.
Wow thats cool I didn't know that. After being in the army an seeing the special guys all running mystery ranch packs of all shapes and sizes they have been the very top of my list out of all the complains making packs
Funny they have once again sold their brand. Mystery Ranch now belongs to Yeti, and the only mystery now is how long the brand will last under new ownership
That lens cap at 6:59 is the mark of a true photog!
Got my hands on this pack when inventory came back last month. All I can say is this video pretty much hits all the marks on what this pack is and does. Yes, it's heavier than other packs in it's class. I had also picked up a Gregory Baltoro 65 and wanted to do a direct comparison. Just picking up each pack, you can feel the difference in weight (a little over a half pound). What is also very apparent is the reason the Bridger is heavier - it's made of more durable material. But what really stands out with the Bridger is how dang comfortable it is once you put it on. I loaded each pack with about 30 pounds of gear, on the lighter end for what I usually pack, and the Bridger was way more comfortable. It didn't feel like I was carrying that much weight. The Baltoro was nice too, but the Bridger just carries better.
Wish the straps on the bottom that carry the tent were a little longer, as my current tent was barely able to fit. Although it's an older "wide" version tent, and I'm looking at getting something smaller very soon. Also, there are little velcro attachments for all of the straps, which help keep them secure once you've pulled everything tight so they aren't just flapping around. I found those to be more of a nuisance than anything, but you can remove them completely so it's a non issue.
I ended up returning the Baltoro and will be keeping this one for the long run. I'm coming from a 80L pack that weighs well over a pound more than this thing, so I was going to be shedding weight regardless. Wanted to go lighter, but the comfort on this thing is too good to ignore.
A superlative review. Made better after having seen an earlier one you did comparing three backpacks. Both you and Dan Becker perform an excellent service to those of us who are even thinking about getting into backpacking. There is so much to learn, coupled with so much bad information. The two of you give clear direction on what to buy. Thank you so much!!
@6:58 that's going to be a tough shot with the lens cap on. 😄
I'm feeling the picture-taking scene with the lens cover on.
Nice video, very informative. I think I'll buy this pack.
haha. Enjoy the pack Ed!
So torn between the 55 and the 65. Thank you very much for the videos !
65 certainly
Neat! I love Mystery Ranch. My Glacier weighs six and a half pounds but it is so well balanced it feels so light, although its really tall. Mystery Ranch packs are pretty bullet proof. The hip belts in these packs are unsurpassed. I live in Alaska, I am 140 pounds but because its Winter mostly year around in the heaviest seasons I have a 10 pound 4 season tent, a 4 pound pad, food, a medical kit, water, toilet kit, extra undies, socks and and -20 sleeping bag. Mystery Ranch never lets me down. That well made Deuter, Osprey or Gregory I carried in the past were all great for late Spring, early summer but I need something super strong for most of the year. The pack even stands up by itself when I put it down. Awesome. Thanks for a great channel.
Hey Mike! Even though it's pretty heavy I really like the Glacier pack too. Seems perfect for Alaska! Cheers!
Ordered.....seems to check all the boxes for my new backpack. Thanks for the review!!
Hooray !, at last a Mystery Ranch user on U Tube.
I have many Mystery Ranch military packs, these with my Crossfire Australia packs are my hiking equipment.
The only Mystery Ranch pack i can ever remember seeing on U Tube was nailed to the gable of the hiking shop at Mt Laguna.
My ethos is "If you cant hump the required load, dont do the walk".
Love their packs.
Cheers to you!
@@BackpackingTV Gday to you.
I look forward to more Mystery Ranch reviews.
Great video and great content! Really like that backpack but concerned it’s kinda on the heavy side. But I live how it opens and really think I would like the yoke! Thanks again
I use a wide variety of the Mystery Ranch military packs, i find that the pack weight becomes inconsequential once the pack is loaded with gear and on your back, its just a tiny bit of a 35 kg load.
What matters is the balance and fit of the pack.
If your base weight is like 15lbs, then yeah this is too heavy for your needs. But if you plan on carrying 40lbs then a slightly heavier pack to support that load is a very good idea.
The yoke is it
6:58 nice shot, 10/10, bet it would be a great picture 🤣 , great review tho👍
thank you! haha
I shouldn't have watched this. Now I really want one of these! I have two Mystery Ranch packs, one of which I got nearly 20 years ago when the rep came through my town and showed off the inventory at the shop I was working for. I don't believe the owner bought any, but I sure snagged one for myself as it was clear as day that they were doing many things right in their designs. The way the pack effortlessly adjusts to a wearers back is brilliant and provides such a appropriate fit for a wide range of heights. More recently I bought a larger used one off of eBay. Its pretty bare bones for a Mystery Ranch pack. I look forward to getting some weight in it so I can see how it carries.
One of my favorite things about their packs is that they aren't building everything with overly thin and flimsy fabrics trying to keep up with the ultra light trend. Light is great but I want gear that is sturdy and built to last first and foremost.
haha sorry to make you add another item to your shopping list! Yeah I love the durable nature of these packs. Just went through a slot canyon with tons of abrasion and the packs withstood it surprisingly well!
First off the list...thanks for the great video! As always very thorough! Eric, with so many comments below concerned about the 5+ pound pack weight, compared to a pack that weighs 2-3 pounds less, is it fair to say that the Bridger is more comfortable carrying 30lbs than other packs you have used or tested are at carrying 27lbs? My experience is that if a great pack carries 30lbs better and more comfortably (less work/stress on the body) than another pack carries 27lbs, who cares what it weighs empty? No one ever goes backpacking with an empty pack. Should not the emphasis be on how your body feels (comfort, wear and tear, etc.) at the end of the hike?
That yoke type strap was pioneered for backpacking packs by the founder of Six Moon Designs who needed a pack he could wear that wouldn’t aggravate a back condition. Other manufacturers are seeing the advantage of this (e.g. Zerk). It’s interesting the adjustment method for the Mystery Ranch is almost identical to the one used by Six Moon Designs.
Have you owned six moon designs packs?
The pioneer of the backpacking harness. ruclips.net/video/05RMv1BsRNI/видео.html
hmm. Interesting. I haven't used Six Moon Designs before. Thanks for pointing that out!
I have a mystery ranch 2 day assault pack that I have taken through countless field training exercises and even a deployment and that thing is still kicking. Can confirm that mystery ranches are built tough. They are the only packs I trust for my military use.
I like the idea of the brain becoming a hip pack instead of another day pack, since now they make day packs that can compress down to the size of a deck of cards, a hip pack is better. I like that adjustable sizing for your back size. The fully opening pockets are great too.
Hip packs are fun!
Just waiting on my Dana Designs Astralplane overkill to wear out..its 25yrs old..still kickin'..
haha might be waiting another 25!
Because of this review I grabbed the Bridger 55 as a overnight, winter hiking pack. So far, love it.
Wonderful! Glad to hear it!
Bridger is a nice flexible size
Great to see another backpack utilizing running vest strap technology (like Mountainsmith or Montane).
Also Six Moons Designs Minimalist 2
Love everything about this bag. Oddly enough I cant seem to see any other good video reviews on it. Some written reviews on websites have issue with the padding on the shoulders that is it. This def. checks all the boxes for me. But I do wonder why no other sites have done reviews on this... I hate to spend 350 bucks and not like it.
Appreciate the breakdown! Heading to Glacier in August for my first packing trip and you sold the hell out of this bag!
Right on, have a great trip to Glacier! Amazing place.
Thanks! Great review! I drooled over that pack for a wile before pulling the trigger on MRs military version. Mostly because it was Barry compliant, and the Bridger wasn’t available yet. Love their products! Very well built, and like you mentioned, they are built to carry the weight.
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Their ability to carry heavy loads is unsurpassed in my opinion! Cheers!
As a matter of interest which MR military pack did you buy ?, i have quite a few and would be interested to swap notes.
SATL 60L in a scorpion camo.
I thought about the 70L metcalf, but I knew with the extra room I would just carry more weight. The versatility of the external frame was alluring though. I think I’ve made a good choice. It’s a comfortable pack, with out too many extra pockets or gadgets. Very rugged, and probably boom proof. LOL
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@@donnydread7631 Ah yes i have a SATL in coyote, i find it a good fit for winter day walks and summer two days.
The strap under the daypack lid was obviously designed to carry an M72 LAW, but i find it will accommodate a half length thermaarest without any problem.
The lid allows me to carry a full size hootchie folded up between the pack and the lid as well as the above mentioned thermarest.
The two internal hydration sleeves are very useful, as i carry a two day ration of water on 2 + day hikes (8 ltrs).
The radio pouch does accommodate two issue 24 hour ration packs without a struggle.
I have found this pack to be comfortable and well balanced and have been using it for several years now.
The hip belt has two positions to attach pouches on each side i find that invaluable for attaching a GPS pouch one side and a compass pouch the other.
My only real complaint about the pack is the insufficient application of MOLLE webbing and its placement LOW on the sides of the pack.
This greatly restricts what pouches i can carry on the sides and that is a real shortfall.
When an E Tool pouch is fitted (all my packs have them) it sits so low that it interferes with the top of my canteen if i fit them in the sleeves on the side.
Forcing me to put one canteen , cups canteen metal and hexi stove combo in the torpedo pocket in the back.
Really the MOLLE should run from just above the side pocket right up to the top of the pack frame.
This would allow me to fit an RFAK on the pack as well instead of it taking up scarce room inside the pack.
It can be fixed though i have had a number of my MR packs modified by buying the MR tiedown straps and having them professionally sewn in as MOLLE webbing by a pack repairer this fixes the problem permanently and you cant tell that they were added later.
The torpedo pockets are large enough to fit a Carinthia bivy bag without problem.
What are your thoughts on the pack ?
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I’m going to use it to hike the Appalachian Trail next year, and haven’t gotten to use it much yet. I have found that I can create a day pack with the lid and shoulder straps. I’m glad that I didn’t spend the extra $100 on the MR day pack lid attachment.
What other packs do you have?
Just got mine in Thanks to your Great Video. Thanks for the Review!!
Heck yeah! Enjoy it!
Great video, thanks. Hoping to return to backpacking after a move closer to wilderness areas. My old love, the Eastern Sierras, became too onerous to reach driving from SoCal. I never was a "long trail" distance hiker, just enjoyed three or four nights out for some peace and quiet without crowds. So this pack sounds like a winner.
Glad to hear it Mike! Enjoy that wilderness!
Eric
This appears to be very similar to the ILBE gen 2 backpack. The big differences I see so far are 3).
1). Weight the ILBE weighs approx 9.5 lbs vs this pack but is a much heavier material at 720 denier fabric. 2). Size the ILBE packs are approx 72 liters in total volume vs the 65 liters of the mystery ranch. 3) Last but not least is price. Although the ILBE can be found used for $50-100 new generally is around $200-250.
Nice review👍🏻 Looking forward to putting one on and checking it out. I really like my MR Terraframe 65L.
Thanks! If you like the Terraframe I think you'll really like this one. They feel very distinct from each other, which I really like.
Great review! That looks like an awesome pack! I would love for you to review one of the Kuiu packs in comparison. It does not have that yoke design but is also made bullet proof and is the most comfortable pack I have ever had on. It's one of the lightest designs developed to carry upwards of 150lbs plus when need be. One of the things that sets it apart is the way the bag attachment separates from the frame allowing you to either carry an additional 2500 cu between the pack and frame or switch out any of their various bags from a tiny 1850 cu bag all the way up to their 7000 cu expedition size. It is also respectably light weight considering its capabilities.
Thank you for the review!
I have an Arcflex Terraplane Dana Design (precursor to Mystery Ranch) mega bag from 1990's....I still use often, but also had a Bridger years ago. Both are superb packs and the load carrying belt yoke makes pack carrying painless all day. Also had a Bangtail fanny pack used in Caribbean in my minimalist phase and a little day pack of theirs. Have used for 30+ years. This is the only pack manufacturer I will consider. Hard core proven.
I will share this...I prefer the expedition packs which I pack loose, meaning sleeping bag is not in a compression sack, tent broken into sections and larger sacks, and lots of dog food as she comes with me. Maybe 1/3rd of load is food which disappears rapidly. I am often tired at end of day, and stiff in morn, so want easy pack and unpack. But I'm 70 with come and go right hand fingers, so that's a factor too. I want easy.
One thing we do know is if you use this pack, your base weight will never fall below 5.5 lbs as that's the weight of the pack empty.
Mystery Ranch has always been known for their quality packs that can carry heavy loads.
All these things are true!
@@BackpackingTV One thing that has apparently gotten lost with the advent of vlogging, drones and backup batteries. There were two key drivers for the advent of lightweight backpacking: greater distance and a longer hiking career.
Avoiding the wear and tear of heavier loads means fewer chronic injuries later in hiking life. Lighter packs also help those who already have the wear and tear from carrying heavier loads for years continue to hike beyond their sell-by date.
Fortunately, I got the memo in my 30s to avoid back and joint wear by going lighter. Since I did, I'm hiking some of my biggest miles in my 50s still using a light pack.
I still have that Deuter 75+15 weighing in at 7.5 lbs empty hanging on my gear wall. It sure can manage a heavy haul and has pockets for everything. I keep thinking about how I might use it some time, but I never do.
Thank you for the helpful review. Can you please compare or comment why you would choose one pack over the other - Bridger vs Terrafram? In both videos, you mention each being your favorite. If you had to pick one, which would it be and why?
I’d go with the Bridger in most scenarios now and it’s the better backpack for most people. However, whenever I have to carry an extra heavy load I’m going with the terraframe 100%. It’s amazing but it’s overkill for newer backpackers.
I have an external frame pack, can’t wait for winter to be over😊
I ordered a Terraframe 50 but received the Bridger 65. How blessed can someone be?
do you have a feedback to share ?
Nice review! Might need to make some moves in April... Looks like an awesome pack!
Great video, I just picked up the scree32 and loaded up about 15lbs did 5 miles on a local greenway. Once I learn how to pack it I'm sure I'll get to like it more.
I've been waiting too. They STILL don't have them in stock.
The seem to be one of the best designed rigs for backpacking, but that's not going to be any good if we can't actually get our hands on one. I have 4 Mystery Ranch packs, I don't need another one, but I can't stop wanting this one.
I'm pretty sure these will finally be available in April. I hope so, because they're great and lots of people are waiting on them!
@@BackpackingTV Here's to hoping it's not vaporware.
@@BackpackingTV Well, the Bridgers just went from a 6 week waiting period to now no-known-ETA. The sellers aren't even pretending to know when they're going to be available. 😭
@@BackpackingTV FINALLY!
Just ordered one and managed to get it at about 20% off with no tax & free shipping. I should have it in a few days. I'll break it in at the Adirondack Mountains.
Just got the 65l, I got the color I wanted too, which is the brown color, they were out of stock and I wanted it, I was about to get the 55l but lucky me the day I went to say screw it and get the 55 the 65 was back in stock that day, that hour in fact. I got the pack and it gives me a great feeling of how well made it is. I also like to carry heavier loads, I like my wool sleeping bag which is like 4lbs
I have a hike coming up and today i went to the sportsman warehouse in Mesa and got one on your recommendation.
I was originally going to get the Baltoro after watching your 3 bag review.
Nice! Let me know what you think after a few trips.
New subscriber here, over from Becker's Channel btw, I have just paid for a 50+10L pack from a company called Forclaz. It has back meshing, belt pockets, bottle holder, removable brain, 3 ways into the main bin, including fully flaying front zips with compression straps inside. Has a bladder compartment, removable rain cover and fully adjustable straps all round. The best bit? £90. That's probably around $110. I'm gonna take it for a test drive in the Welsh mountains in a few days time. Having had an osprey before now, I'm interested to see how this one compares. There are only non English reviews, so I will post one shortly...
Welcome Craig! And yeah for around 100 bucks, that's a great deal. Curious how it goes!
I currently use & love the Osprey Atmos 65. I wish it had access to the middle of the pack like this one does. If it did, it’d be the perfect pack in my opinion. What I don’t like about the Mystery pack tho is the lack of a stretch mesh panel on the back of the pack. I find them so helpful for storing wet items or items you want to get quickly like a rain jacket. Otherwise the design seems good. Although I’d have to test the sternum strap set up for myself to see if I liked it. I noticed you didn’t put water bottles in the huge stretchy pockets on the chest straps. Personally I don’t think I’d like to hike with two large water bottles on my chest anyway.
I hear ya. I like the stretch mesh pockets too but I actually prefer the zippered panel here that could also do the same thing, but with a little more organization. And yeah, while I love the double sternum strap, I have not found myself carrying anything in those pockets.
Very good review and thorough presentation of this new pack. The suspension is fabulous, the entry to the main compartment is excellent, with no fuss. Rugged materials with quality workmanship, so it should last many years. A few changes I hope they make: the large packets on the sternum straps are too high. I hope they find a way to lower them a bit; there are a whole lot of straps! Think they could simply a bit to reduce weight and clutter and still achieve good organization and closure. The sleeping bag compartment is actually not that big. A Western Mountaineering 20 degree bag just fits. Fortunately, you can unclip the pack body to sleeping bag divider and let the bag expand into the main compartment if needed. Again, nice review and I bought the pack! Thanks!
The front pocket, could you lay the front pocket flap down and stow it while the pack is fully sinched, and air out items in those 2 mesh pockets? It was your only drawback to the Bridger 65 over the 35 besides size. Could you just not close that flap and use it the same way as the expandable mesh?
Would like to see terraframe 50 with top pouch/daypack and a back netting like on the osprey atmos. That would for me be the perfect backpack.
I genuinely think this is one of the best and awesome backpack review I do have a well known US backpack competitor but i've always wanted to get my hand on a mystery ranch backpack maybe one day 😀
dream a little dream! You can do it!
Eric ... Another great video and review ... Thanks ... Now I just need to find a store locally that has a Bridger on hand for me to try on ... And if all goes well ... I will be adding another backpack to my collection ... But don't tell my wife!
Your secret is safe with me! If I understand it correctly these will be hitting the shelves of stores in April. Just got to wait a tiny bit longer!
... Good review ... This looks like an awesome backpack ... had a few OK packs in the beginning but when I got serious about backpacking ,, I took a long time of looking before buying a quality pack ,, and found Mountainsmith 65 liter to be my choice that was back in the early '80's .. used regularly for 10 years ,than only a couple times a year since ,, but still in great shape ... at almost 7 lbs.,made of a canvas/gore-tex material,, still the best I've come across for my needs .....But lately a new manufacturer has come on the scene ,, Mystery Ranch,, I have looked into them for a while now and am very impressed with their products ,, and to me they are a very close copy of Mountainsmith with current mods .. newer materials ,, dual access , is a huge plus for me ,,older MS had one single zip down the middle plus the corded top bag opening ,, top brain is similar and I use it as a short day pack as a fanny pack or rigged as a sling bag,,, belt pouches are a plus ,, had to add my own and looks like shoulder straps have bottle accessary pouches made on also a plus .... outside of buying a new daypack 17 L Hyperlite then modding it my way ,, IF I would want to look into a change in my multi day pack (and I don't know why) I think this would be my choice .... I have to wonder if the designer(s) haven't crossed paths ....
I'm not sure about design crossings but it sounds like you've given this a lot of thought! Based on what you're saying here I think you'd really like it!
Great video and review!!
thank you!
mystery ranch packs are top notch. absolutely love my terraframe 80
Nice pack with a lot of thought put into it , plenty big enough. Did notice they used a modified design of the comfortable Six Moons Flight Vest Harness. Since then I've gravitated to the UL packs at a pound or less. Part of the fun of being a short distance 3 or 4 night hiker.
Others have mentioned the Six Moon Designs on the vest. Not sure where the inspiration came from, but it's a great design!
I know this is an 8 month old comment, but any chance you can share what UL pack you like, and how it has held up? I need to move up to a larger pack (from a 45L), and if I'm looking at a $350 pack, it seems you can either go with a 5 pound bomb-proof beast, or a 1 pound UL pack, but I haven't heard any long-term testimonials of their durability.
I’m looking for a bigger backpack for winter trekking as well as multi-day treks.. currently I have decathlon 50L forclaz which is super comfortable to wear but minimal pockets.
I do like the Mystery Ranch Bridger and it has great reviews esp for comfort which is crucial for me. I wish I could try it on before buying but I live in rural upper Midwest and REI is the closest store with backpacking gear and that is 2 hrs drive (and they don’t carry Mystery Ranch)
I’ll probably end up just buying it anyway in another month or two, as the reviews are so good and I did the same with the decathlon pack and it turned out really well…
Just got my hands on the 55. Taking it out this weekend, can’t wait! What water bottle are you using in the front vest pocket?
Thankyou for doing a video on mystery ranch. I love them and it's sooo nice to not see another ultra light backpack. But instead quality and craftsmanship. The Weight of the pack isn't the key it's the comfort it provides and how it carries the load. That's all that Matters cuz isn't that the point to what we do?! Mystery ranch is a pinnacle company one of them. It's nice to see a Good video sharing an alternative to all this ultralight madness. Check out hill people gear and check out their amazing one of a kind harness system. It'll blow ur mind.!!! I own 3 Hill people gear packs larger models.
I appreciate the love! I’ll check out the Hill People packs!
@@BackpackingTV cool .the company is USA based out of Colorado or Montana and all their packs r USA 🇺🇸 made In a smaller factory. Great customer service. I've dealt with the owner so he gets involved. The company full name is Hill People Gear. Good luck.!
Question please...Can you provide a QRD of the differences between the Bridger 65 and the Glacier? Trying to decide between these two. There's obvious accessibility and pocket differences but I'm looking more into how the two packs ride and feel. I am leaning towards the Glacier due to the fact that so many old timers heap praise on the old Dana Design Terraplane frames and yokes, which I believe the Glacier carried over. A little hesitant to get a Bridger because I'm not sure I'd like that running vest harness. What exactly is MR trying to achieve differently with the Bridger as compared to their tried-and-true Glacier? I should probably mention I plan on carrying 35 lbs with the pack. Thanks for turning me on to MR by the way. Their packs are just truly excellent and set the standard for quality. I was hesitant but am now a true believer after getting a Coulee daypack for summitting peaks. So. Freaking. Comfortable. And durable. Thanks, man.
Love the look of the Mystery Ranch stuff, don't own any but if I was in the market for a new ruck I would definitely put this on a short list.
looks great and works great!
Really appreciate all your videos! I’m planning for a 260 mile journey, and your channel has really helped me(intermediate/ humbling myself to beginner). So thank you. Did you like the tent placement on this pack?
If you had to choose between Gregory baltoro 65 and this is one to go to kilomanjaro this year which one would you pick is a 7 day hike and I would be carrying photo equipment (not heavy but one lens and a 250gr drone)
Honestly I can’t decide both look really top of the line.
Could've added a little bit more on the front like the Terraframe. I like some customization options and am debating this or Terraframe.
Awesome review, thanks! Just one comment, regarding the manufacturer... Personally, I don't like to wear vivid/flashy/bright colors when trekking/camping. Especially when considering a backpack, which is the biggest and most viewable "wearable" one can have. I've noticed that this model is available either in bright orange, either some kind of grayish light brown ("taupe"). I prefer the color palette they've used on the Bridger 55 for instance (beige + black/dark gray). Why don't they offer more choices than only 2 color schemes (especially when considering the pricing), more over when one is an awful and bright orange (leaving only one choice: drab and "dirty" taupe)?
Nice review! Thorough and informative, with some use under your belt to make it informed and relative. I am trying to downsize and lighten for most trip. Does the 55l have the same design and features of the 65? Particularly the suspension system? Thanks.
If it's meant for hydration pouch (read the 3L Platypus didn't fit), why would they not include the "thingy" that keeps the hose secured to the shoulder strap?
Woo who... My Bridger 65L was just delivered Woo Who!
Now all I need to do is figure out how to adjust it to my body ... :))
Enjoy and let me know how you like it!
Hi Eric, can you comment on the comfort and functionality of the lid as hip belt? I like having a separate summit pack. I have an old Dana Design Terraplane that I generally love, except where the lid became a bum bag. It was pretty floppy, and required removing the pack's hip belt, which was a hassle. This one looks like the worst of the floppiness of the dana design detachable lid, without the comfort of the full hip belt. I am generally looking for something big enough to carry 1 L of water, snacks canister stove, a meal, and a rain layer. Would you actually use the lid for that, or carry a separate silnylon summit pack? Thanks!
Any updates on this pack from anyone who has used one a lot? I’ve read some reviews about the shoulder straps being uncomfortable around the clavicle area. I’m about to pull the trigger on one, but I’m concerned about those few reviews.
Did you have any promo code to buy on their website?
For a Denali summer (40 - 60 degrees) 6 day, would you go Bridger 65 or Glacier? (Rain gear, most of the tent, stove, all that, plus rain gear, and the large bear can. Can this pack do that?
Great video, Eric I love your content.
I was looking to pick this bag up, but wanted to know.... How easy/difficult is it to grab the water bottles from the side pockets?
Any info is greatly appreciated.
I really like this pack!! But i want the bridger 55L version, unfortunately it hasn't released yet?.. It originally said March but they changed it to April?! Still worth the wait.! I own the original bridger pack and it was a great pack, but this one is more hiking oriented. I am curious how it will fit because the old bridger had their Futura harness. I love their Futura harness its one of, if not the best torso adjustment i have ever used! Mystery ranch packs are nearly number 1 imo! Worth every penny!! Hike on!!
The 55L and 65L should release at the same time, which from what I hear is right around now. Hope you can get your hands on one!
Always hitting the major points!
Thanks for what you do Eric!
Thanks for you enthusiasm for not so ultralight backpacking! Would you consider having someone review women specific packs/gear? Could be a good collaboration opportunity.
Totally! I wish I could provide more perspective for women and would definitely like to have someone that could speak to women's specific gear.
Thought the same. The 2-straps-yoke seems eally comftable... If you have flat breasts
The first thing I thought when he showed the double chest straps was, "well that won't work for women."
@@ponypower2793 same! Now looking for a review from a woman's perspective.
You now have me very interested in this pack…will this 65L bag be sufficient for a 7 day hike on Womderland Trail? I plan on having all me food with me…not a super ultra light backpacker.
Tks for the great review as well!
I think you can do it if you pack carefully, but that's a lot of food to carry in a 65L bag. Glad the review was helpful!
@@BackpackingTV appreciate all your advice and dig the channel. I may just drop food off at locations because I really want the Bridger 65L.
Great review! How does it compare to Terraframe 65? It seems like the Bridger gets more pockets and Terraframe gets extra carrying ability?
How does a water bladder fit? When I went to see the pack in person, I was surprised at how small the bladder holder was. I can't imagine a 3L camelbak would fit. Now, I didn't have mine to try and the store didn't either. But that is why it didn't come home with me. How did you get your bladder in the sleeve?
Nice review!
Is it possible to put a bear canister in it? For example BearVault BV500-Journey.
Where do you carry y our camera with the Bridger? I had an attachment to snap my camera (Fuji DSLR) to my shoulder strap but with the front pockets that attachment point is gone. Anyone have a good solve for this?
Will the sleeping bag compartment fit a full MSS (bivy and both bags)?
Good day sir. What is the torso of this backpack?
Hi. Love your content but there was one error I noticed. The men’s and women’s Bridger 65 packs are the same price at 349 while the Bridger 55 is 329 for both the men’s and women’s versions which i suspect is what you were thinking of. Either way great video and I hope you have a great rest of your day.
I have been known to bungle things up from time to time! Thank you!
Is the big difference between this and the terraframe the lack of overload feature?
If only we could try several before buying. Dang.
I love the features of this pack ...4.4 lbs..now with this crazy yoke design..would it be compatible with the female form?
That's a great question and I don't have an answer yet. I'm trying to gather some data from female users so I can follow up!
My suggestion is try one on thats adjusted for your size.
Last week i was leaving for a two day hike, with a MR Blackjack 80, at the station a woman engaged me in conversation about the pack, it was about 30kg, she tried to pick it up but was shocked at how much it seemed to weigh and could not lift it, i lifted it onto her shoulders she tightened the straps to fit and then said , "Oh this is not heavy at all".
Its all about the balance and correct fit.
@@peterjones4180Thank you for this great info!
@@bellydancerlady My compliments.
Just a note in case you did not know, the bottom of the pack frame should be in the small of your back above your bum, and the waist belt should be above your waist/hips.
I mention that because most female hikers i see have the bottom of their pack frame on their bum, and the waist belt on their hips.
I am guessing that may be because the pack is not adjusted for them or because they were never advised properly at the point of purchase.
Happy trails.
@@peterjones4180 Hey Peter, thanks for the infor! Yes, I had a tendency to let that belt rest on my hips. I found that the pack does fit better as you have described.
How does this compare to the terraframe?
Trying to decide between the terra frame and this one. Which one would you pick between the two?
Definitely interested in this backpack going to ahead down to the Pack Rat Outdoor store here in Fayetteville, Ar. this morning and check one out/ Thabks for the video. Subbed.
Excellent! Sounds like stores are starting to get their stock of this. Hopefully it's there for you to check out!
Your lens cap was on.
Great review.
How tall are you and What size is your pack? I’ve read the size guide but I’m curious about fit
Than You for the review. 👍
I’m getting one my Marshal pack is too big this looks perfect
let me know what you think!
Will do I’m sure I’ll love it I have like 20 plus of their products I’m a fan boy for sure lol.
What size would you recommend?
I was sized for a small with a 2022 Gregory baltoro 65l
I’m 5’9 170!
Thanks!
Sooo I have to know something as I have watched several of your videos and about to subscribe … Are you carrying your tent on the outside? Is that what I see big and yellow strapped to the back?
Have you ever taken a look at Hill People Gear? They have a pack called the Ute that looks pretty similar but I haven't seen many reviews from backpackers on it.
I keep hearing about them, but no, I haven't used them. I will though!
Love your work man! What audio and camera gear do you use?
This was shot on the Sony FX6 with a Senhiesser lav mic. But when I'm on my own I use most Sony a7riii and DJI Creator. And thanks!
I've been thinking about a MR Terraframe 65, but the configuration and comfort of this one looks better. My one concern is that the width of the straps would prevent me from using a Peak Design Capture Clip, which is my favorite way to carry a camera on the trail. Are the hip pockets removable in favor of a MOLLE camera carrier?
Do you like it better than the Terraframe 65 and 80?
Eric, great review! What would you estimate to be the typical weight you carry in your pack? I have owned a Deuter ACT Lite 65+10L pack for about 10 years now and I love it. BUT, as you say, "one way in and one way out." I'm seriously considering the Mystery Ranch Bridger 65L. Great info as always!
I think this thing can handle some pretty heavy loads. Not quite as crazy as the Terraframe that boast up to 150 lbs! But I'm guessing you could exceed 50 lbs and it would still be a great carry compared to most bags. I typically try to stay around the 35-40 lb range but that includes camera stuff.
@@BackpackingTV Thanks for the feedback! I'm carrying about 35 lb WITHOUT any camera equipment....wondering if that's too much...??
Is this pack too heavy for a thru hike?
Would you suggest the terraframe 65l or the bridger 65l?
For regular backpackers out there I would definitely say go with the Bridger. It's a better backpack for most people unless you really like to carry 50 pounds or more, or if you carry bulky extra gear like packrafts, climbing gear, or hunting equipment.
need an honest rate between the terraframe, bridger, and baltoro. At this point the bridger and baltoro are really similar in its features minus the new yoke. The baltoro is almost a pound lighter, but is the bridger that more comfortable? Will you really be replacing your terraframe for the bridger? i need answers! lol
I just bought a 2019 model Baltoro 65. I do not like that the sleeping bag compartment is so small, that I cannot even get my bag in there. I really like the look of the straight line zipper for the sleeping bag area. Just might have sell the Baltoro and upgrade to this one. I really like what I see.
How tall are you and what size did you purchase?
Is there a place to attach an ice axe?
Any idea when they will actually be available?
April apparently....birthday!!!