Oh my gosh, the question was asked, "what is grace" and with all the theological knowledge that was at that table, no one gave the full definition of grace. Simply put, grace is unmerited, undeserved, unconditional favor from God. It is by which we are saved. Since we can't earn it by what we do, nor can we lose it by what we do or don't do, it is the sovereign act of God to bestowing favor on whom He chooses.
For anyone who has a problem with this I would ask you this.Why would God give grace (biblical)but not also give you a new heart (biblical)Its not one or the other. Both are by the Holy spirit.Its not about sinless perfection but having a new direction.The idea you can claim to be saved but still be nice and comfy in rebelling against God with no conviction is just not in the bible.Just because its not by your works you are saved ,doesn't mean salvation has no effect.
Salvation is by faith and faith alone and it is kept by christ through faith. However, evidence is necessary, the evidence of being born again. The evidence being of the general trajectory of the believers life steering towards God nomatter how many times we fail. The attitude of sinning as much as you want and having no problem or quarrel with it because you know Jesus will forgive you uses Christ as a doormat and is evidence that you are not born again and saved.
The first fruits of being born again is not stopping sinning or proper observance of the law (what I suppose you mean by "works") not at ALL! Here are examples of first fruits - you don't judge people anymore, you stop looking for evidence of salvation in other people, in Him there is no condemnation, you are not seeking evidence of sin or law neither in others nor in yourself because you're dead to sin AND to the law that gives sin its power, you are seeking only HIS look at you rather than how other people look at you, regarding how HE sees other people you believe what they confess about their faith in Him and it becomes easy for you to just receive them as new creations in Him with open arms regardless of their actions, even if it is personally against you. You see them as the righteousness of God in Jesus, therefore judging them actually becomes detestable for you, as it is said that the one who is accusing the righteous is detestable in the eyes of God (and obviously there is no true righteous person other than the one who believes in his heart that Jesus is God and confesses with his mouth that He died for his sins and rose from the dead to declare His righteousness upon him, only God sees the heart but it is for us to receive the confession!), moreover you encourage them to remember their new identity in Christ and to look at Him not only in moments of weakness but also in moments of strength in order to stay humbled by His gracious, non judgemental, fatherly stare, and to always remember HIS unconditional Love that He revealed at the cross and with which He continues to fill us through His Spirit, and most importantly the one fruit of salvation that you should receive and not object to from the beginning of your walk with God is faith - faith in your first love, which IS the first moment when the Grace of God was revealed to you in the person of Jesus Christ and you accepted it confessing your faith to Him, in other words you need to stay FAITHFUL to your first conviction of BEING SAVED IN HIM!! Hebrew 10 - with the FULL assurance that faith brings let us draw near to HIM!! you absolutely don't want to place doubt in anyone's heart about their salvation by pointing them at their lack of what YOU think is godly "works", it is however good to witness about God's works in your OWN life in your OWN experiences in the walk with Him, but only when it is necessary and by rightly emphasizing and pointing that it is HIM and not YOU.
PLEASE my question is that do people NEED license to sin what is actually happening is what happened in Jesus' time . All the law teachers were against Him because what he was teaching were against those law thing but in a way accomplishing the law. Paul was persecuted sake of his teachings . If it was the law he was preaching i doubt he would have been persecuted . It is the Grace message in its fullness ( that those dudes call Hyper-Grace) that Paul was preaching
God is a merciful God, sure He know our weakness, no one is perfect, even after you have repented does not means you wont sin anymore. Remember God know this, thus His word in the bible said the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. look How Graciuos of Him to say this. Amen, Praise the Lord, Hallelujah.
Please teach how you accept teachings of Jesus like show the other cheeks, love your enemy, how you work to be perfect like Jesus, how to live a life as Jesus commanded, what to do in return for the blessings of Jesus, how to love Jesus as He expected etc; these are really missing from almost every Pastor's sermon and in great need to stop the failing faith among the believers.
As to the statement that Paul was speaking to the lost, I disagree, he was speaking to and teaching Christians the principles of grace, faith and the hope we have in Christ to counter the judaizers.
The problem is that very few people know what God's complete forgiveness on the cross is for. It is so that anyone who is willing can receive God's Holy Spirit to dwell with them forever and the reason Our God will never leave us is because he will never hold our sins against us. Not so we can freely sin (even though we can), so we can receive everything we need, which is our God's love, acceptance, leading and guiding!
Only the younger man on the end knew what he was talking about. Not once was repentance or discipline mentioned. Repentance is the door through which grace enters our lives and grace is not endless, when we continue to rebel against God's commands He will withdraw His grace, ask Israel when they went into captivity in Babylon.
Angel Dancer The strength of sin is the law. 1 Cor. 15:56. Hence, Grace is enough apart from or being mixed with law. Law is our schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. Galatians 4.
People have to have faith in Jesus to be saved. Grace is one of the characteristics of God. Like God's Love. Do not worship grace.....be thankful for Grace but worship God, worship Jesus , because you are allowed to believe.
Grace reveals you who you are in Christ, Christ reveals how you need faith to access grace to free you from sin (nature) and know longer a slave or to serve sin (the old man) a ID revelation from God of who you truely are in Christ will cause right living. Right believing produces right living only by grace is this possible.
Mapogo Tribe faith to access grace - so your back to works - did Paul have faith on the road to Damascus? Or did Lazarus have faith to raise himself from the dead - stop thinking you have done ANYTHING to deserve the grace you have been given.
I don't know anyone that says " Do what you want". I think alot of people say they do however , most say " once for all salvation, not having to confess every sin; Everytime.
People against grace are mostly those who push Lordship salvation. Which hey teach salvation is a gift but obedience maintains salvation or if someone is a carnal or Luke warm Christian they either lost salvation or were never saved. So it’s work salvation. Even those who teach works prove salvation, how much is enough to prove it? There never is assurance because people go through different seasons in life.
Thats why Judaizers accused Paul of teaching grace as license to sin, because of hyper grace they(Judaizers) misunderstood him. Unless you are not misunterstood by the legalizers you are not preaching pure grace of God.
Grace is not a person. Just like faith is not a person. That false statement attempts to say an over exaggeration of grace is not possible. However, there is certainly a misuse of grace these days and it has become a doctrine of passivity without responsibility for sin. In Matthew 6 Jesus taught his disciples to pray and ask for forgiveness daily. Daily we live in the Spirit and repent of flesh or sins. That is living in the vine and maturing in Christ.
Why do you repent daily when you're sins are forgiven? maybe just in case you have, are you sin conscious all the time or half the time, do you get weary from all that,i like to see my self as Jesus sees me.💜
Here’s what hyper-grace puts on the table: 1.) Easy Believism. A person can be a regenerated person without any change from their constitutive nature. Usually pushes a crossless and bloodless gospel, and omits the bad news. Just goes straight to the Gospel without any priming. 2.) We have no obligation to practice holy living, or obedience. I’m not into Lordship Salvation, nor Hyper-Grace. I think both have some problems, and the truth is found in the middle. Lordship salvation can easily turn into a barometer by which we evaluate our faith or validity of our salvation, and can take our eyes off of what Jesus did on the cross. Hyper Grace can put us in the mindset that Christianity is a license to sin without consequences.
I'm a HyperGRACER according Romans 5:20b which I experienced personally, THANK YOU JESUS ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡ I hate legalistic repressive religion, which has NOTHING to do with the biblical Gospel of GRACE in the brandNEW Testament, the brandNEW contract with God. You can reject religion, but you can't reject The Invitation of your creator, your Abba-Father Papa-Dios.... Rom.8:15 Gal.4:6 ♡♡♡ He's waiting for ALL His lost daughters and sons. Please, before you die, embrace His Love, come into His Truth, get eternal LIFE in His presence, repent your sins and become clean by The Precious Blood of Jesus Christ. It's all GRACE, it's God's pure mercy keeping us ALIVE, halleluJAH-LOVE 💚💛❤️🥰😍😘❤️🔥🕊🕊🕊🌍🌏🌎🇱🇰🇩🇪🇬🇷🇳🇱🇨🇭🇺🇦🇷🇺🇯🇲🇮🇱🛐🙏
Satan deceived Adam and Eve in the beginning.he convinced them they didn't have to OBEY God. Satan is still doing the same thing today convincing people they don't have to OBEY. Jesus Christ told his disciples if you love me OBEY my commandments. I will follow Jesus not anyone else
@@justinambrose4444 John5:39-40 has nothing to do with keeping any commandments. If a man knows what is good and doesn't do it, to him it is sin. We can do whatever we know is good bud
@@Humblestudent04 yeah but even when you think you're not sining you sin it says in Scripture who that thinks he doesn't sins is a foolish man everybody sins... The commandments are dead to the unrighteous the law is for non-believers
@@justinambrose4444 guess then we can't do whatever we know is good according to you're reasoning then. No one has to wilfully sin. Following Jesus has nothing to do with commandments
that applause sounds as real as the mystery straw-men preachers that teach "you are free to act however you want because God loves you." Who are these imaginary preachers that preach it's cool to keep sinning? I haven't heard this preached...
Agreed, i haven't heard any grace teachers preach grace as a licence to sin! In fact the opposite is true. I'm really sick and fed up that every time the Hyper Grace message/teachers is brought up it is always comes with that false accusation. I have never in my 30 years as a Christian met anyone who has used grace as a licence to sin. I have seen many trapped in guilt and condemnation because they haven't encountered grace as the result of the condemnation coming from some pulpits with the emphasis placed on law, performance, principles to get from A - Z and the 24 keys to wherever, when we already have every spiritual blessing in Christ. When are we just going to trust the finished work of Jesus Christ to transform a person? This goes right back to the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve who were already made in the image of God listened to the serpent who told them if they eat of the fruit they would become like God. The same deception the caused the fall in the first place is still at work and has wriggled its way into the gospel. Jesus has redeemed our God likeness, yet we are still 'trying' to be like Him through our works mentality. Grace brings me face to face with the One I'm made in the image of. Anything less than that or mixture brings back into my unredeemed 'trying' to be like God fallen state.
+Heather Girvan i was going to say the exact same thing. I have never heard any "grace" preacher or have had any encounter with any person in 20 years who has said " hey, I am saved and I can go sin and its ok.. because of grace" never has happened yet.
+Jared Hughes true i always hear that same non sense and havent seen much of it, ive seen a few got completely off the rails but it has nothing to do with grace they were just searching for an excuse to sin, are they even real christians? dont think so
The hyper, [False]grace teachings, is, You can do what you want, because it's not what we don, Or don't do, It's all by grace, But when questioned, they say, "We're not saying that". A well know hyper grace teacher said, "When I sin, I am blessed".Another said he was gay, living with another gay ma, But that's ok, because grace covers all my sins.Another said he had a wife and a mistress, But grace covers me.The Biblical grace teaches us to deny godliness and worldly lust. We should live righteously and godly.But the hyper grace teacher, "We should deny holiness, as it's a work, and being legalistic".So hyper grace teachers DO say it's cool to sin.
GRACE = Gods Riches At Christ's Expense. This is always GOOD. However let any riches we obtain be at Gods expense NOT THE EXPENSE of OTHERS. "Corinthians 7:31 31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away." If we must use the world to survive then do it but dont abuse it. What then is world abuse? It then becomes riches attributed as coming from God at both the expense of Jesus & other's. Yes King David did get Bathsheba as a wife. Yes he had arranged for Uriah to be slain. What we know is that Uriah was loyal to King David to the nth degree. We do not know whether he was gentile believer or not. We do know that David was forgiven (at Christ's expense). We do know that God even sanctified the union which produced the bloodline of Jesus Christ. We also know that God was not PLEASED by this deed and King David reaped a taste of hell on earth from this resulting in several personal disasters. we do know that the matter was placed under the blood and at the end David secured the title "Man after God's Own Heart." I perceive Christians are abusing the world like to the point of insanity today. They are funding the establishment of antichrist through the support of the fake State of Israel. In turn they are getting paid off to keep on promoting the doctrine of Cyrus Scofield who was a world abuser while getting paid for this. Many of them have so much wealth that it cannot even be accounted for by the number of donors with numbers in the BILLIONS of dollars. I do not know just how many believers & unbelievers alike are dying just to promote the Interests of fake Israel. Who then are those that dare to promote their doctrine by the inclusion of it side by side with the Bible itself? Are your study notes equal inspiration to the words of scripture? Cyrus thought so.
Hyper grace is written in the Bible. It is not necessarily a good state of existence but it keeps the carnal or fruitless or legalistic person who has once effectively believed eternally saved when they fall into sin or even push into sin & even an evil lifestyle. God is not pleased with a Christian in a state of hypergrace but it is THE PROVISION that guarantees eternal security. When sin abounds grace super-abounds. Grace by definition is without regard to works. The grace that saves is without regard to works. The grace that keeps is without regard to works. Two rhetorical questions that address hyper-grace. (1) If we sin shall grace abound? Yes. Grace will abound and abound and abound until that one who had once believed DIES. It does not matter the kind of sin that the one who has once believed into Christ while understanding that it is Christ that saves and it is Christ that keeps us saved while our works are irrelevant. (2) Shall we sin in order that grace shall abound. The answer is NO. No sin is justifiable but all sin is paid for. An effective moment of faith is one in which the candidate not merely believes into Christ but understands that their salvation in Christ is secure and as a result declare their works to be irrelevant. The record of works to the point of faith are irrelevant to the salvation the candidate secures. The works after we believe are also irrelevant. I for one would be very uncomfortable receiving a "GOSPEL" that did not somehow include at the point of my salvation that my works were are and shall be irrelevant to the grace received in Christ having believed into Him alone. However at times I get enraged knowing that there are many Christians out there who having once believed and are saved while seeking and finding high places in human government end up destroying their mission fields by supporting policies that genocide both their mission fields and BELIEVERS in them and what am I to say about it other than the grace that keeps them saved keeps abounding. Do not believe into Christ then rejoice in policies that destroy either your fellow believers or the rest of mankind. Do not sell your life to Satan while you retain your salvation alone which is kept without regard to your works.. I would rather choose a harmless but fruitless Christian life than a life that destroys both mission fields and other believers on them. If you cannot do positive good work with your life please at least DO NO HARM.
The call to action as clear fruit of a genuine salvation is a stumbling block for those in this Hyper Grace movement. Any call to live a holy life is immediately interpreted as taking folks back to law. It isn’t. Paul calls believers to action over and over throughout his letters.
First off it is Grace. We are saved by Grace. When we are saved we are eternity secure. You cannot lose salvation but it is not a excuse to sin. You will suffer losses and by sinning you can lose your Eternal reward. You have to live allows you to live a holy life.
Its is a BY Grace, that God sent his Son to die for our sins. Grace does not save you, but by Grace we are saved, the Grace of God. Hyper Grace is a man made theology. Christ and his Apostle all taught the same thing. Hear the World, Believe in Christ, Confess that Christ is the Son of God, Repent or your Sins, Be Baptized for the Remission of your Sins, Walk in Newness of Life and stay faithful until Death, and then you will be rewarded with Eternal Life. No where does scripture say that your are saved by Grace Alone, or that once you have been put on Christ in Baptism, that you cannot sin. We can all sin at any time. Yet those who have put on Christ in Baptism are able to repent, confess our sins to God and ask for Forgiveness. Those who are not covered by Christ Blood ( having been baptized) do not have that option, and God will not hear their prayers. 1 Peter 3:21There is also an anti-type which now saves us-baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.(NKJV)
James 1:1 James writing to the 12 tribes of Israel. Acts 21, James believes Christian-Jews need to keep the Law of Moses! Acts 15 The Law is not for the Gentiles.
First off hyper grace is a false doctrine..its called marcism.. The entire bible is written to the israelites not the heathens..grace is a time frame in order to return back to the laws of YAH..you guys are teaching false..sin is a transgression against the laws grace is extended when you miss the mark on keeping YAHS laws..
Still mysterious... No names tied to "license to sin" preachers. And if they were named, nobody's heard of them. It's Facebook posts and irrelevant fringe beginners. It's also amusing that Joseph prince is presented as a real grace preacher. He's great but not representative of orthodox Pauline grace. He's got some human effort and choices stirred into the soup. Everyone in this video can riff on Romans 3:23...and are incompetent and silent on Romans 3:24. 2 Corinthians 5:19? Oblivious. Romans 5:18? Unaware.... What a joke.
Dear black people from All Nations if your ancestors were slaves then you are an Israelite descendants of the biblical Israelites. Jewish people in the world today and living in Jerusalem are converts they are not from the bloodline of Jacob. Jewish is a religion not a nationality.
You have got hyper-grace completely wrong it's not _"because you are Christian, you are free to act however you want because God loves you"_ instead it's about resting in the Love of Christ. I can't fully explain, it's about letting Christ change you and living without any guilt or shame.
I think you may have 'bought into' the whole error of the hyper-grace people. The problem isn't altogether what is being said, but what is being left out. It's almost as if every imperative in the New Testament has suddenly been negated, because to actually take these commands seriously would whisk us back in time to the Old Covenant. These folks have truth out of balance, which almost always ends up in heresy.
Noah found hyper grace in the sight of the Lord this is a term people who have rejected the atonement of Christ have invented they have went back to there own obeidiance for justification the Jews did that to when they rejected him as there Passover lamb and went back to thiere performance they insulted the spirit of grace and trampled the blood of Christ as insufficient to save them that's what preachers are doing today telling believers that thier disobediance can forfiet there salvation a lot of them are not purposely doing this but it gives no guarantee of salvation if you throw obeidiance into the mix also your literally telling people call on Jesus and be put on probation one last thing Paul said in galations that the law of Moses cannot void the heirs inheritance
GRACE = Gods Riches At Christ's Expense. This is always GOOD. However let any riches we obtain be at Gods expense NOT THE EXPENSE of OTHERS. "Corinthians 7:31 31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away." If we must use the world to survive then do it but dont abuse it. What then is world abuse? It then becomes riches attributed as coming from God at both the expense of Jesus & other's. Yes King David did get Bathsheba as a wife. Yes he had arranged for Uriah to be slain. What we know is that Uriah was loyal to King David to the nth degree. We do not know whether he was gentile believer or not. We do know that David was forgiven (at Christ's expense). We do know that God even sanctified the union which produced the bloodline of Jesus Christ. We also know that God was not PLEASED by this deed and King David reaped a taste of hell on earth from this resulting in several personal disasters. we do know that the matter was placed under the blood and at the end David secured the title "Man after God's Own Heart." I perceive Christians are abusing the world like to the point of insanity today. They are funding the establishment of antichrist through the support of the fake State of Israel. In turn they are getting paid off to keep on promoting the doctrine of Cyrus Scofield who was a world abuser while getting paid for this. Many of them have so much wealth that it cannot even be accounted for by the number of donors with numbers in the BILLIONS of dollars. I do not know just how many believers & unbelievers alike are dying just to promote the Interests of fake Israel. Who then are those that dare to promote their doctrine by the inclusion of it side by side with the Bible itself? Are your study notes equal inspiration to the words of scripture? Cyrus thought so.
Oh my gosh, the question was asked, "what is grace" and with all the theological knowledge that was at that table, no one gave the full definition of grace. Simply put, grace is unmerited, undeserved, unconditional favor from God. It is by which we are saved. Since we can't earn it by what we do, nor can we lose it by what we do or don't do, it is the sovereign act of God to bestowing favor on whom He chooses.
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Simple answer. There Is a woman that is called pastor
Exactly. But , Our new direction, New heart, will be displayed in our daily lives.
thats not the full definition..in fact you need t listen..its much more than unmerited favor
My thoughts exactly 💯 😕 I'm shocked 😲
For anyone who has a problem with this I would ask you this.Why would God give grace (biblical)but not also give you a new heart (biblical)Its not one or the other. Both are by the Holy spirit.Its not about sinless perfection but having a new direction.The idea you can claim to be saved but still be nice and comfy in rebelling against God with no conviction is just not in the bible.Just because its not by your works you are saved ,doesn't mean salvation has no effect.
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Amen
Salvation is by faith and faith alone and it is kept by christ through faith. However, evidence is necessary, the evidence of being born again. The evidence being of the general trajectory of the believers life steering towards God nomatter how many times we fail. The attitude of sinning as much as you want and having no problem or quarrel with it because you know Jesus will forgive you uses Christ as a doormat and is evidence that you are not born again and saved.
The first fruits of being born again is not stopping sinning or proper observance of the law (what I suppose you mean by "works") not at ALL! Here are examples of first fruits - you don't judge people anymore, you stop looking for evidence of salvation in other people, in Him there is no condemnation, you are not seeking evidence of sin or law neither in others nor in yourself because you're dead to sin AND to the law that gives sin its power, you are seeking only HIS look at you rather than how other people look at you, regarding how HE sees other people you believe what they confess about their faith in Him and it becomes easy for you to just receive them as new creations in Him with open arms regardless of their actions, even if it is personally against you. You see them as the righteousness of God in Jesus, therefore judging them actually becomes detestable for you, as it is said that the one who is accusing the righteous is detestable in the eyes of God (and obviously there is no true righteous person other than the one who believes in his heart that Jesus is God and confesses with his mouth that He died for his sins and rose from the dead to declare His righteousness upon him, only God sees the heart but it is for us to receive the confession!), moreover you encourage them to remember their new identity in Christ and to look at Him not only in moments of weakness but also in moments of strength in order to stay humbled by His gracious, non judgemental, fatherly stare, and to always remember HIS unconditional Love that He revealed at the cross and with which He continues to fill us through His Spirit, and most importantly the one fruit of salvation that you should receive and not object to from the beginning of your walk with God is faith - faith in your first love, which IS the first moment when the Grace of God was revealed to you in the person of Jesus Christ and you accepted it confessing your faith to Him, in other words you need to stay FAITHFUL to your first conviction of BEING SAVED IN HIM!! Hebrew 10 - with the FULL assurance that faith brings let us draw near to HIM!! you absolutely don't want to place doubt in anyone's heart about their salvation by pointing them at their lack of what YOU think is godly "works", it is however good to witness about God's works in your OWN life in your OWN experiences in the walk with Him, but only when it is necessary and by rightly emphasizing and pointing that it is HIM and not YOU.
PLEASE my question is that do people NEED license to sin what is actually happening is what happened in Jesus' time . All the law teachers were against Him because what he was teaching were against those law thing but in a way accomplishing the law. Paul was persecuted sake of his teachings . If it was the law he was preaching i doubt he would have been persecuted . It is the Grace message in its fullness ( that those dudes call Hyper-Grace) that Paul was preaching
God is a merciful God, sure He know our weakness, no one is perfect, even after you have repented
does not means you wont sin anymore. Remember God know this, thus His word in the bible said the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. look How Graciuos of Him to say this. Amen, Praise the Lord, Hallelujah.
Please teach how you accept teachings of Jesus like show the other cheeks, love your enemy, how you work to be perfect like Jesus, how to live a life as Jesus commanded, what to do in return for the blessings of Jesus, how to love Jesus as He expected etc; these are really missing from almost every Pastor's sermon and in great need to stop the failing faith among the believers.
O thank Jesus for His grace. Grace is a good name to name your child.
As to the statement that Paul was speaking to the lost, I disagree, he was speaking to and teaching Christians the principles of grace, faith and the hope we have in Christ to counter the judaizers.
The problem is that very few people know what God's complete forgiveness on the cross is for. It is so that anyone who is willing can receive God's Holy Spirit to dwell with them forever and the reason Our God will never leave us is because he will never hold our sins against us. Not so we can freely sin (even though we can), so we can receive everything we need, which is our God's love, acceptance, leading and guiding!
Only the younger man on the end knew what he was talking about. Not once was repentance or discipline mentioned. Repentance is the door through which grace enters our lives and grace is not endless, when we continue to rebel against God's commands He will withdraw His grace, ask Israel when they went into captivity in Babylon.
Angel Dancer The strength of sin is the law. 1 Cor. 15:56. Hence, Grace is enough apart from or being mixed with law. Law is our schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. Galatians 4.
People have to have faith in Jesus to be saved. Grace is one of the characteristics of God. Like God's Love. Do not worship grace.....be thankful for Grace but worship God, worship Jesus , because you are allowed to believe.
Grace reveals you who you are in Christ, Christ reveals how you need faith to access grace to free you from sin (nature) and know longer a slave or to serve sin (the old man) a ID revelation from God of who you truely are in Christ will cause right living. Right believing produces right living only by grace is this possible.
Mapogo Tribe faith to access grace - so your back to works - did Paul have faith on the road to Damascus? Or did Lazarus have faith to raise himself from the dead - stop thinking you have done ANYTHING to deserve the grace you have been given.
I don't know anyone that says " Do what you want". I think alot of people say they do however , most say " once for all salvation, not having to confess every sin; Everytime.
Stopped at 2:22 when I saw a woman is a "Pastor" of a church. My KJV and Scofield Reference Bible says "nah baby nah."
People against grace are mostly those who push Lordship salvation. Which hey teach salvation is a gift but obedience maintains salvation or if someone is a carnal or Luke warm Christian they either lost salvation or were never saved. So it’s work salvation. Even those who teach works prove salvation, how much is enough to prove it? There never is assurance because people go through different seasons in life.
The grace of God is HYPER! End of story!
Thats why Judaizers accused Paul of teaching grace as license to sin, because of hyper grace they(Judaizers) misunderstood him. Unless you are not misunterstood by the legalizers you are not preaching pure grace of God.
Grace is not a person. Just like faith is not a person. That false statement attempts to say an over exaggeration of grace is not possible. However, there is certainly a misuse of grace these days and it has become a doctrine of passivity without responsibility for sin. In Matthew 6 Jesus taught his disciples to pray and ask for forgiveness daily. Daily we live in the Spirit and repent of flesh or sins. That is living in the vine and maturing in Christ.
Why do you repent daily when you're sins are forgiven? maybe just in case you have, are you sin conscious all the time or half the time, do you get weary from all that,i like to see my self as Jesus sees me.💜
I'm sorry but what are they saying actually?
Elementary christianity is what we have as teachers in America. Thank God for his grace. Pun intended.
Here’s what hyper-grace puts on the table:
1.) Easy Believism. A person can be a regenerated person without any change from their constitutive nature. Usually pushes a crossless and bloodless gospel, and omits the bad news. Just goes straight to the Gospel without any priming.
2.) We have no obligation to practice holy living, or obedience.
I’m not into Lordship Salvation, nor Hyper-Grace. I think both have some problems, and the truth is found in the middle. Lordship salvation can easily turn into a barometer by which we evaluate our faith or validity of our salvation, and can take our eyes off of what Jesus did on the cross. Hyper Grace can put us in the mindset that Christianity is a license to sin without consequences.
I'm a HyperGRACER according Romans 5:20b which I experienced personally, THANK YOU JESUS ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡ I hate legalistic repressive religion, which has NOTHING to do with the biblical Gospel of GRACE in the brandNEW Testament, the brandNEW contract with God. You can reject religion, but you can't reject The Invitation of your creator, your Abba-Father Papa-Dios.... Rom.8:15 Gal.4:6 ♡♡♡
He's waiting for ALL His lost daughters and sons. Please, before you die, embrace His Love, come into His Truth, get eternal LIFE in His presence, repent your sins and become clean by The Precious Blood of Jesus Christ.
It's all GRACE, it's God's pure mercy keeping us ALIVE, halleluJAH-LOVE 💚💛❤️🥰😍😘❤️🔥🕊🕊🕊🌍🌏🌎🇱🇰🇩🇪🇬🇷🇳🇱🇨🇭🇺🇦🇷🇺🇯🇲🇮🇱🛐🙏
Thankyou
Satan deceived Adam and Eve in the beginning.he convinced them they didn't have to OBEY God. Satan is still doing the same thing today convincing people they don't have to OBEY. Jesus Christ told his disciples if you love me OBEY my commandments. I will follow Jesus not anyone else
Very true James Miller
To follow commandments means to not sin humans will always sin bud
@@justinambrose4444 John5:39-40 has nothing to do with keeping any commandments. If a man knows what is good and doesn't do it, to him it is sin. We can do whatever we know is good bud
@@Humblestudent04 yeah but even when you think you're not sining you sin it says in Scripture who that thinks he doesn't sins is a foolish man everybody sins... The commandments are dead to the unrighteous the law is for non-believers
@@justinambrose4444 guess then we can't do whatever we know is good according to you're reasoning then. No one has to wilfully sin. Following Jesus has nothing to do with commandments
Oh how Satan loves confusion. Making up new terms (hyper grace) to sow more seeds of doubt that Jesus is enough - sad - modern day Pharisees.
Alternate Man someone needed to say it thank you sir!
Alternate Man Jesus is indeed more than enough.
LMBO! OMG! This just came to me today and i am like, what is hyper grace?! hahahaha
The entire discussion was rendered moot through the inclusion of a Laodicean woman "pastor".
The entire discussion was rendered moot by the ignorance of an apostate religious leadership male and female
Angel Dancer like Paul had you mean?
that applause sounds as real as the mystery straw-men preachers that teach "you are free to act however you want because God loves you." Who are these imaginary preachers that preach it's cool to keep sinning? I haven't heard this preached...
Agreed, i haven't heard any grace teachers preach grace as a licence to sin! In fact the opposite is true. I'm really sick and fed up that every time the Hyper Grace message/teachers is brought up it is always comes with that false accusation. I have never in my 30 years as a Christian met anyone who has used grace as a licence to sin. I have seen many trapped in guilt and condemnation because they haven't encountered grace as the result of the condemnation coming from some pulpits with the emphasis placed on law, performance, principles to get from A - Z and the 24 keys to wherever, when we already have every spiritual blessing in Christ. When are we just going to trust the finished work of Jesus Christ to transform a person? This goes right back to the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve who were already made in the image of God listened to the serpent who told them if they eat of the fruit they would become like God. The same deception the caused the fall in the first place is still at work and has wriggled its way into the gospel. Jesus has redeemed our God likeness, yet we are still 'trying' to be like Him through our works mentality. Grace brings me face to face with the One I'm made in the image of. Anything less than that or mixture brings back into my unredeemed 'trying' to be like God fallen state.
Heather Girvan GREAT COMMENT!!! AMAZINGGRACESALVATIONPROJECT.COM GARY PS AWESOME GRACE MESSAGE THERE!!!
+Heather Girvan i was going to say the exact same thing. I have never heard any "grace" preacher or have had any encounter with any person in 20 years who has said " hey, I am saved and I can go sin and its ok.. because of grace" never has happened yet.
+Jared Hughes true i always hear that same non sense and havent seen much of it, ive seen a few got completely off the rails but it has nothing to do with grace they were just searching for an excuse to sin, are they even real christians? dont think so
The hyper, [False]grace teachings, is, You can do what you want, because it's not what we don, Or don't do, It's all by grace, But when questioned, they say, "We're not saying that". A well know hyper grace teacher said, "When I sin, I am blessed".Another said he was gay, living with another gay ma, But that's ok, because grace covers all my sins.Another said he had a wife and a mistress, But grace covers me.The Biblical grace teaches us to deny godliness and worldly lust. We should live righteously and godly.But the hyper grace teacher, "We should deny holiness, as it's a work, and being legalistic".So hyper grace teachers DO say it's cool to sin.
Hyper grace is a term from God Himself
Who came with that word definition? Why is it even a topic?
GRACE = Gods Riches At Christ's Expense. This is always GOOD. However let any riches we obtain be at Gods expense NOT THE EXPENSE of OTHERS. "Corinthians 7:31 31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away." If we must use the world to survive then do it but dont abuse it. What then is world abuse? It then becomes riches attributed as coming from God at both the expense of Jesus & other's. Yes King David did get Bathsheba as a wife. Yes he had arranged for Uriah to be slain. What we know is that Uriah was loyal to King David to the nth degree. We do not know whether he was gentile believer or not. We do know that David was forgiven (at Christ's expense). We do know that God even sanctified the union which produced the bloodline of Jesus Christ. We also know that God was not PLEASED by this deed and King David reaped a taste of hell on earth from this resulting in several personal disasters. we do know that the matter was placed under the blood and at the end David secured the title "Man after God's Own Heart." I perceive Christians are abusing the world like to the point of insanity today. They are funding the establishment of antichrist through the support of the fake State of Israel. In turn they are getting paid off to keep on promoting the doctrine of Cyrus Scofield who was a world abuser while getting paid for this. Many of them have so much wealth that it cannot even be accounted for by the number of donors with numbers in the BILLIONS of dollars. I do not know just how many believers & unbelievers alike are dying just to promote the Interests of fake Israel. Who then are those that dare to promote their doctrine by the inclusion of it side by side with the Bible itself? Are your study notes equal inspiration to the words of scripture? Cyrus thought so.
Hyper grace is written in the Bible. It is not necessarily a good state of existence but it keeps the carnal or fruitless or legalistic person who has once effectively believed eternally saved when they fall into sin or even push into sin & even an evil lifestyle. God is not pleased with a Christian in a state of hypergrace but it is THE PROVISION that guarantees eternal security. When sin abounds grace super-abounds. Grace by definition is without regard to works. The grace that saves is without regard to works. The grace that keeps is without regard to works. Two rhetorical questions that address hyper-grace. (1) If we sin shall grace abound? Yes. Grace will abound and abound and abound until that one who had once believed DIES. It does not matter the kind of sin that the one who has once believed into Christ while understanding that it is Christ that saves and it is Christ that keeps us saved while our works are irrelevant. (2) Shall we sin in order that grace shall abound. The answer is NO. No sin is justifiable but all sin is paid for. An effective moment of faith is one in which the candidate not merely believes into Christ but understands that their salvation in Christ is secure and as a result declare their works to be irrelevant. The record of works to the point of faith are irrelevant to the salvation the candidate secures. The works after we believe are also irrelevant. I for one would be very uncomfortable receiving a "GOSPEL" that did not somehow include at the point of my salvation that my works were are and shall be irrelevant to the grace received in Christ having believed into Him alone. However at times I get enraged knowing that there are many Christians out there who having once believed and are saved while seeking and finding high places in human government end up destroying their mission fields by supporting policies that genocide both their mission fields and BELIEVERS in them and what am I to say about it other than the grace that keeps them saved keeps abounding. Do not believe into Christ then rejoice in policies that destroy either your fellow believers or the rest of mankind. Do not sell your life to Satan while you retain your salvation alone which is kept without regard to your works.. I would rather choose a harmless but fruitless Christian life than a life that destroys both mission fields and other believers on them. If you cannot do positive good work with your life please at least DO NO HARM.
The call to action as clear fruit of a genuine salvation is a stumbling block for those in this Hyper Grace movement. Any call to live a holy life is immediately interpreted as taking folks back to law.
It isn’t. Paul calls believers to action over and over throughout his letters.
Grace will not allow you to stay in the mud?!?! Anyone can freely go back to the mud--free will allows the choice of unrepentant sin.
I agree.. But I think they are saying that you can't be in grace and go back to the mud.
First off it is Grace. We are saved by Grace. When we are saved we are eternity secure. You cannot lose salvation but it is not a excuse to sin. You will suffer losses and by sinning you can lose your Eternal reward. You have to live allows you to live a holy life.
Its is a BY Grace, that God sent his Son to die for our sins. Grace does not save you, but by Grace we are saved, the Grace of God. Hyper Grace is a man made theology. Christ and his Apostle all taught the same thing. Hear the World, Believe in Christ, Confess that Christ is the Son of God, Repent or your Sins, Be Baptized for the Remission of your Sins, Walk in Newness of Life and stay faithful until Death, and then you will be rewarded with Eternal Life. No where does scripture say that your are saved by Grace Alone, or that once you have been put on Christ in Baptism, that you cannot sin. We can all sin at any time. Yet those who have put on Christ in Baptism are able to repent, confess our sins to God and ask for Forgiveness. Those who are not covered by Christ Blood ( having been baptized) do not have that option, and God will not hear their prayers. 1 Peter 3:21There is also an anti-type which now saves us-baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.(NKJV)
James 1:1 James writing to the 12 tribes of Israel. Acts 21, James believes Christian-Jews need to keep the Law of Moses! Acts 15 The Law is not for the Gentiles.
grace is not a person the bible says whatever it is its the opposite to works
First off hyper grace is a false doctrine..its called marcism..
The entire bible is written to the israelites not the heathens..grace is a time frame in order to return back to the laws of YAH..you guys are teaching false..sin is a transgression against the laws grace is extended when you miss the mark on keeping YAHS laws..
Still mysterious... No names tied to "license to sin" preachers. And if they were named, nobody's heard of them. It's Facebook posts and irrelevant fringe beginners. It's also amusing that Joseph prince is presented as a real grace preacher. He's great but not representative of orthodox Pauline grace. He's got some human effort and choices stirred into the soup. Everyone in this video can riff on Romans 3:23...and are incompetent and silent on Romans 3:24. 2 Corinthians 5:19? Oblivious. Romans 5:18? Unaware.... What a joke.
Dear black people from All Nations if your ancestors were slaves then you are an Israelite descendants of the biblical Israelites. Jewish people in the world today and living in Jerusalem are converts they are not from the bloodline of Jacob. Jewish is a religion not a nationality.
"Grace is a person"?!?!?! No wonder we have the error of hyper-grace in the ignorant church today. The same with "Jesus is my Sabbath"
Ugh grace is a person... Such crap
@Pettie Steyn There is the Father Son and Holy Ghost... Nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus is grace
You have got hyper-grace completely wrong it's not _"because you are Christian, you are free to act however you want because God loves you"_ instead it's about resting in the Love of Christ. I can't fully explain, it's about letting Christ change you and living without any guilt or shame.
J, well said 💜
I think you may have 'bought into' the whole error of the hyper-grace people. The problem isn't altogether what is being said, but what is being left out. It's almost as if every imperative in the New Testament has suddenly been negated, because to actually take these commands seriously would whisk us back in time to the Old Covenant. These folks have truth out of balance, which almost always ends up in heresy.
What about those claiming Christ but not at all willing to let Him change them??🤔
Noah found hyper grace in the sight of the Lord this is a term people who have rejected the atonement of Christ have invented they have went back to there own obeidiance for justification the Jews did that to when they rejected him as there Passover lamb and went back to thiere performance they insulted the spirit of grace and trampled the blood of Christ as insufficient to save them that's what preachers are doing today telling believers that thier disobediance can forfiet there salvation a lot of them are not purposely doing this but it gives no guarantee of salvation if you throw obeidiance into the mix also your literally telling people call on Jesus and be put on probation one last thing Paul said in galations that the law of Moses cannot void the heirs inheritance
GRACE = Gods Riches At Christ's Expense. This is always GOOD. However let any riches we obtain be at Gods expense NOT THE EXPENSE of OTHERS. "Corinthians 7:31 31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away." If we must use the world to survive then do it but dont abuse it. What then is world abuse? It then becomes riches attributed as coming from God at both the expense of Jesus & other's. Yes King David did get Bathsheba as a wife. Yes he had arranged for Uriah to be slain. What we know is that Uriah was loyal to King David to the nth degree. We do not know whether he was gentile believer or not. We do know that David was forgiven (at Christ's expense). We do know that God even sanctified the union which produced the bloodline of Jesus Christ. We also know that God was not PLEASED by this deed and King David reaped a taste of hell on earth from this resulting in several personal disasters. we do know that the matter was placed under the blood and at the end David secured the title "Man after God's Own Heart." I perceive Christians are abusing the world like to the point of insanity today. They are funding the establishment of antichrist through the support of the fake State of Israel. In turn they are getting paid off to keep on promoting the doctrine of Cyrus Scofield who was a world abuser while getting paid for this. Many of them have so much wealth that it cannot even be accounted for by the number of donors with numbers in the BILLIONS of dollars. I do not know just how many believers & unbelievers alike are dying just to promote the Interests of fake Israel. Who then are those that dare to promote their doctrine by the inclusion of it side by side with the Bible itself? Are your study notes equal inspiration to the words of scripture? Cyrus thought so.