XICOY X45 MICRO TURBINE - Unboxing, Test Run and Review - By Gaspar
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- #xicoy #microturbine #turbine Very excited to be able to Unbox, Review and Test the Xicoy X45 Micro Turbine by Gaspar. This Turbine will be mounted in the Mibo Swift Glider that appears in some of the background in the video.
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Engine Specs:
Light version, for installations where space is reduced. Includes color screen (removable) and miniature connecting hub.
Power: 45N - 10lb
Extremely low residual thrust: 1,8N -0,4lb
Exceptional idle to full thrust ratio of 25 times.
Max RPM: 225.000
Minimum RPM: 60.000
Diameter: 59,8 mm
Lenght: 165 mm
Engine weight: 395 g including mounting strap and FOD filter.
Installed weight: 470 g (inc Engine, Pump and leads. Not inclusive of battery.)
Fuel Comsumption: 20 g/min at idle. 145 g/min at full power.
Easily adjustable thrust output in Newton and in Lb from 1,8N to 45N.
Kerosene and diesel fuel + 4% oil
Kerostart fast starting of 25 sec
Inflight Restart technology. Typically half time than Normal Start.
Brushless fuel pump with integrated controller
High speed Brushless starter motor
All new Fully Integrated ecu
Telemetry for Jeti, Futaba, HoTT, MPX, PB Core, Spektrum, JR and FrSky. (Optional module)
Fuel and FOD filters included.
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Can it pull a boat
I’m an aerospace/mechanical engineer and I can only say Wow. I’m around military air vehicles all day. And this micro engine ATP is awesome! I’m nerding out!🤓
HAHA. Awesome to hear Lee. Thanks for watching!
This hobby has come a long way since trying to flip start a cox .049 with a dead carbon/zinc battery.
HA! No kidding!
Yeah but there's nothing like that feeling of cold nitro on a freshly cut wound caused by flipping.
remember i loved the smell of my 0,8 cox
and my neighbour hated the sound.
I have many great childhood memories of flying and running Cox and Testors planes and cars back in the day. I still run them. I can remember on any given Summer day as a kid and hearing the high pitched whine of an
.049 in my neighborhood which meant grabbing a plane or car, hopping on my bike and going to join in on the all day fun with my friends and going home smelling like castor oil. To quote Archie Bunker, "Those were the days!"
@@rba5567 Especially if the prop bit you right on the edge of your finger or thumb and nail. Those were the worst.
I know nothing about this hobby but seeing the rpm’s go over 220,000 is terrifying. Holy moly! I’d be behind a blast shield. Lol! Very cool stuff!
Yea when you think about how fast these things are turning it's crazy!
Wow must be very very well balanced lol
@The Lighter Side Of RC I've heard that the blade tips have to reach a certain speed in order for the engine to work properly, so the small ones have to spin faster due to their blade tips traveling a far shorter distance with each turn.. but I'm no rocket surgeon lol
*225,000 RPM??? Crazy!*
Yea the smaller engines are pretty nuts!
this has more technology than my car engine
Haha. Must be an older car!
I don't think so 😌
I run it in a Freewing Avanti S, I find the X45 very impressive and hassle-free as it should be for everyday RC use.
Awesome! That's a great kit and engine! Thanks for watching!
Same
This is going to sound really forward, sorry, were you born with your hand like that?
Lol. Thanks. I’m not. It has help me become the person I am today!
Gaspar is one of the best manufacturer of turbines got 2 of thease little jems and the after sales are brilliant.I had one problem with the turbine i installed the engine in with the fuel inlet at the top it did start but struggled now turned around starts perfectly every time now
Yea he has done a lot for the turbine community! It wasn’t long ago where so many of the manufacturers were using his Fadec/ECU
I wait for the time this engine becomes a little cheaper. I would love to buy one of this to make a small RC plane. What about a teardown video of this turbine? Thank you very much.
Won't get any cheeper. Maybe if you find a used one. These engines are not user serviceable, factory needs to do any teardown work.
I'd love to get an aft view of the engine (off-axis of course) while it's operating.
My next engine for a review is on route now. I will be sure to get that shot and include it in the video!😎
15:44 This dude has 3 freaking hands!!?
😂😂😂 one right in the middle of my chest
HI! I follow you with great interest🙂
I just bought the x45 to put on the mini 339 sebart.
I didn't quite understand the process you do to the fuel system which takes 30 seconds.
Can you explain it to me? Thank you!!😎😎🖐
Did you check the supplied manual? Tank to UAT. UAT to pump inlet on pump. Output of pump to turbine. Filter goes into the line before the pump as per instructions.
Amazing and beautiful. Do these small turbojet type motors, especially if spinning at up to 220,000 rpm, ever throw blades? Does that result in uncontained destruction?
Definitely happens! That's why you avoid standing beside or behind the turbine for 30 ft.
Hi, you showed the relatively long time for full throttle back to idle. Did you try to adjust this so that the rotation decreases faster?
Not during the test but once installed in an airframe would be a great time to final adjust.
What percentage oil to fuel did you use? Read that is uses 4% for kerosene. I run mostly Swiwin that uses 5% for kerosene. Sort of a hassle to have both 4% & 5% mixtures when I go flying.
5%. I agree it's a hassle. I just always do 5%
There is mysterious high pitched whining coming from engine at full power. It happens only on xicoy engines. It still makes nonsense because turbine and compressor is spinning at so high speed that blade passing frequency for both compressor and turbine are outside of our hearing range. So what could be causing that high pitched whine at full power?
Probably the darn thing spinning at 200K RPM!😂
Quick question Jonathan... When you power up the Xicoy GSU without plugging in the RX power, does your GSU turn on?
Mine doesn't and I want to make sure that's normal...
Strange thing is when I ONLY power up the RX and don't even plug in the GSU battery, it works fine like normal. I know redundancy is great, but I was just curious if that's normal?
Thanks in advance!
When turbine battery is connected but no signal or power from RX then turbine should remain off.
When power is supplied through RX to turbine but no turbine battery is connected things will power on but turbine will not run.
Things will look normal but if you try to initiate start it won't work.
@The Lighter Side Of RC Oooook, that's what's happening. Thanks so much for the empirical knowledge... It's greatly appreciated! 🙂
PS - These really are fantastic units! I just got the new X-95 and the fuel efficiency and lightweight design is a game changer! Cheers! 😊
Did you say in this video that the turbine have a delay with stock settings? What do i need to modify in order to have a fast response?I ask you because i will buy my first turbine x45 and i want to know how to set it correctly? tks,
Pretty much every turbine has adjustable acceleration and Deceleration rates. Some are simple Slow, Medium, Fast, Faster. Some are much more adjustable (ie, Swiwin). with a numerical system. In the case of swiwin, if it accelerates from idle to full throttle at a setting of 25 and takes 4.2 seconds. If you go up to 30 it may accelerate to full in 3.8 seconds.
I don't get flying without using fpv. That would be boring. Fpv would put you right in the cockpit
Straight away, turbine flying in North America with FPV is not allowed.
Great video thank you - question. Is the shaft running on sealed bearings or what is the magic there as I see she can go past 200 000 rpm!
Turbine operates on lubricated bearings. the fuel has oil in it so the bearings are constantly lubricated with fuel/oil
Hey man, i wold love to see that little motor on a x-wing.
how much it cost?
It would be possible to put 4 of them on the back biwing of the x-wing.
Anything is possible! Basically just need to figure out how much push one needs and allow for fuel load.
Japan Radio transmitter, I can see you have been involved in RC for much longer than the new age, quad pilot, “open-tx” ppl (no offence to the newcomers)
LOL. Yea it's not a new thing for me.
I dont think “newcomers” is something u can base on openTX my dad and i fly like over 10 years now and we both fly with openTX.
@@AsTheRavensGather You and your dad fly quads?
All depends how new is a newcomer I guess. From my point of view 10 years is new, that's about when fpv and racing quads took off.
JR radios were quality transmitters from the FM NiCd days, before the time of telemetry and flight stacks, even before brushless motors and lipos
@@srnunan4783 my dad and i build this year a L39 albatros from blackhorse with a kj66. Like 2 years ago we switched to Frsky. I dont fly quad often. Most of the time i fly jets. (Not on my channel😉🙈)
@@AsTheRavensGather fair enough:) i take your point, you just dont see any quad racers holding JR or Jeti or multiplex etc.
so out of interest, you trust these cheap open tx chinese controllers with an expensive model? I do like the idea of the long range TBS dipole gear for big rc, I know the main market is quads but it could be good for aeromodellers too.
This is the second review video I've watched for one of these turbines by a guy missing fingers. How dangerous are these things? Lol
HAHA. Not as dangerous as a spinning Prop!😂
Excellent video & very informative. Thank you for sharing. Certainly wetted my appetite to upgrade to turbine. Seems they've come a long way in terms of usability & performance. ... (uk)
Thanks! Yea the Tech on them and simplicity is wonderful! Compared to 10 years ago, operating these engines now is a breeze!
What is the volume of fuel tank will you put and how much flying time this will give you
Most guys are using about a 1L tank. Flying time is all dependant on throttle control and position.
Sir it's really very interesting product 👍👍 , what is the price???
check the xicoy site.
I Imagine a bronco rc model......
Or p -38 ligthning.....
Wow......!!!!
OH yea! A Bronco with twin Turbo Props! Drool!
How does this compare to efficiency to a diesel engine in terms of thrust x duration per same weight in fuel?
These turbines are very NON Efficient!
From what I understand that period of low rpms after a long run at high rpms is a "cool down" period. Its supposed to do that. Actually, you are supposed to do that prior to complete shut down. But thats cool it does it itself. By cooling it off slowly, it prevents warping and binding between the different metals.
That thing is awsome. Someday Im gonna get me one. Its definetly on the bucket list.
A few questions. 1) how much was it? 2) how loud was it? 3) how fast did it burn fuel?
Hello. They are a blast to fly and so addicting!
This particular one goes for about $1900 USD. It is sooo loud! Ear protection-required! Because this is the smallest size it doesn’t use a lot of fuel. On most aircraft your using a 1.25-1.5 L tank.
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❤It'samazing for making the power generator 😂and use it in a offroad😂
😎
Spins like there's no tomorrow, did I see 225,000 on the digital readout when setting up?
YEA! That what the RPM Maxes out at! Crazy EH! Thats 3750 times a second! 😳
@@thelightersideofrc I tried counting the revs but couldn't keep up.
Sir I'm big fan of you
I know how to book xicoy x45
I am Indian plz answer ?
Thanks for watching! Xicoy website.
nice metal starter unlike jetcat which uses a plastic starter that notorious for sending chunks of plastic through the engine and destroying it
Yea! IT's nice to see those important items built from proper material!
Still not louder than my ps4.
HAHA! Nice
I suddenly have the audacity to mount 4 of these on a razor scooter 😳😳
🤣🤣🤣
For the F100 from laser-Design-Services USA I would like to use the 45 or the in 2023 released 60 from Xicoy. Has anybody an advice for me, which to choose?
bigger is usually better!!!!!
@@thelightersideofrc Thank you very much for your advice. So I‘ll wait till 2023. The engines are so quiet. Like electric drives. Fortunately they are produced in Spain. That’s a country of us Europeans. Hope they have a good endurance, because the PC6 will be used for lifting gliders.
That thing could certainly burn some fingers off, be carful.
LOL. Heck yea.
Make a device that works with petrol fuel under a kg for backpackers
🤔🤓
I would love to put two of these in a model f-22. it probably would be pretty quick
Heck Yea! depends on the size of the plane but it would be a sweet twin setup!
I would love to learn how to fix or maintenance do you know if there any kind of certification i can get to be train on just the UAV/ RC Jet Engine Thrust?
All Self taught
@@thelightersideofrc that good but i feel it important to add those kind of certifications under my resume i dont think they will ever take me seriously if i just tell them im self taught. when i want to get more involved in the UAV industry
That’s orsum. Would not mind a engine like this one day 👍🏻
So fun and so tiny!!!!
Where can I get this engine? I'm currently in South Africa
from xicoy direct.
thrust how much this ??
About 10 lbs.
how much giving thrust this xicoy x45 micro turbine ??
Depends on ambient conditions but about 10 lbs of push.
Hello , i want a favor .. it is not allowed to any one in my country to get a jet or drone or Hel or any other RC equipment ,, i think that if am going to build it (body Kit) from wooden material . so if u can help me by sending me the structure and the design
on any files to make it and to direct me to the right way . thank u
unfortunately I don't have any of that stuff as it's all the manufacture.
@@thelightersideofrc thank you any way for replaying me
I really enjoyed your video, I am new (I mean really new) to turbines so I continue to read and watch and hope one day to take part in turbine flying! Great Job!
Welcome aboard William! It's a pretty unique side of the hobby that is pretty exhilarating! For me it's the sound, smell and sometimes the speed and realism that does it for me! Thanks for watching!
was it reliable sir my dad just cut his finger off on a saw not good
🤔
Would that thing has enough thrust to mount on a dike to give ya a lil boost?
This is one of the smallest turbines so it provides about 10 lbs of push. For something like that a 50 to 80lb turbine would be better.....and more fun!
Brother, what happened to the fingers on your left hand?
Nothing exciting. Born that way.
Awesome engine... my has 12hrs on it so far
The ecu is on the turbine. The little piece with all the connections for the battery etc is the hub.
Nice! You’ve been flying a lot!
@@thelightersideofrc oh yea... it is 42 today so ill see if I can get some flights on it. But also withstand the cold lol.
How much it costs dolar please answer🙏🙏
Check the Xicoy Website.
Very cool...I'll have to keep this one in mind for later on. I'm planning on building a couple of large 3d printed EDF jets that eventually I'd like to convert over to turbine.
Nice! It's a great little engine! because the ECU is held in the turbine the engine could realistically be swapped between aircraft to use. Just get an install kit for each plane then all you have to do is swap the engine.
@@thelightersideofrc Well there won't be an install kit specifically for these planes...but from what I've read there are some turbines designed to be direct drop in replacements for certain sized EDFs. This looks a lot like some of the ones I've been looking at. The printed planes are designed for an 80mm or 90mm EDF...can't remember which specifically and the 3dLabPrint.com website is down for maintenance right now. So this will be similar in build to the foamy EDFs converted to turbine. I'll probably have to insulate the interior but if it can be done in a foamy I should be able to pull it off in a 3d printed plane :)
How long can you fly with this little engine?😳
Depends on how much fuel you have on board but they are very efficient!
How many of these engines for a person to fly ?
This specific one would need many! 10lbs of thrust each.
This product is delivered in india
Yes and no
Please
Check with Xicoy
Would not a real restart simulation have air moving thru the engine as the aircraft was in a glide?
Sure. I don’t think it matters much.
@thelightersideofrc maybe not but if the air flow moving through the turbine was more than what the starter motor moves through the turning then initial combustion may not take place.
I for one am following to see the results.
Either way this is a fun amd exciting channel
Is made in USA??? Is beautiful!!
Xicoy comes from Spain.
Just found this channel and really happy I did!
Wonderful! Glad you found it too! Thanks for watching!
Stick an afterburner attachment at the end. Might be too small to ignite the fuel but it's worth a try.
And make some really cool noise!!!!😎
Wauw crazy fast throttle respons!!
I know!! And that's not crazy fast either.
Footage be pretty wealthy for this hobby
🤔
Hey Jonathan Trying to turn me to the DARK SIDE EH Keep it up and I may turn LOL GREAT video
Haha! 😎 thanks for watching!
What happened to his fingers? I only noticed when he started opening the box.
Shark ate them!😉
what happend to your fingers?
No exciting stories. Born that way.
Thank you.
Great review.
Thanks for watching!
Thumbs up on wife skills alone. Lol.. Good stuff. Love the content. And love the grear wife you have aiding in you doing your thing for us. Excellent video.
Thanks Jerome! I appreciate it!
What happend to your fingers?
Nothing exciting. Born that way.
Please give me your Xicoy x45 🙏
DONE! except it's not mine and I don't own one!😉
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Wow where did you bought the engine..???
Xicoy Website
Hello..Thanks alot for detailed guidance. i hv an AMT Olympus 23kg micro jet engine. the problem is that max thrust is not achieved. i get max 19Kg thrust whereas the RPM is maximum. however, EGT is 100 Deg C lesser...What could b problem? ambient conditions are unchanged.. i donot know why EGT is suddenly reduced by 100 Deg C
If your reaching max RPM for the turbine then the lack of thrust could be Design, Altitude, Temperature Etc. There are lots of factors. at my altitude of 3200 ft ASL we see about a 15% drop in turbine output.
I think you mean one and a half thumbs up
LOL. I see what you did there!😂😉
Are you sure that’s not a extra zero on the rpm? 6 fig rpm is unreal
Prop rpm? Should be about 6000. Engine rpm is nuts!
@@thelightersideofrc I wonder if the blade tips are at supersonic speeds at that rpm?
How much price and how to buy it?
Check the XICOY Website.
Pls buy 1 you transfer in Malaysia okey? Money Dollar ? Rm?
You wassap me pls number fon 0177740534
Feel free to send me an email.
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from were i bought a jet engin
? Dont understand
can anyone tell me if there are micro jet engines in the form of the plane APU without the thrust?
Will look forward to seeing it mounted with the glider, I'm now having images of a RC car with one of these lol .
🤔😂😂😂😂
Same
How much does this jet engine cost?
Find it on xicoy site.
That said 500c temp is that correct?
Yes. Depending on where they run the temp probe 400-800 normal.
How much does it cost
Link in the video description.
Thanks appreciate it
Another great video Jonathan! Your thorough setup and running is great for the newer and older turbine guys. Gaspar really has done a great job with this new series of motors, and maybe I will purchase one in the future. He is a great guy to deal with as I have several JetsMunt engines that he helped develop.
Thanks Brent! Yea it’s nice to see another option in the turbine market! Definitely beautiful stuff! Thanks for checking out the video!😎
What happened to your fingers
Shark attack............
Nope.
Axe incident..........
Nope 👎🏻
Just born that way! 😉😎
Where did you buy this and how much
Xicoy website.
how many calories tho? 08:16
Lol.
What's the reason of flame out between 50-60% throttle? Do I have to change auto ambient control?
Lots of variables unfortunatley. Was this during acceleration to full? Was it just chugging along at 50% throttle then quit?
Yes
When I did take off from the ground then settle to 50% power and when I go full full power engine stops
Maybe check the acceleration settings. Might be set too fast? Hard to tell without seeing and hearing it.
What are your thoughts about the Kingtech k-45?
I will keep this politically correct and simple. My aircraft will not have KT engines in them.
@@thelightersideofrc Could you tell me the reason i mean that i can compare the few brands.
Sir, what happened to the fingers of your left hand?
Hello. Pretty boring answer 😂. I was born that way. Would be more fun if I could say it was a shark attack or an axe 🪓 or something. But it wasn’t
@@thelightersideofrc you are perfect
Thanks 😊
One thing I'm noticing all of your videos and it's kind of bugging me. You never leave it for full throttle for more than a second! I'm actually thinking of some work application for these engines and I would really like to know how they do extended periods at full throttle although to be honest I would detune for reliability but why don't you ever do full throttle for more than 10 seconds???
Great questions! Part of it is right now is i'm trying to keep the neighbours happy. With some of my recent videos of the Swiwin engines I have been testing I have done a full throttle run to check fuel consumption. So those engines have been run for 1-2 min at full throttle.
Reality is that full throttle is the hardest on the engines because there is so much heat generated. They can deal with it but an engine run at full throttle for 50 hours compared to an engine run for 50 hours at mixed throttle would probably be very different internally re wear and tear and probably mostly bearings. If you do de tune then 5,000 - 10,000 rpm that makes a massive difference in power output but also wear and tear.
If you do watch the Swiwin engine tests you will see me talk about the compressor size and rpm of the engine. This is one of the things I really like about the Swiwin lineup of engines. My 170 for example has a larger intake and only turns a max rpm of 114,000 vs competitors engines have a smaller intake and turn 130,000 ish rpm.
Hi I have a question. And I will definitely subscribe. My question is, if I hook one of these up to an electric motor on the shaft, how much electricity could I produce with this? Thanks.
Probably a fair bit but it's not fuel efficient at all.
terminators are gona have a field day killing humans
Hmmmm.
@@thelightersideofrc dudei i doubt you will get a hunter killer model to hover with those.
you gona need some tough servo's and the weight to thrust ratio.. not sure
What is the lifetime of this turbine?
An exact number is unknown. As long as you send it in for it's 25 Hr service intervals it should last a long time.
Hello this enjan is very nice and how to purchase in engine
Check description
@@thelightersideofrc I don't understand please send me app link
Pounds of thrust?
10lbs
Enjoyed the test. Surely though we can't judge the quality until this engine has done some serious hours can we?
Absolutely! I totally agree! Visually it looks great but time is the best tell all!
One of my x45s has 15hours on it, going strong.
15 hours is nothing.
@@TamponTea Yeah, it would barely get you to China. :)
Nice!
Bro how many weight it can carru
depends on the plane.
Can we expect to see how it looks inside this microgas turbine like, for example, how ECU is mounted inside this turbine. Although it was really cool!!
I have covered it in some other turbine videos.
Would love to see a turboshaft for helicopters based on this. I know that turbines are basically the bottom tier for performance with helicopters but that's not the point of turbine helis.
Yea definitely more for the scale flight with Heli's. I know Xicoy is working on and may have released the heli engine!
They do. A heli and turboprop version.
Is it fuel run or electrically run
JET FUEL!