I got a Gregory 80 liter mountaineering backpack 18 years ago, been taking it up and down the canadian rockies and all over BC and Alberta, it has floated in a lake, fallen off a cliff, been shipped full cross country a dozen or more times, still as great as the day I got it. Comfortable, highly adjustable, water PROOF of just resistant. 100% would recommend Gregory
Great video. I love the Osprey for their anti-gravity system. It really reduces the load allowing to move it to the hips instead of the shoulders, as it should be.
I'm not sure how you can review a Mystery Ranch pack without mentioning their heritage: Dana Designs, and Dan Gleason himself. In the 80's there were really only two pack pack manufactures our there: Dana Designs and Gregory (Dana Gleason and Wayne Gregory). Thats it. Just two worth mentioning. Were there others? Yes, but these guys were so far ahead of the curve that there was no reason anyone serious would consider carrying anything else. Gregory is still, IMO, in the top 2 and as companies go, has been the only long standing high-end manufacturer (USA) that has managed to stick around consistently... well, sorta, Wayne sold "Gregory" decades ago and it has changes hands a couple times. But the "company" has been well run and continued to make top-tier packs (The Bartolo is the flagship). Dana Designs took another path, Dana Gleason sold the company and the buyer (K2 I believe) killed it... who knows why but Dana Designs packs disappeared... one of the two best in the world just sorta vanished. Must have made Dana Gleason Furious. Well, lucky Dana Gleason's non-complete must have run out and he started making his packs again under "Mystery Ranch". While Gregory's product line went main stream Mystery Ranch packs have sorta stayed under the radar Partly because most their market development is Military, Hunting and Firefighting... Luckily for all of us they are now back in the swing of producing a full recreational line and they are as bomb-proof as ever (Those that are old enough will get the 'Bomb Pack' reference ;-). The ArcFlex/Light suspensions of the past are gone, replaced with equally amazing modern systems. I carry Gregory Bartolo's for multi-day humps... but if I wear one out (hard to do as I also have a 30 year old Gregory Shasta still going strong) I will definitely pick up a current generation Mystery Ranch Terraplane or a Bridger... Terraplane, Bridger, Glacier... all Packs once produces under "Dana Designs"... Dana - Make the Bombpack again! ;-) Both Mystery and Gregory make the best packs out there... This are better? Both... they are both different and have different attributes. Which are more bomb proof - absolutely Mystery Ranch... but both are built to out last your ability to walk.
What an awesome comment!! Everyone else is saying Osprey this Osprey that. I have MR in my radar for a while now, but didn't think much of Gregory. Until now. Now I have to check it out.
I’m curious 🧐.. are you a writer, historian?? Or a bott? 😅Because you narrate facts with precision.. it takes a lot of time to put this together and write it
@@ilustradsn Not a Bot... just an aging gearhead that used to work in a Mtn. shop and sell both Gregory and Dana Designs back in the early 90's. Best job ever... before 'online' killed the local Mtn. Shop (RIP; Swallows Nest, A16 etc etc...Thank G Neptune Mtneering and Nomad Ventures still exist! ). I miss those days and sometimes I can't help myself.
I absolutely love my Gregory Deva (women's version of the Baltoro)! I am an organizational freak so all those pockets and front access are perfect. In addition, I am 50 years old and just got back into backpacking last summer, after 25 years of not backpacking. Used an old external frame pack from the 90s back then. But hey, I'd like a few "creature features" when I'm out in the backcountry now, like a chair, or God forbid, an extra pair or two of socks 🤣. These newer packs carry loads like a dream!
I have this pack too! So comfortable and lots of fit options. The outfitter switched out the shoulder straps (free of charge) to get the best fit for me. Maybe he can do a women’s specific gear video… 🤔
@@jenniferbostrom759 I had my straps switched out, free of charge, too! The hipbelts can be swapped for different sizes too, but the original one was good for me. REI was super helpful in getting the fit perfect for me.
I spent a lot of time researching backpacks before I landed on the Osprey Atmos 65L and have no regrets. I spent a week on a grueling trail here in Ontario, Canada and while I most likely overpacked (around 48 lbs), this pack carried the weight beautifully. While the full zip on the other packs is a good idea and great when packing, I typically keep all of my essential items I might need in accessible areas. Everything else in the middle or at the bottom doesn't come out until I get to camp. Love the size because its also great for winter trips, lots of room for bulkier gear. Thanks for the great videos.
I have the Gregory...as a older hiker, 67, I've used it ...10 years? and had several back injuries and I've found the suspension system works very well for me. Enjoyed your reviews!
I have the atmos and its been my favorite pack. Love the breathability, the way it fits on my hip and the way it takes the weight off my lower back. Holds alot , has proven to be durable and its just a great pack. I have a bad back and it allows me to perform so much better and longer
Ha! Funny opening to the video. I’m an Osprey guy, so I’m biased, but as a well seasoned backpacker who’s hiked around the US & world, the Atmos is still my favorite go to backpack for multi-day excursions. Just super comfortable. I don’t mind that it doesn’t have front panel access to the middle of the pack. It’s not THAT hard to get stuff from the pack compared to others. When I wanna go really light, I have my Talon & Exos packs from Osprey. So I’m covered for pretty much for all my hiking needs. 👍🏼
Love your channel and the variety of things you do on it. I know being ultralight is not your style which I completely respect. But it sure would be fun to see a video of you going ultralight all the way from the backpack to every piece of gear. It would just be fun to see you experience that and what your takeaways would be from do it. I think you might be surprised on how lightweight you can go and still be quite comfortable. Just a thought for a future video. Or series of videos.😏 Shoot maybe you and Dan could do it together. That would be entertaining.
I have the Baltoro 75, and it is a fantastic backpack, use it for Philmont carries heavyweight in a way that no other bag I have had. Recommended for longer trips.
Call me crazy but the osprey anti gravity packs make me feel like I'm being pulled backward. I got the Gregory Deva (same as Baltoro) and I absolutely love the way it hugs my body but feels like I'm carrying nothing at all. It's so comfy!! My husband just went into REI to upgrade to the Atmos but ended up getting the Baltoro because of it's insane comfortability (and maybe he was a little jealous of my sunglasses holder)!!
Good review. I really like (almost) everything about the Osprey Atmos. Tried it on at my local REI. Great suspension system and very comfortable. The deal-breaker for me is that it has no main compartment access, or very limited. I hate having to reach in from the side and feel around for something or dig down from the top looking for something in the middle of the pack or near the bottom. If they had front access like the other two bags in your review I would buy the Osprey, but as it's currently designed I have to pass.
Yesterday I stopped at REI, went to the garage sale section and what do I see? Like new Osprey Atmos 65 and like new Gregory Baltora 75. Each pack was $135.
I have the beltor 65 and really like it. I also have a mystery ranch day pack ( coulee 25 ) and love it as well. I’m not an expert , more of a beginner backpacker 🤙🏻.
I have the Gregory Baltoro. It's great except the sternum strap won't stay put. I'll strap it across my chest but as I'm hiking it will ride up to my clavicles. The dual straps on the Bridger sounds like a great innovation. That might actually solve my problem.
Bridger 55's shoulder straps were pushing into the inside of my shoulders. The inside of my yoke was loose. It's a matter of fit, just save that receipt...
Was wondering about how long Mystery Ranch has been making backpacks,,,.They seem pretty darn good, eventhough I am spoiled by my ULA Catalyst. Thanks Bro!
Mystery Ranch itself has been making packs since the early 2000’s and have won several military, firefighting, and police contracts. However they are a successor company to Dana Designs which has been making packs all the way back from the 80’s. Hope this helps and is at least a little informative.
I really miss the old Gregory packs with those huge cargo nets. G packs or Z packs? I can't remember. Really stretchy mesh fabric. Huge. You could stuff half the contents of the interior into that mesh cargo netting and I did that a bunch of times. It spoiled me. I need at least some exterior netting to shove layers into. That Mystery Ranch really looks nice with that load bearing system but I need a cargo net!
Is mesh really that good on your back for not sweating? Wouldn't "nothing" be better? I mean it's the shape of the pack's back that makes it not touch your body, right?
Careful with the Mystery Ranch, I'm 6'.0" at shorter torso, long legs/arms, thin build. Neither the Med nor Small size fit me correctly. Purchased a Gregory for fit.
I'm returning mine...the outside shoulder straps were digging into chest and also the yoke is much thinner than I realized. The shoulder strap pockets are not comfortable for water or bear spray because of it.
@@kevinstarski1598 I'm a leisurely backpacker, 5-10 miles in, hike a loop, chill out, three day trips. I figured Gregory was one of the first internal frame packs going back to the days of A-16 in SoCal, so I like my new Gregory pack. Happy trails!
I can't believe no-one is mentioning how much of a pain in the butt the osprey is to get on and off. the shoulder straps d0 not open very much at all due to the cinch straps being so short....even went up a size to L/XL and didn't help any at all and this is mid summer with just a t shirt on, couldn't imagine wearing a jacket.The waist belt springs closed so tight also making it a pain to get on and off. I purchased mine 4 weeks ago, not sure if it has changed since this video. Returned and bought the Baltoro and the straps open so much wider, very easy to get on and off. I myself am new to backpacking and need to take more breaks than more experienced, so I'm sure this makes the problem really stand out to me as I am dropping my pack multiple times a day. I love the AG system the Atmos and really wanted to like this pack, but I just can't deal with getting it on and off. The Baltoro has been awesome for me.
I bought an osprey aether 75 backpack , which I loved. But realized it doesn’t have enough room for everything I desired to carry for a short or even a long backpack trip. So it is now a daypack , I have tried Gregory packs no good for me ! Started looking at other backpacks outside of this realm. I Wish I would of done this sooner. I am a fan of stone glacier packs light durable expand and contract add or delete compartments , the pack I like of there’s is the one I can move bag compartment away from frame if needed to put things besides meat etc in the middle , I do not like things hanging outside of packs
More zippers does not make you a more advanced backpacker. Having less zippers doesn't make a pack geared towards mid and entry level backpackers. I could actually argue that a pack with less zippers makes it geared towards more advanced users. Less zippers equals less failure points and more dependable on hardcore remote expeditions. So in essence the Osprey would be the more advanced user choice.
They have updated the hip belt pockets for the 2022 model, they're no longer too small. They also removed the rain cover (sold separately for $40) and removed the summit pack (also sold separately for another $40).
@@GetUpTheMountains fun fact - I just bought the Baltoro and it includes a rain cover. So either they added it after the users' complaints or it's included only on the european market.
I got the osprey atmos and it started squeaking in the first week. It’s pretty unbearable to listen to and I haven’t seen anyone in the comments mention it. Every time I take a step and transfer some force into it, I hear it right next to my ear. I think it’s the frame at the top, but it’ll squeak around the bottom of the pack too. I’m pretty annoyed. I am sensitive to sounds like that, but It’s bad enough I would expect anyone to get tired of it quick. Only 20lbs in it too. I regret buying it, just wanted to throw that experience out there for anyone looking at it. If anyone who knows how to fix it, I’d really appreciate some pointers. Edit: apparently this happens for some people, but osprey knew what the problem was and said usually they can fix it. Something about the frame rubbing the padding and they inject the frame with foam. But even if they can’t fix it, they pretty much guaranteed a replacement. Super nice people, good customer service, and my experience was a bit of bad luck. Don’t let my sour commentary deter anyone from that pack, it’s very comfortable around the back and Osprey’s lifetime warranty is apparently a real thing. Sorry for bringing the negativity to your channel Eric. Appreciate the content, helps us noobs out a lot.
That must be it 🤦♂️. Couldn't be he either hasn't used it or doesn't agree on it could it?. I mean, people can't have different views or by the sounds of you their own buyer bias.
Sportsman's Warehouse still has them in stock: www.sportsmans.com/camping-gear-supplies/backpacks-bags/backpacking-packs/mystery-ranch-bridger-65-liter-backpacking-pack/p/p246854
I was waiting for this showdown video… I really luv’d the look of the MR but at $350 😳 and limited availability I went with the Gregory Baltoro 2022 model. Was able find it at a great price over $100 less than MR. Happy Trails!
I agree, maybe it’s a new feature. I noticed my Atmos 50L has the same dual zippers as you mentioned above. It’s sort of annoying he doesn’t update his video.
I'm really glad that I scrolled down on this video, him complaining about main compartment access on the Atmos was the one thing that steering me towards the Baltoro. This is great to hear though, I really like the Atmos' suspension system so I think this is going to be the pack that I go with
@@thatroykid no worries. one of the best bags I’ve had on my back. Only things I’ve got to complain about is the zips on the waistband pockets require 2 hands to zip them up. Maybe they’ll wear in. But it means you need to be part contortionist to hold the pocket and zip it. And the top of the bag can make looking up a bit difficult because of the curve in the webbing. But besides them it’s spectacular. Just looking at it makes me wanna go out. 👍🏻
@@Alkelism I'm still going to get to a local shop and try on the Baltoro as well, since one of these will be my first multi-day pack. The thing that I like about the Baltoro is the easy access to the middle of pack, so I can easily get to my camera and drone. I just with the Baltoro had the suspension system of the Atmos, that would probably be my "perfect" backpack, even though there's no such thing lol
I’m curious how all of you feel about this now. Personally, I think the extra access isn’t worth as much as it seems. I pack gear into stuff sacks. So rummaging for a specific sack isn’t a big deal. Generally I like the atmos best of the three. Curious if anyone has new ideas.
I really appreciate you focus on general backpacking. UltraLite backpacks are not for me either. Often I’m carrying some of my kids gear too so comfort, capacity and access are my top considerations. Thanks for repping those of us who just want it to be fun!
I own both the Mystery Ranch Bridger, and Osprey Atmos. My experience is almost the same as yours. The Bridger is the most comfortable pack I've ever worn, and does not feel heavy at all. The Airspeed/AG on the Osprey is like nothing else when it comes to breathability and the way it contours to your back. I've found though the Bridger is simply more comfortable on the shoulders after really long days on the trail. Some feel the Atmos can "sway" some, because of it's separation from your back. But most people don't notice this at all. One thing you didn't get into was the way the Baltoro/Deva (women's version) pack is designed is with a more shaped lumbar support. For some people this is an absolute godsend. For others, it is hard to fit their back. One simply has to try the pack on. They key of course is to buy the pack that fits you best. Agree with you on UL. That is it's own beast, and the LAST place someone should begin if going UL is with your backpack.
For this weight and class of backpacks, definitely am going with the Mystery Ranch. The adjustable back length and the quick zip for sleeping bags not to mention the superior hip belt and quick water bottle access on the chest make this the perfect pack for 3 to 5 days. The design allows for quick access to bulky items like camera cubes and electronics.
The reviewer neglected to mention the most important part of the Atmos pack. It has one of the most customizable fitting systems of any pack on the market, including adjustable back length. The Atmos also allows you to put your water bottle at a 45 degree angle in the side pocket so you can grab it easily. This should have been way more in depth on all the packs.
I'm liking that Gregory pack for being able to access all the gear from the front, being a youtuber myself, I need to get at my camera gear and like that extra access point. I'm using the osprey aether 70 and the zipper doesn't go all the way around and it's a little tough to get at stuff.
Thanks for sharing. I think the Granite Gear Blaze 60 is one backpack on the lighter side that I also recommend to people. It has nice adjustments for people dial it in for comfort, large enough that that they can still load it up until they learn to take what they really need and at 3 pounds, I do not consider it ultralight but a great balance. It is also durable enough to last but cheap enough to not break the bank.
It s nowhere near as comfortable as these packs.also durability is way overrated. Side pockets collect water like they were made for this purpose. Padding is too hard . I have no idea how is this backpack so highly rated. It costs ridiculous money in some countries.
Hi everyone! I have two backpacks. Those are: Osprey Atmos AG 65 L and Deuter Aircontact Pro 70+15 ( model of the year 2015 ). Thank You for the video! Greetings from Poland! Keep hiking! 😉🤠👍
This is a good, balanced. perspective. Agreed that carry system and fit are, by far, the most important things. Mystery Ranch weighs a full pound more than the others, but it might be a "good" pound. My 5 lb Lowe Alpine has been good to me, so I agree that you have found the sweet spot for weight-vs-carry comfort.
I'd say yes... if you're sweating all over... your gear is getting heavier. It's even worse when the temperatures are in the extremes... very cold or very hot.
❤ love this video. Studied every day for 2 years, every backpack, and he's right. It's Osprey, Mystery Ranch, and Gregory. As the best backpack makers. 😂 50 lbs for a 3 day trip is nuts. I live out of my 2000 Gregory Forester. Everything I own weighs 23lbs. That covers 24 hour a day usage. 365 days of hurricanes and heavy sun. Weighed it yesterday on the publix scale. Nicest pack in all of Miami Beach. Gregory is amazing. ❤
Great info! I've been a diehard Mystery Ranch and Osprey fan. My EDC is a MR and My backcountry is an Aether 70 AG that I love. I got it specifically because it does have access to the inner components and has the AG harness. I have yet to find the perfect backpack for either EDC or Backcountry, but you can't go wrong with any you mentioned. I would HIGHLY recommend anyone test the fit before buying! If it doesn't fit your body right, none of these reviews matter! Fit and comfort are crucial for a backpack if you are going to hike any kind of distance.
Excellent video IMO. Many gear channels focus on ultralight, which can work great, but require experience and can be costly. More traditional packs still is the best choice for most beginners.
I'm only 167cm tall with a s/m torso. Can Mystery Ranch be used well? I saw several reviews about the drinking water holder which will be on the shoulder. Is it possible that the bag is only for people who are 175 and above?
Landed on your channel while again when you guys were reviewing the Sea Telos and Alto. Currently looking for a new pack and I told myself oh you check that guy's channel 😂😂. Definitely have my eyes on the Mr Ranch based on the chest feature and the fact that you can open it from the front. I currently have the REI Flash 55 and I've been using it for 6-7 day trips. Love how light it's, but I need a bit more room. Will check our your review on the Mr. Ranch now. :)
@@firemarshaldil I found the information at a retailer site. There's also some info on the European osprey site under "New season style". Actually had to search for the Atmos,, but the women's Aura model is present there. Looks like the access to the main compartment is actually on each side. Also looks like they changed the torso length adjustment, making it less fiddly. Not sure if that's actually new, but they also state it's made from 100% recycled materials.
The Bridger is a 5.5 pound pack! That's the weight of 2.5 liters of water! The price is $350.00! Look for the highly adjustable Osprey Aether, instead of the Osprey Atmos, or even better yet, the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63. I picked up both for under $250 each. I also own packs made by Kelty, Gossamer Gear, Gregory, and others, which are good choices, but the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63 comes out in top for adjustability, storage, water resistance, and how it bio mechanically interacts with your body. I
I am surprised you didn't include the Fjällräven Kajka! It's heavy, but I think its the best backpack on the market and has been for many year. :) I love the Baltoro as well..its amazing! I can't fit Osprey very well, but maybe I will give MR a try and see how it does.. :)
I would love your take and review on the Kelty coyote 85L or 105L backpack. Because I like to take fishing gear with me while backpacking. If you like to. Thanks for your videos love them they make me happy. Your tips help me a lot.
I got a Gregory 80 liter mountaineering backpack 18 years ago, been taking it up and down the canadian rockies and all over BC and Alberta, it has floated in a lake, fallen off a cliff, been shipped full cross country a dozen or more times, still as great as the day I got it. Comfortable, highly adjustable, water PROOF of just resistant. 100% would recommend Gregory
Great video. I love the Osprey for their anti-gravity system. It really reduces the load allowing to move it to the hips instead of the shoulders, as it should be.
I'm not sure how you can review a Mystery Ranch pack without mentioning their heritage: Dana Designs, and Dan Gleason himself. In the 80's there were really only two pack pack manufactures our there: Dana Designs and Gregory (Dana Gleason and Wayne Gregory). Thats it. Just two worth mentioning. Were there others? Yes, but these guys were so far ahead of the curve that there was no reason anyone serious would consider carrying anything else. Gregory is still, IMO, in the top 2 and as companies go, has been the only long standing high-end manufacturer (USA) that has managed to stick around consistently... well, sorta, Wayne sold "Gregory" decades ago and it has changes hands a couple times. But the "company" has been well run and continued to make top-tier packs (The Bartolo is the flagship). Dana Designs took another path, Dana Gleason sold the company and the buyer (K2 I believe) killed it... who knows why but Dana Designs packs disappeared... one of the two best in the world just sorta vanished. Must have made Dana Gleason Furious. Well, lucky Dana Gleason's non-complete must have run out and he started making his packs again under "Mystery Ranch". While Gregory's product line went main stream Mystery Ranch packs have sorta stayed under the radar Partly because most their market development is Military, Hunting and Firefighting... Luckily for all of us they are now back in the swing of producing a full recreational line and they are as bomb-proof as ever (Those that are old enough will get the 'Bomb Pack' reference ;-). The ArcFlex/Light suspensions of the past are gone, replaced with equally amazing modern systems. I carry Gregory Bartolo's for multi-day humps... but if I wear one out (hard to do as I also have a 30 year old Gregory Shasta still going strong) I will definitely pick up a current generation Mystery Ranch Terraplane or a Bridger... Terraplane, Bridger, Glacier... all Packs once produces under "Dana Designs"... Dana - Make the Bombpack again! ;-) Both Mystery and Gregory make the best packs out there... This are better? Both... they are both different and have different attributes. Which are more bomb proof - absolutely Mystery Ranch... but both are built to out last your ability to walk.
What an awesome comment!! Everyone else is saying Osprey this Osprey that. I have MR in my radar for a while now, but didn't think much of Gregory. Until now. Now I have to check it out.
Thanks for the background. Great read. Happy hiking.
I’m curious 🧐.. are you a writer, historian?? Or a bott? 😅Because you narrate facts with precision.. it takes a lot of time to put this together and write it
Absolutely! This guy is great, but all these top RUclipsrs are kids. I literally just threw away my 1996 Terraplane last night.
@@ilustradsn Not a Bot... just an aging gearhead that used to work in a Mtn. shop and sell both Gregory and Dana Designs back in the early 90's. Best job ever... before 'online' killed the local Mtn. Shop (RIP; Swallows Nest, A16 etc etc...Thank G Neptune Mtneering and Nomad Ventures still exist! ). I miss those days and sometimes I can't help myself.
I absolutely love my Gregory Deva (women's version of the Baltoro)! I am an organizational freak so all those pockets and front access are perfect. In addition, I am 50 years old and just got back into backpacking last summer, after 25 years of not backpacking. Used an old external frame pack from the 90s back then. But hey, I'd like a few "creature features" when I'm out in the backcountry now, like a chair, or God forbid, an extra pair or two of socks 🤣. These newer packs carry loads like a dream!
I have this pack too! So comfortable and lots of fit options. The outfitter switched out the shoulder straps (free of charge) to get the best fit for me.
Maybe he can do a women’s specific gear video… 🤔
@@jenniferbostrom759 I had my straps switched out, free of charge, too! The hipbelts can be swapped for different sizes too, but the original one was good for me. REI was super helpful in getting the fit perfect for me.
I spent a lot of time researching backpacks before I landed on the Osprey Atmos 65L and have no regrets. I spent a week on a grueling trail here in Ontario, Canada and while I most likely overpacked (around 48 lbs), this pack carried the weight beautifully. While the full zip on the other packs is a good idea and great when packing, I typically keep all of my essential items I might need in accessible areas. Everything else in the middle or at the bottom doesn't come out until I get to camp. Love the size because its also great for winter trips, lots of room for bulkier gear. Thanks for the great videos.
Can confirm the trails in Ontario can be gruelling. Also hike them.
I have the Gregory...as a older hiker, 67, I've used it ...10 years? and had several back injuries and I've found the suspension system works very well for me.
Enjoyed your reviews!
I have the atmos and its been my favorite pack. Love the breathability, the way it fits on my hip and the way it takes the weight off my lower back. Holds alot , has proven to be durable and its just a great pack. I have a bad back and it allows me to perform so much better and longer
Ha! Funny opening to the video. I’m an Osprey guy, so I’m biased, but as a well seasoned backpacker who’s hiked around the US & world, the Atmos is still my favorite go to backpack for multi-day excursions. Just super comfortable. I don’t mind that it doesn’t have front panel access to the middle of the pack. It’s not THAT hard to get stuff from the pack compared to others. When I wanna go really light, I have my Talon & Exos packs from Osprey. So I’m covered for pretty much for all my hiking needs. 👍🏼
Love your channel and the variety of things you do on it.
I know being ultralight is not your style which I completely respect.
But it sure would be fun to see a video of you going ultralight all the way from the backpack to every piece of gear. It would just be fun to see you experience that and what your takeaways would be from do it.
I think you might be surprised on how lightweight you can go and still be quite comfortable.
Just a thought for a future video. Or series of videos.😏
Shoot maybe you and Dan could do it together. That would be entertaining.
Check out this Ultralight Backpack review: ruclips.net/video/ZDajoatEz24/видео.html
Man same thought when I saw that mystery ranch pack I immediately said that looks like a comfy ride. Great content man!
I have the Baltoro 75, and it is a fantastic backpack, use it for Philmont carries heavyweight in a way that no other bag I have had. Recommended for longer trips.
That Mystery Back Pack looks very heavy duty and nice. I'm sure it carries the weight well.
It excels at carrying heavy loads!
The Atmos AG 65 now has side zips to access the main compartment :D
Call me crazy but the osprey anti gravity packs make me feel like I'm being pulled backward. I got the Gregory Deva (same as Baltoro) and I absolutely love the way it hugs my body but feels like I'm carrying nothing at all. It's so comfy!! My husband just went into REI to upgrade to the Atmos but ended up getting the Baltoro because of it's insane comfortability (and maybe he was a little jealous of my sunglasses holder)!!
haha yeah that sunglasses holder is legit!
Good review. I really like (almost) everything about the Osprey Atmos. Tried it on at my local REI. Great suspension system and very comfortable. The deal-breaker for me is that it has no main compartment access, or very limited. I hate having to reach in from the side and feel around for something or dig down from the top looking for something in the middle of the pack or near the bottom. If they had front access like the other two bags in your review I would buy the Osprey, but as it's currently designed I have to pass.
Very helpful. Thank you. Will try the Bridger as I need comfort, though they all 3 seem good. 💪🏽👏🏼🥾
If you want to be able to get into the center of your osprey pack, the aether is the cousin to the atmos and has the fully opening front zip.
I love your takes on the Mystery Ranch packs! I’ve been a dedicated MR guy since I took a Dana Terapane on the AT. Love your stuff, keep on going!
Yesterday I stopped at REI, went to the garage sale section and what do I see? Like new Osprey Atmos 65 and like new Gregory Baltora 75. Each pack was $135.
I have the beltor 65 and really like it. I also have a mystery ranch day pack ( coulee 25 ) and love it as well. I’m not an expert , more of a beginner backpacker 🤙🏻.
Enjoyed the video. I have multiple Baltoros (different capacities). I'm hooked on Gregory.
I have the Gregory Baltoro. It's great except the sternum strap won't stay put. I'll strap it across my chest but as I'm hiking it will ride up to my clavicles. The dual straps on the Bridger sounds like a great innovation. That might actually solve my problem.
Bridger 55's shoulder straps were pushing into the inside of my shoulders. The inside of my yoke was loose. It's a matter of fit, just save that receipt...
What is the hoodie Eric is wearing? Looks nice and I want one!
I've been looking for something to replace my old A.L.I.C.E. pack. 😅
The Atmos AG 65 has an updated version which removes the lid flap and has side access to the main compartments. 0.1kg more though.
Granite Gear Blaze 60 can be added to that list
Mystery Ranch ALL THE WAY!
Def.
But so many straps and buckles I feel like I'm in a straight jacket lol
I now use the new exos 48 far more comfortable for me and a joy to wear
Was wondering about how long Mystery Ranch has been making backpacks,,,.They seem pretty darn good, eventhough I am spoiled by my ULA Catalyst. Thanks Bro!
Mystery Ranch itself has been making packs since the early 2000’s and have won several military, firefighting, and police contracts. However they are a successor company to Dana Designs which has been making packs all the way back from the 80’s. Hope this helps and is at least a little informative.
I really miss the old Gregory packs with those huge cargo nets. G packs or Z packs? I can't remember. Really stretchy mesh fabric. Huge. You could stuff half the contents of the interior into that mesh cargo netting and I did that a bunch of times. It spoiled me. I need at least some exterior netting to shove layers into. That Mystery Ranch really looks nice with that load bearing system but I need a cargo net!
Very nice review!:) I have the 2020 baltore 95pro, and it carries the weight very well, i can carrie it fully loaded, and i am only 174cm 70kg
I'm rocking a $40 mountain top 70 liter backpack that I found at a pawn shop lol
Hello, I have the Osprey Atmos 65 L. It is a wonderful pack. I wish it was lighter.
how do these three compare to the osprey aether?
Is mesh really that good on your back for not sweating? Wouldn't "nothing" be better? I mean it's the shape of the pack's back that makes it not touch your body, right?
Careful with the Mystery Ranch, I'm 6'.0" at shorter torso, long legs/arms, thin build. Neither the Med nor Small size fit me correctly. Purchased a Gregory for fit.
I'm returning mine...the outside shoulder straps were digging into chest and also the yoke is much thinner than I realized. The shoulder strap pockets are not comfortable for water or bear spray because of it.
@@kevinstarski1598 I'm a leisurely backpacker, 5-10 miles in, hike a loop, chill out, three day trips. I figured Gregory was one of the first internal frame packs going back to the days of A-16 in SoCal, so I like my new Gregory pack. Happy trails!
You keep saying for 2-5 day backpacking. What do you got for trail dogs out on 9 day stints carrying an extra 20 pounds of metal?
Bridger vs Glacier MR
I can't believe no-one is mentioning how much of a pain in the butt the osprey is to get on and off. the shoulder straps d0 not open very much at all due to the cinch straps being so short....even went up a size to L/XL and didn't help any at all and this is mid summer with just a t shirt on, couldn't imagine wearing a jacket.The waist belt springs closed so tight also making it a pain to get on and off. I purchased mine 4 weeks ago, not sure if it has changed since this video. Returned and bought the Baltoro and the straps open so much wider, very easy to get on and off. I myself am new to backpacking and need to take more breaks than more experienced, so I'm sure this makes the problem really stand out to me as I am dropping my pack multiple times a day. I love the AG system the Atmos and really wanted to like this pack, but I just can't deal with getting it on and off. The Baltoro has been awesome for me.
Is there a special reason for not having Fjällräven backs in your line-up? Just wondering if you tried them out and how they compare.
You need to try klattermusen or Lundhags, let me know after what is the best backpack :)
9:15 My Osprey Atoms 50L has side zippers so I can access the larger middle. Does the 65L not come with that feature?
Hi there, Love your videos. Where do you get your pants and shirts?
I believe 40-50L is the best size. It’s usually only full only at the first day, because of the food.
Hey bro what’s a good travel backpack to travel to Europe 2-3 weeks
Where I can buy mystery ranch to ship up to Indonesia
Does that come in a 40 or 50
I bought an osprey aether 75 backpack , which I loved. But realized it doesn’t have enough room for everything I desired to carry for a short or even a long backpack trip. So it is now a daypack , I have tried Gregory packs no good for me ! Started looking at other backpacks outside of this realm. I Wish I would of done this sooner. I am a fan of stone glacier packs light durable expand and contract add or delete compartments , the pack I like of there’s is the one I can move bag compartment away from frame if needed to put things besides meat etc in the middle , I do not like things hanging outside of packs
A 75 liter daypack? That is insane. What do you carry for a day hike?
@@lyman135 a whole lot of unnecessary shit. lol
Great review.
More zippers does not make you a more advanced backpacker. Having less zippers doesn't make a pack geared towards mid and entry level backpackers. I could actually argue that a pack with less zippers makes it geared towards more advanced users. Less zippers equals less failure points and more dependable on hardcore remote expeditions. So in essence the Osprey would be the more advanced user choice.
Awesome stuff. Welcome to my home county 😊
Baltoro is a bad ass heavy hauler bag. The hip pockets are atill too small though for most phones.
They have updated the hip belt pockets for the 2022 model, they're no longer too small. They also removed the rain cover (sold separately for $40) and removed the summit pack (also sold separately for another $40).
@@GetUpTheMountains fun fact - I just bought the Baltoro and it includes a rain cover. So either they added it after the users' complaints or it's included only on the european market.
Do you have a list for expert backpacks? What constitutes being an expert backpacker?
... that you are no longer a "pert" ...
.. ex-pert ..
@@rockytopwrangler2069 an ex is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure :)
@@bob_the_bomb4508 guess I am an expert then
I got the osprey atmos and it started squeaking in the first week. It’s pretty unbearable to listen to and I haven’t seen anyone in the comments mention it. Every time I take a step and transfer some force into it, I hear it right next to my ear. I think it’s the frame at the top, but it’ll squeak around the bottom of the pack too. I’m pretty annoyed. I am sensitive to sounds like that, but It’s bad enough I would expect anyone to get tired of it quick. Only 20lbs in it too. I regret buying it, just wanted to throw that experience out there for anyone looking at it. If anyone who knows how to fix it, I’d really appreciate some pointers.
Edit: apparently this happens for some people, but osprey knew what the problem was and said usually they can fix it. Something about the frame rubbing the padding and they inject the frame with foam. But even if they can’t fix it, they pretty much guaranteed a replacement. Super nice people, good customer service, and my experience was a bit of bad luck. Don’t let my sour commentary deter anyone from that pack, it’s very comfortable around the back and Osprey’s lifetime warranty is apparently a real thing.
Sorry for bringing the negativity to your channel Eric. Appreciate the content, helps us noobs out a lot.
Hmm. I don't know how to fix that issue. That stinks if it's unbearably bad. Try customer service from Osprey?
lol Wayne Gregory is my grandpa
Why the Berghaus Vulcan is not in that number?
Are you scared of the best backpack ever???
That must be it 🤦♂️. Couldn't be he either hasn't used it or doesn't agree on it could it?. I mean, people can't have different views or by the sounds of you their own buyer bias.
$270... mine cost $320... must have went up... bought last week
Curious for some sub $200 packs.
오 백패킹 배낭으로 실용적이네요...
Baltoro 65L retails for $319, not $299.
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Отличный обзор рюкзаков. Понравилась ортопедическая система спинок. Сочетание материалов - 🔥
But there is a new atmos osprey 2022
Hill people gear ute v2
🤔......
Bridger packs are all "out of stock" ..
Sportsman's Warehouse still has them in stock: www.sportsmans.com/camping-gear-supplies/backpacks-bags/backpacking-packs/mystery-ranch-bridger-65-liter-backpacking-pack/p/p246854
Does the Osprey Aether 65 fit into this category? If so, how does it stack up?
I was waiting for this showdown video… I really luv’d the look of the MR but at $350 😳 and limited availability I went with the Gregory Baltoro 2022 model. Was able find it at a great price over $100 less than MR. Happy Trails!
I bought the Atmos 65XL 3 weeks ago it’s had the access to the main compartment upgraded. It now has 2 access points into it. One in either side. 👍🏻
I agree, maybe it’s a new feature. I noticed my Atmos 50L has the same dual zippers as you mentioned above. It’s sort of annoying he doesn’t update his video.
I'm really glad that I scrolled down on this video, him complaining about main compartment access on the Atmos was the one thing that steering me towards the Baltoro. This is great to hear though, I really like the Atmos' suspension system so I think this is going to be the pack that I go with
@@thatroykid no worries. one of the best bags I’ve had on my back. Only things I’ve got to complain about is the zips on the waistband pockets require 2 hands to zip them up. Maybe they’ll wear in. But it means you need to be part contortionist to hold the pocket and zip it. And the top of the bag can make looking up a bit difficult because of the curve in the webbing. But besides them it’s spectacular. Just looking at it makes me wanna go out. 👍🏻
@@Alkelism I'm still going to get to a local shop and try on the Baltoro as well, since one of these will be my first multi-day pack. The thing that I like about the Baltoro is the easy access to the middle of pack, so I can easily get to my camera and drone. I just with the Baltoro had the suspension system of the Atmos, that would probably be my "perfect" backpack, even though there's no such thing lol
I’m curious how all of you feel about this now. Personally, I think the extra access isn’t worth as much as it seems. I pack gear into stuff sacks. So rummaging for a specific sack isn’t a big deal. Generally I like the atmos best of the three. Curious if anyone has new ideas.
I really appreciate you focus on general backpacking. UltraLite backpacks are not for me either. Often I’m carrying some of my kids gear too so comfort, capacity and access are my top considerations.
Thanks for repping those of us who just want it to be fun!
I own both the Mystery Ranch Bridger, and Osprey Atmos. My experience is almost the same as yours. The Bridger is the most comfortable pack I've ever worn, and does not feel heavy at all. The Airspeed/AG on the Osprey is like nothing else when it comes to breathability and the way it contours to your back. I've found though the Bridger is simply more comfortable on the shoulders after really long days on the trail. Some feel the Atmos can "sway" some, because of it's separation from your back. But most people don't notice this at all.
One thing you didn't get into was the way the Baltoro/Deva (women's version) pack is designed is with a more shaped lumbar support. For some people this is an absolute godsend. For others, it is hard to fit their back. One simply has to try the pack on.
They key of course is to buy the pack that fits you best.
Agree with you on UL. That is it's own beast, and the LAST place someone should begin if going UL is with your backpack.
For this weight and class of backpacks, definitely am going with the Mystery Ranch. The adjustable back length and the quick zip for sleeping bags not to mention the superior hip belt and quick water bottle access on the chest make this the perfect pack for 3 to 5 days. The design allows for quick access to bulky items like camera cubes and electronics.
The reviewer neglected to mention the most important part of the Atmos pack. It has one of the most customizable fitting systems of any pack on the market, including adjustable back length. The Atmos also allows you to put your water bottle at a 45 degree angle in the side pocket so you can grab it easily. This should have been way more in depth on all the packs.
That's one of the most interesting innovations I've seen. Going to be hard to copy.
I'm liking that Gregory pack for being able to access all the gear from the front, being a youtuber myself, I need to get at my camera gear and like that extra access point. I'm using the osprey aether 70 and the zipper doesn't go all the way around and it's a little tough to get at stuff.
FYI…The Baltoro has a sweet removable shelf over the sleeping bag compartment that can hold an ICU square in the middle or your back.
I'm still rocking my Osprey Atmos 50L from 2001!!!!
I wish I could find a review of the mystery ranch from someone other than a sponsored person
agree
Thanks for sharing. I think the Granite Gear Blaze 60 is one backpack on the lighter side that I also recommend to people. It has nice adjustments for people dial it in for comfort, large enough that that they can still load it up until they learn to take what they really need and at 3 pounds, I do not consider it ultralight but a great balance. It is also durable enough to last but cheap enough to not break the bank.
It s nowhere near as comfortable as these packs.also durability is way overrated. Side pockets collect water like they were made for this purpose. Padding is too hard . I have no idea how is this backpack so highly rated. It costs ridiculous money in some countries.
Hi everyone! I have two backpacks. Those are: Osprey Atmos AG 65 L and Deuter Aircontact Pro 70+15 ( model of the year 2015 ). Thank You for the video! Greetings from Poland! Keep hiking! 😉🤠👍
Good reviews, but it would be helpful if you showed how well (or if) bear cans fit in these since so many places require their use now. Cheers
You can fit 48 beer cans in these, lol
This is a good, balanced. perspective.
Agreed that carry system and fit are, by far, the most important things.
Mystery Ranch weighs a full pound more than the others, but it might be a "good" pound.
My 5 lb Lowe Alpine has been good to me, so I agree that you have found the sweet spot for weight-vs-carry comfort.
big question. Do you think the breathability of the Atmos is very significant as compared to the Bridger?
I'd say yes... if you're sweating all over... your gear is getting heavier. It's even worse when the temperatures are in the extremes... very cold or very hot.
The Baltoro is my go to now. Abita heavy like you said but the added features and the water bottle holder you can't go wrong.
bought a 2021 Baltoro on sale when new. Still has the tags on it, work related injury kept me out of the woods since 2021!
❤ love this video. Studied every day for 2 years, every backpack, and he's right. It's Osprey, Mystery Ranch, and Gregory. As the best backpack makers.
😂 50 lbs for a 3 day trip is nuts. I live out of my 2000 Gregory Forester. Everything I own weighs 23lbs. That covers 24 hour a day usage. 365 days of hurricanes and heavy sun. Weighed it yesterday on the publix scale. Nicest pack in all of Miami Beach. Gregory is amazing. ❤
I have the 2022 Atmos 50 and it has full length zippers on both sides to access the inside of the back.
I have the osprey aether 70
And Iove it
Super comfortable
Great ruck sack from osprey
👏👏👏
Great info! I've been a diehard Mystery Ranch and Osprey fan. My EDC is a MR and My backcountry is an Aether 70 AG that I love. I got it specifically because it does have access to the inner components and has the AG harness. I have yet to find the perfect backpack for either EDC or Backcountry, but you can't go wrong with any you mentioned. I would HIGHLY recommend anyone test the fit before buying! If it doesn't fit your body right, none of these reviews matter! Fit and comfort are crucial for a backpack if you are going to hike any kind of distance.
100%
Now we need an Aether vs. Baltoro Pro vs. Terraplane.
65 L for 2 to 5 days….. That’s cute. 😜
Excellent video IMO. Many gear channels focus on ultralight, which can work great, but require experience and can be costly. More traditional packs still is the best choice for most beginners.
I'm only 167cm tall with a s/m torso. Can Mystery Ranch be used well? I saw several reviews about the drinking water holder which will be on the shoulder. Is it possible that the bag is only for people who are 175 and above?
Landed on your channel while again when you guys were reviewing the Sea Telos and Alto. Currently looking for a new pack and I told myself oh you check that guy's channel 😂😂. Definitely have my eyes on the Mr Ranch based on the chest feature and the fact that you can open it from the front. I currently have the REI Flash 55 and I've been using it for 6-7 day trips. Love how light it's, but I need a bit more room. Will check our your review on the Mr. Ranch now. :)
I'll ask again do you have any mystery ranch backpacks that you did not like?
lol
Apparently there's a new version of the Atmos for 2022 that adds front (or back, depending on how you look at it) access to the main compartment.
thats the second time ive seen reference to there being more info on 2022 releases of osprey packs, any idea where the info is posted?
@@firemarshaldil I found the information at a retailer site. There's also some info on the European osprey site under "New season style". Actually had to search for the Atmos,, but the women's Aura model is present there. Looks like the access to the main compartment is actually on each side. Also looks like they changed the torso length adjustment, making it less fiddly. Not sure if that's actually new, but they also state it's made from 100% recycled materials.
Ounces equal pounds and pounds of padding and harness & suspension features equals comfort.
Mt man here watching 👍👍 still got my pack the rock from year 09 still going strong
The rokk
Just got a Bridger. Can’t wait to try it!
Excellent! Enjoy it!
Bridger or Terraplane 65 from Mystery Ranch? :)
The Bridger is a 5.5 pound pack!
That's the weight of 2.5 liters of water!
The price is $350.00!
Look for the highly adjustable Osprey Aether, instead of the Osprey Atmos, or even better yet, the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63.
I picked up both for under $250 each.
I also own packs made by Kelty, Gossamer Gear, Gregory, and others, which are good choices, but the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63 comes out in top for adjustability, storage, water resistance, and how it bio mechanically interacts with your body.
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I am surprised you didn't include the Fjällräven Kajka! It's heavy, but I think its the best backpack on the market and has been for many year. :)
I love the Baltoro as well..its amazing! I can't fit Osprey very well, but maybe I will give MR a try and see how it does.. :)
Probably can't pronounce it
I would love your take and review on the Kelty coyote 85L or 105L backpack. Because I like to take fishing gear with me while backpacking. If you like to. Thanks for your videos love them they make me happy. Your tips help me a lot.