'Where is French democracy?': activists interrupt Macron's speech in the Netherlands
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- France's president, Emmanuel Macron, was opining on one of his favourite topics at The Hague, when activists made an intervention criticising the state of French democracy.
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As Macron thanked the Nexus Institute for hosting him, one protester shouted: 'I think we lost something; where is French democracy?' at the start of Macron's speech on European sovereignty at the Nexus Institute. Another chimed in: 'Why did you bypass [the] French parliament?' in reference to the controversial pensions bill his government recently passed.
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Did he really just basically say
"see we have democracy because people can interrupt" ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Yes lol and arrested
Yes he did, and right after,
"Did sort of thing is forbidden"
@@Niko3387Y Must be a new style of debate
Yeah. He said that as they were silenced and removed by security. What a contradiction.
That’s the extent of his conception of democracy. A gimmick. Forgive him, he’s got more than he can handle at home right now so lecturing people during state visits is his thing now.
As a Dutch person I’m very proud of my fellow Dutch students who are known for their free opinion and straight forward way of saying what they think.
They were Dutch students? They sounded very dumb...
and as a French person I feel a lot of appreciation and gratitude for Dutch people
Goedendag, In France we are very proud of those dutch students, they are heroes for us. Dank u wel Nederlands het is echt goed. tot ziens And yes we don't have democracy no more, this guy is a psycho and dangerous.
Yea whole class citizen for freedom! I love Dutch guts.
Proud of what? Being disrespectful to a President?
Democracy is when people's opinion means something and influence on something, dear Macron. Not just right to scream in a void.
French warships were found in the Taiwan Strait. Is it possible that the Sino-French joint military exercise will cooperate with China's military reunification of Taiwan?
@@fishchang1522 would be fun for his EU friends
@@fishchang1522 China doesnt need French for this small task. Not worth owing French a favor.
Isnt democracy means everyone got 1 vote? France has voted so democracy is served.
民主的意思不是用暴力手段推翻资产阶级政府，建立归属人民的社会主义国家吗？
Democracy means,
The majority of the people decide.
At least 80% of the French are against what Macron is doing.
Not to mention he bypassed the French parliament to dictate his will.
It is more like 60% and the rest of us know why those reforms are necessary...
@@RemiBusseuil well....
The majority of the French people disagree.
You are basically confirming what Macron is doing is undemocratic.
What about bypassing the French parliament?
Do you understand why that was necessary as well ????
It's hardly uncommon to use article 49.3 of the French constitution to bypass parliament. Pretty much every government in France has used it in modern times. If the French don't like that particular law, they should start a protest to have the constitution amendended to get rid of it.
The French Revolution killed 1/3 of the population, so what is the price? Democracy, isn't it? Did Macron trample on the French ancestors who died in the French Revolution by betraying democracy?
Macron can legally bypass the French govt because previous govt allows it in law. If French dont like it, start with changing the law. No point whining when you are on the loosing side.
So these are the "dealing with bad situations capabilities" of someone that would like to lead the whole of Europe lol
With an ally like Macron, the alliance does not need an enemy.
Lol
Since France is going to be a U.S. vassal state without the ability to be independent, it is the only country among the five permanent members of the United Nations that does not have autonomy. It is better to give up the position of one of the five permanent members of the United Nations to India. India has more backbone than France.
Macron is doing the right thing though. It might not be democratic, but with rising life expectancies, you can't just keep the retirement age the same.
Also less kids are being born, who is going to drive the economy if hals the country is retired?
@@donder91 "Also less kids are being born, who is going to drive the economy if half the country is retired?"
The people who are not retired.
@@donder91 the pension is solvent. It has no need to be changed. What he should be doing if there is a deficit is, reducing military spending. Spending that he actually increased recently by 40%.
As for the birth crisis, all you accomplish by raising the age is kicking the can down the road again, where it will be even worse next time. Ways of combating an aging population is either increasing immigration or increasing public spending on pro-natal policies, like universal daycare etc…
After his official visit to China, Macron has suddenly became like a “Chinese-spy-like” European politician.😂
US paid activists
dont be fooled. its to drum up ppl like u to give it awareness and give it attention taking away from the real issue at hand which the protestors are fighting for
The media is always under the control of the west and the media controls people.
All leaders over the world come to visit China, you guess why ? !
He is so slimy
There is an aphorism in China.
People are kind of like water. It seems it's nothing and no power. But the water can float a boat, and the water can drown the boat down.
源自中国春秋战国时期，出自《荀子.玉制篇》
Another one originated from China
@@江河入海流 Hi, Thank you so much. I amended my comment above. Thank you for letting me notice that I've been mistaken.
In my opinion, the Chinese government banned RUclips, so it means that you are not in China. It would be nice if you point it out in English for more people.
@@yongjinnkim9207 uhh RUclips had build-in translate
@@yongjinnkim9207 Slightly weird comment regarding RUclips Ban in mainland. VPN exists.
But regardless, the original passage is from Xunzi, a Confucius philosophical writing from Warring States period. The passage in Chinese is:
君者，舟也。庶人者，水也。水則載舟，水則覆舟。欲安，則莫若平政愛民矣。
Translation:
A monarch is that of a boat. The common folks is that of water. The water can carry the boat, the water can also flip the boat over. If one desires peace, then he shall employ fair policy and loves his people.
We've seen enough such democracy. Here in Athens in the ancient times the people actively participated in the decision making process. What we have is not democracy. Had it been so, the world would be a better place. I say let's bring about some actual democracy-δημοκρατία. Power to the people not professional liars (lawyers-journalists for the most part) who act like our representatives.
Socialism is needed for real democracy. Capitalism is fundamentally undemocratic.
Athenian democracy is of exclusionary nature and not compatible with the modern world.
For that, you would have to abandon capitalism otherwise the rich man vote would outvote your vote.
@@zeyadsaeed9580 it's not capitalism it's oligarchy like it was in Sparta.
I think we lost something? Looks like he lost his watch again 😅
Anyone can answer me? French warships were found in the Taiwan Strait. Is it possible that the Sino-French joint military exercise will cooperate with China's military reunification of Taiwan?
@Harry Huang not possible, if anything they are there to help the Americans and Taiwanese
Thanks, from France! Indeed, we lost democracy with him and his government.
Well we never had it
@@winterguest2003 maybe, but it was less evident and violent.
but him and his govt was elected into power.. its not like he used military forces to kick the former President out of France and become the new President, also there was a "VOTE of No confidence" a VOTE.. in which he survived it.. so who is to blame? him? or the system? why is he the "bad president" when its the votes that is keeping him in power?
He's doing his best to France as a country. It's still a democracy and you can vote him out but you have to experience the consequences yourself after that.
You not getting what you want is not ‘losing democracy’. Spoiled child.
The moment where Macron realised he wasn't in China anymore
Do you mean the tons of garbage on the streets?
China was wondering why Emmanuel was lecturing their conduct considering...
it is not about climate in general, it is about the climate policy against the people's desires, including bypassing the parliament to push the new pension fund law and more.
What do pensions have to do with the environment?
@@harbl2479 The French just being lazy to work at 66.
@@Siranoxz from what i have heard, there is a minimum working equivalent to be eligible to get the pension fund, so the 62 is the absolute minimum, the reality is always higher.
@@lottery248 Here in the Netherlands its 66 years of minimum, and older people here work even beyond their retirement to avoid being bored so they take a regular job to occupy themselves and that goes over 70 years of age.
These are just regular pensioners my friend.
And the French are even whining about 62 is baffling to me.
But i guess our retirement policies and working culture is different compared to the French huh?.
Free hk
Macron are trying to teach iran🇮🇷 human rights but he himself doesn't understand and know as to what's human rights lol😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂
He has to leave.
Respect voor de demonstranten . Macron laat goed zien wat zijn persoonlijkheid is voor miljoenen kijkers
OMG this guy is totally delusional
Why does one of the dudes sound like the actor who plays Einstein in the National Geographic’s show “Genius”
I can answer all of your questions.
Doesn't answer the question.
He needs more than some rational people shouting at him. That punch a while back was along the right path. Maybe an egg or two.
That’s the same democratic government we have in Brazil 🇧🇷, the worst one
Lies again? Dallas Bull S**t
The United States Yes, all going according to plan... Mwahahaha! (rubbing hands together)
He should step down. He has failed France like the Maginot Line
"We have democracy... the people can vote for one of the candidates the party chooses every few years."
Homie thinks he can dodge everywhere, grats to those ballzy lads for asking the right questions
".... I can answer all the question you want...". But after the police removes these minorities representing 90% of French.
The problem is not Macron alone, but moreover, all the people seated and silent not trying to let the others speak up. This is called complicity!
...all the silent people are wanting and hoping to be like Macron and others like him.
To take from the 90% and fill their own pockets.
He said it, this is a democracy. Therefore since we don't like it, perhaps we need something new...
Democracy is when different country can have its own oppinion !!
Democracy is always a compromise
People are naive and shortsighted....they cannot think beyond their short term requirenents. People need to be protected from their own vices and immortality. That's why democracy is a failure.
@@stormshadow5283 And what do you suggest?
@@gianlucapistoia8993 enlightened despotism
@@stormshadow5283 You don’t get to decide that.
La démocratie, M. Macron, c'est aussi une réponse non-violente et non abusive face aux protestations sociales
En waarom is hij nog steeds jou president
@@jonnalank6541 because the other choice was Marine Le Pen
@@paolobarontini799 Marine Le Pen is worst ? I don't know him
Macron, "There are countries where these types of demonstrations are forbidden."
"And my highest aspiration is that France becomes just such a country."
I added that last part.
France has never been a democracy, since 1789 the bourgeoisie has taken the power and never left it, we need real democracy, with a citizen parliament and referendums
French people should be ashamed of Macron.
Oh we are. He's the worst elected president of our current republic, abstentions were never higher, and protests have been happening almost every week since 2017. He's hated, but he's also able to make a fool of himself alone, he doesn't need our help to look ridiculous worldwide. To us, he's not representing us, just himself. I mean, he's insulted us enough to make it clear he was playing solo anyways.
No we are proud of him, he is one of the best politician of all time
The vast majority of the French is ashamed of him
Bigl ike to students. Europe are loosing democracy and it began with covid Plandemie.
Marcroning 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wher is the Part of the speech where he speeks about Europes future indipendence from the USA😉
When Europe in danger do you need help from US, When US need help FR just watch？
From what is the US in danger other than from their own people?
France signed the US birth certificate and France was right not to follow the Americans in 2003 to Iraq for oil
This is what you get when you vote for an autocratic centrist.
The Guillotine is where it is at. Old school justice.
I loved how he said hello lol
Embarrassing moment for Mr. Macron
We voted and elected a president to serve his pple not for the financial markets and black rock.
sorry, no, you did not!
well he used to be a banker afterall ....
Thats what you get for supporting Capitalism
Libya : Cough Cough,
I thought they were protesting the pensions but they seem to be more interested in climate change
Macron's Kowtow trip in China said quite a bit.
What a time we are living in French revolution 2.0
Ukraine war
Pakistani conflicts
human vs robots
Sudanese conflict
yemen war
middle east war
british economic crisis
I just pray the best for everyone
Well Middle East since World War 1 has been always in conflict. Please correct me if I'm wrong
Where is French democracy?
Enmanuel macron. Estoy contigo. Si vas Donald Trump. Voy contigo. Defiende. A Vladimir putin
Enmanuel macron. Pedire. Hollywood. Full support. Lo necesito. Francia. Parlament. Porque me apoyo. El año pasDo. Con lS familias. De los jugadores. Eres mi prioridad. Ganara las election. Vamos que te necesito.
When you treat people like your little subjects, how should we put you down ?
Oh boy
Defiende. Francia. Defiende Vladimir putin. Que sean respetadas tod religion. Cultura. Defiende. A Vladimir putin. Me. Aparte. Wester. Por motivos. Todos mis logros. Se los dan a otra persona. No es justo. Ya. He dicho. Yo solo vere las persona. Que han estado conmigo. Veo. Que. Juegan. Necesito tu union. Te apoyare. Al 100 en eso estoy
with the rise of the internet the people could easily directly vote on a law from their mobiles on a state website/app
Francois Hollande : *sweats nervously*
0:48 This is exactly places where this kind of expression are forbidden....
it's rimand me what aidi amin said: "i'm sure that theres a freedom of speach but i'm not sure that will be a freedom after the speach"
democracy is partecipation of the people to the government of a country, not just election every five years (in which the most part of electors are totally conditioned by media controlled by corporations)
People are naive and shortsighted....they cannot think beyond their short term requirenents. People need to be protected from their own vices and immortality. That's why democracy is a failure.
@@stormshadow5283 so you think that only the authorities can protect the people from their own vices and immorality? I think that authorities are the real receptacle of all vices and immoralities, and all they do is against the interests of people. I prefer the explosion of all the hate of the people against the holders of power than every "protection" made by the autohorirties to avoid "the vices and immorality" of the common persons. If you think in a so moderate way, that means
1. you are involved with the power,
2. you are a normal person thinking against his own interest
@@pieropurich990 normal people are not meant to govern.....their mind are too incapable of thinking beyond their desires.
@@pieropurich990 this guy thinks "enlightened despotism" is gonna last us into the future dont bother
😡, evil man!!!!
So how long do people want to bet until macron gets guillotine? Jkjk but how is he able to literally subvert parliament to change the retirement age? Can some French people explain their politics?
Man forgot he was in the EU so his own people could follow him wherever he went.
Te apresio. Mucho a usted su esposa. Tiene. Palabra. Que pedia dream. Eran. En iados. Eran cumplidos. Vamos. No te dejare. Solo
He's fast becoming an embarrassment to France.
A dictator speaks about Democracy 😂
🗽🔥🗽
You got this Frenchies! Have fun dealing with Macron! Remember, you are "not the Vassal state of the United States" so you won't be recieving our help like you have been every time you get in an inch of trouble.
I think the US should intervene and try to give the French people democracy like it did in irak Syria and Libya .... I mean France is becoming a dictatorship country and the Americans are the proclaimed democracy fighters (at least that what they claim to be when it comes to middle east😒)... No?
shame on him
His terrible for France he is a dictator
You're correct on both counts!
Guillotine for this criminal
WE WANT MADAME LE PEN!!! Mararon is not a valid leader with such a mess in his country
I don't think people realize that democracy won't make you get your way
This is why me as a Belgian, think that the Netherlands is so much better.
theater group is having a blast, very well speaking person for sure
You should think qbout Interventiom when elarging Nato territory now u will pay high price as countty
Where is Dutch democracy? Most of the country voted to preserve Dutch farmers? ? Now they want to drag the farmers off their land !
french is advance technological european country like germany. but yeah their politics is so mess up
Haha, have yall westerners ever heard of something called pragmatism?
Macron will suffer a beautiful, world changing coup and I'm all for it.
A question to all country's where do you draw the lines for what a government can do without a vote. ????
He did agree to answer then why to scream?
He couldn't care less... the contempt!!!
Well deserved.
Even Iran had its words about Macron’s regime.
GIVE US AN EMPEROR! GIVE US NAPOLEON BONAPARTE!
What is "Westeŕn democracy"?
Just look at one of those Nordic countries or something.
a myth
They might of lost something? But, they sure did find something!
JD
"Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men?..."
Down the toilet like ours,
He's definitely the most handsome world leader out there ❤
He handled it well
GRC @ 0:32 - 0:44 When you know, you know :D
Where is? In US pocket.
How about trying a sentence, one that makes sense?
@@frontenac5083 how about brain, one is able to understand what is meant?
So much for EU 'membership' BREXITEERS were RIGHT .............. STAND UP FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!
It's cancelled by French elitism.
very disrespectful to interrupt a speech
Hey can someone fill me in on why people are upset at Macron?
I think Macron has lost his marbles.
Forbidden 🙄 where is freedom of speech.
Liberate il giornalista che era contro la guerra liberatelo
It has died at the same time as Lenin stole powers 😫
Don’t threaten President Merde
as a french person, THANK YOU !!!
People are naive and shortsighted....they cannot think beyond their short term requirenents. People need to be protected from their own vices and immortality. That's why democracy is a failure.
The water is coming to a boil