Hell Let Loose: Commander MASTER CLASS
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2022
- The best way to learn is from experience. Here's some POV Commander gameplay showing communication and strategy.
Buy HLL or other games and support the channel: www.nexus.gg/monoespacial
Mono's Game Club Podcast:
🎧 Spotify open.spotify.com/show/07qGNBW...
Catch my livestreams on Twitch: www.twitch.com/monoespacial_yt.
💰 Support me by becoming Member on RUclips!
Discord/Twitter/Twitch: linktr.ee/monoespacial 
Игры
![Hell Let Loose - Flipping a LOST game [Commander Master Class #2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hvGs3lBK9iY/mqdefault.jpg)
![Hell Let Loose - Flipping a LOST game [Commander Master Class #2]](/img/tr.png)
15:38
Wrong. Commander carries the same cap weight as everyone else
You're right, this was changed at some point. It used to be that commander had more weight
@@monoespacial Dudes just out here sharing fake news 😂 love you buddy
@@cptdarkon5946 SHAME
@@monoespacial people LOVE to point out mistakes lol
@@cyph3r.427 HEY BUDDY YOU'RE WRONG
Last night played 4 long games in a row, with the same squad leaders, same commander, and my own squad members. The game really really REALLY shines on those moments. Team work. Makes the dream work
I tried zooming in on the map with the scroll wheel, then remembered it was a video......
LOL!!!! It happens to me when I watch streams!
🤣🤣😂😂 yep done that 😜
Supply drops can be put in some “out of bounds” places, on roofs, inside inaccessible courtyards and in rivers. Look for greyed out areas on urban maps.
Really helpful if you have a pain in the ass recon on the other team that keeps finding your supplies.
Great idea - thanks
Can the enemy recons see supplies on their map? I thought it was line of sight only?
"audio edited to highlight the voices"
nearby truck: "*HONK* *HOOOONK*!!!1!1!!"
“Tell your Blueberries to not think…to not take initiative”
Oh my hell, that made me laugh way to hard, but its true! This is also the type of content that will get me to support your RUclips, definitely want to see more of this.
As someone who's recently gotten into the commander role, this helps immensely. Preciate your input. Never really thought about using half-tracks as efficiently as you do.
You can also use them as attack garrisons that never get locked. However I'd advice against this unless you have surplus fuel AND a secure way to get into enemy territory.
Yes I need this. Im a "forever officer" and can never get the courage to get out of the role
Really like the new format. I'd been wishing there was a youtube video doing play-by-play analysis of the commander role. Excited to learn new strategies!
Calling all blueberries - do not think! 😂 initiative denied
Awesome video! Just a few things I would have done differently. 1. Communicate with squad leaders about things that probably have no relevance to strategy due to map confusion. 2. Place garrison's where enemies could easily find and destroy them. 3. Lead my team to an embarrassing and demoralizing defeat. Other than those I think you did juuuust fine.
I don’t know, I thought the part where he said that Blueberries shouldn’t think or take initiative was very wrong to say. #BlueberryLivesMatter
4. Don't place any garrisons.
"Can you guys tell your blueberries not to think or take initiative?"
THANK YOU 🙏 Love guides like these!
90% of the effectiveness of command is having SLs that actually cooperate...
Things that this match had that I often don't... SLs recommending options for garrison, established defensive squads that don't just leave... And SLs that try to replace removed garrisons...
Those three things alone mean the commander can actually deploy real tactics and really help the team.
This is exactly how I've been using half-tracks.
Love this concept for a series
I always drop supplies right in the beginning behind enemy lines. They normally do not see them. This is a simple way, to build later in the game a perfekt attack garrison.
This is going to be a fire series
The biggest responsibility of the commander is to hold your team from pushing all to the next point😅
My man this is what I need, I need to refine my commander skills and this tipe of videos are best for that.
I really like these videos. I just started playing on console, and I'm finding a lot of games with no commander. So, I would hop in as commander and listen to the more experienced players. Hopefully, I won't find myself in that position, but it's better to know for when I do.
Love your videos Mono, they are very helpful. I wish more people would spend time studying tactics and procedures in this game. - I tend to be less mobile than you and drop supplies more frequently. I'll drop them into locations that are well behind the front lines. They are basically unusable at the time of the drop, but are ready for use when we advance. That technique works most of the time, as the enemy isn't looking for them that far back. Keep the vids coming my friend, and maybe we'll cross paths in the game -=ROAD-KiLL=-
Yeah, I drop supplies in advance deep into enemy territory as well.
However as commander, if you're not moving or inside a cap sector that's being attacked or defended, you are losing a lot
In some maps (Remagen/PHL) I will use artillery as commander and rely more on Squad Leaders for garrison placement.
Turned around a couple matches like this, what a great comeback and win
Thank you. I usually end up playing squad leader when everyone sits in the new game lobby waiting for someone to make a squad, so I'll eventually have to learn Commander under the same circumstances lmao
I love playing Squad Leader, shit is cash money. Commander is still a little daunting though
Very helpful video, always good to see some POV. What I have trouble with as commander is half the games I get in (besides Remagen), random enemies are already killing me in my supply truck by the time I'm trying to place my 2nd or 3rd garrison myself. Ofc I ask squad leaders to help build them and designate some to do so, but sometimes they never do. The games I have the toughest time are the ones I can't get up garries myself sometimes. A video or tips on how to deal with enemy AT or recons picking off the commander while driving supply trucks/half tracks in the back line could be useful.
I'd say switching the location of where you spawn the halftrack, for example. If you're getting killed on mid-hq, move somewhere else.
Also, I've found one of the best ways to get people to do what you need is for example "Hey there's a full squad in D6 camping everything that leaves HQ. I can't help you if we don't deal them and we won't be able to attack with enemies constantly taking down our only spawns".
Basically, explain WHAT is going on, WHY they should help and WHAT they lose if they don't. If I have good attack garrisons and I need squads to defend I'll say "Hey we have really good attack garrisons, we can fall back to attack any time, but if you don't redeploy to defend right now, all that is going to be lost in the next minute. Fall back, defend, let's clear them out and then we can just go back to where we were"
@@monoespacial Thank you for the response, love the videos!
Can confirm, when commanding your looking at the map 80% of the match!
Nice mono thanks a lot ;)
I can't lie, though, as a player who primarily plays recon, the 'strafing run' defense to a contested garrison is pretty dastardly.
Really only works on garrisons in locked territory. If you do it in active zones they will have it dismantled before the plane shoots.
Love this
Well played !
MONO perfect timing. I joined a game a few nights ago, and no one built a garrison first few mins of the match. I'm waiting to spawn in... waiting waiting.... said F IT, ive never been a commander, ive watched mono's videos, lets give it a try!! dropped supplies so a gari can be built when we eventually lose the mid obj.
all the squads pass the supplies, and i dont get a gari built till 3 mins after.
only a few minutes in, i get teamkilled!! are you Sh!tn me!!
Finally some people start asking for stuff, I answer, but not a single squad built their own garrison.
I tried re-enforcing, no one went in. no nodes. we got swept so fast.
That was my first experience... how awesome!!! probably my last now.. maybe ill try again ha we will see
If I ever consistently get this amount of cooperation on console I’m buying a lottery ticket 😭 biggest difference I’ve seen between the two platforms is that there is so much more cooperation and (useful) communication between SL’s
Depends on the game. Sometimes no one will talk at all except for Panther please or Supplies!! Other times they just talk about random stuff and you can't hear requests sometimes.
Great teaching tool
I had the same problem with the frame rate drop when in a fire fight.
Thanks!
Great video, would love to see more of this. Question: Is building with the engineer just a meme since it uses supplies that could be used for garrisons?
As a support player myself i find that - in most matches - you will have supples up more often then you need for the placement of garrisons. So if there are enough supporters just dropping their supplies as soon as they are off cooldown you can actually built a ton of stuff. But for most players they just sit in their inventory and are only used 4-5 times per match when you need a garry :/
Nodes or anything else that the engineer can build should always be secondary to garrisons.
Building nodes with a supply truck in the first 2 rows is overrated as you can build nodes with the 100 remaining supplies you drop for each garrison. It is much faster to do this (and cheaper) instead of having an engineer drive a supply truck from base.
Unless you are losing 4-1 in the first few minutes, it won't make a difference.
@@monoespacial IMO I don't really like nodes on leftover supply because if we lost the sector we lost those nodes and no supply left for garrison (since the drop from truck is just enough to build 1 blue zone and 1 red zone after). And also if one enemy spot the garry they spot those nodes,with some coordination they'll get satcheled in no time. But overall some nodes are better than none. If I have time as a cmdr I just drop 2 boxes on the 2nd line then go back to resupply. Or even supply drop on HQ.
@@maijaja123 well, of you've got good garrisons you shouldn't be losing the 2nd sector. The game overwhelmingly favors defense due to how spawns work.
If you lose that 2nd sector, you just get people to build nodes again. I don't think all nodes should be built that way but you don't need all of them to be built in the first sector either.
@@maijaja123 Can also build in HQ with support supplies before match starts. Normally do this with friends. If you are alone you can also place one down on your own supplies.
Finallly i can understand thing about Commander
Had a game the other day where I knew our commanders experience level at this game. Told my squad he knows more than us so if you want to win just do what he says.
Any server you would recommend on playing? I have been bouncing around and it has been more difficult find more experienced HLL games.
Got our ass kicked all game long by a very good team with armor prowess on Foy. After hanging on last point. Called in a airspawn with less than 10 to go, captured N30. High tailed it NW behind Southern Edge to put up a Garrison on some pre dropped supplies. Called in another airspawn NE, redeployed to artillery and layed down smoke for my guys. Took Southern Edge with 1:14 left and won the game.
8:32 red zone garry locks within 100m, this seems a bit too close, I would drop it more in the corner of C5 sector, so you can both attack from there and have next garries there for the attack.
I kind of agree with you on the precision strike, because it's definitely very expensive. BUT often it's also very helpful. And if you have all sets of nodes... I almost ever kill the tank with this strike, and often this is very important to defend/ attack a point. You just need a good spotter, who knows when the tank got in a new stationary position.
And is there a reason why you don't let them build there nodes in the *I sector* ? It's possible to build a defend garrison around there and drop supplies around. That makes it very easy for them to build nodes in the save sector. But on the other side, it's pretty impressive how you defend the 3rd point. It looks almost impregnable with all the garrisons and halftracks.
6:31 whats the orange/red circle on the map to the west-northwest of the strongpoint? I keep seeing it in my matches but ive never had anyone know what it is
Recon flare
I wish they would fix the HQ sawn coming crap. Cool video thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
Mono, why do you rotate the Garrison before placing it? Does the direction it points affect where the players spawn?
For bonus style points..... Nah, sometimes you gotta rotate it to make it fit where you want it to. Doesn't affect the spawns.
More good stuff
Curious why you threw that bombing run at 5:50. Wouldn't you normally want to wait until attacking squads are in position to push the point and capitalize on their garry being down? Seems like would probably have enough time to rebuild it now.
Good guide btw, love your videos!
I wasn't looking to cap the next point, I was looking to give my team time to properly set up around SME. We did have a few garrisons but the push from the german side onto the church is a relatively easy one since you can take control of the buildings in front of the church quite easily.
Given the location of that garrison was known and it's a position that's far away from the next point they had, chances are after dropping that garrison they didn't have the 3 factors needed to rebuild it: an officer, a support player and the actual intelligence and will to do it.
So yeah, it was basically a way to decompress and allow my team to push into that area and gain a foothold south of their next point.
@@monoespacial Nice, never thought about it like that. So it basically allows your team to push up a few hundred metres while the enemy needs to get the garry back up. Makes perfect sense!
only thing i would have done differently Mono is I would have dropped an Ammo Crate instead of supply drop before the Airhead. they look similar
The 1 thing I like about hell let loose the most is it’s very existence
At least precision strike is very cool man
omg he's driving and using his iPad at the same time
I argue that the ammo drop is not entirely useless. I’ve used it to great success to cover up a airhead drop
rolled my eyes as soon as you pulled out that last airhead, but otherwise, pretty much how I do things. Rare to have so much fuel though
Ok....
@@monoespacial lol, you pointed it out yourself, it was a mistake XD
@@commandercrane2563 lol, yeah, I'm sorry, I make so many vids I didn't remember. I though you were just being mean 🙃
@@monoespacial Yeah I figured that. We need big content creators teaching how to command.
Could you make a video about how to herd blueberries when their movements defy logic?
Maybe at some point. The main way to herd them is by garrison placement. Place flanking garrisons instead of garrisons that offer a straight line to the enemy strong point.
Controlling where they can spawn is 99% of what you need to do to get blueberries where you want them.
@@monoespacial thanks :)
I tried so many times to tell the blueberries that they need to remain in the active 4 squares to count towards the cap rate.
One time someone in the chat said it's any square in the relevant columns or rows... Basically undid all my begging with one indirect comment.
Such as essential piece of knowledge and the lack of basic tutorial really lets this down.
This is really cool I'm glad someone developed this kind of game!
Is it possible to play as commander every game?
I like Enlisted but man I don't want to pay to win I'd much rather pay to play once
Can see that your team didn't use tanks. I usually use one offensive and one defensive half track and save the rest of the fuel for tanks & trucks.
Yeah, sometimes it happens. You can win without tanks though. You can't win without garrisons.
NOICE!
I keep trying to zoom in on the map to see things 😅
Within Two minutes in the video and I immediately tell this is not HLL public server, or at least your not typical HLL public server. Squad leaders are responding to the commander more frequently and doing commander orders. Not only that but the leadership comms aren't cluttering (They don't talk over each other). I think this is a seeded clan public server.
It's Saucymuffin's server (pub match). You can find this match on my Twitch VODs.
F yeah. 🤙🔥
Can you actually explain what your doing when your doing it for a master class video on commander?
Next video is a 4-1 loss to 5-0 on Utah where I do a lot more explaining.
Can you expand on how to find enemy garrisons working with recon?
I don't specifically work with the recon team to find enemy garrisons. That was something I did in the video because they happened to be where I thought a garrison could be.
I don't tend to give squads any specific orders, but if I do, it's mostly based on their current position than anything else. Like "Hey Item squad, could you go back 100m and build a garrison?". That tends to work better than saying "Item squad, please stay on defense". Most squads don't understand that defending means building garrisons and will instead sit inside the strongpoint and wait to get surrounded by the enemy.
@@monoespacial Interesting, my recon searches usually run between offensive and defensive strong point what you did there was definitely something new to the tool kit of game strategy, thank you.
08:40 (Almost) never put a supply truck in mid HQ ^^
This is awesome people say I suck at commander so hopefully this helps
Are you level X Squad Leader?
@@monoespacial No a level 6
@@adstractalex2781 Keep playign SL. Make sure you're learning from it: Learn garrison placement. Learn how to defend properly (not from inside the strongpoint). A good SL makes a good commander, most of the time.
Omg. A command chat where everyone isn't screaming and joking around??
its really cool this kind of guides, but I think that you should put context to what you are doing, why you drive supplies to does points in particular what you recommend depending on the situation ( defend/attack etc). Estan geniales tus videos Mono!.
I will talk more next time i play commander and go over.my thought process.
@@monoespacial could have muted the vid and just talked over it. In other words edit the video, play it in the background, and explain things as the video goes. Pause it if you need to, and of course cut out parts that don't matter. Maybe include audio in section if it needs it. That's a lot of editing, but i best you could make a quick more efficient video doing so, and comprise it down to like 10 mins
@Rockagamez the entire point of this video and the one I uploaded after it is to show you how often I communicate with the squads, what I tell them and so on.
I explained a lot more of my thought process in the next one as I was playing, but the point really is to show commander gameplay. I've done over 10 videos on tactics and strategy, and specific ones on commander abilities and priorities. So those videos are already out there.
Also there's no way to compress a 90min match into 10min and have it show what the commander gameplay consists of, I think.
@@monoespacial it was just a suggestion mono. Don't overcomplicate it either. There are very key things people need to understand about commander class, there are a bunch of different things you did you could easily highlight.
There's a lot of footage in that vid that is just noise. You think you need to go over every tid bit cause you know what you're doing so you think oh they need to see this, this, that, and that.
The reality is there are very important things you can narrow down to highlight when it comes to a "master class".
Honestly you need the perfect match where it ebbs and flows for someone to really understand what to do as a commander. A stomping like this over 20 mins like just a small tip on an iceberg
@@rockagamez7704 Here is a map that is back and forth: ruclips.net/video/hvGs3lBK9iY/видео.html
Here is the commander video "theory" video: ruclips.net/video/PrSSV-bCSCEm/видео.html
Between those 2 videos I think it covers a very comprehensive look at the commander.
So basically, Commander = Truck driving simulator 2022? Jokes aside, it does look kinda fun and I want to try it some time. What do we think about a possible new feature where the Commander can have a squad of 1-2 people to act as dedicated logistics support, so the Commander can actually do some shooting every now and then?
Wait the recon plane can spot Garrys?????? Or were you just inferring its location based on red dot proximity?
Inferring
@@monoespacial gotcha! Good to know. I've never tried command, but I'm thinking of giving it a go soon
"This sucks".
Yeah, the turret on a half-track looks like a 360 ring but it has like 15 degrees of rotation. It's awful.
Commanders setting up Garrys should be secondary to everything else. SL should be setting up garrys recently the lack of good SL has been noticeable.
Secondary to what else?
Commanders are uniquely suited to build garrisons. Squad leaders have an entire squad that depends on them for positioning.
If your squad leaders are running around the back line building garrisons, then that's a full squad that is not getting an outpost where they should in order to engage the enemy. The commander on the other hand can build most of the Garrisons you need without doing that sacrifice.
That's not to say that squad leaders shouldn't be building garrisons, they absolutely should. But to argue that it shouldn't be the commander's number one priority is entirely wrong.
@@monoespacial Secondary to mapwork and squad management, Right now every game I play everyone is waiting on the Commander to build all the garrisons nobody does any forward thinking which should not be the case. Commander should build back and defensive garrisons while dropping supplies and ordering SL to build garrisons. So its not entirely wrong.The commander should be delegating but not building everything on the map. I see a lot of this and it spoils many people into thinking that the commander will build all of the garrisons and so it is expected and no initiative is taken. Then the commander gets railed because he didn't do enough which is rather unfair.
The way I see it is, the commanders no1 priority is to make sure garrisons are where they need to be. How you achieve that goal is going to depend on a bunch of things.
It's it's by building then yourself out by getting others to do it, the objective and the priority is the same.
What in-game name do you use?
Same as the channel: monoespacial
Sucks when your team has great garrisons but get taken down immediately. Gotta protect your garrisons. Too many ppl just run staight to the fight.
Honestly I'm ready for update dark coming from PS5 I am ready to try out the new air strike the new flare guns and the new night variants in the new tanks can they please hurry up
I got completely sick of playing PC games on console and waiting for them to catch up. I waited 2 years for a fucking Stellaris DLC. finish with that shit, I got myself a rig, a pc, you should too
7 months between updates had been the norm
I play command a lot big thing dont place flamking garisons, idiots will all span and leave the point
Whenever I play commander, literally no one responds or does anything useful
2:3 of my command roles are the same.
It's the reason no one with experience wants to take the role I think, - they can't be bothered to look at the screen, powerless to do anything effective.
Then a lvl 20 takes the role and does a weak job.
They need to add a vote system to remove bad commander's I had a commander the other day that was sabotaging the game by removing all our garrisons an like 8 of us were forced to spawn camp our commander so he couldn't keep removing our garrisons it was ridiculous
Ammo drop is to distract more than to help tbh
Not bad, I can offer some changes but over all good. The actual problem try commanding when everyone on your team is new and not willing to use thier mics.
This game is so photorealistic that any other game I play seems cartoony or plastic. Thank you HLL for ruining any other game for me! =)
The Commander should not be doing all the hard work ;)
Everything good. Only criticism is that you are 45 min into the game and have not dropped a single airhead yet. I'll personally drop one immediately at the beginning of the match when the enemy is over-extended and keep dropping them really all game. If you do not want to start a flank and have your team over-extended on a flank airhead, then drop it kinda close to their cap. Worst thing that can happen is that they destroy the airhead, the best case is that your team effectively teleports very close to their cap. There is essentially no reason to float the airhead ability and that much manpower all game. You could've dropped 4 or 5 airheads by the time you finally used the ability once. Float is generally bad unless you are saving resources or abilities for something.
High level commanders know when the enemy team is over-extended and can cheese the enemy. There are so many opportunities to drop airheads all game, especially relatively close ones.
I disagree, dropping an airhead early can definitely lead to your team overextending. At the beginning of the round you don't really know what the team is like so I rather consolidate our defense and have an organic push rather than use an airhead.
I WOULD use an airhead immediately on a map like Remagen though.
You mention the worst thing that can happen is they destroy the airhead. Airheads aren't cheap. At 400 manpower the loss of an airhead is quite significant I think. Especially early on it can mean not being able to pop Encouraged.
Dropping an airhead close so as to prevent the team from overextending is a water of resources as I'd rather they gain that map control through the ground as well.
@@monoespacial no. Overextending your team is all up to you in how close you drop the airhead. Either 1) your team teleports close to their hard cap or 2) the airhead gets destroyed. Either way your team is not overextended.
400MP is not a lot at all. Check your resources in the video at 45min and look at your float. It’s an opportunity cost.
There is a waste when you’re floating. You’re wasting abilities and resources by floating. It’s an opportunity cost.
@@BuyNYCstocks where would you have dropped the airhead?
Also what do you mean by "floating"?
@@monoespacial well firstly I’d drop it the second it came off cooldown especially after you capped 3-2 and have done it pretty close to their cap. Your chances of capping in a pub match on this is very high because their team is over extended trying to attack mid. Another benefit is that dropping constant airheads takes high level players and/or whole squads essentially out of the frontline as they are constantly on edge and typically only the better squads defend. The idea of airheads is to cheese the enemy and brutally abuse the ability to break the game.
@@BuyNYCstocks I rather play conservatively, tbh.
I think you just have a different style and prioritize different things. I've been in games with you as commander, if your in-game name is the same as here.
I disagree that spamming airheads whenever you can is good.
You’re wasting time driving back just respawn a new supply truck at HQ and just respawn it’s only 100 points?
It’ll take 5-6min to drive back reload and drive back just suicide and jump in new truck or just ask people to bring it up to a spawn and park it off side and you can grab it
I'm not wasting time. I'm still doing a ton of things: looking at the map, communicating, etc. I'd rather trade that 100, 200 or whatever fuel for munitions. 100 fuel can be converted to 60 munitions which doesn't sound like a lot but munitions are way more important than fuel, I think.
I use that time to think where I actually want to drive the truck next.
If there's a free support truck that spawned then yeah, I'll redeploy and grab it.
How is this a „masterclass“? You hardly explain stuff, you don’t really annage squads, a lot of your garris are getting taken out…