THE OFFICER THAT CHALLENGED THE LEGALITY OF THE "DETAINMENT OR ARREST", NEEDS TO BE COMMENDED! HE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GOOD OFFICER!!! THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND HUMANITY!
@@rafwhy9888 so police can detain or arrest you based off of someone's word? So, you know how to properly represent yourself in court, when you don't have the funds at the time? Listen, I agree justice that is apparent needs to occur so no additional harm is done, but the reasons these Laws exist is to help those that are innocent from being thrown under the bus from bias, misunderstanding, and or rushing it.
It really just speaks volume about the confidence of both coworkers then. Can the coworker who witnessed the issue at large able to stand for what is right, and challenge the possible fact that he/she may lose a relationship with the person in question. On the otherhand, the coworker who is in the wrong is tested by their ego, as well as their confidence to not hate the opposing opposition rather than deluding themselves that they are right. Regardless of personal reasons. In a twisted way, people who ignore their families/friends bad behavior are not really faithful to them; but rather want to preserve their own status, or image within the relationship.
The original officer was probationary, the "good" officer is wearing pin that indicates he is likely involved with the probie in "ghost" training. If you listen, it is training toned and the original officer both accepts TO overriding his decision and seeks guidance on how to move forward from this point. As both a probationary officer and FTO, I had many similar discussions. Why are you doing that? What is your PC? And the best of all time: Freaking probie out and making them correctly give their exact location, crucial training for situational awareness. FTO did a stellar job, probie learned, everybody went home. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner !!!
The really stupid thing here: The kid WANTS to help the investigation in every way possible - getting the bill of sale, showing the real criminal's facebook profile... and the officer is keeping him handcuffed so he can't do any of it. The officer was basically interfering with the investigation.
Was is because he genuinely cared about the detainee or to protect his buddy's ass from getting a complaint and lawsuit? Edit: It's 2021 so I need to add or was it the fact he knew he was going to he called a racist?
Well the reason they do that shit is because the cop, himself, can't be held liable. The "costly mistake" is costly for the tax payers who have done nothing wrong not the cops
That cop who tells him flat out: "As a kid I've had dirt bikes 4 wheelers I never ran the vin until I became a cop" is so refreshing a cop putting himself in that kids place was awesome.
@@easyglistening exactly he saw himself in that kid and knew there's no possible way he could've known the bike was stolen if he had a bill of sale. That gave me hope for our law enforcement officers
That’s the thing even on cars most people don’t know what the vin number is or where it is I only know cause I had to use to get a new log book for my car.
Recently the curriculum would probably be taught by a resource officer who has zero idea what is actually right. Government always finds a way to protect the government.
It's also important to call out bad citizens being detained by cops, because their actions or inaction should also be taken into account. This kid however did an amazing job staying calm and respectable rather than resisting arrest, getting angry and acting erratic, only for communities to blame the cop instead of the decisions of the detained. We've watered down the concept of personal responsibility on all sides.
I kind of think it's more important to call out bad cops, because the vast majority of cops are good, and just doing their jobs and going home. Maybe in today's environment they're equally important, with all the morons trying to reduce their funding.
@@thepompafilliannetwork I was asking who we is because I wasn't sure if you were speaking for a group😂😂 I didn't realize asking a question was being "in a hurry to contend with my own". Come to think of it, asking questions is a great way to grow, and also is indicative of an open mind. Edit for stupid auto wrong.
The officer who understand the situation at hand, truly is a great human being. He puts himself in someone else’s position and does a great job explaining to the officer in training how he would feel. Instead of yelling at him, he calms the situation and ends the confrontation. A real 21st century officer.
I was like, “Is this cop new?” Then they showed him and I was like “Yeah, he looks young and has nothing on his uniform.” Turns out he’s still in training. Why is he alone without a CO? I hope this teaches him a long lasting lesson about being a better cop.
He is not alone. There are always two officers on scene. You can see one in the frame and the other is wearing the body camera that is recording the whole thing. The second officer is likely his field trainer and is letting him take the situation to where he wants to go. When it starts to go in the wrong direction he steps in to guide him.
@Corwin719 you don't believe that criminals use children as shield, don't you? Live a little and you start to see many things. Light that small light in your brain to start seeing.
I give the kid an A++. A 14 year old who's making money by fixing and selling dirt bikes, instead of those who hang around doing nothing, and was calm during this whole ordeal, earns a great deal of respect.
@donald johnson But he isn't running a mechanics shop. He's repairing vehicles he owns and then selling those vehicles. That is legal in most cities. Cities are concerned about things like high foot & vehicle traffic, parking, pollution, and lots of unsightly cars parked in a front yard. But his business doesn't generate any of those things. He is engaged in a low volume business and he can repair the dirt bikes in his (parent's) garrage. His business doesn't negatively impact his neighbors.
@donald johnson Except that he's not running a mechanic's shop. He's fixing the bikes he technically owns and then resell them afterwards. If that's illegal, jail would be full with carflippers and people who DIY their vehicles.
I really like how that confronting officer did that confrontation. He basically without actually saying it that the rookie was about to make a huge mistake and allowed the rookie to undo his decision before things got completely out of hand. Honestly A++ for that guy.
The officer was referring to the fact that once a suspect is detained, as this kid was, they have to be read their rights - including the right to remain silent. The officer was not being derogatory, he just was informing the other officer that he had not asked any questions, but the kid was talking anyways.
See the things about this is since he’s 14 he probably has no experience with cops no has his parents told him anything about it so he probably heard about New so his first reaction would just comply
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here. He didn’t mean it in the way you interpreted it. It was meant as the kid continued to give him “evidence” even though they were trying to build a case against him. It’s common to use this phrase after a suspect is ignorant to the fact that they need not say anything at all to the police.
As soon as he said he can get his bill of sale it felt so obvious that the kid bought the bike from the guy who had stolen it and yet somehow only one officer understood that
The cop was determined to get him in the SYSTEM. This video dosen't show all, watch the 2 hour video you will see how hellbent that 1st cop was. I wish this video showed the cop giving the child a body search not a pat down and taking things out his pockets. I really hope that community is keeping an eye on that cop...
You can forge a bill of sale and it supports your claim that you didn't know it was stolen. Kid deserves the benefit of the doubt but I would be very suspicious if this happened again.
Also him having multiple bill of sales means he's almost certainly a flipper who buys things and sells them on for a profit, a perfectly legitimate business practice and I hope that this situation won't deter him from following that and being a legitimate businessman in the future.
That was some seriously impressive diplomacy on display by the second officer talking the arresting officer down and into making the right decision, not only for the poor kid but also their own career.
This teenager behaved like a man of honor, defending his name. He was courteous, respectful even in face of an arrest happy cop. Well done, young man and I wish you well!
When you’re innocent, it would be best to temporarily face the arrest until that cop is proven wrong. That teenager even sounds like that he have the evidence to prove his innocence.
I doubt that'll ever happen because they don't want you to know the law and this is why all the Civics classes I had when I was a kid have been taken out of the school system.
My high school had a class called "Street Law," which was pretty much what it sounds like. One of THE most valuable classes I took! It was an elective, though.
I don't think he meant running his mouth like in a disrespectful way. I'm almost certain he meant as in giving out more information than legally required to.
That is cop slang. The cop is a ding-dong, but he didn't mean, "The kid as been disrespectful"; "Running your mouth" in cop slang, means the person has been saying things with out being directly questioned by the officer, which makes it hear-say, but could still be admissible to the court. Anything you say, can and will be used against you, but it carries more weight if it was in response to a direct question form the officer. The officer heard it, when the kids Father asked the kid, and before the kid was mirandized. Now, see how long the comment was to describe that concept, that is why they use slang for it.
@@doorgoo the fact that the kid said he had a bill of sale and then a chat log with the seller and the officer didnt go oh snap slam dunk open shut case let me get copies and we'll head on over to his place and investigate blows my mind
the officer meant that the kid was consensually giving them information that he was protected to not give under the 4th amendment. He didn't mean he was running his mouth in a bad way
"he's been running his mouth." so by answering your questions he's running his mouth. he already had his mind made up that this kid was a criminal. prejudice at its best. im glad the other cop stepped up. now go find the dude that stole the bike.
It's like when your parents ask why you are talking back to them, and they were just literally asking you questions and then yell at you for not answering. Mix signals.
I think he realised he messed up and rather than simply fixing his mistake he tried to explain it away. He couldn't admit he was wrong so he was trying to make himself look better. Edit: Calling for training is always a great outcome rather than protests, riots, etc. Good on the kid's family.
@@tybahza5643 You can hear him say "i didn't ask any questions, he's been running his mouth", meaning that the kid was defending himself from something which there is still no proof of that he did, it had nothing to do with manners or how the officer felt, rather that he's bringing suspicion on himself
Running his mouth doesn’t mean “talking shit”, running his mouth means spilling the beans, letting the cat out of the bag, regarding the guy he bought the bike off of. Nothing to do with being disrespectful :S
@@Duros360 here in America… that’s considered disrespectful. It’s manipulative. Of course he’s gonna “spill the beans” he’s DEFENDING himself. Think before you speak.
@@chellyfancypants Lol, read other comments on here before you make blanket statments. About 3 comment chains down (Shaky Cam one) there are people talking about cop slang, and jargon phrases. Think before you make exclusive blanket statments
@@chellyfancypants yea @Duros360 is correct several other comment threads explaining this. It's not disrespect he's referring to so its kind of silly you're being a dick when you're not fully comprehending.
@thejaylen1777 I would agree. That cop got my respect big time. He handled that absolutely perfectly. I don't think there are many other cops in the world that would be able to fix that situation, that smoothly, so reasonably and professionally.
That critical officer should be promoted. He has the right mindset about police conduct. We need officers like him to be teaching and training future officers. Bravo!
I don't want this to be taken the wrong way but I don't necessarily agree that this warrants a promotion. I say that for the following reasons: 1) while absolutely correct and following PROPER, established police procedure, this officer was merely doing EXACTLY what ALL officers are supposed to do in the given situation. He wasn't getting ahead of himself and allowing the fact that stolen property was there in possession of the defendant, a minor, to cloud his judgment as to whether said defendant had in fact committed any crime whatsoever. 2) the responding officer was admitted to be in training and the critical officer seemed to be walking him through proper mindset, actions, and chain of custody. In other words, doing what you are supposed to do for people who are training "on the job." 3) Lastly, while as stated in point #1, it is a great example of an officer doing the right thing, it is merely a case of an officer doing EXACTLY what ALL officers are supposed to do. What I got most out of this is the need for much more rigorous and thorough training for ALL officers in practical policing with the public and all other facets of police work involving establishment of crimes, what warrants an arrest, and proper procedure and chain of actions during all aspects just mentioned. Have a great day everyone, and remember, I'm commending the officer for doing the right thing I just think it points to so many problems that this is seen as extraordinary or above and beyond the normal call of duty.
@@chrisgibson2779 I get the cynicism in today's political and social climate. The news will never report anything encouraging or good done by officers under these media boss regimes. Fortunately that's not the reality. Good cops actually outweigh bad ones by 100s to 1 or more it's just never reported that way(and I'm not some huge police fan FYI, just facts). Unfortunately, a few very bad examples are used to paint an entire swath of millions of individual people doing a very hard job as all corrupt, power hungry murderers. Thankfully this isn't even close to reality and to portray it as such is for headlines, clicks and selling ads and making millions off of lies. I hope we can get back to a place in the middle where we punish ANYONE, including cops, who do bad or kill or act with corruption and impunity, and where we praise people who do the right thing and go out of their way to help others. Having everyone think so polarized is further dividing our country, not bringing anyone together. Sad to see.
@@TheShadowPhantom1 no, it isn't, taking into consideration they guy in the comment implied the police officer was saying he was being uncooperative and was being disrespectful
@@darthnox7958 Regardless of the meaning of the idiom “running his mouth”, the cop was clearly trying fabricate an excuse to justify his wrongful actions. And the comment is correct, the boy was being cooperative and respectful.
I love how that other cop completely broke this down, educated that cop, and cleaned up this mistake. Give that guy a raise and a promotion. Especially after seeing that young cop trying to come up with a reason to arrest an innocent kid.
Yes, I agree. However, the initial officer is an example we see too often. Even after he was proven to have made a mistake, he kept on trying to find a reason to arrest the kid.
@@SOLIDESsnake1 funny thing is that if your iq/gep (i forget which one they apply) is to high they won't hire you. Meaning that they deliberately hire people who aren't to keen on thinking about orders they're given by their superiors and instead just doing what they're told.
@@Monster_Cuck there was a court case back in 2017 or 2018 (I think) where a guy was suing the local pd (I don't know which county it was for as its been awhile) because they refused his application on the basis of him having a high gep. The case was thrown out as the pd responded with they do the same to all their applicants and more or less say "you're to smart to be working for us". If I find the case I'll post it but for now I sleep, or you can Google it as I'm pretty sure it was on the news at one point.
Mr ziggler gets an A+. He remained calm, gave the cops all the information he knew, tried his best to let the cops know who he bought it from and was willing to show the bill of sales.
@@johnathanjakesjr775 so gullible. Once they have access to your phone for evidence, they can legally "accidently" stumble upon other evidences for other offences
I'll give the kid an A+. Not a lot of adults would do their "due diligence" when purchasing a vehicle like this. The fact that he did and remained calm while proving such under duress is a testament to him as a citizen.
Smart kid and good parenting are the reason they remained calm. Good for the senior officer for pointing out the juniors mess up. Under 18, kid isn't going anywhere anyhow. It's stolen property not manslaughter.
@@vovobillinbrazil It's also not a crime in this case as they bought it in good faith and luckily, had the bill of sale. Even a scribbled (But legible) note is enough if it's signed.
@@VadoVoodoo It is not a crime at all. He is actually the victim of a crime here (they lose the bike and do not get their cash back). That is what makes the actions of the first officer even worse.
@@zelandakhniteblade5436 Agreed. But then again, the kid was black, so who needs joined-up reasoning when you can go direct to the target of your particular liking eh? :)
This was refreshing. This was a good cop, he knew the law, he knew this didn’t feel right to him and he immediately did something about it while still trying to make it a teachable lesson for the cop who was trying to arrest this kid.
@@ClarityDetermination ive seen this exact scenario play out in an all white area more than once. noone was hurt, threatened, the kid was completely compliant, other than the parents tryin to twist the narrative this was just a rookie reacting to a kid running away from a 'crime scene' and just doin rookie stuff. he wasnt aggressive, he just misunderstood the law. as soon as the experienced officer arrived, the system worked here. doesnt qualify as 'terrible'
@@1dle1ndustries well then I think you do not have a clue what goes through the mind and body of, especially, a well educated black male. They have had the "talk" about the fear of death - walking while black. Being a minority number in the US and yet way higher percentage killed or arrested with a beating. If you don't think that cop, showing or pretending he didn't even know about the history and environment of violence against black men, then he did more psychological damage to that man than many could have inflicted over a lifetime. You can't even compare the fear level and mindset of young white men to young black men.
@@1dle1ndustries So when I restrain, and imprison someone within my vehicle because I believe the law allows me. It's okay? No. Just because it didn't end badly doesn't make it okay.
@@1dle1ndustries so what about all of the times "the system" doesn't work all because the cop "misunderstood the law" (which is bullshit considering that is the basis on which that cop's entire job stands upon)?
Honestly the kid gets a solid A+ as well. Considering his lack of life experience, he did everything a reasonable, calm person should have to prove his innocence.
Absolutely. That kid was put in a really tough and unnecessarily hostile situation. He kept calm and appropriately tried to diffuse the situation by showing the bill of sale. There are a lot of adults who could take lessons from him, and his parents should be extremely proud of how he handled himself. That's an A+ from me.
Exactly, if you didn't do anything wrong there's nothing to worry about. Just sit back, comply with the officer and if it is unlawful prove it after and get paid.
If the kid had Bern an adult and conducted himself in the same manner he would have gotten an A. The fact that he was a 14 year old and handled himself the way he did, earns him an A++! Very mature!
News flash- most black people regardless of age behave this way. Society just like to sensationalize the idea that black people behave badly with the police
@@rmais50 those incidents are what make the news and help the media push its agenda . They wont broadcast 99.999% of police interactions where all parties are polite respectful and everyone goes on their way with either a minor ticket or a warning
That's because his dad probably taught him how to act around police, a lot of minors don't have parents teaching them how to be civil when around authority.
Everyone should ALWAYS remain calm and focused when dealing with the police. They are just trying to do their job, which is almost always difficult, messy, and fraught with possible dangers from any source, known or unknown. Remember, just like in this case, the facts usually lay somewhere in a hazy gray area and not in clear black/white. So remain calm, move slowly and unsuspiciously, and be clear and concise in exchanging any info with the officers, and you will almost never have problems with the police. The problems come when people do other than this while interacting. You shouldn't be overly emotional when dealing with police just because your son is involved when the reason is clearly stolen property. Remain calm and detached, find and locate the info, and clear up the situation. Like normal, everyday helping someone do their job properly.
@@Kraus- why are you bringing up guns? The father didn't have a gun pointed at him. And cops don't just pull guns for the heck of it. Quit being a snowflake social justice fake victim. I have seen you in multiple comments now Making unwarranted and silly claims not at all based in reality or law or the facts of this or any case. Quit painting all police encounters with a broad brush. You are ill informed and it makes you sound like an ignorant bigot, which I assume is the opposite of what you are trying, and failing, to do.
@@xxblade.2272 I agree some cops aren't doing their jobs properly. However, it is better to be bullied and fight it properly, in court, than to risk your life by making the altercation, however unjust, turn violent or perceived violent, which could provoke resisting arrest or worse, the cop using force, including lethal. Just because the cop was wrong, you will not come back from the dead and live again. Better to let the situation end peacefully and fight unjust actions in court than in the street with someone who is armed and may be on a power trip, as u say.
i fucking love this. shouts to that cop. This is a good example as to why being able to relate with your community goes a very long way. "I've been racing dirt bikes all my life, I've never once had one ran (check if it was stolen or not) until I was a cop"
@@SyntheticaYT When the Officer was talking about "had one ran" it means he actually verified that the Bill of Sale was valid and the vehicle wasn't stolen. Most people buy and sell motorcycles without checking the with DMV/Police to have the registrations "run" against the police records.
@@tnt_explorers954 oh, so the cop is basically saying that until he became a cop he never check to verify whether something was stolen he just went off of whether he trusted the person and the situation?
@@SyntheticaYT thanks for your question. I had the same Q, and was wondering about: running from cops, or running motor. Checking for clean title didn’t come to my mind
Because it's a dirt bike, this makes it more like your lawn mower than your car. Do you record the serial # and run it if you see a mower at a garage sale?
That is cop slang. The cop is a ding-dong, but he didn't mean, "The kid as been disrespectful"; "Running your mouth" in cop slang, means the person has been saying things with out being directly questioned by the officer, which makes it hear-say, but could still be admissible to the court. Anything you say, can and will be used against you, but it carries more weight if it was in response to a direct question form the officer. The officer heard it, when the kids Father asked the kid, and before the kid was mirandized. It's a long winded concept, and that is why they use slang for it.
@@Yourebeautyfull Yeah brother, I'm trying to help remind people to not say shit around a cop. It's not made up, it's an actual saying they use. He is literally saying, "I have hear say I think we can use to convict the kid"; All because the kid, was literally running his mouth, he was nervous, the father was nervous, they both wanted to resolve the issue, and the father asked the kid: "Who sold you the bike?" They kid said some guy's name. That could have gone very bad, the cop could have used that against the kid, to try and prove the kid had a prior relationship with the thief, and to convict the kid; the cop literally tried to use it, that is why he told the other LEO, "Kid was running his mouth, and I heard XYZ" Never "run your mouth" around a cop, AKA: Don't talk, just answer the most vague and simple question, until you have a lawyer.
@@elysian179 No it was like, "we're not accusing you of STEALING a vehicle, but it's still a crime to POSSESS a stolen vehicle". So, he was "being detained" for suspicion of knowingly possessing a stolen vehicle.
if I conducted business properly, with a bill of sale, I am not the guilty party. before purchasing how am I to know whats legal and whats stolen. thats why the kid wants to show him to let him know you after the wrong person
Why is respecting someone's pride a good thing? Pride is not a good thing. Especially when one is simultaneously proud and illegally depriving people of their freedom.
@@VengefulMaverick i'm pretty sure the bad cop was still in training. Teaching moments are times to "destroy" people. Context matters. You can't just destroy people from a single mistake. That'd be a dark dark world
@@WhiskeyNixon pride isn't necessarily bad and i'm pretty sure here it's meant in a sense closer to "dignity" without going out of his way to embarrass him. If he realized his mistake he would be plenty embarrassed by himself
I think the initial officer could arguably get an F+ or D- grade after learning he’s in training. Also hearing how he communicates with the confronting officer is hopeful for me because he asks questions and is trying to clarify things… hopefully he keeps asking the confronting officer cause that guy is great!
Dun matter if he's in training... what the FUCK is he doing on the streets enforcing the law!? It's like taking a medstudent and allowing them to go do surgery before even becoming a Resident.
@@kinagrill how tf else are you supposed to learn to deal with the public if you don't go out and get to deal with the public. Also, he's not out there alone. He's probably just finished with his official parts of training or towards the end of it where they're giving him a longer and longer "leash" or whatever. Other officer did a great job of talking to him there. He didn't just say "no, what you're doing is incorrect, go fix it". They had a conversation. The rookie officer was made to actually think through parts of it for himself. There is hope in this clip despite the mistakes and how much it sucked for the kid and his parents in the moment.
Im actually shocked that a police officer called out another police officer especially to his face, it’s usually left up to the court, or one officer wont get involved in another officers arrest. Good on him!!
A cop will never challenge another cop when there are regular civilians around. Amongst each other it happens often. If they'd do it with civilians around it would diminish their authority.
The A+ cop has good tact. Winston Churchill once said “ Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip”.
That kid and his dad were great! A+ for both of them! He didn’t even attempt to lie or talk any crap to the officers. More respectful then I probably would have been as a grown man. Not that I’m proud of that.
@@pab1381 Vastly different he was on the verge of being arrested and having to go thru hoops and hurdles to have it cleared off of his record because of police incompetence. The video shows that encounters by civilians are friendly it's usually the ignorant officer escalating the situation.
@@pab1381 oh ok, for sure I agree with you I myself had a similar encounter this year and was also immediately released. I feel this also highlights the need for more education or continuing education with LEOs.
Hell yeah!! ...and he asked him in a way to let the other officer figure it out himself, but when he didnt, that was when he gave the advice of what he would do.
All of that is good. Yet it does not change the fact that the kids civil rights were violated. The correct response from the cops would be to initiate a federal investigation into his actions.
@@patrick7247 While I agree, having been one for 30 years, you might consider that they get paid shit (less than school teachers) and risk their lives for it. The job only requires a high school education as well (I had a degree). You're not gonna get many cops trained if you expect them to spend a year doing so. But the biggest problem is you're expecting a $40,000 cop to be a million dollar lawyer, it can't happen. A high school graduate willing to risk his life for $40k is not generally capable of learning what a lawyer knows.
This is a beautiful teaching moment for everyone. The kids 14 He's a big kid but he didn't act erratic. The dad was chill. One person made a really bad call but somebody called them out on it and a legitimate way on a level in which he could understand.
The "confronting" officer is a gem! Law enforcement needs more like him. He should be assigned as a neighborhood ambassador. An absolutely terrific officer.
I agree but my concern is did he only intervene because the other office was a rookie? Would he have done the same thing with a peer or superior? Unless & until he would do it no matter the rank of the other cop, then we are not yet to where we need to be. In my opinion, making ALL responding officers responsible to grade ALL other responding officers behavior for each & every encounter is needed. This should be done pseudonymously (who voted & how can be determined if need be but not without cause or to determine if someone voted out of bad faith). Those that stand around silently with their hands in their pockets and say nothing are not good officers either. Putting in a 360 grade is a way for good officers to see & report bad ones in an indirect way thereby weeding out bad ones with a simple "it's been the concerted opinion of your fellow officers this week/month/year that your overall performance ranks lower than our professional standards allow, so you're being retrained/suspended/terminated." This can only be done because of BWC and the ability for an officers to have to give on-the-record justifications for their poor grades if/when called upon to do so like in cases where bad officers team up to grade a good cop low as retaliation. So the grades are mostly private but not always private and are subject to review. If chain-of-command is not doing things like this on a regular basis they are not doing a good job. When they supervise people with guns & badges more & better accountability is the only way forward.
I agree, moreover, I think his demeanor in HOW he addressed it was spot-on. He delivered his disagreements in a non-judgmental way and applied real-life comparisons for the rookie. In short, one of his responses was like: "Hey, these are real people and this is real life, the kid is doing reasonable things that any other person would do. I've done stuff like that, we all have."
Also those of us who don't know much or know minimum stuff like "LAWYER". I've learned more in the past two days by watching these than in my entire life atp lol
Massive shout out to the kid, can't believe he's only 14 he did better than a lot of adults. That was a masterclass on how to handle yourself; don't say much, stay calm, and comply with "reasonable" requests. Same with the dad too. NC native myself born and raised I even know the area he's in made me very proud of the ppl in my state. Completely agree with your assessment of both officers and I was happy to see one of my native officers get an A+.
@@ZesPak I Know, Right? Funny how a persons "interepretation" of a situation can drastically color others percepetion. I'm sure the Senior officer got to watch the video and llikely would have concluded that child was not "running his mouth" and was just providing valid information that the officer could have used in his investigation. As soon as he was let go, the kid went DIRECTLY to the Bill of Sale, did not pass go or collect $200. He knew exactly where it was and was denied the chance to make his case. I also notice how easily the kid complied, even with NO explanation from the cop for what reason he was being detained. This kid probably saved his own life since the cop already had judged him a criminal rather than suspecting him.
@@Metqa really shows you the importance and effectiveness of body cams. this is the greatest thing the American police force has ever done for the public, makes everyone accountable with hard evidence that can't be interpreted or faked (unlike police reports, even if they are written to the best of the officers ability of what you think happened to what actually happened).
It did seem like it would be easier to simply let him go into his house and get the documents himself. Clearly they were cooperating and there is no reason to not allow him to find the documents
@@maxpayne_860 the courts prove guilt, not arresting officers (this isn’t Judge Dredd), the officers detain, take statements, and decide whether to arrest or not , and if so then get them to court.
@@Duros360 Yes obviously the courts have to prove your innocence but the boys in blue are the enforcers so if they don't know laws & what they're really enforcing by time you're arrested and going to court you're already guilty at that point (in there eyes).
The channel forgot a major factor , the kid buys, fixes and resells bike, and has a facebook business page that advertises this, he bought the bike from a random to fix it and resell it! With no knowledge of it being stolen , same as a local dealership could ...This was a major factor in this video , sucks it was missed , the kids a legend to buy and fix bikes at 14 years old , Id literally shed a tear if my kid was so ambitious and skillful at 14!
Ahhh thank you, that's the missing link in my head... Why would someone buy and sell a bike within a 2 week window...? Because they fix and sell them... That makes sense, so there IS a 3rd party that actually stole the girl's bike and sold it to Malcolm, that was gonna bother me, thank you, I hope they catch the real thief now.
Why in the hell are officers still in training allowed to be on their own rather than being assigned a seasoned officer to ride and train with? This in itself says so much about WHY there is a lack of training. The young man, was very well behaved and showed absolutely no disrespect to any of the officers so I am not sure why he couldn’t be given a grade for his behavior.
Scary stuff he could have wrecked that kids life through his inexperience he just seems like he was hunting for a reason to arrest should definitely be shadowing the officer who corrected him can you imagine if other professions just let rookies go at it unsupervised
Why? Same as any other job. Shortage of people. Problem is these are far more sensitive and dire matters. So do you choose not enough people that are experienced enough? Or do you try to keep people in the role and hope they learn on the job? Catch 22. The mentors on our sites are supposed to look put for the new people...or they could be maimed or die. You don’t leave a new person alone. This is crazy.
Love the videos of good officers correcting the bad ones! Do more of those and I’m trying to search for more of those on your channel! Would love to see anytime someone of authority makes things right and corrects the bad actions and behaviors of other bad officers.
Just this kid’s body language when the cop approaches him tells you that cuffing him and putting him in the back of the car was far beyond unnecessary. He wasn’t rude or confrontational. Gave no indication that he wasn’t going to cooperate. Absurd.
Yeah, that's the problem I had with this. The officer didn't even know 100% the motorcycle was stolen at that point. He confirmed it afterwards. There was no need to cuff suspect who was cooperating before all the facts were in.
@@bmoremusic4768 That’s how you turn a nice respectable young man into a cynical asshole like myself. There’s just no need for it. Good on that other officer for coming and calling him on it. Only police can act like this and still keep their jobs. It’s absurd.
@@GarrettLoganGriffin Lol! Aww, well you can turn back, can't you? The fact that you're able to not focus on the negative and even appreciate the good in the other officer AND commend him, says good things about you. You haven't officially gone to the dark side, yet. Lol. The world could always use more ppl who can see and appreciate the good in ppl. I hope you decide to stay on our side :)
@@GarrettLoganGriffin Awesome! See? You're not cynical, you're probably just realistic about things, which is how we have to be. But ultimately still on the side of good. Well, I see my work here is done. Off to save another from the dark side. Up, up and away I gooo! (Dang, where's an emoji with a cape when ya need one?!) 😜🤣
I love how the confronting officer put his own experience in perceptive instead of being a legal robot. Officers that use there own life experience are keepers!
Yeah, the other officer just don't know how off-road vehicles are handled is all.... he was just treating it as though a on the road registered vehicle is all due to his lack of experience. You can bet he didn't even know that a bill of sales is literally one of the only options people have in the transferring of off-road vehicles. Dude was just inexperienced in how that shit works is all.... bet he is knowledgeable about it now though. lol The "race card" being pulled is just ridiculous, I've had the same happen to me a couple of times when I used to buy- sell- trade ATV's and it's always a newer cop that is clueless.
@@510Redneck The type of vehicle is irrelevant. Even if it were a whole ass car, or even a boat, a bill of sale is a legitimate defense. But the most important part of this is that the cop put handcuffs on the kid before even verifying the serial number.
@@510Redneck same as soon as I heard the race shit I was like no nigga just wasn’t trained well on his code. Mistakes happen, but this time it didn’t cost someone life and a rookie cop learned from it a mistake that he’ll most likely not commit again.(hopefully) (I’m black btw) race isn’t always the problem most of the time it’s bad training
I have a friend who was arrested for "stealing" his own car. He had reported it stolen, it was later found and returned to him. However, the police never updated their records even though they are the ones that found it. He went to renew the license plate later that year and was arrested there.
This literally happened to me. Car was stolen out of my driveway, called the police. They pulled the guy over the very next night but still hadn’t entered it as stolen, so it sat in the impound for 27 days until I called every impound in the twin cities. Then I notified the police, got it out of impound for more than the car was worth and found myself handcuffed and in the back of the squad for stealing my own car.
Dude I was selling a car me and my dad bought and because I was not the first name but the second I got arrested for selling a vehicle that was not under my possession even though the law states immediate kin as in wife, kid, or brother lol so it was not illegal even if I was selling my dad cars lol
To the officer that challenged his colleague, I salute you sir 🫡 You did what’s right, even in the face of one of your peers. You wanted to make sure things were done the right way and no one’s rights were violated. Thank you for not approaching the situation with a guilty until proven innocent mindset just because the bike was physically there. And also to the father and son you guys handled yourselves outstandingly. I hope you got your money back from the sale.
I love how the confronting officer told him to think about how things happened in real life and pointed out how he detained him before he verified the vin number
The arresting officer was in training so I think that is why the confronting officer took that approach. I really don't like the title of this video because it is assuming that because the officer in training made a really bad call that it makes him a "bad" officer. But, I also did not like the way the officer in training said that the kid in custody was "running his mouth". That type of rhetoric was unprofessional and tells me these "new" officers need better training.
@@8bert9 you’re right I think that had a lot to play with their interaction(between the training cop and the other one) but he did make a bad call because he said the kid was being arrested in the code before he even checked the vin and the kid was trying to tell him I have a Bill of sale for it but he wasn’t all that interested in it till after he put him in the car
@@mightguysseconddisciple8670 I agree and after watching the video a second time the officer in training, even after he was told to "basically" use a common sense approach by the other officer, was still thinking of charging the kid in juvenile court. Go to 14:28 in video for details. So, it makes me think that this officer in training did not learn anything from this encounter.
@@8bert9 I can only agree with the second half of your post. I think the most important thing that needs to be addressed with this cop is character, integrity, honesty, you know. All the things he was missing when he became a cop. He needs to be fired or closely watched, or taken off the street altogether. He's dangerous.
@@8bert9 yea he was still thinking about it till he saw that he couldn’t get the other guy to back him but yea hopefully he smarten up but yea I don’t think he learned anything
I give that kid an A+. He was calm and explained what he needed to. He didn't fight the first cop and let him do what he wanted. How could you not rate him? Kid or not he did what a ton of kids his age WOULDN'T do.
The problem is that a KID handled himself more maturely and honest then a GROWN UNIFORMED OFFICER. Why as the public do we have to hold ourselves to a standard the law doesn’t?
If that was the case then he shouldn't have received a A+. He would have been around a C for the fact he carried himself in a very professional manner and no one credible would say on the other hand. But, very specifically he did make errors from what he shouldn't have done. One, he gave information to the officer more than what he needed to do. that give them more information to find inconsistencies to justify doing more and being valid in there acts. Outside of his name and address there shouldn't have been anymore information offered. Two, again giving facts about information that wasn't there which again could give credible evidence to act in a certain way. Not saying he was wrong again of how this played out but saying he handled himself perfectly was wrong
If an experienced officer starts asking an officer in training questions like: "Are you sure you fully understand what the consequences of your actions will be?", you know the rookie F'ed up. As soon as the second officer showed up the encounter became an extended version of "Hey newb, what the heck do you think you're doing?"
The problem I see is, that the „rookie“ is Not fit for service but is in charge of things like that. Normaly you have to know the law before you enforce it. When I look on policing in the US I doubt that this is a case very often. Not just when it comes to „rookies“ but especially when it comes to veterans.
Not only a great cop, a great teacher. That is exactly how you teach people to think and reason for themselves, the Socratic method. But this is not a rookie problem. This is a bad character problem, a man with no morals, lying to superiors without blinking an eye. One of those who became an officer to impose his will on citizens and neither the logic or correction of an experienced superior could convince him otherwise. There will be no restraint on his actions on citizens for the next 30 years until retirement...
@@tonyb7615 I agree with you, this is a clear case of a rookie problem where the rookie act before knowing what's going on. The rookie clearly never consider any other scenario and assume guilt upon arrival which is dangerous to both the citizen and his colleague.
You are doing a great and very necessary job with your channel. I hope every police department take notes from you to greatly improve their services to the public.
He had to approach the arresting cop that way because he knew he was dealing with an ego maniac that will get butt hurt very easily and my lose his mind if he does not get to arrest this kid.
When he said that the kid was running his mouth, that’s so inappropriate and gross! How can a grown man lie on a kid like that who gave him no problems? 😡
He answered politely, gave his account without any rude or smart ass remarks! To say he was running his mouth was such a vile lie ; it makes me think he was racially profiled by officer! Not ok! 😡
@@irmarocha7809 yea im not one to jump to race in every arrest involving a minority race, but this really did seem racially motivated. Like even if the cop thinks he's not racist, he probably isn't self aware enough
“Running his mouth” doesn’t always mean being disrespectful especially around those parts of North Carolina. He probably meant the kid squealed on the guy who sold it, especially given the rest of the officers sentence.
He didn't mean being disrespectful. He meant that the kid was spilling facts without being questioned. He wasn't questioning the kids about those things. The kid was just telling him things. Poor choice of words but I get what he meant.
That young man handled himself with total class! Thank goodness for the officer who stood up and did the right thing! The rookie really wasn’t interested in the truth at all, just wanted to get some kind of arrest.😔
the first did a good job too- took the young man (who did sell a stolen bike even if it was unknown to him) into protective custody to prevent any escalation and sort out the situation
When you said “this could have been avoided if the officer gave as much trust to the boy as he had given the complaining party.” That’s like a revelation. Especially this day and age when you can get the cops called on you by any old Karen for any reason.
@@pfclex6737 yeah, I realize that. But my point is the whole point of the video, you never really know what’s going on until you talk to both sides. I wasn’t calling the owner of the bike a Karen, I was expanding on the point. Communication is key.
@@pfclex6737 Just because someone is in possession of stolen property doesn’t mean they’re the one who stole it. They might not even know it was stolen. You have to investigate further than “This person is in possession of stolen property, they must have stolen it or know it was stolen.”
I also would like to mention how calm his father stayed. It started with the officer doing wrong but this could have escalated on so many levels if just one of the other person's acted differently.
The good cop pointed out and corrected the bad cop’s behavior in the best way possible. No insults, no disdain, just polite suggestion. Fortunately the bad cop was at least in control of his emotions and did take feedback from his peers.
You'd be surprised, man. I lived across the street from a house full of revolving door crooks; they would commit a relatively severe crime once or twice a week and the police would be over there. One day, one of the crooks in the house stole a sportbike, and he wrote a fake license plate with sharpie and paper on top of the real plate, and parked it right on the lawn, the police came by and recovered it literally within hours. Though I think probably you would find out that this is not that, when you talk to the kid, who seemed to be clear thinking and polite (not the kind to do something that stupid).
I have to take the steps to write this officer a letter of appreciation. This should be sent to every department for training purposes. Amazing officer. I’d back the blue if they were all like him.
I wouldn't say "we" here, only the cop who cuffed him seemed to think that way. The other two cops recognized it was a bad call and discussed that before one of them explained to the detaining officer what he did wrong.
Ehhhhhh. It was a stolen bike. There was a crime, he did possess stolen goods. The issue isn’t “Is he a criminal?” Technically he is. The issue is how the officer in training handled it. It’s fun to hate 100,000 cops because of the few we see on TV, but this dude was just wrong. Not a dick, just unlearned at his craft.
@@derekstiles5801 what video did you watch? Your post is the perfect example of cherry picking information to fit your agenda. Just buying something stolen doesn't make you a criminal if you didn't know or have reason to believe that it was stolen. He is actually the victim of a crime
@@PhillipG34 military and police are different. Some academies can be military like but the job is different. Can't compare the two Edit: also academies do exercises and scenarios. Just because you train doesn't mean you'll always do it the same. You don't know how you'll react in a real situation till you're in it
@@yeti186 they are different and u most certainly can compare the 2. For starters army for example have MPs (military police) they get more training then normal cops. Thats also not including their basic training( boot camp) which every solider must complete. But besides MPs every soldier has their basic training and advanced training before they actually do their job. Cops should be held to the same standard since they have military type weapons. I mean idk about u, but I would like the cops to know what they're doing and be trained accordingly to do their job correctly.
Been binge watching your videos and i love all of them. I commend you going depths to research each topic and It would be amazing to have update of the videos where the cases were undecided or was on going.
RESPECT! To the two cops that questioned the detained. Some people ask why there's so much hate towards cops. Many times it's because of experiences like this one. This is this kids first interaction with cops. He sells motorbikes and some asshole hustled him.
@@jootan91 but it wasn't justified. And The nightingale is specifically responding with "hate that cop" to a comment that mentions "because of experiences like this one".
ass was the father - its better to put possible suspects in a safe controlled situation to prevent escalation and possible dumb moves by citizens or cops- no arrest no charges - the kid did have a stolen bike so the 1st officer was justified to take control until it can be sorted out
@@bikeman1x11 No, the veteran officer explained it to the officer in training. I guess you didn't look at the video nor hear what was said, and why he was wrong.
@@bikeman1x11 i didn’t see the father say a word? But this control mentality is where things could have very easily gone south real bad. If the kid panicked, acted up, and got shot, what would you say then? This attempt at safe control was worth it? The 14 yo kid deserved it because he didn’t comply? So his punishment is death?
@@TheBooban exactly so cuffing putting in a car makes that less likely- he was selling a stolen bike - so the situation was handled well- the kid could have gotten agitated if he were loose
It was more of a senior officer challenging an officer in training. They don't do anything like that when it's a partner or an officer on an equal level.
1.) How do you know he is not gonna run. 2.) He is a suspect for a crime (at the time). Definitely should be cuffed but he shouldn’t have been treated with some of the disrespect he was treated with.
@@rainyisgreen2k422 disagreed, literally put in the order to arrest him, detaining mightve been fine, but at the same time he was gonna take him to the station
I don’t consider the cop a bad cop because once another more experienced cop told him he was wrong he corrected the action it was a misunderstanding for sure but I wouldn’t say racially charged and it’s important to know the difference.
No he wasn't, they were training him, the guy said at the end finally that he was new. You even hear him ask if the officer made an error, then closes the car door to discuss it in front of him so to not embarrass him. This is just a hit piece for a new cop with amazing trainers. What's even worse than bad cops are people who try to frame every cop in as negative a light as possible. Even this great encounter is reported as "shit cop saved by lucky hero cop" as if that wasnt what the training was about.
The officer that stopped the overzealous trainee from ruining the young polite 14 year olds life deserves to be the head of that department!!! He is genuine and honest! For that, thank you sir! If only there were more cops like him, but the sad thing is the majority of seasonal cops have the ego attitude of the trainee and they are training the others to destroy people's lives with their ego driven mindset!
"I'm not saying that you stole the vehicle, but i'm gonna have you in handcuffs in the back of my cruiser despite the fact you say you have evidence that you didn't actually steal this and I have no reason to put you in handcuffs"
What if that bill of sale is fake? Is the stealer's name written on it as the seller? The money he bought it for can be deducted as expenses to reduce his income tax. Also the original owner has to refund him the money back and then try to get her money back from whoever stole her bike so he still wins and she loses.
@@frv6610 then it goes through proper procedures. This is not proper procedures. And since it's a what if scenario, it doesn't apply. The law and our rights as human beings is innocent until proven guilty.
@@Paztacos The time stamp is at 59 seconds exactly when the narrator mentions there were two cops. I just never saw the second one in the body cam, hence the confusion.
Also , it’s good the cops let him make that mistake. Letting him make that mistake will hopefully prevent future mistakes. Maybe that cop will go on to use that in training others? Of course it would have been better if the guy learned the right thing in the first place. That poor kid , and I hope the officer who confronted the first officer got some praise . People say he shouldn’t be praised for doing his job ... but I disagree.
If I lived in that area I would gladly pay for an entire nights worth of drinks for that confronting officer. It took courage and brains for him to confront a fellow officer and advocate for both the law and that young man simultaneously. Officer, I salute you.
We should pat people on the back for doing their jobs well. That is literally how you encourage people to KEEP doing their jobs well, reward the good and punish the bad.
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THE OFFICER THAT CHALLENGED THE LEGALITY OF THE "DETAINMENT OR ARREST", NEEDS TO BE COMMENDED! HE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GOOD OFFICER!!! THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND HUMANITY!
Completely ignored the officer that was aiding the initial officers conduct while "in training"
@@rafwhy9888 so police can detain or arrest you based off of someone's word? So, you know how to properly represent yourself in court, when you don't have the funds at the time? Listen, I agree justice that is apparent needs to occur so no additional harm is done, but the reasons these Laws exist is to help those that are innocent from being thrown under the bus from bias, misunderstanding, and or rushing it.
The discomfort of calling out a co worker and then being on awkward terms with them afterwards is no joke. This guy is a courageous leader.
It really just speaks volume about the confidence of both coworkers then.
Can the coworker who witnessed the issue at large able to stand for what is right, and challenge the possible fact that he/she may lose a relationship with the person in question.
On the otherhand, the coworker who is in the wrong is tested by their ego, as well as their confidence to not hate the opposing opposition rather than deluding themselves that they are right.
Regardless of personal reasons.
In a twisted way, people who ignore their families/friends bad behavior are not really faithful to them;
but rather want to preserve their own status, or image within the relationship.
A real cop knows that if they were out of line, they would want their companion to let them know
Felt that
The original officer was probationary, the "good" officer is wearing pin that indicates he is likely involved with the probie in "ghost" training. If you listen, it is training toned and the original officer both accepts TO overriding his decision and seeks guidance on how to move forward from this point. As both a probationary officer and FTO, I had many similar discussions. Why are you doing that? What is your PC? And the best of all time: Freaking probie out and making them correctly give their exact location, crucial training for situational awareness. FTO did a stellar job, probie learned, everybody went home. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner !!!
Ask the Deputy from FL who pulled over and wrote up a cop for going 100+ and got mad she wouldn't cut him a break.
The really stupid thing here: The kid WANTS to help the investigation in every way possible - getting the bill of sale, showing the real criminal's facebook profile... and the officer is keeping him handcuffed so he can't do any of it.
The officer was basically interfering with the investigation.
Facts he's obstructing himself
Rules for thee but not for me
Mhmm. I would have told him to come back with a warrant or fuck off.
I TOTALLY AGREE with you, Kuroro!!!
It’s crazy because the kid is a 3 star in football
It's so refreshing to see a cop correct another overzealous cop before he makes a costly mistake. We need more of him!!!
Was is because he genuinely cared about the detainee or to protect his buddy's ass from getting a complaint and lawsuit?
Edit: It's 2021 so I need to add or was it the fact he knew he was going to he called a racist?
@@Al-Gore-ithm His motive doesn't matter. Even out of self preservation, more responsible policing is needed. Would you not agree?
Well the reason they do that shit is because the cop, himself, can't be held liable. The "costly mistake" is costly for the tax payers who have done nothing wrong not the cops
@@BraddahBang yes... u dont wanna see good cops? Or are u a cop that thinks there good? Cough cough ignorant... cough
I think we just have an inexperienced officer being trained here, not necessarily an overzealous cop.
That cop who tells him flat out:
"As a kid I've had dirt bikes 4 wheelers I never ran the vin until I became a cop" is so refreshing a cop putting himself in that kids place was awesome.
Oh that’s what he said! I wish more officers would put themselves in the citizen’s shoes.
@Dane P Vin is vehicle identification number. Basically looking up the plate to see if it's stolen
@@easyglistening exactly he saw himself in that kid and knew there's no possible way he could've known the bike was stolen if he had a bill of sale. That gave me hope for our law enforcement officers
That’s the thing even on cars most people don’t know what the vin number is or where it is I only know cause I had to use to get a new log book for my car.
A cop with common sense.
It is important to call out bad cops, equally important to praise the good cops. He handled that like a pro.
Agreed.
There is good and bad in all walks of life and just because one is bad doesnt make it all bad.
Recently the curriculum would probably be taught by a resource officer who has zero idea what is actually right. Government always finds a way to protect the government.
It's also important to call out bad citizens being detained by cops, because their actions or inaction should also be taken into account. This kid however did an amazing job staying calm and respectable rather than resisting arrest, getting angry and acting erratic, only for communities to blame the cop instead of the decisions of the detained. We've watered down the concept of personal responsibility on all sides.
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I kind of think it's more important to call out bad cops, because the vast majority of cops are good, and just doing their jobs and going home. Maybe in today's environment they're equally important, with all the morons trying to reduce their funding.
I appreciate the officer who had sense enough to police his colleague. That's all we are asking for.
That's all who Is asking for?
@@BlueEyedMomof378 figure of speech my guy, don't be in such a hurry to contend with your own. grow.
@@thepompafilliannetwork I was asking who we is because I wasn't sure if you were speaking for a group😂😂 I didn't realize asking a question was being "in a hurry to contend with my own". Come to think of it, asking questions is a great way to grow, and also is indicative of an open mind.
Edit for stupid auto wrong.
@@BlueEyedMomof378 You make a great point!
Last I checked, you and your thug friends were holding signs telling people to kill all cops and burning down buildings with children inside.
The officer who understand the situation at hand, truly is a great human being. He puts himself in someone else’s position and does a great job explaining to the officer in training how he would feel. Instead of yelling at him, he calms the situation and ends the confrontation. A real 21st century officer.
Empathy when used appropriately really helps the relationship between officers and the community.
@@shontaefranklin5610 Very true
he is amazing few like him
Who knows how long he will last in the force since they kick out good cops like him.
@@jaxstax2406 good cops even loose their retirement. Sometimes they even get internally killed
I was like, “Is this cop new?” Then they showed him and I was like “Yeah, he looks young and has nothing on his uniform.” Turns out he’s still in training. Why is he alone without a CO? I hope this teaches him a long lasting lesson about being a better cop.
Quite possible he could have just completed his FTO(Field Training Officer)
He is not alone. There are always two officers on scene. You can see one in the frame and the other is wearing the body camera that is recording the whole thing. The second officer is likely his field trainer and is letting him take the situation to where he wants to go. When it starts to go in the wrong direction he steps in to guide him.
A+ to a 14 year old for knowing what a bill of sale is and generally being patient
Definitely. No doubt about it!
It's his business. He buys broken-down bikes, fixes them, then resells them for a profit.
The son and the father get A+, but then the mother had to go and make it about race, C-
@@marfin4325 But it was about race. If this was a rich white kid, that never would've gotten to that point. Lets be real.
@@davelanger You be real, this same channel has a bunch of videos of cops being unjust to young white kids. You're delusional.
The kid gets an A+. He was calm and explained to the officer that he had a Bill of Sale.
Criminals know what they are doing. The system against the system.
@@coupureetsaignement Great points - I agree.
@@KnightInDaLight you can do it. You can form your thought.
I would give him a B just for not balling his eyes out when they cuff him. Given how this actually went, and A+ is very well earned.
@Corwin719 you don't believe that criminals use children as shield, don't you? Live a little and you start to see many things. Light that small light in your brain to start seeing.
I give the kid an A++.
A 14 year old who's making money by fixing and selling dirt bikes, instead of those who hang around doing nothing, and was calm during this whole ordeal, earns a great deal of respect.
Agreed. That kid is impressive on several levels.
Agreed
Looks like his parents and him did right.
@donald johnson But he isn't running a mechanics shop. He's repairing vehicles he owns and then selling those vehicles. That is legal in most cities.
Cities are concerned about things like high foot & vehicle traffic, parking, pollution, and lots of unsightly cars parked in a front yard.
But his business doesn't generate any of those things. He is engaged in a low volume business and he can repair the dirt bikes in his (parent's) garrage.
His business doesn't negatively impact his neighbors.
@donald johnson Except that he's not running a mechanic's shop. He's fixing the bikes he technically owns and then resell them afterwards. If that's illegal, jail would be full with carflippers and people who DIY their vehicles.
I really like how that confronting officer did that confrontation.
He basically without actually saying it that the rookie was about to make a huge mistake and allowed the rookie to undo his decision before things got completely out of hand.
Honestly A++ for that guy.
Kid: Calmly and and respectfully pleads his innocence.
Cop: He's been running his mouth.
Yeah I thought that too! So twisted!
A****** SOB cop
Man that cop needs to get his shit straight that got me pissed
Great point, heard the cop say it, didn't register that it was a total lie at the time.
The officer was referring to the fact that once a suspect is detained, as this kid was, they have to be read their rights - including the right to remain silent. The officer was not being derogatory, he just was informing the other officer that he had not asked any questions, but the kid was talking anyways.
The cop had the audacity to say “he’s running his mouth” when that kid was nothing but respecty to that cop who doesn’t deserve any respect. smh
FACTS!!!!
So true. It's nothing but Contempt of cop.
See the things about this is since he’s 14 he probably has no experience with cops no has his parents told him anything about it so he probably heard about New so his first reaction would just comply
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I’m going to play devil’s advocate here. He didn’t mean it in the way you interpreted it. It was meant as the kid continued to give him “evidence” even though they were trying to build a case against him. It’s common to use this phrase after a suspect is ignorant to the fact that they need not say anything at all to the police.
As soon as he said he can get his bill of sale it felt so obvious that the kid bought the bike from the guy who had stolen it and yet somehow only one officer understood that
I think there were 3 and the other guy who verified the vin would have assumed he just bought the bike from the thief.
The cop was determined to get him in the SYSTEM.
This video dosen't show all, watch the 2 hour video you will see how hellbent that 1st cop was. I wish this video showed the cop giving the child a body search not a pat down and taking things out his pockets.
I really hope that community is keeping an eye on that cop...
You can forge a bill of sale and it supports your claim that you didn't know it was stolen. Kid deserves the benefit of the doubt but I would be very suspicious if this happened again.
Also him having multiple bill of sales means he's almost certainly a flipper who buys things and sells them on for a profit, a perfectly legitimate business practice and I hope that this situation won't deter him from following that and being a legitimate businessman in the future.
@@zacharybell5534 😑 you just can't let go of the possibility getting him huh? Yah lost, he's an innocent kid. Let him live.
That was some seriously impressive diplomacy on display by the second officer talking the arresting officer down and into making the right decision, not only for the poor kid but also their own career.
This teenager behaved like a man of honor, defending his name. He was courteous, respectful even in face of an arrest happy cop. Well done, young man and I wish you well!
Most likely not his first encounter.
I really feel bad for him
@@corail53 .... or he could have just been raised in an upstanding household
@@corail53 Why do you say that?
When you’re innocent, it would be best to temporarily face the arrest until that cop is proven wrong.
That teenager even sounds like that he have the evidence to prove his innocence.
This is the kind of stuff I would’ve liked to have learned in my public schooling. At least one class “is this legal? 101”
I doubt that'll ever happen because they don't want you to know the law and this is why all the Civics classes I had when I was a kid have been taken out of the school system.
My high school had a class called "Street Law," which was pretty much what it sounds like. One of THE most valuable classes I took! It was an elective, though.
Glad im european
We were lucky to have street and civil law classes in hs but I REALLY wish we had a financial class.
@@EZurg I believe it
"Running his mouth," more like calmly offered to provide official documentation before being brashly denied the opportunity sort out the situation.
I don't think he meant running his mouth like in a disrespectful way. I'm almost certain he meant as in giving out more information than legally required to.
That is cop slang. The cop is a ding-dong, but he didn't mean, "The kid as been disrespectful"; "Running your mouth" in cop slang, means the person has been saying things with out being directly questioned by the officer, which makes it hear-say, but could still be admissible to the court. Anything you say, can and will be used against you, but it carries more weight if it was in response to a direct question form the officer. The officer heard it, when the kids Father asked the kid, and before the kid was mirandized. Now, see how long the comment was to describe that concept, that is why they use slang for it.
@@oddvoid Interesting, I haven't heard that before. Thanks for sharing
@@doorgoo the fact that the kid said he had a bill of sale and then a chat log with the seller and the officer didnt go oh snap slam dunk open shut case let me get copies and we'll head on over to his place and investigate blows my mind
the officer meant that the kid was consensually giving them information that he was protected to not give under the 4th amendment. He didn't mean he was running his mouth in a bad way
This is the kind of cop that seriously needs recognition with a promotion.
"he's been running his mouth." so by answering your questions he's running his mouth. he already had his mind made up that this kid was a criminal. prejudice at its best. im glad the other cop stepped up. now go find the dude that stole the bike.
white cops. white complainant.
@@youtuberconsuming6411 Maybe , being a trainee he was just a keener power tripper, and race had nothing to do with it.
@@stephenvendryes2910
Maybe it's both🤷♂️
Yeah I heard that. I was like, running his mouth? He has been very respectful and has been answering your questions.
@@stephenvendryes2910 right.delusion must be a nice fase to be in
wow. "he's been running his mouth" he was nothing but respectful and nice to officer.... that man is fucked.
I think he meant it like, "Hes been saying a lot of stuff on the bike"
Racism is a by product of brain rot
It's like when your parents ask why you are talking back to them, and they were just literally asking you questions and then yell at you for not answering. Mix signals.
I think he realised he messed up and rather than simply fixing his mistake he tried to explain it away. He couldn't admit he was wrong so he was trying to make himself look better.
Edit: Calling for training is always a great outcome rather than protests, riots, etc. Good on the kid's family.
@@tybahza5643 You can hear him say "i didn't ask any questions, he's been running his mouth", meaning that the kid was defending himself from something which there is still no proof of that he did, it had nothing to do with manners or how the officer felt, rather that he's bringing suspicion on himself
"he's been runnin' his mouth" sneaky; trying to manipulate his co officer into believing his actions were justified. Not good
That bad cop is a scam artist
Running his mouth doesn’t mean “talking shit”, running his mouth means spilling the beans, letting the cat out of the bag, regarding the guy he bought the bike off of. Nothing to do with being disrespectful :S
@@Duros360 here in America… that’s considered disrespectful. It’s manipulative. Of course he’s gonna “spill the beans” he’s DEFENDING himself. Think before you speak.
@@chellyfancypants Lol, read other comments on here before you make blanket statments. About 3 comment chains down (Shaky Cam one) there are people talking about cop slang, and jargon phrases.
Think before you make exclusive blanket statments
@@chellyfancypants yea @Duros360 is correct several other comment threads explaining this. It's not disrespect he's referring to so its kind of silly you're being a dick when you're not fully comprehending.
8:55 for anyone who wanted to rewatch that legend of an officer correcting the situation. We need more 5-0 like this guy
One of my favorite clips on this channel
@thejaylen1777 I would agree. That cop got my respect big time. He handled that absolutely perfectly. I don't think there are many other cops in the world that would be able to fix that situation, that smoothly, so reasonably and professionally.
Thank you for telling me when 👍👍
That critical officer should be promoted. He has the right mindset about police conduct. We need officers like him to be teaching and training future officers. Bravo!
Couldn't agree more.
I don't want this to be taken the wrong way but I don't necessarily agree that this warrants a promotion. I say that for the following reasons:
1) while absolutely correct and following PROPER, established police procedure, this officer was merely doing EXACTLY what ALL officers are supposed to do in the given situation. He wasn't getting ahead of himself and allowing the fact that stolen property was there in possession of the defendant, a minor, to cloud his judgment as to whether said defendant had in fact committed any crime whatsoever.
2) the responding officer was admitted to be in training and the critical officer seemed to be walking him through proper mindset, actions, and chain of custody. In other words, doing what you are supposed to do for people who are training "on the job."
3) Lastly, while as stated in point #1, it is a great example of an officer doing the right thing, it is merely a case of an officer doing EXACTLY what ALL officers are supposed to do. What I got most out of this is the need for much more rigorous and thorough training for ALL officers in practical policing with the public and all other facets of police work involving establishment of crimes, what warrants an arrest, and proper procedure and chain of actions during all aspects just mentioned.
Have a great day everyone, and remember, I'm commending the officer for doing the right thing I just think it points to so many problems that this is seen as extraordinary or above and beyond the normal call of duty.
@@DavidThomas-qq4hf unfortunately the correcting officer will probably be punished for his correct actions by his fellow blue line brothers.
@@chrisgibson2779 I get the cynicism in today's political and social climate. The news will never report anything encouraging or good done by officers under these media boss regimes. Fortunately that's not the reality. Good cops actually outweigh bad ones by 100s to 1 or more it's just never reported that way(and I'm not some huge police fan FYI, just facts). Unfortunately, a few very bad examples are used to paint an entire swath of millions of individual people doing a very hard job as all corrupt, power hungry murderers. Thankfully this isn't even close to reality and to portray it as such is for headlines, clicks and selling ads and making millions off of lies. I hope we can get back to a place in the middle where we punish ANYONE, including cops, who do bad or kill or act with corruption and impunity, and where we praise people who do the right thing and go out of their way to help others. Having everyone think so polarized is further dividing our country, not bringing anyone together. Sad to see.
I'd go more for a raise than a promotion. We need more cops like him in the streets.
“He was running his mouth.” No he wasn’t, he was being cooperative and respectful.
You should probably search here in the comments for the meaning of that expression among cops
@@darthnox7958 as if it isn't blatantly obvious lol
@@TheShadowPhantom1 no, it isn't, taking into consideration they guy in the comment implied the police officer was saying he was being uncooperative and was being disrespectful
@@TheShadowPhantom1 I guess you should look it up as well then
@@darthnox7958
Regardless of the meaning of the idiom “running his mouth”, the cop was clearly trying fabricate an excuse to justify his wrongful actions. And the comment is correct, the boy was being cooperative and respectful.
I love how that other cop completely broke this down, educated that cop, and cleaned up this mistake. Give that guy a raise and a promotion. Especially after seeing that young cop trying to come up with a reason to arrest an innocent kid.
Yes, I agree. However, the initial officer is an example we see too often. Even after he was proven to have made a mistake, he kept on trying to find a reason to arrest the kid.
@@mervyngreene6687 am thinking cops have to be egotistical idiots to be hired..... Smh
@@SOLIDESsnake1 funny thing is that if your iq/gep (i forget which one they apply) is to high they won't hire you. Meaning that they deliberately hire people who aren't to keen on thinking about orders they're given by their superiors and instead just doing what they're told.
@@Draco9909 where have you heard that? I've never seen that before. Where is your evidence because that sounds unbelievable.
@@Monster_Cuck there was a court case back in 2017 or 2018 (I think) where a guy was suing the local pd (I don't know which county it was for as its been awhile) because they refused his application on the basis of him having a high gep. The case was thrown out as the pd responded with they do the same to all their applicants and more or less say "you're to smart to be working for us". If I find the case I'll post it but for now I sleep, or you can Google it as I'm pretty sure it was on the news at one point.
Mr ziggler gets an A+. He remained calm, gave the cops all the information he knew, tried his best to let the cops know who he bought it from and was willing to show the bill of sales.
@@benjiro8793 why would that concern them if they are there for something totally different and besides its only a picture they can't do anything
@@johnathanjakesjr775 so gullible. Once they have access to your phone for evidence, they can legally "accidently" stumble upon other evidences for other offences
@@geennaam4576 again wat that gotta do with the original investigation?
@@johnathanjakesjr775disregard him, he is just extremely paranoid 😂
@@geennaam4576I don’t think most judges would allow any evidence that was outside of the purview of the investigation to begin with.
I'll give the kid an A+. Not a lot of adults would do their "due diligence" when purchasing a vehicle like this. The fact that he did and remained calm while proving such under duress is a testament to him as a citizen.
Smart kid and good parenting are the reason they remained calm. Good for the senior officer for pointing out the juniors mess up. Under 18, kid isn't going anywhere anyhow. It's stolen property not manslaughter.
@@vovobillinbrazil It's also not a crime in this case as they bought it in good faith and luckily, had the bill of sale. Even a scribbled (But legible) note is enough if it's signed.
Ya for real. Wtf. That kids responsible as fuck. Good kid.
@@VadoVoodoo It is not a crime at all. He is actually the victim of a crime here (they lose the bike and do not get their cash back). That is what makes the actions of the first officer even worse.
@@zelandakhniteblade5436 Agreed. But then again, the kid was black, so who needs joined-up reasoning when you can go direct to the target of your particular liking eh? :)
This was refreshing. This was a good cop, he knew the law, he knew this didn’t feel right to him and he immediately did something about it while still trying to make it a teachable lesson for the cop who was trying to arrest this kid.
What about the thought process of this kid going forward. This was terrible.
@@ClarityDetermination ive seen this exact scenario play out in an all white area more than once. noone was hurt, threatened, the kid was completely compliant, other than the parents tryin to twist the narrative this was just a rookie reacting to a kid running away from a 'crime scene' and just doin rookie stuff. he wasnt aggressive, he just misunderstood the law. as soon as the experienced officer arrived, the system worked here. doesnt qualify as 'terrible'
@@1dle1ndustries well then I think you do not have a clue what goes through the mind and body of, especially, a well educated black male. They have had the "talk" about the fear of death - walking while black. Being a minority number in the US and yet way higher percentage killed or arrested with a beating.
If you don't think that cop, showing or pretending he didn't even know about the history and environment of violence against black men, then he did more psychological damage to that man than many could have inflicted over a lifetime.
You can't even compare the fear level and mindset of young white men to young black men.
@@1dle1ndustries So when I restrain, and imprison someone within my vehicle because I believe the law allows me. It's okay? No. Just because it didn't end badly doesn't make it okay.
@@1dle1ndustries so what about all of the times "the system" doesn't work all because the cop "misunderstood the law" (which is bullshit considering that is the basis on which that cop's entire job stands upon)?
Honestly the kid gets a solid A+ as well. Considering his lack of life experience, he did everything a reasonable, calm person should have to prove his innocence.
Absolutely. That kid was put in a really tough and unnecessarily hostile situation. He kept calm and appropriately tried to diffuse the situation by showing the bill of sale. There are a lot of adults who could take lessons from him, and his parents should be extremely proud of how he handled himself. That's an A+ from me.
He likely has lots of experience and practice I doubt it was the first stolen property he sold
@@j0a3k note if I ever try to sell stolen goods create a bill of sell and have a minor sell it
@@jessewilson8676 A bill of sale will eventually lead back to the person that stole it. Probably not the best plan.
Exactly, if you didn't do anything wrong there's nothing to worry about. Just sit back, comply with the officer and if it is unlawful prove it after and get paid.
For a minor, he did a great job! Didn't lose it or fight them, fought to prove he didn't commit a crime, and waited patiently for his time to shine.
Im pretty sure he knows what happens to people like him or something that would happen for someone like him
He has a nice family. God Bless Him. More and more in my old age I'm seeing young officers continually making rookie mistakes.
@@ArleneCarney-ec5lc at least the second officer did quite well.
If the kid had Bern an adult and conducted himself in the same manner he would have gotten an A. The fact that he was a 14 year old and handled himself the way he did, earns him an A++! Very mature!
he was goin to jail 🤷🏽♂️ thats all in his head nothing he will do like u said he’s 14
Bern
News flash- most black people regardless of age behave this way. Society just like to sensationalize the idea that black people behave badly with the police
@@rmais50 those incidents are what make the news and help the media push its agenda . They wont broadcast 99.999% of police interactions where all parties are polite respectful and everyone goes on their way with either a minor ticket or a warning
That's because his dad probably taught him how to act around police, a lot of minors don't have parents teaching them how to be civil when around authority.
I think that the guys father should get a A+ for remaining calm and keeping focused on finding the evidence.
Yes, it is good the father remained calm. the father is aware this is America.
Everyone should ALWAYS remain calm and focused when dealing with the police. They are just trying to do their job, which is almost always difficult, messy, and fraught with possible dangers from any source, known or unknown. Remember, just like in this case, the facts usually lay somewhere in a hazy gray area and not in clear black/white. So remain calm, move slowly and unsuspiciously, and be clear and concise in exchanging any info with the officers, and you will almost never have problems with the police. The problems come when people do other than this while interacting. You shouldn't be overly emotional when dealing with police just because your son is involved when the reason is clearly stolen property. Remain calm and detached, find and locate the info, and clear up the situation. Like normal, everyday helping someone do their job properly.
@@xxblade.2272 And it's not reasonable to expect people to be calm while they have guns pointed at them which too many cops do before even talking.
@@Kraus- why are you bringing up guns? The father didn't have a gun pointed at him. And cops don't just pull guns for the heck of it. Quit being a snowflake social justice fake victim. I have seen you in multiple comments now Making unwarranted and silly claims not at all based in reality or law or the facts of this or any case. Quit painting all police encounters with a broad brush. You are ill informed and it makes you sound like an ignorant bigot, which I assume is the opposite of what you are trying, and failing, to do.
@@xxblade.2272 I agree some cops aren't doing their jobs properly. However, it is better to be bullied and fight it properly, in court, than to risk your life by making the altercation, however unjust, turn violent or perceived violent, which could provoke resisting arrest or worse, the cop using force, including lethal. Just because the cop was wrong, you will not come back from the dead and live again. Better to let the situation end peacefully and fight unjust actions in court than in the street with someone who is armed and may be on a power trip, as u say.
i fucking love this. shouts to that cop. This is a good example as to why being able to relate with your community goes a very long way.
"I've been racing dirt bikes all my life, I've never once had one ran (check if it was stolen or not) until I was a cop"
What does that mean?
@@SyntheticaYT When the Officer was talking about "had one ran" it means he actually verified that the Bill of Sale was valid and the vehicle wasn't stolen. Most people buy and sell motorcycles without checking the with DMV/Police to have the registrations "run" against the police records.
@@tnt_explorers954 oh, so the cop is basically saying that until he became a cop he never check to verify whether something was stolen he just went off of whether he trusted the person and the situation?
@@SyntheticaYT thanks for your question. I had the same Q, and was wondering about: running from cops, or running motor. Checking for clean title didn’t come to my mind
Because it's a dirt bike, this makes it more like your lawn mower than your car. Do you record the serial # and run it if you see a mower at a garage sale?
Very brave officer for confronting one of their own, very very rare to see that. That cop needs to be awarded a medal. My Respect for that Cop.
When was the kid running his mouth?
He was surprisingly calm and thoughtful
That is cop slang. The cop is a ding-dong, but he didn't mean, "The kid as been disrespectful"; "Running your mouth" in cop slang, means the person has been saying things with out being directly questioned by the officer, which makes it hear-say, but could still be admissible to the court. Anything you say, can and will be used against you, but it carries more weight if it was in response to a direct question form the officer. The officer heard it, when the kids Father asked the kid, and before the kid was mirandized. It's a long winded concept, and that is why they use slang for it.
@@oddvoid You are just making that up and copy pasting the same message over this entire comment section.
@@Yourebeautyfull Yeah brother, I'm trying to help remind people to not say shit around a cop. It's not made up, it's an actual saying they use. He is literally saying, "I have hear say I think we can use to convict the kid"; All because the kid, was literally running his mouth, he was nervous, the father was nervous, they both wanted to resolve the issue, and the father asked the kid: "Who sold you the bike?" They kid said some guy's name. That could have gone very bad, the cop could have used that against the kid, to try and prove the kid had a prior relationship with the thief, and to convict the kid; the cop literally tried to use it, that is why he told the other LEO, "Kid was running his mouth, and I heard XYZ" Never "run your mouth" around a cop, AKA: Don't talk, just answer the most vague and simple question, until you have a lawyer.
@@Yourebeautyfull he's copy pasting cos it's long af lol but it's not made up
@@Yourebeautyfull No, it's an actual thing. Simply look it up.
"we're not accusing you of stealing a vehicle. We're just putting handcuffs on you and putting you in the squad car."
I think I heard him say “Were not saying you have a stolen vehicle but remember thats its bad if you have a stolen vehicle”
@@elysian179 No it was like, "we're not accusing you of STEALING a vehicle, but it's still a crime to POSSESS a stolen vehicle". So, he was "being detained" for suspicion of knowingly possessing a stolen vehicle.
Technically he’s still being detained despite handcuffs and in vehicle.
Story of my life when cops see my tatoos lmfao
if I conducted business properly, with a bill of sale, I am not the guilty party. before purchasing how am I to know whats legal and whats stolen. thats why the kid wants to show him to let him know you after the wrong person
challenging officer is a hero. he even respected the other officers Pride in the situation by not talking down to him. actual hero.
True he didn't belittle the other officer, just calmly gave professional advice. A good cop, but also I'd say a decent human being
@@boneythelynx8884 bad cops and people should be belittled and destroyed. People like that cause pain and suffering for everyone else.
Why is respecting someone's pride a good thing? Pride is not a good thing. Especially when one is simultaneously proud and illegally depriving people of their freedom.
@@VengefulMaverick i'm pretty sure the bad cop was still in training. Teaching moments are times to "destroy" people. Context matters. You can't just destroy people from a single mistake. That'd be a dark dark world
@@WhiskeyNixon pride isn't necessarily bad and i'm pretty sure here it's meant in a sense closer to "dignity" without going out of his way to embarrass him. If he realized his mistake he would be plenty embarrassed by himself
I think the initial officer could arguably get an F+ or D- grade after learning he’s in training. Also hearing how he communicates with the confronting officer is hopeful for me because he asks questions and is trying to clarify things… hopefully he keeps asking the confronting officer cause that guy is great!
Dun matter if he's in training... what the FUCK is he doing on the streets enforcing the law!? It's like taking a medstudent and allowing them to go do surgery before even becoming a Resident.
@@kinagrillhands on training is also how you learn, definitely should have a more qualified officer with him that’s actually in charge tho
@@kinagrill how tf else are you supposed to learn to deal with the public if you don't go out and get to deal with the public. Also, he's not out there alone. He's probably just finished with his official parts of training or towards the end of it where they're giving him a longer and longer "leash" or whatever. Other officer did a great job of talking to him there. He didn't just say "no, what you're doing is incorrect, go fix it". They had a conversation. The rookie officer was made to actually think through parts of it for himself. There is hope in this clip despite the mistakes and how much it sucked for the kid and his parents in the moment.
You know what? I have never seen a D on any of his videos 🤔 lol
Im actually shocked that a police officer called out another police officer especially to his face, it’s usually left up to the court, or one officer wont get involved in another officers arrest.
Good on him!!
If it really shocks you, it shows how one-sided your knowledge of cops is.
@@bbbbbbb51 Well when you witness cops standby while one of their own murders a man that can happen..
@@bbbbbbb51 yeah no
A cop will never challenge another cop when there are regular civilians around. Amongst each other it happens often. If they'd do it with civilians around it would diminish their authority.
It happens all the time we teach rookies
The A+ cop has good tact.
Winston Churchill once said “
Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip”.
Your videos are so informative. It’s nice to see that it’s not just empty “entertainment” but a learning experience. I appreciate that.
That kid and his dad were great! A+ for both of them! He didn’t even attempt to lie or talk any crap to the officers. More respectful then I probably would have been as a grown man. Not that I’m proud of that.
Right
And look at the outcome. Vastly different than a lot of them.
@@pab1381 Vastly different he was on the verge of being arrested and having to go thru hoops and hurdles to have it cleared off of his record because of police incompetence. The video shows that encounters by civilians are friendly it's usually the ignorant officer escalating the situation.
@@NOLA2LSU yeah but nobody was shot or anything serious. That's what I'm saying.
@@pab1381 oh ok, for sure I agree with you I myself had a similar encounter this year and was also immediately released.
I feel this also highlights the need for more education or continuing education with LEOs.
love the way the other cop questions him on the arrest and sets him straight
Hell yeah!! ...and he asked him in a way to let the other officer figure it out himself, but when he didnt, that was when he gave the advice of what he would do.
And he still will continue to do the same shit
He was a class act, he handled the correction like a pro. He didn’t belittle the other cop he quietly corrected him.
All of that is good. Yet it does not change the fact that the kids civil rights were violated. The correct response from the cops would be to initiate a federal investigation into his actions.
@@SlyTreeRat You are right, We are so litigious these days that people are taught not to admit fault or apologize when they should.
It’s always good to see a cop with common sense. How they put that kid in cuffs when he literally wants to go get the bill of sale is beyond crazy
How are rookies supposed to learn right from wrong if others don’t have the balls to teach them. Was very refreshing.
Proper training
They should know right from wrong before they even take that fucking badge and put it on their shirt.
@@XeroMaverick exactly proper training
Is the key. We need it to be longer than the few months it takes to become a cop.
They tend to be trained by bad cops like the one who grabbed a female officer by her throat when she tried to deescalate.
@@patrick7247 While I agree, having been one for 30 years, you might consider that they get paid shit (less than school teachers) and risk their lives for it. The job only requires a high school education as well (I had a degree). You're not gonna get many cops trained if you expect them to spend a year doing so. But the biggest problem is you're expecting a $40,000 cop to be a million dollar lawyer, it can't happen. A high school graduate willing to risk his life for $40k is not generally capable of learning what a lawyer knows.
This is a beautiful teaching moment for everyone. The kids 14 He's a big kid but he didn't act erratic. The dad was chill. One person made a really bad call but somebody called them out on it and a legitimate way on a level in which he could understand.
Wonderfully said bud! I agree!
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But also remember you can be chill and still get violated don't sleep on police.
You can't tame evil! What did your mother teach you?!
@HD’s Quality It is a rare scenario, indeed. Hoping a couple of police academies might use footage as an example...highly doubtful.
The "confronting" officer is a gem! Law enforcement needs more like him. He should be assigned as a neighborhood ambassador. An absolutely terrific officer.
I agree but my concern is did he only intervene because the other office was a rookie? Would he have done the same thing with a peer or superior? Unless & until he would do it no matter the rank of the other cop, then we are not yet to where we need to be.
In my opinion, making ALL responding officers responsible to grade ALL other responding officers behavior for each & every encounter is needed. This should be done pseudonymously (who voted & how can be determined if need be but not without cause or to determine if someone voted out of bad faith). Those that stand around silently with their hands in their pockets and say nothing are not good officers either. Putting in a 360 grade is a way for good officers to see & report bad ones in an indirect way thereby weeding out bad ones with a simple "it's been the concerted opinion of your fellow officers this week/month/year that your overall performance ranks lower than our professional standards allow, so you're being retrained/suspended/terminated."
This can only be done because of BWC and the ability for an officers to have to give on-the-record justifications for their poor grades if/when called upon to do so like in cases where bad officers team up to grade a good cop low as retaliation. So the grades are mostly private but not always private and are subject to review.
If chain-of-command is not doing things like this on a regular basis they are not doing a good job. When they supervise people with guns & badges more & better accountability is the only way forward.
@@yrp237 why not just praise the guy for the actions he displayed as opposed to all that speculation?
I agree, moreover, I think his demeanor in HOW he addressed it was spot-on. He delivered his disagreements in a non-judgmental way and applied real-life comparisons for the rookie. In short, one of his responses was like: "Hey, these are real people and this is real life, the kid is doing reasonable things that any other person would do. I've done stuff like that, we all have."
@@yrp237 We can only go on what we know.
He deserves his stripes
Watching your videos give great practice for people going to law school. You give such a thorough breakdown of the law. Great content.
Also those of us who don't know much or know minimum stuff like "LAWYER". I've learned more in the past two days by watching these than in my entire life atp lol
Massive shout out to the kid, can't believe he's only 14 he did better than a lot of adults. That was a masterclass on how to handle yourself; don't say much, stay calm, and comply with "reasonable" requests. Same with the dad too. NC native myself born and raised I even know the area he's in made me very proud of the ppl in my state. Completely agree with your assessment of both officers and I was happy to see one of my native officers get an A+.
Yeah, but apparently he was still "running his mouth" and nearly got arrested.
@@ZesPak I Know, Right? Funny how a persons "interepretation" of a situation can drastically color others percepetion. I'm sure the Senior officer got to watch the video and llikely would have concluded that child was not "running his mouth" and was just providing valid information that the officer could have used in his investigation. As soon as he was let go, the kid went DIRECTLY to the Bill of Sale, did not pass go or collect $200. He knew exactly where it was and was denied the chance to make his case.
I also notice how easily the kid complied, even with NO explanation from the cop for what reason he was being detained. This kid probably saved his own life since the cop already had judged him a criminal rather than suspecting him.
@@Metqa really shows you the importance and effectiveness of body cams. this is the greatest thing the American police force has ever done for the public, makes everyone accountable with hard evidence that can't be interpreted or faked (unlike police reports, even if they are written to the best of the officers ability of what you think happened to what actually happened).
I’m sure his parents taught him from a young age what a black male must do when encountering police to prevent being harmed or killed. 💔
Reasonable requests...?
"but officer I can prove my innocence and show you the bill of sale"
officer: "haha not with your hands cuffed behind your back you won't"
Right??? I thought that the whole time he got his dad randomly looking around the house like man what
The kid didn't even know where it was, don't play that
@@tylerjohnson3195 That's what bootlicking does to your brain, it turns it into mush.
@@tylerjohnson3195 lol he finds it at the end , low attention span?
@@tylerjohnson3195 so why not give him a chance to find it
Putting him in handcuffs in the back of the car so he cannot prove his own innocence.
Before doing any investigation.
It's almost like you're looking for an excuse to cause an argument.
It did seem like it would be easier to simply let him go into his house and get the documents himself. Clearly they were cooperating and there is no reason to not allow him to find the documents
Or....they’re pointing out exactly what happened
@@gandalfthegreen1827 Proof? Who needs proof. We don't need no stinking proof.
16:00 The A+ cop even has a see-through mask designed to help the hearing impaired read lips. This is one empathetic cop! A++
The detaining officer had the suspect guilty before he even asked him a question.
Facts Is you gotta prove I'm guilty first then cuff Me plus he is a minor Smh 🤦🏾♂️
Most detaining officers*
@@maxpayne_860 the courts prove guilt, not arresting officers (this isn’t Judge Dredd), the officers detain, take statements, and decide whether to arrest or not , and if so then get them to court.
@@Duros360 Yes obviously the courts have to prove your innocence but the boys in blue are the enforcers so if they don't know laws & what they're really enforcing by time you're arrested and going to court you're already guilty at that point (in there eyes).
@@maxpayne_860 oh totally :)
Sorry I read your comment without seeing the nuance
The channel forgot a major factor , the kid buys, fixes and resells bike, and has a facebook business page that advertises this, he bought the bike from a random to fix it and resell it! With no knowledge of it being stolen , same as a local dealership could ...This was a major factor in this video , sucks it was missed , the kids a legend to buy and fix bikes at 14 years old , Id literally shed a tear if my kid was so ambitious and skillful at 14!
Ahhh thank you, that's the missing link in my head... Why would someone buy and sell a bike within a 2 week window...? Because they fix and sell them... That makes sense, so there IS a 3rd party that actually stole the girl's bike and sold it to Malcolm, that was gonna bother me, thank you, I hope they catch the real thief now.
Yeah he's pretty savvy flipping bikes like this. Hope he's making some good money as it's well earned.
I kind of gathered that when he mentioned he had a lot of bills of sale. It definitely would've helped the story knowing why.
Thank you! This answers all the questions.
This is why vin checks are ALWAYS advised. Good on him for doing his thing flipping bikes love to see someone making moves for themselves
Why in the hell are officers still in training allowed to be on their own rather than being assigned a seasoned officer to ride and train with? This in itself says so much about WHY there is a lack of training.
The young man, was very well behaved and showed absolutely no disrespect to any of the officers so I am not sure why he couldn’t be given a grade for his behavior.
He was just supposed to bring back donuts but tried to bag a 14 year old the vets were like throw um back rookie wheres my bearclaw
I was thinking the same thing.
Because at some point the officer needs to go out on his own, he likely was shadowed in the beginning, and just didn't learn enough
Scary stuff he could have wrecked that kids life through his inexperience he just seems like he was hunting for a reason to arrest should definitely be shadowing the officer who corrected him can you imagine if other professions just let rookies go at it unsupervised
Why? Same as any other job. Shortage of people. Problem is these are far more sensitive and dire matters. So do you choose not enough people that are experienced enough? Or do you try to keep people in the role and hope they learn on the job? Catch 22. The mentors on our sites are supposed to look put for the new people...or they could be maimed or die. You don’t leave a new person alone. This is crazy.
Love the videos of good officers correcting the bad ones! Do more of those and I’m trying to search for more of those on your channel! Would love to see anytime someone of authority makes things right and corrects the bad actions and behaviors of other bad officers.
Just this kid’s body language when the cop approaches him tells you that cuffing him and putting him in the back of the car was far beyond unnecessary. He wasn’t rude or confrontational. Gave no indication that he wasn’t going to cooperate. Absurd.
Yeah, that's the problem I had with this. The officer didn't even know 100% the motorcycle was stolen at that point. He confirmed it afterwards. There was no need to cuff suspect who was cooperating before all the facts were in.
@@bmoremusic4768 That’s how you turn a nice respectable young man into a cynical asshole like myself. There’s just no need for it. Good on that other officer for coming and calling him on it. Only police can act like this and still keep their jobs. It’s absurd.
@@GarrettLoganGriffin Lol! Aww, well you can turn back, can't you? The fact that you're able to not focus on the negative and even appreciate the good in the other officer AND commend him, says good things about you. You haven't officially gone to the dark side, yet. Lol. The world could always use more ppl who can see and appreciate the good in ppl. I hope you decide to stay on our side :)
@@cynderella5222 I’m still on the good side. I’ll always highlight good over bad, and always approach a situation with a positive outcome as the goal.
@@GarrettLoganGriffin Awesome! See? You're not cynical, you're probably just realistic about things, which is how we have to be. But ultimately still on the side of good. Well, I see my work here is done. Off to save another from the dark side. Up, up and away I gooo! (Dang, where's an emoji with a cape when ya need one?!) 😜🤣
I love how the confronting officer put his own experience in perceptive instead of being a legal robot. Officers that use there own life experience are keepers!
Yeah, the other officer just don't know how off-road vehicles are handled is all.... he was just treating it as though a on the road registered vehicle is all due to his lack of experience.
You can bet he didn't even know that a bill of sales is literally one of the only options people have in the transferring of off-road vehicles.
Dude was just inexperienced in how that shit works is all.... bet he is knowledgeable about it now though. lol
The "race card" being pulled is just ridiculous, I've had the same happen to me a couple of times when I used to buy- sell- trade ATV's and it's always a newer cop that is clueless.
@@510Redneck The type of vehicle is irrelevant. Even if it were a whole ass car, or even a boat, a bill of sale is a legitimate defense.
But the most important part of this is that the cop put handcuffs on the kid before even verifying the serial number.
Definitely!
@@510Redneck same as soon as I heard the race shit I was like no nigga just wasn’t trained well on his code. Mistakes happen, but this time it didn’t cost someone life and a rookie cop learned from it a mistake that he’ll most likely not commit again.(hopefully) (I’m black btw) race isn’t always the problem most of the time it’s bad training
@@510Redneck that cop was shitty tho dude. He was actively profiling and using that to justify his actions and not the facts
I have a friend who was arrested for "stealing" his own car. He had reported it stolen, it was later found and returned to him. However, the police never updated their records even though they are the ones that found it. He went to renew the license plate later that year and was arrested there.
This literally happened to me. Car was stolen out of my driveway, called the police. They pulled the guy over the very next night but still hadn’t entered it as stolen, so it sat in the impound for 27 days until I called every impound in the twin cities. Then I notified the police, got it out of impound for more than the car was worth and found myself handcuffed and in the back of the squad for stealing my own car.
Dude I was selling a car me and my dad bought and because I was not the first name but the second I got arrested for selling a vehicle that was not under my possession even though the law states immediate kin as in wife, kid, or brother lol so it was not illegal even if I was selling my dad cars lol
I hope you all sued for compensation.
Wow smh WTH?
@@Chewychewychoochoo haha qualified immunity laughs at all of them and let’s the cops go ahead and keep doing this to people. End qualified immunity.
To the officer that challenged his colleague, I salute you sir 🫡 You did what’s right, even in the face of one of your peers. You wanted to make sure things were done the right way and no one’s rights were violated. Thank you for not approaching the situation with a guilty until proven innocent mindset just because the bike was physically there. And also to the father and son you guys handled yourselves outstandingly. I hope you got your money back from the sale.
I love how the confronting officer told him to think about how things happened in real life and pointed out how he detained him before he verified the vin number
The arresting officer was in training so I think that is why the confronting officer took that approach. I really don't like the title of this video because it is assuming that because the officer in training made a really bad call that it makes him a "bad" officer. But, I also did not like the way the officer in training said that the kid in custody was "running his mouth". That type of rhetoric was unprofessional and tells me these "new" officers need better training.
@@8bert9 you’re right I think that had a lot to play with their interaction(between the training cop and the other one) but he did make a bad call because he said the kid was being arrested in the code before he even checked the vin and the kid was trying to tell him I have a Bill of sale for it but he wasn’t all that interested in it till after he put him in the car
@@mightguysseconddisciple8670 I agree and after watching the video a second time the officer in training, even after he was told to "basically" use a common sense approach by the other officer, was still thinking of charging the kid in juvenile court. Go to 14:28 in video for details. So, it makes me think that this officer in training did not learn anything from this encounter.
@@8bert9 I can only agree with the second half of your post. I think the most important thing that needs to be addressed with this cop is character, integrity, honesty, you know. All the things he was missing when he became a cop. He needs to be fired or closely watched, or taken off the street altogether. He's dangerous.
@@8bert9 yea he was still thinking about it till he saw that he couldn’t get the other guy to back him but yea hopefully he smarten up but yea I don’t think he learned anything
I give that kid an A+. He was calm and explained what he needed to. He didn't fight the first cop and let him do what he wanted.
How could you not rate him? Kid or not he did what a ton of kids his age WOULDN'T do.
Yes. The young man remained calm and respectful. He is an example of what all good citizens should do in a similar situation.
The problem is that a KID handled himself more maturely and honest then a GROWN UNIFORMED OFFICER. Why as the public do we have to hold ourselves to a standard the law doesn’t?
Exactly what is he talking about he cant rate him? Kids an A+ all day long
If that was the case then he shouldn't have received a A+. He would have been around a C for the fact he carried himself in a very professional manner and no one credible would say on the other hand. But, very specifically he did make errors from what he shouldn't have done. One, he gave information to the officer more than what he needed to do. that give them more information to find inconsistencies to justify doing more and being valid in there acts. Outside of his name and address there shouldn't have been anymore information offered. Two, again giving facts about information that wasn't there which again could give credible evidence to act in a certain way. Not saying he was wrong again of how this played out but saying he handled himself perfectly was wrong
the kid complied which should had done , right or wrong. on the other hand, the cop should get fired for not knowing his job.
If an experienced officer starts asking an officer in training questions like: "Are you sure you fully understand what the consequences of your actions will be?", you know the rookie F'ed up. As soon as the second officer showed up the encounter became an extended version of "Hey newb, what the heck do you think you're doing?"
The problem I see is, that the „rookie“ is Not fit for service but is in charge of things like that. Normaly you have to know the law before you enforce it. When I look on policing in the US I doubt that this is a case very often. Not just when it comes to „rookies“ but especially when it comes to veterans.
Not only a great cop, a great teacher. That is exactly how you teach people to think and reason for themselves, the Socratic method. But this is not a rookie problem. This is a bad character problem, a man with no morals, lying to superiors without blinking an eye. One of those who became an officer to impose his will on citizens and neither the logic or correction of an experienced superior could convince him otherwise. There will be no restraint on his actions on citizens for the next 30 years until retirement...
depends. a judge will always side with blue. we saw different things. i saw a young cop. u saw a badge roll up. imo, on the take. he let him do it.
@@tonyb7615 I agree with you, this is a clear case of a rookie problem where the rookie act before knowing what's going on. The rookie clearly never consider any other scenario and assume guilt upon arrival which is dangerous to both the citizen and his colleague.
You are doing a great and very necessary job with your channel. I hope every police department take notes from you to greatly improve their services to the public.
Yeah and hows that gunna look? Police force had to be trained by random youtuber who has no experience what so ever. People say such stupid things
@@danep1053 If you think that this RUclipsr is clueless, then your brain lacks common sense.
The confronting officer was brilliant! So calm friendly and made suggestion without being pushy. Honestly so great.
Yeah, he handled that like a well trained psychiatrist.
Good leadership skills
He didn’t order him, just led him to the right conclusion
He had to approach the arresting cop that way because he knew he was dealing with an ego maniac that will get butt hurt very easily and my lose his mind if he does not get to arrest this kid.
When he said that the kid was running his mouth, that’s so inappropriate and gross! How can a grown man lie on a kid like that who gave him no problems? 😡
He answered politely, gave his account without any rude or smart ass remarks! To say he was running his mouth was such a vile lie ; it makes me think he was racially profiled by officer! Not ok! 😡
@@irmarocha7809 yea im not one to jump to race in every arrest involving a minority race, but this really did seem racially motivated. Like even if the cop thinks he's not racist, he probably isn't self aware enough
That was dirty !! He was running his mouth " it was an out right LIE"!!!!
“Running his mouth” doesn’t always mean being disrespectful especially around those parts of North Carolina. He probably meant the kid squealed on the guy who sold it, especially given the rest of the officers sentence.
He didn't mean being disrespectful. He meant that the kid was spilling facts without being questioned. He wasn't questioning the kids about those things. The kid was just telling him things. Poor choice of words but I get what he meant.
Props to the second officer who pulled up essentially asking “the fuck are you doing dude? This guys 14….”
That young man handled himself with total class! Thank goodness for the officer who stood up and did the right thing! The rookie really wasn’t interested in the truth at all, just wanted to get some kind of arrest.😔
If this officer is still in training, where is his FTO(Field Training Officer/Sgt)? Why is he out there by himself as the LONE RANGER?
His supervisor was busy queueing at a Dunkin Donuts sale.
@@aabidamn 😂😂
@@aabidamn 😂🤣😂😂🤣🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
It called learning on the job , ALL by yourself , and hope everything goes well, just like convenient store cashiers , ( worried )
They may have a “shadow phase” of training where you drive alone but another training officer is very close by.
The second officer was on point with de-escalation. Mad props
Still part of the problem, fuck em
@@PiceaSitchensis ...You’re part of the problem because, you don’t want peace. You thrive on division, then complain about it.
@@PiceaSitchensis who hurt you baby? Tell me😂
@@Batya-Grace ignore this person, it's just a troll. Stupid people will forever be stupid till.
the first did a good job too- took the young man (who did sell a stolen bike even if it was unknown to him) into protective custody to prevent any escalation and sort out the situation
When you said “this could have been avoided if the officer gave as much trust to the boy as he had given the complaining party.” That’s like a revelation. Especially this day and age when you can get the cops called on you by any old Karen for any reason.
I mean their bike was stolen and he was in possession of it
@@pfclex6737 yeah, I realize that. But my point is the whole point of the video, you never really know what’s going on until you talk to both sides. I wasn’t calling the owner of the bike a Karen, I was expanding on the point. Communication is key.
@pfc lex did you listen to the video? Obviously not!
@@pfclex6737 Just because someone is in possession of stolen property doesn’t mean they’re the one who stole it. They might not even know it was stolen. You have to investigate further than “This person is in possession of stolen property, they must have stolen it or know it was stolen.”
That mistrust is *_ingrained_* in the policing of Black people.
I also would like to mention how calm his father stayed. It started with the officer doing wrong but this could have escalated on so many levels if just one of the other person's acted differently.
The good cop pointed out and corrected the bad cop’s behavior in the best way possible. No insults, no disdain, just polite suggestion. Fortunately the bad cop was at least in control of his emotions and did take feedback from his peers.
I love A+ cop's eyes, he nails the "really? think about it" non verbal cue's perfectly
Adrian F. Long A++++ Well said :)
I know every time I steal a motorcycle, I leave it parked in front of my garage in plain view.
You'd be surprised, man. I lived across the street from a house full of revolving door crooks; they would commit a relatively severe crime once or twice a week and the police would be over there. One day, one of the crooks in the house stole a sportbike, and he wrote a fake license plate with sharpie and paper on top of the real plate, and parked it right on the lawn, the police came by and recovered it literally within hours.
Though I think probably you would find out that this is not that, when you talk to the kid, who seemed to be clear thinking and polite (not the kind to do something that stupid).
@SaintFredrocks I like stealing the "bill of sale" when I steal dirt bikes........ smh cop was an idiot!
Lol
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@@angelj923 😂
I have to take the steps to write this officer a letter of appreciation. This should be sent to every department for training purposes. Amazing officer. I’d back the blue if they were all like him.
Not saying you stole it, we’re just gonna treat you like you did. Don’t feel like we’re doing to you exactly what we are doing.
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Haha this is like guilty until proven innocent.
I wouldn't say "we" here, only the cop who cuffed him seemed to think that way. The other two cops recognized it was a bad call and discussed that before one of them explained to the detaining officer what he did wrong.
Ehhhhhh. It was a stolen bike. There was a crime, he did possess stolen goods. The issue isn’t “Is he a criminal?” Technically he is. The issue is how the officer in training handled it.
It’s fun to hate 100,000 cops because of the few we see on TV, but this dude was just wrong. Not a dick, just unlearned at his craft.
@@derekstiles5801 what video did you watch? Your post is the perfect example of cherry picking information to fit your agenda. Just buying something stolen doesn't make you a criminal if you didn't know or have reason to believe that it was stolen. He is actually the victim of a crime
You can tell the initial officer was being trained just by the way the questioning officer was speaking to him. That good cop needs to be promoted
A cop in training shouldn’t be allowed to go out in public and police civilians as if they are seasoned veterans of the law, period.
@@nickfanzo that's how they train you...how else are you going to get field training? Lol
@@yeti186 training exercises. In the military they do training exercises all the time before they go into combat.
@@PhillipG34 military and police are different. Some academies can be military like but the job is different. Can't compare the two
Edit: also academies do exercises and scenarios. Just because you train doesn't mean you'll always do it the same. You don't know how you'll react in a real situation till you're in it
@@yeti186 they are different and u most certainly can compare the 2. For starters army for example have MPs (military police) they get more training then normal cops. Thats also not including their basic training( boot camp) which every solider must complete. But besides MPs every soldier has their basic training and advanced training before they actually do their job. Cops should be held to the same standard since they have military type weapons. I mean idk about u, but I would like the cops to know what they're doing and be trained accordingly to do their job correctly.
To the officer who had any common sense, thank you very much! We need more people like you.
Been binge watching your videos and i love all of them. I commend you going depths to research each topic and
It would be amazing to have update of the videos where the cases were undecided or was on going.
RESPECT! To the two cops that questioned the detained. Some people ask why there's so much hate towards cops. Many times it's because of experiences like this one. This is this kids first interaction with cops. He sells motorbikes and some asshole hustled him.
At the point that handcuffs get put on me I officially hate that cop permanently.
@@thenightingale7405 even if it would be justified?
@@jootan91 but it wasn't justified. And The nightingale is specifically responding with "hate that cop" to a comment that mentions "because of experiences like this one".
He bought a bike off Facebook I’m assuming for very cheap and tried to sell it 16 days after it was stolen? But that’s not suspicious?
@@jootan91 Only if I knowingly committed a crime.
You can tell the boy is a little panicked, but he handled himself pretty well overall. I'll give him an A
ass was the father - its better to put possible suspects in a safe controlled situation to prevent escalation and possible dumb moves by citizens or cops- no arrest no charges - the kid did have a stolen bike so the 1st officer was justified to take control until it can be sorted out
@@bikeman1x11 I go with the veteran officer decision.
@@bikeman1x11 No, the veteran officer explained it to the officer in training. I guess you didn't look at the video nor hear what was said, and why he was wrong.
@@bikeman1x11 i didn’t see the father say a word? But this control mentality is where things could have very easily gone south real bad. If the kid panicked, acted up, and got shot, what would you say then? This attempt at safe control was worth it? The 14 yo kid deserved it because he didn’t comply? So his punishment is death?
@@TheBooban exactly so cuffing putting in a car makes that less likely- he was selling a stolen bike - so the situation was handled well- the kid could have gotten agitated if he were loose
The Confronting officer is the the type of officers we need, hats off to him.
Confronting Officer is a blessing to humanity in general let alone law enforcement. God bless him.
The Officer challenging his colleague did a tremendous job and the right thing👍🏿😎. More of this please
It was more of a senior officer challenging an officer in training. They don't do anything like that when it's a partner or an officer on an equal level.
Why is he in cuffs? He is a juvenile, he is cooperative, respectful, and he isn’t going to run. This is just unnecessary!
1.) How do you know he is not gonna run. 2.) He is a suspect for a crime (at the time). Definitely should be cuffed but he shouldn’t have been treated with some of the disrespect he was treated with.
@@rainyisgreen2k422 disagreed, literally put in the order to arrest him, detaining mightve been fine, but at the same time he was gonna take him to the station
But most people don't understand every second every time you encounter an African-American teenager or an adult got to try to criminalize them
This cop is in training, he didn't know any better and the other 2 cops weren't thinking straight or else they would have stopped him sooner.
@vw live The cop wasn't racist. That doesn't mean the actions of the cop were justified.
I don’t consider the cop a bad cop because once another more experienced cop told him he was wrong he corrected the action it was a misunderstanding for sure but I wouldn’t say racially charged and it’s important to know the difference.
"FAAAR TOO OFTEN ARE OFFICERS COMPLICIT IN THE MISCONDUCT OF THEIR COWORKERS" well said
Name a case.
@Torrence Kingman Name a specific case.
@@frankcabanski9409 seriously?
@@TheRealRunningwolf1980 You still haven't named a specific case.
@@frankcabanski9409 pretty sure the court is going to determine there other officers in the George Floyd case were complicit. There's your case
The cop that talked to the arresting officer should be promoted 2 ranks. He's to good to loose
Nah one rank.. two ranks and he would be in the office.
Knowing how corrupt things are, he probably got desk job or transferred
The other officer was like dude.....come on.
No he wasn't, they were training him, the guy said at the end finally that he was new. You even hear him ask if the officer made an error, then closes the car door to discuss it in front of him so to not embarrass him. This is just a hit piece for a new cop with amazing trainers. What's even worse than bad cops are people who try to frame every cop in as negative a light as possible. Even this great encounter is reported as "shit cop saved by lucky hero cop" as if that wasnt what the training was about.
@@davidjohnson8655 When they mentioned he was in training I was like, okay cool he can learn from this moving forward.
The officer that stopped the overzealous trainee from ruining the young polite 14 year olds life deserves to be the head of that department!!! He is genuine and honest! For that, thank you sir! If only there were more cops like him, but the sad thing is the majority of seasonal cops have the ego attitude of the trainee and they are training the others to destroy people's lives with their ego driven mindset!
"I'm not saying that you stole the vehicle, but i'm gonna have you in handcuffs in the back of my cruiser despite the fact you say you have evidence that you didn't actually steal this and I have no reason to put you in handcuffs"
Ikr
What if that bill of sale is fake? Is the stealer's name written on it as the seller? The money he bought it for can be deducted as expenses to reduce his income tax. Also the original owner has to refund him the money back and then try to get her money back from whoever stole her bike so he still wins and she loses.
@@frv6610 then it goes through proper procedures. This is not proper procedures. And since it's a what if scenario, it doesn't apply. The law and our rights as human beings is innocent until proven guilty.
Why is an officer “in training” out dealing with the public by himself??
Did you watch the video or are you just saying whatever you want? Because did you notice the 2 other cops with him?
@@Paztacos Where I'm the video did he have two officers with him before he called in a 10-95
@@denofpigs2575 ummm please watch the video again there is someone with him from the start
@@Paztacos The time stamp is at 59 seconds exactly when the narrator mentions there were two cops. I just never saw the second one in the body cam, hence the confusion.
Also , it’s good the cops let him make that mistake. Letting him make that mistake will hopefully prevent future mistakes.
Maybe that cop will go on to use that in training others? Of course it would have been better if the guy learned the right thing in the first place. That poor kid , and I hope the officer who confronted the first officer got some praise . People say he shouldn’t be praised for doing his job ... but I disagree.
My upmost Respect to that other officer for being informed and having the bravery to make it known what's the proper action!!!
The kid and his dad were super calm under the circumstances. Both deserve A+
If I lived in that area I would gladly pay for an entire nights worth of drinks for that confronting officer. It took courage and brains for him to confront a fellow officer and advocate for both the law and that young man simultaneously. Officer, I salute you.
I'm like 25 minutes from there and I agree
What was refreshing is that the good cop knows the law
Stop patting him on the back for literally doing his job. That's half the problem.
We should pat people on the back for doing their jobs well. That is literally how you encourage people to KEEP doing their jobs well, reward the good and punish the bad.
Mayor wants to “move forward,” meaning sweep the incident under the carpet. If it was his kid he’d be singing a much different song.
Probably a Republican mayor.
If I were that family I'd move somewhere else!
@@BarrieBusesandTrains except you can easily see he is a Democrat, nice job being a divisive douche for no reason though.
Exactly!
I'm from fuquay that's exactly what happened
@@BarrieBusesandTrains Mayor John Byrne is nonpartisan. As Thezerowulf said, nice job being a divisive douche.