The prison is a metaphor for our society. Those on the top gorge themselves and leave scraps for those at the bottom. Even if the places are reversed nothing changes because it is in our nature to be greedy and care little for those we consider to be beneath us.
Yeah but it's not a perfect metaphor because in this prison everyone has an equal chance of being at any place, top or bottom. In reality the people are top are usually born into it or are extremely lucky, very few have a chance at any point.
The ending to this movie is pretty tragic once you realize that they did indeed send the dessert to the top. But the message wasn't received because the head chef thought they had sent it back due to a hair. It's heavily implied the girl was a hallucination and she was in fact the dessert. During the movie you can see a scene with said dessert being brought up, but again, they think it's sent back because of a hair. Making more of a realistic ending. Even if you try your hardest, sometimes you can't change anything. Because the people at the top are so far away it's nothing more than an inconvenience.
The hair in the desert is a cut ending. In the actual ending, the girl does go to the top. In an alternate ending, they would have made it to the bottom just the same, but with no girl present. Then him sending the cake back up was more like an "FU", and a sign of his resignation for having reached the bottom and saw how futile it was to even eat the dessert, because it wouldn't sustain him for very long, it would only extend his misery. And whoever runs the whole thing, expecting all the food to be eaten, are clearly doing some sort of behavioral experiment, meaning the trigger to stop the experiment may have been for at least one food item to remain untouched, to show that man isn't entirely greedy. People think it's a representation of rich vs poor, but it could have been an experiment in human consumption...as in, the question of if humans, despite having enough to go around, would be able to not consume everything in sight. The experiment could have also been "You can escape and we will let you go, but you must first survive the ride to the bottom so that you can take it back to the top". That may have been the trigger to end the experiment, or something each person must do to get out individually. When you really look at everything, the misery was caused entirely by everyone in the prison. Had they all been thoughtful and cooperative, every person there would have been well fed and comfortably housed. So while the people running the place seem evil (and they are in a sense), the place was clearly designed to be more than a torture chamber, as there's just too much effort put into its design for it to be that. In the end, it's all about seeing what people would do. Although I think anything they'd have to learn from such an experiment, would be pretty useless, as there's no obvious useful application for the results. So that's why they made the ending so ambiguous.
@@XXXTentaclez /// Through its metaphor, the film argues that there is more than enough money, food and resources to go around, but over consumption inevitably leads to inequality, and the wealthy are not inclined, or have the incentive to share.
The one with the hair was not sent down! The chef only sends down perfect food. He went all Gordon Ramsay on his kitchen staff for dropping a hair in it. He held up the hair to see who it was. You are confused and confusing others lol
No ones mentioned this but considering there are 333 floors and Trimagasi had been there for 10months (10 rotations) and the worst floor he had was 132, he is incredibly lucky. He was in the top 40% of floors 10 times in a row. Less then a 0.1% chance of that happening. So statistically, the odds of you getting a floor worse then 130 twice in a row and being forced to death by starvation is about 36%, and a 21.6% chance you'll be below 130 with no food for 3months straight, you'd rely purely on eating your new cell-mate each month. With 666 inmates a minimum of 200 a month would be almost guaranteed to starve purely from a mathematical standpoint unless they go out of their way to ensure you cant get that unlucky (which the movie pretty much specifies they dont)
406 would starve to death a month if were were 666 people. month 1 130 food 536 no food month 2 130 food 406 no food 2 months, aka dead 130 no food 1 month
You are not considering that people move up or down based on if they killed their cellmate or not.killing your celmate makes you move up. I dont know that does to your calculations.
@@RK-cj4oc I don't remember that being part of the movie to be honest, I know the girl killed her cellmate every week so she had a better chance of being with her child. If its true then yeah it screws up the calculations a bit, but really doesn't change much. Just means there are more murders and less people starving, the deaths remain relatively the same
In the end the optimal strategy is still to gorge yourself on the most nutritious and calorie dense foods, particularly when you are at the top, so that you are stronger and fitter to survive days at the bottom, whether it be living on your fat stores or be in better shape to fight the cannibals. Self interest rules.
@@hellosammy4105 My entire point was that odds are you'll never be near the top. Your first 3months have a very solid chance of all being below level 100, its literally the most likely outcome is to purely starve to death if a majority of the floors (200+ out of 333) dont have enough food If everyone is doing a 1 year sentence, 99%+ of people would starve to death because of pure variance on the floors you're most likely to spend time on
The reason the room didn't get hot when they kept the panacatta is because it was the girl's choice of food. If you took the food that you chose in interview, now only will the rooms not get hot or cold, but everyone in the prison would have enough to eat.
Isn't the girl an hallucination, though? The thing about the hair in the dessert... EDIT2: Oh, I think the scene just shows what WOULD have happened had they sent it back.
The bottom line is you can't "engineer" the perfect societal order. People need to CHOOSE to do the right thing... not of fear or duty, but of pure love.
This movie reminds me of my high school days. When i ran for the class representative and gave a lecture about our society. In our society people get paid millions of dollars just for kicking balls into the nets labeled as football. But in Africa a poor man work hard 24/7 in construction or mines but fail to feed their 2 years old children 3 times a day. Also he can't provide medicine for his suffering 1 year old daughter with asthma. But where millionaires pays $1000 just to eat tiny amount of food in a decorated plate in a luxurious yacht. Guess what i won that election after that speech but nothing has changed in the society. People only hear good things for minutes and throw them away after a day.
I saw this film during confinement, quite an experience, 100% recommended. What I think: - the child never existed - the dessert actually came up with a hair, and the cooks misinterpreted the message - the main character accomplished his mission but in the end his death is in vain because nothing is going to change - quite a fan of the theory saying that killing his partner allows you to reach higher floors the following month
@@Johnny_JD not to mention that the knife guy never got beyond the first ~40% of the floors in 10 months, which, assuming complete randomness would be a 1 in 10.000 chance
What he didn't touch on was that each prisoner tells the intake staff their favorite food so it'd be practically impossible to not have all the food gone. And it wasnt mentioned that 333 floors with 2 people in each floor equaling 666...
You know writers do research, right? They probably used the numbers intentionally to invoke this very reaction you're having. We don't have to read too much into everything.
I remember when I watched this movie, it has a really deep meaning but most of the people called it time waste but I really liked the message it conveyed about our society
This movie reminds me of my high school days. When i ran for the class representative and gave a lecture about our society. In our society people get paid millions of dollars just for kicking balls into the nets labeled as football. But in Africa a poor man work hard 24/7 in construction or mines but fail to feed their 2 years old children 3 times a day. Also he can't provide medicine for his suffering 1 year old daughter with asthma. But where millionaires pays $1000 just to eat tiny amount of food in a decorated plate in a luxurious yacht. Guess what i won that election after that speech but nothing has changed in the society. People only hear good things for minutes and throw them away after a day.
@@tamimhasan3084 Your speech is beautiful and it really made me stop and think. I never realized how Greedy we all actually are. The Rich spend ridiculous amounts of money on lil things. Yet a Man who works so hard for a lil money cannot take care of his family💔 THANK YOU for your Amazing words🏆❤️
@@tamimhasan3084 It's called value. The more value you provide to the world, the more you will receive value back. That doesn't define your value as a person but it does define your value as a worker. There are millions of builders and millions of soldiers, millions of doctors, millions of farmers. To pay just one of these professions "footballer pay" the world would run out of money. Messi is so skilled at his craft that people will pay hundreds to see him. A million people wanting to see him means football gets paid millions. It's not an evil of the world, its supply and demand kiddo.
Its. Bit of an edgy 16 year old movie, the points are not that well established and the director that wrote it is in the same vail of real deep but also real edgy in an unbelievable way
by the time Goreng was in level 171 there's no food left, even when they were at level 48 the food was already looking like scraps. If there are 333 levels and assuming that around level 60 or 70, the food is already completely gone- that leaves like 80% of the rest of the levels to either cannibalize each other, tough it out by only drinking water, or eating whatever they brought it for a month. Trimagasi was technically correct when he said that level 48 was in the middle levels, that middle levels of those that can eat.
Through its metaphor, the film argues that there is more than enough money, food and resources to go around, but over consumption inevitably leads to inequality, and the wealthy are not inclined, or have the incentive to share.
They feel as if they share everyone would be equal and everyone would have equal levels of wealth and power. Now that can't be made to come true as the rich and powerful at the top would lose their status quo
@@robins2819 everyone is guaranteed to eat , which will probably result in Less suffering and gluttony. In real life the gap between rich and poor is so much greater and people are at this current moment living without knowledge and education.
One of the best movies I've seen to date. The ending was not a let down like most movies that try to convey deep meaning, and the whole film had me on my toes.
Something to keep in mind, the table has everyone’s favorite meal. There is enough food. At some point people are eating other peoples meals they know isn’t meant for them.
Thing is. I bet people have tried to ride the platform 100s of times. And when it flies back up to the top floor. How do we know it doesn't impact to keep prisoners from escaping? We never find out what happens to the little girl. It's a really sad story and says a lot about society
@@poot6209 I thought that too. At that point he's beaten and close to death but there's no evidence of that other than "under 16s are not allowed" it's a broken system and sometimes things and people slip trough your the cracks
@@poot6209 the one that had a hair on it was remade. The head chef disciplined the chefs. All food they send down is perfect. That's why the shots of them grabbing and destroying it all means so much. No one cares about how good it looks when you are that hungry youl eat anything
Man I always wondered why would anyone watch these to essentially spoil movies but I can't believe I found this gem of a movie. I watch the first portion and once intrigued I went to watch it. Thanks to your channel. Apparently , Netflix hasn't recommended this to me.
I just can't stop. At this point I've watched more movies by youtube movie recaps channels than actually watching them myself. I guess it's the combination of lack of time, not wanting to spend half of my free time on looking for actually good movie, and I also don't want to watch a crap movie but understand it's crap half way through I don't have time for anything, and RUclips helps me get a glimpse of the things I used to love
because most movies suck and dont deserve an hour or more of peoples time. While they suck sometimes the general idea of a story is good. Thats why people love these recaps
Knowing what happens isn't the same as hearing the lines performed, listening to the way the music plays below the scene or seeing how a director frames a shot. The emotional impact isn't lessened cause you know what happens or people would never watch a movie more than once. Personally, knowing makes me more excited to see something.
There was actually no child in there. Miharu keeps fighting to survive each day without actually thinking of getting to the top because her goal is different from that of the others in there. The lack in there is not her essential problem cos she pursues a dream which for her is more worthy than getting to the topmost class of the economy or even being in charge of the hierarchy; though her dream seem unrealistic. She has created her own goal and it has helped her not to think of the common problem others in that system are facing. She's probably the only one who has accessed all the floors yet she never desires getting to the top because she keeps chasing a goal she'll never achieve till she dies. Remember no child was in there, the child was non-existent, so she was never gonna find any child in there. She ended up making some people (Goreng and Baharat) believe there is something to seek for rather than going to the top of that economic chain. She is the religious members of the society. Goreng and Baharat are men of good will who ends up as converts who came to believe there is fulfilment in something else they only believed exist rather than seeking to gain economic power and influence by joining the platform up.
Because he has become a religious convert, so he is after his new purpose rather than living his old life or seeking economic relevance by going up the floors, just like Miharu looking for her non-existent child. That purpose essentially occupies her that she no longer wants to seek relevance by staying up. She accesses every floor, but her only purpose is not to gain a better position, but to find her purpose, which actually doesn't exist cos there was no child in there. She represents the religious part of the society.
This movie is mind bending for me. My mother always tells me dont waste any food and always clean your plate and dont throw food away cause there are lots of people starving in this world.
Exactly what my mom told me since she's from Dominican Republic and how poor it is there and I'm Puerto Rican. I did that once as a kid, since we ate at 12pm, let's just say, I went the rest of the day without eating until the next day 😂
Her's my understanding of this movie which is obviously an allegory and not to take 1st degree : The prison is our society and the plateform is our ressources (money, food, whatever) Our economical system makes us rise or go down the floors Tramagazi represent the people who accept the system how it is and is ready to do anything to survive, even harm other people. He don't want to rise or go down, just to stay alive. He stand for himself because in his mind, all humans are selfish animals who would do the same. HE may know he is a bad person, but thinking everybody is like that gives him good conscience. His Brought object is a knife, symbol of treason and being ready to backstab people in his way. Baharat represent the believer who think he can climb those floors by the only strenght of his will, but people are mean and will prevent his success. HE represent the ambitious who think society will grant him something if he work hard enough. His brought object is a rope, symbol of his will to "climb" society. Imogiri stand for the people who work for the establishment, keeping quiet while having a confortable life. She is an insider who knows that the system is tricked to give more to some and less to others, while there is more than enough for everybody. But her sickness gave her an existential crisis and now she want to change people but her actions resumed to speak out flat advices that nobody listen to. She have a dog because she knows people too much and prefer the company of an animal who is not cursed with human greediness. Miharu represent the parents who are ready to sacrifice themselves for their child. They would go to extreme lenght to ensure their child is safe, even sacrificing themselves. I saw the movie long ago I don't quite remember what she brought with her. Maybe it was her child, in this case it just reinforce this idea of this parent ready to go the depth of hell if needed, with and for their child. Goreng is this random guy who would like to change society, but is completely overwhelmed by it and have no choice but to do what it force it to. At some point he find the courage and the support try something. When he find Miharu;s child, he realize that all this struggle for survival is ridiculous, and any attempt of changing society is pointless, because it is an automated system, a tower of beton, cold and soulless, that nobody is able to change. By the way, his brought object is Don Quichotte, which is the story of an utopist who think he can change society for the better Sending the child to the top is just a bottle in the sea, you realize your time is over and your efforts gave no results, but you place all your hope in your child, hoping that he will be accepted up there, for a better life than you had. The ending is really dark, it's not about making people up there realize what's going on (because again, it's not first degree), it's about trying to save the child, at least, since you cannot save anybody else, let alone yourself.
As I see it; There is no kid, theres only a panna cotta and a scene where the cooks get questioned bc someone first time ever send food back. They dont get the message and its all worthless.
Yikes!! That is So True!! My heart hurts, I haven't seen the movie, but at least these people signed a contract.... in real life... you just are where you are.
At the beginning of the movie they ask each prisoner what is their favorite food all they have to do is eat their favorite item and everyone would get the chance to eat
Not everyone’s favorite food were included in the meal everyday. Remember there are total of 666 prisoners in the hole (2 in every room, 2 x 333). Like Goreng’s favorite food that he listed before entering the hole which is some kind of snail dish/recipe, was only included in the meal when he was sent on floor 33, on his last day at that floor.
The worst part of this is when you realize the chefs and jailers at the "top" aren't even the top of our entire society. They are glorified service workers in a prison complex. The CEOs, politicians and even the common man who consciously and unconsciously support this horrible hidden world aren't ever involved with the prisoners. Everything they do will never be heard beyond the kitchen and maybe a throwaway report or article. That's literally what dealing with the prison system in our world is like right now. The common middle class man will barely experience or understand how bad it really gets in there. Remeber how seeing 202 made him realize there are more floors than they expected? Even if they get out, there will be a million more floors. And just like the chefs on the top, the REAL top percentage can't connect or empathize.
That movie stayed with me for weeks, pretty disturbing stuff, definitely not for a weak stomach... It's like a train wreck, you just can't stop watching.
I’d argue quite the contrary. We live in a world where doing the less “animalistic” action is considered “humanity”. Every person in the movie is a human. Humanity is innately greedy and the prison proves it. Out of 333 “humans”, only 3 seemed to have “humanity”, therefore I don’t understand why even bother calling it “humanity”.
Holy Moly I've never seen a quick crib review of a movie like this - so well written, even funny/ironic despite its hideously intriguing movie plot content! The movie looks so good, I wanted to stop your vid but was compelled to keep watching! Bravo. Not sure if you gave the total end away (hope not( coz think I'll need to go watch the whole movie now, anyway - thanks to your great rundown! And I'm a TV teaser editor, so extra appreciate how you crammed all that in!
I agree it is a good channel and I have found some good movies through it. You can also start watching one and then decide whether you want to spend 2 hrs watching the whole thing, which is nice because it also helps you avoid wasting time on bad movies. It seems like the editing is really good and matches up with the scripts, and the scripts are worded very well. So I don't think it's AI running it, but the text-to-speech reading is noticeable. Maybe it is made by some people below level 300 in our vertical prison in order to make money for the people who own them and live on level 6.
There was a scene in the middle of the movie of the food they were to use as a symbol was on the platform all alone after the entire thing which means he hallucinated the kid and did actually put the food there but the chefs and people at the top thought the 'prisoners' didn't eat because of a hair on it meaning the message never actually did what it was meant to do
@@UnderCloud66 exactly it shows us how in society people who are far superior and above the poor don’t realise how the people below them are suffering. The chefs who were on the top and ate whatever they felt like expected the people below to act like them and ignore the food with a hair in it just like how they would without realising their situations are completely different
Watched this movie for the first time in October a couple years ago. I'm trying to get my family to watch it again with me. It was so good. So many different details in it.
This is a good surface level breakdown, but when you account for the numerology and esoteric element of this you realize how truly great this movie is.
I mean this also completely neglects the deeper analysis of the film from a societal point of view. The point is the only way to get people to share is through force, at the end it takes violence to get order, this is supposed to be analogous to authoritarian communist regimes like those of the USSR or Castro's Cuba. People will NOT choose right is the message, we are greedy under capitalism, and those who kill and steal end up at the top and only those who are good hearted and have the power and will to protect those lower levels can bring this out (specifically with violence), this is what Marx called the vanguard party. The movie is a marxist interpretation of capitalistic society through an extended metaphor.
This is a very sad, yet almost accurate depiction of human society where people will eat all the each and don’t care about the people on other floors below them so that they can eat alll the food
The point is the only way to get people to share is through force, at the end it takes violence to get order, this is supposed to be analogous to authoritarian communist regimes like those of the USSR or Castro's Cuba. People will NOT choose right is the message, we are greedy under capitalism, and those who kill and steal end up at the top and only those who are good hearted and have the power and will to protect those lower levels can bring this out (specifically with violence), this is what Marx called the vanguard party. The movie is a marxist interpretation of capitalistic society through an extended metaphor. This does not make it right or wrong but its important to remember that the actual message of this movie is the same as the message of Stalin and Mao, now whether you agree with that or not is up to you but there is a lot more reading to be done than just this oversimplified metaphor.
That was one of the craziest insane movies i've ever seen, saw it on netflix when i used to have it, it wasn't in English either, had to watch it with subtitles.
Not exactly. 'Trickle-down' economics postulate that the people at the top want to make ever more money, but cannot without employing more people. If those at the top make more (through tax breaks etc.) then they will supposedly invest that back into the economy, creating more jobs and more goods for those who would otherwise be unemployed. The theory falls apart however, when those receiving the aid just pocket the extra cash rather than re-investing, or when the system fails to account for the fact that by making everything cheaper, you ultimately flood the market, goods go unsold and businesses start closing. The market itself can only handle so much at a base level, before it starts to collapse under the strain of inflation and devalued currency. Trickle-down is not just the rich being selfish and short-sighted - that is only a part of the equation. The other end is that all of mankind's existence has been characterized by scarcity of resources. Every system we have, from the economic, to the moral, to the biological, is based on the idea that we will not always have everything we want or need. When situations are created where we DO have plenty, nothing about what we have created or even what we _are_ is designed with that situation in mind. Sadly, a minimal level of scarcity is necessary for any human-designed system to work.
That's a bad analogy, because in the real world, you are not trapped on your floor, relying on the largesse of those above you. In the real world, you can escape your "floor" and make your life better. I did.
If you haven’t seen this you need to! It is such a great film and it is a film that makes you think hard about what you would do in each scenario presented (based on which level the characters find themselves on). I like psychological thrillers because they stay with you. This film did not disappoint and there is a lot to analyze with this film. I recommend 10/10
Best strategy is to eat as much as you can when you are at the high floors so that you build up strength and fat to survive low floors. Also killing others gets you to the higher floors, which is all the more reason to eat as much as possible when you can to stay fit.
What you skipped is, that he had to stay there for 6 months for study reasons, and he was allowed to pick anything in the prison with him. And bro chose a book
it doesn't matter when the system is unalterably corrupt when you can't change people in denial, because you can change yourself. Overcoming the need for external validation and offering yourself as a self-directed sacrifice to serve others engenders an ecstasy greater than a thousand lifetimes of bliss.
"Hey John, you said you want the Jelly and what?" "And some chicken, not much tho!" "Got it! Oh, and tell the fellas down that i ate the fish since not much people enjoyed it last time i'm at the bottom!" "Sorry pal, i'd spread the news for the people down here" "Much appreciate! Enjoy your diner too, boys!"
Watched this during lockdown after my friend recommended it, it's a fantastic film. I know it's allegorical/metaphorical for society etc, but at the time all I could think of was that it was pretty similar to the great toilet roll shortage situation of covid19 😬🙃
Or even closer to the movie; when Churchill during ww2 took all grain from India to fill the British stockpiles incase of a prolonged shortage while the Indian population was dying of starvation due to this XD
my question is how is it possible that that big of a guy and the guy with a sword both survive for so long on a such deep level without eating eachother
maybe they went down together on an earlier day to eat other people. been a while since I watched this movie, but I don't remember the dudes ever being explained in any way
Imagine the horror of shuffling 333 levels or carrying 666 people (dead or alive) around in less than a day...Building a 333 levels prisoner is already an almost impossible feat, it is more than 2 times higher than Burg Khalifa!
You could just stack 50 floors next to each other like 7 skyscrapers and just bring the platform back to the top for each skyscraper . But yes if it was all one place then he’ll no
When the platform raises from bottom floor I'd try using bunk beds in a vertical position in the hopes that if you get crushed from it's ascending it can prevent that. Provided the top does just crush you, which we don't know.
There was a story a friend told me. A guy dies and goes to judgement. He's found innocent and it's customary to show people who go to heaven hell. He's transported to a banquet table with the most wonderful food and people are confined to chairs with meter long fork and spoon tied to their hands, they try to get food to their mouths but just make a mess most of it falling on the ground. He then goes to heaven and its almost exactly the same but instead of trying to feed them selves they feed the person across the table and they don't drop any food and make a mess and are able to eat everything they want
Yes, it's about society, but I think a lot of people miss the part about the little girl. The rule was that no one under 16 can enter. People just believed it because it was said from the leaders. The mother was looking for her daughter, but people didn't believe her. The leaders of the system don't care. They can make up anything, but they don't have to follow the rules. Which is why everyone thought the mother was crazy when she alone knew the truth.
I remember watching this movie for my Spanish final and had to watch it in Spanish with no subtitles it was definitely a crazy movie and kept me in got a 10/10 on the final when I wrote about it.
If the platform comes down from the top then shoots back up after it reaches the bottom then there must be a level above room 1 where they prepare the food. So room 1 would most likely just be one level down from a possible escape or at least see what goes on.
That movie was hoffifying, beautiful and genius. The acting is incredible and the scenes are so vivid you forget that the entire plot takes place between depressingly grey concrete wall. Can recommend watching the real thing before the recap :D
Think of the ending as rebuff to the system.rhe whole movies is a commentary on society and how resources are distributed from the top down...but the systems we are all apart of operationalize the distribution of said resources....think about it a bit and you will find your own interpretation
This is not to take 1st degree, this movie is an allegory. The prison is our society and the plateform is our ressources (money, food, whatever) Our economical system makes us rise or go down the floors Tramagazi represent the people who accept the system how it is and is ready to do anything to survive, even harm other people. He don't want to rise or go down, just to stay alive Baharat represent the believer who think he can climb those floors by the only strenght of his will, but people are mean and will prevent his success. HE represent the ambitious who think society will grant him something if he work hard enough Imogiri stand for the people who work for the establishment, keeping quiet while having a confortable life. She is an insider who knows that the system is tricked to give more to some and less to others, while there is more than enough for everybody. But her sickness gave her an existential crisis and now she want to change people but her actions resumed to speak out flat advices that nobody listen to. Miharu represent the parents who are ready to sacrifice themselves for their child. They would go to extreme lenght to ensure their child is safe, even sacrificing themselves. Goreng is this random guy who would like to change society, but is completely overwhelmed by it and have no choice but to do what it force it to. At some point he find the courage and the support try something. When he find Miharu;s child, he realize that all this struggle for survival is ridiculous, and any attempt of changing society is pointless, because it is an automated system, a tower of beton, cold and soulless, that nobody is able to change. Sending the child to the top is just a bottle in the sea, you realize your time is over and your efforts gave no results, but you place all your hope in your child, hoping that he will be accepted up there, for a better life than you had. The ending is really dark, it's not about making people up there realize what's going on, it's about trying to save the child, at least, since you cannot save anybody else
The protagonist sends up the kid in order to get the administration to shut down the prison since they likely don't know that there is a child in the prison. The ending doesn't show if it works but your left wondering if the kid represents a false hope that change is possible or a real hope that change will really come. Each character in the prison are symbols of hope, courage, doubt, distrust, etc it's supposed to represent the upper class hoarding resources while the lower classes suffer.
@@speedysloth2868 there’s no way the child got out. How many other people would have thought about just riding the platform? They would’ve had a failsafe
The movie is called "The Platform" 2019 - I really wish if they would create a roguelike game version of something very similar to this. The movie is awesome and I think it would work so well as a game version similar to it's premise.
What I found the most interesting is how the table has 2000 calories (a healthy amount an adult person should eat every day) for every person in the prison, but greed kills those on the bottom.
While I appreciate the message of this movie I think they leaned a bit too heavily into metaphor. Desperate food shortages, killing and eating your cell mate, nothing was too far. We can tell by the lift not stopping and penalties for keeping food. I don't see how sending a child who's mother had been desperately searching for for months, to the psychopaths running this place will help. The admins know she was constantly riding the lift down since they track the food and deaths. There is a giant hole in the movies logic, suddenly there is more floors than anticipated and therefore the food allotment is back to not being enough. On top of that the prison staff put a child on the bottom level knowing the child won't get food... its insanity to think that anything would change by sending the kid back up. The prison sent the kid down there to die in the first place. I understand that at the end most of this was most likely the main character hallucinating, but the unstinting belief in "the system" that sending a child back up points out a problem should have been broken after he was forced into cannibalism even though the guards can easily access all of the cells since they change their locations every month.
The point is the only way to get people to share is through force, at the end it takes violence to get order, this is supposed to be analogous to authoritarian communist regimes like those of the USSR or Castro's Cuba. People will NOT choose right is the message, we are greedy under capitalism, and those who kill and steal end up at the top and only those who are good hearted and have the power and will to protect those lower levels can bring this out (specifically with violence), this is what Marx called the vanguard party. The movie is a marxist interpretation of capitalistic society through an extended metaphor. This does not make it right or wrong but its important to remember that the actual message of this movie is the same as the message of Stalin and Mao, now whether you agree with that or not is up to you but there is a lot more reading to be done than just this oversimplified metaphor.
Man people need to read up on how the Tit-for-Tat system worked. It has not only been proved logically but, also statistically that people do better in the long run if they cooperate together, set boundaries, and also forgive.
Watching this movie would be akin to witnessing a gory battlefield where humanity's most gruesome struggle for survival ever is being waged.. Brilliant, great, riveting, unparalleled...
Problem with people is that they care only about themselves and they do care in the short run. They don’t think of the future. It is the main problem of humanity that will lead them to the end.
Are we not gonna talk about how some woman takes a poor dog into a filthy and desperate prison? Literally the dog can starve to death and it's kind of cruel.
The prison is a metaphor for our society. Those on the top gorge themselves and leave scraps for those at the bottom. Even if the places are reversed nothing changes because it is in our nature to be greedy and care little for those we consider to be beneath us.
Best explanation my bro
It's not our nature, except in this system of false scarcity.
@@Thomas-zz4ut So all of recorded human history is just wrong?
I'm 14 and this is deep
Yeah but it's not a perfect metaphor because in this prison everyone has an equal chance of being at any place, top or bottom. In reality the people are top are usually born into it or are extremely lucky, very few have a chance at any point.
The ending to this movie is pretty tragic once you realize that they did indeed send the dessert to the top. But the message wasn't received because the head chef thought they had sent it back due to a hair. It's heavily implied the girl was a hallucination and she was in fact the dessert. During the movie you can see a scene with said dessert being brought up, but again, they think it's sent back because of a hair. Making more of a realistic ending. Even if you try your hardest, sometimes you can't change anything. Because the people at the top are so far away it's nothing more than an inconvenience.
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this movie was so damn confusing ty for this Movie recap
The hair in the desert is a cut ending. In the actual ending, the girl does go to the top. In an alternate ending, they would have made it to the bottom just the same, but with no girl present. Then him sending the cake back up was more like an "FU", and a sign of his resignation for having reached the bottom and saw how futile it was to even eat the dessert, because it wouldn't sustain him for very long, it would only extend his misery. And whoever runs the whole thing, expecting all the food to be eaten, are clearly doing some sort of behavioral experiment, meaning the trigger to stop the experiment may have been for at least one food item to remain untouched, to show that man isn't entirely greedy. People think it's a representation of rich vs poor, but it could have been an experiment in human consumption...as in, the question of if humans, despite having enough to go around, would be able to not consume everything in sight.
The experiment could have also been "You can escape and we will let you go, but you must first survive the ride to the bottom so that you can take it back to the top". That may have been the trigger to end the experiment, or something each person must do to get out individually.
When you really look at everything, the misery was caused entirely by everyone in the prison. Had they all been thoughtful and cooperative, every person there would have been well fed and comfortably housed. So while the people running the place seem evil (and they are in a sense), the place was clearly designed to be more than a torture chamber, as there's just too much effort put into its design for it to be that. In the end, it's all about seeing what people would do.
Although I think anything they'd have to learn from such an experiment, would be pretty useless, as there's no obvious useful application for the results. So that's why they made the ending so ambiguous.
@@XXXTentaclez /// Through its metaphor, the film argues that there is more than enough money, food and resources to go around, but over consumption inevitably leads to inequality, and the wealthy are not inclined, or have the incentive to share.
The one with the hair was not sent down! The chef only sends down perfect food. He went all Gordon Ramsay on his kitchen staff for dropping a hair in it. He held up the hair to see who it was. You are confused and confusing others lol
No ones mentioned this but considering there are 333 floors and Trimagasi had been there for 10months (10 rotations) and the worst floor he had was 132, he is incredibly lucky. He was in the top 40% of floors 10 times in a row. Less then a 0.1% chance of that happening.
So statistically, the odds of you getting a floor worse then 130 twice in a row and being forced to death by starvation is about 36%, and a 21.6% chance you'll be below 130 with no food for 3months straight, you'd rely purely on eating your new cell-mate each month.
With 666 inmates a minimum of 200 a month would be almost guaranteed to starve purely from a mathematical standpoint unless they go out of their way to ensure you cant get that unlucky (which the movie pretty much specifies they dont)
406 would starve to death a month if were were 666 people.
month 1
130 food
536 no food
month 2
130 food
406 no food 2 months, aka dead
130 no food 1 month
You are not considering that people move up or down based on if they killed their cellmate or not.killing your celmate makes you move up. I dont know that does to your calculations.
@@RK-cj4oc I don't remember that being part of the movie to be honest, I know the girl killed her cellmate every week so she had a better chance of being with her child.
If its true then yeah it screws up the calculations a bit, but really doesn't change much.
Just means there are more murders and less people starving, the deaths remain relatively the same
In the end the optimal strategy is still to gorge yourself on the most nutritious and calorie dense foods, particularly when you are at the top, so that you are stronger and fitter to survive days at the bottom, whether it be living on your fat stores or be in better shape to fight the cannibals. Self interest rules.
@@hellosammy4105 My entire point was that odds are you'll never be near the top.
Your first 3months have a very solid chance of all being below level 100, its literally the most likely outcome is to purely starve to death if a majority of the floors (200+ out of 333) dont have enough food
If everyone is doing a 1 year sentence, 99%+ of people would starve to death because of pure variance on the floors you're most likely to spend time on
The reason the room didn't get hot when they kept the panacatta is because it was the girl's choice of food. If you took the food that you chose in interview, now only will the rooms not get hot or cold, but everyone in the prison would have enough to eat.
You’re not wrong
Isn't the girl an hallucination, though?
The thing about the hair in the dessert...
EDIT2: Oh, I think the scene just shows what WOULD have happened had they sent it back.
How do you know that? Is there a whole lore for this universe?
This is the best take yet and you only got 400 likes. I'm upset. I need to see this movie.
so that means they’re supposed to eat that one specific meal they choose the entire time they’re there 🤔
The bottom line is you can't "engineer" the perfect societal order. People need to CHOOSE to do the right thing... not of fear or duty, but of pure love.
Well said..and I do agree with you
This
This movie reminds me of my high school days. When i ran for the class representative and gave a lecture about our society.
In our society people get paid millions of dollars just for kicking balls into the nets labeled as football. But in Africa a poor man work hard 24/7 in construction or mines but fail to feed their 2 years old children 3 times a day. Also he can't provide medicine for his suffering 1 year old daughter with asthma.
But where millionaires pays $1000 just to eat tiny amount of food in a decorated plate in a luxurious yacht.
Guess what i won that election after that speech but nothing has changed in the society. People only hear good things for minutes and throw them away after a day.
And how likely is that? We can only answer for ourselves - we cannot change others
Great take away. Cheers
I saw this film during confinement, quite an experience, 100% recommended.
What I think:
- the child never existed
- the dessert actually came up with a hair, and the cooks misinterpreted the message
- the main character accomplished his mission but in the end his death is in vain because nothing is going to change
- quite a fan of the theory saying that killing his partner allows you to reach higher floors the following month
What is the name of the movie?
@@FuctByTheGovernment The Platform
wait that makes sense since the girl who always killed her partner always appeared above the main characters
@@Johnny_JD not to mention that the knife guy never got beyond the first ~40% of the floors in 10 months, which, assuming complete randomness would be a 1 in 10.000 chance
@@hellboy19991 🤯🤯🤯
What he didn't touch on was that each prisoner tells the intake staff their favorite food so it'd be practically impossible to not have all the food gone. And it wasnt mentioned that 333 floors with 2 people in each floor equaling 666...
Well done!
Yes they are in hell
33 is mason number as well and funny enough he was in that room specially
Pure symbolism at its best
You know writers do research, right? They probably used the numbers intentionally to invoke this very reaction you're having. We don't have to read too much into everything.
I remember when I watched this movie, it has a really deep meaning but most of the people called it time waste but I really liked the message it conveyed about our society
This movie reminds me of my high school days. When i ran for the class representative and gave a lecture about our society.
In our society people get paid millions of dollars just for kicking balls into the nets labeled as football. But in Africa a poor man work hard 24/7 in construction or mines but fail to feed their 2 years old children 3 times a day. Also he can't provide medicine for his suffering 1 year old daughter with asthma.
But where millionaires pays $1000 just to eat tiny amount of food in a decorated plate in a luxurious yacht.
Guess what i won that election after that speech but nothing has changed in the society. People only hear good things for minutes and throw them away after a day.
@@tamimhasan3084 Your speech is beautiful and it really made me stop and think. I never realized how Greedy we all actually are. The Rich spend ridiculous amounts of money on lil things. Yet a Man who works so hard for a lil money cannot take care of his family💔 THANK YOU for your Amazing words🏆❤️
@@tamimhasan3084 It's called value. The more value you provide to the world, the more you will receive value back. That doesn't define your value as a person but it does define your value as a worker.
There are millions of builders and millions of soldiers, millions of doctors, millions of farmers. To pay just one of these professions "footballer pay" the world would run out of money.
Messi is so skilled at his craft that people will pay hundreds to see him. A million people wanting to see him means football gets paid millions.
It's not an evil of the world, its supply and demand kiddo.
Its. Bit of an edgy 16 year old movie, the points are not that well established and the director that wrote it is in the same vail of real deep but also real edgy in an unbelievable way
The message isn’t deep. It’s super obvious. That doesn’t make it bad or anything, but it’s not some masterclass in storytelling either
by the time Goreng was in level 171 there's no food left, even when they were at level 48 the food was already looking like scraps. If there are 333 levels and assuming that around level 60 or 70, the food is already completely gone- that leaves like 80% of the rest of the levels to either cannibalize each other, tough it out by only drinking water, or eating whatever they brought it for a month. Trimagasi was technically correct when he said that level 48 was in the middle levels, that middle levels of those that can eat.
Through its metaphor, the film argues that there is more than enough money, food and resources to go around, but over consumption inevitably leads to inequality, and the wealthy are not inclined, or have the incentive to share.
Sorta, it just saying it human nature to want more, no matter how hard we try their will always be greed.
How exactly isn't there incentive to share, I think there is
They feel as if they share everyone would be equal and everyone would have equal levels of wealth and power. Now that can't be made to come true as the rich and powerful at the top would lose their status quo
@@fractionoflight4495 What's the incentive to share? What would they get out of sharing?
@@robins2819 everyone is guaranteed to eat , which will probably result in Less suffering and gluttony. In real life the gap between rich and poor is so much greater and people are at this current moment living without knowledge and education.
One of the best movies I've seen to date. The ending was not a let down like most movies that try to convey deep meaning, and the whole film had me on my toes.
Bad ending
@@charleshawk6668 The ending was sad. But not bad
Literally the worst movie in history. Such a waste of time, would rather watch a wall with wet paint become dry.
@@BeanmanHD you were too dumb to understand the movie and now you are angry 😂
@@BeanmanHD yup. uh huh…
Something to keep in mind, the table has everyone’s favorite meal. There is enough food. At some point people are eating other peoples meals they know isn’t meant for them.
@jygb7092 because it makes for a great plot, and a unbeknownst balance to support it, that's why...be more creative.
the first part is said in the movie
the second part is by logic
Not really.. if u watch the movie then they went all the way down and give them good portion but it still ain’t enough
Thing is. I bet people have tried to ride the platform 100s of times. And when it flies back up to the top floor. How do we know it doesn't impact to keep prisoners from escaping? We never find out what happens to the little girl. It's a really sad story and says a lot about society
The little girl didn't exist. Only the dessert is sent up and the chefs think people didn't like it due to a hair being on it.
@@poot6209 Can u explain further? I still dont understand
@@sleepmaniac9715 girl is also hallucination. girl is actually desert being sent to chefs on top, but they dont understand what it is
@@poot6209 I thought that too. At that point he's beaten and close to death but there's no evidence of that other than "under 16s are not allowed" it's a broken system and sometimes things and people slip trough your the cracks
@@poot6209 the one that had a hair on it was remade. The head chef disciplined the chefs. All food they send down is perfect. That's why the shots of them grabbing and destroying it all means so much. No one cares about how good it looks when you are that hungry youl eat anything
Man I always wondered why would anyone watch these to essentially spoil movies but I can't believe I found this gem of a movie. I watch the first portion and once intrigued I went to watch it. Thanks to your channel. Apparently , Netflix hasn't recommended this to me.
I just can't stop. At this point I've watched more movies by youtube movie recaps channels than actually watching them myself. I guess it's the combination of lack of time, not wanting to spend half of my free time on looking for actually good movie, and I also don't want to watch a crap movie but understand it's crap half way through
I don't have time for anything, and RUclips helps me get a glimpse of the things I used to love
because most movies suck and dont deserve an hour or more of peoples time. While they suck sometimes the general idea of a story is good. Thats why people love these recaps
@@marionamewontwork2681AMEN 🙌😂
Netflix only recommends popular shit, they’re literally the worst streaming platform
Knowing what happens isn't the same as hearing the lines performed, listening to the way the music plays below the scene or seeing how a director frames a shot. The emotional impact isn't lessened cause you know what happens or people would never watch a movie more than once. Personally, knowing makes me more excited to see something.
The ending is sad
"You sacrificed luxuries, for nothing. Here is a small surprise, but your efforts changed nothing."
Wise words Mr freeman.
There was actually no child in there. Miharu keeps fighting to survive each day without actually thinking of getting to the top because her goal is different from that of the others in there. The lack in there is not her essential problem cos she pursues a dream which for her is more worthy than getting to the topmost class of the economy or even being in charge of the hierarchy; though her dream seem unrealistic. She has created her own goal and it has helped her not to think of the common problem others in that system are facing. She's probably the only one who has accessed all the floors yet she never desires getting to the top because she keeps chasing a goal she'll never achieve till she dies. Remember no child was in there, the child was non-existent, so she was never gonna find any child in there. She ended up making some people (Goreng and Baharat) believe there is something to seek for rather than going to the top of that economic chain. She is the religious members of the society. Goreng and Baharat are men of good will who ends up as converts who came to believe there is fulfilment in something else they only believed exist rather than seeking to gain economic power and influence by joining the platform up.
Bro no comments?
Good rationale.
@@kokocoke4948 I commented bruh. Damn those words deserve one.
Yet I saw a child. THEORY BLOWN!
Good take friend
I feel bad for Baharat, he tries his best to support Goreng even its against his fellow friends
Because he has become a religious convert, so he is after his new purpose rather than living his old life or seeking economic relevance by going up the floors, just like Miharu looking for her non-existent child. That purpose essentially occupies her that she no longer wants to seek relevance by staying up. She accesses every floor, but her only purpose is not to gain a better position, but to find her purpose, which actually doesn't exist cos there was no child in there. She represents the religious part of the society.
This movie is mind bending for me. My mother always tells me dont waste any food and always clean your plate and dont throw food away cause there are lots of people starving in this world.
Exactly what my mom told me since she's from Dominican Republic and how poor it is there and I'm Puerto Rican.
I did that once as a kid, since we ate at 12pm, let's just say, I went the rest of the day without eating until the next day 😂
Ironically in this movie not cleaning the plate and “wasting” the food is what would allow people at lower level to survive
Her's my understanding of this movie which is obviously an allegory and not to take 1st degree :
The prison is our society and the plateform is our ressources (money, food, whatever)
Our economical system makes us rise or go down the floors
Tramagazi represent the people who accept the system how it is and is ready to do anything to survive, even harm other people. He don't want to rise or go down, just to stay alive. He stand for himself because in his mind, all humans are selfish animals who would do the same. HE may know he is a bad person, but thinking everybody is like that gives him good conscience.
His Brought object is a knife, symbol of treason and being ready to backstab people in his way.
Baharat represent the believer who think he can climb those floors by the only strenght of his will, but people are mean and will prevent his success. HE represent the ambitious who think society will grant him something if he work hard enough.
His brought object is a rope, symbol of his will to "climb" society.
Imogiri stand for the people who work for the establishment, keeping quiet while having a confortable life. She is an insider who knows that the system is tricked to give more to some
and less to others, while there is more than enough for everybody. But her sickness gave her an existential crisis and now she want to change people but her actions resumed to speak out flat advices that nobody listen to.
She have a dog because she knows people too much and prefer the company of an animal who is not cursed with human greediness.
Miharu represent the parents who are ready to sacrifice themselves for their child. They would go to extreme lenght to ensure their child is safe, even sacrificing themselves.
I saw the movie long ago I don't quite remember what she brought with her. Maybe it was her child, in this case it just reinforce this idea of this parent ready to go the depth of hell if needed, with and for their child.
Goreng is this random guy who would like to change society, but is completely overwhelmed by it and have no choice but to do what it force it to. At some point he find the courage and the support try something. When he find Miharu;s child, he realize that all this struggle for survival is ridiculous, and any attempt of changing society is pointless, because it is an automated system, a tower of beton, cold and soulless, that nobody is able to change.
By the way, his brought object is Don Quichotte, which is the story of an utopist who think he can change society for the better
Sending the child to the top is just a bottle in the sea, you realize your time is over and your efforts gave no results, but you place all your hope in your child, hoping that he will be accepted up there, for a better life than you had.
The ending is really dark, it's not about making people up there realize what's going on (because again, it's not first degree), it's about trying to save the child, at least, since you cannot save anybody else, let alone yourself.
As I see it; There is no kid, theres only a panna cotta and a scene where the cooks get questioned bc someone first time ever send food back. They dont get the message and its all worthless.
Don Quixote*
how u get this much time to write this much... u seems to be so free my dear...
@@albertozp in french it s don quichotte
@@shreyassaraf7576 took me around 30 min it s ok dear reader
The worst part is.. this is real life but instead of floors you have money
instead of floors you have pedophiles at the top
@@vukcurovic2770 Don't get punished for anything i guess sad mf's
Makes sense
Yikes!! That is So True!!
My heart hurts, I haven't seen the movie, but at least these people signed a contract.... in real life... you just are where you are.
You arent stuck to a floor because this isnt the 15th century. Shape up.
why the hell is a kitchen knife censored? we are living in a dystopian time line
Its a world where everyone is afraid of everything.
Meanwhile this movie is totally sick minded. But gotta blur the one sane thing in it
It wasn't censored the first time which is weird
RUclips bots are crazy and might ban your video if you use unwanted words
Thats why people say "unalive" or "nono germans"
Hey calm down guys, he's just afraid of having his video demonetized
At the beginning of the movie they ask each prisoner what is their favorite food all they have to do is eat their favorite item and everyone would get the chance to eat
Oh shit really !? I missed that😮
Not everyone’s favorite food were included in the meal everyday. Remember there are total of 666 prisoners in the hole (2 in every room, 2 x 333). Like Goreng’s favorite food that he listed before entering the hole which is some kind of snail dish/recipe, was only included in the meal when he was sent on floor 33, on his last day at that floor.
@@rjfc6514 maybe he's snail dish kept getting eaten by levels above him...
Your favorite food is NOT guaranteed to have sufficient nutrition to support you, nor is any particular quantity promised.
That makes sense but with all those floors and that tiny platform, it would not have worked.
This movie is REALLY good. It's so simplistic yet perfect.
It is not simplistic at all. I think that word does not mean what you think it means.
its one of the worst movies more like
What is this movie called?
@RUclips doesn't care about false suspension
No it's not.
Go cope somewhere else
@@spectate0074 The Platform.
The worst part of this is when you realize the chefs and jailers at the "top" aren't even the top of our entire society. They are glorified service workers in a prison complex. The CEOs, politicians and even the common man who consciously and unconsciously support this horrible hidden world aren't ever involved with the prisoners. Everything they do will never be heard beyond the kitchen and maybe a throwaway report or article.
That's literally what dealing with the prison system in our world is like right now. The common middle class man will barely experience or understand how bad it really gets in there.
Remeber how seeing 202 made him realize there are more floors than they expected? Even if they get out, there will be a million more floors. And just like the chefs on the top, the REAL top percentage can't connect or empathize.
Best quote in the movie. “Because I can’t shit upwards”.
This is actually a great thought-provoking movie. Definitely worth watching the full film!
And WHATS IT NAME
@@dubuque1 The Platform.
It's definitely worth it
completely unscientific understanding of sociological development and therefore deeply unserious.
That movie stayed with me for weeks, pretty disturbing stuff, definitely not for a weak stomach... It's like a train wreck, you just can't stop watching.
😂😢
look platform 2
Miharu and gorin were the only people who actually still had a drop of humanity left in them
killing people left and right - “drop of humanity” ok bud
simp
I’d argue quite the contrary. We live in a world where doing the less “animalistic” action is considered “humanity”. Every person in the movie is a human. Humanity is innately greedy and the prison proves it. Out of 333 “humans”, only 3 seemed to have “humanity”, therefore I don’t understand why even bother calling it “humanity”.
Baharat and the guy on wheelchair too
@@fareastslav whom did he kill left and right? All I remember was when he defended the woman?
I don’t remember the last time I watched a movie. This is how I watch movies now.
Reallll 😭😭😭
The recap is okay. The entire movie is worth watching in full.
Hi
Please can I know the name of this movie thank you 😊
@@omopapa3575 the platform
Same
Holy Moly I've never seen a quick crib review of a movie like this - so well written, even funny/ironic despite its hideously intriguing movie plot content! The movie looks so good, I wanted to stop your vid but was compelled to keep watching! Bravo. Not sure if you gave the total end away (hope not( coz think I'll need to go watch the whole movie now, anyway - thanks to your great rundown! And I'm a TV teaser editor, so extra appreciate how you crammed all that in!
Must be very hard work for the wardens to keep sedating prisoners and swapping them. 😂
It said they use some sort of sleeping gas
@@johnnywiz101 moving around 666 prisoners up and down 333 floors, was the hard part I guess.
Sorta since they could use the platform easy
could be automated, like with those old cube movies.
Lol that's why they do it once per month
This movie is wonderful and I love it. Also, this channel has put me onto some really solid movies so thanks for that AI running this!
"wonderful" is not the word I'd use...
You think an artificial intelligence runs this channel?
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@@jessicabrock8800 Larry thinks the voice filter used means this video was made by a machine lol
I agree it is a good channel and I have found some good movies through it. You can also start watching one and then decide whether you want to spend 2 hrs watching the whole thing, which is nice because it also helps you avoid wasting time on bad movies.
It seems like the editing is really good and matches up with the scripts, and the scripts are worded very well. So I don't think it's AI running it, but the text-to-speech reading is noticeable. Maybe it is made by some people below level 300 in our vertical prison in order to make money for the people who own them and live on level 6.
nobody will know why this comment has so many likes
she wasnt in the end tho, she was at 50
@@nanoviolence7681because she spared him
So she was looking for her daughter but her actions only kept her far away
No that's not possible coz as trimagasi said at first he was at 72 then he got lower than 72 For the next 2 months.
@@retropwuh.. wasn't trimagasi killed people before he came there?
There was a scene in the middle of the movie of the food they were to use as a symbol was on the platform all alone after the entire thing which means he hallucinated the kid and did actually put the food there but the chefs and people at the top thought the 'prisoners' didn't eat because of a hair on it meaning the message never actually did what it was meant to do
But Baharat saw the kid too?
@@resurgingflame baharat also saw the mcs hallucinations
The kid ate the dessert tho
Yeah, and starving people at the bottom wouldnt eat that because of a hair? LOL, think about it...
@@UnderCloud66 exactly it shows us how in society people who are far superior and above the poor don’t realise how the people below them are suffering. The chefs who were on the top and ate whatever they felt like expected the people below to act like them and ignore the food with a hair in it just like how they would without realising their situations are completely different
The movie is called “the platform” for those inquiring
Had to scroll forever
Ty!
You are one of a kind 👑
Wait, but at the start it said it's called 'The Experiment'
HOW ABOUT HAVING THE MOVIE TITLE IN THE DESCRIPTION??
The title of the movie is on screen for 3 seconds soon as the video starts
Watched this movie for the first time in October a couple years ago. I'm trying to get my family to watch it again with me. It was so good. So many different details in it.
Wats d tittle of d movie?
@@eniyeikporo The Platform.
@@beckscald3855 you are a LEGEND for this, I have no Idea why they can't put the name of the movie in the description.
@@PraiseTheSun02 me either to be honest. It's honestly such an interesting film. One of the best I've seen in a long time.
That dude dancing on the platform haunted me! Why do scary movies always have someone dancing, and why does that always freak me out?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve seen this movie and it’s fantastic. Give it a watch, people
I've probably missed it. But what is the name of this movie?
Nevermind: The platform
Completely agree with you. Saw this movie 2 years ago. Its really good
Agreed. Great movie.
Wats d movie title?
This is a good surface level breakdown, but when you account for the numerology and esoteric element of this you realize how truly great this movie is.
I mean this also completely neglects the deeper analysis of the film from a societal point of view. The point is the only way to get people to share is through force, at the end it takes violence to get order, this is supposed to be analogous to authoritarian communist regimes like those of the USSR or Castro's Cuba. People will NOT choose right is the message, we are greedy under capitalism, and those who kill and steal end up at the top and only those who are good hearted and have the power and will to protect those lower levels can bring this out (specifically with violence), this is what Marx called the vanguard party. The movie is a marxist interpretation of capitalistic society through an extended metaphor.
@@mfvitt8000 I think vanguardism is from Lenin. Marx believed that the proletariat would naturally become revolutionary.
deeply unserious
@jygb7092 right because society used to be sooo perfectly equal when it was run by religion
@jygb7092 my point exactly
This is a very sad, yet almost accurate depiction of human society where people will eat all the each and don’t care about the people on other floors below them so that they can eat alll the food
Its not an accurate depcition
Wealth isn't given to you, you make it.
The movie where people eat other people’s meat if you catch my drift
@@AureliusLaurentius1099 so rich people don't have children?
@@AureliusLaurentius1099 Oh you innocent soul... I pray that you never find out how things really work.
The point is the only way to get people to share is through force, at the end it takes violence to get order, this is supposed to be analogous to authoritarian communist regimes like those of the USSR or Castro's Cuba. People will NOT choose right is the message, we are greedy under capitalism, and those who kill and steal end up at the top and only those who are good hearted and have the power and will to protect those lower levels can bring this out (specifically with violence), this is what Marx called the vanguard party. The movie is a marxist interpretation of capitalistic society through an extended metaphor. This does not make it right or wrong but its important to remember that the actual message of this movie is the same as the message of Stalin and Mao, now whether you agree with that or not is up to you but there is a lot more reading to be done than just this oversimplified metaphor.
That was one of the craziest insane movies i've ever seen, saw it on netflix when i used to have it, it wasn't in English either, had to watch it with subtitles.
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Movies like this deserve more recognition. They truly depict the injustice in our society
What injustice? They implemented socialism hard in this film and they drastically failed.
@ibm30rpg i hope you didnt expect an actual intellectual response from any of these simpletons. 😅
So this movie is literally "trickle-down economics" in food form
Not exactly. 'Trickle-down' economics postulate that the people at the top want to make ever more money, but cannot without employing more people. If those at the top make more (through tax breaks etc.) then they will supposedly invest that back into the economy, creating more jobs and more goods for those who would otherwise be unemployed. The theory falls apart however, when those receiving the aid just pocket the extra cash rather than re-investing, or when the system fails to account for the fact that by making everything cheaper, you ultimately flood the market, goods go unsold and businesses start closing. The market itself can only handle so much at a base level, before it starts to collapse under the strain of inflation and devalued currency.
Trickle-down is not just the rich being selfish and short-sighted - that is only a part of the equation. The other end is that all of mankind's existence has been characterized by scarcity of resources. Every system we have, from the economic, to the moral, to the biological, is based on the idea that we will not always have everything we want or need. When situations are created where we DO have plenty, nothing about what we have created or even what we _are_ is designed with that situation in mind. Sadly, a minimal level of scarcity is necessary for any human-designed system to work.
No its capitalism
Hahaha truuuue
And it works just as well 💪
@@Schimml0rd Please be sarcasm
That's a bad analogy, because in the real world, you are not trapped on your floor, relying on the largesse of those above you. In the real world, you can escape your "floor" and make your life better. I did.
If you haven’t seen this you need to! It is such a great film and it is a film that makes you think hard about what you would do in each scenario presented (based on which level the characters find themselves on). I like psychological thrillers because they stay with you. This film did not disappoint and there is a lot to analyze with this film. I recommend 10/10
Best strategy is to eat as much as you can when you are at the high floors so that you build up strength and fat to survive low floors. Also killing others gets you to the higher floors, which is all the more reason to eat as much as possible when you can to stay fit.
Whats the title?
completely unscientific understanding of sociological development and therefore deeply unserious.
Don't tell us to watch it WITHOUT TELLING US THE NAME!!!!
The movie name is... The Poop Shoot
Wow this was incredible, sad, and genuinely emotional. Honestly a great movie!
i have a theory that the level you’re placed in is determined by the amount of food you take each day and adds up at the end of the month
Watch the real movie and you’ll know
in the movie those who kill and do bad things are placed higher
What you skipped is, that he had to stay there for 6 months for study reasons, and he was allowed to pick anything in the prison with him. And bro chose a book
That was mentioned in the beginning
That was mentioned in the beginning
That was mentioned in the beginning
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it doesn't matter when the system is unalterably corrupt when you can't change people in denial, because you can change yourself. Overcoming the need for external validation and offering yourself as a self-directed sacrifice to serve others engenders an ecstasy greater than a thousand lifetimes of bliss.
Facts.. once U see the Joy You bring in helping Genuinely it becomes addictive and You keep craving for that satisfaction all Ur Life
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Imagine how sad the last person to get the table would be 😭😭
There would not even be a table at the last room
There's so many really obscure but super-interesting movies out there that I never knew about. This channel is my source for finding out about them.
tbh most are not that obscure they are just foreign films
"Hey John, you said you want the Jelly and what?"
"And some chicken, not much tho!"
"Got it! Oh, and tell the fellas down that i ate the fish since not much people enjoyed it last time i'm at the bottom!"
"Sorry pal, i'd spread the news for the people down here"
"Much appreciate! Enjoy your diner too, boys!"
Watched this during lockdown after my friend recommended it, it's a fantastic film. I know it's allegorical/metaphorical for society etc, but at the time all I could think of was that it was pretty similar to the great toilet roll shortage situation of covid19 😬🙃
Or even closer to the movie; when Churchill during ww2 took all grain from India to fill the British stockpiles incase of a prolonged shortage while the Indian population was dying of starvation due to this XD
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bro you know theres actual third world countries right
@@Tozzie50these simpletons arent too bright
@@dokwalk im a retard too but fr like😭
my question is how is it possible that that big of a guy and the guy with a sword both survive for so long on a such deep level without eating eachother
maybe they went down together on an earlier day to eat other people. been a while since I watched this movie, but I don't remember the dudes ever being explained in any way
This Movie is an underRated Masterpiece
Facts
Imagine the horror of shuffling 333 levels or carrying 666 people (dead or alive) around in less than a day...Building a 333 levels prisoner is already an almost impossible feat, it is more than 2 times higher than Burg Khalifa!
Such a building could never possibly exist in the world. It could only exist in the biblical hell to be maintained via super natural means.
can build it downward
@@Novusod why not?
You could just stack 50 floors next to each other like 7 skyscrapers and just bring the platform back to the top for each skyscraper . But yes if it was all one place then he’ll no
This movie was definitely in the top 10 for me
When the platform raises from bottom floor I'd try using bunk beds in a vertical position in the hopes that if you get crushed from it's ascending it can prevent that.
Provided the top does just crush you, which we don't know.
If I recall correctly the very top is a kitchen with a lot of people cooking the food
@@giannih6484 is it in the movie??
@@indianspartan724 yes im ps
imagine if someone just ransacked the whole buffet instead of eating them and left nothing for anyone below lol
There was a story a friend told me. A guy dies and goes to judgement. He's found innocent and it's customary to show people who go to heaven hell. He's transported to a banquet table with the most wonderful food and people are confined to chairs with meter long fork and spoon tied to their hands, they try to get food to their mouths but just make a mess most of it falling on the ground. He then goes to heaven and its almost exactly the same but instead of trying to feed them selves they feed the person across the table and they don't drop any food and make a mess and are able to eat everything they want
This looks like an intriguing and thought provoking movie. Would love to see it.
Wouldn't be surprised if there is things like this in real life that the higher ups use as entertainment.
0:03 his first name is “Nasi”
*insert erika*
Good cope keep protesting footlocker
@@PigPissBeUponThem what
Middle name "ayam". P.s ( I ain't even Malaysian in just cultured like that)😊
Yes, it's about society, but I think a lot of people miss the part about the little girl.
The rule was that no one under 16 can enter. People just believed it because it was said from the leaders. The mother was looking for her daughter, but people didn't believe her. The leaders of the system don't care. They can make up anything, but they don't have to follow the rules.
Which is why everyone thought the mother was crazy when she alone knew the truth.
When he nonchalontaly said that the person above defficatted on the guys face climbing the rope i feel into maniacle laughter
I remember watching this movie for my Spanish final and had to watch it in Spanish with no subtitles it was definitely a crazy movie and kept me in got a 10/10 on the final when I wrote about it.
This movie is so crazy, kind of shook me when I watched it
RUclips guidelines are a joke. The knife needs to be blurred?
and yet an aircraft capable of killing thousands of people isnt
(not saying it should be)
If the platform comes down from the top then shoots back up after it reaches the bottom then there must be a level above room 1 where they prepare the food. So room 1 would most likely just be one level down from a possible escape or at least see what goes on.
This movie was crazy! By the time the table hits the bottom, despite being spit in and God knows what else, it is clean.
10:04 the way he falls after the kick 😂
He look like a Muppet falling 🤣
He look like a muppet falling 🤣
That movie was hoffifying, beautiful and genius. The acting is incredible and the scenes are so vivid you forget that the entire plot takes place between depressingly grey concrete wall. Can recommend watching the real thing before the recap :D
Wow. This breakdown and the comments I’m reading really shines a light in my head. Greed is crazy
But honestly I still don't understand the ending of this movie
Think of the ending as rebuff to the system.rhe whole movies is a commentary on society and how resources are distributed from the top down...but the systems we are all apart of operationalize the distribution of said resources....think about it a bit and you will find your own interpretation
This is not to take 1st degree, this movie is an allegory.
The prison is our society and the plateform is our ressources (money, food, whatever)
Our economical system makes us rise or go down the floors
Tramagazi represent the people who accept the system how it is and is ready to do anything to survive, even harm other people. He don't want to rise or go down, just to stay alive
Baharat represent the believer who think he can climb those floors by the only strenght of his will, but people are mean and will prevent his success. HE represent the ambitious who think society will grant him something if he work hard enough
Imogiri stand for the people who work for the establishment, keeping quiet while having a confortable life. She is an insider who knows that the system is tricked to give more to some
and less to others, while there is more than enough for everybody. But her sickness gave her an existential crisis and now she want to change people but her actions resumed to speak out flat advices that nobody listen to.
Miharu represent the parents who are ready to sacrifice themselves for their child. They would go to extreme lenght to ensure their child is safe, even sacrificing themselves.
Goreng is this random guy who would like to change society, but is completely overwhelmed by it and have no choice but to do what it force it to. At some point he find the courage and the support try something. When he find Miharu;s child, he realize that all this struggle for survival is ridiculous, and any attempt of changing society is pointless, because it is an automated system, a tower of beton, cold and soulless, that nobody is able to change.
Sending the child to the top is just a bottle in the sea, you realize your time is over and your efforts gave no results, but you place all your hope in your child, hoping that he will be accepted up there, for a better life than you had.
The ending is really dark, it's not about making people up there realize what's going on, it's about trying to save the child, at least, since you cannot save anybody else
The protagonist sends up the kid in order to get the administration to shut down the prison since they likely don't know that there is a child in the prison. The ending doesn't show if it works but your left wondering if the kid represents a false hope that change is possible or a real hope that change will really come. Each character in the prison are symbols of hope, courage, doubt, distrust, etc it's supposed to represent the upper class hoarding resources while the lower classes suffer.
@@menalgharbwalsharq648 perfect interpretation.
@@speedysloth2868 there’s no way the child got out. How many other people would have thought about just riding the platform? They would’ve had a failsafe
why is the knife blurred?
Might have got the video restricted
you know you dont gotta blur the knife like who hasn't seen a knife before
There is a deep and meaningful message somewhere in this story
When a movie tries to be profound but is repeating the same message as every dystopian movie
"Rich people bad, but that your fault." -every dystopia movie
The movie is called "The Platform" 2019 - I really wish if they would create a roguelike game version of something very similar to this. The movie is awesome and I think it would work so well as a game version similar to it's premise.
Crazy, I had to scroll down to see this comment section like 333 comments down , finally someone said the title!
Thanks for actually dropping the title since the uploaders didn't care to
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@jaysong.292 Right? If they loved it so much ...WHY. Just say it
This is one of the best movie of our time. I would urge everyone to watch this movie rather than it's recap.
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What I found the most interesting is how the table has 2000 calories (a healthy amount an adult person should eat every day) for every person in the prison, but greed kills those on the bottom.
Do we know this for sure?
While I appreciate the message of this movie I think they leaned a bit too heavily into metaphor. Desperate food shortages, killing and eating your cell mate, nothing was too far. We can tell by the lift not stopping and penalties for keeping food. I don't see how sending a child who's mother had been desperately searching for for months, to the psychopaths running this place will help. The admins know she was constantly riding the lift down since they track the food and deaths. There is a giant hole in the movies logic, suddenly there is more floors than anticipated and therefore the food allotment is back to not being enough.
On top of that the prison staff put a child on the bottom level knowing the child won't get food... its insanity to think that anything would change by sending the kid back up. The prison sent the kid down there to die in the first place. I understand that at the end most of this was most likely the main character hallucinating, but the unstinting belief in "the system" that sending a child back up points out a problem should have been broken after he was forced into cannibalism even though the guards can easily access all of the cells since they change their locations every month.
The point is the only way to get people to share is through force, at the end it takes violence to get order, this is supposed to be analogous to authoritarian communist regimes like those of the USSR or Castro's Cuba. People will NOT choose right is the message, we are greedy under capitalism, and those who kill and steal end up at the top and only those who are good hearted and have the power and will to protect those lower levels can bring this out (specifically with violence), this is what Marx called the vanguard party. The movie is a marxist interpretation of capitalistic society through an extended metaphor. This does not make it right or wrong but its important to remember that the actual message of this movie is the same as the message of Stalin and Mao, now whether you agree with that or not is up to you but there is a lot more reading to be done than just this oversimplified metaphor.
Sometimes a movie is a movie rather than a thought provoking event on film.
"While the dog steals some food" typical dog😂😂😂
Next level chef prison edition.... Gordon must be proud
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God this film was so freaking good. Ending was a LITTLE weak, but over all absolutely worth watching.
Man people need to read up on how the Tit-for-Tat system worked.
It has not only been proved logically but, also statistically that people do better in the long run if they cooperate together, set boundaries, and also forgive.
It’s a tough prison just like this world
wtf i thought you died and you're so low
bro i totally forgot about you
@@suli__. but I remember you
@@RayMak what in the sigma😟
Watching this movie would be akin to witnessing a gory battlefield where humanity's most gruesome struggle for survival ever is being waged.. Brilliant, great, riveting, unparalleled...
She really offed herself because of a dang dog??? 😂😂😂
I really enjoyed this movie, it went places I really didn't expect
Some of the most unique and interesting story.
2 minutes is more than enough time to allow me to wold down that entire table filled with food 😂
After seeing this on Netflix a month or two ago, It's confusing but very good
I swear, every one of these movie recaps are freaky as hell
Problem with people is that they care only about themselves and they do care in the short run. They don’t think of the future. It is the main problem of humanity that will lead them to the end.
Are we not gonna talk about how some woman takes a poor dog into a filthy and desperate prison? Literally the dog can starve to death and it's kind of cruel.
Esta película es una pasada y no tuvo el reconocimiento que se merecía hasta que Netflix la popularizó. Viva el cine español
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Me 1 year ago: A book? Interesting..
Me now: LIMBUS COMPANYYYYYyy
This is my favorite horror movie on Netflix. It’s so good, I’ve watched it probably a dozen times and showed it to numerous people.
Try “the Circle”. I think you will like that movie too
Will it still be good even after the recap
@@mrorganic13 I absolutely love the ending, and this spoils it. So it would definitely hinder the experience your first time watching.
@@Blabbus25 saw the trailer. But did not watch. I'll give it a try
It's more of a Kafkan allegory than a horror film.
One of my all time favorite movies.
I’m so new, what’s the name of it??
@@m.u.sik4evaThe Platform. I absolutely loved it. I have watched it several times.