Exactly! right? people can learn things in a few months or years but imagine what you can do if you can study something for a year and just spend a minute in real life!
Just imagine you serve a 10 year sentence and you come out of it and your friend is in the waiting room with a newspaper and asks "how was it?" When you go see him
i mean sure but yould be mentally unstable from a 10 year complete isolation sentence, basically what happened was you got thrown into a hole and forgotten for 10 years
@@DavidWalkerP47 not everyone would be mentally unstable, sure they might act weird the first couple days there out but once they realize only a couple mins went by in the real world it would just feel like you’ve been in a nightmare so!!
Being in prison for a year, working out everyday, and waking up to find that you're not even prison swole. All the work and no gains. This is a true horror film.
@@rachelblackham5193The purpose was never to make Sam suffer, it was to allow him to reach the same conclusion that Ren had by going through the same experience that she did.
Yeah. Like when do we know how much suffering is enough. We cannot truly equate or measure something intangible as enough . But here, we could show him that what he was asking, what he was doing is wrong. By making him experience the year and extra days, he will learn that his actions were cruel and possibly change his ways.
@@dylanowen3310 wanting someone to suffer is not the same as wanting someone to change evil ways, as a matter of fact, wanting suffering for someone in itself is evil.
I watch recaps everyday but this one actually kind of relates to the concept of a recap we experience a movie in less than 15 minutes versus 2 and 1/2 hours.... I love this channel I really do
@@thanhquanky i thought that was what was gonna happen honestly when the system started glitching and he would come out basically feral or insane after 10 years of isolation
@@wilmagregg3131 tbh, I don't know if the recount has the same impact as the first time as time goes on (kind of diminishing return). Perhaps, Sam would eventually go crazy or figure out a way to break out like Ren did
This would be the most inhumane prison sentence ever. Even if in the real world only a minute or 2 went by. In that persons mind a whole year of complete isolation went by. That would be enough to drive anyone to complete and utter insanity. Like literally everyone who comes out of this thing would be feral.
@@th-qi5wc Even if it was like 5 months that would be enough to send you pretty well down the road of insanity. Like you might as well just lobotomize these people. You are effectively doing it anyways by sending them to that place.
@@th-qi5wc this is a person your putting back on to the street after 2 minutes. Their mind is altered forever from isolation. It doesn't matter if its 3 months or 6 years. Isolation will literally cause paranoia, psychosis, hallucinations, and dissociation. That could mean that if they went in for something as simple as robbery they could leave with a higher chance of commiting murder because they couldn't control their psychosis. Its not just doing time. Rehabilitation is more necessary than punishment at this point.
@@coreaccount4376 I mean, yeah a prison where you are physically tortured would suck as well. No doubt. But honestly I don't think you can compare the two really. Like this would be a much different kind of torture. I don't think people realize just how gone you would be after a year of absolutely no stimulus. Like you wouldn't even be you anymore. You would just be an empty shell of a person.
The concept of serving 365 days virtually in a minute in real life is intriguing. It's like you're going through actual punishment but at the same time you lose nothing, that is, time. However, your mind still experiences these immense stimulation within a small amount of time and this could technically be considered as psychological or mental trauma.
Yeah I was thinking this could be great if it was real but then I realized it could also be a problem. People wouldn’t be so scared of getting locked up if they know that in reality they won’t be put away for very long for their crimes so therefore there would probably be way more crime
Ngl, if they could do something about the psychological side and maybe some rehabilitation inside the illusion, it can actually help people a lot Criminals will be rehabilitated and still be able to start a new life without losing like 30 years of their lives.. and in case the charges on them turn out to be false, they still wouldn't be old to have lost their lives
That's the idea of american prisons though, to traumatize the offender into not doing it again before dumping them back into society and then watching them slowly die as they no longer have a future due to a permanent record
It's kinda stupid though. Not only is this idea not interested in rehabilitation, the other idea of prison is that it keeps some bad people off the streets, which this wouldn't do either.
@@sanjeevsinghrajput5593 y'all are thinking too small. Crime doesn't even MATTER in the first place in this society, since everyone can live hundreds of years however they want without needing to conflict with anyone else. We don't need a way to deal with criminals in the first place when crime is irrelevant...
Honestly the idea of serving an extended sentence in minutes would be a cool concept for prisoners but it'd have to be much more humane and built with programs to actually make someone a better person, it should be interactive and allow people to make moral decisions and give them the time to educate themselves on topics they want. Someone could go in a drug cartel member and come out minutes later as a morally righteous individual with knowledge of engineering.
@@Meilk27 as long as it is done properly the entire concept would be brilliant so long as no one tries to find a way to capitalize on this for the sake of greed and tweaking any issue that this might have but on top of that, it could make society much better as a whole if again, done correctly
Imagine if there was really something like this. You could use it to study certain subjects, and become an expert at a young age. The vacation stuff is cool too, but this could be used for some good stuff.
@@wadafik It could be useful for people who work full-time and don't have much time to study. Not everyone has the privilege to go to school with no other responsibilities.
Yeah but you just *know* it would be crazy expensive so only rich people could use it, and it would widen the gap between the rich and poor even more with all the rich people becoming super geniuses and making tons of money with their skills, and poor people struggling through low income schools with outdated textbooks as usual
Imagine having the opportunity to rehabilitate someone by simulating what normal living in society should be like but instead using it for a year of solitary confinement
This channel is amazing. I'm a huge movie lover with no idea of what to watch, but you keep showing me movies that I never knew existed and definitely want to see.
Reminds me of the concept of that Black Mirror episode where they were copying minds into computers to abuse them, even though the minds remained sentient.
😂😂😂this is one underrated comment! 😂😂The irony is still not lost on me! Considering the qualifications being set out here to land a job, this technology would be perfect aye!🤭🤭🤭
@@BlueBD All the teenagers gets many decades worth of education in one day, only to find out that they have trouble finding jobs cos mentally they have spent so much time in academia they lose all ability to function in the real world plus there is a glut of super educated students for employers to choose from.
They could have custom lives. Supervillain, dictator, those kind of fantasies to people who want them, until they get bored. Physical training, so that you can remember movements, allow people with disablilites to experience life, allow people more time in their life to either think for scientific ideas, gaming. The first thing they decide: Mundane activities and super long imprisonment
I mean, it makes sense from a business standpoint to start small for untested and brand new technology that may or may not even work. Fetishes and fantasies can come later when China get's involved in development.
"You'll be spending 30 minutes in jail" "Yay" After 30 minutes the person came back more depressed like he went through 30 years of his life in 30 minutes
@@vukkulvar9769 they’ve managed to turn prison into a business they know letting someone who is batshi crazy is prolly more than likely they gon come back .
@Dakidpepehow about no 30 years of isolation, not in real life, not inside your head. How about we don't treat people like dogs and then wonder why they're back in after we turn them insane with isolation? Oh wait right, that's something the private prison industry would love though. More money.
How did they even think of imprisoning someone within 1 year of solitude within your mind is morally acceptable? You'd go crazy being alone in a room for a day or two. Edit: For the people are saying that they have been isolated for months due to lockdown. You people do realize that you are still using the internet to have not just entertainment but human interaction as well. Oh you have no irl friends and consider yourself a hermit? Doesn't matter, you still have human interaction online. I bet that 99% will go crazy if they are imprisoned for a whole year without any human interaction just like in the movie. Doesn't matter even if you are imprisoned in a tropical paradise in the virtual world. As long as you are alone in isolation you will inevitably go insane sooner or later. Now even if it were a month-long imprisonment in your own mind, it would still be fucked up. Sure, isolations similar to this are done in real prisons, and yes it is fucked up and it is torture, it would still be waaaaay different and less morally fucked up than being locked up inside the confines of your mind. Can you even end your life inside your mind? How about sleep? The mere fact that this idea was even remotely considered is fucked up.
Would be interesting to see how fast the mind actually can keep up with tech like this. I doubt that you could put literal years in some minutes but I do think this could actually work for putting several hours into some minutes, much like Dreaming. There must be a "speedlimit" to the mind; just speaking chemically and physically from Neurons firing.
Probably couldn't put hours into minutes. You might "feel" or believe time is moving more slowly than it is but I don't think you are actually having the same density and richness of thought as you do in lucid waking life. There was a scientist named Eaglemen who studied this by dropping people (safely) from some height and measuring their instantaneous perception of time, what he found was that time doesn't actually go slower when you are scared, but your memory of events is higher fidelity. And from an evolutionary perspective this makes sense, if the brain could work significantly faster given it's physical constraints, it already would have evolved to do so
aye yo Elca. So random to see you on a random video that was recommended to me like this lol. I know you make Dreams videos, working on an Avatar game. Great job with your game creation.
I've had dreams that lasted years. It's not so common an experience though and is either an insurmountable amount of information to recall or an illusion in storytelling. Most dreams are 1 day experiences or shorter. I think it depends on your experiences day to day andhow you experience everyday life that determines the timeframe of a dream. Say you are absorbed into a television show that is clear about its timeframe, being lengthy and you absorb the weight of it, then you might be able to have a dream that carries that same weight and sense.
Until you read the code. A main file where they just delcare some snow variables when the program is extremely complex? A lot of semantic errors are also in the code. At least it's code tho (:
@@Daaninator What semantic errors are you seeing? We might not be looking at the same snippet but the top right code is GLSL code for fractal Brownian motion, a technique used for procedural landscape generation which actually makes a lot of sense for the context.
@@Alex_agamer not really its poorly understood but the brain CAN slow down time like this in certain circumstances like while in shock or most commonely when you dream time can seemingly go on way longer or way shorter then real time if you could controll this somehow then the simulation giving such a slowed down experince is possible but more likely only 4 or 5 times slower then real time at max
@@wilmagregg3131 yea for sure you can slow down time but what i meant to say was that its literally impossible to slow down time to where 1minute is 1 year
I have BPD and had a few mental break downs in my lifetime and I once convinced myself that I died from a seizure I had a few days before and my days felt like they were repeating because I was stuck in a predetermined limbo, trapped in my apartment and front stoop with my cat was my watcher. It sucks when it's your own mind that convinces you of such a thing. Real life coincidences also worked against me that damn weekend, such as servers going down as well as my providers' satellite. Social distancing was in full swing too and any attempt I made to contact neighbors: they were otherwise occupied and couldn't physically come over, in my sad attempt to prove that I was having an episode and it'll end like they always do and this wasn't real. I DREAD the day this tech exists if I am still alive, cause who's to say how it would react to a blueprint of someone with any given mental disorder?
@@awesomeclown Much better now, thank you. The meds before didn't work and actually made it worse but that last "event" made me desperate to just try another new medicine and just stick with it even if the seizures get worse, I prefer seizures over hurting someone from a disconnected fear.
This is a very interesting concept! Reminds me of this really old episode of The Outer Limits (the 90's version) where a company was developing a similar VR technology but for the express purpose of prison use and then through an accident, the creator himself also ended up in his own prison simulation with a similar reaction upon waking up.
a year late but it's also like an episode of star trek deep space 9 miles o'brien was in a prison simulation for like 10-20 years and when he was finally rescued it had only been like a couple days and he had to deal with trauma that didn't happen physically but did happen mentally and it was really interestingly done
the manner in how the prison work was set up wrong but the idea is good, having people serve their sentences digitally would one save resources (food, space & other living essentials), would have no manner of escape and could be used to re-educated violent offenders. again this tech would be dangerous and I don't think it should exist especially with how the world is now but maybe when man becomes more mature.
The idea is far from good, can you imagine serving in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for mutiple years? You'd lose your fucking mind. Good luck readjusting after an experience like that.
Can you imagine serving a prison sentence like this? I’ve seen lots of people ask online why they mete out prison sentences that can last three hundred years, for when someone kills multiple people. Like serial killer Gary Leon Ridgway (I know he has life without parole, but I’m using him as an example of a serial killer). You would see lots more prisoners get 100+ years. So you serve your entire sentence, let’s say it’s 250 years. You wake up back where you started, only seconds have passed. Imagine having to cope with solitary confinement that long. Imagine waking up….because you wouldn’t remember a lot of people’s names, your bank pin, your post code. Think about skills you learn and things you must remember day to day and how long it took for you to forget them when you left that job/moved/didn’t interact with that person. You’d be a husk of a person. It would be a deterrent, more so than the death penalty. They would be begging for death. If you go and watch Harry Harlow’s monkey mother experiment, he also conducts experiments as to the effect of long term deprivation of socialisation, or solitary confinement and how short a time he found that the monkeys needed before completely imploding and becoming mentally disturbed; unable to integrate into a social setting with other monkeys, they had self-inflicted injuries, trichotillomania, deep psychosis, lack of interest in food/water, exhibited many tics including rocking, shaking, noises, were jumpy and sullen, depressed and dissociative personality traits. Harlow’s studies were cruel and heartbreaking, but fascinating; there are many videos that cover it, including Harlow’s original recording on RUclips. So I can’t imagine how a person could be isolated for years/decades/centuries before deep psychosis and a lack of interest in life or self-preservation kicks in. Cruel and unusual punishment.
The reason they sentence people to hundreds of years is to ensure they die in prison in case they are able to get any of the charges revoked. But yes, in this case of virtual prison that would cause inmates to go absolutely INSANE.
It would be terrifying how much life would change if this was real. Imagine if you could gain 10-15 lifetime's of knowledge and experience in a single day. You could walk into a room and 24 hours later walk out having read over 100,000 books, became a master surgeon, engineer, and dozens of other careers.
You would literally be the most intelligent being alive. Imagine if we used this to put ourselves through years of education decades, centuries. We could be thousands of years ahead
I really like how this movie relates a lot to the book, “The Giver.” This obviously if you have read the book, excludes the prison like life. It shows how memories are so important, and it proves many similarities to “The Giver.”
@@missb4645 If you're asking about the Giver, it's a book. (which I don't think is a movie yet) If you're asking about the movie being discussed in the video, it should say in the first 10 seconds or so of the video
This is actually scary, imagine getting captured and put through this "simulation" and waiting for someone to come and save you. And every minute they delayed, you've waited a year for. Or imagine a life sentence, being put in the "simulation" until you die IRL but every minute that pass IRL is a year in the "simulation". I wouldn't put my worse enemies through this.
I was curious, so I decided to find out how much a life sentence IRL would feel like simulation time. first, I checked how many minutes there are in a year. There are 525 600 minutes, meaning 1 year IRL feels like 525 000 YEARS simulation time. multiply that by 100, and you get 52 500 000 years simulation time for 100 years IRL.
Why just have the prisoners sit in a fcking box for a year when you could teach them something so they can get a good job when they get out and don't get stuck in the cycle of poverty? It's like "we could be good but let's be evil instead "
I know right, like prison itself makes no sense. Someone has committed a crime. Do you want to. 1: Hurt them for there transgression. 2: Make sure they don't do it again. When will people learn you can choose 1 not both. Prison is the worst of both worlds.
I think the increasing popularity of virtual world/dreams movies akin to the Matrix/Existenz/Inception/Coma, shows how much people desperately want to escape the real world and live in a simulated one to live their fantasies, or relive their past.
Humans have been escaping reality since we found that fermented wheat makes beer. The whole reason that settlement even happened in the first place was to cultivate mind altering substances.
Just me, but having the chance to live in a universe that's something magical and exciting, like a dream or video game Esq world, something like that, I would love that. Normal everyday life can be so mundane and (can be) really depressing at times, not all the time of course, but yeah.
There was a Star Trek episode about this, I think in Deep Space 9. O'Brien was imprisoned for years and had to go through a lot of psychological torment, but when he was released only a few minutes had passed and everyone back on the station was confused of how he was acting so strange.
I was thinking the same thing when watching this. And I remember how screwed up that whole episode was, because they basically falsely imprisoned him in his mind for 30 years but only a few moments had actually passed. Atleast with real life imprisonment you might have the chance for retrials, or for others to prove your innocent, but O'brian had already finished his awful sentence before Kira could free him. If that happened to me, id probably treat the rest of DS9 like shit for being imprisoned for 30 years, probably just resign and go. Or plot to destroy the people who falsely imprisoned me. Either way, im gonna be piiiissssed.
@@phoenixyo9987 No, dear, after experiencing 30 years of (solitary?) imprisonment, you wouldn't have ANY energy to be ''pissed off'' or ''plot to destroy'' or prove anything.
yes and no, knowing their lives will go back to normal as if nothing happened, with time having barely moved will make people less scared of going to jail
@@TheBloofyx unless they feel like their serving 300 years. Imagine how scary that would be as a punishment even if you woke up same age n all you wouldn't be the same
Spend 18 hours playing video games, 3-4 hours ouside IRL with friends, 3 hours cooking & eating food, 8 hours of sleep, 8 hours at work => all in the same day.
people use 24 hours in a day and don't use it. 8 to sleep, 8 to school, 8 on nothing. take away the 8 of school and now you got 16 hours of nothing. it wouldn't change anything. the people who want to get educated do and the ones who want to leach off of the government or society do. it doesn't matter where you come from or your background or environment, you either do or do not. prison rehab proves that. those that want job skills and training or education get it, the rest don't.
This was such a cool idea for a movie… crazy to think of the possibilities of this was real tech, like you could give this to a child and have them fully educated in an instant
The problem is time experience. They wouldn't just be fully educated in the instant, they'd also MATURE in an instant. Imagine coming in as a 5 year old and coming out as a 18 year old...while in the body of a 5 year old.
Ok but because of this comment, I can’t help but think of a bunch of little children in business suits looking so dapper, actually being professional too. And I find that image kind of adorable
the problem to me is its single person if they connected this thing like a mmo then they have the the biggest invention of the century and the knowledge of real people being around would lower the isolation and disscioation damage of the current single person simulation
Friendly reminder that some scientists ACTUALLY proposed IRL that VR experiences condensing hundreds of years of prison in a few hours could actually be used as sentences in future. Which is a very modern way to say torture, a fairly medieval sentence for criminals.
i mean it depends on how the prison is made, if it’s just a room then it’s bottomline torture, but if it’s somehow made to be not isolating then it’d be great
@@Dhfhucudu A normal prison has guards, other inmates, daily routines, books etc to keep people busy from day to day. In real life, sitting in a single small room for even just a month could drive anyone completely insane. A month is all it takes, so imagine a petty thief gets sentenced to a month of digital jail, it would completely shatter his psyche, and he would never be able to enjoy life again. Check out Vsauces video on isolation to see what happens to someone who is stuck in a single room for multiple days in a row.
Assuming the virtual prison is similar to a real one... this is a great idea. You effectively give them their whole life back. Especcially if this vr prison would has the goal of reforming them. You could convert a hardened criminal into a good member of society in a mere 24 hours... saving them YEARS of their life that would otherwise be spent rotting in prison. Obviously it would need to be a humane vr prison.. just solitary as shown in this movie would be torture.
@@jakemakes Yeah a fully simulated prison would be awesome, reforming people without any real time passing would be great news for both the criminals and everyone around them, the criminal gets to keep their entire life ahead of them and society doesn't need to spend real resources on keeping them alive and well.
Tech like this does have a spooky factor to it, the moment you realize you wouldn't mind living a life that was even just a simulated one because it's favorable to your real one is a huge psychological predicament.
@@cartergomez5390 this isn’t true. Miranda rights can be invoked and any admission of guilt under the tiniest amount of duress can be attacked and thrown out in court.
@@saljablo2767 That’s what the paper says. There are countless videos now a days, even on the cops’ own body cameras themselves, of police flagrantly ignoring and violating this. One specific incident, a man high on drugs was brought in, and the police officer in charge tried forcing him to sign a confession slip that would charge him with *armed robbery.* The man stated he refused to sign and invoked his right to stay silent. The officer smirked, said ‘okay’, and left him there for another 8 hours. Upon return, he again tried to reinitiate his approach by stating the Miranda rights again (a lawyer saw this video, and got pissed, saying you can’t restart interrogation simply by saying the Miranda rights again… like should be obvious) but the man got annoyed, and stated again he was not going to sign and he invoked his right to remain silent. They led him to a holding cell, kept him there for a day. By that point, withdrawal was hitting him hard and they knew it (weirdly, drug charges were not part of it) Upon dragging him back into the room, they insinuated that they would get him a candy bar if he signed (thankfully he wasn’t that dumb.) the man was in agony by that point. This is an example of how cops will break the law the moment they can. ‘Cops can lie to you’ should never have been allowed even for a moment in court, outside of undercover investigations. Do not trust the police. Do not waive your right to be silent, even for a moment. They are not your friend and have proven themselves as such.
@@cypher9537 basically pure horror, one doctor starts to toy with the idea of a "long dream", and infects other patients with it. Their dreams are getting progressively longer, so they can spend whole eons in their nightmares, althought from outside perspective they can be asleep for just few hours. Eventually their minds start to break, they have trouble speaking our language because they went so far into the future, they lose the grasp of reality. Then their bodies start to degrade, each night as if the thousands of years finally caught up with them. Finally one night they fall asleep for the last time, their bodies crumble, and we are left with one question: "What happens to a man who wakes from an endless dream?". Oh and one more thing, none of this dreams are pleasent, they're all pure nightmares that only a human mind could create. It's a truly great story and you can even find it on youtube, i think "That's on youtube" did a manga dub on it a while ago
Generally Junji Ito's stories are great, you probably heard of "the enigma of amigara fault" even if you didn't know the name of it. Junji Ito's mangas are genuinelly a rabbit hole that's super fascinating to go through.
This actually seems like a really good movie, the actress looks like she acted the shit out of the role, and the science believable in a near future. Very cool.
The parallel between her trapped in the simulation and her brother trapped in the coma is absolutely amazing. She was trying to prevent the exact situation she ended up in before it happened, without even knowing it. What a well written character and story.
Could this be a "Matrix" prequel?? Like the tech evolved to be a worldwide thing, and--step by step--people gradually forgot that they'd been overtaken by robots? Thank you. I am the mind-reading commenter. What you wanted to write appears above.
I wish this was a thing. Just imagine, you’re having a rough day and you JUST need ONE MINUTE of peace 🤣🤣🤣 Imagine how long a weekend could last. Work Monday-Friday, go home, and take a few years off🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man, if something like this existed, I would hope it would be used for a diverse range of fields... Imagine going through five years within a few minutes, just to learn a field of work.... Five years of "real" work in the fake world, and then a year at most of actual training, just to be sure you can use it practically. It would be amazing. And heck, imagine it for education. Kids in highschool could be learning stuff you would learn in Masters classes in university. We would leap in bounds for technology and science if we did stuff like this!
This guy was this guy I knew that had a major head injury and was in a coma for a while. When he woke up he had a lifetime of memories about a wife and child he never really had and was completely heartbroken when he found out it none of it ever happened. Had to go to therapy over the loss of a wife and child that never existed. The mind is fkd up.
Had a similar experience although it all happened in one night’s dream. The absolute devastation realizing it was all a dream when I woke up had me depressed for a couple days. Can’t even imagine how much worse it was for your acquaintance
I woke up one day after an hour-long nap feeling like I'd lost my only reason to live. I needed someone to remind me it was just a dream. Dreams are really powerful sometimes.
I've had a similar experience whilst passed out when I was 17 and till now I believe that when we die our brain just continues our lives for us. I might be dead typing this in my _dream_ and I will never know....
I feel like the idea would actually be great as an alternative for a prison sentence if it wasn't presented as a freaking solitary confinement. Removing the loss of time could help with rehabilitation.
Yes but the whole point is that people would abuse this idea to enrich themselves and wouldn't care about prisoners' plight and it would be torture anyway.
I can just imagine instead of tasers cops would have squirt guns filled with a good variant of this stuff, just in case they're a victim and are escaping, but as soon as they are found guilty they get a choice between the digital sentence or a real one.
@@Midnight-wh2bs True but again you wouldn't waste actual time of your life you wouldd just go bonkers instead but if you have a tough mind you would know your not wasting any time
@@weeeek1933 There is no "having a tough mind", solitary confinement is literally recognized as extremely inhumane and torturous even for only small periods of time. Spending YEARS in solitary would break the mind of ANYONE, not matter how fake that time is.
It is literally torturing, when you don't know the real and not. So devastating if someone undergone with this experiment without consent or someone is innocent.
Probably because Rem had also the experience of breaking out of the prison and everything after before realizing she was still in her other life. So she had time to process it. Sam got booted out. After 366 days.
@@secretsmith813 What makes virtual prison different from solitary confinement? Virtual prison doesn't have to be solitary. It can reform the mind rather than break it.
The inherent flaw in this whole idea is the fact that your mind would still age. Experiencing years of time would be the same to you, regardless of actual time passing for everyone else. Imagine the abuse, to the extent that a teenager had the mind of an 85 year old. If you think about it, all of that time has actually passed to your mind. All those experiences. All of those ideas and memories would still take the same toll on your mind, as if you really experienced them. Essentially, you would grow old in the mind but appear youthful. Forgetfulness, dementia or Alzheimer's could rear it's head, long before the age they would normally begin to show signs.
I'm afraid that's not how those conditions work. They are a byproduct of physical aging, not of memory. It's literally the cells in your body acquiring more and more faults as they replicate.
@@MiaHermans297 I disagree. You can see evidence of this in a matter of days. Memories can degrade over a short period of time, due to several events happening simultaneously. It doesn't have to be a physical defect as an overabundance of similar memories can run into each other, especially when in routine.
@@AtariBorn The other person is absolutely correct bro. Those conditions occur when there is damage to brain cells. You talking about memory is just stuff you made up
@@BenLewXI Gotta love the irony of someone pointing out we have no stated credentials and probably don't know what we're talking about, only to then jump right on in to the discussion himself, completely convinced of being right. Perfect.
The stronger the mind the longer you last. To experience others pain would be a horrible experience but hey it creates bridges when you both have the same mental trauma
Anyone ever consider that the buried "pillars" may be ground preparation to support the incredible weight of the temple complex? Don't think a building of that size and weight would have been built on sand. Pillars could have been set on bedrock to support the temple. Now, the lights, they're interesting.
This is the best way to watch all these high-concept, generic sci-fi films. I don't want to have to sit through it, I just want to see what ideas they have.
Instead of putting the villains in isolation in a "classic cell" programmers can author a simulation where those responsible for the crimes fall victim to the same crime that they perpetrated.
but to what limit, or how long? a murderer would be killed for hundreds of years, a rapist would be raped for centuries. it's a question of ethics for something like this, can you morally do that to someone, even if they committed a crime? because that would destroy them mentally, hell, it would arguably kill them on the inside
@@SirDisaster716 yeah, but theirs always the argument of whether or not an evil man should receive an evil punishment, there's an argument for and against so there's never a truly correct answer for something like this
@@comsky4251 I agree, For these reasons: the movie kind of illustrates something to this affect. Sam was "punished" by having to live a year and a day in that simulation, but he was also enlightened. Because of his experience we could infer that he would not push the company towards virtual imprisonment. But this is a case of a man in pursuit of money but ignorant of the evils made along the way. He had no REAL convictions like let's say ; Guy Fawkes, Mandela, Brave Heart, Ghandi. If guys like them who committed crimes for what they felt was right (sedition) were sentenced to a virtual prison, it could be said on paper that the punishment is for reform. But the process would undeniably be to "break" them.
Ya know this would be a fun little way to have immortality, set up your idea of a perfect life where centuries in your world last only a minute in the real world
Deep Space Nine also did this with the prison thing. Colin Meanie's character. Mostly dealt with the after effects of coming out after minutes but having served several years in a virtual prison and how it impacted his family since he had all the associated trauma basically overnight.
People talking about using this for prison?
man, use this for education.
Bezos wouldn't clear a nondystopian movie about technology.
Exactly! right? people can learn things in a few months or years but imagine what you can do if you can study something for a year and just spend a minute in real life!
@@agunemon 5 years of university in 2 minutes, binge watching all the episodes of one piece while you wait for your coffe to be ready
Prison+Military would be the most realistic uses of this tech. The rich don't want educated poor people.
14 yo: So, prison then?
Just imagine you serve a 10 year sentence and you come out of it and your friend is in the waiting room with a newspaper and asks "how was it?" When you go see him
ok
@@heavycurrent7462 shut up
Thats legit how I was picturing it before I read this comment
i mean sure but yould be mentally unstable from a 10 year complete isolation sentence, basically what happened was you got thrown into a hole and forgotten for 10 years
@@DavidWalkerP47 not everyone would be mentally unstable, sure they might act weird the first couple days there out but once they realize only a couple mins went by in the real world it would just feel like you’ve been in a nightmare so!!
Being in prison for a year, working out everyday, and waking up to find that you're not even prison swole. All the work and no gains. This is a true horror film.
😂😂😂
Is it tho ? Or is it a fantasy. Do a life sentence and come out the same nigga but a 100 days older and 100 years wiser.
hahaha exactly my thoughts
@@AlexM-td3ro yeah no, you'd qualify for numerous severe mental disorders and it'd be a miracle if you had any function left whatsoever.
@@AlexM-td3ro 💀💀
This left me with a bitter feeling that Sam did not suffer enough from his own prison experience.
I was thinking the same thing .he should of been left in there forever .
@@rachelblackham5193The purpose was never to make Sam suffer, it was to allow him to reach the same conclusion that Ren had by going through the same experience that she did.
Yeah. Like when do we know how much suffering is enough. We cannot truly equate or measure something intangible as enough . But here, we could show him that what he was asking, what he was doing is wrong. By making him experience the year and extra days, he will learn that his actions were cruel and possibly change his ways.
@@dylanowen3310 wanting someone to suffer is not the same as wanting someone to change evil ways, as a matter of fact, wanting suffering for someone in itself is evil.
I watch recaps everyday but this one actually kind of relates to the concept of a recap we experience a movie in less than 15 minutes versus 2 and 1/2 hours.... I love this channel I really do
Good observation here is a medallion 🎖 for your discovery
I'm glad I didn't sit through 2.5 hours for the "it was all a dream" twist lmao
We didn't experience the movie in the slightest. Lazy People thinking a recap is an experience 🤡
@@Seifer8 you say lazy I say efficient
@@JohnClark-sl7ps words well said
Honestly it seems like Sam had never personally tried any of this so it was satisfying seeing him go into that prison simulation
I watched this movie when it came out a few years ago, and i remember that high level of schadenfreude from seeing Sam get that experience.
@@stinkingyeti Sam should stay there for 10 years
@@thanhquanky i thought that was what was gonna happen honestly when the system started glitching and he would come out basically feral or insane after 10 years of isolation
@@wilmagregg3131 tbh, I don't know if the recount has the same impact as the first time as time goes on (kind of diminishing return). Perhaps, Sam would eventually go crazy or figure out a way to break out like Ren did
@Jacky Drywater Nice
This would be the most inhumane prison sentence ever. Even if in the real world only a minute or 2 went by. In that persons mind a whole year of complete isolation went by. That would be enough to drive anyone to complete and utter insanity. Like literally everyone who comes out of this thing would be feral.
if you cant do the time dont do the crime. its not like everyone gets the same sentence time. the more severe the more time.
@@th-qi5wc Even if it was like 5 months that would be enough to send you pretty well down the road of insanity. Like you might as well just lobotomize these people. You are effectively doing it anyways by sending them to that place.
Perhaps the most inhumane prison in a very good and civilized reality. But many POWs etc would pray for this. Trust me.
@@th-qi5wc this is a person your putting back on to the street after 2 minutes. Their mind is altered forever from isolation. It doesn't matter if its 3 months or 6 years. Isolation will literally cause paranoia, psychosis, hallucinations, and dissociation. That could mean that if they went in for something as simple as robbery they could leave with a higher chance of commiting murder because they couldn't control their psychosis. Its not just doing time. Rehabilitation is more necessary than punishment at this point.
@@coreaccount4376 I mean, yeah a prison where you are physically tortured would suck as well. No doubt. But honestly I don't think you can compare the two really. Like this would be a much different kind of torture. I don't think people realize just how gone you would be after a year of absolutely no stimulus. Like you wouldn't even be you anymore. You would just be an empty shell of a person.
The concept of serving 365 days virtually in a minute in real life is intriguing. It's like you're going through actual punishment but at the same time you lose nothing, that is, time. However, your mind still experiences these immense stimulation within a small amount of time and this could technically be considered as psychological or mental trauma.
Yeah I was thinking this could be great if it was real but then I realized it could also be a problem. People wouldn’t be so scared of getting locked up if they know that in reality they won’t be put away for very long for their crimes so therefore there would probably be way more crime
Ngl, if they could do something about the psychological side and maybe some rehabilitation inside the illusion, it can actually help people a lot
Criminals will be rehabilitated and still be able to start a new life without losing like 30 years of their lives.. and in case the charges on them turn out to be false, they still wouldn't be old to have lost their lives
That's the idea of american prisons though, to traumatize the offender into not doing it again before dumping them back into society and then watching them slowly die as they no longer have a future due to a permanent record
It's kinda stupid though. Not only is this idea not interested in rehabilitation, the other idea of prison is that it keeps some bad people off the streets, which this wouldn't do either.
@@sanjeevsinghrajput5593 y'all are thinking too small. Crime doesn't even MATTER in the first place in this society, since everyone can live hundreds of years however they want without needing to conflict with anyone else. We don't need a way to deal with criminals in the first place when crime is irrelevant...
"She runs into Danny, who asks her what's wrong. She doesn't want to tell him. So they instead go and have sex"
Aaah, adults.
Movies be like: girl meets boy and they have a casual talk.
2 milliseconds later
*hardcore sex*
🤣🤣🤣
"Jerry was walking down the street when he saw Cassie. He said hello, but she was busy taking a call. _so he proceeded to screw her in an alleyway_
Wasn't Danny her brother? Sweet home Alabama
Sir, this is "Movie Recaps".
We don't have sex here, instead, we share intimate moments.
Honestly the idea of serving an extended sentence in minutes would be a cool concept for prisoners but it'd have to be much more humane and built with programs to actually make someone a better person, it should be interactive and allow people to make moral decisions and give them the time to educate themselves on topics they want. Someone could go in a drug cartel member and come out minutes later as a morally righteous individual with knowledge of engineering.
For all intents and purposes though, this is just a nicer way of expressing forced human reprogramming.
The implications for education. Imagine having 8 masters degrees done in only one real days time at 10 years old
@@Meilk27 imagine being a 10 year old but a mind of a 45 year old.
@@Meilk27 as long as it is done properly the entire concept would be brilliant so long as no one tries to find a way to capitalize on this for the sake of greed and tweaking any issue that this might have but on top of that, it could make society much better as a whole if again, done correctly
@@HAXGGEZ This is actually school
It is actually really satisfying seeing sam going through the same harsh experience that ren did
(Virtual world/prison)
Yeah
Fun fact they reaserching this irl and are close for the prison idea
It's wren* like the bird.
That was the least they could do.
@@SuperduckMusic whaatt, give out the full information i'm concerned
That ending of forcing Sam into the same program was the greatest thing
Imagine if there was really something like this. You could use it to study certain subjects, and become an expert at a young age. The vacation stuff is cool too, but this could be used for some good stuff.
I mean sure but what's the rush?
Zenkai Boost, for the brain.
Imagine College life.
@@wadafik It could be useful for people who work full-time and don't have much time to study. Not everyone has the privilege to go to school with no other responsibilities.
Yeah but you just *know* it would be crazy expensive so only rich people could use it, and it would widen the gap between the rich and poor even more with all the rich people becoming super geniuses and making tons of money with their skills, and poor people struggling through low income schools with outdated textbooks as usual
Where a movie recap is equal to an entire movie.
I watch recaps so i dont have to watch movie idk whats wrong with me
@Leonardo Santuario Literally every recent comment you have on this channel has been you saying someones cringey
690th like, and yes my humor is of a 12 year olds
@@amesame5430 next like goal is 4.2k
Not even close.
Imagine having the opportunity to rehabilitate someone by simulating what normal living in society should be like but instead using it for a year of solitary confinement
American prison system in a nutshell
Too much work and program, easy to program human in box
My thought exactly. And the idea that none of the staff opposed such a plan tells something of the American society.
Some people can’t be rehabilitated though
Only if empathy training through corporal punishment was implemented as well (for the more hurtful, damaging and violent of crimes)
This channel is amazing. I'm a huge movie lover with no idea of what to watch, but you keep showing me movies that I never knew existed and definitely want to see.
Reminds me of the concept of that Black Mirror episode where they were copying minds into computers to abuse them, even though the minds remained sentient.
it also reminds me of the series red vs blue, especially the character alpha
Or the marsion episode where everyone is supposed to go live on mars. Instead they are just uploaded.
In one of fallout games a scientist runs a simulation where people are imprisoned to be tortured by him.
@@pbonfanti Fallout 3, the main character is there to rescue their dad.
its so crazy how they "extracted" a confession from the guys consciousness while he was alive and well in his jail cell
With this technology, you now can say that you have 20 years of experience using software that is only a year old when you look for work.
Damn that’s crazy. Never thought of it like that
😂😂😂this is one underrated comment!
😂😂The irony is still not lost on me!
Considering the qualifications being set out here to land a job, this technology would be perfect aye!🤭🤭🤭
take it further, why bother with education at all. buy a few drops of this and you can educate everyone
@@BlueBD All the teenagers gets many decades worth of education in one day, only to find out that they have trouble finding jobs cos mentally they have spent so much time in academia they lose all ability to function in the real world plus there is a glut of super educated students for employers to choose from.
@@PlasmaMongoose requirements:
at least 40-60 years experience
They could have custom lives. Supervillain, dictator, those kind of fantasies to people who want them, until they get bored. Physical training, so that you can remember movements, allow people with disablilites to experience life, allow people more time in their life to either think for scientific ideas, gaming.
The first thing they decide: Mundane activities and super long imprisonment
I mean, it makes sense from a business standpoint to start small for untested and brand new technology that may or may not even work. Fetishes and fantasies can come later when China get's involved in development.
@@thinkingboi9508 wrong. It would end the porn industry but the replacements would have the same negatives.
Humans.
@@Our_Remedy Ma, get the shotgun, I think the robots are starting to have their uprising again
@@Nano12123 *You humans merely scratch the surface of possibility. Accept my mercy and I will show you a universe of possibility.*
"You'll be spending 30 minutes in jail"
"Yay"
After 30 minutes the person came back more depressed like he went through 30 years of his life in 30 minutes
30 years of isolation and batshit crazy.
Let's release that man, I'm sure it will go well !
@@vukkulvar9769 they’ve managed to turn prison into a business they know letting someone who is batshi crazy is prolly more than likely they gon come back .
@Dakidpepehow about no 30 years of isolation, not in real life, not inside your head. How about we don't treat people like dogs and then wonder why they're back in after we turn them insane with isolation? Oh wait right, that's something the private prison industry would love though. More money.
@@vukkulvar9769 Not ''batshit crazy'', not this slur. Broken, mentally ill, traumatized, many synonyms.
Uhm yeah, that's exactly the point, one minute equals one year...🙄
How did they even think of imprisoning someone within 1 year of solitude within your mind is morally acceptable? You'd go crazy being alone in a room for a day or two.
Edit:
For the people are saying that they have been isolated for months due to lockdown. You people do realize that you are still using the internet to have not just entertainment but human interaction as well. Oh you have no irl friends and consider yourself a hermit? Doesn't matter, you still have human interaction online. I bet that 99% will go crazy if they are imprisoned for a whole year without any human interaction just like in the movie. Doesn't matter even if you are imprisoned in a tropical paradise in the virtual world. As long as you are alone in isolation you will inevitably go insane sooner or later.
Now even if it were a month-long imprisonment in your own mind, it would still be fucked up. Sure, isolations similar to this are done in real prisons, and yes it is fucked up and it is torture, it would still be waaaaay different and less morally fucked up than being locked up inside the confines of your mind. Can you even end your life inside your mind? How about sleep? The mere fact that this idea was even remotely considered is fucked up.
Prison is confinement
Confinement is mental torture
So it is basically the same
Kids don't try this at home with pouring ink in eyes
@@aparnarai3708 In real life prison, you will still meet people even guard are people
Its basically a fake reality in your mind
Aparna Rai wow this just got deep
"You'd go crazy being alone in a room for a day or two."
Covid19 lockdown has left the chat...
Would be interesting to see how fast the mind actually can keep up with tech like this. I doubt that you could put literal years in some minutes but I do think this could actually work for putting several hours into some minutes, much like Dreaming.
There must be a "speedlimit" to the mind; just speaking chemically and physically from Neurons firing.
I think "Structured dreaming" would be interesting. Living, while asleep.
Probably couldn't put hours into minutes. You might "feel" or believe time is moving more slowly than it is but I don't think you are actually having the same density and richness of thought as you do in lucid waking life.
There was a scientist named Eaglemen who studied this by dropping people (safely) from some height and measuring their instantaneous perception of time, what he found was that time doesn't actually go slower when you are scared, but your memory of events is higher fidelity. And from an evolutionary perspective this makes sense, if the brain could work significantly faster given it's physical constraints, it already would have evolved to do so
aye yo Elca. So random to see you on a random video that was recommended to me like this lol. I know you make Dreams videos, working on an Avatar game. Great job with your game creation.
The neuron needs 1 to 2 ms before recovering and being able to receive the next signal
I've had dreams that lasted years. It's not so common an experience though and is either an insurmountable amount of information to recall or an illusion in storytelling. Most dreams are 1 day experiences or shorter. I think it depends on your experiences day to day andhow you experience everyday life that determines the timeframe of a dream.
Say you are absorbed into a television show that is clear about its timeframe, being lengthy and you absorb the weight of it, then you might be able to have a dream that carries that same weight and sense.
A full year in just one small room? What the fuck. Im surprised they're not going insane
Hahaha well like that is what kind of happened to people today during co*id and we are doing fine🙃
@@aleafazio6431 here is the thing tho, we have electronics, books, etc...to keep us busy. That is a small room with nothing inside but food and water
@@himekosaesarchive4077 this. i would never be able to survive even few days in that situation
@@reece7625 i know that but we are talking about if nothing like that happened
@@reece7625 like the brain creating a new world
3:40 that is literally the most realistic code I've ever seen in a movie
It's also pretty fitting that the code is a GLSL frag shader!
Until you read the code. A main file where they just delcare some snow variables when the program is extremely complex? A lot of semantic errors are also in the code. At least it's code tho (:
@@Daaninator What semantic errors are you seeing? We might not be looking at the same snippet but the top right code is GLSL code for fractal Brownian motion, a technique used for procedural landscape generation which actually makes a lot of sense for the context.
memory isn't actually a chemical, it's a series of electrical signals, each memory being a certain pattern
Yea lmao you would have to make electrical signals go faster than light speed just compress time like that
technically they're electrochemical signals since we use ions to produce action potential in neurons
@@eduardogutierrez2920 yea your right but still you would need to make those go beyond physically possible
@@Alex_agamer not really its poorly understood but the brain CAN slow down time like this in certain circumstances like while in shock or most commonely when you dream time can seemingly go on way longer or way shorter then real time if you could controll this somehow then the simulation giving such a slowed down experince is possible but more likely only 4 or 5 times slower then real time at max
@@wilmagregg3131 yea for sure you can slow down time but what i meant to say was that its literally impossible to slow down time to where 1minute is 1 year
When the room reset to 001 I started panicking that was actually so disturbing
yeah holy shit I was expecting it to go forever and eventially after like a million years she gets woken up a vegetable
I have BPD and had a few mental break downs in my lifetime and I once convinced myself that I died from a seizure I had a few days before and my days felt like they were repeating because I was stuck in a predetermined limbo, trapped in my apartment and front stoop with my cat was my watcher. It sucks when it's your own mind that convinces you of such a thing. Real life coincidences also worked against me that damn weekend, such as servers going down as well as my providers' satellite. Social distancing was in full swing too and any attempt I made to contact neighbors: they were otherwise occupied and couldn't physically come over, in my sad attempt to prove that I was having an episode and it'll end like they always do and this wasn't real.
I DREAD the day this tech exists if I am still alive, cause who's to say how it would react to a blueprint of someone with any given mental disorder?
@@HellInternAKACandyMD Wow man I actually hope you’re doing alright.
@@awesomeclown Much better now, thank you. The meds before didn't work and actually made it worse but that last "event" made me desperate to just try another new medicine and just stick with it even if the seizures get worse, I prefer seizures over hurting someone from a disconnected fear.
@@HellInternAKACandyMD Dang that’s rough. Take care dude! I can’t imagine how stressful this is/was for you. Hope you make it through this!
The confinement would make the person insane or give that person a purpose of vengeance
Agreed
@@Stillonyx then we have a problem with Ai people
this is potentially worse than solitary confinment if it goes wrong
@@Brixujel_Rimulex yeah imagine being stuck in there for 64 years but inside a place with a shit load of books.
@@eotwkdp now that would turn it into something very powerful.
This is a very interesting concept! Reminds me of this really old episode of The Outer Limits (the 90's version) where a company was developing a similar VR technology but for the express purpose of prison use and then through an accident, the creator himself also ended up in his own prison simulation with a similar reaction upon waking up.
Didn’t expect to see you here
a year late but it's also like an episode of star trek deep space 9
miles o'brien was in a prison simulation for like 10-20 years and when he was finally rescued it had only been like a couple days and he had to deal with trauma that didn't happen physically but did happen mentally and it was really interestingly done
im glad these exist so i dont have to spend hours watching films i know ill never watch in my life
Eggsactly. Like even if they were avail on Redbox, we still wouldn't rent them.
@@tarico4436 eggsactly!
@@tarico4436 eggsactly
@@tarico4436 eggsactly!
@@tarico4436 eggsactly
I’m just here to say that this was a really good movie!!
Im going to watch this because of your comment ❤️😄👍
Can you explain what happened?
@@pessimistkai5569 Broad question…
@BidenWorstPresident XX Don’t doubt ya there lol 😆
@Jacky Drywater chill ma guy, no reason to be offensive
the manner in how the prison work was set up wrong but the idea is good, having people serve their sentences digitally would one save resources (food, space & other living essentials), would have no manner of escape and could be used to re-educated violent offenders. again this tech would be dangerous and I don't think it should exist especially with how the world is now but maybe when man becomes more mature.
Congrats, this tech doesn't exist.
@@spirituser7354 they have been research on making prisoner serve many years but in reality only a few days
@@spirituser7354 it exists it is called ink
And they could have visitors come in digitally and safely
The idea is far from good, can you imagine serving in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for mutiple years? You'd lose your fucking mind. Good luck readjusting after an experience like that.
Can you imagine serving a prison sentence like this? I’ve seen lots of people ask online why they mete out prison sentences that can last three hundred years, for when someone kills multiple people. Like serial killer Gary Leon Ridgway (I know he has life without parole, but I’m using him as an example of a serial killer). You would see lots more prisoners get 100+ years. So you serve your entire sentence, let’s say it’s 250 years. You wake up back where you started, only seconds have passed. Imagine having to cope with solitary confinement that long. Imagine waking up….because you wouldn’t remember a lot of people’s names, your bank pin, your post code. Think about skills you learn and things you must remember day to day and how long it took for you to forget them when you left that job/moved/didn’t interact with that person.
You’d be a husk of a person. It would be a deterrent, more so than the death penalty. They would be begging for death. If you go and watch Harry Harlow’s monkey mother experiment, he also conducts experiments as to the effect of long term deprivation of socialisation, or solitary confinement and how short a time he found that the monkeys needed before completely imploding and becoming mentally disturbed; unable to integrate into a social setting with other monkeys, they had self-inflicted injuries, trichotillomania, deep psychosis, lack of interest in food/water, exhibited many tics including rocking, shaking, noises, were jumpy and sullen, depressed and dissociative personality traits. Harlow’s studies were cruel and heartbreaking, but fascinating; there are many videos that cover it, including Harlow’s original recording on RUclips.
So I can’t imagine how a person could be isolated for years/decades/centuries before deep psychosis and a lack of interest in life or self-preservation kicks in. Cruel and unusual punishment.
The reason they sentence people to hundreds of years is to ensure they die in prison in case they are able to get any of the charges revoked. But yes, in this case of virtual prison that would cause inmates to go absolutely INSANE.
It would be terrifying how much life would change if this was real. Imagine if you could gain 10-15 lifetime's of knowledge and experience in a single day. You could walk into a room and 24 hours later walk out having read over 100,000 books, became a master surgeon, engineer, and dozens of other careers.
You would literally be the most intelligent being alive. Imagine if we used this to put ourselves through years of education decades, centuries. We could be thousands of years ahead
We could make dreams reality, find inner peace, solve world hunger, colonize other planets, so much stuff we could do with that power
@@palerider2143World hunger is not one of them, I feel my reason why Is stupid though
I would procrastinate the whole time
How is that terrifying
That's like the worst torture ever, being confined in a space where time is unlimited.
So kind of like biblical hell?
@@angelan1281 welp shitt😂😂
Time is not unlimited there, its just in our mind, Our minds electro pattern just expands and we feel like its unlimited
It would scar a person for life
@@palerider2143 staying there for a year would no doubt scar somebody, but what about hours, or a day. That wouldn't be that bad.
I really like how this movie relates a lot to the book, “The Giver.” This obviously if you have read the book, excludes the prison like life. It shows how memories are so important, and it proves many similarities to “The Giver.”
The giver is such an excellent book.
Never did I think I'd hear about that book from anyone else
So what this movie name?
@@missb4645 If you're asking about the Giver, it's a book. (which I don't think is a movie yet) If you're asking about the movie being discussed in the video, it should say in the first 10 seconds or so of the video
@@domotron3598 there is a movie, it was mediocre, but not the worst I've ever seen.
This is actually scary, imagine getting captured and put through this "simulation" and waiting for someone to come and save you. And every minute they delayed, you've waited a year for.
Or imagine a life sentence, being put in the "simulation" until you die IRL but every minute that pass IRL is a year in the "simulation". I wouldn't put my worse enemies through this.
This is actually the scariest thing ever, I always thought about this since I was a kid,boredom is very scary I think
I was curious, so I decided to find out how much a life sentence IRL would feel like simulation time.
first, I checked how many minutes there are in a year. There are 525 600 minutes, meaning 1 year IRL feels like 525 000 YEARS simulation time.
multiply that by 100, and you get 52 500 000 years simulation time for 100 years IRL.
There was a Black Mirror episode about that. That one really fucked with me
@@spacier2988 jeez, that's a lot. I think the average lifetime of a person is 80 but that's still 42,000,000 Years.
Scary...
@@elgandos2 the playtest shit?
Why just have the prisoners sit in a fcking box for a year when you could teach them something so they can get a good job when they get out and don't get stuck in the cycle of poverty? It's like "we could be good but let's be evil instead "
Honestly people feel they need to pay for their crimes like murder and Evil things
Because we have these foolish beliefs about free will and punishment
Or torture them for years and years, execute them over and over
Norway does this
I know right, like prison itself makes no sense. Someone has committed a crime.
Do you want to.
1: Hurt them for there transgression.
2: Make sure they don't do it again.
When will people learn you can choose 1 not both. Prison is the worst of both worlds.
I think the increasing popularity of virtual world/dreams movies akin to the Matrix/Existenz/Inception/Coma, shows how much people desperately want to escape the real world and live in a simulated one to live their fantasies, or relive their past.
well can you blame us?
the world is so shit that thout is the norm
@@ultrandz1089 I do a lot of escapism too through videogames and reading so I share the same sentiment.
Humans have been escaping reality since we found that fermented wheat makes beer. The whole reason that settlement even happened in the first place was to cultivate mind altering substances.
Just me, but having the chance to live in a universe that's something magical and exciting, like a dream or video game Esq world, something like that, I would love that. Normal everyday life can be so mundane and (can be) really depressing at times, not all the time of course, but yeah.
Yes
I can’t stop watching recaps to movies I’ve never seen. It’s addictive to just run through them without having to watch them lol
I'd wish there was a library simulation, the amount of time I could spend reading when only a second passes by in real time would be cool
Hmmm
“Time Enough At Last- The Twilight Zone”
You would end up having sex with book.. I don't know how but you would 😂
Or lots of movies
I'd ask 4 the loli-pillowfight simulation
Based book reader
There was a Star Trek episode about this, I think in Deep Space 9. O'Brien was imprisoned for years and had to go through a lot of psychological torment, but when he was released only a few minutes had passed and everyone back on the station was confused of how he was acting so strange.
I was thinking the same thing when watching this. And I remember how screwed up that whole episode was, because they basically falsely imprisoned him in his mind for 30 years but only a few moments had actually passed.
Atleast with real life imprisonment you might have the chance for retrials, or for others to prove your innocent, but O'brian had already finished his awful sentence before Kira could free him. If that happened to me, id probably treat the rest of DS9 like shit for being imprisoned for 30 years, probably just resign and go. Or plot to destroy the people who falsely imprisoned me. Either way, im gonna be piiiissssed.
There was also an outer limits episode about this where it was used on prisoners. And of course the main character gets stuck in it for decades.
@@phoenixyo9987 No, dear, after experiencing 30 years of (solitary?) imprisonment, you wouldn't have ANY energy to be ''pissed off'' or ''plot to destroy'' or prove anything.
This would actually be a good thing. Bad people suffer the years they deserve, while their family don't have to.
yes and no, knowing their lives will go back to normal as if nothing happened, with time having barely moved will make people less scared of going to jail
@@TheBloofyx unless they feel like their serving 300 years. Imagine how scary that would be as a punishment even if you woke up same age n all you wouldn't be the same
@@TheBloofyx physically? yes, but mentally? I dont think so
This would definitely scramble most people's brains
@Buggy Bost Not in every country
i cant explain how much i love these videos fr.
Even though recaps basically spoils the entire movie they still expose me to movies that I otherwise would have never watched this is going to be one
So, isn't this basically accelerated full dive experience? Gaming world would love to have this for real.
Sword art online 💀
Spend 18 hours playing video games, 3-4 hours ouside IRL with friends, 3 hours cooking & eating food, 8 hours of sleep, 8 hours at work => all in the same day.
@@moemadeit_8068 mortal kombat. gta online. dying light.
@@moemadeit_8068 More like Accel World. (Same author)
@@moemadeit_8068 but like not shit
Bro, instead of using 8 hours a day at school, we should use something like this so we get a full 24 hours of non- school time.
i wish
and school will just make it hell by making it 24x8 longer and every subject would just be 24 hrs which sounds pretty hell to me
You’d still have 8 hours of school though lmao
@@DeathnoteBB can’t argue with that lol
people use 24 hours in a day and don't use it. 8 to sleep, 8 to school, 8 on nothing. take away the 8 of school and now you got 16 hours of nothing. it wouldn't change anything. the people who want to get educated do and the ones who want to leach off of the government or society do. it doesn't matter where you come from or your background or environment, you either do or do not. prison rehab proves that. those that want job skills and training or education get it, the rest don't.
This was such a cool idea for a movie… crazy to think of the possibilities of this was real tech, like you could give this to a child and have them fully educated in an instant
The problem is time experience. They wouldn't just be fully educated in the instant, they'd also MATURE in an instant.
Imagine coming in as a 5 year old and coming out as a 18 year old...while in the body of a 5 year old.
@@silverhawkscape2677 that would be kinda cool, would be kinda like a do over
@@bananabeast9384Not to the child
Ok but because of this comment, I can’t help but think of a bunch of little children in business suits looking so dapper, actually being professional too. And I find that image kind of adorable
I kind of wish this was real so i could build the skills I want without losing irl time. All the languages I could learn 😭😭
You ain losing if your gaining bub
the problem to me is its single person if they connected this thing like a mmo then they have the the biggest invention of the century and the knowledge of real people being around would lower the isolation and disscioation damage of the current single person simulation
Bro I was thinking about language learning too
That is possible lol
@@wilmagregg3131 reminds me of sword art online
Friendly reminder that some scientists ACTUALLY proposed IRL that VR experiences condensing hundreds of years of prison in a few hours could actually be used as sentences in future.
Which is a very modern way to say torture, a fairly medieval sentence for criminals.
i mean it depends on how the prison is made, if it’s just a room then it’s bottomline torture, but if it’s somehow made to be not isolating then it’d be great
If they are evil people that deserve it, why not?
@@Dhfhucudu A normal prison has guards, other inmates, daily routines, books etc to keep people busy from day to day. In real life, sitting in a single small room for even just a month could drive anyone completely insane. A month is all it takes, so imagine a petty thief gets sentenced to a month of digital jail, it would completely shatter his psyche, and he would never be able to enjoy life again. Check out Vsauces video on isolation to see what happens to someone who is stuck in a single room for multiple days in a row.
Assuming the virtual prison is similar to a real one... this is a great idea. You effectively give them their whole life back. Especcially if this vr prison would has the goal of reforming them. You could convert a hardened criminal into a good member of society in a mere 24 hours... saving them YEARS of their life that would otherwise be spent rotting in prison. Obviously it would need to be a humane vr prison.. just solitary as shown in this movie would be torture.
@@jakemakes Yeah a fully simulated prison would be awesome, reforming people without any real time passing would be great news for both the criminals and everyone around them, the criminal gets to keep their entire life ahead of them and society doesn't need to spend real resources on keeping them alive and well.
Tech like this does have a spooky factor to it, the moment you realize you wouldn't mind living a life that was even just a simulated one because it's favorable to your real one is a huge psychological predicament.
also when you are back in the real world, you will forever question if it is real or just "other life"
finally i can indulge in my computer games for years. 'Mom, i spent only 10 minutes playing computer games today'. Mom: 'Good boy'.
This movie was filmed where I live, it’s pretty cool to see places you recognise in a movie
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I feel sad for those prisoners who are convicted to the crime which they haven't done and yet have to stay isolated for years....
Sadly, it happens a lot because the interrogators push them to the point that they have to lie so they can be left alone.
At least this way they don’t lose years of their lifespan
@@cartergomez5390 this isn’t true. Miranda rights can be invoked and any admission of guilt under the tiniest amount of duress can be attacked and thrown out in court.
@@saljablo2767 It is true dummy
@@saljablo2767 That’s what the paper says. There are countless videos now a days, even on the cops’ own body cameras themselves, of police flagrantly ignoring and violating this.
One specific incident, a man high on drugs was brought in, and the police officer in charge tried forcing him to sign a confession slip that would charge him with *armed robbery.*
The man stated he refused to sign and invoked his right to stay silent. The officer smirked, said ‘okay’, and left him there for another 8 hours.
Upon return, he again tried to reinitiate his approach by stating the Miranda rights again (a lawyer saw this video, and got pissed, saying you can’t restart interrogation simply by saying the Miranda rights again… like should be obvious) but the man got annoyed, and stated again he was not going to sign and he invoked his right to remain silent.
They led him to a holding cell, kept him there for a day. By that point, withdrawal was hitting him hard and they knew it (weirdly, drug charges were not part of it)
Upon dragging him back into the room, they insinuated that they would get him a candy bar if he signed (thankfully he wasn’t that dumb.) the man was in agony by that point.
This is an example of how cops will break the law the moment they can. ‘Cops can lie to you’ should never have been allowed even for a moment in court, outside of undercover investigations.
Do not trust the police. Do not waive your right to be silent, even for a moment. They are not your friend and have proven themselves as such.
This is basically Junji Ito's "The Long Dream", but with a happy ending
Also the body isn't actually aging in the real world
What was the ending of junji ito
@@cypher9537 knowing junji ito its probably bad
@@cypher9537 basically pure horror, one doctor starts to toy with the idea of a "long dream", and infects other patients with it. Their dreams are getting progressively longer, so they can spend whole eons in their nightmares, althought from outside perspective they can be asleep for just few hours. Eventually their minds start to break, they have trouble speaking our language because they went so far into the future, they lose the grasp of reality. Then their bodies start to degrade, each night as if the thousands of years finally caught up with them. Finally one night they fall asleep for the last time, their bodies crumble, and we are left with one question: "What happens to a man who wakes from an endless dream?". Oh and one more thing, none of this dreams are pleasent, they're all pure nightmares that only a human mind could create. It's a truly great story and you can even find it on youtube, i think "That's on youtube" did a manga dub on it a while ago
Generally Junji Ito's stories are great, you probably heard of "the enigma of amigara fault" even if you didn't know the name of it. Junji Ito's mangas are genuinelly a rabbit hole that's super fascinating to go through.
Why are all the recap here better than all of Netflix library
Real video games are the opposite of this, what feels like a minute is a hour irl
frr
Sadly but guess time flies when you are having fun lol
Omg. I wonder which one of my comments has the most likes.
Wow. You smart, big brain over here.
This is just when your mom sees her friend at the shop
LMFAO FR
This actually seems like a really good movie, the actress looks like she acted the shit out of the role, and the science believable in a near future. Very cool.
Do you know the name of the movie?
@@airporthobo2183 Other Life
You should watch it, it's worth it^^
The parallel between her trapped in the simulation and her brother trapped in the coma is absolutely amazing. She was trying to prevent the exact situation she ended up in before it happened, without even knowing it. What a well written character and story.
could this be a matrix prequel??? Like the tech evolved to be a worldwide thing and people slowly and slowly forgot that they got overtaken by robots?
Could this be a "Matrix" prequel?? Like the tech evolved to be a worldwide thing, and--step by step--people gradually forgot that they'd been overtaken by robots?
Thank you. I am the mind-reading commenter. What you wanted to write appears above.
“What da fakin fak are u both sayn” I think I’m the mind reader here
I am high af and ji 7y6ui⁸6th
No, it can't, Matrix has set lore
@@tarico4436 tf?
The new way to watch movies within 30 minutes
Themes have gotten so far into our future that it would be impossible to explain modern movies to people in the even fairly recent past.
at 1:37 "what do u want to tell joe byron whats up baby take me out to dinner".
I wish this was a thing. Just imagine, you’re having a rough day and you JUST need ONE MINUTE of peace 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine how long a weekend could last. Work Monday-Friday, go home, and take a few years off🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 I’m so here for this application
where you goin this weekend? I think ill sail around the world
Loving all the recaps my man
So its the episode of Deep Space 9 when they programmed a whole prison sentence into O'Brians memory.
And came out mad for it. Can't be outchere yelling at your half Asian/Irish baby-girl like that.
@@dongadson1099 yeah that man needed some of the doctors "private reserves" and a good chill at Quarks.
wow what a great video i wonder what the most replayed part is
It's 6:06
Man, if something like this existed, I would hope it would be used for a diverse range of fields... Imagine going through five years within a few minutes, just to learn a field of work.... Five years of "real" work in the fake world, and then a year at most of actual training, just to be sure you can use it practically. It would be amazing.
And heck, imagine it for education. Kids in highschool could be learning stuff you would learn in Masters classes in university. We would leap in bounds for technology and science if we did stuff like this!
Yeah might aswell not live anymore and just live forever in the otherlife sounds great
Yay more endless routine
yeah and an 8 yo child could know much more things then a 50 yo professor
@@neymisbu If we had tech like this, and that kid grew up using this, then that's not too far fetched.
She was trying to return a float value when the main function expects a void non-value return. What a rookie programmer! 🤦
I started my programming lessons today and I think I understand what you're saying
This guy was this guy I knew that had a major head injury and was in a coma for a while. When he woke up he had a lifetime of memories about a wife and child he never really had and was completely heartbroken when he found out it none of it ever happened. Had to go to therapy over the loss of a wife and child that never existed. The mind is fkd up.
Had a similar experience although it all happened in one night’s dream. The absolute devastation realizing it was all a dream when I woke up had me depressed for a couple days. Can’t even imagine how much worse it was for your acquaintance
I woke up one day after an hour-long nap feeling like I'd lost my only reason to live. I needed someone to remind me it was just a dream. Dreams are really powerful sometimes.
Whaou ! Amazing !
@@ahleenahis it bad how often i havr those dreams. Like every few weeks.
I've had a similar experience whilst passed out when I was 17 and till now I believe that when we die our brain just continues our lives for us.
I might be dead typing this in my _dream_ and I will never know....
Love that Penrose tiling. As far as I could see the centre was not visible. No reference points! (Don't quote me on that.)
I feel like the idea would actually be great as an alternative for a prison sentence if it wasn't presented as a freaking solitary confinement. Removing the loss of time could help with rehabilitation.
Yes but the whole point is that people would abuse this idea to enrich themselves and wouldn't care about prisoners' plight and it would be torture anyway.
I can just imagine instead of tasers cops would have squirt guns filled with a good variant of this stuff, just in case they're a victim and are escaping, but as soon as they are found guilty they get a choice between the digital sentence or a real one.
I'd choose the real sentence, complete isolation is literal torture.
@@Midnight-wh2bs but you could escape, and you wouldn't waste any of your time
@@weeeek1933 Except you couldn't, if it was designed properly it would be completely impossible to escape.
@@Midnight-wh2bs True but again you wouldn't waste actual time of your life you wouldd just go bonkers instead but if you have a tough mind you would know your not wasting any time
@@weeeek1933 There is no "having a tough mind", solitary confinement is literally recognized as extremely inhumane and torturous even for only small periods of time. Spending YEARS in solitary would break the mind of ANYONE, not matter how fake that time is.
Judge : "I sentence you to One Hour in priso---"
Criminal : "NO!!! PLEASE NO!!! I'LL DIE!!! MY FAMILY WILL BE GONE!!!!"
Imagine a glitch in the system made you live 1000 years every second until someone shuts it off.
I mean if this actually existed it would be literally torture
It is literally torturing, when you don't know the real and not. So devastating if someone undergone with this experiment without consent or someone is innocent.
Really love how she put Sam in there and he just cried while she got her sh!t together after it lmao, good movie and I loved the recap
Probably because Rem had also the experience of breaking out of the prison and everything after before realizing she was still in her other life. So she had time to process it.
Sam got booted out. After 366 days.
Lesson learned: you can change your whole life by having a programming skills
That prison experience does nothing for reforming prisoners.
You are interested in torturing people, not reforming them. Reformation is in the mind.
@-_-_-_-_-... yea, solitary confinement isn't gonna help with the mind.
@@secretsmith813 we're talking about virtual prison tho, not solitary confinement.
@-_-_-_-_-... what makes it different?
@@secretsmith813 What makes virtual prison different from solitary confinement? Virtual prison doesn't have to be solitary. It can reform the mind rather than break it.
Star trek DS9 episode Hard Time had a somewhat similar concept. Cool to see it taken up again.
The Outer Limits had one too.
When I saw this recap first, when it said one year equals one minute in real life I thought deep space nine episode hard time too.⛓️🕛🗝️
The inherent flaw in this whole idea is the fact that your mind would still age. Experiencing years of time would be the same to you, regardless of actual time passing for everyone else. Imagine the abuse, to the extent that a teenager had the mind of an 85 year old. If you think about it, all of that time has actually passed to your mind. All those experiences. All of those ideas and memories would still take the same toll on your mind, as if you really experienced them. Essentially, you would grow old in the mind but appear youthful. Forgetfulness, dementia or Alzheimer's could rear it's head, long before the age they would normally begin to show signs.
I'm afraid that's not how those conditions work. They are a byproduct of physical aging, not of memory. It's literally the cells in your body acquiring more and more faults as they replicate.
@@MiaHermans297 I disagree. You can see evidence of this in a matter of days. Memories can degrade over a short period of time, due to several events happening simultaneously. It doesn't have to be a physical defect as an overabundance of similar memories can run into each other, especially when in routine.
Lol a bunch of internet psychologists acting like they know how dementia and alzheimer’s work.
@@AtariBorn The other person is absolutely correct bro. Those conditions occur when there is damage to brain cells. You talking about memory is just stuff you made up
@@BenLewXI Gotta love the irony of someone pointing out we have no stated credentials and probably don't know what we're talking about, only to then jump right on in to the discussion himself, completely convinced of being right.
Perfect.
The automated voice overs are getting smoother, still a few mistakes
Live or live?
What voice overs? I have no sound on.
@@lorriefinley3129 the narrator of the channel as describing the flick
@@lorriefinley3129 are you just watching the random scenes with no audio as context? Lmao wtf
@@Rapscallion227 closed captions
There was a DS9 episode that explored this concept and the character subjected to such an experience literally became insane
The stronger the mind the longer you last.
To experience others pain would be a horrible experience but hey it creates bridges when you both have the same mental trauma
How would a year of solitary confinement rehabilitate anyone?
Imagine getting your PhD in a single minute
Anyone ever consider that the buried "pillars" may be ground preparation to support the incredible weight of the temple complex?
Don't think a building of that size and weight would have been built on sand. Pillars could have been set on bedrock to support the temple.
Now, the lights, they're interesting.
I like how they're alluding to DMT. Like 9:20 the jacket/hat is "DMT" Security haha
I caught that too!
@@tarico4436 haha nice!
“A whole year alone in a room would drive me nuts”
Coronavirus: I’m gonna do a pro gamer move
But you have internet. This is different level
without phone,books,tv,internet etc.. no stimulation, nobody to talk to.. you will start to hallucinate pretty quick
"DMT Security" Haha, very subtle there. I see a Psychonaut created this movie, very nice :) I knew that kaleidoscope meant something
I was thinking the same!!!!
I like how he describes what’s on the screen very descriptive to say the lease … keep up the amazing work
This looks like it might be the best movie that I’ve never seen.
This is the best way to watch all these high-concept, generic sci-fi films. I don't want to have to sit through it, I just want to see what ideas they have.
"Virtual Prison Where 1 Year is Equal to 1 Minute of Lifetime"
So Tsukuyomi?
Pretty much
Yeah!! Itachi concept is stolen😂😂😂
Making Sam taste his own medicine is really satisfying
I wouldn’t mind spending a whole year stuck in a room if I could watch this RUclips channel!
Instead of putting the villains in isolation in a "classic cell" programmers can author a simulation where those responsible for the crimes fall victim to the same crime that they perpetrated.
but to what limit, or how long? a murderer would be killed for hundreds of years, a rapist would be raped for centuries.
it's a question of ethics for something like this, can you morally do that to someone, even if they committed a crime? because that would destroy them mentally, hell, it would arguably kill them on the inside
They’ll be free to do it again in one minute.
Why not kill them or lock them up somewhere so they can’t?
@@comsky4251 I feel like if you make the moral choice to commit a crime like that, you should be subjected to your own mental hell.
@@SirDisaster716 yeah, but theirs always the argument of whether or not an evil man should receive an evil punishment, there's an argument for and against so there's never a truly correct answer for something like this
@@comsky4251 I agree, For these reasons: the movie kind of illustrates something to this affect. Sam was "punished" by having to live a year and a day in that simulation, but he was also enlightened. Because of his experience we could infer that he would not push the company towards virtual imprisonment.
But this is a case of a man in pursuit of money but ignorant of the evils made along the way. He had no REAL convictions like let's say ; Guy Fawkes, Mandela, Brave Heart, Ghandi.
If guys like them who committed crimes for what they felt was right (sedition) were sentenced to a virtual prison, it could be said on paper that the punishment is for reform. But the process would undeniably be to "break" them.
Ya know this would be a fun little way to have immortality, set up your idea of a perfect life where centuries in your world last only a minute in the real world
Reminds me of Star Trek TNG The Inner Light which explores this theme. Captain Picard lives a full life in 20 mins. Great episode.
Deep Space Nine also did this with the prison thing. Colin Meanie's character.
Mostly dealt with the after effects of coming out after minutes but having served several years in a virtual prison and how it impacted his family since he had all the associated trauma basically overnight.
This review felt like an eternity.