I recommended this to you on Twitter weeks ago I can't wait to watch- this is the 3rd one I've seen you do from my city Edit 1- this is the third F CPD had received Edit 2- there is a much longer video it's pretty crazy during the take down and when the 2nd officer arrives on scene
actual he did what everyone would do. it is just that he happened to bump into a bunch of idiots. I would say the cop had a history with atf and did this on purpose.
Agree, dude knew the feds usually are more well trained and have their shit together. He was like, I’ll call these bumbling ass county cops who hire any dumb 18+ year old, send em thru a quick academy and turn em lose with a gun…they are bound to bungle this up with an ego trip while I slip out the back door with the shotgun! You can hear the ego/power tripping in that cops voice while he was ordering the atf agent down on the ground. After the situation calmed down, you could also tell by how he was frantically trying to get his peers to assure him he did right, that as the adrenaline wore off and his brain started functioning again he was like “oh fuck he really is a federal agent, I just pulled a gun on a federal ATF agent, I might be screwed” Love these videos
That officer is straight PANICKING the whole time. Stuttering his words like a kid in a principal’s office. Dude had no business being a potentially lethal hand of the state.
@@a1bin0tadp0l3if someone is not supposed to be in possession of a firearm… then he is doing his job and serving the community. Obviously they aren’t supposed to have a firearm for a reason
@@a1bin0tadp0l3 They both deserve to be arrested, the guy who shouldn't own a gun and the agent who was stupid enough to refuse orders from another cop despite the fact that he was plainclothes and they had no way of knowing he was an officer.
it's just a mess... Cop: " get on the ground!" ATF: "I'm a federal agent" Cop: "Show me ID!" ATF: *reaches for ID Cop: " Get your hand away from your pocket!" 🙃
@@hypezmalhab5315 the cop I'd give an F, infact I'd suspend him and make him retrain. The ATF agent I'd give a C for not complying. Nobody was the better man here.
Those “de-escalation” training classes seem to work very well. Within seconds, cop has gun pointed at man and demanding him to the ground. That’s the type of cop who mistakes his taser for his gun and kills someone.
You can tell how juiced up the first-arriving officer was by how much the adrenaline kept flowing after the federal agent was handcuffed and enclosed in the squad car. His fellow officer tells him, "Don't even argue with him (the agent)."
Order of operations: 1. Make contact with subject 2. Draw firearm immediately 3. Deploy taser into subject 4. Force subject into back of car. 5. Now figure out who the subject is. I think maybe 5 should be up there above 2
Actually, if everyone wants to be technical, he’s an “ATF Special Agent” as Federal Special Agents have federal LEO powers as defined by the roles assigned to their organization. So, yes, he technically is police. Additionally, many federal LEOs have “POLICE” written in BOLD letters on the backs of their jackets, so nobody will be confused when they shout “get on the ****ing ground now!”
"First thing he should have got his badges out when I got here" LMAO You were holding him at gunpoint telling him NOT TO REACH FOR HIS PANTS. This cop is WAY overreacting in my opinion.
Reminds me of the guy who was murdered by cops in Arizona a few years ago. They were shouting conflicting commands at him and he was flustered and didn't know what to do.
"Why didn't you show me your ID?" "You didn't ask. Do you want to see it?" "DO NOT REACH FOR YOUR ID!!" Can we get a different cop here? This one is broken.
That's why you get on the ground if they even guess he has a gun while drawing whatever he would had they would shoot him instantly in a way it would be like shooting himself if he grabbed his ID. By searching him they have 0 risk that he would shoot them, Besides if he's ATF he more then likely has a gun. If you so as much see said gun I feel anyone would consider that a threat. All of this could of been avoided if he was just calm and he sounded really violent and aruged every single second literally even when they were away from him.
*There I fixed it* "Why didn't you show me your ID *when I got here*?" "You didn't ask. ***********?" *...Almost a minute later.... moves hand toward waist AND THEN says... I got my ID* 4:46 "DO NOT REACH FOR YOUR ID!!" *This cop is EXTREMELY cautious and has great training to resist immediately firing upon his reach*
But the officer did ask multiple times to see ID, all they know is they have a call about someone impersonating or at least that's what he said, but drawing his gun wasn't necessary
@@jamesf791 He's clearly concerned about him potentially (ie: high probability) being Federal LE and the clustefck way he handled it all as attending officer.
@@r0ky_M - But he also repeatedly tried to blame his behavior on the ATF agent. I think that the agent should've identified himself in a more professional manner, but the responding officer's conduct was exponentially worse (including not allowing the agent to produce ID and then lying about it).
With all due respect, the level of paranoia that is displayed in the US IS incredible. Police officers immediately pull out their guns and seem unable to de-escalate any situation.
@@chuckinshanks you don't understand, unlawful orders don't simply go unheard. This is what you do, you voice that what the officer is doing is not lawful, you can describe why, you do as he says, then you later sue and win...
@P Reese My mom told me something: Treat any interaction with a cop like you would if you ran into a dangerous wild animal that could attack without provocation. If approached by a cop- Move slowly, keep your voice and attitude calm and quiet, even if the cop is screaming and angry. If they tell you to put your hands up, do it and dont drop them for any reason. Even if you are doing nothing wrong and they are being an a**hole or aggressive, dont argue. Its more important you come home alive than prove the cop wrong. I live my life by those rules.
It couldn't have been said more perfectly maybe these officers need to get retrained cuz he doesn't know what the heck he's doing or even though the law and that matter
@P Reese yeah fuck that. Those cips deserved some of the harsher mid 2000s vocabulary. If you love through that gaming period. You will know what I'm referring too. Lmao smh. Sucks. But it's true.
Here's my issue. You can see the local cop reach and pull his gun as he gets out of his cruiser, and once he asked for ID, when the federal agent went to get it, he told him to to reach for it. That local cop clearly didn't care that he was in the wrong.
And honestly I would feel bad except that guy works for the ATF so honestly they could have shot him and I wouldn’t have cared less. At 10:49 the family talks about how he was threatening them, these pieces of shit do this for a living.
They mindlessly recite a script, just like when they scream “stop resisting” when there’s no resistance. But that’s what you get when there’s a maximum IQ of 80 allowed for cops.
Totally agree with you. ATF: I am a federal agent! Police: show me your ID. When the ATF agent tried to reach for his ID, then the police yelled "DO NOT REACH FOR YOUR POCKET!" Throughout this whole time, the poor ATF agent kept saying: let me show you my credential. WTF!!
Truth, Facts and Common Sense........ the owner of the illegally owned firearm posed a greater risk to the ATF Agent and the Police, but isn't it typical of the egos! Wepons drawn and "Get on the Ground!" and "I'm not getting on the Ground!" Stun gun to the rescue whilst there's a person who has an illegally owned firearm behind a shut door, less than 30' away! This is Glorious! Watching them fight amongst themselves! Perhaps they'll see how "we the people" have been abused at their hands for years! But I doubt it! Just doing my job doesn't cut it when your first reaction is......... Guns drawn, escalate to vicious, violent assult, Judge Jury and Executioner! We are having to teach ourselves and our children, our Legal and Constitutionally protected rights! To protect ourselves and our children from the Law Enforcement Agencies who are employed to uphold the Law and our Constitutional Rights! Ironical!
@@MrEAW56 Those genius Cops were notified of Agent Burke's name and his Federal Badge number when they were dispatched to the scene. They showed up acting hostile and they didn't allow the Federal Agent to show them his credentials. You couldn't be smoking ANYTHING, because YOU NEED TO WAKE UP, FIRST !
The Police Officer was referring to a Federal Agent as a Police Officer. They aren't exactly the same thing, though. Federal Agents call themselves Federal Agents. They don't refer to themselves as Police Officers, though. If you call one a Police Officer, they will correct you and say, "That's a different profession". or "I'm not an Officer, I'm an Agent". They DO NOT want to be associated with any of the clowns who are regularly allowed to become Police Officers and intentionally violate their own policies and regulations and they disobey the US Constitution, and falsely detain citizens in order to violate their rights. Cops are constantly in court for abusing their power against the people they are swarn to protect. They sometimes claim to accidentally fire their weapon, and accidentally kill innocent people. Federal Agents are much more professional. They are trained better. They don't (typically) act that way, but Police Officers (typically) do !
Guy pulls his weapon out 11 seconds after his car door closes, how can anyone justify that as good police work when the other person is in a non threatening position?
The initial officer is terrible. He kept interrupting after he asked a question. Why he feels the need to repeatedly say , “if he’s a real police officer, he should be ashamed” shows a guilty conscience.
The freak actually said “he should have had his badge out when I got here.” Dude, you had a gun on him when you got there. You told him to keep his hands up. At what point was the guy supposed to get his badge out of his pocket without becoming target practice for you?
"You should have showed me your creds!!!" "I asked if you wanted me to grab them for you and you told me no!!!" Logic is not a pre-requisite to be a cop.
hence why a drawn weapon aimed at a person as form of an uncalled for escalation should be charged for reckless endangerment. If you know to not point your gun at something you want dead then them escalation like that should be considered such.
@@sana-cm7oc Fed shouldn't have put up a fuss, but cops shouldn't have immediately escalated to drawn guns. Everyone's in the wrong here and it just shows how broken our system really is that someone is inevitably going to be declared "right" in the end.
All that mattered was that he "get on the ground", that he bow before their almighty authoritah. Even when he finally did kneel, after repeatedly offering to show credentials, they tased him to punish him. End qualified immunity. Compliance tasing needs to be criminalized. Self defense only.
@@utubepunk But the conservative Justices say over and over again that The Supreme Court should not legislate by creating law. What liars. I guess it only applies when the Liberal Justices think up something new. Qualified Immunity was plucked out of the air, had no precedent.
Without compliance tasing, many female officers would have no method of downing non-compliant perps. You'd have even more comical scenes where a guy is walking away from a crime scene with multiple female cops clinging to his ankles, failing to stop him.
The ATF agent was put in a “no win” situation by the local. The local wanted his creds but wouldn’t let him show them and also didn’t even get them himself. Another local cop scared of his shadow. Then the local gaslights him with “why did you make us do this”.
@@tdog652041 They throw out several commands in a matter of seconds so the victim can't comply and they get to escalate the encounter to a higher level.
The officer whose bodycam footage was provided in the video needs psychiatric evaluation, he sounds anxious, paranoid, enraged, and on the verge of tears throughout the entirety of this video. Completely blasphemous.
@@publiozinj4882 he didn’t need too. All he had to do was keep his hands in the air which he did. Cop was not in the right to demand for him to get on the ground
@@marcocruz7835 I know a guy who got shot in the neck, getting his wallet/DL..as requested by these dumbfucks. Now a quadriplegic, he got 8 million, lawyer probably took 3.
@@ClanBez federal agent, the cops should have got on the ground by rights. They are lucky it was just the one agent rather than an atf squad, fucking with those guys gets ya shot and it would have been justified.
"PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR DONT REACH INTO YOUR WAIST" "You never once tried identifying yourself" well no shit, he can either keep his hands up or he can show you his ID lol
These idiot cops were egotistical and trigger happy given how they tasered the ATF Agent when he was being handcuffed. If they shot him if he tried to get his credentials its clear as day the ATF would be pursuing murder charges.
Lol at the cop who says he should've had his badge out already when before he could even finish his first sentence pulled his gun then was voice cracking the whole time. Man's is a joke
@@DS-lk1cg see that's where people have been fucked over....if you fuck up and Paul your debr to society your rights should be given back...the fact that they can he taken away means they were never rights at all...
That cop is the biggest wimp I've ever seen! He was at 100' from the jump! His voice was still cracking 30 minutes afterward. He doesn't have the intestinal fortitude for the job. He's a danger to himself, his fellow officers and the public
Give a coward a gun and when he’s out of his depth through a total lack of communication ,common sense , policing skills and bottle then he’s going to hide behind his weapon . These fools need taking off the force .
They need training properly. It's absolutely ridiculous that their opening plan is to scream at someone with their guns drawn. They had his name and badge number beforehand, too. It's no wonder whatsoever that so many people get unecessarily shot by police in the US.
There are bad cops for sure, but since body cams have become a thing 999 times out of 1000 it shows the perpetrator that is making false claims about police misconduct. I feel like the ATF dude should have just complied with getting on the ground and then sorted it out. The arresting officers maybe could have acted more calmly, however he doesn't know the guy is truly a fed yet and is instead there on a call and believes he is dealing with a criminal. The ATF guy complying and allowing the cop to determine his status would have fixed this from the get-go.
Dude, the arriving officer IMMEDIATELY drew his firearm on the agent then while pointing the firearm at the agent didn’t let the agent provide his credentials or identification. Just wow. That’s fucking nuts. 😂
@@MrErichonda30 That’s understandable. All the officer had to do was listen to what the agent had to say. Having his gun drawn on the agent was more than enough to ensure the officers safety.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it 100 times more… a scared cop is a very dangerous cop. This cop was obviously terrified. Not only terrified but also cocky. He sounded like a 13 year old boy yelling at that fed..voice cracking and so pitchy. He shouldn’t be a cop. He’s going to ruin his life one day (among others) being as trigger happy as he seems to be. Hopefully the fed wins the case and it’s enough to get this cop off the streets before somebody gets killed. He’s beyond the help of any training or anger management courses or anything like that.
@What saith the scripture? did you not watch the video? Your only mad about the gun thing im guessing, even though they also regulate tobacco, alcohol, and explosives. But the atf only takes guns from people who shouldnt have them, so unless your a person that shouldnt have a gun, why are you so worried about losing your gun?
Right, I've always told my children that the scariest person is someone in a desperate/scary situation where they feel backed in a corner or feel they have no other options. This cops fear put him in a bad place. Too bad it wasn't april 19th,
I mean, the Columbus cop did follow his procedures and department policy correctly. When they receive a call of a potential burglar that is armed with a gun, the cops are well within their right to approach the scene with guns drawn like he did to secure the suspect, and then afterwards figure out the facts of who's who and what's what. Most people just don't agree with the policy. Everyone saying the cop is wrong for what he did, but what they really don't understand is it's the department policy they disagree with. This is very similar to what happened with the Clayton County officer incident, the community was outraged that the cop approached the teens with gun drawn until the police chief addressed the public saying the cop was well within his rights to approach them with his gun drawn because the original call said the teens had a gun. If so many people disagree with this policy they should take up politics and try to legislate a different policy into place, but I will say legislation like that is usually unlikely to pass as it puts the officers more at risk.
@@getbuck7473 I don't disagree with the policy, I just think it's satisfying to see a bully in uniform get treated like law abiding citizens have been treated for years. Make of my comment what you will, but the American people have had enough. Voting people out of office rarely does any good. These thugs are so entrenched in power at this point. That's just how most of us feel, right or wrong.
@@bayoulafourche well if you don't feel like your vote is making a difference you should consider taking up politics and try to legislate a change that will make you feel better. By the way when you mention that "Voting people out of office rarely does any good. These thugs are so entrenched in power at this point.", you're kind of insinuating that you don't agree with the policy(the way the Columbus officer handled this situation) and that different politicians aren't changing the procedures officers should take to handle calls like this the way you feel they should.
I think this officer in particular really shows how cops can be the masters of gaslighting. Asking “why would you make us do this,” when escalating the situation was 100% their fault. Imagine how you would feel hearing this if you were just an ordinary citizen instead of a trained federal agent. Just goes to show how easily power can be abused by police today and that the public deserves better.
Tiny slight disagreement here. Just semantics. Gaslighting is when somebody deliberately is making you believe non reality. These cops absolutely BELIEVED what they said 100%. They are so certain that all their actions are righteous and justified, any perceived impropriety is the citizens' fault. Here's an example of their belief in their infallibilty - I have been amazed at the dozens of TV programs I've seen where a wrongful arrest was made and there is later DNA evidence or a confession from someone else - some actual proof that the arrested man did not do it, and the cop always insists, your PROOF DOESN'T MATTER, we got the right guy in the first place. ( not to be an old gasbag, but I have two theories about this comment coming from a place of knowing nothing about the police. One is that mayb6 they are getting indoctrinated with this attitude during training - just like soldiers in wartime are slightly brainwashed to dehumanize the enemy to erase the natural human reluctance to murder. The second is that these are cold cases and so this is old school detectives being interviewed. And I like to think the current crop is more open to the evidence and less in love with their own opinion.)
I guess the other thing is this. The call was a potential break in. So with a break in, you have no idea if the guy is still there, if he has a gun, etc. I can understand the guns drawn for it, but man do they need to communicate better both ATF and local PD.
I just find it astonishing how officers can get so overwhelmed when going through this process as agent Burke seemed to have been. It really sheds light on what an average citizen can go through let alone a trained officer.
The atf agent was actually super cool at first, confidently denying the officer his request to get on the ground, offering to show him credentials etc, its only when the cop went full nutcase that the atf agent lost his composure as well, but you're right, if it wound the atf agent off the dial then a normal citizen is only going to be as much on edge at best, way worse and get shot at worst.
Just to follow up - discovery on the lawsuit showed a couple interesting things. The ATF agent here had previously been both demoted and put under a "Last Chance Agreement" for his employment thanks to criminal behavior. This event caused him to be investigated and terminated for Conduct Unbecoming of a Special Agent. He was operating here without backup and without clear identification visible despite being told that local law enforcement had been called and we're enroute. The target of his investigation (a delayed NICS rejection - that is, NICS cleared the firearm purchase, then later it got flagged as "whoops we messed up, go seize the gun") wasn't home - and he was pounding on the door ordering the wife to open up. She feared for herself and her children, called 911, and fled to the basement. The officers here putting this former special agent in his place (knocking him off his "rules for me not for thee" pedestal) leading to his investigation and termination was the best thing that could've happened here.
Could you possibly frame the ATF agent in a dimmer light haha. The cops had no plausible cause to believe the agent was committing a crime because the 911 caller had only requested them to verify that the ATFs credentials were valid. They could have simply checked there. And knowing this fact they didn’t ask the ATF for the credentials for an entire hour.
This escalated fast and it was all Ego driven. You notice how quickly the cops started to get on the same page, even when the other officers weren't there.
Yeah I said the same thing, the assholes first thing he said was, "ah yeah man you're good" when he literally wasn't even there to see what or how it happened, but he straight goes to back up the horrendous behavior, that's just grand. The cops are the most dangerous gang in the country and they get to wear a fuckin badge while they are in it. They scare the shit out of me.
The ATF agent also had a big ego, though, unsurprisingly. He did not even explain his decision to not get on the ground. Was there any risk that he could not observe the house resident anymore or such? No. He could have gotten to the ground without any detriment. ... Maybe he wanted to fish for a lawsuit to boost his income. ATF agents would likely thoroughly embrace that capitalist spirit. If the info that reached the cop through 'police Chinese whispers' was a potential impersonator on site, then he had reason to be careful, especially with the guy armed, and especially as long as he was alone there.
The whole bullshit of immediately going over the top with the telling him to get on the ground like a dog and the officer having his weapon drawn before even encounter the AFT agent set the whole thing in motion to go entirely wrong! What innocent person want to get on the ground? He wasn't acting violent so hand on the head and don't move would have been reasonable enough! But over escalation and acting like a master over the citizenry just causes way to many problems!!
5 seconds from "Let me see your hands" to gun drawn and "Get on the ground". His hands were visible the whole time. The officer showed up and started escalating the encounter immediately. When the ATF agent complied by raising his hands the officer escalated his commands and tone. The officer gave him a fraction of a second to produce ID before drawing his gun. If this officer could get a grade lower than F he'd deserve it.
Hey, you need at least 7 days to check an ID, it is very very difficult. You can tell that to the US citizen Carlos Rios, that although he had his passport with him and said that several times, the ICE NEVER checked it and was put into a dentention center for 7 days. They settled for 125.000$ a month ago.
The only way I can see reasoning for the short timespan is the officer noticing the firearm on the atf agent. An officer seeing a firearm tends to require fast action- not saying what the officer did was correct tho- just what could be a reason.
If he was a fed he shouldn’t have refused his commands. I don’t blame the cop AT ALL for drawing on this clown. He was clearly armed and not behaving like a federal agent.
@@Balin93 I don't know about Ohio, but there are states that allow open carry. Secondly, there was NO immediate threat posed by the ATF agent. Additionally NO citizen should be treated this way. Within seconds of arriving the moron cop pulled his gun, most police departments have procedures on use of force, and " deadly " force ( i.e their gun ), being the last resort. That moron cop is the reason why this escalated.
i lived this once, cop accused me of refusing to show ID, his own cruiser video+audio showed he wouldnt allow me to, thankfully the supervisor listened to me, called a cop who knew me who was on duty over, who confirmed i walked that round regularly with computer shit, because me and my friends would take out computers to eachothers place using a wagon and backpack and game, then take stuff home, the cop was 100% sure i was a burgler... "why would he be out this late with a whole computer???" the cop who knew me was like "because, hes a kid, and kids stay up late, and sleep late, oh and, because hes got friends who share his interests, were you never a teen?" he went on and on. it was great... mostly because that cop was just fed up with the lack of critical thinking he saw in younger cops...its also why he retired a few years ago and told me, he was fedup with the kinda cops they had been hiring including the one he knew, ruined my life, over lies, he only learned this years later when she went drinking with them and bragged about destroying my life over what she knew were lies.. :(
Exactly! That cop was a douche. At one point you can tell he realized he screwed up and keeps trying to tell his side to every other cop that walks by.
@@asiimovawper9884 this didnt, being falsely accused of rape, and cops knowing it was a lie, but threatening the girl with prison if she recanted. false rape claims ruin lives... even more so when the cop involved hates males and wont even back down when shes dead wrong.
Not even 5 seconds into the investigation and he immediately has his gun pointed and is in a flurry. He should never be allowed near a weapon of any capacity.
You can hear how frantic the cop is trying to justify why he was a douche. You can tell he doesn't handle stress very well. Maybe not the best career choice.
Agent Burke is about to become wealthy . In February (of 2024) the 6 th circuit court decided to waive immunity for both officers. ALL of agent Burke’s legal claims were upheld by the court. Furthermore they decided the matter does warrant a jury trial without the officers typical benefit of qualified immunity. This is a big deal and may clarify for courts when, and when not, qualified immunity is available to law enforcement. You can easily see how this could make cops just a wee bit more careful with the public. The defense in this case was completely destroyed by the court. I’m sure the city of Columbus will make an out of court settlement offer. One that Agent Burke and his legal team will find hard to turn down. The court found, aiming a loaded gun at an unarmed federal Agent, then tasing him AFTER He identifies himself was not “ reasonable “. Who knew.
The ATF is evil. Most people working for these agencies routinely abuse the public. Situation is disgusting because he'll get a payday then continue to work abusing people with protection of the federal government.
Cop: walks up "show me your ID" then directly to pulling his gun and screaming "GET ON DA GROUND!!!!". and cops wonder why normal people fear interactions with armed bullies.
Idk if the 1st cop keeps saying “if he is a real police officer then he should be ashamed” to either mentally justify himself or justify it to the body cam because I feel like it just made him look more guilty for going crazy at the initial contact of the scene.
05:40 Can the police officer be prosecuted for lying to a Federal Agent? The Fed did verbally attempt to show his ID then the cop seems to have lied saying he did not.
@@ktktktktktktkt search up qualified immunity. They can lie legally whenever they want in these situations. If an officer is being honest it’s because they chose to, they do not have to tell you anything of truth
I can only imagine the persons who made the call to police laughing hysterically at the situation going on outside. What an embarrassment to our federal and local law enforcement!
@@miguelbahena94 Yeah, being disappointed in a federal agent continuing to live is totally bool licker territory. You don't sound like a dumbass at all.
“why didn’t you show me your ID” you literally just yelled at him to show his hand and get on the ground. if he reached for his pockets, you probably would’ve shot him.
He literally goes to get his id and the cop terrified tells him to keep his hands away from his waist. Where else is a federal officer going to keep his id?
In the matter of 10 seconds "Turn around, let me see your hands. Let me see your hands, I NEED TO SEE SOME ID GET ON THE GROUND NOW!!!" Dude was an emotional wreck as soon as he showed up.
It takes at least 1 year (usually 2-3) to learn how to bake and cook, how to be a hairdresser and so on. And it takes 6 months to become a cop in USA. If you don't know how to do your job, that's exactly how you would do it - poorly. The question should be "why are cops trained only for 6 months? why is almost everybody eligible for this career when it is a position of authority that requires relatively high knowledge of law and physical ability? why so many rotten people get into that position and aren't eradicated until they make the news?"
I think unfortunately because of the constant spotlight we just get to see the bad eggs more often. There's bad workers in every industry. The consequences of bad eggs in police departments are just more apparent and easier.
things you see in the news, on television and youtube are anecdote. The reality is the VAST MAJORITY of police encounters end peacefully and without issue. What you watch on television is the cream of the crop of things going wrong. Don't let this experience-bias let you think this is normal. The reason you only see effed up situations is because the normal 99% of situations aren't interesting or televised. These things happen in other countries, but those other countries are also more authoritarian and have state-run media, even Europe. They don't show stuff like this in their news because it makes them look bad.
because most cops were bullied when they were kids, so they became cops to get a little power trip on others. but when situation escalades, they get memorys of flash backs of them getting wedgies every time a hand goes near the waist area. Preach baby preach. they think cause they own a gun they became a man. no man needs a gun to get respect and authority. only pussys draw guns when not needed to get that instant gratification of power trip. bahahaaha.
@@shanedpain7734 Yeah these were my thoughts too guys. If the ATF agent had gotten any closer to his hip with his hand, the officer would have most likely shot a burst of rounds at the ATF agent.
This is pretty standard. They want to be able to say they asked for ID but they are not really interested in ID so they yell it and move right away to the next stage which is "get on the ground." This is what people jokingly refer to as "Lethal Simon Says" where you have to figure out which actions are going to get you killed when an officer issues contradictory commands. Reach for your ID and you are probably dead. The correct step is get on the ground even if ID was asked for first. But in the amped up sympathetic nervous reaction that happens under stress it is very easy for some one to follow the first command they hear and end up dead especially if several officers are issuing commands at once. Asking for ID then ordering another action is a classic. "Open the door, Police" then firing through the door as it opens is another classic while yelling get on the ground... they keep opening because they are not done with the first command and get hit with resisting and are maybe shot. "Don't move" and "Get on the ground" are probably the most common ones and the hardest to figure out and either one can get you killed.
He repeated like 6 times: "....well, and he MAY even be a cop...." and each time he said it, you can hear him shit his pants just a little more in the fear that if he is a cop, he crossed the line and could possibly be sued........which he did.
IIn some cases dash and body cams give an accurate image, in many cases they do not. if you read the court filings for the lawsuit, the woman whose husbands gun was subject to federal seizure, read off the BATFE guy's ID number and asked if it was real. The patrol officer was NOT given that fact at all from the dispatcher.(see dispatcher transcripts from the filings) Cop was just told that the resident worried she was getting a break-in. Cop arrive the ATF guy has no windbreaker with "AFE" etc on. he doesn't have his ID or badge on a lanyard around his neck or sheild or ID on belt. in fact looks disheveled. Cop does what he is trained to do. The fact is undercover guys, and plain clothes cops DO get drawn on by uniformed cops and in large departments where people don't know each other, the undercover guy is in law enforcement practice supposed to comply. Plain cloths guys DO comply and DO not resist being cuffed.
@@teo2975 WTF? Cop is trained to shout down a person that is not hostile at all and is showing his hands. When asked for ID he was trying to get his ID and the cop told him to not get it. Don't ask for ID if you don't want the person to give it to them.
thats how things work when you cant be something you despreately wanted to be but never had the balls to really do... like airsoft, fun little game, until some sweaty nerd goes all tryhard seal team 6 and ruins it for everybody.. same goes for these guys i think...
As a resident of Ohio, I can say the Columbus PD officer's is standard practice for many other cops. Draw your weapon and escalate the situation as much as possible. Twice, I have had cops pull their guns for literally no reason. Both times, the cops were not in control of their emotions and the encounter were very much like these. Law enforcement practices in this state are extremely broken and there is little being done to fix it.
They were well within standard procedures to draw down on him. The call they got was a police impersonator trying to break into a home. They have to treat it as if they are walking up to a home invasion with an armed impersonator.
Yea ive been in columbus and dealt with cops a LOT and columbus is one of the few places cops only respond to serious situations. You have to puah them hard to get that kind of reaction
The lawsuit is ongoing at this time. Burke's lawyers sued on 5 counts: Count 1: Excessive Force (42 U.S.C. § 1983) Count 2: Monell Claim (42 U.S.C. § 1983) - This count was rejected on a motion for summary judgment and DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE. This means that the claim against the City of Columbus has been dismissed permanently, and Burke cannot sue the City again on this basis. Count 3: Malicious/Willful/Wanton/Reckless Misconduct Count 4: Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress Count 5: Loss of Consortium Counts 1, 3, 4, and 5 have been allowed to proceed to trial (if the case does not settle or get resolved beforehand). Count 2 was rejected and DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE, meaning the City of Columbus cannot be sued again for this claim.
That's what cops do bro, where you been. Agent is fortunate pig didn't kill him. He should have called pigs who had jurisdiction and verified who he was before he showed up at people's home armed. Traditionally it's a long process before pigs are ready to accept a federal agent is legit. Oh that's a good looking fake badge 😂
Because the guy had a gun on his hip and wouldnt do what he was told if he had gotten on the ground it would have been fine. even if you are in the right legally you have to do what cops say
@@baileybaker3488 "Sir, sir, listen to me, i need you to bend over!! BEND OVER RIGHT KNOW!" Said the cop. Bailey was just trying to buy some bread. But Bailey, did right away. Happy ending for everyone.
So basically... Cop: "Show me your ID!" Agent: *reaches for wallet* Cop: *points gun* "DON'T REACH FOR YOUR WAIST!!!!" Agent: "I tried to show you my credentials." Cop: "No you didn't..."
Yeah I've dealt with duchebag cops like these guys. I got tackled to the ground and handcuffed for the crime of the century "running a stop sign on a bicycle on residential street." It was the same thing cop stops says "you"...I answered "me" and pointed to my chest...Cop freaks out and draws his gun "STOP REACHING!!!" "GET UR HANDS UP!!! NOW!" "ON THE GROUND" I'm like "for what?" "What did I do?" he just kept yelling "ON THE GROUND" "ON THE GROUND"...Later he kept saying that he thought I was going to pull out a gun...you know from my T-shirt. I'm guessing guys like this get off on having "Authority".
I can't stand how they all try to force people to the ground. I'm not an animal. I'm not your bitch. I'm not going to my knees. I'm not sitting on the curb. I'm not laying on the ground. Look what happened to Shaver when he attempted to fall on his face due to the commands of law enforcement.
I just commented almost the same thing, they're justifying to themselves and the other officers that the way they handled the situation is the right and best way to do it.
And the story they tell their buddies it's never quite what actually happened. This one is closer to the truth than most, probably because there was a witness, but still has significant misrepresentations. I remember thinking that the body cameras would slow the lying down. Silly me.
Cops do more damage than atf agents yet you still support them. Most atf members aren't even bad the only things i see against atf agents are ridge and waco. Meanwhile, I can name hundreds of terrible things the police did.@@costakeith9048
The two officers that arrived at the scene with guns drawn should be in prison. They never once asked for his credentials, just tried to force a federal officer to the ground with no knowledge of the situation at all.
I see someone who is a federal law enforcement agent who thinks he's above the law. Anyone can say "I'm a federal agent". Egos all the way around which really doesn't serve the public interest. Having seen how law enforcement operates in other countries, you are all a bunch of clowns. Welcome to America where we put overgrown children in charge. It all comes down to the pathetic state of US education. Utterly ashamed when I see crap like this.
Wrong the ATF gets an F. When a local cop pulls up you comply with all the commands. Then when everything is sorted then you can procced. Put aside federal agents shouldnt be aloud to walk around unescorted. Local cops trump federal. Maintaining that is important to make sure we dont chafe under the fed and get rebellions.
A guy, who you think impersonates police and wants to "take the guns" off another person, you would greet calmly when he approaches you? Do you carry bodybags with you, or do you sell them? I'm not sure, you don't seem normal.
@@revisit8480 The call had nothing to do with guns it was an attempted break in call. Upon arrival the officer sees a man standing at the front door with a clipboard. This officers actions does not match the situation.
The cop is absolutely hysterical. 8 seconds in and he's freaking out screaming like an 8 year old "get on the ground" the entire time he's pumped you can hear it in his voice and breathing.
I mean I sort of understand it. If the call comes over and it says “potential break in” you have no idea I think at that point if the buddy has a gun or something. We actually just had an officer killed a couple weeks go kid was going around grabbing door handles, next thing you know cops come and buddy got in a fight with the cops and killed on of the officers. So when it comes into breaking in or something I can understand the guns drawn. What I will say is I think both the ATF agent and the local PD should have done a better job communicating that he was on the job, but I also think the PD should have detained (in handcuffs) and let go until it was resolved. Also leave it to the ATF not to communicate they were doing a service in the local area and not have a local guy dispatched with him.
@@Chronically20Something Weeeell no but yes. I meant criminal charges for not checking on an ambulance, the ATF could have an arrythmia and had a cardiac arrest shortly after he got tased.
In November 2022, the city of Columbus, Ohio, agreed to pay $440,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by ATF Agent James Burk, who alleged that he was subjected to excessive force by Columbus police officers during a 2018 arrest. The lawsuit went to trial in November 2022, but the city and Burk’s attorneys reached a settlement agreement before the jury could reach a verdict. The settlement agreement provides Burk with $440,000 in compensation for his injuries and emotional distress. It also requires the city to provide training to its police officers on the use of force and on the rights of federal agents.
@@donaldmei8797 but that's not the issue. he asked him for his ID, then refused to allow him to do so. that's just stupid. if you're not going to allow someone to provide ID why ask?
Ego, entitlement, and high adrenaline are what fueled this entire encounter. Also, this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. It seemed like a comedy show.
Exactly! Nothing else to see here. Both of their egos were being bruised. And just by all the officers tones you just imagine how they treat regular citizens smfh.
They blatantly choose the story that justifies their actions. She didn't say he was trying to break in, she said yes to the question but proceeded to describe him saying he will wait outside until thee evening if he had to. Why would someone who says they will wait if he planned on breaking into the house... Confirmation bias at its finest.
I peeped that too! He immediately exaggerated what was told to him just a few moments prior! Very bogus and seems almost leading folks so that they can have his back.
Cop: did he try to break in? Lady: yes and he still knock and wait . Clearly being selective with what words are understood which are not A knock is not a break in
What i find abhorrent is that the cop says "first thing is, he should've had his badge out the moment I got here". Dude, you got out of your car and drew your gun and immediately started issuing commands. You never gave him a chance to show you his badge.
True but at the same time why would he let the unknown person pull something out of his pocket? If the atf agen truly would have been an impersonator he shouldn't be allowed to reach for his pocket.
How quickly that police office just started lying was amazing. On 2 counts I saw the agent reach for his info and the officer said don't reach for you waist.
Any confrontation with a possible threat sets off personal emotional warnings and is to be expected. A federal officer should have seen that and complied knowing that a police officer must a investigate and a sudden movement may get him shot.
@@TheTechnologyFox Hold cops accountable, if you are going to practice law enforcement you need to have control over your emotions. That officer escalated the situation the second he got there with no reason.
@@toriwallace9622 remember that the report came is as someone who was possibly representing himself as a police officer. The ATF agent should have had his badge visible. Also, just because someone says he is a police officer that does not make them one. The persons in the apartment house did the correct thing by calling to police. The ATF agent seemed to be undercover and no matter what he says, the officers first responsibility it to protect himself and the citizens. Comply with orders and settle questions in court.
Someone should have called the DEA, claiming there is a gang of drug dealers dressed up as police officers abducting a rival druglord. Now that would have been exciting😆
I love how the cop acts like having it all on video is a good thing for him. All he had to do was give the ATF officer a chance to show his credentials. At no point did he do so. From zero to 60 in 2.5 seconds.
An armed man was trying to break into a private residence, given he didn't have a warrant whether or not he was an ATF agent was completely irrelevant to the scenario.
They're well-trained in it. On average, they get 15 times more training on the shooting range, for example, than they do learning how to de-celerate situations, identify mental illness, recognize domestic abuse, etc.
@@eleanoraquitaine2966 training goes a long way, and if we keep destroying budgets and demonizing the position all that range time will be their tool. It’s sad to see the hostility get to a boiling point where it just isn’t logical or rational. If more people focused on local laws, community events, relations with local officers, proper funding for good training things would be better. Support your local law enforcements for be an active community member, build relationships with your community and enable those you give the role of law enforcement to do a stand up job for the community and allow them to be praised for good work. We need to praise good work more, we can bash bad work all day but what about those who put in their due diligence for those around them, they should earn respect and have a chance to revive earned respect. A healthy society is grateful for those who serve it justly, and gives back to those who do good work. I do not think we have a very healthy society at large.
@@ApolloTheDerg A good effective workforce that does its job as defined (in this case, protect and serve the people who pay them) starts with good hiring practices. More than 40% of LE admitted to DV against their partners in a recent survey. That only counts the ones who told the truth. First, hire better then train better. It's really not very complicated. Quit hiring bullies and giving them weapons.
“WhY dIdN’t YoU sHoW mE yOuR bAdGe?!” You know the second he reached for his badge that officer would have unloaded his entire magazine into that ATF agent because “I tHoUgHt He WaS rEaChInG fOr A wEaPoN”
funny thing if it did happen and the atf agent died that cop would have been locked away in a federal pen for life as there is no jury that would believe a federal officer was reaching for anything but his badge
@@wadeault9227 nobody Said it was however the atf has one the worst histories of all federal agency and caused way to much damage that could have been avoided
I was once pulled over and asked for ID, registration, and proof of insurance. I gave them ID and asked if I could go into the glove box to grab the insurance and registration. They said " no not at this time". I was subsequently arrested and charged with failure to provide insurance upon request. The pigs do this intentionally knowing the district attorneys will plea out their charges anyway.
Right. The cop is so fn’ stupid that he didn’t allow the atf to show creds, yet argues why didn’t you show your creds. He should be fired. He is so panicked and scared he can’t process words that he’s saying which deny the atf the opportunity to identify himself.
He articulated it in the very beginning. The second time he said he was getting it was when he was shouted at to keep his hanfs out of his pockets by the troglodyte.
The cops that drew his gun and pointed it stopped trying to listen to what the ATF agent was saying. He just kept cutting him off and yelling. If this is how their cops are trained to behave then that should be unacceptable.
Quite similar to a person being pulled over for suspicion of driving a stolen vehicle and even though the person insist it’s they’re the owner and have paperwork that person is still detained and possibly cuffed instead of getting the relevant documents and proceeding accordingly.
Cop - SHOWMEYOUR ID!!!111GETONTHEGROUND!!!! Cop - Why cant you show me your ID?GET ON THE GROUND!!11 jeez dude, can you give him like a second to respond? is GETONTHEGROUND your autocorrect for Please?
Upon pulling up to the scene the cop IMMEDIATELY said "let me see your hands" and not even half a second after saying "I need to see some ID," his gun is drawn and pointing at him.. Never once asked the ATF officer whats going on nor did he ever probably intend to. In his mind the ATF officer was already a "bad guy," and he was scared before he even got there.
I have encountered many police that are in full hysteria mode as they emerge from their vehicles. It seems to me this could be alleviated some what by having two officers in every car. Being alone is in their line of work I would imagine a bit unnerving. The problem is that level of fear is contagious. The verging on panic screeching voice puts every one on edge. Adrenaline starts to flow and next thing you know every body is ready to run or fight.
@@owensthilaire8189 The federal agent was also very alone, but at least he was composed up to the arrest. I'm not a cop, but I'm not gonna pretend all officers act the same way approaching a non threatening individual. Some don't act like this, and the fact that the arresting officers had already made up their mind says a lot about them
I had soldiers who were right out of high school when we deployed to Iraq would put these 2 jokers to SHAME.LOL.😊😊REAL TALK.Dealt with REAL pressure like a CHAMP!!! Even in a combat zone every situation doesn't require use of force,sometimes common sense is the rule.That's why I brag on my former soldiers sooo much.SEMPER-FI.
I never get why an officer would say put your hands in the air then seconds later tell you he needs to see your ID. How are you going to get is safely is my question? I would rather be tackled by the officer taken to the ground before ever moving my hands in front of a officer with his adrenaline running a thousand miles per hour.
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That ego is at level 1000. The only worse thing he could have done was kill him. They took all the other steps
How tf did you post this 12 hours ago when this wasn't uploaded till 30 min ago?
I recommended this to you on Twitter weeks ago I can't wait to watch- this is the 3rd one I've seen you do from my city
Edit 1- this is the third F CPD had received
Edit 2- there is a much longer video it's pretty crazy during the take down and when the 2nd officer arrives on scene
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Imagine an ATF agent shows up to confiscate your weapon, you call the cops and they taze and arrest the agent. "Hell yeah, this worked out great."
Fuckin A right
hahahahha keep it in your back pocket if needed
Dinner and a show.
holy shit the guy just watching from his window like HOLY fuck
Lmao i laughed way to hard at this comment
In the cops' defense, the man was clearly holding a piece of paper. He could have given them all papercuts
Can you imagine if it was a camera?
OMG! I didn’t think of that. Those cops made it out of there with their lives.
Exactly, paper is more dangerous than a forged weapon.
U crumple it up and throw it and it hits the target, it REALLY can be kind of uncomfortable. Lethal response is DEFINITELY advised.
😩
The guy who called the cops on the ATF agent pulled a 200 IQ move.
Play of the game
Right everyone trashing these cops and they suck for their demeanor in general. BUT as a gun owner I did get a big laugh out of this. Fuck the ATF
A real life Uno reverse card.
actual he did what everyone would do. it is just that he happened to bump into a bunch of idiots. I would say the cop had a history with atf and did this on purpose.
Agree, dude knew the feds usually are more well trained and have their shit together. He was like, I’ll call these bumbling ass county cops who hire any dumb 18+ year old, send em thru a quick academy and turn em lose with a gun…they are bound to bungle this up with an ego trip while I slip out the back door with the shotgun!
You can hear the ego/power tripping in that cops voice while he was ordering the atf agent down on the ground. After the situation calmed down, you could also tell by how he was frantically trying to get his peers to assure him he did right, that as the adrenaline wore off and his brain started functioning again he was like “oh fuck he really is a federal agent, I just pulled a gun on a federal ATF agent, I might be screwed”
Love these videos
That officer is straight PANICKING the whole time. Stuttering his words like a kid in a principal’s office. Dude had no business being a potentially lethal hand of the state.
8:10 the other cops notice him freakin out
They're arresting an atf agent attempting to sieze property.
They're serving the people in this arrest.
@@a1bin0tadp0l3if someone is not supposed to be in possession of a firearm… then he is doing his job and serving the community. Obviously they aren’t supposed to have a firearm for a reason
@@trinitrinrecords5427 the atf isn't the best judge on that. They make up a bunch of rules each year that go beyond their authority.
@@a1bin0tadp0l3 They both deserve to be arrested, the guy who shouldn't own a gun and the agent who was stupid enough to refuse orders from another cop despite the fact that he was plainclothes and they had no way of knowing he was an officer.
it's just a mess...
Cop: " get on the ground!"
ATF: "I'm a federal agent"
Cop: "Show me ID!"
ATF: *reaches for ID
Cop: " Get your hand away from your pocket!"
🙃
Then the rate the ATF Agent A. C -
Right. So ridiculous.
Daniel Shaver :(
I love the cops the ATF is unamerican
@@hypezmalhab5315 the cop I'd give an F, infact I'd suspend him and make him retrain. The ATF agent I'd give a C for not complying. Nobody was the better man here.
Those “de-escalation” training classes seem to work very well.
Within seconds, cop has gun pointed at man and demanding him to the ground. That’s the type of cop who mistakes his taser for his gun and kills someone.
3 weeks of police training. 2 of which is spent in a firing range.
100%
You can tell how juiced up the first-arriving officer was by how much the adrenaline kept flowing after the federal agent was handcuffed and enclosed in the squad car. His fellow officer tells him, "Don't even argue with him (the agent)."
@What saith the scripture? Oh lordy.
That cop is an absolute moron. Without his badge he would be working at the local fast food shop.
"If he is an actual police officer, he should be embarrassed"
The irony is incalculable
Order of operations:
1. Make contact with subject
2. Draw firearm immediately
3. Deploy taser into subject
4. Force subject into back of car.
5. Now figure out who the subject is.
I think maybe 5 should be up there above 2
The thing us though, he's not a cop. He's an agent. A minimal but important difference.
@@synthwolfe8906 An "Agent" is just an enhanced FEDERAL COP, the difference is semantics.
Actually, if everyone wants to be technical, he’s an “ATF Special Agent” as Federal Special Agents have federal LEO powers as defined by the roles assigned to their organization. So, yes, he technically is police. Additionally, many federal LEOs have “POLICE” written in BOLD letters on the backs of their jackets, so nobody will be confused when they shout “get on the ****ing ground now!”
@@jayrose6312
Except FBI have "FBI" in bold
so cop haters don't confuse them
with POLICE..😂.
Remember kids, always call the cops on feds.
Calling the cops on the feds, then you know the system will fuck itself over on itself. Well played lady.
Genius.!!!
There's another video of this same officer getting arrested on my channel.. 🤬
@@JamesRabbitHolelet the dogs fight lol
Heck, just calling two neighboring departments will cause a shitshow. Lol
ATF later arrested all police officers
"First thing he should have got his badges out when I got here" LMAO You were holding him at gunpoint telling him NOT TO REACH FOR HIS PANTS. This cop is WAY overreacting in my opinion.
There's no "opinion" about it. He was objectively acting irrationally
I’m sure the cop would’ve thought the badge was a gun and shot him clean in the head
And the agent had his ID clearly displayed, around his neck!
Exactly, these cops are used to being the top dog in the city and they just proved it
This pigs
are idiots. He should not be working in law enforcement. They could have handled this differently. The outcome didn't have to end this way.
"im a federal agent"
"let me see your hands"
"i need to see some Id"
"get on the ground"
All in 4 seconds.
Reminds me of the guy who was murdered by cops in Arizona a few years ago. They were shouting conflicting commands at him and he was flustered and didn't know what to do.
@@2m7b5 Daniel Shaver is the man that the police murdered that day
"WhY WoUldN'T u ShOw YoUr Id?"
Possibly legal, but impossible to follow, orders! That cop should be fired!!!
@@tropicalco2339 never forget
Dude pointed the gun straight away no talking, no non lethal, straight up pulled out the gun.
"Why didn't you show me your ID?"
"You didn't ask. Do you want to see it?"
"DO NOT REACH FOR YOUR ID!!"
Can we get a different cop here? This one is broken.
That's why you get on the ground if they even guess he has a gun while drawing whatever he would had they would shoot him instantly in a way it would be like shooting himself if he grabbed his ID.
By searching him they have 0 risk that he would shoot them, Besides if he's ATF he more then likely has a gun.
If you so as much see said gun I feel anyone would consider that a threat.
All of this could of been avoided if he was just calm and he sounded really violent and aruged every single second literally even when they were away from him.
That is not the time to be reaching. He should have had it out and/or visible. DUH
*There I fixed it*
"Why didn't you show me your ID *when I got here*?"
"You didn't ask. ***********?"
*...Almost a minute later.... moves hand toward waist AND THEN says... I got my ID* 4:46
"DO NOT REACH FOR YOUR ID!!"
*This cop is EXTREMELY cautious and has great training to resist immediately firing upon his reach*
But the officer did ask multiple times to see ID, all they know is they have a call about someone impersonating or at least that's what he said, but drawing his gun wasn't necessary
@@litodito6424 this guy is broken too
"if he's a real police office he ought to be ashamed."
Yeah, well, now you know how we feel.
It's a drinking game for how many times he said, "he may be a real police officer..."
Exactly!!!!
@@jamesf791
He's clearly concerned about him potentially (ie: high probability)
being Federal LE and the clustefck way he handled it all as
attending officer.
@@r0ky_M - But he also repeatedly tried to blame his behavior on the ATF agent. I think that the agent should've identified himself in a more professional manner, but the responding officer's conduct was exponentially worse (including not allowing the agent to produce ID and then lying about it).
@@loki2240
He's the kind of officer that would shoot someone for attempting to show ID after demanding they show it.
“Why didn’t you show me your ID!?” And the moment the fed agent reaches for his ID he’ll get shot. Got to love the local cop’s logic.
That's not how that work.
@@WarNoob755 tell that to Philando Castile
@@mgkachar ok
Good
And that's a bad thing?
With all due respect, the level of paranoia that is displayed in the US IS incredible. Police officers immediately pull out their guns and seem unable to de-escalate any situation.
Is people who cannot seem to follow basic instructions... sure, sometimes cops are idiots but that's all over the world XD
@@unknownname8591Unlawful orders are NOT to be followed.
@@chuckinshanks you don't understand, unlawful orders don't simply go unheard. This is what you do, you voice that what the officer is doing is not lawful, you can describe why, you do as he says, then you later sue and win...
That’s what happens when the entire population is armed.
You mean like basic instructions let me see you hands, where is your ID, get on the ground. All in three seconds
"Show me your ID! KEEP YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS! SHOW ME YOUR ID!" This officer doesn't know if he is coming or going.
It's a trap never fall for this have your hands raised otherwise they can say you reached and they didn't have a choice
@P Reese
My mom told me something:
Treat any interaction with a cop like you would if you ran into a dangerous wild animal that could attack without provocation.
If approached by a cop-
Move slowly, keep your voice and attitude calm and quiet, even if the cop is screaming and angry. If they tell you to put your hands up, do it and dont drop them for any reason.
Even if you are doing nothing wrong and they are being an a**hole or aggressive, dont argue.
Its more important you come home alive than prove the cop wrong.
I live my life by those rules.
It couldn't have been said more perfectly maybe these officers need to get retrained cuz he doesn't know what the heck he's doing or even though the law and that matter
@P Reese yeah fuck that. Those cips deserved some of the harsher mid 2000s vocabulary. If you love through that gaming period. You will know what I'm referring too. Lmao smh. Sucks. But it's true.
@@Hotep982 Yep. Any cop who tries this crap should be charged with attempted murder.
Here's my issue. You can see the local cop reach and pull his gun as he gets out of his cruiser, and once he asked for ID, when the federal agent went to get it, he told him to to reach for it. That local cop clearly didn't care that he was in the wrong.
imagine had he reach for his ID he would had gotten shot
“Lemme see your ID”
“Okay”
“Cowabunga it is”
Went from asking for identification to yelling at him to get on the ground in the same sentence. These cops are ridiculous.
And honestly I would feel bad except that guy works for the ATF so honestly they could have shot him and I wouldn’t have cared less. At 10:49 the family talks about how he was threatening them, these pieces of shit do this for a living.
Police impersonators are likely armed felons.
They mindlessly recite a script, just like when they scream “stop resisting” when there’s no resistance.
But that’s what you get when there’s a maximum IQ of 80 allowed for cops.
Actual robot behaviour, like his ai bugged out and he immediately skipped to escalating the situation to it’s maximum level
Totally agree with you. ATF: I am a federal agent! Police: show me your ID. When the ATF agent tried to reach for his ID, then the police yelled "DO NOT REACH FOR YOUR POCKET!" Throughout this whole time, the poor ATF agent kept saying: let me show you my credential. WTF!!
That cop is so nervous hes a danger to himself and everyone else.
The atf is a bigger danger to the consitution and well being
@@KageumiUmikage Try to cope, they are talking about the event that took place.
@@tashalorm4313 and? Are you new to conversations?
The snake eats its tail.
Now that's a painful ending task. 🍿
I was looking for the words and then saw your post. Well said.
trolling for likes and subs.
puts some hand sanitizer on that bih
Truth, Facts and Common Sense........ the owner of the illegally owned firearm posed a greater risk to the ATF Agent and the Police, but isn't it typical of the egos! Wepons drawn and "Get on the Ground!" and "I'm not getting on the Ground!" Stun gun to the rescue whilst there's a person who has an illegally owned firearm behind a shut door, less than 30' away! This is Glorious! Watching them fight amongst themselves! Perhaps they'll see how "we the people" have been abused at their hands for years! But I doubt it! Just doing my job doesn't cut it when your first reaction is......... Guns drawn, escalate to vicious, violent assult, Judge Jury and Executioner! We are having to teach ourselves and our children, our Legal and Constitutionally protected rights! To protect ourselves and our children from the Law Enforcement Agencies who are employed to uphold the Law and our Constitutional Rights! Ironical!
“If he is a real police officer he should be ashamed”
The irony in that one sentence is hilarious.
LMAO, perfectly said
The ATF agent caused all the problems by not surrendering when told to.. WTF are you people smoking?? Those local cops were just doing their job!
@@MrEAW56 Those genius Cops were notified of Agent Burke's name and his Federal Badge number when they were dispatched to the scene. They showed up acting hostile and they didn't allow the Federal Agent to show them his credentials.
You couldn't be smoking ANYTHING, because YOU NEED TO WAKE UP, FIRST !
The Police Officer was referring to a Federal Agent as a Police Officer.
They aren't exactly the same thing, though.
Federal Agents call themselves Federal Agents. They don't refer to themselves as Police Officers, though. If you call one a Police Officer, they will correct you and say, "That's a different profession". or "I'm not an Officer, I'm an Agent".
They DO NOT want to be associated with any of the clowns who are regularly allowed to become Police Officers and intentionally violate their own policies and regulations and they disobey the US Constitution, and falsely detain citizens in order to violate their rights. Cops are constantly in court for abusing their power against the people they are swarn to protect. They sometimes claim to accidentally fire their weapon, and accidentally kill innocent people.
Federal Agents are much more professional. They are trained better. They don't (typically) act that way, but Police Officers (typically) do !
A Federal Agent WOULD be ashamed to call himself a Police Officer !
(For obvious reasons)
Guy pulls his weapon out 11 seconds after his car door closes, how can anyone justify that as good police work when the other person is in a non threatening position?
officer is looking to add another notch, fuck doing the right thing
His papers could be dangerous could cut someone
@What saith the scripture? That's true of all law enforcement.
That’s the problem with policing today. They rush judgement all the time with tiny brains like that I mean that’s all they do
That 15 year old boy in Chicago was shot 15times in back within 3seconds of arriving how can anyone assess any situation that fast. They just react
The initial officer is terrible. He kept interrupting after he asked a question. Why he feels the need to repeatedly say , “if he’s a real police officer, he should be ashamed” shows a guilty conscience.
The freak actually said “he should have had his badge out when I got here.”
Dude, you had a gun on him when you got there. You told him to keep his hands up. At what point was the guy supposed to get his badge out of his pocket without becoming target practice for you?
"You should have showed me your creds!!!"
"I asked if you wanted me to grab them for you and you told me no!!!"
Logic is not a pre-requisite to be a cop.
That's the point, then that loser could "legally" shoot because he might have grabbed a "concealed gun/weapon".
hence why a drawn weapon aimed at a person as form of an uncalled for escalation should be charged for reckless endangerment. If you know to not point your gun at something you want dead then them escalation like that should be considered such.
Fed should've done what he was told to do. Cop should've escalated force.
@@sana-cm7oc Fed shouldn't have put up a fuss, but cops shouldn't have immediately escalated to drawn guns. Everyone's in the wrong here and it just shows how broken our system really is that someone is inevitably going to be declared "right" in the end.
All that mattered was that he "get on the ground", that he bow before their almighty authoritah. Even when he finally did kneel, after repeatedly offering to show credentials, they tased him to punish him. End qualified immunity. Compliance tasing needs to be criminalized. Self defense only.
I agree, we should end qualified immunity, however, a conservative Supreme Court will never do it.
@@utubepunk But the conservative Justices say over and over again that The Supreme Court should not legislate by creating law. What liars. I guess it only applies when the Liberal Justices think up something new. Qualified Immunity was plucked out of the air, had no precedent.
Without compliance tasing, many female officers would have no method of downing non-compliant perps. You'd have even more comical scenes where a guy is walking away from a crime scene with multiple female cops clinging to his ankles, failing to stop him.
@@casbyness An incel has entered the chat.
@@utubepunk Being honest doesn't make him an incel
The ATF agent was put in a “no win” situation by the local. The local wanted his creds but wouldn’t let him show them and also didn’t even get them himself.
Another local cop scared of his shadow.
Then the local gaslights him with “why did you make us do this”.
Typical cop instructions, hands in the air , get on the ground, show me your ID. No one can comply with all 3.
@@tdog652041 They throw out several commands in a matter of seconds so the victim can't comply and they get to escalate the encounter to a higher level.
The local cop is a TWIT!!!
Imagine if there wasn't video.
@@tdog652041 Yes. You can. Get on the ground. Have your hands outstretched. And in his line of sight. And he'll get your id.
The officer whose bodycam footage was provided in the video needs psychiatric evaluation, he sounds anxious, paranoid, enraged, and on the verge of tears throughout the entirety of this video. Completely blasphemous.
Blasphemous???
Agent: “my badge is here in my pocket”
Cop: “don’t reach for your waist!!”
Later..
Cop: “you never tried showing me your badge”
He refused to get on the ground though.
@@publiozinj4882 he didn’t need too. All he had to do was keep his hands in the air which he did. Cop was not in the right to demand for him to get on the ground
Cop did good. That's how I got shot 3 times..... Don't reach for nothing. Let me get it for you
@@marcocruz7835 I know a guy who got shot in the neck, getting his wallet/DL..as requested by these dumbfucks. Now a quadriplegic, he got 8 million, lawyer probably took 3.
@@ClanBez federal agent, the cops should have got on the ground by rights. They are lucky it was just the one agent rather than an atf squad, fucking with those guys gets ya shot and it would have been justified.
"PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR DONT REACH INTO YOUR WAIST"
"You never once tried identifying yourself" well no shit, he can either keep his hands up or he can show you his ID lol
These idiot cops were egotistical and trigger happy given how they tasered the ATF Agent when he was being handcuffed. If they shot him if he tried to get his credentials its clear as day the ATF would be pursuing murder charges.
You should take a class in conceal carry.
@@WarNoob755 you missed the whole point 🤣
@@HacksLMAO I did not. LMAO.
Wasn’t it “show me your id, get on the ground!” Like which one do you want officer porkrinds? You can only do one not both.
Lol at the cop who says he should've had his badge out already when before he could even finish his first sentence pulled his gun then was voice cracking the whole time. Man's is a joke
If he grabbed for his badge when the cop showed up he'd be dead.
ATF pig deserves it. Trying to violate this mans second amendment right
If you fuck up, you don’t get to own a gun. No 2nd amendment rights were violated.
@@DS-lk1cg see that's where people have been fucked over....if you fuck up and Paul your debr to society your rights should be given back...the fact that they can he taken away means they were never rights at all...
Right. It’s not like he was able to go in his pockets while keeping his hands up.
That cop is the biggest wimp I've ever seen! He was at 100' from the jump! His voice was still cracking 30 minutes afterward. He doesn't have the intestinal fortitude for the job. He's a danger to himself, his fellow officers and the public
Give a coward a gun and when he’s out of his depth through a total lack of communication ,common sense , policing skills and bottle then he’s going to hide behind his weapon . These fools need taking off the force .
They need training properly. It's absolutely ridiculous that their opening plan is to scream at someone with their guns drawn. They had his name and badge number beforehand, too. It's no wonder whatsoever that so many people get unecessarily shot by police in the US.
you can hear the fear in the cops voice .Fear will make you do stupid things.
Okay self defense expert
“I GAVE YOU A CHANCE” first thing he did was hold a gun to his face and tell him to get on the ground when was the chance
dont you love how they start rewriting history seconds after it happens?
For Police making false claims is one of their favourite pass time.
@@ericbland2 Yeah, despite the fact that the entire situation is captured on bodycam.
There are bad cops for sure, but since body cams have become a thing 999 times out of 1000 it shows the perpetrator that is making false claims about police misconduct.
I feel like the ATF dude should have just complied with getting on the ground and then sorted it out. The arresting officers maybe could have acted more calmly, however he doesn't know the guy is truly a fed yet and is instead there on a call and believes he is dealing with a criminal. The ATF guy complying and allowing the cop to determine his status would have fixed this from the get-go.
@@mrdumbfellow927 But that doesn't excuse the fact that the officer needs to be better trained and assessed or just get a different job.
Dude, the arriving officer IMMEDIATELY drew his firearm on the agent then while pointing the firearm at the agent didn’t let the agent provide his credentials or identification. Just wow. That’s fucking nuts. 😂
They had a man with a gun call. Possibly impersonating officer call.
@@MrErichonda30 That’s understandable. All the officer had to do was listen to what the agent had to say. Having his gun drawn on the agent was more than enough to ensure the officers safety.
@@MrErichonda30 they knew his name and badge number before they got there
@@MrErichonda30 except that they had his name and badge number, all they had to do was call the local ATF office to confirm.
To be fair he is a member of a group that has burned at least 40 children alive
The Dispatcher needs to be held accountable too. They only said "an armed man is trying to break into someone's home"
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it 100 times more… a scared cop is a very dangerous cop. This cop was obviously terrified. Not only terrified but also cocky. He sounded like a 13 year old boy yelling at that fed..voice cracking and so pitchy. He shouldn’t be a cop. He’s going to ruin his life one day (among others) being as trigger happy as he seems to be. Hopefully the fed wins the case and it’s enough to get this cop off the streets before somebody gets killed. He’s beyond the help of any training or anger management courses or anything like that.
@What saith the scripture? did you not watch the video? Your only mad about the gun thing im guessing, even though they also regulate tobacco, alcohol, and explosives. But the atf only takes guns from people who shouldnt have them, so unless your a person that shouldnt have a gun, why are you so worried about losing your gun?
Right, I've always told my children that the scariest person is someone in a desperate/scary situation where they feel backed in a corner or feel they have no other options. This cops fear put him in a bad place. Too bad it wasn't april 19th,
I mean, the Columbus cop did follow his procedures and department policy correctly. When they receive a call of a potential burglar that is armed with a gun, the cops are well within their right to approach the scene with guns drawn like he did to secure the suspect, and then afterwards figure out the facts of who's who and what's what. Most people just don't agree with the policy. Everyone saying the cop is wrong for what he did, but what they really don't understand is it's the department policy they disagree with. This is very similar to what happened with the Clayton County officer incident, the community was outraged that the cop approached the teens with gun drawn until the police chief addressed the public saying the cop was well within his rights to approach them with his gun drawn because the original call said the teens had a gun. If so many people disagree with this policy they should take up politics and try to legislate a different policy into place, but I will say legislation like that is usually unlikely to pass as it puts the officers more at risk.
@@getbuck7473 I don't disagree with the policy, I just think it's satisfying to see a bully in uniform get treated like law abiding citizens have been treated for years. Make of my comment what you will, but the American people have had enough. Voting people out of office rarely does any good. These thugs are so entrenched in power at this point. That's just how most of us feel, right or wrong.
@@bayoulafourche well if you don't feel like your vote is making a difference you should consider taking up politics and try to legislate a change that will make you feel better. By the way when you mention that "Voting people out of office rarely does any good. These thugs are so entrenched in power at this point.", you're kind of insinuating that you don't agree with the policy(the way the Columbus officer handled this situation) and that different politicians aren't changing the procedures officers should take to handle calls like this the way you feel they should.
I think this officer in particular really shows how cops can be the masters of gaslighting. Asking “why would you make us do this,” when escalating the situation was 100% their fault. Imagine how you would feel hearing this if you were just an ordinary citizen instead of a trained federal agent. Just goes to show how easily power can be abused by police today and that the public deserves better.
Tiny slight disagreement here. Just semantics. Gaslighting is when somebody deliberately is making you believe non reality. These cops absolutely BELIEVED what they said 100%. They are so certain that all their actions are righteous and justified, any perceived impropriety is the citizens' fault.
Here's an example of their belief in their infallibilty - I have been amazed at the dozens of TV programs I've seen where a wrongful arrest was made and there is later DNA evidence or a confession from someone else - some actual proof that the arrested man did not do it, and the cop always insists, your PROOF DOESN'T MATTER, we got the right guy in the first place. ( not to be an old gasbag, but I have two theories about this comment coming from a place of knowing nothing about the police. One is that mayb6 they are getting indoctrinated with this attitude during training - just like soldiers in wartime are slightly brainwashed to dehumanize the enemy to erase the natural human reluctance to murder. The second is that these are cold cases and so this is old school detectives being interviewed. And I like to think the current crop is more open to the evidence and less in love with their own opinion.)
Nailed it!!!
I guess the other thing is this. The call was a potential break in. So with a break in, you have no idea if the guy is still there, if he has a gun, etc.
I can understand the guns drawn for it, but man do they need to communicate better both ATF and local PD.
no no, not the public because some of the public are disgusting people who commit horrible crimes and they don’t deserve better
The people deserve everything we get. "We" keep voting for people that continue to expand the authority of the government.
I just find it astonishing how officers can get so overwhelmed when going through this process as agent Burke seemed to have been. It really sheds light on what an average citizen can go through let alone a trained officer.
The atf agent was actually super cool at first, confidently denying the officer his request to get on the ground, offering to show him credentials etc, its only when the cop went full nutcase that the atf agent lost his composure as well, but you're right, if it wound the atf agent off the dial then a normal citizen is only going to be as much on edge at best, way worse and get shot at worst.
He forgot that retard cops are dangers to everyone and that fancy little badge doesn't protect you from power trips or tasers
@@maveric619 no but it means hes getting a big ass check from it and that cop is getting fired.
@@infall_blackmetal He might get a Cheque but the Cop will probably keep his job, sadly
@@135Ops if he wins the court case the cop will lose his job.
Just to follow up - discovery on the lawsuit showed a couple interesting things. The ATF agent here had previously been both demoted and put under a "Last Chance Agreement" for his employment thanks to criminal behavior. This event caused him to be investigated and terminated for Conduct Unbecoming of a Special Agent.
He was operating here without backup and without clear identification visible despite being told that local law enforcement had been called and we're enroute.
The target of his investigation (a delayed NICS rejection - that is, NICS cleared the firearm purchase, then later it got flagged as "whoops we messed up, go seize the gun") wasn't home - and he was pounding on the door ordering the wife to open up. She feared for herself and her children, called 911, and fled to the basement.
The officers here putting this former special agent in his place (knocking him off his "rules for me not for thee" pedestal) leading to his investigation and termination was the best thing that could've happened here.
You are a liar
Agreed that ATF agent is a scumbag.
At least one person here knows the real truth and not what has been selectively presented in this video
I knew I took the side of the locals for some reason. It just seemed out of context. A gut feeling
Could you possibly frame the ATF agent in a dimmer light haha. The cops had no plausible cause to believe the agent was committing a crime because the 911 caller had only requested them to verify that the ATFs credentials were valid. They could have simply checked there. And knowing this fact they didn’t ask the ATF for the credentials for an entire hour.
This escalated fast and it was all Ego driven. You notice how quickly the cops started to get on the same page, even when the other officers weren't there.
Yeah I said the same thing, the assholes first thing he said was, "ah yeah man you're good" when he literally wasn't even there to see what or how it happened, but he straight goes to back up the horrendous behavior, that's just grand. The cops are the most dangerous gang in the country and they get to wear a fuckin badge while they are in it. They scare the shit out of me.
I saw that as Police Brutality/Bullying if that's how they act when confronting a ATF agent, what would they do to you...
The ATF agent also had a big ego, though, unsurprisingly. He did not even explain his decision to not get on the ground. Was there any risk that he could not observe the house resident anymore or such? No. He could have gotten to the ground without any detriment. ... Maybe he wanted to fish for a lawsuit to boost his income. ATF agents would likely thoroughly embrace that capitalist spirit.
If the info that reached the cop through 'police Chinese whispers' was a potential impersonator on site, then he had reason to be careful, especially with the guy armed, and especially as long as he was alone there.
The whole bullshit of immediately going over the top with the telling him to get on the ground like a dog and the officer having his weapon drawn before even encounter the AFT agent set the whole thing in motion to go entirely wrong! What innocent person want to get on the ground? He wasn't acting violent so hand on the head and don't move would have been reasonable enough! But over escalation and acting like a master over the citizenry just causes way to many problems!!
@@geomann1009 You should go become a cop and show em how it's done. Change it from the inside.
5 seconds from "Let me see your hands" to gun drawn and "Get on the ground". His hands were visible the whole time. The officer showed up and started escalating the encounter immediately. When the ATF agent complied by raising his hands the officer escalated his commands and tone. The officer gave him a fraction of a second to produce ID before drawing his gun. If this officer could get a grade lower than F he'd deserve it.
right then explains over and over to everyone there there why he tazed him..he knew he fucked up..
Hey, you need at least 7 days to check an ID, it is very very difficult.
You can tell that to the US citizen Carlos Rios, that although he had his passport with him and said that several times, the ICE NEVER checked it and was put into a dentention center for 7 days.
They settled for 125.000$ a month ago.
The only way I can see reasoning for the short timespan is the officer noticing the firearm on the atf agent. An officer seeing a firearm tends to require fast action- not saying what the officer did was correct tho- just what could be a reason.
If he was a fed he shouldn’t have refused his commands. I don’t blame the cop AT ALL for drawing on this clown. He was clearly armed and not behaving like a federal agent.
@@Balin93
I don't know about Ohio, but there are states that allow open carry. Secondly, there was NO immediate threat posed by the ATF agent. Additionally NO citizen should be treated this way. Within seconds of arriving the moron cop pulled his gun, most police departments have procedures on use of force, and " deadly " force ( i.e their gun ), being the last resort. That moron cop is the reason why this escalated.
*reaches for ID*
Cop: “Don’t reach for your waist!”
Also Cop: “yeah he never showed us ID”
i lived this once, cop accused me of refusing to show ID, his own cruiser video+audio showed he wouldnt allow me to, thankfully the supervisor listened to me, called a cop who knew me who was on duty over, who confirmed i walked that round regularly with computer shit, because me and my friends would take out computers to eachothers place using a wagon and backpack and game, then take stuff home, the cop was 100% sure i was a burgler... "why would he be out this late with a whole computer???" the cop who knew me was like "because, hes a kid, and kids stay up late, and sleep late, oh and, because hes got friends who share his interests, were you never a teen?" he went on and on. it was great... mostly because that cop was just fed up with the lack of critical thinking he saw in younger cops...its also why he retired a few years ago and told me, he was fedup with the kinda cops they had been hiring including the one he knew, ruined my life, over lies, he only learned this years later when she went drinking with them and bragged about destroying my life over what she knew were lies.. :(
@@AshenTech how tf did this ruin your life
Exactly! That cop was a douche. At one point you can tell he realized he screwed up and keeps trying to tell his side to every other cop that walks by.
so stupid this officer
@@asiimovawper9884 this didnt, being falsely accused of rape, and cops knowing it was a lie, but threatening the girl with prison if she recanted.
false rape claims ruin lives... even more so when the cop involved hates males and wont even back down when shes dead wrong.
Not even 5 seconds into the investigation and he immediately has his gun pointed and is in a flurry. He should never be allowed near a weapon of any capacity.
ATF " Im going to show you my ID."
Cop " Dont reach for your waist."
Also Cop " He never attempted to show me any ID."
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
It’s wild, and then “you should be ashamed of yourself”. Ironic
It's like these cops who do wrong don't realize everything they say and do was recorded. Oh well, more evidence for the defense I guess.
Exactly. Ignorant local cops
You can hear how frantic the cop is trying to justify why he was a douche. You can tell he doesn't handle stress very well. Maybe not the best career choice.
*obviously not the best career choice
You hear his voice cracking while trying to say "he wouldn't comply"
Exactly. A loose canon. A fatal shooting law suit awaiting.
The vast, vast majority of cops are cowards. They wouldn't be dripping in military gear otherwise.
Amen! They all looked like Wimpy from popeye! Big ole bellies and nodding with each other.
The officers ego was crushed when the ATF agent wouldn’t listen to him 😂😂
True asf
ATA is inundated with federal shills.
OFFICER "GET ON THE GROUND NOW!!"
Agent "I'm not getting on the ground"
OFFICER "well just stay were your at"
😅
blah blah blah, sure it was, tables turned the fed would have done the EXACT same thing and we all know this... maroon
@@deandee8082 Fed has a right to tell local thugs to back off.
Agent Burke is about to become wealthy . In February (of 2024) the 6 th circuit court decided to waive immunity for both officers. ALL of agent Burke’s legal claims were upheld by the court. Furthermore they decided the matter does warrant a jury trial without the officers typical benefit of qualified immunity. This is a big deal and may clarify for courts when, and when not, qualified immunity is available to law enforcement. You can easily see how this could make cops just a wee bit more careful with the public. The defense in this case was completely destroyed by the court. I’m sure the city of Columbus will make an out of court settlement offer. One that Agent Burke and his legal team will find hard to turn down. The court found, aiming a loaded gun at an unarmed federal Agent, then tasing him AFTER He identifies himself was not “ reasonable “. Who knew.
The ATF is evil. Most people working for these agencies routinely abuse the public. Situation is disgusting because he'll get a payday then continue to work abusing people with protection of the federal government.
Cop: walks up "show me your ID" then directly to pulling his gun and screaming "GET ON DA GROUND!!!!".
and cops wonder why normal people fear interactions with armed bullies.
You got that rite but there armed vigilantes, and wat kills me the state paid them jahjah
Thats the truth
Loved when they tazed his bitch ass 😂😂😂
the cop with the bodycam shouldn't be alive.
he doesn't deserve it
Anyone can say they are a Federal Agent. A little cooperation would go a long way here.
Idk if the 1st cop keeps saying “if he is a real police officer then he should be ashamed” to either mentally justify himself or justify it to the body cam because I feel like it just made him look more guilty for going crazy at the initial contact of the scene.
That's exactly why that was said. He knew he overreacted, and was trying to cover his ass
100%
05:40 Can the police officer be prosecuted for lying to a Federal Agent? The Fed did verbally attempt to show his ID then the cop seems to have lied saying he did not.
Lying is not illegal. It might be relevant in the lawsuit.
From my understanding when you sign official documents they ask if everything you stated is true. So wouldn't that count as perjury?
@@ktktktktktktkt Lying CAN be illegal what are you on?
Wtf is verbally attempt
@@ktktktktktktkt search up qualified immunity. They can lie legally whenever they want in these situations. If an officer is being honest it’s because they chose to, they do not have to tell you anything of truth
I can only imagine the persons who made the call to police laughing hysterically at the situation going on outside. What an embarrassment to our federal and local law enforcement!
local cops did alright here. it's a shame that ATF agent is still breathing though
@@soujemn5boot licker 🤪
@@miguelbahena94 Yeah, being disappointed in a federal agent continuing to live is totally bool licker territory. You don't sound like a dumbass at all.
@@soujemn5
I think you need mental help
@@soujemn5local cops did terrible lol the fuck are you on? Everyone involved did terrible.
“why didn’t you show me your ID” you literally just yelled at him to show his hand and get on the ground. if he reached for his pockets, you probably would’ve shot him.
That was the plan.
They need to fire that cop ASAP before something worse happens.
He literally goes to get his id and the cop terrified tells him to keep his hands away from his waist. Where else is a federal officer going to keep his id?
6:33
"If you're a real officer you should be ashamed of yourself."
Oh man, the irony of that statement.
Is there another word for a situation like this? Irony doesn’t seem to cover it.
He was an ATF agent, I'm positive he's ashamed of himself
In the matter of 10 seconds
"Turn around, let me see your hands. Let me see your hands, I NEED TO SEE SOME ID GET ON THE GROUND NOW!!!"
Dude was an emotional wreck as soon as he showed up.
Exactly guys like that do not belong in any type of law enforcement
He is a real coward, you could hear his voice cracking and squealing. It's too bad these rival gangs didn't take each other out.
That escalated quickly.
He is way too scared to be on duty.
Out of breath, and nervous as fuck!
Federal agent doesn’t deserve a C-
More like a B-
Why is law enforcement in this country so effed up? EVERYTHING needs to be escalated to the highest levels possible
It takes at least 1 year (usually 2-3) to learn how to bake and cook, how to be a hairdresser and so on. And it takes 6 months to become a cop in USA. If you don't know how to do your job, that's exactly how you would do it - poorly.
The question should be "why are cops trained only for 6 months? why is almost everybody eligible for this career when it is a position of authority that requires relatively high knowledge of law and physical ability? why so many rotten people get into that position and aren't eradicated until they make the news?"
I think unfortunately because of the constant spotlight we just get to see the bad eggs more often. There's bad workers in every industry. The consequences of bad eggs in police departments are just more apparent and easier.
things you see in the news, on television and youtube are anecdote. The reality is the VAST MAJORITY of police encounters end peacefully and without issue. What you watch on television is the cream of the crop of things going wrong. Don't let this experience-bias let you think this is normal. The reason you only see effed up situations is because the normal 99% of situations aren't interesting or televised. These things happen in other countries, but those other countries are also more authoritarian and have state-run media, even Europe. They don't show stuff like this in their news because it makes them look bad.
because most cops were bullied when they were kids, so they became cops to get a little power trip on others. but when situation escalades, they get memorys of flash backs of them getting wedgies every time a hand goes near the waist area. Preach baby preach. they think cause they own a gun they became a man. no man needs a gun to get respect and authority. only pussys draw guns when not needed to get that instant gratification of power trip. bahahaaha.
@@goguma2008 that's seems like baseless claim
"show me your ID, GET ON THE GROUND." like he had a chance to id himself in a fraction of a second.
The ATF guy offered to ID, the cop told him to keep his hands up and not move.
How can you ID if you're not allowed to move?
Escalation by police.
FIRED ! GET OUT !
More like show me your id , get on the ground,wait don’t reach for your id then after everything he said u didn’t try to show me your id
@@shanedpain7734 Yeah these were my thoughts too guys. If the ATF agent had gotten any closer to his hip with his hand, the officer would have most likely shot a burst of rounds at the ATF agent.
This is pretty standard. They want to be able to say they asked for ID but they are not really interested in ID so they yell it and move right away to the next stage which is "get on the ground."
This is what people jokingly refer to as "Lethal Simon Says" where you have to figure out which actions are going to get you killed when an officer issues contradictory commands. Reach for your ID and you are probably dead. The correct step is get on the ground even if ID was asked for first.
But in the amped up sympathetic nervous reaction that happens under stress it is very easy for some one to follow the first command they hear and end up dead especially if several officers are issuing commands at once.
Asking for ID then ordering another action is a classic. "Open the door, Police" then firing through the door as it opens is another classic while yelling get on the ground... they keep opening because they are not done with the first command and get hit with resisting and are maybe shot. "Don't move" and "Get on the ground" are probably the most common ones and the hardest to figure out and either one can get you killed.
He repeated like 6 times: "....well, and he MAY even be a cop...." and each time he said it, you can hear him shit his pants just a little more in the fear that if he is a cop, he crossed the line and could possibly be sued........which he did.
I hope the LEOs get their peepers spanked!
I thought I heard some noise when he realized he shit his drawers.
IIn some cases dash and body cams give an accurate image, in many cases they do not. if you read the court filings for the lawsuit, the woman whose husbands gun was subject to federal seizure, read off the BATFE guy's ID number and asked if it was real. The patrol officer was NOT given that fact at all from the dispatcher.(see dispatcher transcripts from the filings) Cop was just told that the resident worried she was getting a break-in. Cop arrive the ATF guy has no windbreaker with "AFE" etc on. he doesn't have his ID or badge on a lanyard around his neck or sheild or ID on belt. in fact looks disheveled. Cop does what he is trained to do. The fact is undercover guys, and plain clothes cops DO get drawn on by uniformed cops and in large departments where people don't know each other, the undercover guy is in law enforcement practice supposed to comply. Plain cloths guys DO comply and DO not resist being cuffed.
@@teo2975 WTF? Cop is trained to shout down a person that is not hostile at all and is showing his hands. When asked for ID he was trying to get his ID and the cop told him to not get it. Don't ask for ID if you don't want the person to give it to them.
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I like how agents of the state don’t like being treated like citizens.
Local police have gone crazy thinking they're some kind of ultra terrorist swat teams in a jungle in Mogadishu.
thats how things work when you cant be something you despreately wanted to be but never had the balls to really do... like airsoft, fun little game, until some sweaty nerd goes all tryhard seal team 6 and ruins it for everybody.. same goes for these guys i think...
"Why'd you make us do this?" -Cop and also domestic abusers
Same thing
Bingo!!
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40% of police officers admit to committing domestic abuse. Those are the ones that admit it!
As a resident of Ohio, I can say the Columbus PD officer's is standard practice for many other cops. Draw your weapon and escalate the situation as much as possible. Twice, I have had cops pull their guns for literally no reason. Both times, the cops were not in control of their emotions and the encounter were very much like these. Law enforcement practices in this state are extremely broken and there is little being done to fix it.
Please make sure if you filed it complaint it went through a lawyer or straight to internal affairs
They were well within standard procedures to draw down on him. The call they got was a police impersonator trying to break into a home. They have to treat it as if they are walking up to a home invasion with an armed impersonator.
Yea ive been in columbus and dealt with cops a LOT and columbus is one of the few places cops only respond to serious situations. You have to puah them hard to get that kind of reaction
@@carryeveryday910 It's not standard procedure to draw your gun on someone unarmed who is calm and answering questions.
Same in Georgia
The lawsuit is ongoing at this time. Burke's lawyers sued on 5 counts:
Count 1: Excessive Force (42 U.S.C. § 1983)
Count 2: Monell Claim (42 U.S.C. § 1983) - This count was rejected on a motion for summary judgment and DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE. This means that the claim against the City of Columbus has been dismissed permanently, and Burke cannot sue the City again on this basis.
Count 3: Malicious/Willful/Wanton/Reckless Misconduct
Count 4: Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
Count 5: Loss of Consortium
Counts 1, 3, 4, and 5 have been allowed to proceed to trial (if the case does not settle or get resolved beforehand). Count 2 was rejected and DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE, meaning the City of Columbus cannot be sued again for this claim.
Thank you, couldn't find the update
The amount of panic displayed by this cop is unbelievable. He is not equipped to handle these tense moments.
That's what cops do bro, where you been. Agent is fortunate pig didn't kill him. He should have called pigs who had jurisdiction and verified who he was before he showed up at people's home armed. Traditionally it's a long process before pigs are ready to accept a federal agent is legit. Oh that's a good looking fake badge 😂
Majority of them are that way.
The ATF shouldn't even be a organization he deserved what he got
Because the guy had a gun on his hip and wouldnt do what he was told if he had gotten on the ground it would have been fine. even if you are in the right legally you have to do what cops say
@@baileybaker3488 "Sir, sir, listen to me, i need you to bend over!! BEND OVER RIGHT KNOW!" Said the cop. Bailey was just trying to buy some bread. But Bailey, did right away. Happy ending for everyone.
So basically...
Cop: "Show me your ID!"
Agent: *reaches for wallet*
Cop: *points gun* "DON'T REACH FOR YOUR WAIST!!!!"
Agent: "I tried to show you my credentials."
Cop: "No you didn't..."
I would say quit fucking with me
That Columbus cop is an undertrained bonehead
This is one time I'm rooting for the cop. ATF can go to hell!!
Yeah I've dealt with duchebag cops like these guys. I got tackled to the ground and handcuffed for the crime of the century "running a stop sign on a bicycle on residential street." It was the same thing cop stops says "you"...I answered "me" and pointed to my chest...Cop freaks out and draws his gun "STOP REACHING!!!" "GET UR HANDS UP!!! NOW!" "ON THE GROUND" I'm like "for what?" "What did I do?" he just kept yelling "ON THE GROUND" "ON THE GROUND"...Later he kept saying that he thought I was going to pull out a gun...you know from my T-shirt. I'm guessing guys like this get off on having "Authority".
@@teru797 or don’t root for either
"We *had* to taser him."
Right. Sure you did. Because him peacefully surrendering while on his feet is just inexcusable behavior.
He had to get his emotions out by taser gun.
I can't stand how they all try to force people to the ground. I'm not an animal. I'm not your bitch. I'm not going to my knees. I'm not sitting on the curb. I'm not laying on the ground. Look what happened to Shaver when he attempted to fall on his face due to the commands of law enforcement.
@@i.r.4378 Well, he's compensating for something down there.
That cop knew he was ATF, he just wanted to give him a hard time. Ah ha ha ha
The police seem to be falling over themselves to justify their actions.
Imagine how they treat the public if that's how they treat an alleged ATF agent.
Just like most people...
@@Damitsall You're implying they'd treat an ATF agent better. If anything, I'd treat an ATF agent worse.
@@HighAdmiral huh?
Yea on video how you didnt allow him to show his creds
This cop knew he messed up because he had to reassure himself the whole time to all his buddies that he did the right thing 😂
excellent point and a lot of police on this channel do that...
And they all assured him he was right because they don't know shit either !!
Send him to jail!
I just commented almost the same thing, they're justifying to themselves and the other officers that the way they handled the situation is the right and best way to do it.
And the story they tell their buddies it's never quite what actually happened. This one is closer to the truth than most, probably because there was a witness, but still has significant misrepresentations. I remember thinking that the body cameras would slow the lying down. Silly me.
“We had to use the taser”. Oh how the members of the Jury laughed
@@koopatroopa187 thank god you said something
Wow, I farted!
Meh, ATF agents don't have rights, not guilty.
Cops do more damage than atf agents yet you still support them. Most atf members aren't even bad the only things i see against atf agents are ridge and waco. Meanwhile, I can name hundreds of terrible things the police did.@@costakeith9048
The two officers that arrived at the scene with guns drawn should be in prison. They never once asked for his credentials, just tried to force a federal officer to the ground with no knowledge of the situation at all.
The ATF agent needs to be in prison
It’s funny how y’all trash local police but defend federal police
Retired cop myself, This police officer overreacted and was acting scared and panic. This was a screw up on the local guys part.
I see someone who is a federal law enforcement agent who thinks he's above the law. Anyone can say "I'm a federal agent". Egos all the way around which really doesn't serve the public interest. Having seen how law enforcement operates in other countries, you are all a bunch of clowns. Welcome to America where we put overgrown children in charge. It all comes down to the pathetic state of US education. Utterly ashamed when I see crap like this.
@@finkelroy211 Exactly. Cops tell you to get on the ground at gunpoint, get down.
The locals were acting on their egos.
Wrong the ATF gets an F. When a local cop pulls up you comply with all the commands. Then when everything is sorted then you can procced. Put aside federal agents shouldnt be aloud to walk around unescorted. Local cops trump federal. Maintaining that is important to make sure we dont chafe under the fed and get rebellions.
@@darcyrobbs6866ATF needs to be dissolved. Nothing but a bunch of 2A haters with small man syndrome that love consistent paychex paid on our dime.
It took 7 seconds from initial contact to draw his gun, this officer is nuts.
A guy, who you think impersonates police and wants to "take the guns" off another person, you would greet calmly when he approaches you?
Do you carry bodybags with you, or do you sell them? I'm not sure, you don't seem normal.
@@revisit8480 The call had nothing to do with guns it was an attempted break in call. Upon arrival the officer sees a man standing at the front door with a clipboard. This officers actions does not match the situation.
@@revisit8480 bootlicker of the year award
It makes sense for police to draw their weapons when dealing with an attempted break-in report when the suspect is armed
@@archerymidnight3422 yeah but again he wasnt armed
The cop is absolutely hysterical. 8 seconds in and he's freaking out screaming like an 8 year old "get on the ground" the entire time he's pumped you can hear it in his voice and breathing.
Yes! He sounds like he ran up a flight of stairs
He was even asking for approval from his superior, panicking. He’s an unsure little baby who went on a power trip
it was actually 5 seconds...
I mean I sort of understand it. If the call comes over and it says “potential break in” you have no idea I think at that point if the buddy has a gun or something.
We actually just had an officer killed a couple weeks go kid was going around grabbing door handles, next thing you know cops come and buddy got in a fight with the cops and killed on of the officers.
So when it comes into breaking in or something I can understand the guns drawn.
What I will say is I think both the ATF agent and the local PD should have done a better job communicating that he was on the job, but I also think the PD should have detained (in handcuffs) and let go until it was resolved.
Also leave it to the ATF not to communicate they were doing a service in the local area and not have a local guy dispatched with him.
@@tendyedits1272 did you miss the part about knowing what he was doing and even having his badge number before they arrived on scene?
That's what they call a taste of their own medicine...
As he tries to show his credentials. "Don't reach for anything!!" What a power trip
This!!
Zing!
It’s funny the cop saying who should be ashamed of themselves?? When you come in guns blazing for no reason of course people are going to resist…
Let me add, the caller already gave the police his name and badge number. What incompetence. They tazed him!
They have made it a habit to always yell out specific things so as to pre-build the case for discharging their firearms.
The cop literally never gave a chance to the agent to show his documents.
The ATF are illegal anyway he deserves it all
They are both POS I hope the cop gets sued criminally and civil.
@@allopez8563 get sued criminally?
@What saith the scripture? the constitution? from fallout 4?
@@Chronically20Something Weeeell no but yes. I meant criminal charges for not checking on an ambulance, the ATF could have an arrythmia and had a cardiac arrest shortly after he got tased.
"Why wouldn't you show me your ID when I got here?"
*Screams "Show me you hands" "Get on the ground" when he arrives*
I laughed so hard when he said "YOU DIDNT ASK FOR IT"
The Officer had a total bruh moment.
Sounds like he pulled a reverse uno on the atf agent
To be fair he did ask for the ID. To be accurate it was far less than a second before forcing him on the ground.
@@ChJuHu93 don't forget when the ATF agent literally reached for his ID he ordered him not to and to keep his hands in the air
WTF... If that is the most stressful situation those Officers have had...maybe they should consider a new line of work.
In November 2022, the city of Columbus, Ohio, agreed to pay $440,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by ATF Agent James Burk, who alleged that he was subjected to excessive force by Columbus police officers during a 2018 arrest. The lawsuit went to trial in November 2022, but the city and Burk’s attorneys reached a settlement agreement before the jury could reach a verdict.
The settlement agreement provides Burk with $440,000 in compensation for his injuries and emotional distress. It also requires the city to provide training to its police officers on the use of force and on the rights of federal agents.
“I gave you the option to show us your creds” my ass. He had his gun out and started screaming at him the second he got there…
Gave him no time
In other videos, the officers claim the Federal Cred.s could be fake, so arrest the guy anyways - who was a fed.
This has to be the dumbest cop I've ever seen. Would not let the agent show his ID. Then says he should have shown some ID.
It is even worse. The cop stopped him from giving his ID literally seconds after he asked for them.
"I need to see some IDGet on the ground!"
Exactly. Let me show you my creds...Don't reach for it
All he had to do was get on the ground and it would have been over.
@@donaldmei8797 but that's not the issue. he asked him for his ID, then refused to allow him to do so. that's just stupid. if you're not going to allow someone to provide ID why ask?
Ego, entitlement, and high adrenaline are what fueled this entire encounter. Also, this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. It seemed like a comedy show.
It’s funny when cops get abused by other cops like they do to civilians!
@@Billybob-go8hn “I was trying to give you my creds!!!” LOL!!!!!
dumb cop vs. glow /\/1993r. absolutely hilarious.
That sounds like that cop wet his fucking pants 😂😂😂
Exactly! Nothing else to see here. Both of their egos were being bruised. And just by all the officers tones you just imagine how they treat regular citizens smfh.
Only local police are allowed to kick your door in without a warrant. The fed agent should’ve known that. 😂
Why do you assume he didn't?
He never tried to kick in the door, he threatened to stay there all day
They blatantly choose the story that justifies their actions. She didn't say he was trying to break in, she said yes to the question but proceeded to describe him saying he will wait outside until thee evening if he had to. Why would someone who says they will wait if he planned on breaking into the house... Confirmation bias at its finest.
All of that was after the fact. The fed should've complied.
I peeped that too! He immediately exaggerated what was told to him just a few moments prior! Very bogus and seems almost leading folks so that they can have his back.
Should have detained errrrrbody
Cop: did he try to break in?
Lady: yes and he still knock and wait .
Clearly being selective with what words are understood which are not
A knock is not a break in
She doesn't sound like a native English
Speaker though so we may not know of she understood what the officer meant
What i find abhorrent is that the cop says "first thing is, he should've had his badge out the moment I got here". Dude, you got out of your car and drew your gun and immediately started issuing commands. You never gave him a chance to show you his badge.
Spot on. These local pigs were nutcases.
Lmfao my sentiments exactly....but..Give him a chance?!? The cop actually stopped him from showing it lol
he might've been shot reaching for his badge
yup. the agent said from the beginning that he was an agent but then threatened him every single time he tried to reach for his ID
True but at the same time why would he let the unknown person pull something out of his pocket? If the atf agen truly would have been an impersonator he shouldn't be allowed to reach for his pocket.
"I'm not overreacting" he shouts, gun in hand, to an unarmed, calm man.
Why are they allowed to do that? Because the American people have been lied to, and have no governing authority over their country.
He was armed, not unarmed. Listen a bit more closely. 13:53
How quickly that police office just started lying was amazing. On 2 counts I saw the agent reach for his info and the officer said don't reach for you waist.
That officer's cracking voice tells you everything you need to know about his emotional state.
Any confrontation with a possible threat sets off personal emotional warnings and is to be expected. A federal officer should have seen that and complied knowing that a police officer must a investigate and a sudden movement may get him shot.
@@TheTechnologyFox Hold cops accountable, if you are going to practice law enforcement you need to have control over your emotions. That officer escalated the situation the second he got there with no reason.
@@TheTechnologyFox How the fuck do you comply when the order is "DON"T REACH FOR YOUR WAIST"? The officer literally made compliance impossible.
@@Bureaucromancer I agree with all the comments above this but dude don't reach your waist is a simple command
@@toriwallace9622 remember that the report came is as someone who was possibly representing himself as a police officer. The ATF agent should have had his badge visible. Also, just because someone says he is a police officer that does not make them one. The persons in the apartment house did the correct thing by calling to police. The ATF agent seemed to be undercover and no matter what he says, the officers first responsibility it to protect himself and the citizens. Comply with orders and settle questions in court.
Someone should have called the DEA, claiming there is a gang of drug dealers dressed up as police officers abducting a rival druglord. Now that would have been exciting😆
i mean it would be true half of the time 😑
I 💜 this comment
Lmao. You won the internet with this one!
@John Grzeskowiak none of them are innocent
Folks, just remember to call the police when an ATF agent knocks your door!
LOL!
Especially, if the weapons are sold to Iraqi immigrants
Maybe they'll kill each other, then kill the cop caller.
lmfao!!
Brilliant! 😜
I love how the cop acts like having it all on video is a good thing for him. All he had to do was give the ATF officer a chance to show his credentials. At no point did he do so. From zero to 60 in 2.5 seconds.
Imagine being so scared of your job that you immediately draw a weapon on a guy holding nothing but sheets of paper
@@awrebyawe It seems like most departments intentionally hire people who think the stuff they see in action movies is true.
@Spooky sarcasm
An armed man was trying to break into a private residence, given he didn't have a warrant whether or not he was an ATF agent was completely irrelevant to the scenario.
@@costakeith9048 yes because knocking on the door is trying break in.....
WOW, these guys are escalation specialists. Taser totally inappropriate
“AFT” agent... that's reason enough for me 😉
He’s an ATF agent, he’s out on behalf of the ATF, they should taser him again.
They're well-trained in it. On average, they get 15 times more training on the shooting range, for example, than they do learning how to de-celerate situations, identify mental illness, recognize domestic abuse, etc.
@@eleanoraquitaine2966 training goes a long way, and if we keep destroying budgets and demonizing the position all that range time will be their tool.
It’s sad to see the hostility get to a boiling point where it just isn’t logical or rational. If more people focused on local laws, community events, relations with local officers, proper funding for good training things would be better. Support your local law enforcements for be an active community member, build relationships with your community and enable those you give the role of law enforcement to do a stand up job for the community and allow them to be praised for good work. We need to praise good work more, we can bash bad work all day but what about those who put in their due diligence for those around them, they should earn respect and have a chance to revive earned respect. A healthy society is grateful for those who serve it justly, and gives back to those who do good work. I do not think we have a very healthy society at large.
@@ApolloTheDerg A good effective workforce that does its job as defined (in this case, protect and serve the people who pay them) starts with good hiring practices. More than 40% of LE admitted to DV against their partners in a recent survey. That only counts the ones who told the truth. First, hire better then train better. It's really not very complicated. Quit hiring bullies and giving them weapons.
“WhY dIdN’t YoU sHoW mE yOuR bAdGe?!”
You know the second he reached for his badge that officer would have unloaded his entire magazine into that ATF agent because “I tHoUgHt He WaS rEaChInG fOr A wEaPoN”
Well, it’s an atf agent so it’s no big loss
funny thing if it did happen and the atf agent died that cop would have been locked away in a federal pen for life as there is no jury that would believe a federal officer was reaching for anything but his badge
@@surfingtothestars yeah because keeping guns and drugs out of criminals hands is a bad thing 🤦♂️
@@wadeault9227 nobody Said it was however the atf has one the worst histories of all federal agency and caused way to much damage that could have been avoided
@@wadeault9227 the ATF kills more dogs than PETA
“I’m not overreacting” as he points a gun at his face lmfao
Cop: "Put your hands up"
also Cop: "Why didn't you show me your ID?"
also Cop: "DONT REACH"
I was once pulled over and asked for ID, registration, and proof of insurance. I gave them ID and asked if I could go into the glove box to grab the insurance and registration. They said " no not at this time". I was subsequently arrested and charged with failure to provide insurance upon request. The pigs do this intentionally knowing the district attorneys will plea out their charges anyway.
Why didn't you is not "Do".
@@twiggypie2314 Give em a break, they usually employ "slow" people to be pigs. ;)
he only said the first one of those
Right. The cop is so fn’ stupid that he didn’t allow the atf to show creds, yet argues why didn’t you show your creds. He should be fired. He is so panicked and scared he can’t process words that he’s saying which deny the atf the opportunity to identify himself.
They escalated that so fast the agent was literally speechless, he couldn’t even articulate that he was trying to I.d.
He articulated it in the very beginning. The second time he said he was getting it was when he was shouted at to keep his hanfs out of his pockets by the troglodyte.
The cops that drew his gun and pointed it stopped trying to listen to what the ATF agent was saying. He just kept cutting him off and yelling. If this is how their cops are trained to behave then that should be unacceptable.
Quite similar to a person being pulled over for suspicion of driving a stolen vehicle and even though the person insist it’s they’re the owner and have paperwork that person is still detained and possibly cuffed instead of getting the relevant documents and proceeding accordingly.
Cops want you to instantly obey their orders otherwise you are in contempt of cop
Cop - SHOWMEYOUR ID!!!111GETONTHEGROUND!!!!
Cop - Why cant you show me your ID?GET ON THE GROUND!!11
jeez dude, can you give him like a second to respond? is GETONTHEGROUND your autocorrect for Please?
Upon pulling up to the scene the cop IMMEDIATELY said "let me see your hands" and not even half a second after saying "I need to see some ID," his gun is drawn and pointing at him.. Never once asked the ATF officer whats going on nor did he ever probably intend to. In his mind the ATF officer was already a "bad guy," and he was scared before he even got there.
I have encountered many police that are in full hysteria mode as they emerge from their vehicles.
It seems to me this could be alleviated some what by having two officers in every car.
Being alone is in their line of work I would imagine a bit unnerving. The problem is that level of fear is contagious. The verging on panic screeching voice puts every one on edge. Adrenaline starts to flow and next thing you know every body is ready to run or fight.
@@owensthilaire8189 The federal agent was also very alone, but at least he was composed up to the arrest. I'm not a cop, but I'm not gonna pretend all officers act the same way approaching a non threatening individual. Some don't act like this, and the fact that the arresting officers had already made up their mind says a lot about them
But he also has been told what the supposed case was.
I had soldiers who were right out of high school when we deployed to Iraq would put these 2 jokers to SHAME.LOL.😊😊REAL TALK.Dealt with REAL pressure like a CHAMP!!! Even in a combat zone every situation doesn't require use of force,sometimes common sense is the rule.That's why I brag on my former soldiers sooo much.SEMPER-FI.
I never get why an officer would say put your hands in the air then seconds later tell you he needs to see your ID. How are you going to get is safely is my question? I would rather be tackled by the officer taken to the ground before ever moving my hands in front of a officer with his adrenaline running a thousand miles per hour.
the system against the system it’s great🤣🤣🤣