18 years old raised Lutheran. After a longtime of not going to church regularly, I’ve come to the truth of the Catholic Church. Confirmation this Easter!!! Praise be to God
@@dominiccugliari2282 friend you should do your research. The first time "A church" was called catholic was in 110, but this was base on those that were a lined with it. Do your math. By 381 the catholic church wasn't the same. And changed as "Roman Catholic Church." Sometimes we do our history, but we don't go all the way deep to reading what is not convenient. Romans brought in there culture, policies, laws, habits, morals, etc.... to the Catholic Church. Before Constantine, people had to come by a name which helped them be protected by those persecuting them. And those a lined by the Catholic Church had to say they were Catholic. I recommend you read everything you can read about Constantine and the cult of Isis and Mithraic. Read about "what happen to those that worship a God by the name of Diana in the bible?" Now..... Friend, if I were to tell you just by reading the bible would you find yourself to be catholic? Like; would you ever know about the Hail Mary prayer without any catholic telling you? Would you ever believe that a dead saint can actually speak for you while he or she is in heaven? Would you ever believe peter was the first Pope? Would you ever believed in the purgatory? What about the remembrance in the statues or images? These are just a few things. But what I want to get to is this. Do you really believe Christ is going to recognize you by being called catholic? Is he going to recognize you by a certain church building? I'm no where close to being called catholic. But..... I can say we are the church for following christ. But one thing is to say it. And the other thing is that Christ can recognize you as his church which is way different. I don't mean to sound smart. Nor did I comment you to be mean. Just thought maybe you can use a push on some subjects or maybe give you a few thoughts to open.
“Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.” Galatians 2:16. “For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.” Romans 3:28. “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
nosuchthing8 we know based on what we know the Jews considered cannon throughout their history, and it was never any of the apocrypha. The apocrypha were around, but they weren’t considered divinely inspired by any Jews, or by Jesus and the believers in the New Testament. How many pieces from the apocrypha are quoted by Jesus and the apostles? Oh yeah, zero. Why? They weren’t canonical, they weren’t Gods word.
I'm not Catholic and I believe faith without works is dead but I am not saved because of my works. I'm saved because of Christ's finished work. Is this not what protestants teach? How is this not what the bible teaches?
“Faith without works is dead”. You said it! That’s what the Catholic Church teaches and if that’s what your church teaches and what you believe great! The issue is the vast majority of Protestant sects, with the exception of yourself, emphasize “faith alone” to exclude works. Regarding salvation, yes you are not saved by works alone, but by your faith in Jesus-A faith which encompasses Belief and WORKS, because as you said faith is hollow (dead) without the other. Hope this helps, God bless you
First off, it's hard to nail down what protestants teach because there are over 40,000 denominations and sects within protestantism, each with it's own set of doctrines and biblical interpretations. Like Tim said in the video, some protestant groups are moving back to an understanding of "faith AND works." That it is our faith in Christ that gives us the grace to do great works in His name, and bring His light to the world. However, a lot of protestants (including Martin Luther himself) insisted that no works were required. In fact, Martin Luther famously said "If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world." So not only did he preach against needing works WITH faith, he advocated for us to sin boldly because it was our faith alone. This, of course, ignores Jesus' own words in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." (many of his commandments through the New Testament being works-based; alms giving, loving our neighbor as He loved us, praying for our enemies, evangelizing all nations would be a few examples.)
Jesus also said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you will not have life within you." Protestants don't agree on what that means. They have a false, man-made "church" without the Body and Blood of Christ
As a Catholic, I feel like Protestants think that Catholics believe they are saved by works ALONE. Of course not! The works don’t count if they are not rooted in faith in love. God bless anyone reading this comment.
What do you mean your a Catholic, Catholic means universal, that is someone who belongs to a universal church, it doesn't mean the protestant church or the Roman church. So think about it, what are you ?
Romans 11:6 and if by grace then it is no more of works, otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace, otherwise work is no more work.
Actually, according to the Council of Trent, the doctrine of Grace is anathemized, and the Roman church believes its adherents are saved through the Eucharist and sacraments.
@@franciscoscaramanga9396 that is u biblical. Read Romans 1-5 and you will see why salvation is based on faith and belief for righteousness.. not rudiments of the world. There's a lot of ways the Catholic Church is simply wrong, just like the Methodist Baptist and pentacostals churches are incorrect. There's a difference between the truth and religion.
Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For it is by grace(A) you have been saved,(B) through faith(C)-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works,(D) so that no one can boast.(E) Isaiah says our good work in the eyes of God is filthy rags.. if good work can lead us to salvation then Jesus died in vain.....
I don't understand what you're all talking about..🤣😜... Who is teaching that everybody will get their salaries even without working??? So God gives you grace, and faith and that's free...so what now??? You work only on the end you say your work is useless, you are not save by works, if that is the kind of faith that you have....ok...fine...SIT and SLEEP then...😋🤣😜
@William Cloud ok man, when you stand before The Lord and He tells you that He founded the one holy Catholic and apostolic church and this is what you said about it? You have no excuse if you watched this
"Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”" John 6:28-29. From the lips of Jesus. Works are the fruit of salvation not the cause of salvation. This is seen in type: Cain offered the works of his own hand and was rejected. Abel offered a blood sacrifice and was accepted.
Milan is absolutely correct. I grew up RC and now read and live according to the Bible. There's a lot I could say about RC doctrine but all you have to do is read the Bible to know the difference between RCism and Biblical Christianity. The reality is that RC's don't read their Bible and get duped by this kind of heretic. Works and Law to gain salvation bring nothing but pride and empty activity. Trust in Christ alone and you will receive the Holy Spirit who will direct you away from such non sense and yes create in you a desire to do good and server Jesus which will bring great rewards in this life and the next. But mostly his love and peace which no works can buy or pay for, it is a gift, praise God.
And to believe means to follow, then that is faith applied resulting in goods works. Same things as when you believe in a leader figure like a coach or a mentor, you don't know him that much yet but you have faith that he/can help you achieve the results you want & so you believe in him & follow his instructions which produce the work
I don't think that man understands the central message of the bible I read the same bible and came out with a different conclusion than he did Thank you though The Paul he quotes says different things all together
@C Xtzin Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
That is essentially Ephisians 2:8-9. You are taking it out of context. Please, read Ephesians 2:10 as well. Or, better.yet, the entire 2nd book of Ephisians, instead of simply cherry picking the verses you, personally, want.
@@robertamcdonald5734 "All things work together for good to those who love God, for those who are called according to his purpose. For whom He FOREKNEW, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of Jesus so that Christ might be the first born of many brethren."
@@m.donahue6085 Spot On, Amen. "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:10 In context we should not boast in our own works, but in the good works we are gifted and compelled to do in faith to our Lord Jesus.
How about the criminal who was crucified, along with Jesus in Luke 23:40-43? He got saved right? He got saved because of God's grace through his faith not by his works. Good works is the result of salvation. Read Ephesians 2:8-9 as well you'll see on that verse that, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast." Also in Isaiah 64:6 stated that "All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our RIGHTEOUS ACTS are like FILTHY RAGS; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." So we will see here that our good works are just filthy rags before God. You will only be saved through faith then good works will follow as a result of your salvation. Luke 23:40-43 -But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."
Almighty God od knows everything about all of us. It is very possible that the good thief had done many good things in the past and when being cruxcifed, he obviously repented while the other thief might have also done good things in the past, did not repent.
@@juans6639 we cannot earn our salvation by doing good deeds as stated in Ephesians 2 it is the Apostle Paul himself who wrote it, salvation is freely given, it is God's grace to us through faith in Christ alone, that is the Good News of the Lord Jesus Christ, good works is the by product of your salvation it is the good fruit that will come after you got saved. If you are doing good to earn your way to heaven then that is not the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life as stated in John 14:6, he didn't say that "I and your good works is the way to the Father." It is in Christ alone that we can be saved we cannot add or deduct anything from the Scriptures.
@@mole215 I agree, God's grace is undeserved, unmerited, unearned favour this is something we cannot earn through our good works, it is freely given by God to those who believe. Justification through faith alone in Christ alone is biblical, I don't see the reason why the title of the video says that protestant's doctrine of salvation is unbiblical, they were saying faith alone is not enough to be justified they were saying that faith plus works is the way for us to be justified but the Scriptures says a different thing it is stated throughout the Bible that we are justified through faith alone in Christ Jesus (Romans 3:28, Romans 5:1, Habakkuk 2:4, Galatians 2:21, Galatians 2:16). In the verse he stated Romans 2:7 it sets up a contrast between those who are changed by God’s grace and live for Him and those who reject His salvation and truth (verse 8), In Romans 2:7, those who “by persisting in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality” are those who have genuinely trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation, by grace through faith. And in James 2:14-26 sometimes taken out of context in an attempt to create a works-based system of righteousness, but that is contrary to many other passages of Scripture. James is not saying that our works make us righteous before God but that real saving faith is demonstrated by good works. Works are not the cause of salvation; works are the evidence of salvation. Faith in Christ always results in good works. The person who claims to be a Christian but lives in willful disobedience to Christ has a false or dead faith and is not saved. It is clear that the Scriptures don't support justification by works but through faith alone in Christ Jesus, works are evidence not the cause of our justification.
Faith is that which brings the Holy Spirit through the merits of Christ". ... All have sinned and are justified freely, without their own works and merits, by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, in His blood (Romans 3:23-25). This is necessary to believe. WITHOUT THEIR OWN WORKS OR MERITS
Justification by faith is correct. The fruits of good works are 'indicators' that shows that you are on the right tract, they don't save you.Jesus does.
2:59 justification by faith . Is justification by faith alone? In relation to Sola Fide, the place of works is found in the second chapter of the Epistle to the Ephesians: Justification is by grace through faith, "not from yourselves" and "not by works". In other words, it is by faith alone since all human efforts are excluded here (Ephesians 2:8-9) So you need to check what the fine man at the microphone is saying and make sure what he is saying is true or not.
@@hottboy6712 Yes, works is not a salvation issue. It is an issue of your Christian life, your walk, your faithfulness and obedience. You are saved unto good works, not by good works.
@@juanyer3646 Since you are chopping up a verse so the you get the roman Catholic version of events maybe you should read the scriptures as it states the truth. James 1:1 who is James addressing? James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. What was the work that the Jews had to have ? John 6:28 Jesus tells them exactly . verse 15 shows you that you can not believe in the Messiah and do nothing with that belief. This is not what the roman Catholic church wants you to see. What we do see in scripture is Eph 2: where by grace you are saved not by works . There is a definite statement of Not by works and the grace through faith is there with nothing attached to it.
@@bobloblawb2593 Exactly. Don't think R Cath much read scripture themselves. They seem to only know RCC selected verses to support RCC beliefs totally out of context of all other scripture. Also, they apparently are taught only their leaders are able to correctly interpret scripture, and RCC traditions aka manmade beliefs are of equal "infallible" authority to scripture. They totally reject sola scriptura and even call it unsupportable. Unbelievable!!
@Philip Carpenter when you were a child did your parents know things that you didn't? Did ever listen to them because you loved them, respected them and had the understanding that they probably knew better than you? You have a choice to either humble yourself and follow the path that God provides and trust in him or you can go your own way. You can be the one who decides what is good and what is evil. You can live for your own purpose and maybe you can manipulate some gullible people into following you. You can live your life to the fullest and have everything that the world has to offer, because you have placed your faith in the world. Here's the kicker though. You don't get to take it with you when you're dead. Faith in what God offers you carries on even after you die. Faith in the world dies in the world. Either way like it or not you have faith too. It's just a very short sighted faith that will never satisfy or last. Only faith in Jesus is eternal and saves. You have faith in dust. I have faith in the creator of the universe. You wouldn't be on here posting comments like this unless you were feeling empty and thirsting for something more. There is more for you than dust.
@Philip Carpenter You seem to have all of the answers. Maybe you can answer a few questions I have. What is driving you you to come on here and waste your time trying to debate strangers and prove your point? I don't believe that smurfs are real and I don't have any need to prove that. Yet here you are wasting your time and energy trying to prove how gullible I am. Why would you care what I believe? Why would you fight against something that you didn't believe exists? Why don't you waste your time in proving that Santa doesn't exist? Instead you driven to speak out against Christians. I've spoken to plenty of people who are just like yourself. You speak from the same mind because you are driven by the same thing. The holy spirit drives me. Who is your motivation?
@@FJhei I'm considering joining the Catholic Church but to be honest, there are just as many instances where Catholics pick and choose verses (and avoid other verses) to match their doctrine.
@@carlmabiog Yes I have as a matter of fact. I'm not here to be critical or insult anyone, I'm just making an observation based on my knowledge of Scripture. A lot of the comments here are not very Christ-like, which is sad.
Someone said, "I am not saved because of my works, I am saved because of Christ's finished work."... Why is it for Christians to be SAVED, Christ commanded us to CARRY/PICK UP (verb = Work/Act/Deed) our CROSS (noun = Trials/Tests) and FOLLOW (verb = Work/Act/Deed) ME/Christ Jesus?" (ref. Matt. 16:24). Christ Jesus finished "HIS" own WORK (task given by His Father God/YHWH to Redeem us from Sin) which is DEATH on the Cross... Christ said, "If they persecuted ME, they will also persecute you, too." (ref. John 15:20)... in the same way... Therefore, we must ALSO carry our CROSS and finish our own WORK (task given by Christ for us to love/care) for our neighbors and foes alike... Christ Jesus said, "Whoever (Christians) ENDURES (verb = hold on/abide) till the END will be SAVED." (Future Perfect Tense = ref. Matt. 24:13)... On Judgment Day of God/YHWH, we will be judged according to our WORKS/ACTS/DEEDS... and not by FAITH ALONE (ref. Rev. 20:12 & 21 / Matt. 5:15 & 12:36 / Rom. 14:12 / Gal. 5:22 / Psalm 62:12 / Proverbs 24:12 / etc.)... According to Apostle James, our FAITH in Christ Jesus by God's Grace is made PERFECTLY COMPLETE (Complete Justification) by our WORKS taught by Christ Jesus... Therefore, we can NEVER be saved by FAITH ALONE, unless we are dying in bed like the Thief on the Cross... FAITH comes first with GOD'S GRACE (Mercy) followed by (Good) WORKS... is the complete Justification to be SAVED...(ref. James 2:22) "It is by GRACE of God that you have been SAVED through FAITH in Christ Jesus." (ref. Ephesians 2:8-9)... not by FAITH ALONE... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.
I would certainly disagree with Tim, though I am certain he would not want to hear me. James 2 is not talking about how to get saved, but rather what indicates true saving faith has happened. The _result_ of such faith is works. Philippians 2:13 says that God works in us to desire to do God's will, AND to give us the ability to carry it out. Ephesians 2:8-10 makes it clear that Christians are most *certainly* saved by faith in Christ's death on the cross, _alone_ --but that we are created TO good works that God has pre-ordained for us to do. Romans 3:28 "Romans 3:28 KJV - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." Romans 5:1 "Romans 5:1 KJV - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:"
'Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren? Good works in God’s grace are required for justification. But there is nothing in the Scriptures about “saving faith.” - James 2:20.
Titus 3:5--"not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit."
That's your interpretation. James doesn't say any of that. Equally you're isolating St Paul's words, he actually expands on that by saying Romans10 "For it is with your heart [so not mere belief] that you believe and are justified [not saved], and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.", which is clearly a work; and which Jesus mentions "If you deny me.....".
Hi, I noticed your comment regarding Orthodoxy. I've never seen a member of an Orthodox before but, may I ask which Orthodox Church do you attend? I'm eager to know about them
@Domagoj Golubić well they aren't gnostics because the gnostics were said to know the mysteries and no catholic can explain the mysteries and that includes the mystery of the godhead
Brother faith comes first it’s obvious but your works is defined by how much faith you have. Eventually the holy spirit thats in you will do the good work that you’re talking about.
@@TheRealFrank0 to give you an analogy, if you are sick you cannot do good works. Unless you are healed you cannot do good works like cleaning the house.
How about Galatians 2 verse 16: "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."
@@HenriettaMRiley - and what, would you say is the correct meaning of James 2:24? "You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone" Martin Luther hated the book of James and that is because of verses like this one. He said he sometimes felt like burning the book of James. The Justification by faith alone was his own opinion. and so he rejected any part of the bible that disproved it.
Catholics would totally agree with this verse. We are justified (initially entering into salvation) through faith in Christ alone and His cross. Though after we receive such justification through faith we must do good works because without them our faith is dead, and cannot save us if it is dead.
@@travislariscy4466 Absolutely correct. Faith generates the good works.....but to say that good works grants us the salvation is not correct. Good works is the 'fruits' of our faith, not the other way around. Here is what God thinks of when he sees our good works... Isa 64:6 - a dirty soiled menstrual rag.....sorry not my words but His.
@@HenriettaMRiley Henrietta, thanks for your response but I am not discrediting the Catholic Church and neither should you. We have the New Testament of the Bible thanks to the Catholic Church. The Catholics were spreading the Gospel throughout the world for centuries before Protestants ever existed. Catholics worked endless hours hand-writing the Bible and translating the Bible. Are there corrupt Catholics? Yes. Has the Catholic church gone through periods of corruption? Of course they have. The Catholic Church has been around for 2,000 years and led by imperfect men of flesh and blood. There's also much corruption in the thousands of different Protestant denominations. Why? Because the Protestant churches are also led by imperfect men and women of flesh and blood. The Catholic Church is the church that Jesus founded through the Apostle Peter and is filled with traditions that were practiced by the people that actually knew our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Again, that Bible that you read and that you use as a guide for your faith and knowledge of God, was assembled from many, many religious writings that were considered holy during the early years. The Catholic Church, solely had the task of picking and choosing the books that ended up in your Bible. Martin Luther just removed a few that he didn't like but the ones that remained were still the ones that the Catholic Church picked in the first place. Even though Martin Luther was far removed from Jesus by 1,500 years, he thought he knew better than his predecessors that were chronologically closer to Jesus. I'm not putting down Martin Luther. There was corruption in the Catholic Church during his time and he did what he felt he needed to do.
I'm beyond impressed. As a revert to Catholicism from Pentecostal, this has given me goosebumps. The explanation is so thorough and clear. The Catholic faith indeed is the real deal. Thanks be to God for leading me back home after years of contemplating and researching. Indeed the non-religious or secular books/encyclopedias all point out to Jesus Christ as the founder of the Catholic Church. These same references pinpoint the human founders of different denominations and the so-called non-denominational churches but not the Catholic Church. Which church should we follow then, the one founded by different men or the one founded by Jesus himself?
You have been TOLD BY HOSTORIANS that Christ formed the church. Now what is the Church? The church of Christ is the one founded on the word of God. Christ is the foundation May the LORD give us understanding
@J_a_s_o_n your interpretation = 100s of denominations that conflict with each other. You will not come together in one church instead you fracture. You divide Christians. That is not what Jesus and the apostles taught . they taught Christian unity Catholic interpretation = one faith. 1.3B and growing. We have spread the good news through the whole world baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, abs the Holy Spirit
Jesus established His Doctrine, Teachings in His Catholic Church in 33AD, then prayed everyone would be part of her, His Bride. He taught if we don’t remain in His Church, Doctrine, receiving His Sacraments and Teachings, we will not have Him and never enter Heaven. He rebuked the Pharisees and Scribes for making their own versions of His, like all 44,000 other Christian Churches and other Faiths have done. Mt 23:1-39, Lk 11:37-54 Remain in His Catholic Church, Doctrine & Gospel-Jn 10:16, 17:20-26, Eph 4:4-6, 2 JN1:9, 2 Thess3:6-16, Rom16:17, Heb 13:9, Gal 1:6-9, 2 Cor 11:3-4, Jn 1:42, 21:15-17, Mt 16:18-19, 10:1-4, Mk3:14-19, Eph 2:19-22, 1 Cor 12:28, Acts 20:28, Lk 22:28-32, 1 Pet 2:6-9, Eph5:22-33, Lk 11:37-54 Sacraments-Jn 3:5, Act 22:16, 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt 18:17-18, Jn 6:51-59, 1 Cor 11:23-29, Eph 1:13, 2Cor 1:21-22, Mt19:4-6, Col 3:17-19, 2Cor5:20, 1:25-29, Lk22:28-32, Jm 5:16, Lk10:34 are a few pertinent verses.
Works is a symptom of faith and repentance. And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked. 1 John 2:3-6 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. Galatians 2:16 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; James 2:22
We are saved by GRACE alone. Thinking of it otherwise is self-righteous. We can't earn our way into heaven. It's mercy granted upon lowly beings who, at their absolute best, are shamefully undeserving.
Catholics don’t deny that. A core part of Catholic doctrine is that faith is fundamental to salvation. Works done without faith mean nothing to God. When Catholics say that works are part of salvation, they mean the works done through God’s grace. Works done through Gods grace can only be attributed to God.
@@lydiapetra1211 the only thing it is is incredibly unfactual. Give us an example. (The catholic church gives 110 billion in the us alone per annum for healthcare, since your government and the wacko protties don't seem to care much, the next biggest charitable organization is bill gates' and they do 5bn globally.)
@@ExperienceEric unfactual. The inquisition was the beginning of detective work, we have numerous historical accounts that those imprisoned by secular rulers would blaspheme intentionally as to be transferred under church authority for they knew they would have fairer treatment. In an age that was more brutal the church paved the way forward for more civil treatment. You are confuzing what countries monarchs did for what the church did (such as the spanish inquisition not under control of the church). The inquisition very rarely dealt with witches, but dealt with heretics, you might have confuzed the RCC for protties and puritanicals there in witch burning terms. In any account, you must be high off of bath salts to claim millions dead since no more than 2% of those that underwent inquisition trials were sentenced to death. Ready to bash protestantism now?
Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.
@@chadlee243 show me in the Bible that the same paragraph nobody should be called Teacher. lol 😆 also Paul called himself a father for many. Read the Bible bro prot.
@@MPIO2023 The reference is Matthew 23:8-10. This was in response to the behavior of the Pharisees, so meaning giving undue spiritual authority to a human being as if that person were the source of truth rather than God, individuals of pride and pretense like the pope.
That’s precisely what happens in the sacraments of the Catholic Church. The sacraments of the Catholic Church are describing scripture as the faith of Christ. It is in the sacraments of the Catholic Church that we are saved by grace because of the faith we proclaim in the name of Jesus Christ.
@@tomh3721 What does this say? Matthew 19:21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. What do you think? Does that treasure in heaven refer to some form of grace? Now, let's see, what about this? Luke 11:41But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all things are clean unto you. We give alms and all things are clean. To what is that a reference, if not to justification by means of works? Oh and of course: James 2:24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified.... So, does St. James say that a man earns the grace of justification?
@@mdechristi this ofcourse begs the questions.. What is grace? An unearnt favour of God.. So we see a recurring theme in the scripture that salvation is by grace through faith. The verse from the book of James is interesting because its where it mentions works in relation to salvation, but that wouldn't fit with the recurring theme of faith alone. So what does James mean by this? In can only be that those fruits are a sign of our "living faith" as opposed to "dead faith" by saying you can earn your own salvation is utterly ridiculous. This theme is evident in both old and new testament Galatians 2:16 "yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."
It is not you that work, it is God within you, that glorifies His Father. God is holy alone. Christ in you, can begin a work. Hello sheep...Have a nice day.
Do you understand what this means? This is pertaining to Jewish law. The law as in circumcision/uncircumcision, things to eat/ things not to eat, things…….ceremonial laws etc. Matthew 12:3-8 KJ21 But He said unto them, "Have ye not read what David did when he hungered and they that were with him: [4] how he entered into the house of God and ate the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for those who were with him, but only for the priests? [5] Or have ye not read in the law how on the Sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath and are blameless? [6] But I say unto you, that in this place is One greater than the temple. [7] But if ye had known what this meaneth, 'I will have mercy and not sacrifice,' ye would not have condemned the guiltless. [8] For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath day." Matthew 15:2-11 KJ21 "Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread." [3] But He answered and said unto them, "Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [4] For God commanded, saying, 'Honor thy father and mother,' and, 'He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.' [5] But ye say that whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, 'by whatsoever thou might have profited by me, it is a gift,' [6] and honor not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. [7] Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, [8] 'This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoreth Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. [9] But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.'" [10] And He called the multitude and said unto them, "Hear and understand: [11] Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." Matthew 15:17-20 KJ21 Do ye not yet understand that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the drain? [18] But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man. [19] For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: [20] these are the things which defile a man. But to eat with unwashed hands defileth not a man." --------------- PAUL s words Romans 2:1-10 KJ21 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art who judgest; for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself, for thou that judgest doest the same things. [2] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who commit such things. [3] And thinkest thou this, O man, who judgest those who do such things and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? [4] Or despisest thou the riches of His goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? [5] But because of thy hardness and impenitence of heart, thou treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of Wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, [6] who will render to every man according to his deeds: [7] to those who by patient continuance in welldoing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; [8] but unto those who are contentious, and do not obey the truth but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, [9] tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man who doeth evil, upon the Jew first and also upon the Gentile; [10] but glory, honor and peace to every man who worketh good, to the Jew first and also to the Gentile. *What does he say about those who worketh good? *what does he say about those who do not OBEY the truth but OBEY unrightousness??? Romans 2:12-14 KJ21 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law. [13] (For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [14] For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, they, not having the law, are a law unto themselves, What’s that? The doers of the law will be justified??? --------- Romans 6:1-16 KJ21 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid! How shall we, who are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [3] Know ye not that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? [4] Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, so we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, [6] knowing this: that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [7] For he that is dead is freed from sin. [8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, [9] knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dieth no more; death no more hath dominion over Him. [10] For in that He died, He died unto sin once; but in that He liveth, He liveth unto God. [11] Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin, but yield yourselves unto God as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you, for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [15] What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid! [16] Know ye not that to whomever ye yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants ye become whom ye obey, whether of sin which leads unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Again OBEDIENCE to CHRIST Romans 6:21-22 KJ21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. [22] But now, being made free from sin and having become servants of God, ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end, everlasting life.
I grew up around protestants. when God met me and starting to transform my life I’ve been to a few churches and encourage people read all 73 books of the Bible. I belong to Christ now and I pray for unity among His church (as He does in John 17).
Brother I've come to the same conclusion, I did 5 months of Prayer and Research and even wore Sackcloth and Fasted and was in Prayer, I read all 7 Dueterocannonical Books and I did research into The Early Church and The Reformation. And all I can say is is that The Reformation Is at a huge fault Tobit, Judith, Sirach, Baruch, Wisdom, 1&2 Maccabees ARE THE WORD OF GOD Council of Rome, Carthage and Hippo. Every single complete or partially complete Christian Bible up to the 16th century includes the Dueterocannon in one way or another I'm Non-denominational, but I utterly refuse the title "Protestant" The Reformation itself had Heresy and led to even more Heresy and it divided The Body of Christ it caused alot more harm than it did good.
@@ChillingandVibingToLife yeah but there not inspired by God. They have flaws in them and don’t point to Jesus. They are not the breathed our word of God.
I love to hear from people that were once protestant and converted to the catholic faith❤not that people that have always been catholic dont explain the faith well, but as someone that was raised protestant(non denom) and as someone that is learning and enjoying learning about the catholic faith it makes it relatable for me🙏 im finding i align alot with it
personal experience is not a good argument for any of these comments, only proof is. i believe in scripture because of historical evidence, not because of church authority. is there any actual historical evidence which supports sacred tradition (specific foretelling prophecy come true like in Daniel, Isaiah, Psalm 22 etc.)? bible does not support sacred tradition from what i see.
@@sponge6171 You: bible does not support sacred tradition from what i see. Me: 2 Thess 2:15: Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold to the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle. The Bible in your hands could not exist without a table of contents or a canon. That canon which tells us which books are inspired by God was produced by the Tradition of the Catholic Church. Without tradition you have no bible.
@endtimesareuponus8930 OK, you are a John 666 Christian. You left Christ never to return. Go laugh at that one. Or maybe you prefer the one in Matt 10 where Jesus tells the apostles that those who will not listen to them will have it worse than Saddam and Gomorrah at their judgment. Enjoy your laughter while you can.
Ephesians 2 : 8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast. 🤫
Protestants always misinterpret Eph 2:8-9. Firstly, it doesn't say faith alone - it refers to the initial means of obtaining grace, which is thru faith. Secondly, the words "not by works" refer to works alone - ie, works without faith - not works with faith.
@@AndrewLane-pm2ro firstly, where are you stating this from? Cause it's not the from the bible cause you would've quoted a verse but since you didn't, you have no precedence hence you're wrong and your argument is not maintable. Secondly, you say that works refer to "works alone". The Bible doesn't say "works alone" it just says "works" and the reason why I bring this up is because its a logical fallacy, you're saying that faith isn't the only way cause the bible doesn't say "faith alone" but then the bible doesn't say "works alone" as well and just says "works". so have contradicted the bible and yourself. Before you go on about what protestants get wrong, why you don't you read the Bible and see what it says. The Bible speaks for God and everyone who calls themselves a Christian. If the Bible didn't add the word "alone" it doesn't necessarily mean that there are other ways, it's only faith. Because we cannot earn or try and redeem ourselves of God's selfless sacrifice, no amount of "works" can do that. But only God's grace allows us to be saved and safe, how? Through faith. Even the unbeliever does good works the only difference is faith.
@samuelstephen3416 Eph 2:9 doesn't say "works alone"? In effect, it does. What else could the word "works" mean if not "works alone"? That verse says grace doesn't come thru works done without faith. Protestants like to think it says grace doesn't come thru faith and works, or that works have nothing to with obtaining grace, which is not what is says at all. No one can earn salvation thru works, no one can earn salvation thru faith and no one can earn salvation action thru faith and works. Grace is a gift that is obtained thru justification - by faith and works (James 2:24).
@@AndrewLane-pm2ro it seems as though I've used words above your capability of grasping. Not by works means that works don't save us, what does is faith which give us the grace if God.
As a devout Roman Catholic, thank you for this channel!!! I appreciate their are some kind, beautiful, personable ppl who can also be an apologist for the Faith
@@infinitx1330 Bible Gateway Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, "The righteous shall live by faith."” Romans 1:16-17 ESV “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Romans 3:20 ESV “What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin." Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? For we say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well, and to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.” Romans 4:1-12 ESV “And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved- and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” Ephesians 2:1-10 ESV Works are the product of sanctification, not the requirement of Justification.
These are the words of our savior. You dare to question Christ himself? In Romans, paul refers to works of the law. That Jewish kosher and circumcision laws do not save which is true. This in no way discounts the importance of works as Christ himself notes. Ephesians refers to unbelievers, that without faith works are meaningless. He does not refer to works AFTER faith, which are very important.
Justification is by FAITH and FAITH only. In the able, SANCTIFICATION will result in works, but works have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with justification. You are questioning the words of our Savior’s most faithful apostle, the one who was not there during the passion and yet believed and preached with the highest fervor.
I'm not questioning Paul's words. I'm interpreting them since you are in error. In Romans he refers to no salvation from works OF THE LAW, meaning jewish law. In Ephesians, he refers to no salvation by works if faith is not present. Here is Paul again for you: Romans 2:6-7 For [God] will render to every man according to HIS WORKS: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. In Romans 6:16, St. Paul goes on to tell us that after baptism (cf. Romans 6:3-4) obedience to Christ (that means good works!) leads us to justification while sin (that means bad works!) will lead us to death: Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death (Gr.-eis thanaton, “unto death”), or of obedience, which leads to righteousness (Gr.-eis dikaiosunen-unto justification).
Ephesians 2:8-9 ' For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast'. Salvation is entirely by the death of Jesus, his burial and resurrection, and NOT ONE MORE THING. Works is like filthy rags to God in regards to SALVATION. AFTER we are saved, we are rewarded for our obedience (works) to the commands of God Almighty. James was writing to BELIEVERS who have already been saved by Grace through faith, James is saying that after salvation, the evidence of faith is works. Hebrews 11:1 Now 'faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen'.
Phil 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
That is a description of the Sacraments. It is in the Sacraments that we present ourselves before God, declare our faith in Him and He counts it to us as righteousness. And then, because of our faith, He pours on the grace of the Holy Spirit, washing us our sins.
Do Protestants really not know what the Works of the Law are? I'm going through these comments and I have yet to see a single Protestant actually know what they are
Cannot follow the reformer "ex catholic priest" Martin Luther.....his changing of 1500 yrs of CHURCH teaching AND discarding books from this ORIGINAL holy Bible is UNBIBLICAL! You don't start up a NEW CHURCH because of "sinful men". WAKE UP BROTHERS N SISTERS.... Thank you Jesus for establishing our church of over 2,000 yrs and sending out your apostles! Whoa to those whom follow judas. We have to follow Jesus....God bless you Tim for explaining so clearly....
No one, absolutely no one ,is asking you to follow some guy who caught the Catholic church with it's fingers in the cookie jar in the 1500's . You are to follow scripture aka God's word , not a man /pope or anyone of less caliber than the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 sorry, I thought I was responding to someone else. But now I’ll address you. MANY Protestants abide by Scripture..........until they don’t
“That’s how the church functioned for 1500 years...” ...except for that one big schism that happened around 1050 AD, but we just don’t talk about that. Also, referring to history when asked about the *biblical* basis for belief is something I see Catholics refer to a lot to argue against Protestantism. I don’t care for appeals to history or tradition, as those are man-made structures. Slavery was (and in some places still is) the norm for most of human history. Does that make it true, just, or moral? History and tradition do not define truth. Rather, they reflect man’s belief about truth. That does not prove truth.
@Robert Hirst All Tim is saying is that because of Matt 16:18, everything the Catholic church teaches is synonymous with truth. Not because Jesus said it, but because of the men in a certain organization who came after Jesus said it. This is the Sola Scriptura of Catholicism - -everything they teach as "truth" is based on Matt 16:18.
Even before the schism in 1500 there was many churches and they weren't ruled by Roman catholic church, some things like pope supremacy are doctrines very new
@@joeoleary9010 catholic it's not the same as Roman catholic, it's the same with protestant called Christians there are Christians but they aren't all the Christians. Roman catholics are catholics but they aren't all the catholics
The easiest way to refute this is to look at the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. Many men came to that council saying that the Gentiles and Jews alike needed to keep the laws of Moses in order to be saved. Yet, the Jerusalem Council gathered together to discuss this matter and their findings were not only very clear, but the biggest rebuke of Catholic doctrine found in Scripture: “Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” Acts 15:10-11 ESV
Ephesians 2:8-10 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: NOT of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, which God hath before ordained that we *should* walk in them."
@@BUDPUD yes in the sight of men and God we can’t just act like that in front of men! The strongest faith ever shown is the faith that is done when no one else is watching!! James says be a doer of the word not a hearer only. We have to cooperate with the Holy Spirit so he can work in us!
Faith without works is a dead faith. Works without faith are meaningless works. It is not a question of either/or, the Catholic Church says it is BOTH/AND.
What about Ephesians 2:8-9? 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh the order of events are very important in Ephesians 2:10, "created in Christ Jesus for good works." When we are in Chrst, this results in good works. Having good works does not result in being in Christ. I posted a more detailed comment if you want more details on this. Protestant affirm that faith must be coupled with obedience if it is true faith, but this follows salvation, it does not lead to salvation.
Romans 3:11 Not one of us is worthy to be saved. Only so pure a lamb can save the sins of the many. If works can save, then why was Jesus slain? You are equating Jesus' sacrifice to the cross with your "sowing"? Who are you anyway? 😂 You? Us? No matter how hard we try, no amount of work can match the mercy and grace of God. We work because we were given grace and not because it is what will save us. Who are you anyway? 😂 A speck of dust in the universe but your works can save you or add to your salvation and add to what Christ did? You are making His sacrifice imperfect? Wow.
@kim burley I agree that one must be born again and then good works will follow, that is exactly what I tried to explain in my comment, that obedience to God's word is something that comes after salvation (regeneration, i.e. being born again) and that only happens through the Spirit of God. I understand the roman catholic view on this and fully disagree with them. The bible says we will be judged according to our works, but to say you are saved by your works is missing it completely, so amen to your comment, I agree!
@Crusader of the Holy Grail 1. I fully agree with the "alone " not being in scripture at this verse. You may notice though that BY GRACE is mentioned twice for emphasis . 2. Either way, law or works, has to be taken as something not related to the gift as neither support a free gift. 3.I disagree that salvation is not a one time event. Roman 11:28 Regarding the gospel, they are enemies on your account; but regarding election, they are loved on account of the patriarchs. 29 For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who formerly disobeyed God have now received mercy through their disobedience,… Salvation is by gift of God and it is a one time event but works of righteousness is ongoing .1 Cor 6:11 is all past tense and leads one to have confidence that regardless of how imperfect we are we are still in Christ.
You got it half right. Salvation (Justification) is by Grace through Faith alone but it’s ALWAYS proven by Life of Holiness(Sanctification) and Good works (Basis Of Glorification) Ephesians 2:8-10 ,James 2:14-26
I like the distinction there, thanks. Another one I heard that seems important is the difference in the use of 'justified' by Paul and James. Paul notes we're justified (before God) by faith - Romans 5:1 James notes we're justified (before men) by works - James 2:24 James was digging into the practicalities and how we can know true faith when we see it. As he says, in James 2:14 - what *use* is it if someone says they have faith but no works. in James 2:18 - and I will *show* you my faith by my works
just brilliant summary i feel many use a highly redacted bible many scriptures are blacked out not to be viewed since it proves the above points marcus grodi has a great video of scriptures "he never saw" as a Protestant. i suggest others listen to his summary as well "ten versus i never saw". the bread of life discourse--it was so radical people left Him, then at the last supper Jesus says "THIS IS MY BODY" referring to the bread, its directly related, i'm sure the apostles were as stunned by Jesus radical "eat my flesh" but trusted, later at His time fully explains and and defines the issue. I'm so blessed to be Catholic it has never failed me, also people need to read, listen etc to the catechism gives all references. also "tradition" was not a fancy handshake but word of mouth and teachings for hundreds of years, 95% of people at that time were illiterate, word, teachings etc was what they diligently passed on. funny how people will understand and accept "hand of the king" in games of throne, but not giving peter the keys of the kingdom.
Excellent witness for Catholicism. Catholicism is based on a three legged stool of Sacred Tradition, which existed from the time of Jesus, Sacred Scripture which was codified in 382 but not mass printed until the 16th century, complements Scripture as not everything is in the bible Jn 20:24 under the unifying authoritative interpretation of the Magisterium giving us stability & objective, which Protestantism lacks, given its one legged stool based on flawed & unbiblical sola Scriptura
@@andreeattieh2963 This is a common (and very flawed) Catholic argument. As far as Catholics are concerned, unless a verse specifically says "alone"--anything the Church would like to add--can be added. The verse says "by faith are ye saved". "Alone" is implicit in that statement since nothing else is added. But then the verse goes further to EXCLUDE works-lest any many should boast. Your argument is null.
It is amazing how many passages he rips out of the correct flow of thought to come up with his doctrine. If we can gain salvation by our works then, according to Paul, Christ died for nothing! Gal 2.
@William Cloud The Catholic has admitted to be one in the body of the universal Church of satan over and over again. perhaps you can define exactly what you mean ? The catholic believes what the church says and they are told that they can not interpret the scriptures for themselves . The Catholic has admitted to be one in the body of the universal Church. They believe that the church is Catholic by name and by function , they do not believe they are part of satans church nor do I. Lets make a distinction between the common catholic in the church and the hierarchy of the church that calls itself the church and makes the rules. They are two entirely different entities. As a believer will you accept every word that comes out of the mouth of Benny Hinn? Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen , or will you go to the word for your beliefs ? What if you are told to listen to these three and not to interpret the scriptures on your own ? What will the result be?
@Christopher Cowan Lol. No one is ripping anything out. No one says we gain salvation through our works. That is heresy of pelagianism condemed by the Catholic Church. We can be saved only by Jesus' sacrifice. We reach sanctity and are justified through Faith and good works done in the State of Grace, which would not be possible without Jesus and His Passion. Faith and works done in Grace only bring justification because God makes it possible and gives us His Grace. But just beliving without working in Grace cannot bring us to be justified. Jesus said that to be His friends we must do what God commands.
@@TheGeneralGrievous19 Hey General, good afternoon. I am not sure if you realize it, but your entire view here is a blatant contradiction. Salvation and justification are the same thing. The only way to be saved is to be justified before God. How does this come about? Romans 3:28, Romans 4:1-5, Galatians 3:10-11
I read just today in romans where paul was talking about how Abraham was counted as righteous when he believed God. We live by faith alone which produces good works.
If someone believe in God/Jesus, it means he knows who God is, what God can do, knows what he did (sins), knows what God want him to do and apply His will. He should understand that all the things God do are good and irreproachable. Then he would believe.
The Reformers taught that, we are justified by faith alone, BUT NOT BY A FAITH THAT IS ALONE. Works do not justify, but they are VERY IMPORTANT, as per St. James.
CloutLevels2High James is referring to those who SAID they had faith, but never displayed that faith with good works. He uses Abraham as an illustration, that he believed God, and demonstrated that, by putting Isaac on the altar; he was justified in that sense by his works. In other words, don’t tell me you have faith; show me by your works that you have faith. Hope that helps, friend.
@@kellykempkilroy You seem to be contradicting yourself a bit. James mentions both works and faith, and that works are necessary for justification. Why would James mention works separately if he is just using works as an extension of showing faith? He appears to be saying that you need WORKS and FAITH not just works that display your faith. Doing works simply to display you are faithful actually seems quite vain and prideful. Although we can also just point to the lack of interpretive authority of the reformers where Jesus set up that authority in the office of Peter through which the Catholic Church derives its beliefs.
CloutLevels2High James says that faith without works is “dead”. And it says nothing about salvation here. Nothing about faith alone In fact, he is saying that if you have faith (which saves you), but don’t show its fruits, then there is no life in that faith. The most important scripture about keeping “grace” (a free gift of salvation) from “works” (that will not save you) is Romans 11:6. All of Romans ch 4 explains faith being counted as Abraham’s righteousness and not works of the law.
@@kellykempkilroy Protestant counter: “James really just means faith evidenced by works. So, one must have a genuine faith to be saved. After all he says ‘show me your faith apart from your woks and I by my works will show you my faith’ which is his real point!” The obvious problem with this is it bastardizes the very analogy I just made, turning it into one cannot survive without a dead spirit and needs a “lively” spirit. Because a genuine faith vs dead faith cannot allow for a distinction of the body and spirit. Next, further on the point, it also ought to be obvious that any other use of “Show me” doesn’t establish the opposing view in the very equation. James says in verse 18, “But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works. Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith.” This does not mean that works are simply evidence of justifying faith. The apostle is telling us that if you do not have works you are not justified. It should be obvious if you can compare and understand analogies in a linear fashion: “but some may say, you have a marriage and I have a relationship. Show me your marriage apart from the relationship, and I by my relationship will show you my marriage.” Through this basic turn of the phrase, it is obvious to see in the case of faith what James is really trying to illustrate to his audience; one does not have saving faith without works any more than you have a marriage without a relationship. The linkage between faith and works cannot be broken. Faith and works are inextricably intertwined and cannot be separated. That is why James uses the powerful analogy of the body and spirit in verse 26 where he says, “For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.” Think about this profound statement. Faith is compared with the body and works are compared to the spirit. The body and spirit together make up a living human being. You cannot have a living human being without both together. Likewise, you cannot have a justifying faith without works, and James tells us that faith without works is dead and that it cannot save you. This cannot mean that works are simply the demonstration of saving faith. God knows all things and he does not need a demonstration by works to know if a man has faith. God requires that a man have both faith and works to be justified, and this is precisely why James hammers on this point in his Epistle.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Eph. 2:8-9 NKJV Not sure how it gets more explicit than that.
@Jacob Posego I fully agree that you need works as well as faith. What I’m saying is that works is part of faith, and justification by faith alone includes works, as faith without works is dead. And no, that Ephesians verse is talking about final salvation, if you look at the verses prior.
Read Galatians, it deals with the very fact that we are saved by grace through faith and not by self righteously keeping the demands of the Law. “Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” Romans 3:19-20 Ephesians 2:8-10 We are saved for good works, but not saved by good works.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that is not of yourselves; it is the GIFT of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
Dom Wright - work is the proof of your faith. Prove to me any faith or non-faith group that help more sick or/poor people in the last 2000 years than the Catholic Church.
@@c00lsky2le6 Helping the sick and poor is awesome, that's exactly what Jesus commanded. The problem here is not the works (in and of themselves) but rather with the danger of believing that we are justified by those works. The issue at hand is Justification (being forgiven and declared righteous, being made right with God). "Therefore, having been JUSTIFIED by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Romans 5:1. Works are the fruit of our salvation, not the root. Our faith in Jesus Christ is the root of our salvation. Real faith rooted in Christ naturally produces works. We will be rewarded by our works but our salvation is not predicated on them. By adding Grace plus Merit, Faith plus works, To the Glory of God and Mary and other Saints, Scripture plus tradition, Christ plus other mediators - we make light of Jesus' sacrifice. We're saying that your death and resurrection wasn't sufficient enough. Let me add to what you've done and then my salvation will be complete. That's not what the Bible teaches. The Bible is proof that we will never be able to do enough to save ourselves. "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;" Romans 3:10, "But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags." Isaiah 64:6, Romans 3:23. Doing "good" works will never and has never been enough. That's why we needed a Savior. We didn't need Jesus to give us a boost or a hand in salvation, we needed Jesus to carry us all the way. In the Bible we see that the priest failed, the kings failed, the judges failed, the prophets failed, the disciples failed BUT Jesus never did. We never could or never will be able to help enough sick/poor people to earn our way to Jesus. Salvation is a gift not a reward. "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be SAVED."Romans 10:9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9
Annette Murphy -- If they agree with abortion you can tell they are not Evangelicals, Protestants. I’m Evangeical Protestant and I can guarantee you100% We do not support abortion. Nancy Pelosi says she’s Catholic, but she supports abortion.That is why I thought Catholics supported abortion. See how one powerful person like N. Pelosi makes Catholics look bad. If it wasn’t for this video I would have continue to believe that Catholics approve of abortions.
One thing I don’t agree with is that Catholics and Evangelicals attack one another. Why what’s the point, after all God is the only one judge of all. We should not be arguing over religion or try to show off that one is wiser than another.
"For we maintain that man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law". Roman's 3:28 We are saved for good works, not through good works. If we are saved through/by good works, then there was no reason for Jesus to come and sacrifice himself. In fact, we who are gentiles (I'm assuming most if not all people watching this video and reading this comment are what the Bible refers to as gentiles) never stood much of a chance to follow the law cause it was given to the nation of Israel. We were grafted in later through faith in Jesus, not by following the Jewish Law. Just because the Catholic church taught this for a thousand years before Luther came around dont mean they're right. People used to think the sun orbited around the earth for thousands of years until Galileo. Ironically he was persecuted too.
Yes...but the church is Christ’s bride. Would you let your bride/wife be wrong for 1500 years? Also, why did God let 7 extra books be included in the Bible for 1500 years only to be removed by a random priest with deep psychological issues? Why would God allow this?
@@mikes.8120 When Jesus returns for His.bride, He will not be returning for any one particular denomination. He will be returning for all those who have been redeemed from the power of sin, born from above, and sealed with Holy Spirit. "But you (those who truly belong to Him) are a CHOSEN RACE, a royal PRIESTHOOD, a HOLY NATION, a PEOPLE FOR GOD'S OWN POSSESSION..." 1 Peter 2:9. Also, studying the parable of the wheat and the tares will give a better understanding as to why Jesus will not be returning for a particular church denomination or earthly country.
Quoting what you said, "We are saved FOR good works and not BY good works. For if we are saved by or through good works, then Jesus died in vain." (please excuse my paraphrasing). You hit the target! "If righteousness comes through the works of the law, Christ died needlessly." Gal. 2:21.
As a Catholic convert who is raised Muslim. I never saw any value in Protestantism. It is too close to the Muslim ideology in the sense it is man made. It is too indulgent into the will and desire of Man. Catholic teaching is divine. Mass is divine. The rules are sometimes hard but there is authority and historical grounding. The early church etc. Protestantism is ever changing. It is easy to fall in to this trap. Mass is the central theme of Christianity.
3:05 Ephesians Chapter 2 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Justification by faith saved for good works God prepared for us. Seems disingenuous that he would ignore that. There are a lot of wholes in what he said and doesn’t addresses the callers concern instead points and says no, you’re not Biblical unless his view is that whatever the pope says goes. Most telling for me is he correctly stated that it was through counsel the church ruled on a matter. The pope ruling alone is what lead to the great schism. Not trying to be antagonistic but honest with my observations and concerns. Got into a wonderful discussion on the matter and trying to learn, searching for answers but finding more questions.
We need this type of messages widely spread out, not to mock or insult our brotehrs in Christ who are non Catholics, but to open their ayes so they can verify these things by themselves !!! PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THESE VIDEOS MASSIVELY AVAILABLE and with new updates !!!
My eyes are open. Youre eyes are closed. There is so much false doctrine in the catholic church, starting with praying to saints, to confessing youre sins to a priest and to the pope himself.
@@elias58855 The Bible says that the “Word of the Lord” is “spoken” (Jer 25:3), not just written. St. Paul urged us to “hold to traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thes 2:15). The Bible also tells of a Council’s authority, where Peter settled a doctrinal dispute and declared what “we believe” (Acts 15). In fact there was NO bible for almost 400 years and then after only priests and nobility owned one. Why? because there was no printing press until 1560. So who dispensed the word of the Lord? The catholic church. So if you claim a Catholics eyes are closed then so are yours friend.
@@AbsconditusTechnologies Number one there is no proof that the roman catholic church is the christian catholic church wich is spoken of in the niecene creed or the original true church. Number two lets say the roman catholic church is the true church, the tradition of the rcc contradicts the bible and if a religion contradicts itself then you can say it is clearly false. Why dont you think about that for a few minutes.
@eliasmuller5885 Lutheranism rejects the authority of the Pope and instead emphasizes the primacy of individual interpretation of Scripture. It places a stronger emphasis on the concept of salvation by faith alone. This directly contradicts the bible as seen in James 2:24 ("You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.") as opposed to Catholicism's belief in the importance of both faith and good works for salvation. Thus yet again disproven. I will not waste any further time in discord with you. Have a good day sir or madam and I will pray on your behalf.
@@AbsconditusTechnologies Ok, salvation is by faith alone, but it is also said that faith without works is dead. And there is no biblical or historic proof of the popes authority.
Luke 23:39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[d]” 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Saved by faith alone. He wasn't baptised, never took communion and didn't do any good works after his declaration of belief in the Messiah. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. Acts 16:31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, Acts 10:43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
Yes, faith is key, us Catholics believe that. But if you have faith and you continue to sin, you continue to offend God, you continue to be attached with the worldy things, do you truly believe and love Him? Cuz that's what I observed on most protestants, they think they can do whatever they want after professing that Jesus is their Lord and personal Savior. Remember, no filth can enter heaven. Those sinners whom Jesus saved in His time were cleansed by Him personally, afterwards they continued to live a Holy life. Same with the thief on the cross who believed Jesus, if he's given the chance to escape from the cross, I'm sure he'll change his ways and live a holy life, not to sin and follow Jesus heartily. So That's the point, have faith and change your ways, do not sin any longer, deny yourselves and follow Him
@@ite_ad_iosep That's exactly what I'm think. I don't think "Works" necessarily means charity but rather I think it's about 'Practicing what you preach.' Like as you said; you can't just claim Jesus as your lord and savior and still continue to live a sinful life.
Ephesians 2:8-9 - 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Faith is made perfect through works..James 2:22: Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? Faith without works is dead: James 2:17: Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
1. Our, absolute, GREATEST works are as filthy rags before the LORD (Isaiah 64 : 6). We receive salvation and are justified through Christ, alone. 2. Yes. True faith is accompanied by some form of "works." To be an apple tree one must produce, at least, one apple or it's lying. However, we can never deserve anything but eternal damnation aside from what God accomplished in Jesus Christ. FULLY trusting in Him, ALONE, is true faith in the Gospel; Which IS Salvation. No matter what we do, no one is worthy on their own (Ephesians 2 : 8 - 9). What our thanksgiving inspired works earns us are 1 or more of the "5 Crowns" of Heaven described in Scriptures. And even these should all, humbly, be placed at His feet anyway. There are too many verses to list the crowns here, but look them up on your own. 3. God has always forbidden His people from partaking in the pagan, demon-inspired practices / symbolisms of other peoples. We do NOT incorporate these things into our practices just to make things more palatable for pagans in order to lure them into the congregation. Scriptures say that God's elect are a "peculiar" people who are "strangers" and "pilgrims" in this world. The mitre hats, pinecone statues, burning incense, etc... I could go on for hours. How dare we present filth before the LORD?! Would a man's wife want a ring that was designed to the liking of her husband's mistress?.. Even IF he cleaned it up and wanted to present it to his wife. No! She would scoff at the very notion. 4. One of the 10 Commandments forbids making and honoring graven images of anything in heaven, on Earth, or beneath the waters... Lest we, ignorantly, honor things made by human hands out of wood, stone, and metal instead of He who made these materials themselves. 5. There is only ONE "Holy Father" and He is above all things! Amen... "Potentate" is used ONCE in the entire Holy Bible... 1 Timothy 6 : 15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and ONLY Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords" 6. As virtuous as Mary was there is no intercession thru anyone other than Christ. If ANYONE could live their entire life without sin, the LORD Himself wouldn't have needed to come and be the final propitiation for mankind (Isaiah 53 : 6). Even the veil of the old temple was rent in two. God has now given us direct access to Him in the Holy Ghost that guides and lives in us. We the believers are the "church." The following Scripture references ancient pagan goddess worship (Asherah among many other names) ; Which still goes on till this day... Jeremiah 7 : 18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger." 7. The true "Church" belongs to Jesus Christ. There is no one good or Holy but Him. There is no person or group of people that can tell another that they are not a part of His church (Excommunicated, Disfellowshiped, etc...). I'm not speaking of those with a "reprobate mind" who would, obviously, NOT be seeking God, holy fellowship, and deliverance from a sinful spiritual stronghold anyway. We were purchased with the price of His blood, and wholly belong to Him... Romans 8 : 38 - 39 "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." John 10 : 28... "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." There are other doctrinal issue that I could address, but this is enough for now. May the Holy Ghost lead us into all truth and righteousness, in Jesus' name. Amen.
@@georgepierson4920 And you self-righteous catholic are in bondage to a diabolical Roman Mother Mary Cult and you would not recognize The Truth even if it would bite you in your nose . The Jewish Jesus Christ Savior and Lord (not the Roman manufactured one) said : I am The Truth , The Way , The Life and No One comes to the Father but by Me . The Roman Catholic Religion is Satans Masterpiece and he is lying to you every day and since you have no spiritual discernment you believe his lies . You of all people call others liars , how pathetic . I suggest that you take the big log you have in your eyes out , so you may see more clearly .
@@georgepierson4920 Let those that are without SIN throw the first stone ..... You pious catholics never lie , you only believe in Satan's big religious lie and you regurgitate that lie every day and then have the nerve to call others liars . You need to get a grip on The Biblical Truth !
@@charis128 Stop... I see this so often.... Even protestants do this, and they're doing this with the rapture. Here's another thing that you are butchering with this passage..... READ THE CONTEXT. THREE verses later, he explains what he means by " In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." "You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[b] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone." Abraham was doing GOD'S will. If we do God's will, we will get greater "rewards"... that's the idea, not according to what man defines as good or bad. The Bible says what is good and what is bad, but it doesn't command us to do the good, it just tells us not to do the bad and to have faith. Otherwise, it would just being giving us half instructions. Your interpretation to the road to salvation: do deeds... uhh ok what deeds? If we say "I believe in God" but turn around and DECIDE to sin, the salvation is voided. Contrarily, if we say "I believe in God" and preach the gospel as so, you are putting into action what you preach, and doing God's will. But even so, REFRAINING from sin is the same as a "deed" in this context, because he's referring to practicing what you believe. If you say you have faith, then you must follow up that statement with your actions by not sinning because the God you believe in says not to. If you sin willingly, either 1. You doubt his existence 2. You are okay with sin 3. You are just taking advantage of his grace etc... BUT EVEN THEN, HE STILL FORGIVES YOU... but you HAVE TO REPENT and not do it again by figuratively cutting off the hand that causes you to sin. James is saying to keep your word and not be a hypocrite. The demons believe in God... but their deeds are nefarious. James' definition of a deed is an action or the lack of action. So your salvation is based off of faith (John 3:16) and actions or inaction, depending on if they go against God's law. Question 1: How many good deeds must you complete to attain salvation? 1? 7? Question 2: If there is a paraplegic man born blind and dumb who literally cannot do anything but believe in God. Is he condemned because he cannot do any "works"? Or is he saved because God has MERCY and GRACE? Catholicism's God is different from what the Bible preaches plain and simple. It's not a religion issue, it's man not having a relationship with God. You need to repent and pray directly to God and read your bible. Stop taking scripture and ignoring the context in order to fulfill your doctrine based off of poor interpretation and comprehension.
@@antrodaze910i think many protestants misunderstood whats the difference between salvation and justification. Salvation can be possible for us only by the Grace of our Father. All christians believe it included catholic. We are all saved by the Grace. BUT, to be saved you need to be justified first. Catholic teaches that justification isnt a single proses but an on going-until-death process. In that process, we are DAILY justified by our FAITH which is CONFESSED and SHOWN through our deed. We have to work on our salvation (Phil 2:12-13, James 2:14-16). So your question on how many good deeds to be justified? The answer isnt a quantity matter but the quality matter. You "do" good as long as you have faith because only by that you have faith! How about the blind? Do you even say that blind people cant do good? I dont know how's that question even logical. By the end of time, in the judgement day, we are all JUDGED according to our DEEDS (Rev 20:12). Then now, how come u say our deed isnt important? If it only takes "faith" why wouldt scripture says that at the judgement all who "believe" in jesus will directly go to heaven? Why jesus even say not those who call upon Me, Lord, lord but those who DO the will of My Father? 😉
The time a protestant says the Catholic Church is unbiblical and later on lectured by a well-versed former protestant that Protestantism is in fact the one that is unbiblical in a very respectful manner.
The church of rome puts its authority OVER God's Word, how can that be correct ? As anyone that looks at any Roman Catholic church it's full off idolatry, lies , superstition and Hersey. It's mostly man made, there are no popes, nuns, prayer beads , prayers for the dead, worship of Mary or any dead people inSide Word. God had to step in with the Reformation and bring the church into line with His Word. If you can't see this your on the broad road to he'll. Read God's Word for the Truth and I hope you find it
@@WhataboutTRUTH I’ll have to disagree. Was once Protestant but am no longer. So one thing. The Catholic Church CREATED (sorry if I’m being rude) the Bible and Martin Luther removed from it. Anyone who removes or adds to the word of God does not have his name in the book of life. Not only that we don’t worship Mary. As a former Protestant I used to think they did but now I know we don’t worship Mary or the Saints in fact. Also why wouldn’t you pray for the dead not praying too them but for them. If someone passed away, wouldn’t you pray for their soul?
EPHESIANS 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
@@mole215 You are ignoring Paul. The book of James is to the 12 tribes scattered abroad (James 1:1). Paul is the Apostles to the gentiles and his episltes are to the gentiles. We do good works BECAUSE we are saved, not to "earn" our salvation. James NEVER says works earn your salvation. Paul says the NEVER can.
matt 18: the church is the whole assembly. he didn't say tell it to the religious rulers. (church, ecclesia, assembly) the whole assembly, as in 1 cor 5., remove them, wake up, a little leaven leavens the whole lump, unless they repent openly. no secrets, expose them publicly. one mind. 1 tim. 5:20
@@chadlee243 you should read the church fathers. If you do you'll find what John Henry newman said was true and that is "To be steeped in church history is to no longer be protestant"
"Why Protestant Doctrine Is Unbiblical" ....as discussed by Catholic Answers? Maybe someone at Catholic Answers could point out where in the bible it mentions purgatory or limbo. Or where in the Bible it says a priest is required as an intermediary who a sinnner must confess their sins to before god or Jesus can forgive them.
I'm a Catholic guy. I'm not qualified to answer your questions but if you really want to know the answers I'm pretty sure there are other videos explaining the questions you're looking for. Another good channel you can check out is Ascension Presents. Either way, do some research and you'll find an answer. Hope I could help :)
@@nonconformist4802 If you think Catholics like me worship Satan, you don't know what Catholicism is. We don't worship the saints or Mary, we recognize them as saved people and ask for their intercession (their prayers); we institute the Eucharist at Mass because Jesus told us to (John 6:54 literally says "Whoever eats my body and drinks my blood has eternal life"); and as the earliest members of the now Catholic Church were the first followers of Jesus, we are the original church Jesus initiated and gave authority to (Simon to Peter, "on this rock I shall build my church," etc.) The reason I say all this is that these arguments are what Protestants bring up so often in religious debates. I wanted to get them out of the way bc I'm assuming you're a Protestant and it seems like these may answer some of your questions.
@@andybiehl8364 _We don't worship the saints or Mary, we_ _recognize them as saved people and_ _ask for their intercession_ Sounds so Biblical and holy and you call yourself again WHAT??? Go sell your rubbish talk to them that really don't know who you are, not to them you assumed know nothing
Everyone gets sooo hung up on salvation. But keep reading and you shall see It’s about LORDSHIP! It’s not a cheap Grace to see what we can GET but we are to be servants and serve him and be like Christ. He wants our entire being as we are to be followers of Him! He wants our obedience. “In that day many will say Lord Lord but didn’t I cast out demons in your name!?” “ Get away from me I never knew you!”
Galatians 2:16 “know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.” It’s very hard to twist this. Clearly says that one is not saved by works by faith in Christ.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” -Ephesians 2:8-9 I have never in my life seen someone twist scripture like these men. Salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ alone.
And you're right, the initial gift of salvation is given by grace through faith and not by work. Many Protestants don't know but the Church teach that, that we can do absolutely nothing to merit the grace that comes to us in baptism ( And it is also important to note that this church is *the perfect example* of this teaching because the Church baptizes babies and babies cannot do good works, what kind of works could a newborn baby have done to merit anything ? I think the question is quickly answered ). As the Council of Trent said in the decree on justification, Chapter 8 "We are therefore said to be justified gratuitously, because none of those things that precede justification, whether faith or *works,* merit the grace of justification. For 'if by grace, it is *not* now by works, otherwise, as the Apostle says, *grace is no more grace.'" (Romans 11:6)* And the Catechism of the Catholic church ( paragraph 2010 ) says "Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, *no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification,* at the beginning of conversion."
@@lonelyberg1808 would like to challenge you on the baptism of babies. One thing is the action of men believing what can save. But christ have those babies in mind. As you know everyone is accountable for there own salvation. If the babies die at birth don't you think God knows they would die? How can they lose salvation if they can even feed themselves? The work of men would be in vain by baptizing a baby. There action has no support biblically. There many reasons why I say this. And theres biblical reasons why I say there's any biblical reasons why men should do it such as action like that. I mean we both can read the bible. So, I ask that you give me the biblical support about this. And me as a protestant I'll show you the reasons why we protestants don't do it with all the bible support that there is. All I want to do is swap versions and see what really more accurate and understanding. I would will do my best effort to understand any point you bring. Will also give credit in anything I can find obvious or logical. So please. Your response will be really well appreciate it. But would also like for you to understand our points as Protestants to the things we see biblically and why we don't baptize babies. I want is for us to come together in accuracy based in how we do things upon the Bible. Jesus be with you.
There is one Spirit , one Lord. And so it is written. The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. God is Spirit. God bless.
I’m confused as to how justification by faith alone is unbiblical. James 2:24 is a verse in the context of outward justification of inward justifying faith in God. Verse 18 says, “Show me your faith without works, and I will show you faith by my works.” You can’t show someone your faith is true except by your works, just like Abraham was shown to be genuine in his faith because he was willing to give up his son for it. That is very different than Paul in Romans for example, who builds an argument entirely based on justification by faith alone, as it is written, “Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By one of works? No, on the contrary, by a law of faith. For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.” Romans 3:27-28. This is God’s justification for us to enter Heaven by His grace, not a justification of the reality of our faith. Romans 3:26 says God is the one justifying us who have faith. Justification in the sight of God by faith alone is entirely biblical, in fact Paul goes out on a limb numerous times to help us understand that we are saved by grace through faith, to the praise and glory of God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen!
"’m confused as to how justification by faith alone is unbiblical." Does the bible state one is justified by faith alone? One must understand what the word FAITH means. It is NOT just the initial intellectual ascent of faith. We must be faithful to all of what Christ commanded, including love of God and neighbor. That is why James 2 - God's Word - says that Abraham's faith was made complete by WORKS (of love, not the OT law). _22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works_ And can an incomplete faith save you ? God says no. _14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him?_ So we come to that intellectual ascent of faith - and walk in love of God in neighbor. And in doing so we are justified again, as was Abraham (again) .... _Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar?_ This is why God says in James, we are justified by Works (of love, not the OT Law), not faith alone. _ 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone._ Nothing out of context. God is clear in his Word.
No one taught faith alone for 1500 years? Basil the great.. AD 330 St Origin… AD 184 Chrysostom… AD 347 St Jerome.. AD 342 Clement of Rome… AD 35 all taught justification by faith alone Martin Luther was just the one who said enough was enough and did something about it
If you have faith and take no action, why should God give you everlasting life? Or even worse, if you have faith but do more evil than good and are unrepentant, then why should God give you everlasting life?
Your works will not match the grace of God. Your works can never make God more "God". Your works are nothing. They are privileges of grace. Because you have been given, you can give and not "have to give". There is a difference between a giver who gives because he has to and a giver who gives because he has been given. For the former, giving is a requirement but for the latter, giving is a privilege of having received a gift.
If you are a person with special needs and has no chance to do good actions that would guarantee your definition of everlasting life, will God save you? The thief whom Jesus Christ promised paradise did not even have a single chance to work because He died like Him. If we are going to look at works as our way to be saved and not the grace of God portrayed through dying of the cross, we would make Jesus Christ a liar and unfair to all of us. God is not like that. He is the God of justice so He gave His only begotten Son to serve that. Who are you to think that your works can match what Christ did on the cross? You, His creation can fill what He did on that cross? No amount of good works or action can add to the grace He gave. Such boastfulness to think that our works are everything! They are nothing! Are we going to do good work? A man who loves and has faith is justified by His works. A man moved by the Holy Spirit does not look at work as a requirement to everlasting life, but a privilege to do good because he received grace. Let us change our mindset of work here. They are nothing compared to His dying on the cross. Our good actions here on earth will not earn us an everlasting life. They will testify of God's goodness to us. They will testify to other people that God is a good God because they see that in your works. We are all living testimonies of the God that we believe in.
How much faith do you really have if you are not doing good works or if you are consistently doing more evil than good? Isn’t that what the scripture is saying: “faith without works is dead”?
The best argument ever! The ending was astonishing! I would love tô have the talent for apologetics, as you guys do, but God instead gave me other ones. I pray God makes me use mine to the Carholic Church as a musician, as well as you do yours. I live in Brazil and never get tired of watching your debates
@Game station Only Mary birthed Jesus, her mother nor grandmother did .In fact they would be the grandmother of JESUS and grandfather of JESUS. Remember Jesus had a human nature and a divine nature. If Jesus is God according to you, and Mary birthed Jesus. what does that make her.
I don't have any disagreement that faith MUST be accompanied by works. There is sufficient scripture to back this up. What I don't understand is the last part where Jesus gives authority over to the church. My understanding is that this is not a license for all authority, but to resolve conflicts when they arise due to specifically sin. Somehow, the catholic church goes overboard with this and resolves to take authority for everything.
*Catholics can never explain why BIBLE says SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS!* *BIBLE SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED NOT BY WORKS, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST* ( Only unbelievers and Jews under Mosaic Law are judged by works for salvation. Romans 2, Rev 20:13. Christians are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2:8-9. ) ● 2 Tim 1:9 …. saved NOT according to our WORKS. ● Eph 2:8-9 … saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. ● Titus 3:5 …. saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Gal 2:16 …. not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! ● Rom 4:6 … Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH ● Rom 11:6 … IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE ● John 3:16 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! ● Acts 16:30-31 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! ● Eph 2: 8-9 … salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! ● Rom 4:1-2 … justified NOT BY WORKS! ● Rom 4:3 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Rom 4:4 … WORKS are debts ● Rom 4:5 … he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED ● Rom 4:5 … God justifies the ungodly, ● Rom 4:5 … FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Rom 4:8 … imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! ● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! ● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! ● Rom 4:11 … Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH ● Rom 4:14-15 … Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. ● Rom 4:22 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Rom 4:22 … RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! ● Gal 2:16 … justified not by Works of the Law, but BY FAITH IN CHRIST! ● Gal 2:21 … if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. ● Gal 3:1-5 … Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? ● Gal 3:1-5 … Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? ● 2 Cor 5:21 … GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. ● 1 Pet 2:24 … Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS) ● John 1:29 … Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) ● Luke 23:43 … the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS!
@@johnyang1420 *RCs failed to answer once again. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.* - submit to Roman pope to be saved - devote to Roman Mary to be saved - be in Roman Church to be saved - partake Roman sacraments to be saved - baptise in Roman baptism to be saved - do lots of works to be saved
Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved,through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
@Cortney Nicholson Correct we are created for good works but we are given the gift of salvation. You do not work for a gift and the works God has for you are the gold ,silver, and precious gems of 1 Cor 3:11-15
@Cortney Nicholson Eph 2:10 shows us that we were created to do GOOD works not bad works . God is the one that we go to and He directs us to those Good works that He wants us to do. 1 Cor 3:11-15 is the context of verse 15. There is no purgatory nor any need of purgatory because Christ died on the cross for every sin we have done are doing or will do. We are forgiven when we repent and follow Christ . God gives us salvation as a gift as evidenced by Eph 2: through faith. You might notice the term through faith has nothing attached to it , not alone , not works , not anything. Eph 2: also points out that God places our spirits in the heavenly realm with Jesus after we repent. Our flesh that does not inherit the kingdom of God is what we have to work with and on. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins we are mostly clean? That is what purgatory claims. Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, He saved us , is not the same as He is saving us. So back to building on the foundation of Christ in 1 Cor 3: , you can not build with sin so sin is not in question here and purgatory is for getting rid of the stain of sin. Coll 2:9-15 tells you that Christ dying on the cross for you and did everything for you already to make you clean . 1 Cor 6: gives you a whole mess of things we have done before Christ came into our lives and verse 11 points out what we WERE and what has happened to us because of Christ. The wood hay and stubble of our lives is what we do thinking it is pleasing to God and that is not His will for us. The gold silver and precious gems is the work that God has directed us to do and there are rewards for service to God as Paul points out. You are building on the foundation of Christ , you are building up the church with what you do . Faith in action . James 2:15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you tells him, “Go in peace; stay warm and well fed,” but does not provide for his physical needs, what good is that? 17 So too, faith by itself, if it does not result in action, is dead. Do you think this is worth a reward from God or is this some wood hay and stubble that you have built with?
How about you Prots stop leaving our the next verse? "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." When you take ANYTHING a Protestant quotes and read the next few lines it instantly sounds Catholic, and its because they pervert the scripture and leave things out to support their false man made religion.
The scripture proves that works are a portion of the salvation formula. I come at it from this angle. Bob is chosen by God and is called. Bob truly believes and is completely changed. Because Bob now knows the Truth and can’t ever go back, he just can’t help but do good things through his love of God. I’m a protestant branch Christian and I just don’t know why this is a debated issue. I do believe works are important!
James Chapter 2 - Verse 14 "Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead."
Maybe the Catholics would like to explain away that part of the NT where it says in later times deceiving spirits would come, forbidding men to marry, amongst other things. All this absolute nonsense discussion and controversy and misunderstanding between faith and works. It's not difficult, actually it's so pathetic and shameful that a whole bunch of mature Christians have to endlessly debate a basic belief of the Bible. No wonder non believers mock us. When you first become saved, it's purely by faith. You cannot earn it and only the sacrifice of Jesus provides it. Think of the thief on the cross. He could not do any works hanging on the cross. But he believed and was saved. However.......... After time, there is process of sanctification as the Bible states, means that you grow in faith. The thief on the cross could not do any good works, he could not grow in faith, he could not grow in knowledge of the scriptures. If however he was suddenly pardoned after confessing Jesus he would bear fruit, as Jesus said. That means good works, in accordance with your faith, it means growing in hope, love, goodness, kindness etc, it means repentance of dead works and sin, it means growing in knowledge of the scriptures, in prayer, in devotion in daily life. You are saved by faith only. If you, like the thief on the cross, have a couple of hours to live and are immobile and cannot do anything, good or bad, you are saved exclusively by belief and confession of the name of Jesus. If like the most of us you continue to live upon this earth, then your faith grows and you increase in fruits of the Spirit, in works and deeds, in knowledge etc. It's not hard to understand. This is just basic and to our shame as Christians we debate even the milk of the word, as Paul said. The entrance to Heaven is by faith in Christ. Nothing else. The life you love in Christ, your works, deeds, devotion, love, patience, kindness etc determine your rewards in Heaven, again as Paul says. After confessing Christ if you are truly devoted to Him, you will grow in works, deeds, repentance, love, kindness, patience etc. When the Bible says that faith without works is dead, it means those who confess Christ but are not really devoted to Him afterwards. It means false or shallow disciples, those who believe but don't bear fruit as Jesus said in the parable of the sower. They stagnate in their faith and do not grow in Him. Hence they produce no good works or anything else such as repentance, goodness, kindness, patience, gentleness love etc. This is all just basic Biblical teaching. There should be no misunderstanding of such an elementary teaching of the Bible and its to professing Christians shame that such debate occurs.
So you just made yourself into your own Pope claiming authority to interpret the Bible. Big deal. The difference between you and the Pope is that he was given authority by Christ and you were not. Do you think truth is determined by a democracy of ideas in which each man follows his own understanding? The Bible teaches that truth is determined by authority, not by deciding what you think is the best argument. Your unexamined method of exegesis is not Biblical; it's a man made tradition invented by Luther. Every man can write their own version of what you wrote, but so what? The question is, who does the Bible say Jesus gave spiritual authority? Ill give you a hint; it was not you and it was not me.
@@stevedoetsch So imbecile I'm not even going to bother replying. And most other people reading your post would agree with me. Christ directly giving authority to the Pope. Lol, nice one dude. 😆
You made a giant write up claiming authority to interpret the Bible for others yet you think its ridiculous that someone else can do it too? Yes, the Catholic Church claims authority from Christ; it's the only Church with apostolic succession from St Peter to the current Pope. Your [insert any Protestant denomination] church was made by someone other than Christ. You have still failed to explain what makes your explanation of the Bible more correct than anyone else's. Non-Biblical methods of exegesis are contradictory because each man claims his understanding of the Bible is better than other people's. Why do you think your explanation of the Bible is better than mine, or the Pope's, or anyone's?
@@stevedoetsch Paul says that doctrines of demons will come into the church in latter times, forbidding to marry and forbidding to eat foods. What part of that needs explaining and "interpreting" to you? Anyone with half a brain can easily interpret that. You forbid to marry-doctrine of demons. You forbid foods-doctrine of demons. Tell me you can't understand something as simple as that. What is wrong with you?
What darkness, the 1500+ years of Christianity prior to luther? He brought you the hearsay of sola sciptura resulting in 45-thousand protestor denominations which are at odds with Catholics and each other. Surely God wanted that, right?
I left the Catholic Church in 1986, after the priest was espousing liberation theology. I found freedom through reading the bible and salvation through the cross. I have a personal relationship with Jesus. I remember as child having a little statue of Mama Mary and praying the rosary over and over again. Ephesians makes it clear we are saved by grace and not by works, works are the evidence of our faith and not the cause of our salvation. Oh it's nice to have a radio show and give answers to people who have limited theological training. Why don't you invite John MacArthur, or Chuck Swindoll?
I recommend you read Ephesians 2 completely. The letter is clearly stating you no longer have to conduct works such as "circumsion" to be considered saved. It is by Gods grace you are saved, not through the old procedures as before.
Human, who are you to think thay your "works" will match the grace of God and would make Him be more God? 😂 Only grace can save. Forget working as requirement. Work because you were given grace. No work is required to go to heaven becaus if it were so, Jesus Christ would be a liar when He said to the thief, "Today, you will be with me in paradise." That "work to be saved" paradigm was deconstructed by one sentence and one situation. 😂 God be praised!
I’m a Protestant and I do not agree with everything Catholics practice. However, I have so much respect for them because they help so many people. Growing up we were poor and didn’t have money for food so we went to a local Catholic church many times and they fed us.
I used to question the catholic faith, as i was born catholic. But since i became more knowledgeable about the faith, i love it. It is all biblical. Father alar does great videos about the faith. Any topic you could imagine
@@JESUSCHRISTISLORD9 catholic pray to mary just because she has the closest relationship to jesus christ catholic believe mary is the first woman who got saved by her own son catholic only honor and respect mary not view mary as a goddess
@@aaronfung8025 prayer and worship only belongs to God Alone Brother. We all have closest Relationship with jesus. Jesus died not for only sins but also to join the Relationship again with God. The spirit of God (Holyspirit) who himself is God. Is in us. So we are much closer to Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. You first must have faith then you must share your faith and live a godly life
The Lord always does things with "Purpose." It's very interesting to know that Jesus established His Church in "33" A.D. The age He was when when He Suffered His Passion, Death, following His Glorious Rising from the "dead." May the Lord Jesus Christ be Praised, Blessed, Adored and Glorified, now and forever, 🙏 Amen ✝️.
@@FJhei I never argue further with prots. They refuse to listen and understand when you give them biblical answers to their questions about the Catholic faith.
@@adamjones6473 LOL not sure what you were trying to point out there when all I was saying is prots always disregard the 10th verse. I agree that works are a product of faith and that is why Faith without works is dead. You might also wanna review the Parable of the barren fig tree
What most protestants get wrong is the definitions of words. The word faith has works in it's definition. Faith does not mean just saying something, if you really believe it's true you also act like it's true. Also works doesn't mean results, as if we are materialists, it means the effort you put in to abide by what you believe. Also when we pray to saints, prayer has many different definitions, only one of them is worship, we don't worship saints, nor Mary. Prayer can mean asking, telling, apologising, thanking or worshipping, only the last of reserved for God. People started bickering over semantics and separated from the one true church, of course without being told to do so by God. There is the problem.
Everyone already mentioned Ephesians, but my main issue is Paul's letter to Timothy. 1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1 Timothy 4:3 "Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." Catholic Priests, Bishops, and Cardinals should all be allowed to marry. Abstaining from meat should not be a requirement during Lent.
Read a Kjv Bible then you’ll find out the actual biblical truth. We are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves. Religious man made traditions lead to nowhere. John 14:6 Jesus said I am the way, the truth, and the Life, no one gets to the Father but by me. P.S. Mary can’t hear your prayers. I highly recommend you pray to God only, and only to God about where to guide you. I don’t know you personally, but I care enough for you. I don’t want you to be deceived. Please pray for guidance. God will lead you to the truth. That truth is through Jesus Christ alone. He is the savior.
@@techgamer8 Matthew 16:18-19: “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” When Jesus gave St. Peter the “keys of the kingdom of Heaven,” this was not to mean he gave Peter the keys TO Heaven. Keys, as further referenced in Luke 11:52, are not keys in the way we think, but rather a way of saying “teaching authority” in those days, not literal keys that open the gates of Heaven. Jesus entrusted Peter as his successor to be the first Pope of the Catholic Church and gave him the authority to of teaching the faith to the world by giving him the “keys of the kingdom of Heaven.” As for “the gates of Hades” not overcoming the Church, the Catholic Church is the longest standing Church that was founded by Jesus Christ. It is true that no matter how much the Church has suffered, nothing has overcome it: Not the great schism of 1054, where the Orthodox church started their own denomination and separated from the Catholic Church. Not during the fall of Rome, or even before that when it was Catholics who were martyred for spreading the Word of Christ. Not when Martin Luther was excommunicated over 500 years ago and wrote the 95 Thesis’s, starting the Protestant movement against the Catholic Church. Jesus also gave the Apostles the authority they have as the first clergy of the Church: John 20:21-23: Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” While misinterpreted by many Protestant denominations today, these were the events described when Jesus gathered the Apostles and entrusted them the power to be the pipeline to the Lord when one has committed mortal sin. The biggest misconception I hear is that Priests forgive sins in confessions, which is far from the truth. Jesus entrusted the Apostles and Peter to become the pipeline to the Lord when a mortal sin has been committed. No person ever confessed to a man, but rather a cleric who has opened the pipeline directly to God the Father for those sins may be heard by the Lord and be forgiven by the Lord alone. The priests only serve as the pipeline to the Lord and to pass on the teachings of Jesus so that individual may have clarity on how to improve their life and live to serve the Lord and one another in their community. As far as the Mary misconception, we do not pray to Mary. We ask Mary and the angels and saints for intercession and petition to Jesus Christ on our behalf. Mary is the Queen Mother of Heaven, completely incapable of ruling independently, she is only meant to petition to Lord Jesus on our behalf (John 2:1-5, when Mary requests Jesus to help the wedding at Cana by turning water into wine). The queen mother role is mentioned in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 13:18). In conclusion, I stand by the Church that Jesus entrusted to guide humanity as the defender of the truth, not the decider. Yes, there are many wolves in sheep’s clothing that have infiltrated the Church and unless they repent, they will face justice when they meet the Lord in the next life. Just because of some flawed people trying to turn souls away from Christ does not mean I will turn away from the foundational structure Jesus set up for all of humanity to follow. And yes, we as Catholics wholeheartedly agree that Jesus Christ alone is our way to God the Father and our salvation. However, our petitioning to Mary and the angels and saints, who are alive in Heaven and are aware of what is happening on earth, does not contradict the idea that Jesus is our only way to salvation. It deepens it! It is the same idea as if we were to ask a friend to pray for us. As a guideline to Catholic prayer: we ask Jesus for intercession, and we pray to the Father for adoration.
@@justifiedgameenforcer4173 @Ed Matthew 16:18-19: “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on YOU I will build my church??? Who is the cornerstone? who is in the foundation of the church? Eph 2:19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit. So there is no brick and mortar church mentioned here , no cathedrals , no temple with any alter as that is all old testament and not the new covenant. When Jesus gave St. Peter the “keys of the kingdom of Heaven,” this was not to mean he gave Peter the keys TO Heaven. Keys, as further referenced in Luke 11:52, are not keys in the way we think, but rather a way of saying “teaching authority” As for “the gates of Hades” not overcoming the Church, the Catholic Church is the longest standing Church that was founded by Jesus Christ. It is true that no matter how much the Church has suffered, nothing has overcome it: If time of religious belief is so drastically important then Zen Buddhism must be true as it has endured for 2500+ years . It is NOT true and it deceives millions . Not when Martin Luther was excommunicated over 500 years ago and wrote the 95 Thesis’s, starting the Protestant movement against the Catholic Church. Now here is something you like to say because some guy caught the Roman Catholic church with both hands in the cookie jar giving out, for a price , indulgences so that the rich could sin but their sins were forgiven by the church for the amount of money they paid to the church . Indulgences are not found in scripture , nor is this fabricated place called purgatory , but the Roman Catholic church claimed it as truth. Luther rebels against the Roman Catholic church hierarchy . He is not rebelling against the only church that has salvation as a gift , he is not rebelling against the Lord Jesus Christ at all. The council of Trent is called and the sale of indulgences was reduced as they are still available today. Jesus also gave the Apostles the authority they have as the first clergy of the Church: New Catholic Bible Jesus also gave the disciples the authority John 20:21-23: Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” All believers in the Lord Jesus have the authority to forgive or retain but any believer following Christ will realize that forgiveness is first and foremost the right course of action. The priests only serve as the pipeline to the Lord and to pass on the teachings of Jesus so that individual may have clarity on how to improve their life and live to serve the Lord and one another in their community. We have the scriptures that Paul tells timothy in 2 Tim 3:15-17 that to be thoroughly equipped the scriptures are all that he needs. The old and new testaments do not contradict each other so that verse is also for us today. There is no reference in the entire new testament where someone was set up to listen to the confessions of sin and dictate penance or forgiveness to the common believer. Old testament temple had that but now we have direct access to God and no middleman is required. Heb 4:15,16 As far as the Mary misconception, we do not pray to Mary. We ask Mary and the angels and saints for intercession and petition to Jesus Christ on our behalf. Great double talk! we do not pray to Mary. CCC 2679 Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father, who sends his Son to save all men. Like the beloved disciple we welcome Jesus' mother into our homes, for she has become the mother of all the living. We can pray with and to her. The prayer of the Church is sustained by the prayer of Mary and united with it in hope. We ask Mary and the angels and saints for intercession and petition to Jesus Christ on our behalf. OK so you don't pray to Mary , but as she is dead and her spirit alive in the heavenly realm with Jesus you ask her to intercede for you? Just what is the difference between prayer and asking when it comes to asking or praying to a dead person ? Maybe you should look to see who intercedes for you in the scriptures ? Romans 8:34 New Catholic Bible 34 Who will condemn? Christ Jesus, who died, or rather rose again, who is at God’s right hand and intercedes for us? You will not find one verse in the entire bible with all the books that tells you to pray to anyone other than God. But you ask a dead person or a dead saint ,or an angel to petition to Jesus on your behalf? Where is your basis for that belief ? Mary is the Queen Mother of Heaven, completely incapable of ruling independently, she is only meant to petition to Lord Jesus on our behalf Nonsense and totally man made belief as it is not found in scripture at all. (John 2:1-5, when Mary requests Jesus to help the wedding at Cana by turning water into wine). maybe read that verse again as Mary does not tell or request Jesus to do anything. She does however request/ command the servants. The queen mother role is mentioned in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 13:18). Yup and Queen of heaven is stated in Jeremiah 7:16-19 but it is not complimentary.! And yes, we as Catholics wholeheartedly agree that Jesus Christ alone is our way to God the Father and our salvation. does this mean you will deny the apparitions at Fatima and Guadalupe for their false doctrine ? However, our petitioning to Mary and the angels and saints, who are alive in Heaven and are aware of what is happening on earth, does not contradict the idea that Jesus is our only way to salvation. So now instead of prayer or asking ,it is petitioning Mary and the saints to twist the arm of Jesus to get His attention? It deepens it! It is the same idea as if we were to ask a friend to pray for us. Well this sentence is found in James and yes it is living people praying for living people on the same planet , it is not referring to living person praying for dead person for healing. As a guideline to Catholic prayer: we ask Jesus for intercession, and we pray to the Father for adoration. Not to far back above you stated that Mary intercedes for you?
“Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,” Romans 4:4-5
@@jediv9492 The problem I find is that Catholics are either being taught the negatives of Luther only ,or the lies of the RCC in that anyone who goes by faith must not be doing anything for anyone else. All too often up comes the verse about what you did for the least of these you did for me and it seems if you go by faith you ignore this? Just not true at all.
@@bobloblawb2593 *Yes indeed. Catholics claimed Faith Alone means no works. So its dead faith. But its the opposite. Faith Alone comes with good works. Eph **2:10**, Gal **5:22**. So its indeed a Living Faith.*
@@jediv9492 "Today for breakfast I had eggs alone. I also had pancakes, oatmeal, and fruit as well, but I had eggs alone." So you are not aware of the complete irrationality and cognitive dissonance in claiming that "faith alone" also includes works? If you believe in faith and works as the Bible teaches then you reject the idea of "faith alone" invented by Luther.
How can you go from saying, "Jesus didn't give us the Bible, He gave us the Church" to using Scripture to establish the Church's authority? The whole point of the video is about how Protestants go against Scripture. And yes, the Church has authority. That's a big part of it's purpose. But, that doesn't mean it has authority over God's Word. And when the Church judges these conflicts, are they not to use Scripture to do so? It seems you are saying we should view Scripture through the lense of the Church as opposed to the Church through the lense of Scripture. How can we have consistency if we have to rely on humans when humans disagree with each other and even change their own minds quite often? Does the Gospel change? What about if one pope disagrees with his predecessor or successor?
If the scripture was complete and full then you could give it to any group of two or more people anywhere in space or time and allow them to use it to sort things out and with a fair reading you'd expect the same result every time. If it's not full and complete and requires constant human oversight and adjustment and amendment then it's not worth basing a religion on.
@@mattallred Nope! Humans are sinners and no one follows Scripture perfectly. We follow Scripture to varying degrees and some don't attempt to do so at all. Although personal Bible study is important, I agree that it's important to also study in community with others. Two people in isolation would not benefit from being in a larger group of mature and growing believers who would help them understand Scripture better and avoid heresy. This is why we have preachers and teachers and are commanded to meet together. (They could obviously only meet with each other.) But, we all have some heretical beliefs, because at best we are fallen creatures corrupted by sin studying with other maturing fallen creatures corrupted by sin. We will not achieve perfection on this earth. It is we who need adjustment, not Scripture. And of course, some interpretation is necessary. It was written thousands of years ago over the course hundreds or thousands of years, in an entirely different culture and translated from a different language. We all have cultural lenses and don't even always recognize when we are looking through them. We can learn a lot from personal Bible study, but this is one of the reasons small group settings and larger corporate gatherings are so important. Others can show us our errors and provide insights they have gleaned that any individual may not pick up in personal study.
@@juanitadudley4788 in philosophical debate it is possible to consider a situation in which there are isolated individuals - I'm not talking about some guys sitting in a basement in Ohio, I'm talking in a logical hypothetical. I myself am not a follower of Jesus and do not intend to become one but I'd imagine if God had gone through the trouble of establishing a kingdom on earth with his chosen people and giving his word to them and then fulfilling the prophecy through Jesus that it would have been for the reason of giving a definitive word - a finite law and final word. If two space aliens arrived in the future and only found a single Bible and attempted to recreate the religion you'd assume they'd create something very similar, assuming otherwise implies that the faith is not catholic (full, universal, complete) but rather a bureaucratic legalistic system of amendment and human will. I just don't see the point if the religion cannot be made new again in the same likeness every day by a fair reading of the text.
Grew up a Catholic, revered Jesus and respected Mary as the blessed mother of God. Prayed many Hail Mary's and Our Fathers. Encountered priests nuns and brothers that didn't seem particularly happy and certainly was led to feel less than and kept in their religious prison. Never felt free to be where I was at. But I was a Catholic and I was cool with that. At 34 encountered Pentecostal church. Had a profound encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ. Was given a greater understanding of who I was in Christ and formed a relationship with the Holy Spirit that is still marvellous until this day. In the Catholic Church I learnt reverence but the general feel amongst the Catholics was that the protestants were beneath us. That did not seem like love to me. In the protestant church I found freedom in the Holy Spirit and was able to forge a real relationship with Jesus. Protestants reckon the Pope is the Antichrist and they're also way to fixated on the devil ( deliverance ministry). I certainly agree with the bible that states Mary is greatly blessed amongst all women, but I believe many Catholics pray more to Mary than they do through Christ to the Father. I've listened to Catholic scholars attempt to use scripture to say that Mary is queen of heaven. The scriptures they use seem to stretch the bow a little bit. Until I see it by revelation in the scriptures, I don't have an opinion either way. I believe Protestants and Catholics are part of the body of Christ and it would certainly be wonderful if they would stop arguing over one word. What a Glorious Church to behold if we could truly come together as one united body. Reminds me of that Catholic song " and we pray that our unity will one day be restored and they'll know we are Christians by our love." Lift your game brethren stop having to be right. Come together in love ❤️ in Jesus name. Peace and Grace.
You can still have that zeal and personal encounter with Christ as a member of the Catholic Church. Just bc you experienced a few bad apples doesn’t mean the Catholic Church is invalid or that it ceases to be the One that Christ founded.
The queen mother comes from old biblical terms where the Kings mother in the old Testament was called the queen. Not the King's wife. Mary is the mother of Jesus who is God if you believe in the trinity this makes Mary the Queen Mother I hope that helps
@kathyweiland4732 Thank you for sharing that. I had not looked at it with that understanding. Futher searching revealed the Hebrew word Gebhirah, translated Queen Mother or Great Lady. Nice 😊. I'm still left with the question of whether or not I can communicate with Mary and the saints. I can't find any examples in the Bible. I hope I'm not being contentious, I just don't want to be engaged in any practices that in any way displeases our Lord and I certainly don't want to push away something that God has ordained to be a Holy practice. Jesus is the way to the Father, I will continue in the Lords Prayer and walking in the Faith of the son of God. I pray you encounter greater Grace's in God this day. Bless you.
@anthonymiskell1772 The Bible does mention praying for the dead and the early Christians believed in intercessory prayer with those in Heaven. Intercession was also taught in the Bible.
@littleone1656 the Bible speaks about raising the dead, not praying to or through those that have died. I don't think you read or understood my post. Jesus intercedes for us to the Father. Those alive on the Earth can pray for one another.
18 years old raised Lutheran. After a longtime of not going to church regularly, I’ve come to the truth of the Catholic Church. Confirmation this Easter!!! Praise be to God
WELCOME!!!
That’s awesome!! Welcome!
You don't even know what Catholic means, you're going from one false church to another.
@@WhataboutTRUTH Catholic means universal, the Church that has been for 2000 years. I politely disagree with you and will pray for you. God bless
@@dominiccugliari2282 friend you should do your research.
The first time "A church" was called catholic was in 110, but this was base on those that were a lined with it. Do your math.
By 381 the catholic church wasn't the same. And changed as "Roman Catholic Church."
Sometimes we do our history, but we don't go all the way deep to reading what is not convenient.
Romans brought in there culture, policies, laws, habits, morals, etc.... to the Catholic Church.
Before Constantine, people had to come by a name which helped them be protected by those persecuting them. And those a lined by the Catholic Church had to say they were Catholic.
I recommend you read everything you can read about Constantine and the cult of Isis and Mithraic.
Read about "what happen to those that worship a God by the name of Diana in the bible?"
Now..... Friend, if I were to tell you just by reading the bible would you find yourself to be catholic?
Like; would you ever know about the Hail Mary prayer without any catholic telling you?
Would you ever believe that a dead saint can actually speak for you while he or she is in heaven?
Would you ever believe peter was the first Pope?
Would you ever believed in the purgatory?
What about the remembrance in the statues or images?
These are just a few things.
But what I want to get to is this.
Do you really believe Christ is going to recognize you by being called catholic? Is he going to recognize you by a certain church building?
I'm no where close to being called catholic. But..... I can say we are the church for following christ. But one thing is to say it. And the other thing is that Christ can recognize you as his church which is way different.
I don't mean to sound smart. Nor did I comment you to be mean.
Just thought maybe you can use a push on some subjects or maybe give you a few thoughts to open.
“Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.” Galatians 2:16.
“For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.” Romans 3:28.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
Brandon Becker so beautifully put, bless you Brandon.
AMEN!
nosuchthing8 study church history sir. The apocrypha was never in the original cannon.
nosuchthing8 can you identify what books? And how exactly those books got in the cannon?
nosuchthing8 we know based on what we know the Jews considered cannon throughout their history, and it was never any of the apocrypha. The apocrypha were around, but they weren’t considered divinely inspired by any Jews, or by Jesus and the believers in the New Testament. How many pieces from the apocrypha are quoted by Jesus and the apostles? Oh yeah, zero. Why? They weren’t canonical, they weren’t Gods word.
I'm not Catholic and I believe faith without works is dead but I am not saved because of my works. I'm saved because of Christ's finished work. Is this not what protestants teach? How is this not what the bible teaches?
“Faith without works is dead”. You said it! That’s what the Catholic Church teaches and if that’s what your church teaches and what you believe great! The issue is the vast majority of Protestant sects, with the exception of yourself, emphasize “faith alone” to exclude works. Regarding salvation, yes you are not saved by works alone, but by your faith in Jesus-A faith which encompasses Belief and WORKS, because as you said faith is hollow (dead) without the other. Hope this helps, God bless you
First off, it's hard to nail down what protestants teach because there are over 40,000 denominations and sects within protestantism, each with it's own set of doctrines and biblical interpretations. Like Tim said in the video, some protestant groups are moving back to an understanding of "faith AND works." That it is our faith in Christ that gives us the grace to do great works in His name, and bring His light to the world.
However, a lot of protestants (including Martin Luther himself) insisted that no works were required. In fact, Martin Luther famously said "If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world." So not only did he preach against needing works WITH faith, he advocated for us to sin boldly because it was our faith alone. This, of course, ignores Jesus' own words in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." (many of his commandments through the New Testament being works-based; alms giving, loving our neighbor as He loved us, praying for our enemies, evangelizing all nations would be a few examples.)
Jesus also said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you will not have life within you." Protestants don't agree on what that means. They have a false, man-made "church" without the Body and Blood of Christ
@@wms72 Lutherans believe in transubstantiation just like Catholics do. Luther was a Catholic priest before they kicked him out.
@@DarrylCross you mean 1000 not 40000
As a Catholic, I feel like Protestants think that Catholics believe they are saved by works ALONE. Of course not! The works don’t count if they are not rooted in faith in love. God bless anyone reading this comment.
Have you done enough works???
What do you mean your a Catholic, Catholic means universal, that is someone who belongs to a universal church, it doesn't mean the protestant church or the Roman church. So think about it, what are you ?
Romans 11:6 and if by grace then it is no more of works, otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace, otherwise work is no more work.
Actually, according to the Council of Trent, the doctrine of Grace is anathemized, and the Roman church believes its adherents are saved through the Eucharist and sacraments.
@@franciscoscaramanga9396 that is u biblical. Read Romans 1-5 and you will see why salvation is based on faith and belief for righteousness.. not rudiments of the world. There's a lot of ways the Catholic Church is simply wrong, just like the Methodist Baptist and pentacostals churches are incorrect. There's a difference between the truth and religion.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace(A) you have been saved,(B) through faith(C)-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works,(D) so that no one can boast.(E)
Isaiah says our good work in the eyes of God is filthy rags.. if good work can lead us to salvation then Jesus died in vain.....
Read Ephesians 2:10
indeed
I don't understand what you're all talking about..🤣😜... Who is teaching that everybody will get their salaries even without working??? So God gives you grace, and faith and that's free...so what now??? You work only on the end you say your work is useless, you are not save by works, if that is the kind of faith that you have....ok...fine...SIT and SLEEP then...😋🤣😜
That doesn't disprove works
@@anthonycalipjo8669 the catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ
a genuine faith will always be followed by works springing out of that faith
Unless you die right after having faith
@@Ian-xd2in lol
@@Ian-xd2in The moment you accept Christ's complete work of His saving grace is the moment you pass from death to life.
@William Cloud ok man, when you stand before The Lord and He tells you that He founded the one holy Catholic and apostolic church and this is what you said about it? You have no excuse if you watched this
There's no genuine faith in the RCC though!
"Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”" John 6:28-29. From the lips of Jesus. Works are the fruit of salvation not the cause of salvation. This is seen in type: Cain offered the works of his own hand and was rejected. Abel offered a blood sacrifice and was accepted.
Milan is absolutely correct. I grew up RC and now read and live according to the Bible. There's a lot I could say about RC doctrine but all you have to do is read the Bible to know the difference between RCism and Biblical Christianity. The reality is that RC's don't read their Bible and get duped by this kind of heretic. Works and Law to gain salvation bring nothing but pride and empty activity. Trust in Christ alone and you will receive the Holy Spirit who will direct you away from such non sense and yes create in you a desire to do good and server Jesus which will bring great rewards in this life and the next. But mostly his love and peace which no works can buy or pay for, it is a gift, praise God.
And to believe means to follow, then that is faith applied resulting in goods works. Same things as when you believe in a leader figure like a coach or a mentor, you don't know him that much yet but you have faith that he/can help you achieve the results you want & so you believe in him & follow his instructions which produce the work
I don't think that man understands the central message of the bible
I read the same bible and came out with a different conclusion than he did
Thank you though
The Paul he quotes says different things all together
GRACE WITH WORKS IS NO LONGER GRACE
@C Xtzin
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
"Salvation is by grace alone through faith...and not by works, lest anyone should boast."--Ephesians
That is essentially Ephisians 2:8-9. You are taking it out of context. Please, read Ephesians 2:10 as well. Or, better.yet, the entire 2nd book of Ephisians, instead of simply cherry picking the verses you, personally, want.
@@robertamcdonald5734 "All things work together for good to those who love God, for those who are called according to his purpose. For whom He FOREKNEW, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of Jesus so that Christ might be the first born of many brethren."
@@m.donahue6085 Spot On, Amen.
"For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:10
In context we should not boast in our own works, but in the good works we are gifted and compelled to do in faith to our Lord Jesus.
@@sifuanthonytarasca1686 "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father, except through ME." --Jesus Christ
@@m.donahue6085 Amen.
How about the criminal who was crucified, along with Jesus in Luke 23:40-43? He got saved right? He got saved because of God's grace through his faith not by his works. Good works is the result of salvation. Read Ephesians 2:8-9 as well you'll see on that verse that, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast." Also in Isaiah 64:6 stated that "All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our RIGHTEOUS ACTS are like FILTHY RAGS; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." So we will see here that our good works are just filthy rags before God. You will only be saved through faith then good works will follow as a result of your salvation.
Luke 23:40-43
-But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."
Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."
Almighty God od knows everything about all of us. It is very possible that the good thief had done many good things in the past and when being cruxcifed, he obviously repented while the other thief might have also done good things in the past, did not repent.
@@juans6639 we cannot earn our salvation by doing good deeds as stated in Ephesians 2 it is the Apostle Paul himself who wrote it, salvation is freely given, it is God's grace to us through faith in Christ alone, that is the Good News of the Lord Jesus Christ, good works is the by product of your salvation it is the good fruit that will come after you got saved. If you are doing good to earn your way to heaven then that is not the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life as stated in John 14:6, he didn't say that "I and your good works is the way to the Father." It is in Christ alone that we can be saved we cannot add or deduct anything from the Scriptures.
Amen!!!
Thanks for preaching Truth!
@@mole215 I agree, God's grace is undeserved, unmerited, unearned favour this is something we cannot earn through our good works, it is freely given by God to those who believe. Justification through faith alone in Christ alone is biblical, I don't see the reason why the title of the video says that protestant's doctrine of salvation is unbiblical, they were saying faith alone is not enough to be justified they were saying that faith plus works is the way for us to be justified but the Scriptures says a different thing it is stated throughout the Bible that we are justified through faith alone in Christ Jesus (Romans 3:28, Romans 5:1, Habakkuk 2:4, Galatians 2:21, Galatians 2:16). In the verse he stated Romans 2:7 it sets up a contrast between those who are changed by God’s grace and live for Him and those who reject His salvation and truth (verse 8), In Romans 2:7, those who “by persisting in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality” are those who have genuinely trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation, by grace through faith. And in James 2:14-26 sometimes taken out of context in an attempt to create a works-based system of righteousness, but that is contrary to many other passages of Scripture. James is not saying that our works make us righteous before God but that real saving faith is demonstrated by good works. Works are not the cause of salvation; works are the evidence of salvation. Faith in Christ always results in good works. The person who claims to be a Christian but lives in willful disobedience to Christ has a false or dead faith and is not saved. It is clear that the Scriptures don't support justification by works but through faith alone in Christ Jesus, works are evidence not the cause of our justification.
Juan S Wow talk about clutching at straws there!
Faith is that which brings the Holy Spirit through the merits of Christ". ... All have sinned and are justified freely, without their own works and merits, by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, in His blood (Romans 3:23-25). This is necessary to believe.
WITHOUT THEIR OWN WORKS OR MERITS
Yeah he ignores the most blatant verse on this topic.
Describe what is necessary to believe?
@Bin Sam Epehsians 2:8,9 By grace are you saved through faith and not of yourselves. It is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
I think paul is talking about works of the law, not Good works
Justification by faith is correct. The fruits of good works are 'indicators' that shows that you are on the right tract, they don't save you.Jesus does.
What is your understanding of the Catholic position on this?
@@patrickoconnor9700 You mentionef the church thst was at Antioch, that ' s not the catholic church. Is it?
@@lawrencechiam7476 Why wouldn't it be the Universal church?
Probsbly a Syrian church.
@@patrickoconnor9700 the Catholic church is the church of Christ
2:59 justification by faith .
Is justification by faith alone?
In relation to Sola Fide, the place of works is found in the second chapter of the Epistle to the Ephesians: Justification is by grace through faith, "not from yourselves" and "not by works". In other words, it is by faith alone since all human efforts are excluded here (Ephesians 2:8-9)
So you need to check what the fine man at the microphone is saying and make sure what he is saying is true or not.
Yes that is what protestants believe in you are saved through faith and through faith you do good acts
@@hottboy6712 Yes, works is not a salvation issue. It is an issue of your Christian life, your walk, your faithfulness and obedience. You are saved unto good works, not by good works.
A man is not saved by FAITH ALONE. Faith with out works is dead.
@@juanyer3646 Since you are chopping up a verse so the you get the roman Catholic version of events maybe you should read the scriptures as it states the truth.
James 1:1 who is James addressing?
James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
What was the work that the Jews had to have ? John 6:28 Jesus tells them exactly . verse 15 shows you that you can not believe in the Messiah and do nothing with that belief. This is not what the roman Catholic church wants you to see. What we do see in scripture is Eph 2: where by grace you are saved not by works . There is a definite statement of Not by works and the grace through faith is there with nothing attached to it.
@@bobloblawb2593 Exactly. Don't think R Cath much read scripture themselves. They seem to only know RCC selected verses to support RCC beliefs totally out of context of all other scripture. Also, they apparently are taught only their leaders are able to correctly interpret scripture, and RCC traditions aka manmade beliefs are of equal "infallible" authority to scripture. They totally reject sola scriptura and even call it unsupportable. Unbelievable!!
Our works are a byproduct of the faith that God has given us. Jesus did all the work that saves us and there is nothing that can be added to it
@Philip Carpenter when you were a child did your parents know things that you didn't? Did ever listen to them because you loved them, respected them and had the understanding that they probably knew better than you? You have a choice to either humble yourself and follow the path that God provides and trust in him or you can go your own way. You can be the one who decides what is good and what is evil. You can live for your own purpose and maybe you can manipulate some gullible people into following you. You can live your life to the fullest and have everything that the world has to offer, because you have placed your faith in the world. Here's the kicker though. You don't get to take it with you when you're dead. Faith in what God offers you carries on even after you die. Faith in the world dies in the world. Either way like it or not you have faith too. It's just a very short sighted faith that will never satisfy or last. Only faith in Jesus is eternal and saves. You have faith in dust. I have faith in the creator of the universe. You wouldn't be on here posting comments like this unless you were feeling empty and thirsting for something more. There is more for you than dust.
@Philip Carpenter You seem to have all of the answers. Maybe you can answer a few questions I have. What is driving you you to come on here and waste your time trying to debate strangers and prove your point? I don't believe that smurfs are real and I don't have any need to prove that. Yet here you are wasting your time and energy trying to prove how gullible I am. Why would you care what I believe? Why would you fight against something that you didn't believe exists? Why don't you waste your time in proving that Santa doesn't exist? Instead you driven to speak out against Christians. I've spoken to plenty of people who are just like yourself. You speak from the same mind because you are driven by the same thing. The holy spirit drives me. Who is your motivation?
@Philip Carpenter well I guess you have it all figured out. Good luck
You’re exactly right man. People think it’s faith+works=salvation when it’s actually faith=salvation+works
@Philip Carpenter My good friend Philip, I'm happy to see you.
Ephesians 2:9
And not by works, lest any man should boast??
Did y’all just skip over that one????
No, we read the Bible by Chapter and not by Verse.
Only prots pretexters read the Bible by verse and use it against caths.
@@FJhei I'm considering joining the Catholic Church but to be honest, there are just as many instances where Catholics pick and choose verses (and avoid other verses) to match their doctrine.
@@boblob2003 how did you say that? Did you already join holy mass and ask priest? Or just finding a hole in the church's teaching?
@@carlmabiog Yes I have as a matter of fact. I'm not here to be critical or insult anyone, I'm just making an observation based on my knowledge of Scripture. A lot of the comments here are not very Christ-like, which is sad.
boblob2003
Keep studying the inconsistencies
Hebrews 11:6 God is a rewarded of those who diligently seek him!
The Church Jesus creates was his followers. Not a building
@Apostolic Nuncio to Kekistan actually the church is not a building we as Christains are the church
@Apostolic Nuncio to Kekistan We are the bride (church) and the groom is Christ
Someone said, "I am not saved because of my works, I am saved because of Christ's finished work."...
Why is it for Christians to be SAVED, Christ commanded us to CARRY/PICK UP (verb = Work/Act/Deed) our CROSS (noun = Trials/Tests) and FOLLOW (verb = Work/Act/Deed) ME/Christ Jesus?" (ref. Matt. 16:24).
Christ Jesus finished "HIS" own WORK (task given by His Father God/YHWH to Redeem us from Sin) which is DEATH on the Cross... Christ said, "If they persecuted ME, they will also persecute you, too." (ref. John 15:20)... in the same way...
Therefore, we must ALSO carry our CROSS and finish our own WORK (task given by Christ for us to love/care) for our neighbors and foes alike...
Christ Jesus said, "Whoever (Christians) ENDURES (verb = hold on/abide) till the END will be SAVED." (Future Perfect Tense = ref. Matt. 24:13)...
On Judgment Day of God/YHWH, we will be judged according to our WORKS/ACTS/DEEDS... and not by FAITH ALONE (ref. Rev. 20:12 & 21 / Matt. 5:15 & 12:36 / Rom. 14:12 / Gal. 5:22 / Psalm 62:12 / Proverbs 24:12 / etc.)...
According to Apostle James, our FAITH in Christ Jesus by God's Grace is made PERFECTLY COMPLETE (Complete Justification) by our WORKS taught by Christ Jesus... Therefore, we can NEVER be saved by FAITH ALONE, unless we are dying in bed like the Thief on the Cross...
FAITH comes first with GOD'S GRACE (Mercy) followed by (Good) WORKS... is the complete Justification to be SAVED...(ref. James 2:22)
"It is by GRACE of God that you have been SAVED through FAITH in Christ Jesus." (ref. Ephesians 2:8-9)... not by FAITH ALONE...
Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.
I would certainly disagree with Tim, though I am certain he would not want to hear me.
James 2 is not talking about how to get saved, but rather what indicates true saving faith has happened. The _result_ of such faith is works. Philippians 2:13 says that God works in us to desire to do God's will, AND to give us the ability to carry it out. Ephesians 2:8-10 makes it clear that Christians are most *certainly* saved by faith in Christ's death on the cross, _alone_ --but that we are created TO good works that God has pre-ordained for us to do.
Romans 3:28 "Romans 3:28 KJV - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."
Romans 5:1 "Romans 5:1 KJV - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:"
'Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren? Good works in God’s grace are required for justification. But there is nothing in the Scriptures about “saving faith.” - James 2:20.
Titus 3:5--"not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit."
“Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly” - the founder your fake religion, and satan said amen
That's your interpretation. James doesn't say any of that. Equally you're isolating St Paul's words, he actually expands on that by saying Romans10 "For it is with your heart [so not mere belief] that you believe and are justified [not saved], and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.", which is clearly a work; and which Jesus mentions "If you deny me.....".
The fundamental problem is the lack of interpretive authority of Luther, Calvin etc when yet Jesus set up an authority in the office of Peter.
It is especially on this matter that we as Orthodox Christians truly stand with our Latin brothers and sisters.
Catholicism isn't orthodox....it's apostasy
Hi, I noticed your comment regarding Orthodoxy. I've never seen a member of an Orthodox before but, may I ask which Orthodox Church do you attend? I'm eager to know about them
@@dieselcowboy777 why would you say that? Just asking
@Domagoj Golubić well they aren't gnostics because the gnostics were said to know the mysteries and no catholic can explain the mysteries and that includes the mystery of the godhead
dieselcowboy777 and who said they can comprehend God? As if God can be reduced to mere concepts
Born Raised Staying and Dying Catholic love my catholic faith
@endtimesareuponus8930what does that even mean?
I am a proud catholic from Philippines.
LGBTQ is supported in your country.
@@peace2033 so?
How many good works do YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED ?
Works is plural, so more than one.
😅hi I'm from Indonesia.
Brother faith comes first it’s obvious but your works is defined by how much faith you have. Eventually the holy spirit thats in you will do the good work that you’re talking about.
And? What's your problem? If you don't have faith then you cant perform good works, right? So indeed you need good works. Do you not understand?
Francis powell
You sound like a Muslim
@@TheRealFrank0 to give you an analogy, if you are sick you cannot do good works. Unless you are healed you cannot do good works like cleaning the house.
Asa Thurstone Thus even faith, if it does not have works, is dead, in and of itself -James 2:17
@Asa Thurstone You added the words "alone" they do not exist in this passage. I kindly ask you to take them out right now.
How about Galatians 2 verse 16: "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."
Correct Mario - they would rather try to twist James 2 out of its own socket to make it fit the apostate RCC....
@@HenriettaMRiley - and what, would you say is the correct meaning of James 2:24? "You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone" Martin Luther hated the book of James and that is because of verses like this one. He said he sometimes felt like burning the book of James. The Justification by faith alone was his own opinion. and so he rejected any part of the bible that disproved it.
Catholics would totally agree with this verse. We are justified (initially entering into salvation) through faith in Christ alone and His cross. Though after we receive such justification through faith we must do good works because without them our faith is dead, and cannot save us if it is dead.
@@travislariscy4466 Absolutely correct.
Faith generates the good works.....but to say that good works grants us the salvation is not correct.
Good works is the 'fruits' of our faith, not the other way around.
Here is what God thinks of when he sees our good works...
Isa 64:6 - a dirty soiled menstrual rag.....sorry not my words but His.
@@HenriettaMRiley Henrietta, thanks for your response but I am not discrediting the Catholic Church and neither should you. We have the New Testament of the Bible thanks to the Catholic Church. The Catholics were spreading the Gospel throughout the world for centuries before Protestants ever existed. Catholics worked endless hours hand-writing the Bible and translating the Bible. Are there corrupt Catholics? Yes. Has the Catholic church gone through periods of corruption? Of course they have. The Catholic Church has been around for 2,000 years and led by imperfect men of flesh and blood. There's also much corruption in the thousands of different Protestant denominations. Why? Because the Protestant churches are also led by imperfect men and women of flesh and blood. The Catholic Church is the church that Jesus founded through the Apostle Peter and is filled with traditions that were practiced by the people that actually knew our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Again, that Bible that you read and that you use as a guide for your faith and knowledge of God, was assembled from many, many religious writings that were considered holy during the early years. The Catholic Church, solely had the task of picking and choosing the books that ended up in your Bible. Martin Luther just removed a few that he didn't like but the ones that remained were still the ones that the Catholic Church picked in the first place. Even though Martin Luther was far removed from Jesus by 1,500 years, he thought he knew better than his predecessors that were chronologically closer to Jesus. I'm not putting down Martin Luther. There was corruption in the Catholic Church during his time and he did what he felt he needed to do.
I'm beyond impressed. As a revert to Catholicism from Pentecostal, this has given me goosebumps. The explanation is so thorough and clear. The Catholic faith indeed is the real deal. Thanks be to God for leading me back home after years of contemplating and researching. Indeed the non-religious or secular books/encyclopedias all point out to Jesus Christ as the founder of the Catholic Church. These same references pinpoint the human founders of different denominations and the so-called non-denominational churches but not the Catholic Church. Which church should we follow then, the one founded by different men or the one founded by Jesus himself?
You have been TOLD BY HOSTORIANS that Christ formed the church.
Now what is the Church?
The church of Christ is the one founded on the word of God.
Christ is the foundation
May the LORD give us understanding
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace///
@J_a_s_o_n your interpretation = 100s of denominations that conflict with each other. You will not come together in one church instead you fracture. You divide Christians.
That is not what Jesus and the apostles taught . they taught Christian unity
Catholic interpretation = one faith. 1.3B and growing. We have spread the good news through the whole world baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, abs the Holy Spirit
Catholicism is demonic.
Not the real deal at all. Why do you worship Mary? You break the very first commandment; NO GODS before me.
Jesus established His Doctrine, Teachings in His Catholic Church in 33AD, then prayed everyone would be part of her, His Bride.
He taught if we don’t remain in His Church, Doctrine, receiving His Sacraments and Teachings, we will not have Him and never enter Heaven.
He rebuked the Pharisees and Scribes for making their own versions of His, like all 44,000 other Christian Churches and other Faiths have done.
Mt 23:1-39, Lk 11:37-54
Remain in His Catholic Church, Doctrine & Gospel-Jn 10:16, 17:20-26, Eph 4:4-6,
2 JN1:9, 2 Thess3:6-16, Rom16:17, Heb 13:9, Gal 1:6-9, 2 Cor 11:3-4, Jn 1:42, 21:15-17, Mt 16:18-19, 10:1-4, Mk3:14-19, Eph 2:19-22, 1 Cor 12:28, Acts 20:28, Lk 22:28-32, 1 Pet 2:6-9, Eph5:22-33, Lk 11:37-54
Sacraments-Jn 3:5, Act 22:16, 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt 18:17-18, Jn 6:51-59, 1 Cor 11:23-29, Eph 1:13, 2Cor 1:21-22, Mt19:4-6, Col 3:17-19, 2Cor5:20, 1:25-29, Lk22:28-32, Jm 5:16, Lk10:34 are a few pertinent verses.
Well said .
Works is a symptom of faith and repentance.
And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.
1 John 2:3-6
yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
Galatians 2:16
You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works;
James 2:22
Can you show me that def of works in scripture?
We are saved by GRACE alone. Thinking of it otherwise is self-righteous. We can't earn our way into heaven. It's mercy granted upon lowly beings who, at their absolute best, are shamefully undeserving.
Amen!!!! Thanks for speaking out Truth!
My deeds are like filthy rags before the Lord, I but my trust in Jesus Christ my savior, amen,
Catholics don’t deny that. A core part of Catholic doctrine is that faith is fundamental to salvation. Works done without faith mean nothing to God. When Catholics say that works are part of salvation, they mean the works done through God’s grace. Works done through Gods grace can only be attributed to God.
@@onewholovesvenison5335 Salvation is by grace through faith. Good works follow as a result of a genuine believer as a born again christian
@@alexmarker881 faith alone is an easy ticket to heaven invented by martin Luther the man
By their fruits you shall know them. Read your bible, pray everyday, & you'll grow, grow, grow. ❤
And the fruits of Catholicism has always been wicked and evil
@@dieselcowboy777 that's a very truthful and profound statement!
Thanks!
@@lydiapetra1211 the only thing it is is incredibly unfactual. Give us an example. (The catholic church gives 110 billion in the us alone per annum for healthcare, since your government and the wacko protties don't seem to care much, the next biggest charitable organization is bill gates' and they do 5bn globally.)
@@stefanknezovic88 Millions tortured and murdered in the dark ages by the RCC.
@@ExperienceEric unfactual. The inquisition was the beginning of detective work, we have numerous historical accounts that those imprisoned by secular rulers would blaspheme intentionally as to be transferred under church authority for they knew they would have fairer treatment. In an age that was more brutal the church paved the way forward for more civil treatment. You are confuzing what countries monarchs did for what the church did (such as the spanish inquisition not under control of the church). The inquisition very rarely dealt with witches, but dealt with heretics, you might have confuzed the RCC for protties and puritanicals there in witch burning terms. In any account, you must be high off of bath salts to claim millions dead since no more than 2% of those that underwent inquisition trials were sentenced to death. Ready to bash protestantism now?
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.
Not by works like the pharisees. By works you will be condemned not by faith alone.
@@MPIO2023 show me where the rosary is in the Bible or calling a priest father..
@@chadlee243 show me in the Bible that the same paragraph nobody should be called Teacher. lol 😆 also Paul called himself a father for many. Read the Bible bro prot.
@@MPIO2023 The reference is Matthew 23:8-10. This was in response to the behavior of the Pharisees, so meaning giving undue spiritual authority to a human being as if that person were the source of truth rather than God, individuals of pride and pretense like the pope.
@@MPIO2023 Not by any works. All your works are as filthy rags. Salvation is by faith only. It is a gift by God's grace, unmerited, unearned.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:8 KJV
That’s precisely what happens in the sacraments of the Catholic Church. The sacraments of the Catholic Church are describing scripture as the faith of Christ. It is in the sacraments of the Catholic Church that we are saved by grace because of the faith we proclaim in the name of Jesus Christ.
@@mdechristi so you earn God's grace?
@@tomh3721 What does this say?
Matthew 19:21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
What do you think? Does that treasure in heaven refer to some form of grace? Now, let's see, what about this?
Luke 11:41But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all things are clean unto you.
We give alms and all things are clean. To what is that a reference, if not to justification by means of works?
Oh and of course:
James 2:24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified....
So, does St. James say that a man earns the grace of justification?
@@mdechristi this ofcourse begs the questions.. What is grace? An unearnt favour of God.. So we see a recurring theme in the scripture that salvation is by grace through faith. The verse from the book of James is interesting because its where it mentions works in relation to salvation, but that wouldn't fit with the recurring theme of faith alone. So what does James mean by this? In can only be that those fruits are a sign of our "living faith" as opposed to "dead faith" by saying you can earn your own salvation is utterly ridiculous. This theme is evident in both old and new testament
Galatians 2:16
"yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."
@@mdechristi Stop over complicating it. Salvation is a free gift from God. End of story.
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness Romans 4:5
It is not you that work, it is God within you, that glorifies His Father. God is holy alone. Christ in you, can begin a work. Hello sheep...Have a nice day.
Love it
@@chrisgagnon5768 I love you.
@Matthew Telle The context is; we are saved, made right with God, by grace through faith, not by our works.
Do you understand what this means? This is pertaining to Jewish law. The law as in circumcision/uncircumcision, things to eat/ things not to eat, things…….ceremonial laws etc.
Matthew 12:3-8 KJ21
But He said unto them, "Have ye not read what David did when he hungered and they that were with him: [4] how he entered into the house of God and ate the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for those who were with him, but only for the priests? [5] Or have ye not read in the law how on the Sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath and are blameless? [6] But I say unto you, that in this place is One greater than the temple. [7] But if ye had known what this meaneth, 'I will have mercy and not sacrifice,' ye would not have condemned the guiltless. [8] For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath day."
Matthew 15:2-11 KJ21
"Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread." [3] But He answered and said unto them, "Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [4] For God commanded, saying, 'Honor thy father and mother,' and, 'He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.' [5] But ye say that whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, 'by whatsoever thou might have profited by me, it is a gift,' [6] and honor not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. [7] Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, [8] 'This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoreth Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. [9] But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.'" [10] And He called the multitude and said unto them, "Hear and understand: [11] Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."
Matthew 15:17-20 KJ21
Do ye not yet understand that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the drain? [18] But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man. [19] For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: [20] these are the things which defile a man. But to eat with unwashed hands defileth not a man."
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PAUL s words
Romans 2:1-10 KJ21
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art who judgest; for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself, for thou that judgest doest the same things. [2] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who commit such things. [3] And thinkest thou this, O man, who judgest those who do such things and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? [4] Or despisest thou the riches of His goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? [5] But because of thy hardness and impenitence of heart, thou treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of Wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, [6] who will render to every man according to his deeds: [7] to those who by patient continuance in welldoing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; [8] but unto those who are contentious, and do not obey the truth but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, [9] tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man who doeth evil, upon the Jew first and also upon the Gentile; [10] but glory, honor and peace to every man who worketh good, to the Jew first and also to the Gentile.
*What does he say about those who worketh good?
*what does he say about those who do not OBEY the truth but OBEY unrightousness???
Romans 2:12-14 KJ21
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law. [13] (For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [14] For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, they, not having the law, are a law unto themselves,
What’s that? The doers of the law will be justified???
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Romans 6:1-16 KJ21
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid! How shall we, who are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [3] Know ye not that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? [4] Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, so we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, [6] knowing this: that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [7] For he that is dead is freed from sin. [8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, [9] knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dieth no more; death no more hath dominion over Him. [10] For in that He died, He died unto sin once; but in that He liveth, He liveth unto God. [11] Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin, but yield yourselves unto God as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you, for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [15] What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid! [16] Know ye not that to whomever ye yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants ye become whom ye obey, whether of sin which leads unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Again OBEDIENCE to CHRIST
Romans 6:21-22 KJ21
What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. [22] But now, being made free from sin and having become servants of God, ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end, everlasting life.
I grew up around protestants. when God met me and starting to transform my life I’ve been to a few churches and encourage people read all 73 books of the Bible. I belong to Christ now and I pray for unity among His church (as He does in John 17).
The Apocrypha was man made and JESUS NEVER TAUGHT IT. It was denied early on then Catholics brought it up. And it contradicts the Bible.
Exactly God bless you
Brother I've come to the same conclusion, I did 5 months of Prayer and Research and even wore Sackcloth and Fasted and was in Prayer, I read all 7 Dueterocannonical Books and I did research into The Early Church and The Reformation.
And all I can say is is that The Reformation Is at a huge fault Tobit, Judith, Sirach, Baruch, Wisdom, 1&2 Maccabees ARE THE WORD OF GOD
Council of Rome, Carthage and Hippo. Every single complete or partially complete Christian Bible up to the 16th century includes the Dueterocannon in one way or another
I'm Non-denominational, but I utterly refuse the title "Protestant" The Reformation itself had Heresy and led to even more Heresy and it divided The Body of Christ it caused alot more harm than it did good.
There’s more than 73 books.
@@ChillingandVibingToLife yeah but there not inspired by God. They have flaws in them and don’t point to Jesus. They are not the breathed our word of God.
I love to hear from people that were once protestant and converted to the catholic faith❤not that people that have always been catholic dont explain the faith well, but as someone that was raised protestant(non denom) and as someone that is learning and enjoying learning about the catholic faith it makes it relatable for me🙏 im finding i align alot with it
@endtimesareuponus8930bold statement cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him
@endtimesareuponus8930
Then you don't know God's Word.
personal experience is not a good argument for any of these comments, only proof is. i believe in scripture because of historical evidence, not because of church authority. is there any actual historical evidence which supports sacred tradition (specific foretelling prophecy come true like in Daniel, Isaiah, Psalm 22 etc.)? bible does not support sacred tradition from what i see.
@@sponge6171
You: bible does not support sacred tradition from what i see.
Me: 2 Thess 2:15: Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold to the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle.
The Bible in your hands could not exist without a table of contents or a canon. That canon which tells us which books are inspired by God was produced by the Tradition of the Catholic Church. Without tradition you have no bible.
@endtimesareuponus8930
OK, you are a John 666 Christian. You left Christ never to return. Go laugh at that one. Or maybe you prefer the one in Matt 10 where Jesus tells the apostles that those who will not listen to them will have it worse than Saddam and Gomorrah at their judgment. Enjoy your laughter while you can.
Ephesians 2 : 8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast.
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Protestants always misinterpret Eph 2:8-9. Firstly, it doesn't say faith alone - it refers to the initial means of obtaining grace, which is thru faith.
Secondly, the words "not by works" refer to works alone - ie, works without faith - not works with faith.
@@AndrewLane-pm2ro firstly, where are you stating this from? Cause it's not the from the bible cause you would've quoted a verse but since you didn't, you have no precedence hence you're wrong and your argument is not maintable.
Secondly, you say that works refer to "works alone". The Bible doesn't say "works alone" it just says "works" and the reason why I bring this up is because its a logical fallacy, you're saying that faith isn't the only way cause the bible doesn't say "faith alone" but then the bible doesn't say "works alone" as well and just says "works". so have contradicted the bible and yourself.
Before you go on about what protestants get wrong, why you don't you read the Bible and see what it says. The Bible speaks for God and everyone who calls themselves a Christian. If the Bible didn't add the word "alone" it doesn't necessarily mean that there are other ways, it's only faith. Because we cannot earn or try and redeem ourselves of God's selfless sacrifice, no amount of "works" can do that. But only God's grace allows us to be saved and safe, how? Through faith. Even the unbeliever does good works the only difference is faith.
@samuelstephen3416 Eph 2:9 doesn't say "works alone"? In effect, it does. What else could the word "works" mean if not "works alone"? That verse says grace doesn't come thru works done without faith. Protestants like to think it says grace doesn't come thru faith and works, or that works have nothing to with obtaining grace, which is not what is says at all.
No one can earn salvation thru works, no one can earn salvation thru faith and no one can earn salvation action thru faith and works. Grace is a gift that is obtained thru justification - by faith and works (James 2:24).
@@AndrewLane-pm2ro it seems as though I've used words above your capability of grasping. Not by works means that works don't save us, what does is faith which give us the grace if God.
@@samuelstephen3416..I used to think like you but I have come to know the truth and the truth is Catholic.
As a devout Roman Catholic, thank you for this channel!!! I appreciate their are some kind, beautiful, personable ppl who can also be an apologist for the Faith
Aaha lost soul
@@infinitx1330 you are mistaken brother
@@tatoon34 please tell me how so I can correct it.
@@infinitx1330 believe on this John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
@@infinitx1330 Bible Gateway Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, "The righteous shall live by faith."”
Romans 1:16-17 ESV
“For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.”
Romans 3:20 ESV
“What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin." Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? For we say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well, and to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.”
Romans 4:1-12 ESV
“And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved- and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.”
Ephesians 2:1-10 ESV
Works are the product of sanctification, not the requirement of Justification.
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who DOES the will of my Father in heaven.
Moses King so, that one verse somehow displaces all I listed? Not really.
These are the words of our savior. You dare to question Christ himself? In Romans, paul refers to works of the law. That Jewish kosher and circumcision laws do not save which is true. This in no way discounts the importance of works as Christ himself notes. Ephesians refers to unbelievers, that without faith works are meaningless. He does not refer to works AFTER faith, which are very important.
Justification is by FAITH and FAITH only. In the able, SANCTIFICATION will result in works, but works have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with justification.
You are questioning the words of our Savior’s most faithful apostle, the one who was not there during the passion and yet believed and preached with the highest fervor.
I'm not questioning Paul's words. I'm interpreting them since you are in error. In Romans he refers to no salvation from works OF THE LAW, meaning jewish law. In Ephesians, he refers to no salvation by works if faith is not present. Here is Paul again for you:
Romans 2:6-7 For [God] will render to every man according to HIS WORKS: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
In Romans 6:16, St. Paul goes on to tell us that after baptism (cf. Romans 6:3-4) obedience to Christ (that means good works!) leads us to justification while sin (that means bad works!) will lead us to death:
Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death (Gr.-eis thanaton, “unto death”), or of obedience, which leads to righteousness (Gr.-eis dikaiosunen-unto justification).
Ephesians 2:8-9 ' For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast'. Salvation is entirely by the death of Jesus, his burial and resurrection, and NOT ONE MORE THING. Works is like filthy rags to God in regards to SALVATION. AFTER we are saved, we are rewarded for our obedience (works) to the commands of God Almighty. James was writing to BELIEVERS who have already been saved by Grace through faith, James is saying that after salvation, the evidence of faith is works. Hebrews 11:1 Now 'faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen'.
Phil 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
That is a description of the Sacraments. It is in the Sacraments that we present ourselves before God, declare our faith in Him and He counts it to us as righteousness. And then, because of our faith, He pours on the grace of the Holy Spirit, washing us our sins.
Do Protestants really not know what the Works of the Law are? I'm going through these comments and I have yet to see a single Protestant actually know what they are
Cannot follow the reformer "ex catholic priest" Martin Luther.....his changing of 1500 yrs of CHURCH teaching AND discarding books from this ORIGINAL holy Bible is UNBIBLICAL! You don't start up a NEW CHURCH because of "sinful men". WAKE UP BROTHERS N SISTERS.... Thank you Jesus for establishing our church of over 2,000 yrs and sending out your apostles! Whoa to those whom follow judas. We have to follow Jesus....God bless you Tim for explaining so clearly....
EXCELLENT! VERY well stated.
No one, absolutely no one ,is asking you to follow some guy who caught the Catholic church with it's fingers in the cookie jar in the 1500's . You are to follow scripture aka God's word , not a man /pope or anyone of less caliber than the Lord Jesus Christ.
You made one mistake as I amCatholic not Protestant. So if you’ve made one serious mistake, how many others have you made.
@@andyecheandia8375 please reference your statement , what mistake?
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 sorry, I thought I was responding to someone else. But now I’ll address you.
MANY Protestants abide by Scripture..........until they don’t
“That’s how the church functioned for 1500 years...”
...except for that one big schism that happened around 1050 AD, but we just don’t talk about that.
Also, referring to history when asked about the *biblical* basis for belief is something I see Catholics refer to a lot to argue against Protestantism. I don’t care for appeals to history or tradition, as those are man-made structures. Slavery was (and in some places still is) the norm for most of human history. Does that make it true, just, or moral?
History and tradition do not define truth. Rather, they reflect man’s belief about truth. That does not prove truth.
@Robert Hirst All Tim is saying is that because of Matt 16:18, everything the Catholic church teaches is synonymous with truth. Not because Jesus said it, but because of the men in a certain organization who came after Jesus said it. This is the Sola Scriptura of Catholicism - -everything they teach as "truth" is based on Matt 16:18.
Even before the schism in 1500 there was many churches and they weren't ruled by Roman catholic church, some things like pope supremacy are doctrines very new
@@joeoleary9010 catholic it's not the same as Roman catholic, it's the same with protestant called Christians there are Christians but they aren't all the Christians. Roman catholics are catholics but they aren't all the catholics
You do realize that the Bible is a part of history, right?
@@matiastolmo8936 nope, the office of the pope goes back to Peter.
The easiest way to refute this is to look at the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. Many men came to that council saying that the Gentiles and Jews alike needed to keep the laws of Moses in order to be saved. Yet, the Jerusalem Council gathered together to discuss this matter and their findings were not only very clear, but the biggest rebuke of Catholic doctrine found in Scripture: “Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” Acts 15:10-11 ESV
Ephesians 2:8-10 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: NOT of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, which God hath before ordained that we *should* walk in them."
@@trompettist James 2:14-26 faith without works does nothing! Your verse says the same thing “God hath ordained that we should walk in them!!
@@LookForTheDay in the sight of men
@@BUDPUD yes in the sight of men and God we can’t just act like that in front of men! The strongest faith ever shown is the faith that is done when no one else is watching!! James says be a doer of the word not a hearer only. We have to cooperate with the Holy Spirit so he can work in us!
@@BUDPUD we Catholics DO NOT believe you can earn your salvation by doing good! It’s by the grace of God through faith that work in love.
Faith without works is a dead faith. Works without faith are meaningless works. It is not a question of either/or, the Catholic Church says it is BOTH/AND.
What about Ephesians 2:8-9?
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
What about Ephesians 2:10? "For we are his workmanship, created unto Christ Jesus into good works...."
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh the order of events are very important in Ephesians 2:10, "created in Christ Jesus for good works." When we are in Chrst, this results in good works. Having good works does not result in being in Christ. I posted a more detailed comment if you want more details on this. Protestant affirm that faith must be coupled with obedience if it is true faith, but this follows salvation, it does not lead to salvation.
Romans 3:11 Not one of us is worthy to be saved.
Only so pure a lamb can save the sins of the many. If works can save, then why was Jesus slain? You are equating Jesus' sacrifice to the cross with your "sowing"? Who are you anyway? 😂 You? Us? No matter how hard we try, no amount of work can match the mercy and grace of God.
We work because we were given grace and not because it is what will save us.
Who are you anyway? 😂
A speck of dust in the universe but your works can save you or add to your salvation and add to what Christ did? You are making His sacrifice imperfect? Wow.
@kim burley I agree that one must be born again and then good works will follow, that is exactly what I tried to explain in my comment, that obedience to God's word is something that comes after salvation (regeneration, i.e. being born again) and that only happens through the Spirit of God. I understand the roman catholic view on this and fully disagree with them. The bible says we will be judged according to our works, but to say you are saved by your works is missing it completely, so amen to your comment, I agree!
@Crusader of the Holy Grail 1. I fully agree with the "alone " not being in scripture at this verse. You may notice though that BY GRACE is mentioned twice for emphasis .
2. Either way, law or works, has to be taken as something not related to the gift as neither support a free gift.
3.I disagree that salvation is not a one time event.
Roman 11:28 Regarding the gospel, they are enemies on your account; but regarding election, they are loved on account of the patriarchs. 29 For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who formerly disobeyed God have now received mercy through their disobedience,…
Salvation is by gift of God and it is a one time event but works of righteousness is ongoing .1 Cor 6:11 is all past tense and leads one to have confidence that regardless of how imperfect we are we are still in Christ.
You got it half right. Salvation (Justification) is by Grace through Faith alone but it’s ALWAYS proven by Life of Holiness(Sanctification) and Good works (Basis Of Glorification) Ephesians 2:8-10 ,James 2:14-26
Good comment, thanks
I like the distinction there, thanks.
Another one I heard that seems important is the difference in the use of 'justified' by Paul and James.
Paul notes we're justified (before God) by faith - Romans 5:1
James notes we're justified (before men) by works - James 2:24
James was digging into the practicalities and how we can know true faith when we see it. As he says,
in James 2:14 - what *use* is it if someone says they have faith but no works.
in James 2:18 - and I will *show* you my faith by my works
Works of Love, 1 Cor 13
just brilliant summary i feel many use a highly redacted bible many scriptures are blacked out not to be viewed since it proves the above points marcus grodi has a great video of scriptures "he never saw" as a Protestant. i suggest others listen to his summary as well "ten versus i never saw". the bread of life discourse--it was so radical people left Him, then at the last supper Jesus says "THIS IS MY BODY" referring to the bread, its directly related, i'm sure the apostles were as stunned by Jesus radical "eat my flesh" but trusted, later at His time fully explains and and defines the issue. I'm so blessed to be Catholic it has never failed me, also people need to read, listen etc to the catechism gives all references. also "tradition" was not a fancy handshake but word of mouth and teachings for hundreds of years, 95% of people at that time were illiterate, word, teachings etc was what they diligently passed on. funny how people will understand and accept "hand of the king" in games of throne, but not giving peter the keys of the kingdom.
Excellent witness for Catholicism.
Catholicism is based on a three legged stool of Sacred Tradition, which existed from the time of Jesus, Sacred Scripture which was codified in 382 but not mass printed until the 16th century, complements Scripture as not everything is in the bible Jn 20:24 under the unifying authoritative interpretation of the Magisterium giving us stability & objective, which Protestantism lacks, given its one legged stool based on flawed & unbiblical sola Scriptura
"whosoever believeth in Him shall be saved" "For by grace are ye saved through faith--not of works--it is the gift of God--lest any man should boast"
Pretty straightforward. 👍
@@silversurfer2703 James 2 24 not by faith alone
That verse doesn't say faith alone
@@andreeattieh2963 This is a common (and very flawed) Catholic argument. As far as Catholics are concerned, unless a verse specifically says "alone"--anything the Church would like to add--can be added. The verse says "by faith are ye saved". "Alone" is implicit in that statement since nothing else is added. But then the verse goes further to EXCLUDE works-lest any many should boast. Your argument is null.
@@peteanddrake4242 James 2 24 says not by faith alone
It is amazing how many passages he rips out of the correct flow of thought to come up with his doctrine. If we can gain salvation by our works then, according to Paul, Christ died for nothing! Gal 2.
@William Cloud The Catholic has admitted to be one in the body of the universal Church of satan over and over again.
perhaps you can define exactly what you mean ? The catholic believes what the church says and they are told that they can not interpret the scriptures for themselves .
The Catholic has admitted to be one in the body of the universal Church. They believe that the church is Catholic by name and by function , they do not believe they are part of satans church nor do I.
Lets make a distinction between the common catholic in the church and the hierarchy of the church that calls itself the church and makes the rules. They are two entirely different entities.
As a believer will you accept every word that comes out of the mouth of Benny Hinn? Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen , or will you go to the word for your beliefs ? What if you are told to listen to these three and not to interpret the scriptures on your own ? What will the result be?
@William Cloud liar
@Matthew Telle the Catholic church is the church of God
@Christopher Cowan Lol. No one is ripping anything out. No one says we gain salvation through our works. That is heresy of pelagianism condemed by the Catholic Church. We can be saved only by Jesus' sacrifice. We reach sanctity and are justified through Faith and good works done in the State of Grace, which would not be possible without Jesus and His Passion. Faith and works done in Grace only bring justification because God makes it possible and gives us His Grace. But just beliving without working in Grace cannot bring us to be justified. Jesus said that to be His friends we must do what God commands.
@@TheGeneralGrievous19 Hey General, good afternoon. I am not sure if you realize it, but your entire view here is a blatant contradiction. Salvation and justification are the same thing. The only way to be saved is to be justified before God. How does this come about? Romans 3:28, Romans 4:1-5, Galatians 3:10-11
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast
I read just today in romans where paul was talking about how Abraham was counted as righteous when he believed God. We live by faith alone which produces good works.
If someone believe in God/Jesus, it means he knows who God is, what God can do, knows what he did (sins), knows what God want him to do and apply His will. He should understand that all the things God do are good and irreproachable. Then he would believe.
The Reformers taught that, we are justified by faith alone, BUT NOT BY A FAITH THAT IS ALONE. Works do not justify, but they are VERY IMPORTANT, as per St. James.
You said works don’t justify but James 2:24 clearly says it does “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” ESV
CloutLevels2High James is referring to those who SAID they had faith, but never displayed that faith with good works. He uses Abraham as an illustration, that he believed God, and demonstrated that, by putting Isaac on the altar; he was justified in that sense by his works. In other words, don’t tell me you have faith; show me by your works that you have faith. Hope that helps, friend.
@@kellykempkilroy You seem to be contradicting yourself a bit. James mentions both works and faith, and that works are necessary for justification. Why would James mention works separately if he is just using works as an extension of showing faith? He appears to be saying that you need WORKS and FAITH not just works that display your faith. Doing works simply to display you are faithful actually seems quite vain and prideful.
Although we can also just point to the lack of interpretive authority of the reformers where Jesus set up that authority in the office of Peter through which the Catholic Church derives its beliefs.
CloutLevels2High James says that faith without works is “dead”. And it says nothing about salvation here. Nothing about faith alone In fact, he is saying that if you have faith (which saves you), but don’t show its fruits, then there is no life in that faith. The most important scripture about keeping “grace” (a free gift of salvation) from “works” (that will not save you) is Romans 11:6. All of Romans ch 4 explains faith being counted as Abraham’s righteousness and not works of the law.
@@kellykempkilroy
Protestant counter: “James really just means faith evidenced by works. So, one must have a genuine faith to be saved. After all he says ‘show me your faith apart from your woks and I by my works will show you my faith’ which is his real point!”
The obvious problem with this is it bastardizes the very analogy I just made, turning it into one cannot survive without a dead spirit and needs a “lively” spirit. Because a genuine faith vs dead faith cannot allow for a distinction of the body and spirit. Next, further on the point, it also ought to be obvious that any other use of “Show me” doesn’t establish the opposing view in the very equation. James says in verse 18, “But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works. Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith.” This does not mean that works are simply evidence of justifying faith. The apostle is telling us that if you do not have works you are not justified. It should be obvious if you can compare and understand analogies in a linear fashion: “but some may say, you have a marriage and I have a relationship. Show me your marriage apart from the relationship, and I by my relationship will show you my marriage.” Through this basic turn of the phrase, it is obvious to see in the case of faith what James is really trying to illustrate to his audience; one does not have saving faith without works any more than you have a marriage without a relationship.
The linkage between faith and works cannot be broken. Faith and works are inextricably intertwined and cannot be separated. That is why James uses the powerful analogy of the body and spirit in verse 26 where he says, “For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.” Think about this profound statement. Faith is compared with the body and works are compared to the spirit. The body and spirit together make up a living human being. You cannot have a living human being without both together. Likewise, you cannot have a justifying faith without works, and James tells us that faith without works is dead and that it cannot save you. This cannot mean that works are simply the demonstration of saving faith. God knows all things and he does not need a demonstration by works to know if a man has faith. God requires that a man have both faith and works to be justified, and this is precisely why James hammers on this point in his Epistle.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Eph. 2:8-9 NKJV
Not sure how it gets more explicit than that.
Watch the video
@@FlatlandBreeze I did.
@Jacob Posego “Justification by faith alone” includes works, because faith is nothing without works.
@Jacob Posego I fully agree that you need works as well as faith. What I’m saying is that works is part of faith, and justification by faith alone includes works, as faith without works is dead. And no, that Ephesians verse is talking about final salvation, if you look at the verses prior.
That verse doesn't say anything about faith alone
Read Galatians, it deals with the very fact that we are saved by grace through faith and not by self righteously keeping the demands of the Law.
“Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
Romans 3:19-20
Ephesians 2:8-10
We are saved for good works, but not saved by good works.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that is not of yourselves; it is the GIFT of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
Dom Wright - work is the proof of your faith. Prove to me any faith or non-faith group that help more sick or/poor people in the last 2000 years than the Catholic Church.
@@c00lsky2le6 Helping the sick and poor is awesome, that's exactly what Jesus commanded. The problem here is not the works (in and of themselves) but rather with the danger of believing that we are justified by those works. The issue at hand is Justification (being forgiven and declared righteous, being made right with God). "Therefore, having been JUSTIFIED by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Romans 5:1.
Works are the fruit of our salvation, not the root. Our faith in Jesus Christ is the root of our salvation. Real faith rooted in Christ naturally produces works. We will be rewarded by our works but our salvation is not predicated on them. By adding Grace plus Merit, Faith plus works, To the Glory of God and Mary and other Saints, Scripture plus tradition, Christ plus other mediators - we make light of Jesus' sacrifice. We're saying that your death and resurrection wasn't sufficient enough. Let me add to what you've done and then my salvation will be complete. That's not what the Bible teaches.
The Bible is proof that we will never be able to do enough to save ourselves. "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;" Romans 3:10, "But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags." Isaiah 64:6, Romans 3:23. Doing "good" works will never and has never been enough. That's why we needed a Savior. We didn't need Jesus to give us a boost or a hand in salvation, we needed Jesus to carry us all the way.
In the Bible we see that the priest failed, the kings failed, the judges failed, the prophets failed, the disciples failed BUT Jesus never did. We never could or never will be able to help enough sick/poor people to earn our way to Jesus. Salvation is a gift not a reward. "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be SAVED."Romans 10:9
Well said Dom...
Great stuff!!
Godly Works is the result of salvation. Not the condition to Salvation
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9
Christian,
What doctrine do you wish to prove with this?
@@nosuchthing8 if you're referring to James's letter I can help
Thank you!
Ephesians 2:8 and Romans 5:1 has left the chat..
Stick to Ephesians 2 and Roman's 5 so that they can join the chat..
Ephesians 2:9.. not by works!?
@@adamjones6473 prots always pretexting.
LOL.
@@adamjones6473 not by works no, but by faith
@@FJhei just wanting to spread biblical truth without taking verses out of context 👍
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9
Lots of evangelicals and protestants do not agree with abortion.
Annette Murphy -- If they agree with abortion you can tell they are not Evangelicals, Protestants. I’m Evangeical Protestant and I can guarantee you100% We do not support abortion. Nancy Pelosi says she’s Catholic, but she supports abortion.That is why I thought Catholics supported abortion. See how one powerful person like N. Pelosi makes Catholics look bad. If it wasn’t for this video I would have continue to believe that Catholics approve of abortions.
One thing I don’t agree with is that Catholics and Evangelicals attack one another. Why what’s the point, after all God is the only one judge of all. We should not be arguing over religion or try to show off that one is wiser than another.
I agree...I dont know of any evangelicals at all that agree with abortion ! I've been around allot of conservatives and I just doubt see it
Advant Garde -- AGREED100%
I think Catholics and Fundamentalist Protestants agree on the evil of abortion.
"For we maintain that man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law". Roman's 3:28
We are saved for good works, not through good works. If we are saved through/by good works, then there was no reason for Jesus to come and sacrifice himself. In fact, we who are gentiles (I'm assuming most if not all people watching this video and reading this comment are what the Bible refers to as gentiles) never stood much of a chance to follow the law cause it was given to the nation of Israel. We were grafted in later through faith in Jesus, not by following the Jewish Law.
Just because the Catholic church taught this for a thousand years before Luther came around dont mean they're right. People used to think the sun orbited around the earth for thousands of years until Galileo. Ironically he was persecuted too.
Yes...but the church is Christ’s bride. Would you let your bride/wife be wrong for 1500 years? Also, why did God let 7 extra books be included in the Bible for 1500 years only to be removed by a random priest with deep psychological issues? Why would God allow this?
@@mikes.8120 because God used Luther to bring people out of deception.
@@mikes.8120
When Jesus returns for His.bride, He will not be returning for any one particular denomination. He will be returning for all those who have been redeemed from the power of sin, born from above, and sealed with Holy Spirit.
"But you (those who truly belong to Him) are a CHOSEN RACE, a royal PRIESTHOOD, a HOLY NATION, a PEOPLE FOR GOD'S OWN POSSESSION..." 1 Peter 2:9.
Also, studying the parable of the wheat and the tares will give a better understanding as to why Jesus will not be returning for a particular church denomination or earthly country.
Quoting what you said, "We are saved FOR good works and not BY good works. For if we are saved by or through good works, then Jesus died in vain." (please excuse my paraphrasing). You hit the target!
"If righteousness comes through the works of the law, Christ died needlessly." Gal. 2:21.
Saint Thomas God certainly allowed the congregation of OT Israel to indulge in things contrary to the Law, so history repeats itself.
As a Catholic convert who is raised Muslim. I never saw any value in Protestantism. It is too close to the Muslim ideology in the sense it is man made. It is too indulgent into the will and desire of Man. Catholic teaching is divine. Mass is divine. The rules are sometimes hard but there is authority and historical grounding. The early church etc. Protestantism is ever changing. It is easy to fall in to this trap. Mass is the central theme of Christianity.
Wouldn't Orthodoxy answer this argument better?
3:05 Ephesians Chapter 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Justification by faith saved for good works God prepared for us. Seems disingenuous that he would ignore that. There are a lot of wholes in what he said and doesn’t addresses the callers concern instead points and says no, you’re not Biblical unless his view is that whatever the pope says goes. Most telling for me is he correctly stated that it was through counsel the church ruled on a matter. The pope ruling alone is what lead to the great schism.
Not trying to be antagonistic but honest with my observations and concerns. Got into a wonderful discussion on the matter and trying to learn, searching for answers but finding more questions.
We need this type of messages widely spread out, not to mock or insult our brotehrs in Christ who are non Catholics, but to open their ayes so they can verify these things by themselves !!! PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THESE VIDEOS MASSIVELY AVAILABLE and with new updates !!!
My eyes are open. Youre eyes are closed. There is so much false doctrine in the catholic church, starting with praying to saints, to confessing youre sins to a priest and to the pope himself.
@@elias58855 The Bible says that the “Word of the Lord” is “spoken” (Jer 25:3), not just written. St. Paul urged us to “hold to traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thes 2:15). The Bible also tells of a Council’s authority, where Peter settled a doctrinal dispute and declared what “we believe” (Acts 15). In fact there was NO bible for almost 400 years and then after only priests and nobility owned one. Why? because there was no printing press until 1560. So who dispensed the word of the Lord? The catholic church.
So if you claim a Catholics eyes are closed then so are yours friend.
@@AbsconditusTechnologies Number one there is no proof that the roman catholic church is the christian catholic church wich is spoken of in the niecene creed or the original true church. Number two lets say the roman catholic church is the true church, the tradition of the rcc contradicts the bible and if a religion contradicts itself then you can say it is clearly false. Why dont you think about that for a few minutes.
@eliasmuller5885 Lutheranism rejects the authority of the Pope and instead emphasizes the primacy of individual interpretation of Scripture. It places a stronger emphasis on the concept of salvation by faith alone. This directly contradicts the bible as seen in James 2:24 ("You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.") as opposed to Catholicism's belief in the importance of both faith and good works for salvation.
Thus yet again disproven.
I will not waste any further time in discord with you.
Have a good day sir or madam and I will pray on your behalf.
@@AbsconditusTechnologies Ok, salvation is by faith alone, but it is also said that faith without works is dead. And there is no biblical or historic proof of the popes authority.
Luke 23:39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!”
40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”
42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[d]”
43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Saved by faith alone. He wasn't baptised, never took communion and didn't do any good works after his declaration of belief in the Messiah.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
Acts 16:31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
Acts 10:43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
undeniable
Case closed
Yes, faith is key, us Catholics believe that. But if you have faith and you continue to sin, you continue to offend God, you continue to be attached with the worldy things, do you truly believe and love Him? Cuz that's what I observed on most protestants, they think they can do whatever they want after professing that Jesus is their Lord and personal Savior. Remember, no filth can enter heaven. Those sinners whom Jesus saved in His time were cleansed by Him personally, afterwards they continued to live a Holy life. Same with the thief on the cross who believed Jesus, if he's given the chance to escape from the cross, I'm sure he'll change his ways and live a holy life, not to sin and follow Jesus heartily. So That's the point, have faith and change your ways, do not sin any longer, deny yourselves and follow Him
@@ite_ad_iosep That's exactly what I'm think. I don't think "Works" necessarily means charity but rather I think it's about 'Practicing what you preach.' Like as you said; you can't just claim Jesus as your lord and savior and still continue to live a sinful life.
"Saved by faith alone," you say. "He wasn't baptized, never took communion, and didn't do any good works," you claim. How do you know any of that?
Ephesians 2:8-9 - 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Faith is made perfect through works..James 2:22: Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?
Faith without works is dead: James 2:17: Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
@@firstman692002 Works is a product OF salvation, not the cause of it.
@@firstman692002 James is not addressing how to be saved.
@@joycegreer9391 No he's addressing faith..faith is required for salvation is it not?
@@firstman692002 I said James was not addressing how to be saved. His epistle was not about salvation.
1. Our, absolute, GREATEST works are as filthy rags before the LORD (Isaiah 64 : 6). We receive salvation and are justified through Christ, alone.
2. Yes. True faith is accompanied by some form of "works." To be an apple tree one must produce, at least, one apple or it's lying. However, we can never deserve anything but eternal damnation aside from what God accomplished in Jesus Christ. FULLY trusting in Him, ALONE, is true faith in the Gospel; Which IS Salvation. No matter what we do, no one is worthy on their own (Ephesians 2 : 8 - 9). What our thanksgiving inspired works earns us are 1 or more of the "5 Crowns" of Heaven described in Scriptures. And even these should all, humbly, be placed at His feet anyway. There are too many verses to list the crowns here, but look them up on your own.
3. God has always forbidden His people from partaking in the pagan, demon-inspired practices / symbolisms of other peoples. We do NOT incorporate these things into our practices just to make things more palatable for pagans in order to lure them into the congregation. Scriptures say that God's elect are a "peculiar" people who are "strangers" and "pilgrims" in this world. The mitre hats, pinecone statues, burning incense, etc... I could go on for hours. How dare we present filth before the LORD?! Would a man's wife want a ring that was designed to the liking of her husband's mistress?.. Even IF he cleaned it up and wanted to present it to his wife. No! She would scoff at the very notion.
4. One of the 10 Commandments forbids making and honoring graven images of anything in heaven, on Earth, or beneath the waters... Lest we, ignorantly, honor things made by human hands out of wood, stone, and metal instead of He who made these materials themselves.
5. There is only ONE "Holy Father" and He is above all things! Amen... "Potentate" is used ONCE in the entire Holy Bible... 1 Timothy 6 : 15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and ONLY Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords"
6. As virtuous as Mary was there is no intercession thru anyone other than Christ. If ANYONE could live their entire life without sin, the LORD Himself wouldn't have needed to come and be the final propitiation for mankind (Isaiah 53 : 6). Even the veil of the old temple was rent in two. God has now given us direct access to Him in the Holy Ghost that guides and lives in us. We the believers are the "church." The following Scripture references ancient pagan goddess worship (Asherah among many other names) ; Which still goes on till this day... Jeremiah 7 : 18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."
7. The true "Church" belongs to Jesus Christ. There is no one good or Holy but Him. There is no person or group of people that can tell another that they are not a part of His church (Excommunicated, Disfellowshiped, etc...). I'm not speaking of those with a "reprobate mind" who would, obviously, NOT be seeking God, holy fellowship, and deliverance from a sinful spiritual stronghold anyway. We were purchased with the price of His blood, and wholly belong to Him... Romans 8 : 38 - 39 "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
John 10 : 28... "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
There are other doctrinal issue that I could address, but this is enough for now. May the Holy Ghost lead us into all truth and righteousness, in Jesus' name. Amen.
Amen and Amen
Lying is a sin.
@@isrberlinerin4063 And you go agreeing with Protestant lies.
@@georgepierson4920 And you self-righteous catholic are in bondage to a diabolical Roman Mother Mary Cult and you would not recognize The Truth even if it would bite you in your nose . The Jewish Jesus Christ Savior and Lord (not the Roman manufactured one) said : I am The Truth , The Way , The Life and No One comes to the Father but by Me .
The Roman Catholic Religion is Satans Masterpiece and he is lying to you every day and since you have no spiritual discernment you believe his lies . You of all people call others liars , how pathetic . I suggest that you take the big log you have in your eyes out , so you may see more clearly .
@@georgepierson4920 Let those that are without SIN throw the first stone ..... You pious catholics never lie , you only believe in Satan's big religious lie and you regurgitate that lie every day and then have the nerve to call others liars . You need to get a grip on The Biblical Truth !
Just what works did the thief on the cross do. He was saved by his faith.
Now read James 2:14 where the man has faith but no works. The question is “can this man’s faith save him”? The answer biblically is NO
@@charis128 Stop... I see this so often.... Even protestants do this, and they're doing this with the rapture. Here's another thing that you are butchering with this passage..... READ THE CONTEXT.
THREE verses later, he explains what he means by " In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
"You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[b] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone."
Abraham was doing GOD'S will. If we do God's will, we will get greater "rewards"... that's the idea, not according to what man defines as good or bad. The Bible says what is good and what is bad, but it doesn't command us to do the good, it just tells us not to do the bad and to have faith. Otherwise, it would just being giving us half instructions. Your interpretation to the road to salvation: do deeds... uhh ok what deeds?
If we say "I believe in God" but turn around and DECIDE to sin, the salvation is voided. Contrarily, if we say "I believe in God" and preach the gospel as so, you are putting into action what you preach, and doing God's will. But even so, REFRAINING from sin is the same as a "deed" in this context, because he's referring to practicing what you believe. If you say you have faith, then you must follow up that statement with your actions by not sinning because the God you believe in says not to. If you sin willingly, either 1. You doubt his existence 2. You are okay with sin 3. You are just taking advantage of his grace etc... BUT EVEN THEN, HE STILL FORGIVES YOU... but you HAVE TO REPENT and not do it again by figuratively cutting off the hand that causes you to sin.
James is saying to keep your word and not be a hypocrite. The demons believe in God... but their deeds are nefarious. James' definition of a deed is an action or the lack of action. So your salvation is based off of faith (John 3:16) and actions or inaction, depending on if they go against God's law.
Question 1: How many good deeds must you complete to attain salvation? 1? 7?
Question 2: If there is a paraplegic man born blind and dumb who literally cannot do anything but believe in God. Is he condemned because he cannot do any "works"? Or is he saved because God has MERCY and GRACE?
Catholicism's God is different from what the Bible preaches plain and simple. It's not a religion issue, it's man not having a relationship with God. You need to repent and pray directly to God and read your bible.
Stop taking scripture and ignoring the context in order to fulfill your doctrine based off of poor interpretation and comprehension.
@@antrodaze910i think many protestants misunderstood whats the difference between salvation and justification. Salvation can be possible for us only by the Grace of our Father. All christians believe it included catholic. We are all saved by the Grace. BUT, to be saved you need to be justified first. Catholic teaches that justification isnt a single proses but an on going-until-death process. In that process, we are DAILY justified by our FAITH which is CONFESSED and SHOWN through our deed. We have to work on our salvation (Phil 2:12-13, James 2:14-16). So your question on how many good deeds to be justified? The answer isnt a quantity matter but the quality matter. You "do" good as long as you have faith because only by that you have faith! How about the blind? Do you even say that blind people cant do good? I dont know how's that question even logical.
By the end of time, in the judgement day, we are all JUDGED according to our DEEDS (Rev 20:12). Then now, how come u say our deed isnt important? If it only takes "faith" why wouldt scripture says that at the judgement all who "believe" in jesus will directly go to heaven? Why jesus even say not those who call upon Me, Lord, lord but those who DO the will of My Father? 😉
How were Noah and his children saved? They not only had faith in the ark, but they actually entered it, kept provisions and persevered to sit in it.
BT Noah and his children were saved by baptism (water + spirit). 1 Peter 3:21
The time a protestant says the Catholic Church is unbiblical and later on lectured by a well-versed former protestant that Protestantism is in fact the one that is unbiblical in a very respectful manner.
The church of rome puts its authority OVER God's Word, how can that be correct ? As anyone that looks at any Roman Catholic church it's full off idolatry, lies , superstition and Hersey. It's mostly man made, there are no popes, nuns, prayer beads , prayers for the dead, worship of Mary or any dead people inSide Word. God had to step in with the Reformation and bring the church into line with His Word. If you can't see this your on the broad road to he'll. Read God's Word for the Truth and I hope you find it
@@WhataboutTRUTH I’ll have to disagree. Was once Protestant but am no longer. So one thing. The Catholic Church CREATED (sorry if I’m being rude) the Bible and Martin Luther removed from it. Anyone who removes or adds to the word of God does not have his name in the book of life. Not only that we don’t worship Mary. As a former Protestant I used to think they did but now I know we don’t worship Mary or the Saints in fact. Also why wouldn’t you pray for the dead not praying too them but for them. If someone passed away, wouldn’t you pray for their soul?
@@lemonade71440 Mostly true. Only thing is that the Catholic Church put the Bible together, they didn’t create/write it.
@@WhataboutTRUTH This doesn’t make any since. You saying that the church doesn’t have all these thing when it does?
@@ManMan-fv2ko right my bad
EPHESIANS 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
@@mole215 You are ignoring Paul. The book of James is to the 12 tribes scattered abroad (James 1:1). Paul is the Apostles to the gentiles and his episltes are to the gentiles. We do good works BECAUSE we are saved, not to "earn" our salvation. James NEVER says works earn your salvation. Paul says the NEVER can.
matt 18: the church is the whole assembly. he didn't say tell it to the religious rulers.
(church, ecclesia, assembly)
the whole assembly, as in 1 cor 5., remove them, wake up, a little leaven leavens the whole lump, unless they repent openly. no secrets, expose them publicly. one mind. 1 tim. 5:20
You've convinced me Tim, I was veering towards the catholic church but now Im 100% away from protestantism.
praise the Lord, He has brought me near to the church and I’ve felt so enlightened!!!! God bless you!
Are you sure that catholicism will save your soul?
Nothing about Catholicism is Biblical
@@chadlee243 you should read the church fathers. If you do you'll find what John Henry newman said was true and that is "To be steeped in church history is to no longer be protestant"
@@chadlee243 Sola Scriptura is unbiblical.
"Why Protestant Doctrine Is Unbiblical" ....as discussed by Catholic Answers?
Maybe someone at Catholic Answers could point out where in the bible it mentions purgatory or limbo.
Or where in the Bible it says a priest is required as an intermediary who a sinnner must confess their sins to before god or Jesus can forgive them.
The followers of satan will never answer you on that
I'm a Catholic guy. I'm not qualified to answer your questions but if you really want to know the answers I'm pretty sure there are other videos explaining the questions you're looking for. Another good channel you can check out is Ascension Presents. Either way, do some research and you'll find an answer. Hope I could help :)
@@nonconformist4802 If you think Catholics like me worship Satan, you don't know what Catholicism is. We don't worship the saints or Mary, we recognize them as saved people and ask for their intercession (their prayers); we institute the Eucharist at Mass because Jesus told us to (John 6:54 literally says "Whoever eats my body and drinks my blood has eternal life"); and as the earliest members of the now Catholic Church were the first followers of Jesus, we are the original church Jesus initiated and gave authority to (Simon to Peter, "on this rock I shall build my church," etc.) The reason I say all this is that these arguments are what Protestants bring up so often in religious debates. I wanted to get them out of the way bc I'm assuming you're a Protestant and it seems like these may answer some of your questions.
@@andybiehl8364
_We don't worship the saints or Mary, we_ _recognize them as saved people and_ _ask for their intercession_
Sounds so Biblical and holy and you call yourself again WHAT???
Go sell your rubbish talk to them that really don't know who you are, not to them you assumed know nothing
nice pivot. btw when are you going to respond to his arguments? lol
Everyone gets sooo hung up on salvation. But keep reading and you shall see It’s about LORDSHIP! It’s not a cheap Grace to see what we can GET but we are to be servants and serve him and be like Christ. He wants our entire being as we are to be followers of Him! He wants our obedience. “In that day many will say Lord Lord but didn’t I cast out demons in your name!?” “ Get away from me I never knew you!”
Galatians 2:16
“know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.”
It’s very hard to twist this. Clearly says that one is not saved by works by faith in Christ.
Catholics will agree with this 100% and at the same time will never forget James 2:24 (See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.)
@@srich7503 Right. I haven’t forgotten about that. As faith is considered dead without deeds.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” -Ephesians 2:8-9
I have never in my life seen someone twist scripture like these men. Salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ alone.
And you're right, the initial gift of salvation is given by grace through faith and not by work. Many Protestants don't know but the Church teach that, that we can do absolutely nothing to merit the grace that comes to us in baptism ( And it is also important to note that this church is *the perfect example* of this teaching because the Church baptizes babies and babies cannot do good works, what kind of works could a newborn baby have done to merit anything ? I think the question is quickly answered ). As the Council of Trent said in the decree on justification, Chapter 8 "We are therefore said to be justified gratuitously, because none of those things that precede justification, whether faith or *works,* merit the grace of justification. For 'if by grace, it is *not* now by works, otherwise, as the Apostle says, *grace is no more grace.'" (Romans 11:6)*
And the Catechism of the Catholic church ( paragraph 2010 ) says
"Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, *no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification,* at the beginning of conversion."
@@lonelyberg1808 you obviously haven't read the Council of Trent brother
@Zachary Harvey
Was it Luther who told you that?
@@lonelyberg1808 would like to challenge you on the baptism of babies.
One thing is the action of men believing what can save. But christ have those babies in mind. As you know everyone is accountable for there own salvation.
If the babies die at birth don't you think God knows they would die? How can they lose salvation if they can even feed themselves?
The work of men would be in vain by baptizing a baby. There action has no support biblically. There many reasons why I say this. And theres biblical reasons why I say there's any biblical reasons why men should do it such as action like that.
I mean we both can read the bible.
So, I ask that you give me the biblical support about this. And me as a protestant I'll show you the reasons why we protestants don't do it with all the bible support that there is.
All I want to do is swap versions and see what really more accurate and understanding.
I would will do my best effort to understand any point you bring. Will also give credit in anything I can find obvious or logical.
So please. Your response will be really well appreciate it.
But would also like for you to understand our points as Protestants to the things we see biblically and why we don't baptize babies.
I want is for us to come together in accuracy based in how we do things upon the Bible.
Jesus be with you.
@@wilsongoins1646 the council of trent is not biblical at all its man made justification to push a man made doctrine over the Bible
There is one Spirit , one Lord. And so it is written. The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. God is Spirit. God bless.
I’m confused as to how justification by faith alone is unbiblical. James 2:24 is a verse in the context of outward justification of inward justifying faith in God. Verse 18 says, “Show me your faith without works, and I will show you faith by my works.” You can’t show someone your faith is true except by your works, just like Abraham was shown to be genuine in his faith because he was willing to give up his son for it. That is very different than Paul in Romans for example, who builds an argument entirely based on justification by faith alone, as it is written, “Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By one of works? No, on the contrary, by a law of faith. For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.” Romans 3:27-28. This is God’s justification for us to enter Heaven by His grace, not a justification of the reality of our faith. Romans 3:26 says God is the one justifying us who have faith. Justification in the sight of God by faith alone is entirely biblical, in fact Paul goes out on a limb numerous times to help us understand that we are saved by grace through faith, to the praise and glory of God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen!
"’m confused as to how justification by faith alone is unbiblical."
Does the bible state one is justified by faith alone? One must understand what the word FAITH means. It is NOT just the initial intellectual ascent of faith. We must be faithful to all of what Christ commanded, including love of God and neighbor. That is why James 2 - God's Word - says that Abraham's faith was made complete by WORKS (of love, not the OT law).
_22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works_
And can an incomplete faith save you ? God says no.
_14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him?_
So we come to that intellectual ascent of faith - and walk in love of God in neighbor. And in doing so we are justified again, as was Abraham (again) ....
_Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar?_
This is why God says in James, we are justified by Works (of love, not the OT Law), not faith alone.
_ 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone._
Nothing out of context. God is clear in his Word.
mcoy hey it was by his work in you.❤️
No one taught faith alone for 1500 years?
Basil the great.. AD 330
St Origin… AD 184
Chrysostom… AD 347
St Jerome.. AD 342
Clement of Rome… AD 35
all taught justification by faith alone
Martin Luther was just the one who said enough was enough and did something about it
We are saved by faith alone but not a faith that is alone.
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If you have faith and take no action, why should God give you everlasting life? Or even worse, if you have faith but do more evil than good and are unrepentant, then why should God give you everlasting life?
There is an innate change that results in good works, in those who come to believe. But it does not save you. Otherwise we do not need Christ.
Your works will not match the grace of God. Your works can never make God more "God". Your works are nothing. They are privileges of grace. Because you have been given, you can give and not "have to give". There is a difference between a giver who gives because he has to and a giver who gives because he has been given. For the former, giving is a requirement but for the latter, giving is a privilege of having received a gift.
If you are a person with special needs and has no chance to do good actions that would guarantee your definition of everlasting life, will God save you?
The thief whom Jesus Christ promised paradise did not even have a single chance to work because He died like Him. If we are going to look at works as our way to be saved and not the grace of God portrayed through dying of the cross, we would make Jesus Christ a liar and unfair to all of us.
God is not like that. He is the God of justice so He gave His only begotten Son to serve that.
Who are you to think that your works can match what Christ did on the cross? You, His creation can fill what He did on that cross? No amount of good works or action can add to the grace He gave. Such boastfulness to think that our works are everything! They are nothing!
Are we going to do good work?
A man who loves and has faith is justified by His works. A man moved by the Holy Spirit does not look at work as a requirement to everlasting life, but a privilege to do good because he received grace.
Let us change our mindset of work here. They are nothing compared to His dying on the cross. Our good actions here on earth will not earn us an everlasting life. They will testify of God's goodness to us. They will testify to other people that God is a good God because they see that in your works.
We are all living testimonies of the God that we believe in.
Exactly, and at the end God will separate the sheep from the goat according to their works
How much faith do you really have if you are not doing good works or if you are consistently doing more evil than good?
Isn’t that what the scripture is saying: “faith without works is dead”?
The best argument ever! The ending was astonishing! I would love tô have the talent for apologetics, as you guys do, but God instead gave me other ones. I pray God makes me use mine to the Carholic Church as a musician, as well as you do yours. I live in Brazil and never get tired of watching your debates
Astonishingly false and hypocritical. The history is false, and it's RCC with the traditions of men taking precedent over the Word of God.
@Game station Hahahaha!
@Game station Only Mary birthed Jesus, her mother nor grandmother did .In fact they would be the grandmother of JESUS and grandfather of JESUS. Remember Jesus had a human nature and a divine nature. If Jesus is God according to you, and Mary birthed Jesus. what does that make her.
@@YoloMINEgamer The human mother of Jesus that made Him human.
@@joycegreer9391 Is Jesus just human?
I don't have any disagreement that faith MUST be accompanied by works. There is sufficient scripture to back this up. What I don't understand is the last part where Jesus gives authority over to the church. My understanding is that this is not a license for all authority, but to resolve conflicts when they arise due to specifically sin. Somehow, the catholic church goes overboard with this and resolves to take authority for everything.
*Catholics can never explain why BIBLE says SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS!*
*BIBLE SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED NOT BY WORKS, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST*
( Only unbelievers and Jews under Mosaic Law are judged by works for salvation. Romans 2, Rev 20:13. Christians are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2:8-9. )
● 2 Tim 1:9 …. saved NOT according to our WORKS.
● Eph 2:8-9 … saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS.
● Titus 3:5 …. saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Gal 2:16 …. not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED!
● Rom 4:6 … Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH
● Rom 11:6 … IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE
● John 3:16 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Acts 16:30-31 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Eph 2: 8-9 … salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:1-2 … justified NOT BY WORKS!
● Rom 4:3 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:4 … WORKS are debts
● Rom 4:5 … he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED
● Rom 4:5 … God justifies the ungodly,
● Rom 4:5 … FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:8 … imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:11 … Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH
● Rom 4:14-15 … Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation.
● Rom 4:22 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:22 … RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS!
● Gal 2:16 … justified not by Works of the Law, but BY FAITH IN CHRIST!
● Gal 2:21 … if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.
● Gal 3:1-5 … Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)?
● Gal 3:1-5 … Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law?
● 2 Cor 5:21 … GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.
● 1 Pet 2:24 … Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS)
● John 1:29 … Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS)
● Luke 23:43 … the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS!
Take RCIA
@@johnyang1420 *IgnoramusintelxeroJohnnyYang is back!!!*
@@johnyang1420 *RCs failed to answer once again. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
- do lots of works to be saved
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved,through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
@Cortney Nicholson Correct we are created for good works but we are given the gift of salvation. You do not work for a gift and the works God has for you are the gold ,silver, and precious gems of 1 Cor 3:11-15
@Cortney Nicholson Eph 2:10 shows us that we were created to do GOOD works not bad works . God is the one that we go to and He directs us to those Good works that He wants us to do. 1 Cor 3:11-15 is the context of verse 15. There is no purgatory nor any need of purgatory because Christ died on the cross for every sin we have done are doing or will do. We are forgiven when we repent and follow Christ . God gives us salvation as a gift as evidenced by Eph 2: through faith. You might notice the term through faith has nothing attached to it , not alone , not works , not anything. Eph 2: also points out that God places our spirits in the heavenly realm with Jesus after we repent. Our flesh that does not inherit the kingdom of God is what we have to work with and on. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins we are mostly clean? That is what purgatory claims.
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
He saved us , is not the same as He is saving us. So back to building on the foundation of Christ in 1 Cor 3: , you can not build with sin so sin is not in question here and purgatory is for getting rid of the stain of sin. Coll 2:9-15 tells you that Christ dying on the cross for you and did everything for you already to make you clean . 1 Cor 6: gives you a whole mess of things we have done before Christ came into our lives and verse 11 points out what we WERE and what has happened to us because of Christ.
The wood hay and stubble of our lives is what we do thinking it is pleasing to God and that is not His will for us.
The gold silver and precious gems is the work that God has directed us to do and there are rewards for service to God as Paul points out. You are building on the foundation of Christ , you are building up the church with what you do . Faith in action .
James 2:15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you tells him, “Go in peace; stay warm and well fed,” but does not provide for his physical needs, what good is that? 17 So too, faith by itself, if it does not result in action, is dead.
Do you think this is worth a reward from God or is this some wood hay and stubble that you have built with?
How about you Prots stop leaving our the next verse? "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." When you take ANYTHING a Protestant quotes and read the next few lines it instantly sounds Catholic, and its because they pervert the scripture and leave things out to support their false man made religion.
The scripture proves that works are a portion of the salvation formula. I come at it from this angle. Bob is chosen by God and is called. Bob truly believes and is completely changed. Because Bob now knows the Truth and can’t ever go back, he just can’t help but do good things through his love of God. I’m a protestant branch Christian and I just don’t know why this is a debated issue. I do believe works are important!
James Chapter 2 - Verse 14 "Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead."
Maybe the Catholics would like to explain away that part of the NT where it says in later times deceiving spirits would come, forbidding men to marry, amongst other things.
All this absolute nonsense discussion and controversy and misunderstanding between faith and works. It's not difficult, actually it's so pathetic and shameful that a whole bunch of mature Christians have to endlessly debate a basic belief of the Bible. No wonder non believers mock us.
When you first become saved, it's purely by faith. You cannot earn it and only the sacrifice of Jesus provides it. Think of the thief on the cross. He could not do any works hanging on the cross. But he believed and was saved.
However..........
After time, there is process of sanctification as the Bible states, means that you grow in faith. The thief on the cross could not do any good works, he could not grow in faith, he could not grow in knowledge of the scriptures. If however he was suddenly pardoned after confessing Jesus he would bear fruit, as Jesus said. That means good works, in accordance with your faith, it means growing in hope, love, goodness, kindness etc, it means repentance of dead works and sin, it means growing in knowledge of the scriptures, in prayer, in devotion in daily life.
You are saved by faith only. If you, like the thief on the cross, have a couple of hours to live and are immobile and cannot do anything, good or bad, you are saved exclusively by belief and confession of the name of Jesus. If like the most of us you continue to live upon this earth, then your faith grows and you increase in fruits of the Spirit, in works and deeds, in knowledge etc.
It's not hard to understand. This is just basic and to our shame as Christians we debate even the milk of the word, as Paul said.
The entrance to Heaven is by faith in Christ. Nothing else. The life you love in Christ, your works, deeds, devotion, love, patience, kindness etc determine your rewards in Heaven, again as Paul says. After confessing Christ if you are truly devoted to Him, you will grow in works, deeds, repentance, love, kindness, patience etc. When the Bible says that faith without works is dead, it means those who confess Christ but are not really devoted to Him afterwards. It means false or shallow disciples, those who believe but don't bear fruit as Jesus said in the parable of the sower. They stagnate in their faith and do not grow in Him. Hence they produce no good works or anything else such as repentance, goodness, kindness, patience, gentleness love etc.
This is all just basic Biblical teaching. There should be no misunderstanding of such an elementary teaching of the Bible and its to professing Christians shame that such debate occurs.
Solid response.
So you just made yourself into your own Pope claiming authority to interpret the Bible. Big deal. The difference between you and the Pope is that he was given authority by Christ and you were not. Do you think truth is determined by a democracy of ideas in which each man follows his own understanding? The Bible teaches that truth is determined by authority, not by deciding what you think is the best argument. Your unexamined method of exegesis is not Biblical; it's a man made tradition invented by Luther. Every man can write their own version of what you wrote, but so what? The question is, who does the Bible say Jesus gave spiritual authority? Ill give you a hint; it was not you and it was not me.
@@stevedoetsch So imbecile I'm not even going to bother replying. And most other people reading your post would agree with me. Christ directly giving authority to the Pope. Lol, nice one dude. 😆
You made a giant write up claiming authority to interpret the Bible for others yet you think its ridiculous that someone else can do it too?
Yes, the Catholic Church claims authority from Christ; it's the only Church with apostolic succession from St Peter to the current Pope. Your [insert any Protestant denomination] church was made by someone other than Christ.
You have still failed to explain what makes your explanation of the Bible more correct than anyone else's. Non-Biblical methods of exegesis are contradictory because each man claims his understanding of the Bible is better than other people's.
Why do you think your explanation of the Bible is better than mine, or the Pope's, or anyone's?
@@stevedoetsch Paul says that doctrines of demons will come into the church in latter times, forbidding to marry and forbidding to eat foods. What part of that needs explaining and "interpreting" to you? Anyone with half a brain can easily interpret that.
You forbid to marry-doctrine of demons.
You forbid foods-doctrine of demons.
Tell me you can't understand something as simple as that. What is wrong with you?
The reformation was beneficial bringing us out of darkness
What darkness, the 1500+ years of Christianity prior to luther? He brought you the hearsay of sola sciptura resulting in 45-thousand protestor denominations which are at odds with Catholics and each other. Surely God wanted that, right?
I left the Catholic Church in 1986, after the priest was espousing liberation theology. I found freedom through reading the bible and salvation through the cross. I have a personal relationship with Jesus. I remember as child having a little statue of Mama Mary and praying the rosary over and over again. Ephesians makes it clear we are saved by grace and not by works, works are the evidence of our faith and not the cause of our salvation. Oh it's nice to have a radio show and give answers to people who have limited theological training. Why don't you invite John MacArthur, or Chuck Swindoll?
Take RCIA
TRUTH when he said all that 7 years ago and it is STILL TRUTH today in 2024. Amen!!
James was talking about works being a result of our faith. You say that that in faith alone is not mentioned, but you forget Ephesians 2:9.
I recommend you read Ephesians 2 completely. The letter is clearly stating you no longer have to conduct works such as "circumsion" to be considered saved. It is by Gods grace you are saved, not through the old procedures as before.
What about Ephesians 2:10?
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh not a justification for works salvation.
@@ThatDarnTurtle correct
Human, who are you to think thay your "works" will match the grace of God and would make Him be more God? 😂
Only grace can save. Forget working as requirement. Work because you were given grace.
No work is required to go to heaven becaus if it were so, Jesus Christ would be a liar when He said to the thief, "Today, you will be with me in paradise."
That "work to be saved" paradigm was deconstructed by one sentence and one situation. 😂
God be praised!
I’m a Protestant and I do not agree with everything Catholics practice. However, I have so much respect for them because they help so many people. Growing up we were poor and didn’t have money for food so we went to a local Catholic church many times and they fed us.
I used to question the catholic faith, as i was born catholic. But since i became more knowledgeable about the faith, i love it. It is all biblical. Father alar does great videos about the faith. Any topic you could imagine
@@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 why catholics prays to marry ?
@@JESUSCHRISTISLORD9 catholic pray to mary just because she has the closest relationship to jesus christ
catholic believe mary is the first woman who got saved by her own son catholic only honor and respect mary
not view mary as a goddess
@@aaronfung8025 prayer and worship only belongs to God Alone Brother. We all have closest Relationship with jesus. Jesus died not for only sins but also to join the Relationship again with God. The spirit of God (Holyspirit) who himself is God. Is in us. So we are much closer to Jesus.
@@aaronfung8025 even if you don't view her as godess you're doctrine has made her godess. Because you all pray to her that's a sin against God.
Dr Gene Scott: Faith is ACTION based upon BELIEF. AMEN
Nope faith is belief that brings about action
Ephesians 2:8-9
New International Version
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
You first must have faith then you must share your faith and live a godly life
The Lord always does things with "Purpose." It's very interesting to know that Jesus established His Church in "33" A.D. The age He was when when He Suffered His Passion, Death, following His Glorious Rising from the "dead." May the Lord Jesus Christ be Praised, Blessed, Adored and Glorified, now and forever, 🙏 Amen ✝️.
quote---- It's very interesting to know that Jesus established His Church in "33" A.D... unquote
And what church is that???? Where in the Bible?????
Ephesians 2:8-9.
Protestants like to leave out Ephesians 2:10, don't they?
William Go
Faith is not a product of works, works are a product of faith.
@@gilbertslam never see prots Proof texting a whole chapter. Just verses taken out of contexts.
@@FJhei I never argue further with prots. They refuse to listen and understand when you give them biblical answers to their questions about the Catholic faith.
@@adamjones6473 LOL not sure what you were trying to point out there when all I was saying is prots always disregard the 10th verse.
I agree that works are a product of faith and that is why Faith without works is dead. You might also wanna review the Parable of the barren fig tree
What most protestants get wrong is the definitions of words. The word faith has works in it's definition. Faith does not mean just saying something, if you really believe it's true you also act like it's true. Also works doesn't mean results, as if we are materialists, it means the effort you put in to abide by what you believe. Also when we pray to saints, prayer has many different definitions, only one of them is worship, we don't worship saints, nor Mary. Prayer can mean asking, telling, apologising, thanking or worshipping, only the last of reserved for God. People started bickering over semantics and separated from the one true church, of course without being told to do so by God. There is the problem.
Everyone already mentioned Ephesians, but my main issue is Paul's letter to Timothy.
1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1 Timothy 4:3 "Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
Catholic Priests, Bishops, and Cardinals should all be allowed to marry. Abstaining from meat should not be a requirement during Lent.
wow that was great, amazing video it reaffirms the conviction God has placed in me to NOT leave the Catholic Church, it has brought me so near to Him
Read a Kjv Bible then you’ll find out the actual biblical truth. We are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves. Religious man made traditions lead to nowhere.
John 14:6 Jesus said I am the way, the truth, and the Life, no one gets to the Father but by me.
P.S. Mary can’t hear your prayers.
I highly recommend you pray to God only, and only to God about where to guide you. I don’t know you personally, but I care enough for you. I don’t want you to be deceived. Please pray for guidance. God will lead you to the truth. That truth is through Jesus Christ alone. He is the savior.
@@techgamer8 Matthew 16:18-19: “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
When Jesus gave St. Peter the “keys of the kingdom of Heaven,” this was not to mean he gave Peter the keys TO Heaven.
Keys, as further referenced in Luke 11:52, are not keys in the way we think, but rather a way of saying “teaching authority” in those days, not literal keys that open the gates of Heaven.
Jesus entrusted Peter as his successor to be the first Pope of the Catholic Church and gave him the authority to of teaching the faith to the world by giving him the “keys of the kingdom of Heaven.”
As for “the gates of Hades” not overcoming the Church, the Catholic Church is the longest standing Church that was founded by Jesus Christ. It is true that no matter how much the Church has suffered, nothing has overcome it:
Not the great schism of 1054, where the Orthodox church started their own denomination and separated from the Catholic Church.
Not during the fall of Rome, or even before that when it was Catholics who were martyred for spreading the Word of Christ.
Not when Martin Luther was excommunicated over 500 years ago and wrote the 95 Thesis’s, starting the Protestant movement against the Catholic Church.
Jesus also gave the Apostles the authority they have as the first clergy of the Church:
John 20:21-23: Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
While misinterpreted by many Protestant denominations today, these were the events described when Jesus gathered the Apostles and entrusted them the power to be the pipeline to the Lord when one has committed mortal sin. The biggest misconception I hear is that Priests forgive sins in confessions, which is far from the truth. Jesus entrusted the Apostles and Peter to become the pipeline to the Lord when a mortal sin has been committed. No person ever confessed to a man, but rather a cleric who has opened the pipeline directly to God the Father for those sins may be heard by the Lord and be forgiven by the Lord alone.
The priests only serve as the pipeline to the Lord and to pass on the teachings of Jesus so that individual may have clarity on how to improve their life and live to serve the Lord and one another in their community.
As far as the Mary misconception, we do not pray to Mary. We ask Mary and the angels and saints for intercession and petition to Jesus Christ on our behalf. Mary is the Queen Mother of Heaven, completely incapable of ruling independently, she is only meant to petition to Lord Jesus on our behalf (John 2:1-5, when Mary requests Jesus to help the wedding at Cana by turning water into wine). The queen mother role is mentioned in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 13:18).
In conclusion, I stand by the Church that Jesus entrusted to guide humanity as the defender of the truth, not the decider. Yes, there are many wolves in sheep’s clothing that have infiltrated the Church and unless they repent, they will face justice when they meet the Lord in the next life. Just because of some flawed people trying to turn souls away from Christ does not mean I will turn away from the foundational structure Jesus set up for all of humanity to follow.
And yes, we as Catholics wholeheartedly agree that Jesus Christ alone is our way to God the Father and our salvation. However, our petitioning to Mary and the angels and saints, who are alive in Heaven and are aware of what is happening on earth, does not contradict the idea that Jesus is our only way to salvation. It deepens it! It is the same idea as if we were to ask a friend to pray for us. As a guideline to Catholic prayer: we ask Jesus for intercession, and we pray to the Father for adoration.
@@justifiedgameenforcer4173
@Ed Matthew 16:18-19: “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on YOU I will build my church???
Who is the cornerstone?
who is in the foundation of the church?
Eph 2:19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
So there is no brick and mortar church mentioned here , no cathedrals , no temple with any alter as that is all old testament and not the new covenant.
When Jesus gave St. Peter the “keys of the kingdom of Heaven,” this was not to mean he gave Peter the keys TO Heaven.
Keys, as further referenced in Luke 11:52, are not keys in the way we think, but rather a way of saying “teaching authority”
As for “the gates of Hades” not overcoming the Church, the Catholic Church is the longest standing Church that was founded by Jesus Christ. It is true that no matter how much the Church has suffered, nothing has overcome it:
If time of religious belief is so drastically important then Zen Buddhism must be true as it has endured for 2500+ years . It is NOT true and it deceives millions .
Not when Martin Luther was excommunicated over 500 years ago and wrote the 95 Thesis’s, starting the Protestant movement against the Catholic Church.
Now here is something you like to say because some guy caught the Roman Catholic church with both hands in the cookie jar giving out, for a price , indulgences so that the rich could sin but their sins were forgiven by the church for the amount of money they paid to the church . Indulgences are not found in scripture , nor is this fabricated place called purgatory , but the Roman Catholic church claimed it as truth.
Luther rebels against the Roman Catholic church hierarchy .
He is not rebelling against the only church that has salvation as a gift ,
he is not rebelling against the Lord Jesus Christ at all.
The council of Trent is called and the sale of indulgences was reduced as they are still available today.
Jesus also gave the Apostles the authority they have as the first clergy of the Church:
New Catholic Bible
Jesus also gave the disciples the authority
John 20:21-23: Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
All believers in the Lord Jesus have the authority to forgive or retain but any believer following Christ will realize that forgiveness is first and foremost the right course of action.
The priests only serve as the pipeline to the Lord and to pass on the teachings of Jesus so that individual may have clarity on how to improve their life and live to serve the Lord and one another in their community.
We have the scriptures that Paul tells timothy in 2 Tim 3:15-17 that to be thoroughly equipped the scriptures are all that he needs. The old and new testaments do not contradict each other so that verse is also for us today. There is no reference in the entire new testament where someone was set up to listen to the confessions of sin and dictate penance or forgiveness to the common believer. Old testament temple had that but now we have direct access to God and no middleman is required. Heb 4:15,16
As far as the Mary misconception, we do not pray to Mary. We ask Mary and the angels and saints for intercession and petition to Jesus Christ on our behalf.
Great double talk!
we do not pray to Mary.
CCC 2679 Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father, who sends his Son to save all men. Like the beloved disciple we welcome Jesus' mother into our homes, for she has become the mother of all the living. We can pray with and to her. The prayer of the Church is sustained by the prayer of Mary and united with it in hope.
We ask Mary and the angels and saints for intercession and petition to Jesus Christ on our behalf.
OK so you don't pray to Mary , but as she is dead and her spirit alive in the heavenly realm with Jesus you ask her to intercede for you? Just what is the difference between prayer and asking when it comes to asking or praying to a dead person ?
Maybe you should look to see who intercedes for you in the scriptures ?
Romans 8:34
New Catholic Bible
34 Who will condemn? Christ Jesus, who died, or rather rose again, who is at God’s right hand and intercedes for us?
You will not find one verse in the entire bible with all the books that tells you to pray to anyone other than God. But you ask a dead person or a dead saint ,or an angel to petition to Jesus on your behalf? Where is your basis for that belief ?
Mary is the Queen Mother of Heaven, completely incapable of ruling independently, she is only meant to petition to Lord Jesus on our behalf
Nonsense and totally man made belief as it is not found in scripture at all.
(John 2:1-5, when Mary requests Jesus to help the wedding at Cana by turning water into wine).
maybe read that verse again as Mary does not tell or request Jesus to do anything. She does however request/ command the servants.
The queen mother role is mentioned in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 13:18).
Yup and Queen of heaven is stated in Jeremiah 7:16-19 but it is not complimentary.!
And yes, we as Catholics wholeheartedly agree that Jesus Christ alone is our way to God the Father and our salvation.
does this mean you will deny the apparitions at Fatima and Guadalupe for their false doctrine ?
However, our petitioning to Mary and the angels and saints, who are alive in Heaven and are aware of what is happening on earth, does not contradict the idea that Jesus is our only way to salvation.
So now instead of prayer or asking ,it is petitioning Mary and the saints to twist the arm of Jesus to get His attention?
It deepens it! It is the same idea as if we were to ask a friend to pray for us.
Well this sentence is found in James and yes it is living people praying for living people on the same planet , it is not referring to living person praying for dead person for healing.
As a guideline to Catholic prayer: we ask Jesus for intercession, and we pray to the Father for adoration.
Not to far back above you stated that Mary intercedes for you?
The Roman Catholic Church was never ordained by Jesus who was Jewish.
@@techgamer8 however, the KJV isn't the only good version available as not everyone finds it easy to read.
“Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,”
Romans 4:4-5
*Yes indeed. Roman cult preaches Works Salvation that is cursed by Scriptures. Gal 1:8-9.*
@@jediv9492 The problem I find is that Catholics are either being taught the negatives of Luther only ,or the lies of the RCC in that anyone who goes by faith must not be doing anything for anyone else. All too often up comes the verse about what you did for the least of these you did for me and it seems if you go by faith you ignore this? Just not true at all.
@@bobloblawb2593 *Yes indeed. Catholics claimed Faith Alone means no works. So its dead faith. But its the opposite. Faith Alone comes with good works. Eph **2:10**, Gal **5:22**. So its indeed a Living Faith.*
@@jediv9492 "Today for breakfast I had eggs alone. I also had pancakes, oatmeal, and fruit as well, but I had eggs alone."
So you are not aware of the complete irrationality and cognitive dissonance in claiming that "faith alone" also includes works? If you believe in faith and works as the Bible teaches then you reject the idea of "faith alone" invented by Luther.
@@stevedoetsch Explain Romans 4:4-5.
How can you go from saying, "Jesus didn't give us the Bible, He gave us the Church" to using Scripture to establish the Church's authority? The whole point of the video is about how Protestants go against Scripture. And yes, the Church has authority. That's a big part of it's purpose. But, that doesn't mean it has authority over God's Word. And when the Church judges these conflicts, are they not to use Scripture to do so? It seems you are saying we should view Scripture through the lense of the Church as opposed to the Church through the lense of Scripture.
How can we have consistency if we have to rely on humans when humans disagree with each other and even change their own minds quite often? Does the Gospel change? What about if one pope disagrees with his predecessor or successor?
If the scripture was complete and full then you could give it to any group of two or more people anywhere in space or time and allow them to use it to sort things out and with a fair reading you'd expect the same result every time.
If it's not full and complete and requires constant human oversight and adjustment and amendment then it's not worth basing a religion on.
@@mattallred Nope! Humans are sinners and no one follows Scripture perfectly. We follow Scripture to varying degrees and some don't attempt to do so at all. Although personal Bible study is important, I agree that it's important to also study in community with others. Two people in isolation would not benefit from being in a larger group of mature and growing believers who would help them understand Scripture better and avoid heresy. This is why we have preachers and teachers and are commanded to meet together. (They could obviously only meet with each other.) But, we all have some heretical beliefs, because at best we are fallen creatures corrupted by sin studying with other maturing fallen creatures corrupted by sin. We will not achieve perfection on this earth. It is we who need adjustment, not Scripture.
And of course, some interpretation is necessary. It was written thousands of years ago over the course hundreds or thousands of years, in an entirely different culture and translated from a different language. We all have cultural lenses and don't even always recognize when we are looking through them. We can learn a lot from personal Bible study, but this is one of the reasons small group settings and larger corporate gatherings are so important. Others can show us our errors and provide insights they have gleaned that any individual may not pick up in personal study.
@@juanitadudley4788 in philosophical debate it is possible to consider a situation in which there are isolated individuals - I'm not talking about some guys sitting in a basement in Ohio, I'm talking in a logical hypothetical.
I myself am not a follower of Jesus and do not intend to become one but I'd imagine if God had gone through the trouble of establishing a kingdom on earth with his chosen people and giving his word to them and then fulfilling the prophecy through Jesus that it would have been for the reason of giving a definitive word - a finite law and final word.
If two space aliens arrived in the future and only found a single Bible and attempted to recreate the religion you'd assume they'd create something very similar, assuming otherwise implies that the faith is not catholic (full, universal, complete) but rather a bureaucratic legalistic system of amendment and human will. I just don't see the point if the religion cannot be made new again in the same likeness every day by a fair reading of the text.
Luke 1:46+47
“And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord and my spirit rejoices in
GOD MY SAVIOR!”
ONLY SINNERS NEED
A SAVIOR !
Grew up a Catholic, revered Jesus and respected Mary as the blessed mother of God. Prayed many Hail Mary's and Our Fathers. Encountered priests nuns and brothers that didn't seem particularly happy and certainly was led to feel less than and kept in their religious prison. Never felt free to be where I was at. But I was a Catholic and I was cool with that. At 34 encountered Pentecostal church. Had a profound encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ. Was given a greater understanding of who I was in Christ and formed a relationship with the Holy Spirit that is still marvellous until this day. In the Catholic Church I learnt reverence but the general feel amongst the Catholics was that the protestants were beneath us. That did not seem like love to me. In the protestant church I found freedom in the Holy Spirit and was able to forge a real relationship with Jesus. Protestants reckon the Pope is the Antichrist and they're also way to fixated on the devil ( deliverance ministry). I certainly agree with the bible that states Mary is greatly blessed amongst all women, but I believe many Catholics pray more to Mary than they do through Christ to the Father. I've listened to Catholic scholars attempt to use scripture to say that Mary is queen of heaven. The scriptures they use seem to stretch the bow a little bit. Until I see it by revelation in the scriptures, I don't have an opinion either way. I believe Protestants and Catholics are part of the body of Christ and it would certainly be wonderful if they would stop arguing over one word. What a Glorious Church to behold if we could truly come together as one united body. Reminds me of that Catholic song " and we pray that our unity will one day be restored and they'll know we are Christians by our love." Lift your game brethren stop having to be right. Come together in love ❤️ in Jesus name. Peace and Grace.
You can still have that zeal and personal encounter with Christ as a member of the Catholic Church. Just bc you experienced a few bad apples doesn’t mean the Catholic Church is invalid or that it ceases to be the One that Christ founded.
The queen mother comes from old biblical terms where the Kings mother in the old Testament was called the queen. Not the King's wife. Mary is the mother of Jesus who is God if you believe in the trinity this makes Mary the Queen Mother I hope that helps
@kathyweiland4732 Thank you for sharing that. I had not looked at it with that understanding. Futher searching revealed the Hebrew word Gebhirah, translated Queen Mother or Great Lady. Nice 😊. I'm still left with the question of whether or not I can communicate with Mary and the saints. I can't find any examples in the Bible. I hope I'm not being contentious, I just don't want to be engaged in any practices that in any way displeases our Lord and I certainly don't want to push away something that God has ordained to be a Holy practice. Jesus is the way to the Father, I will continue in the Lords Prayer and walking in the Faith of the son of God. I pray you encounter greater Grace's in God this day. Bless you.
@anthonymiskell1772 The Bible does mention praying for the dead and the early Christians believed in intercessory prayer with those in Heaven. Intercession was also taught in the Bible.
@littleone1656 the Bible speaks about raising the dead, not praying to or through those that have died. I don't think you read or understood my post. Jesus intercedes for us to the Father. Those alive on the Earth can pray for one another.