San Diego cops tried to steal my 72 Chevy El Camino. People were stealing parts off my vehicle after the police arrested me on bogus charges instead of going after the real criminals. The cops have gang bangers (Crips) working for Cops in City Heights in San Diego. That substation needs to be investigation!
I just realized that Mr. Martinez was the same person that was confronted by LEOs at the doorway of his college dorm room. When this guy graduates and passes the bar, he's gonna be a BOSS.
@@Rightrudder2 Thank you for using FOOLISH COPS in your comment. Something is very wrong with the disrespect that many cops show to an AMERICAN 🇺🇸 CITIZEN.
@@FLIPPER1439bro, cops hate the public. My father in law is a detective, I've read the texts with his cop buddies. They fucking hate us. It's funny too because they all say the most racist shit about the public even if they're the same race! I've heard black cops use the term monkey, ive heard mexican cops use aliens. They hate us.
@@Mudflat_Man🙄 dont need to be a lawyer to see this young man is already doing a great job.... just like i dont need to be a child to know you're a child
"Im not here to argue either, Im here to defend my rights" that is ABSOLUTELY the correct thing to say!!!! props to this young man good luck to his future
This law student kid knows more than the cops. I love how he gleefully lets them arrest him, knowing he’s about to get a nice lawsuit coming from it and hopefully a nice payday.
The government will never make an offer of settlement. The government attorneys and judges will cause so much delay that it will take years to get to court. When it does get to court whether decided by a judge or a jury, they will give him a few thousand dollars which he will have to share with an attorney who will end up doing the work for about minimum wage.
“You didn’t give me your ID? We’re gonna do a kidnapping on you then, illegally search your car then try to impound it.” The egos on these cops is unbelievable.
I am mixed on this , he had reasonable articulable suspicion a crime had been committed . A call of trespassing and theft had been received . The investigation showed a person matching the description was there and going thru a car he didn’t have the keys to . I think they should have detained him and then investigated more but I think they had PC to hold him to ascertain his identity at least . Not failure to ID as he didn’t have to until he was arrested .(dependent on state)
@@jakesnow96i think it was a dorm i didn’t recognize this was him he was clowning the police a lot harder in the other video. maybe had a few beers in him lol
@@micahkkard69420 yeah I have watched a lot of him. I’ve shied away from him a tad. Idk why. Sometimes he is too much. My favs are James Freeman and Lackluster. First amendment auditors channels were really good like 4 yrs ago. Then it seemed like every loser felon with a camera decided to become “auditors” and act like fools for clicks. Sean does do a good job tho. Very calm demeanor.
Right? How the hell did he get an A-? I came right from my RUclips channel on the tv to my Phone app to complain. He gets an A++ for doing extra credit.
@Jim-hj4py I wish I could start again and be level-headed like this young man. I really enjoy criminal law.. I picked up a criminal case law book and loved it. Still got it. Next life, maybe.
He finessed the police with their own game. “If he apologizes, I wont take this to litigation.” Sounds very similar to how police interrogate suspects, “If you work with me, I’ll (insert some fake benefit to the suspect).” Then he got the supervisor to record the deputy’s confession. Amazing work.
That really was an incredibly slick trap Mr. Martinez executed. Getting that assist from the supervisor was next level mind-fu@kery. Easiest payday ever if Mr. Martinez pursues litigation. I'm certain they'll settle once these two idiots realize how they've screwed themselves right out of any defense.
I am a journeyman electrician. I HAVE to know a roughly 500 page national electrical code book inside and out in order to obtain my license. I also had to take 5 years of night classes. If I install or repair electrical equipment improperly, I can be sued for everything I own. I am totally accountable to my customers. Police are accountable to nobody. This must end.
"Have him apologize and I won't litigate." *officer admits in detail why he was wrong and what he did was illegal* "Cool, you just lost your qualified immunity in the lawsuit." Savage.
@@justjay4586js is also short for “just” or “juss” which is slang for “just”. “Js” (meaning just saying) is obviously shorter than “js saying”, but the latter isnt incorrect.
@@myname_2663This isn't something unique to cops. Nearly every profession will have people defending, supporting, or sticking up for their coworkers. Birds of a feather.
Man this kid is 100% going to make a excellent lawyer one day. I hope his college is giving him extra credit for these interactions he's been having with the police.
So what police are supposed to do is monitor the situation and ask question. If the person who called wasnt even sure if a crime happened or not the police cant make assumptions unless they have strong non bias reasoning
@@ryanodonnell8515That’s not true at all. Castle Rock v Gomez. Police are not required to show up to protect you, they are required to enforce the law.
I cannot wait for this kid to pass the bar! I hope he goes into civil rights law. But he’ll probably be a high price criminal lawyer that I couldn’t afford.
@@captivethoughts1745 I don't think the cop would be sorry for any reason because there are no negative consequences for his actions. He doesn't have to be sorry.
he also will probably get a settlement since the cost of the court hearing is greater than him being payed off. i got 50$ for not fighting my speeding ticket because i wanted the radar gun tested.
I missed the beginning where ATA explained that, and when I heard Joel say "a call is not reasonable articulable suspicion" it clicked that it was him lol this dude already has signature moves against corruption
Let's be honest. He will be arrested, charged, and subsequently disbarred after an incident that is conveniently not on video. We all know how this works.
And I'm absolutely certain that he'll ever be allowed to practice at all, let alone meaningfully, from his beautiful oceanfront flying pig farm in Northern South Dakota...
This cop should have been fired. He knowingly unlawfully arrested this man and impounded his car and given the opportunity to apologise and squash this issue the cop refuses. He’s now going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money.
@@colinofay7237 No, I can prove it, with nothing more than basic logic, that good cops don't exist, and they actually CAN'T exist. If they mess up, and accidentally hire a good person to be a cop, then rather quickly the cop will witness a bad cop either violating rights, violating policies, or downright breaking the law. When they do, they have a choice: 1. They can report the bad cop, so that justice and fairness can ensue. 2. They can cover up for the bad cop, by not reporting the actions. If they choose option 1, then they will be retaliated against, bullied, pushed out of the department, or in extreme cases, framed for crimes. If they choose option 2, then they BECOME a bad cop, in that moment. Good cops don't exist, because there are no departments that don't make mistakes, and none of those mistakes, ever meet true justice. If good cops existed, then they would run the bad cops out of the departments. But that isn't the culture. Pig culture is pro-pig, not pro-citizen.
@@Tijuanabill yeah. That's the point. You would think that it would be. But it's not. If the Constitution is held up in such high regards, then when it's violated the consequences would be severe.
@@Andy-te1mw I mean...fundamentally we have a two court system, for reasons. Civil court is for restoring damages to the victim, financial or otherwise. Criminal court is for punishing the criminal, for what they did to society, by breaking the law.
@@TheMandalorianRedeemed Except in all probability he doesn't, because he's a law student. Why are you so angry that you're in all the comments spouting nonsense? Is it a cop thing, or a race thing?
He said if the cop apologizes he won’t take this any further. The cop comes out and the guy asks is there anything you want to say to me. The Cop said no. Wrong answer pal.
@@TheMandalorianRedeemed did you watch the video? He explained the same story at least 6 times lol the cop refused to contact the junk yard to confirm the man’s story. Instead he tried to bully him into giving up his ID for literally 0 reason.
he did all that rather than calling the person that owns the property ..he didnt investigate ANYTHING!!! and doesnt know RAS or PROBABLE CAUSE and violated his 1st 4th and 5th amendments!!!
He does seem like he’s studied quite a bit, but overall he needs to mature first, he seems to enjoy creating incidents to bait cops so he can show off on RUclips. If he keeps this up, then one of these days an officer might decide to “fear for their life”.
@@darkhoboI wouldn’t say there isn’t a single one. Surely there are aspiring attorneys out there that work in law enforcement. My FIL was one. I also worked as a CO for a while and at a PD for an even shorter while. Definitely not the line of work for me. But, during my training, one of the first things we went over was constitutional rights. The very first thing we learned was that “You cannot trespass the eyes”. I can’t imagine no other academy’s are teaching this, but the one I went to. It’s very disheartening, because I’m not so naive to think we don’t need peace keepers. Every civilized society needs people of sounds mind and integrity to protect those who can’t/ won’t protect themselves. I’m also not a bootlicker and believe everything a person tells me just because they’re a police officer. I’ve seen my fair share of wrongdoing during the 2.5 years in the profession. The thin blue line is real. But, in a way, I kinda understand why it’s real. Those guys and gals, good or bad, see s*** on a daily basis that change them over time. Some will never live a normal life. Could you imagine working in a big city where everyday you see overdoses (body has s*** and p*** all over it), dead children and babies, shootings, stabbings, domestic abuse… the list goes on and on…It’s not normal for someone to witness these things on a normal basis. On the other hand, I do believe we should vet our officers to the highest degree reasonable and make mandatory constitutional and de-escalation trainings every year.. along with a few others. But the most important should be the prerequisites required to get into the profession. The polygraph I took was a joke. An idiot could have passed it. A person who holds the authority to take freedom away from another should be held to the highest standard. No exceptions. And should lead by example. If caught doing something malicious or nefarious, the officer should be black listed, never allowed to work in the profession again, and possibly charged (depending on the violation, of course). Most importantly, it should be mandatory to at least have an associated degree in criminal justice to even be considered. Why is it that the department of natural resources requires a degree in most states, when police departments likely do not? Shouldn’t it be the other way around ? At the end of the day, I hate a dirty f****** pig, but I’m a reasonable person and can’t just label them all bad because of the actions of a few rogue officers. Well… maybe more than a few… a lot of rouge officer, but that would be the same as saying all black people are criminals because 30% of crimes are committed by 15% of the population. It simply isn’t true.
Lol why is the law treated so poorly? You can instantly ruin someone’s life by improper procedures. Officers do this all the time & nothing happens to them. It should be treated like the medical profession & get stripped of their badge & practice.
I agree now in my opinion I think qualified immunity was created cause they know they hire crooked people and they know potential lawsuits are going to happen
. The kid also has an ego. It goes both ways. Why threaten with a lawsuit. Just do it if you are gonna do it. Nothing was gonna make it right. He unlawfully arrested him and that’s that.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh nah I don’t think it is. wtf is a sorry gonna do. If he’s gonna take legal action he should just do that and not just say he is going to.
The Deputy lied to the face of his Supervisor. For that, his contempt, his ignorance of the Law, mocking of the student etc he deserves to go. Such an ignorant arrogant cop . Very dangerous
Agreed! They were going the way of essentially saying he was breaking into it, and didn't seem to believe it was his. Then when it came to towing it and searching it, then it was no problem. Unbelievable
They did that with my brothers stereo when it was stolen. The fact that it was a very rare German brand was enough in court to prove it was his & stolen, but when he tried to get it back after the court case, all of a sudden he didn’t have enough evidence that the stereo was his (even though it had his bands CD in it). It supposedly went to auction, but they wouldn’t even tell him the auction day for him to go buy it back.
Yes and if just purchased there’s no way it was done by calling in upon approach, as there’s no way ownership had transferred or title put in his name yet!
Martinez was being very nice to the cop, explaining why he was there, he wasn't auditing, he wasn't being anti-police. All he did was assert his right in the tiny bit and boom straight to jail, illegally searched his car, impounded it, put him in a cage and left him in torture cuffs while in the cage as if he was there for a violent crime. People still argue that we are not in a police state.
Yes, you are on point......we have evolved into a police state, because citizens have allowed cops to behave as they wish without accountability.....overdue for change.....
@@SnakeSalmon8izback POLICE DO NOT PROTECT TAXPAYERS! (Castle Rock vs Gonzales 545 U.S. 748 (2005) (Police protect the state not its citizens!) Supreme court ruled the police "Serve and Protect" the state and "NOT ITS CITIZENS". Police heroically OPPRESS and WAR against TAXPAYERS for PROFIT converting taxpayers into welfare recipients. Fairy-tale heroes in BLUE are the #1 "Most Despised TAX Collecting TYRANTS" in the Nation! NO POLICE encounter ever benefits the taxpayer! - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
If cops told the truth: "Hey brotha, I got called out here because someone seen someone else... I don't know what I'm doing or who I'm looking for so go ahead and put your hands behind your back, I'll identify you back at the station when you're locked up and you'll get money that comes to the city through taxes. Me? I'm going to try and blame you for me not caring enough to learn how to do my job properly and I'll probably get a few days off this time. Thanks for understanding and not defending yourself physically."
@@madtabby66 it is def him. wouldnt be surprised if he lost his keys on purpose after the traction from his dorm video. probably wont be the last time we see an audit involved with him. good for him
This kid is a true patriot and one of the few people who make a great impact in our country to educate law enforcement that they’re not the judge, jury and executioner. He exercises respect, and intelligence in a way that I think will be the only way to truly make change in this country’s failed policing system.
Martinez told the officer he'd drop it if he gave him an apology, and the cop didn't, unbelievable! Martinez body language shows it all in the end. Arms behing his back, body open, unafraid. The officer has his hands in front being defensive and protective.
Why do cops think you're legally required to help them with their investigation, just because someone called and complained on him. They should require a bachelors degree in Criminal Justice to be a cop... not just a 90 hour course.
@@Sirianot134 Not at all departments. Baltimore, where I live, does a 90 hour class within its Academy training program called "Stops, Searches and Arrests".
I hope this law student realizes that even though he was let go, the arrest is still an arrest record. He needs to fill out a form that entitles him to have this arrest record removed from all databases. Otherwise, he will show up as being arrested even though there was never any conviction.
Read your post again you answered your own question. He is a what now? A LAW student, pretty sure based on this interaction he has a good understanding of what his rights are and what is required of him.
There just shouldn't be any form of qualified immunity. Cops should be fully accountable for following the law, and their actions when they break the law like any other person.
The fact that there was a locksmith there leaned towards his story being truthful. It was clear that junkyard didn't call or he would have said that. So it was some random Karen calling about a "suspicious person." So he wasn't even investigating a crime.
Can you imagine the founders hearing that "We got a call" completely nullifies the entire constitution and all of our rights until the cops' curiosity is satisfied, they grow tired of tormenting us, or until their hurt feelings are soothed?
They turned Tyrant before the ink was dry on the Constitution. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. That's one of the reasons so many migrated to the lands in and west of the Appalachians after the Revolutionary War. They sought to get away from central government and experience real Liberty for themselves and their families. Their descendants still think that way to this day.
Love it at 20:00 that the officer's knew the law student flat out said he lost qualified immunity that he knew he was toast. Even the supervisor knew it
Yeah, which is why when supervisor told the officer/deputy to go, it was very sketchy, especially with improper complaint form filling. basically saying "Yeah I'll file it later..making it look not as bad and missing some details since you won't be here"
Requirements to be a lawyer: 7+ years of advanced training of the law and its statutes, ending with an incredibly difficult exam before one is allowed to practice legally. Requirements to be a police officer: A working pulse and a handcuff fetish.
He knew the law in texas, the second the officer informs him he is under arrest, he attempted to comply as he was now required. Can you really give the supervisor an A- when all of his officers involved failed so miserably?
I think Joel is my favorite reoccurring character on your show, this guy is going places and knows the law better than most of our countries police force. Keep up the good work.
I'd have to give the supervisor a lower rank just based on how quickly he jumped into the conversation as soon as he heard the deputy may lose qualified immunity. Like he seriously was like "uh oh let's stop this here. Can't have you facing consequences for your actions now can we?"
Truee, @AuditTheAudit also gets an F for not giving the supervisor an F. Who was completely on his police departments side even though he knew the story.
@@Zorklis- I understand why he didn't give him an "F". This supervisor is one of the FEW who actually unarrested him and gave him back his car. Most don't. MOST have to go to trial. HOWEVER, I certainly wouldn't give him an A-. I could understand a B minus or C.
@@wvrjl One of the FEW? He was the only one and even then he did it because he knew his department did not follow the law so he tried to cover it by doing some very sketchy things other comments have pointed out.
This is literally Turner vs Driver playing out in front of our eyes. This cop has just given this kid an air tight lawsuit. The state of Texas has just paid for this young man's law degree.
Sadly, as every lawyer or parasite into justice he will be "invited" to join a "lodge", other way, no buisness, in my country its like that, and in your country the FM doesnt even hide haha
The right to remain silent doesn’t mean he must remain silent. He chose to continuously try defuse the situation by explaining what the officers were doing wrong. They chose to ignore the laws and advice from a law student.
Because there is absolutely no way in hell ANY CIVILIAN could possibly be smarter then a cop that only had a couple months of training, no way, not possible. Cops are the smartest, most honest, hardest working upstanding humans on the face of this earth and honestly we the people should bow to them 😂. How pathetic, so many cops like these cops out there with absolutely no soul, no brains, but doesn’t matter this cop won’t be punished and tax payers will pay the bill while the moron cop keeps doing same bs and they wonder where the hate comes from and why the people are taking law into their own hands
That’s 99% of cops. Quotas on tickets and run everyone’s name. This is just blatant misuse of power and he tried to scare him into giving him his information. When we all know Joel was doing nothing wrong and never had to give up his ID.
It's not about the ID, It's about the heirarchy of power for them. They are trained to literally never back down or retreat from any situation they've escalated.
3 things, 1-Its a power move. 2-check for warrants and known history 3-have it record that he stopped you for suspicion and they will use that to mess with you more the next time you are stopped hence "known history".
@@everythingpony- When he sues for violation of various rights, such as the 4th Amendment when he demanded ID and searched his car, the violation of his right to freedom of movement, when he was arrested. Basically, they kidnapped him and stole his car.
When you swear to uphold the constitution then violate those rights. You should immediately go to prison for 2 years and never be allowed to be work as a government employee
I love how cops say “it’s up to you” when it’s about complaining or litigating. And as soon as he told the other officer he lost his qualified immunity, the supervisor shuts down the conversation. PD is a gang
That's my favorite thing I've learned while researching police stuff for writing assignments. They honestly care more about the department than anything. They prioritize rewarding officers for being loyal to the PD rather than holding up the law to the best of their ability. It's why internal reviews are such a joke. Cause 9 times outta 10 the reviewing officer won't speak out on any findings unless it is so bad that it's impossible to cover up
Exactly! That's why ATA deserves dislikes for saying the supervisor was a breath of fresh air because he "was willing to admit to his deputies mistakes"... only because he didn't want litigation, but once that entered into the conversation again he shut down the lawful citizen and was on his officers side and told them to go.
@@Zorklis- At that point it doesn’t matter because they already got a confession. That cop would have lost his qualified immunity had Mr. Martinez decided to file a lawsuit against him.
The supervisor stepping in and releasing this young man.. didn't see that one coming. Half the time it is the supervisors doing this crap and on top of that, how often do we see prosecutors refusing to drop the charges. Its amazing how if ONE person in the chain says "hey, thats not right" it saves someone from the stress, monitary concerns, and dealing with months or years of the legal process. This is very eye opening, if its this easy to fix a "mistake" then why are so many made and not caught..
@@David-bf6bzespecially when his ass damn near had a heart attack at the mention of qualified immunity. The joy I felt hearing the panic in that supervisors voice was immense.
Guitly until proven innocent. Love the banana republic we now live in. Its so out of control. And officer I'm not your dang brother, stop callibg me that
Thing is these things are equally important and equally a MASSIVE problem throughout the entire system. Judges, prosequtors, and all LEOs. Too many have egos you need to touch in the right places for even the possibility of fair treatment. And thats only if you look "right" according to them: dress, race, attitude, etc. We need to stop choosing between two bad options, and understand that both options are bad and we need a new one(s).
@@firemedic2442 Incorrect. QI is the very thing that permits you to to sue the employer, for the actions of the employee. If a Walmart checker commits a crime against you, you can't sue Walmart for that, without proving they were somehow negligible in their management of the employee. Without QI, the same will be true of police departments. You can't win a lawsuit for negligence against the employer, when you already won the case against the employee, without additional misconduct by them, beyond the actions of the employee. These are facts. This is how the law works. It doesn't really matter what your opinion is, or mine.
@@Tijuanabillhaving lawsuits be against the individual officers instead of the department, would do a lot more to persuade individual officers to follow the law and not trample on peoples rights. As satisfying as it is for a victim of police violence to recieve millions, that money ultimately comes from the taxpayer and the officer never learns a lesson. Preventing cases of police misconduct is more important than making money off of them. And the only way to prevent them is by getting rid of QI
@@Melaheidi No it wouldn't. Does prison deter murder? If prison doesn't deter murder, then how does having bad credit for exactly 7 years, deter rights violations? You know the cops will immediately file bankruptcy, and never pay a dime, right? Even if they don't, cops don't have millions of dollars. No the deterrent you want, is municipalities going broke over lawsuits, and the public electing a new mayor who puts the cops on a leash. Civil courts are for restitution. Criminal courts are for punishment. We need to make these things a crime, and not just sue cops for 11 cents, or whatever you can collect before they file BK, on the same day as the judgment. They won't even leave the courthouse to file BK.
SOMEBODY BUY THAT YOUNG LAW STUDENT A COLD BEER!!! He's earned it! He stayed utterly cool, calm and collected under rather trying circumstances. I'm impressed!
Be careful, last time he had a beer the cops tried to unlawfully search his dorm! He dealt with that one just as well as this one, he's gunna be a great lawyer
"Now you're making this bigger than it is" the cop says as he REFUSES to let the issue go, think of resolving the situation quickly and call the property manager as the next step of his investigation -- then gaslight, gaslight and gaslight some more "I'm being nice!" he says as he makes an arrest that he KNOWS wasn't necessary knowing there were more avenues to proceeding with the investigation
When that happens the city pays, the residents' taxes go up to cover it and they never go down once it's covered. The officer gets to keep his job and probably gets some paid time off. Tell me again how that's a good thing?
"Nah, I'm cool, I just wanna exercise my rights." "Oh so you wanna take it further? That what you wanna do? You wanna escalate? Put your hands behind your back."
I’m proud of this dude for sticking up for our rights? Hopefully he sued. It’s sad that it takes a law student to know his rights, hopefully more citizens know and stand up for our rights by watching videos like this.
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San Diego cops tried to steal my 72 Chevy El Camino. People were stealing parts off my vehicle after the police arrested me on bogus charges instead of going after the real criminals. The cops have gang bangers (Crips) working for Cops in City Heights in San Diego. That substation needs to be investigation!
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How do I contact you to go over a video?
I just realized that Mr. Martinez was the same person that was confronted by LEOs at the doorway of his college dorm room. When this guy graduates and passes the bar, he's gonna be a BOSS.
Every cop when hes in the case: oh fuck its the kid that was illegally detained twice, fuckfuckfuckfuck
Yep, and I hope he becomes a advocate for citizens that are mistreated by foolish cops....
@@Rightrudder2 Thank you for using FOOLISH COPS in your comment.
Something is very wrong with the disrespect that many cops show to an AMERICAN 🇺🇸 CITIZEN.
I remember that. So this is the same guy huh ? 🤔
@@FLIPPER1439bro, cops hate the public. My father in law is a detective, I've read the texts with his cop buddies. They fucking hate us. It's funny too because they all say the most racist shit about the public even if they're the same race! I've heard black cops use the term monkey, ive heard mexican cops use aliens. They hate us.
"All this for a car, bro" - says the cop arresting a guy with no good reason.
" It's my f*cking car!"
@@TheMandalorianRedeemedwe found the cop
@@TheMandalorianRedeemedwhy are you spamming every comment? We get it. You love the cop but they still aren’t going to date you, boy.
@@TheMandalorianRedeemedWhat about his story didn't add up to you?
No good reason? How does he know its his car when he's getting a locksmith?
This dude is going to make a great lawyer one day. I’m glad we have someone like him on our side.
Seems likely
The guy is just getting work experience!
Hope he comes back to NM, we have the worst cops in the country here.
apparently you don't know many lawyers...lol
@@Mudflat_Man🙄 dont need to be a lawyer to see this young man is already doing a great job.... just like i dont need to be a child to know you're a child
"Im not here to argue either, Im here to defend my rights" that is ABSOLUTELY the correct thing to say!!!! props to this young man good luck to his future
This law student kid knows more than the cops. I love how he gleefully lets them arrest him, knowing he’s about to get a nice lawsuit coming from it and hopefully a nice payday.
So do you. Everyone knows more than cops. Cops are the dumbest m'fers we can dig up, who couldn't get hired at Taco Bell.
and citizens are supposed to know every law on the books but cops have qualified immunity to get around being ignorant of the laws they enforce.
He's not a law student. He's an undergrad criminal justice major
Not everybody gets out of jail alive. Sandra Bland
The government will never make an offer of settlement. The government attorneys and judges will cause so much delay that it will take years to get to court. When it does get to court whether decided by a judge or a jury, they will give him a few thousand dollars which he will have to share with an attorney who will end up doing the work for about minimum wage.
“You didn’t give me your ID? We’re gonna do a kidnapping on you then, illegally search your car then try to impound it.” The egos on these cops is unbelievable.
Can you say "to·tal·i·tar·i·an·ism" boys and girls. LMFAO
LOL spot on.
I am mixed on this , he had reasonable articulable suspicion a crime had been committed .
A call of trespassing and theft had been received .
The investigation showed a person matching the description was there and going thru a car he didn’t have the keys to .
I think they should have detained him and then investigated more but I think they had PC to hold him to ascertain his identity at least .
Not failure to ID as he didn’t have to until he was arrested .(dependent on state)
@@Bugginout79 none of the above is justified, as NO CRIME had been committed.
@@Bugginout79 can you articulate the crime he committed?
This guy is 2-0 against the police. Living legend.
I thought he looked familiar. Same guy from the apartment right?
The GOAT
@@jakesnow96i think it was a dorm i didn’t recognize this was him he was clowning the police a lot harder in the other video. maybe had a few beers in him lol
You should look up long island audit. I believe he is 8-0 or 9-0 against the gang members
@@micahkkard69420 yeah I have watched a lot of him. I’ve shied away from him a tad. Idk why. Sometimes he is too much. My favs are James Freeman and Lackluster. First amendment auditors channels were really good like 4 yrs ago. Then it seemed like every loser felon with a camera decided to become “auditors” and act like fools for clicks. Sean does do a good job tho. Very calm demeanor.
"ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG AND I WONT LITIGATE"
MASTERFUL USE OF POLICE INTERROGATION TACTICS TO GAIN EVIDENCE!
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Right? How the hell did he get an A-? I came right from my RUclips channel on the tv to my Phone app to complain. He gets an A++ for doing extra credit.
@@derekrowe6890 💯 😅
A+ moment
He has been paying attention in his Law School classes.
@Jim-hj4py
I wish I could start again and be level-headed like this young man.
I really enjoy criminal law.. I picked up a criminal case law book and loved it.
Still got it.
Next life, maybe.
He finessed the police with their own game. “If he apologizes, I wont take this to litigation.” Sounds very similar to how police interrogate suspects, “If you work with me, I’ll (insert some fake benefit to the suspect).”
Then he got the supervisor to record the deputy’s confession.
Amazing work.
yep, sadly the supervisor was also at fault and was doing everything to stop the litigation from happening, guy is sketchy.
That really was an incredibly slick trap Mr. Martinez executed. Getting that assist from the supervisor was next level mind-fu@kery.
Easiest payday ever if Mr. Martinez pursues litigation. I'm certain they'll settle once these two idiots realize how they've screwed themselves right out of any defense.
@@lf3541- Right. That cop can kiss qualified immunity goodbye after that confession.😂
Yessss haha
Yeah but lying to the cops is a crime. He committed a crime
Joel is now 2-0 against the police, ROFL.
This is the same guy that refused an illegal search of his dorm room?
@@maxspeed57 yes, he is. Maybe he is targeted by the police? :-D
@@tipsybroom2Wouldn't honestly be suprised.
Yeah, I remembered him too lol
This guy will be in demand when he comes a lawyer!
I am a journeyman electrician. I HAVE to know a roughly 500 page national electrical code book inside and out in order to obtain my license. I also had to take 5 years of night classes. If I install or repair electrical equipment improperly, I can be sued for everything I own. I am totally accountable to my customers. Police are accountable to nobody. This must end.
Real shit it takes 5 years of schooling while on the job working full time test almost as hard as the bar exam
@@vancebonneau3693 Exactly. Cops get a few pathetic weeks of academy training, and are then turned loose to potentially terrorize us.
Cops are not supposed to the law. If they were, PDs would hire lawyers to be cops, not some John Doe who finished high school
Knowing inside and out is a bit of a reach but knowing how to navigate it and studying them for in class and the final exam definitely
Amen
They just made this kid stronger. Not only giving him more experience in how police operate, but also paying his tuition.
"Have him apologize and I won't litigate."
*officer admits in detail why he was wrong and what he did was illegal*
"Cool, you just lost your qualified immunity in the lawsuit."
Savage.
The cop had an out. He chose litigation.
apologizing and admitting wrong is two different things. js saying.
@diss-abledgamer5370 You just said, "just saying saying", js.
@@justjay4586js is also short for “just” or “juss” which is slang for “just”. “Js” (meaning just saying) is obviously shorter than “js saying”, but the latter isnt incorrect.
@@diss-abledgamer5370 Apologising is an admission of being wrong.
An apology can be used in court to prove they admitted to being wrong.
Notice as soon as he says you lost your qualified immunity, the other cops shut it down on the spot.
As soon as he saw shit going south, he knew what side he was on.
I saw that, just shows how cops are in cahoots with eachother.
Exactly! The ONLY thing that will keep crooked cops in check is threat of serious (justified) jail time, or serious (justified) personal liability
@@myname_2663This isn't something unique to cops. Nearly every profession will have people defending, supporting, or sticking up for their coworkers. Birds of a feather.
@jkman10 yeah I'd bet you'd do that
Man this kid is 100% going to make a excellent lawyer one day. I hope his college is giving him extra credit for these interactions he's been having with the police.
They should reduce his tuition.
@@elix901why?
@@elix901
They should reduce all tuition but that’s besides the point.
Pretty sure the lawsuit is going to cover a few years.
@@Burn_Slowtwo bad interactions from police. That’ll motivate him to even become better knowing how bad police police
I just hope he has a career based in morality rather than a need to do whatever it takes to get a person off of a charge, no matter what.
I'm sick and tired of them saying we had a call about suspicious people that doesn't mean a damn thing
It does man police in most places they have to so up to Calls for suspicious activity
it is reasonable suspicion in no way probable cause to make an arrest
We had a call is usually a lie
So what police are supposed to do is monitor the situation and ask question. If the person who called wasnt even sure if a crime happened or not the police cant make assumptions unless they have strong non bias reasoning
@@ryanodonnell8515That’s not true at all. Castle Rock v Gomez. Police are not required to show up to protect you, they are required to enforce the law.
I like how he flashed the injuries on his wrist to the body cam. dudes super aware of everything.
I cannot wait for this kid to pass the bar! I hope he goes into civil rights law. But he’ll probably be a high price criminal lawyer that I couldn’t afford.
He will deffenitly have some head rolling
thats a smart move, he was already collecting evidence for his case
He didn't get an apology. He got more copsplaining.
He just wanted the cop to admit he's mistakes
Needs to ask the cop, "Are you sorry you did it, or are you sorry you got caught?" My bet is the latter.
Cops are trained to not apologize because it’s an admission of guilt or misconduct
He tricked both idiot cops
He's got an easy victory coming
I like his strategy
@@captivethoughts1745 I don't think the cop would be sorry for any reason because there are no negative consequences for his actions. He doesn't have to be sorry.
Spending the night in jail and hiring an UBER home = $25
Being on ATA twice and getting an "A" grade both times = PRICELESS
he also will probably get a settlement since the cost of the court hearing is greater than him being payed off. i got 50$ for not fighting my speeding ticket because i wanted the radar gun tested.
@@FedkaSlovanich Wtf? I would appeal. That doesn't sound right.
@@larryg2705 Why would you appeal your own case after a settlement was already reached?
They are going to pay for this kids schooling now 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@FedkaSlovanich lmao how does that work?
"I gotta call the owner to see if it's true."🤦♂️
Yeah. THAT'S the part of the investigation you failed to do before arresting him.🤨
This is the same dude that refused a search of his dorm room for reported alcohol possession. This dudes coming for every cops head
I missed the beginning where ATA explained that, and when I heard Joel say "a call is not reasonable articulable suspicion" it clicked that it was him lol this dude already has signature moves against corruption
Hey he’s pretty much guaranteed a defense lawyer job now though, so there’s that
Living legend
Let's be honest. He will be arrested, charged, and subsequently disbarred after an incident that is conveniently not on video. We all know how this works.
I want to be on his team. Where's he at?
He needs to become a lawyer against police corruption.
And I'm absolutely certain that he'll ever be allowed to practice at all, let alone meaningfully, from his beautiful oceanfront flying pig farm in Northern South Dakota...
@@seand.g423so what's your story?
Biggest difference is that he in fact studies laws not what this mickey mouse cop did in his BS police training.
I guess the police continue to give him motivation to become one
Certainly there is great need....
This cop should have been fired. He knowingly unlawfully arrested this man and impounded his car and given the opportunity to apologise and squash this issue the cop refuses. He’s now going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money.
He is literally no different than any other cop on in this country. They are all like this; dumb, arrogant, and mean.
@@Tijuanabill spot on
Its a total falsehood to say all cops are like this.
But many are
@Tijuanabill
@@colinofay7237
They are all like that period.
Because they do this in front of other officers and they don’t do anything
@@colinofay7237 No, I can prove it, with nothing more than basic logic, that good cops don't exist, and they actually CAN'T exist.
If they mess up, and accidentally hire a good person to be a cop, then rather quickly the cop will witness a bad cop either violating rights, violating policies, or downright breaking the law. When they do, they have a choice: 1. They can report the bad cop, so that justice and fairness can ensue. 2. They can cover up for the bad cop, by not reporting the actions.
If they choose option 1, then they will be retaliated against, bullied, pushed out of the department, or in extreme cases, framed for crimes.
If they choose option 2, then they BECOME a bad cop, in that moment.
Good cops don't exist, because there are no departments that don't make mistakes, and none of those mistakes, ever meet true justice. If good cops existed, then they would run the bad cops out of the departments. But that isn't the culture. Pig culture is pro-pig, not pro-citizen.
Like I always say, "ignorance of the law is no excuse" never applies to the people upholding those laws.
You would think that violating the Constitution would be a serious crime...
Its not a crime at all. What are you talking about???
@@Tijuanabill yeah. That's the point. You would think that it would be. But it's not. If the Constitution is held up in such high regards, then when it's violated the consequences would be severe.
@@Andy-te1mw I mean...fundamentally we have a two court system, for reasons. Civil court is for restoring damages to the victim, financial or otherwise. Criminal court is for punishing the criminal, for what they did to society, by breaking the law.
@@Tijuanabill civil and criminal court aren’t the only courts that play a role in society they just play a huge part
It actually is against the law for a government official to violate a citizen’s constitutional rights.
18 U.S Code 242
Look it up
“My name isn’t going to help your investigation.” Never heard that before. Love it.
He just wants to search his name for warrants. So annoying.
No it just sounds like a way to get out of trouble because he definitely has something on his record
@@TheMandalorianRedeemed Except in all probability he doesn't, because he's a law student. Why are you so angry that you're in all the comments spouting nonsense? Is it a cop thing, or a race thing?
@@TheMandalorianRedeemedwhat makes you so certain?
@@PepeToTheMooon If you don't have warrants why do you care?
I willing to bet that, 90% of the time, theres NEVER a 911 call, the cops just happened to drive by and got "ID HUNGRY".
Bad take
@@baartzy5893 why is it a bad take?
ID horny is what you mean to say
That's my belief. I think cops just make crap up to game the system.
@@michaelmatto8258 No answer, eh? SMH.
“The deputy made a mistake” is a weird way to react to a criminal complaint
Illegal arrest, Illegal search, and just plain stupid cops.
REALLY stupid. Something that training can't fix. He shouldn't be a cop......
Or they simply do not care.
It’s always the Texas cops or from some
Other backwater southern state
last i checked wat they did falls under illegal searches n seizures which also qualifies as a felony that can result in a lawsuit.
So , status quo!!
He said if the cop apologizes he won’t take this any further. The cop comes out and the guy asks is there anything you want to say to me. The Cop said no. Wrong answer pal.
"You're making it bigger than it is" 😂 Copsplaining 101.
To them it's just another day putting good people throught the wringer and to them it's a big deal.
It’s not his fault when homeboys story doesn’t even fucking add up
That's what she said?
@@TheMandalorianRedeemed did you watch the video? He explained the same story at least 6 times lol the cop refused to contact the junk yard to confirm the man’s story. Instead he tried to bully him into giving up his ID for literally 0 reason.
Also, "If you want to go down that route..." A favorite phrase from cops who aren't getting what they want.
How can you enforce the law when you do even know the law??? Make it make sense. 🤷🤦
are you asking or demanding?
"asking"
ok, then no.
"ok, I was actually demanding and don't understand the difference, so you are under arrest."
Quit blaming ignorance when corruption stares you in the face.
he did all that rather than calling the person that owns the property ..he didnt investigate ANYTHING!!! and doesnt know RAS or PROBABLE CAUSE and violated his 1st 4th and 5th amendments!!!
Welcome to America, land of the free.
How do you think the maintain the highest imprisonment rate in the world.
Nononono this guy’s ID would magically explain everything. Of course ask for ID only. No investigation needed. Case closed.
After arrest he just thought it’s a good idea to call the property owner. Qualified immunity suckers.
@supiiischokobaer you know as well as i that the investigation can't continue until he has the ID!
I want Martinez as my lawyer once he’s graduates and passes the bar. This kid is gonna be the new Civil Rights Lawyer one day.
Absolutely ‼️‼️🫶🏻🙌🏼💕
We need more lawyers like him. Lawyers who believe in the importance of our legal rights and put them to the test.
He does seem like he’s studied quite a bit, but overall he needs to mature first, he seems to enjoy creating incidents to bait cops so he can show off on RUclips. If he keeps this up, then one of these days an officer might decide to “fear for their life”.
If by baiting police you mean existing in the us and standing up for your rights @@eriktaylor1225
@@eriktaylor1225if a cops “fears” for his life by not knowing basic laws they have zero right to hold the position
yo when he was screaming "WOOO" in the back of the car I was dyinnggggg laughing
Nauseating when the cop called him 'brother' while simultaneously violating his 'brother's' rights.
I’ve told cops like that “I’m not your fucking brother” they seem hurt by it lol
BROTHER!!!!! BROTHER!!??? I don't remember seeing you at the Thanksgiving table !!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
It is disgusting that the kops call you buddy, pal, brother.... all as a ploy to get us to drop our guard
Cops pretend to be your friend when they are in fact not your friend
Manipulation tactics.
Seeing someone who works in law enforcement, not knowing basic law, never ceases to amaze me.
You're amazed at every cop you see? Buddy get used to it. Ain't a cop in America that knows the law
what can you expect from people with less training than a cosmetologist.
@@darkhoboI wouldn’t say there isn’t a single one. Surely there are aspiring attorneys out there that work in law enforcement. My FIL was one. I also worked as a CO for a while and at a PD for an even shorter while. Definitely not the line of work for me. But, during my training, one of the first things we went over was constitutional rights. The very first thing we learned was that “You cannot trespass the eyes”. I can’t imagine no other academy’s are teaching this, but the one I went to. It’s very disheartening, because I’m not so naive to think we don’t need peace keepers. Every civilized society needs people of sounds mind and integrity to protect those who can’t/ won’t protect themselves. I’m also not a bootlicker and believe everything a person tells me just because they’re a police officer. I’ve seen my fair share of wrongdoing during the 2.5 years in the profession. The thin blue line is real. But, in a way, I kinda understand why it’s real. Those guys and gals, good or bad, see s*** on a daily basis that change them over time. Some will never live a normal life. Could you imagine working in a big city where everyday you see overdoses (body has s*** and p*** all over it), dead children and babies, shootings, stabbings, domestic abuse… the list goes on and on…It’s not normal for someone to witness these things on a normal basis. On the other hand, I do believe we should vet our officers to the highest degree reasonable and make mandatory constitutional and de-escalation trainings every year.. along with a few others. But the most important should be the prerequisites required to get into the profession. The polygraph I took was a joke. An idiot could have passed it. A person who holds the authority to take freedom away from another should be held to the highest standard. No exceptions. And should lead by example. If caught doing something malicious or nefarious, the officer should be black listed, never allowed to work in the profession again, and possibly charged (depending on the violation, of course). Most importantly, it should be mandatory to at least have an associated degree in criminal justice to even be considered. Why is it that the department of natural resources requires a degree in most states, when police departments likely do not? Shouldn’t it be the other way around ? At the end of the day, I hate a dirty f****** pig, but I’m a reasonable person and can’t just label them all bad because of the actions of a few rogue officers. Well… maybe more than a few… a lot of rouge officer, but that would be the same as saying all black people are criminals because 30% of crimes are committed by 15% of the population. It simply isn’t true.
Lol why is the law treated so poorly? You can instantly ruin someone’s life by improper procedures. Officers do this all the time & nothing happens to them. It should be treated like the medical profession & get stripped of their badge & practice.
@@PointlesspeoplePosseI agree
Remove ALL qualified immunity. Make cops get their own liability insurance.. Only then will there be EQUAL justice.
I agree now in my opinion I think qualified immunity was created cause they know they hire crooked people and they know potential lawsuits are going to happen
Every other profession has to get.
That would also weed out bad cops. Insurance companies don’t play around with liabilities
No, the cops would all quit their jobs and street justice would prevail. And it's hard to imagine that would be a better scenario for most citizens.
@@davidinwashington😂😂😂🤡
Never underestimate the cops ability to make your bad day even worse.
I was absolutely buzzing when he asked the cop to apologize and the cop could not let his pride and ego go. 😅
Seriously all the cop had to do is say sorry.
. The kid also has an ego. It goes both ways. Why threaten with a lawsuit. Just do it if you are gonna do it. Nothing was gonna make it right. He unlawfully arrested him and that’s that.
@@lord-marroking1315 giving someone the opportunity to apologize and make things right before legal action is a very fair response.
@@lord-marroking1315well he had a right to have that ego his rights got trampled on
@@Jeremy-wp4yh nah I don’t think it is. wtf is a sorry gonna do. If he’s gonna take legal action he should just do that and not just say he is going to.
The Deputy lied to the face of his Supervisor. For that, his contempt, his ignorance of the Law, mocking of the student etc he deserves to go. Such an ignorant arrogant cop . Very dangerous
Not only did they unlawfully search his car. They never verified that it was even his car to begin with!
Agreed! They were going the way of essentially saying he was breaking into it, and didn't seem to believe it was his. Then when it came to towing it and searching it, then it was no problem. Unbelievable
They did that with my brothers stereo when it was stolen. The fact that it was a very rare German brand was enough in court to prove it was his & stolen, but when he tried to get it back after the court case, all of a sudden he didn’t have enough evidence that the stereo was his (even though it had his bands CD in it). It supposedly went to auction, but they wouldn’t even tell him the auction day for him to go buy it back.
Yes and if just purchased there’s no way it was done by calling in upon approach, as there’s no way ownership had transferred or title put in his name yet!
This STUDENT is telling the POLICE OFFICERS the law. That’s EMBARRASSING. Police training needs to change.
The cop ego is over the top.he think he had all the right to do what he want.
Maybe the Cartel pays him some money every month and they gave him free reign. We just don't know.
Of course they do, they are backed by a certain party no matter what they do.
Martinez was being very nice to the cop, explaining why he was there, he wasn't auditing, he wasn't being anti-police. All he did was assert his right in the tiny bit and boom straight to jail, illegally searched his car, impounded it, put him in a cage and left him in torture cuffs while in the cage as if he was there for a violent crime. People still argue that we are not in a police state.
Yes, you are on point......we have evolved into a police state, because citizens have allowed cops to behave as they wish without accountability.....overdue for change.....
What are torture cuffs?
“Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.”
― Albert Einstein
He would know about hiding truth. Nobody knew about his daughter Lieserl until decades after his death.
ironic comment. "Einstein said it, so it must be true!"
It’s not really blind belief if there’s plenty of reason to believe that Einstein is wise (and there is) lmao, not super ironic imo
@@SnakeSalmon8izback POLICE DO NOT PROTECT TAXPAYERS! (Castle Rock vs Gonzales 545 U.S. 748 (2005) (Police protect the state not its citizens!)
Supreme court ruled the police "Serve and Protect" the state and "NOT ITS CITIZENS".
Police heroically OPPRESS and WAR against TAXPAYERS for PROFIT converting taxpayers into welfare recipients. Fairy-tale heroes in BLUE are the #1 "Most Despised TAX Collecting TYRANTS" in the Nation! NO POLICE encounter ever benefits the taxpayer!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
@SnakeSalmon8izback true, lol but id trust him considering his German history lmao, blind trust sure kills a lot
If cops told the truth: "Hey brotha, I got called out here because someone seen someone else... I don't know what I'm doing or who I'm looking for so go ahead and put your hands behind your back, I'll identify you back at the station when you're locked up and you'll get money that comes to the city through taxes. Me? I'm going to try and blame you for me not caring enough to learn how to do my job properly and I'll probably get a few days off this time. Thanks for understanding and not defending yourself physically."
Is this the kid suspected of having beer in his room? You would think every cop in town would know him by now.
That’s why they harass him
@@Burn_Slow
Doubtful. That was NMU campus cops. This is in TX. I doubt they’re comparing notes and joining forces against him.
Is that who he is? That was so cool
@@madtabby66 it is def him. wouldnt be surprised if he lost his keys on purpose after the traction from his dorm video. probably wont be the last time we see an audit involved with him. good for him
@@madtabby66NMSU
In less then a year Joel got two opportunities to shame the pigs and get big money from it. Mad legend
Paid for his college studies probably…..
@jessie6600 maybe, not yet?
@@youwebzdude, he stood up to cops in the US _and_ he was correct. _what_ "college studies"?
@@seand.g423hes a law student
This kid is a true patriot and one of the few people who make a great impact in our country to educate law enforcement that they’re not the judge, jury and executioner. He exercises respect, and intelligence in a way that I think will be the only way to truly make change in this country’s failed policing system.
I can’t believe he has to explain the law to the supervisor!!
Martinez told the officer he'd drop it if he gave him an apology, and the cop didn't, unbelievable! Martinez body language shows it all in the end. Arms behing his back, body open, unafraid. The officer has his hands in front being defensive and protective.
Why do cops think you're legally required to help them with their investigation, just because someone called and complained on him. They should require a bachelors degree in Criminal Justice to be a cop... not just a 90 hour course.
It’s not 90 hours. It’s closer to 1000 hours. No joke.
@@Sirianot134 Not at all departments. Baltimore, where I live, does a 90 hour class within its Academy training program called "Stops, Searches and Arrests".
You're damn right the officers get an F
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 you’re so wrong. It’s over 800. I’m an LEO I would know
@@anon7219 anon is implying it takes 90 hours for the whole entire academy completion. Not just the courses related to arrests
Not only is this young man obviously knowledgeable, he kept his cool and was proffesional even when illegally arrested.
He was thinking of what he was going to do with the lawsuit money
Ask him
I hope this law student realizes that even though he was let go, the arrest is still an arrest record. He needs to fill out a form that entitles him to have this arrest record removed from all databases. Otherwise, he will show up as being arrested even though there was never any conviction.
I have a feeling he's probably well aware of that.
Read your post again you answered your own question. He is a what now? A LAW student, pretty sure based on this interaction he has a good understanding of what his rights are and what is required of him.
His demeanor was excellent throughout the entire illegal arrest. He was very composed, didn’t raise his voice, and spoke truth.
Some times some cops breaking the law and they knew it, and still continue . they should be charge for it. Who agrees?
There just shouldn't be any form of qualified immunity. Cops should be fully accountable for following the law, and their actions when they break the law like any other person.
"Should". One of the most worthless words in the English language.
But, I agree with your sentiments.
The guy literally put any investigation to rest within 10 seconds.
Illegally arrest him, then illegaly seach his vehicle.
The fact that there was a locksmith there leaned towards his story being truthful. It was clear that junkyard didn't call or he would have said that. So it was some random Karen calling about a "suspicious person." So he wasn't even investigating a crime.
It is so satisfying to watch his face when someone holds him accountable for breaking the law
"You're making this bigger than it is" 😂😂😂 says the guy who totally escalated it the situation and arrest a guy for no reason at all.
But....but....they got a call. That's an arrestable offense 😅
Gaslighting. It's all your fault.
Can you imagine the founders hearing that "We got a call" completely nullifies the entire constitution and all of our rights until the cops' curiosity is satisfied, they grow tired of tormenting us, or until their hurt feelings are soothed?
I say, out loud, "Congratulations" every time the blurt that especially stupid line. What do you want, a medal?
The Founders would have rebelled already!!!
They turned Tyrant before the ink was dry on the Constitution. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
That's one of the reasons so many migrated to the lands in and west of the Appalachians after the Revolutionary War. They sought to get away from central government and experience real Liberty for themselves and their families. Their descendants still think that way to this day.
*”Wtf is a call?”*
Wrong policing. This cop need more training of the laws,and some of them should be charges for breaking the law.and for false arrests. Who agrees?.
I would guess everyone
No, they need to be send to jail for life. They broke the law and violated someone's rights when they swore to protect and serve.
No he just need to be fired and do a few days in jail
No they get more than enough training to understand the laws
They need be held accountable for their actions of breaking the laws
He knows the law. He just gets away with this so much, he sees no reason to stop doing this
Man… I’m sitting here like a proud parent.. like he’s one of my boys. Young man… you are a beautiful soul!
Love it at 20:00 that the officer's knew the law student flat out said he lost qualified immunity that he knew he was toast. Even the supervisor knew it
Yeah, which is why when supervisor told the officer/deputy to go, it was very sketchy, especially with improper complaint form filling. basically saying "Yeah I'll file it later..making it look not as bad and missing some details since you won't be here"
Yeah, that's when they fully realized he wasn't fucking around.
Yeah there was an audible but silent "oh fck, okay"
this is the same kid they messed up and demanded his ID.. looks like a pattern of harassment
And profiling
I thought I recognized him, it was for booze in his dorm room, he made them look stupid then too.😂
Different states though. The booze thing was in NM, this is in TX.
@@madtabby66 True. The cops gave him a break in NM.
@@jeffrielley920 Gave him a break? 😂
Requirements to be a lawyer: 7+ years of advanced training of the law and its statutes, ending with an incredibly difficult exam before one is allowed to practice legally.
Requirements to be a police officer: A working pulse and a handcuff fetish.
😂😂😂
And an ID addiction 😂
Jordan v New London. Required to be lower IQ
But cops have an unstoppable ego that denies all facts and logic
And a room temperature (in C) IQ.
He knew the law in texas, the second the officer informs him he is under arrest, he attempted to comply as he was now required. Can you really give the supervisor an A- when all of his officers involved failed so miserably?
I think Joel is my favorite reoccurring character on your show, this guy is going places and knows the law better than most of our countries police force. Keep up the good work.
Okay so he is the guy at the college dorm?
@@rdavis3618yep
@@rdavis3618yeah😂
lol I didn't even catch that this was the same guy from the dorm room vid! Great kid
@@greenockscatman he’s def got a good head on his shoulders
I'd have to give the supervisor a lower rank just based on how quickly he jumped into the conversation as soon as he heard the deputy may lose qualified immunity. Like he seriously was like "uh oh let's stop this here. Can't have you facing consequences for your actions now can we?"
Truee, @AuditTheAudit also gets an F for not giving the supervisor an F. Who was completely on his police departments side even though he knew the story.
@@Zorklis- I understand why he didn't give him an "F". This supervisor is one of the FEW who actually unarrested him and gave him back his car. Most don't. MOST have to go to trial. HOWEVER, I certainly wouldn't give him an A-. I could understand a B minus or C.
@@wvrjl One of the FEW? He was the only one and even then he did it because he knew his department did not follow the law so he tried to cover it by doing some very sketchy things other comments have pointed out.
@@wvrjlAuditTheAudit gets an F for giving Mr. Martinez anything other than an A+
This is literally Turner vs Driver playing out in front of our eyes. This cop has just given this kid an air tight lawsuit. The state of Texas has just paid for this young man's law degree.
After attorneys fees, he will probably end up with a 2k dollars.
Thats still money @@dentalcare1
Yeah, not a lot of injury there.
Sure Did!!...
@@dentalcare1dude idk who your getting your information from but he can represent himself..it’s a federal lawsuit
Mr. Martinez now has his law school tuition and books paid for, courtesy of the state of Texas.
Money well spent
Sadly, as every lawyer or parasite into justice he will be "invited" to join a "lodge", other way, no buisness, in my country its like that, and in your country the FM doesnt even hide haha
His first case occurred in New Mexico.
The right to remain silent doesn’t mean he must remain silent. He chose to continuously try defuse the situation by explaining what the officers were doing wrong. They chose to ignore the laws and advice from a law student.
Because there is absolutely no way in hell ANY CIVILIAN could possibly be smarter then a cop that only had a couple months of training, no way, not possible. Cops are the smartest, most honest, hardest working upstanding humans on the face of this earth and honestly we the people should bow to them 😂. How pathetic, so many cops like these cops out there with absolutely no soul, no brains, but doesn’t matter this cop won’t be punished and tax payers will pay the bill while the moron cop keeps doing same bs and they wonder where the hate comes from and why the people are taking law into their own hands
I’m only a few minutes in but geez that cop is DESPERATE for this guys ID like he needs donuts. He’s that thirsty to look up his info for warrants?
That’s 99% of cops. Quotas on tickets and run everyone’s name. This is just blatant misuse of power and he tried to scare him into giving him his information. When we all know Joel was doing nothing wrong and never had to give up his ID.
It's not about the ID, It's about the heirarchy of power for them. They are trained to literally never back down or retreat from any situation they've escalated.
Cops want ID more than a crackhead wants crack.
3 things,
1-Its a power move.
2-check for warrants and known history
3-have it record that he stopped you for suspicion
and they will use that to mess with you more the next time you are stopped hence "known history".
@@acarroll6842 "They are trained to literally never back down"
As someone who's observed law enforcement training, you are on point.
Shout out to that young man. He stood up to stupidity and won in the end.
Man arrested by cops: "you lost your qualified immunity"
Cop who broke the law: "You gone to far. Thing are getting crazy"
😂
Not only is this young man in school! HE IS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION!!! Would love to see an update on how far this eventual Lawyer will go! God speed😊
He only wanted him to apologize so he can show admission of guilt when in court. He was playing chess they were playing checkers.
What court?
@@everythingpony”court”, as in if he files a lawsuit against the officer and takes him to court for violating his rights.
@@everythingpony- When he sues for violation of various rights, such as the 4th Amendment when he demanded ID and searched his car, the violation of his right to freedom of movement, when he was arrested. Basically, they kidnapped him and stole his car.
Knowledge is power. Good job.
My favorite part is where the officer says that he has to "call the owner to see if it's true" after he arrested the student anyway.
When you swear to uphold the constitution then violate those rights. You should immediately go to prison for 2 years and never be allowed to be work as a government employee
The supervisor admitting on video that the arrest was unlawful was honestly such a refreshing change of pace (and great for Mr. Martinez’s case lol)
The Supervisor should be demoted for supporting a Kidnapping/ crime !😊
The thing is that they do know the law and don't care because most people don't follow up
I love how cops say “it’s up to you” when it’s about complaining or litigating.
And as soon as he told the other officer he lost his qualified immunity, the supervisor shuts down the conversation. PD is a gang
That's my favorite thing I've learned while researching police stuff for writing assignments. They honestly care more about the department than anything. They prioritize rewarding officers for being loyal to the PD rather than holding up the law to the best of their ability. It's why internal reviews are such a joke. Cause 9 times outta 10 the reviewing officer won't speak out on any findings unless it is so bad that it's impossible to cover up
Exactly! That's why ATA deserves dislikes for saying the supervisor was a breath of fresh air because he "was willing to admit to his deputies mistakes"... only because he didn't want litigation, but once that entered into the conversation again he shut down the lawful citizen and was on his officers side and told them to go.
It is classic domestic abuser logic.
@@Zorklis- At that point it doesn’t matter because they already got a confession. That cop would have lost his qualified immunity had Mr. Martinez decided to file a lawsuit against him.
The supervisor stepping in and releasing this young man.. didn't see that one coming. Half the time it is the supervisors doing this crap and on top of that, how often do we see prosecutors refusing to drop the charges. Its amazing how if ONE person in the chain says "hey, thats not right" it saves someone from the stress, monitary concerns, and dealing with months or years of the legal process. This is very eye opening, if its this easy to fix a "mistake" then why are so many made and not caught..
He was not doing g the right thing he was trying to CYA
I was thinking the same thing. I’m super surprised the supervisor even let Joel speak! That’s normally unheard of
@@David-bf6bzespecially when his ass damn near had a heart attack at the mention of qualified immunity. The joy I felt hearing the panic in that supervisors voice was immense.
"you lost your qualified immunity, right now"
cop trying to downplay the abuse of power by his coworker: "whoa whoa whoa"
Well, that and he knows that that is literally _never_ gonna happen...
Edit: least not in _that_ PD...
That locksmith just wants to get paid and bro is arresting the man that's supposed to pay him😭
Bro got the cop to admit he was wrong on camera. Lawyer's gonna tear him up😂
Guitly until proven innocent. Love the banana republic we now live in. Its so out of control. And officer I'm not your dang brother, stop callibg me that
Not what a banana republic is
A banana Republic is a country which is de facto ruled by one or more corporations.
@@SeaCowsBeatLobsters
Ah denial. Everything is great! The government loves you! Cops are your friends! Have fun! 😅
What's worse this tyrants ego or lack of education of the law and our rights?
Thing is these things are equally important and equally a MASSIVE problem throughout the entire system.
Judges, prosequtors, and all LEOs. Too many have egos you need to touch in the right places for even the possibility of fair treatment. And thats only if you look "right" according to them: dress, race, attitude, etc.
We need to stop choosing between two bad options, and understand that both options are bad and we need a new one(s).
The combination of the two.
Reminds me of the saying “if cops were smart and knew the law, then they’d be lawyers not cops”
End qualified immunity!
End million dollar lawsuits!
@@Tijuanabill wrong. Monell claims would still exist without QI.
@@firemedic2442 Incorrect. QI is the very thing that permits you to to sue the employer, for the actions of the employee. If a Walmart checker commits a crime against you, you can't sue Walmart for that, without proving they were somehow negligible in their management of the employee. Without QI, the same will be true of police departments. You can't win a lawsuit for negligence against the employer, when you already won the case against the employee, without additional misconduct by them, beyond the actions of the employee. These are facts. This is how the law works. It doesn't really matter what your opinion is, or mine.
@@Tijuanabillhaving lawsuits be against the individual officers instead of the department, would do a lot more to persuade individual officers to follow the law and not trample on peoples rights.
As satisfying as it is for a victim of police violence to recieve millions, that money ultimately comes from the taxpayer and the officer never learns a lesson.
Preventing cases of police misconduct is more important than making money off of them. And the only way to prevent them is by getting rid of QI
@@Melaheidi No it wouldn't. Does prison deter murder? If prison doesn't deter murder, then how does having bad credit for exactly 7 years, deter rights violations? You know the cops will immediately file bankruptcy, and never pay a dime, right? Even if they don't, cops don't have millions of dollars.
No the deterrent you want, is municipalities going broke over lawsuits, and the public electing a new mayor who puts the cops on a leash.
Civil courts are for restitution. Criminal courts are for punishment. We need to make these things a crime, and not just sue cops for 11 cents, or whatever you can collect before they file BK, on the same day as the judgment. They won't even leave the courthouse to file BK.
SOMEBODY BUY THAT YOUNG LAW STUDENT A COLD BEER!!! He's earned it! He stayed utterly cool, calm and collected under rather trying circumstances. I'm impressed!
Be careful, last time he had a beer the cops tried to unlawfully search his dorm!
He dealt with that one just as well as this one, he's gunna be a great lawyer
He is going to get paid. I would too.
That cop never shut up for a second. Ego trip.
No qualified immunity.. ever should be allowed
"Now you're making this bigger than it is" the cop says as he REFUSES to let the issue go, think of resolving the situation quickly and call the property manager as the next step of his investigation -- then gaslight, gaslight and gaslight some more "I'm being nice!" he says as he makes an arrest that he KNOWS wasn't necessary knowing there were more avenues to proceeding with the investigation
- There is my ID
- No, you already failed to ID. You are under arrest.
Lawsuit
When that happens the city pays, the residents' taxes go up to cover it and they never go down once it's covered. The officer gets to keep his job and probably gets some paid time off. Tell me again how that's a good thing?
@@LeCheeZy that's why qualified immunity should END NOW. TAKE IT OUT OF COPS BUDGET AND PENSION AND SEE HOW QUICK THE BS STOPS
"Nah, I'm cool, I just wanna exercise my rights."
"Oh so you wanna take it further? That what you wanna do? You wanna escalate? Put your hands behind your back."
I’ve seen videos where cops use the term “constitutionalist” like a swear word
I’m proud of this dude for sticking up for our rights? Hopefully he sued. It’s sad that it takes a law student to know his rights, hopefully more citizens know and stand up for our rights by watching videos like this.