Many have been waiting for this! It was Fun and Scary to fire this outstanding engine up and test it out! It will be going in the Sebart PC-21 Very soon! Thanks for watching!
Wow. I remember when rc turbine engines were new and amazing. They still are amazing, but you get what I’m saying. An RC turboprop is SO cool and will bring another bit of realism to a lot of these models.
If someone from the 1940's watched this they would think it was some kind sci fi fantasy thing, watching hd color film on a small handheld electronic device of someone ordering a turbo prop engine and having it delivered to thier house, I want to be alive in 80 years to see the advancement in tech.
I mean... 80 years later It's not sci-fi, it's "near" future When i'm in my 80s i have no doubt there will be technologies that i would have only thought to be from sci fi
That is insanely crazy I just love the power it puts out .for a engine that small I am just in press and all most up against the wall .And the test bench is fantastic be safe with the fans. Bless you're skills
Thanks so much for your channel. Love your tests and how scientific they are; I am trying to find a small to mid size turbine to add to an Electric Vehicle to be used as a 'range extender' and assist in charging batteries - especially as it is a KITT from Knight Rider and he used a "turbine" as well! ;) Maybe one day I will get it working.
@@thelightersideofrc is it possible to have an after burner on such turboprops?? I know turboshaft engines with the propeller in the front and the exhaust in the rear like the thunderscreech But is it possible to add 2 afterburner one on the left and one on the right in this engine
Well that was satisfying. Thanks for risking your life for my entertainment. I’ve wanted a turbine to run in my garage for years. Any suggestions on where to find something used or damaged?
Very exciting. You may use a Raspberry Pi board with a camera to allow you safely read difficult data. Dronebot, Explaining Computers, both on RUclips, have done great work on this topic.
It would be cool if somebody would put something like this in a non-aero application (boat, tank(M1!)) obviously some sort of transmission would need to be fabricated. I have zero fab experience/tooling. My curse is a very active imagination. Keep up the good work, fun stuff!
Would this be a good candidate for the PC-6 120". It looks like it was made for the PC-6. Beautiful engine and the power is quite impressive for its size.
Is the gear box rated only in a “pull” configuration or can the Prop be reversed to have a “push” configuration on your test bench. Then change the way the scale is connected. Then it’s pulling all the exhaust gas and everything else being whipped up , away from the test bench , electronics and operator. Or instead of a prop, setup a mini dynamometer using a generator or alternator as the variable load.
I am considering a CARF SF240 TP Marchetti project. Prop advised to be a Biela 24x13 3 blades. Do you think the Xicoy would be a good fit ? The kit is said to be designed for a SPT5 but I very much like the framework on the Xicoy.
Best thing to do is take a look at the power figures between the various engines. If the X45TP is within the range then it would be a solid choice! I think this specific engine is up to the 11 ish hour range and still working beautifully in Steves PC-21
RUclips occasionally sends me a gem. This was it. Years ago I saw a kit for turbines, but for boats with twin Z-drives. Is there any way to make this a pusher setup? Or does it have to be that way for packaging or cooling?
Good question. i'm not familiar with the boat side but i'm sure it could be rigged up with something. Cooling is key. depending on the model shaft rpm would be 6000 to 8000 range.
Yea it is small to have set to max power. Problem with the Sebart pc21 is ground clearance. The vario 5 blade will be a nice touch for this combo I think.
Yea and that wasn't even close to max RPM. I bumped it up to 225K but for the first hour your supposed to keep it under 200k. It was just slightly over. I think with the right prop and once the Turbine RPM is upped we should easily get upper 30's maybe even hit the 40 mark!
One, Tether the bench to something, like a car. Two, have a test bench with a wider stance. You could torque that bench over. That’s a 7.5 hp motor! That’s like having a 50cc engine on there.
At those RPM's I will be shocked if the gearbox holds up without some sort of cooling. I am hearing things in the audio that sound like gearbox noise as well, and if that's the case I wouldn't expect many flights out of that part. The rest of the motor seems well built, it starts quickly (you might be going to full temps a little quickly for my taste honestly), and the throttle response is incredible. Overall this seems like a great product that might need a better gearbox.
Keep in mind with these turbo props that the gear box is cooled and lubricated with fuel. On the larger models, the fuel runs through the gear box prior to going in the engine reducing heat. This new generation of Turbo Props have been amazing. This video was from a couple years ago and this exact turbo prop now has over 15 ish hours on it and still working great!
I'm looking for a kit to build for use with this turbine. Did you happen to make any runs with the turbine around the lowest 2kW power setting? I'm curious if I can use it with a 16-10 three blade prop in a Top Flite T34 which has a 80in wingspan (and flies quite well with a 20-25cc engine putting out about 2.0kW). Can't seem to find any other kit with a tricycle landing gear.
Hello Fazeel. Unfortunately no. Didn’t do any low power runs. If you do a bit of digging on the web you may be able to find some low power prop combo info. Unfortunately with this engine being so new there is not a lot of info floating around
Just found your channel. Very informative. I've been thinking of dipping my toe into the turbine space for a few years now. I'm in Canada. Do you have any idea where the best place to find one of these X45's?
Thanks William! Where are you located? I generally order right from the factory. There is a U.S. fellow but his orders are generally shipped right from the factory
Very dumb question, but I’m about to hook one of these to a generator head…. Do I need an RC remote or is there another wired throttle control I can get?
Just discovered this channel. Looks interesting, I fly drones and fixed wing slope soarers. No engines yet since as a kid they were expensive and smelly and covered in fuel and what-not. 👍🇬🇧 What happened to your left hand?
@@thelightersideofrc I can’t have been the first person to connect (1) powerful turbines and turboprops and missing fingers (1) and come to the conclusion of: “related accident” (3) I appreciate your directness and I love your channel. ❤️👍
@@thelightersideofrc I’m thinking like a jet ski solar raft to tow boats on autopilot in the ocean. Jet ski in the front the 4 solar panels in the back.
Question : I would like to make an Allison engine for a C130/p3 Orion (constant speed variable pitch) Turbo prop , Is it possible? No side exhaust, Straight exhaust,4 blade variable pitch blade.
wanna try diy simple turbine, if you have a lathe or a cnc mill, tesla turbine centrifugal compressor center-in rim-out jet, want to test that when I get my first engine made
Hey Sir. I was in the U.S Marine Corps. Got a question. Can you put this engine in a helicopter? I don't know to much about RC engines. Sorry if this is a dumb question. Great video. This is the first time watching your channel.
Hey James. Not a dumb question at all. Xicoy makes this same configuration for a Heli setup. Instead of the shaft coming straight out it makes a 90 degree bent up. If you look at the box during the first part of the video the Heli engine is pictured there. Thanks for watching 😎
@@jamesmaroon6161 hi! For future reference, turboprop is for airplanes, _turboshaft_ is for helos! Same type of engine, just different type of power take off. Hope this was useful!
Full scale yes. In models probably possible but not easily. We will be using a variable pitch prop on the install on the. PC21 but it will be fixed variable not in flight variable.
Please test this engine with a 5 blade prop as the PC-21 comes with a five blade propeller. I would like to know the actual thrust with a 5 blade prop not for RC planes but for another type of air vehicle. Thanks
@@thelightersideofrc Diesel would work too. Thanks. Wondering how much power you could get out of it as a generator since they are about twice as efficient as any internal combustion engine.
Many have been waiting for this! It was Fun and Scary to fire this outstanding engine up and test it out! It will be going in the Sebart PC-21 Very soon! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Jonathan, much appreciated.
Wow. I remember when rc turbine engines were new and amazing. They still are amazing, but you get what I’m saying. An RC turboprop is SO cool and will bring another bit of realism to a lot of these models.
Oh I totally get it John! The technology now is so dang cool! makes the hobby more fun!
Wow!!! That will be great to have on the front of the PC, it will fly it with authority
Another great review Jonathan! Thanks
Thanks Steve.
If someone from the 1940's watched this they would think it was some kind sci fi fantasy thing, watching hd color film on a small handheld electronic device of someone ordering a turbo prop engine and having it delivered to thier house, I want to be alive in 80 years to see the advancement in tech.
HAHA. No kidding! Mind Blown!
I mean... 80 years later
It's not sci-fi, it's "near" future
When i'm in my 80s i have no doubt there will be technologies that i would have only thought to be from sci fi
Winston Churchill watching RUclips videos on his iPhone 16 pro.
So do I, but I'd have to be able to live to 150.
Gas turbine engines were around before 1940 and the technology hasn't changed a lot. They just didn't make tiny ones that I know of.
A ton of things going on during that test run up. Amazing piece of technology! Loved the walk through and overview! Keep them coming!
Thank you David! Yea adding that prop on the front adds lots of extra stuff going on! Thanks for watching!
That is insanely crazy I just love the power it puts out .for a engine that small I am just in press and all most up against the wall .And the test bench is fantastic be safe with the fans. Bless you're skills
Thanks Elvin! Yea it's a stunning piece of equipment!
Very impressive turbo-prop engine. Some amazing technology, thanks for creating this video.
You bet! Thanks for watching!
What a test run!!! Very nice! Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for your channel. Love your tests and how scientific they are; I am trying to find a small to mid size turbine to add to an Electric Vehicle to be used as a 'range extender' and assist in charging batteries - especially as it is a KITT from Knight Rider and he used a "turbine" as well! ;) Maybe one day I will get it working.
Thanks Richard! I appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching!
John ! Just got my very first turbine a Swiwin 60b going to start off with a Foamy . Thanks for the tips !
Awesome! Enjoy 😎
What a response to full power! Very impressive.
Scary!
This is the coolest object of the quarter for me. Right behind elemental phosphorous distillation apparatus.
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This is the content I long for
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The new "flying bench" by Jonathan. Now, you can fly with Sir Bronson" in space !!! Hi my friend
Haha. Totally! 😂😂
@@thelightersideofrc is it possible to have an after burner on such turboprops??
I know turboshaft engines with the propeller in the front and the exhaust in the rear like the thunderscreech
But is it possible to add 2 afterburner one on the left and one on the right in this engine
I really need a turbine something in the Hangar, maybe not even stick it in a plane. Just have some me time with power. Great video 👍🏻
Haha. Fun to just play with! Thanks 😊
I agreed
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Cool test bench with the strain gage.
Thanks 😊
This is what I'm going to buy for my living room fan
Haha. Just make sure to keep fingers away!😂
Well that was satisfying. Thanks for risking your life for my entertainment. I’ve wanted a turbine to run in my garage for years. Any suggestions on where to find something used or damaged?
HAHA. Thanks Ryan. Glad I could help😂. Can find good deals on stuff at RCGroups Board.
Very nice video. You've earned yourself a sub
Thanks Jaden😎
Very exciting. You may use a Raspberry Pi board with a camera to allow you safely read difficult data. Dronebot, Explaining Computers,
both on RUclips, have done great work on this topic.
Thanks for the tip!
It would be cool if somebody would put something like this in a non-aero application (boat, tank(M1!)) obviously some sort of transmission would need to be fabricated. I have zero fab experience/tooling. My curse is a very active imagination. Keep up the good work, fun stuff!
That would be cool! It's always fun to see what people come up with and what can be created! Thanks for checking things out!
You're doing great and congratulations on your perfect testing
Thank you!
This is epic! So cool man.
Thanks!😊
Игорь, только спокойствие!)))
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Glad to see the shop videos coming back. Not gonna lie, I don’t really watch the flying videos because they are a dime a dozen.
Thanks for the input and I hear you and agree! 😎
Awesome video
This thing is wicked
Thanks!😊
I think I'll keep my RC cars and my fingers.
Haha. Respect the prop!!!
Seems very responsive spool up time. Impressed.
It's a great little engine! First flight video out tomorrow!
Would this be a good candidate for the PC-6 120". It looks like it was made for the PC-6. Beautiful engine and the power is quite impressive for its size.
Great option for the pc6! You would want to get the other model for slower prop speed! It’s a powerhouse!
Is the gear box rated only in a “pull” configuration or can the Prop be reversed to have a “push” configuration on your test bench. Then change the way the scale is connected. Then it’s pulling all the exhaust gas and everything else being whipped up , away from the test bench , electronics and operator. Or instead of a prop, setup a mini dynamometer using a generator or alternator as the variable load.
That's a great question! My assumption would be only a pull configuration as the bearings will be designed for this type of load.
I am considering a CARF SF240 TP Marchetti project. Prop advised to be a Biela 24x13 3 blades. Do you think the Xicoy would be a good fit ? The kit is said to be designed for a SPT5 but I very much like the framework on the Xicoy.
Best thing to do is take a look at the power figures between the various engines. If the X45TP is within the range then it would be a solid choice! I think this specific engine is up to the 11 ish hour range and still working beautifully in Steves PC-21
wow - I want that Snowbirds Tutor! haha
Well….. everything is for sale for the right price!
@@thelightersideofrc hahaha 😆 what's the right price
Lol. If you are interested shoot me an email. Price one out and make me an offer!
I would put a variable pitch contra prop setup on it. Antonov An-22 or 70 style
Thanks! Yea we have a 5 blade variable for it.
@@thelightersideofrc Counter-rotating?
Bravo..............wow .......craftsman clever........cheers
Thanks.
The 50-100% throttle response is impressive!
For sure!
great video thank you
Thanks for watching 😎
You need a harbor freight sand blasting cabinet to use as a test bench for these things. Just change the plexiglass out for lexan.
Good idea!
Why did you weigh the prop wrench as total unit weight, and disregard the prop? Weight and balance depends on this units weight.
No Clue! This video was also from 3-4 years ago!
Nice job, I need to get plane I can put that turbine in.
You will be very impressed with this unit!
RUclips occasionally sends me a gem. This was it.
Years ago I saw a kit for turbines, but for boats with twin Z-drives.
Is there any way to make this a pusher setup? Or does it have to be that way for packaging or cooling?
Good question. i'm not familiar with the boat side but i'm sure it could be rigged up with something. Cooling is key. depending on the model shaft rpm would be 6000 to 8000 range.
Nice video report.
Thanks 😊
I have a 4 blade 25x12 propeller on my JetCat SPT 5. I think the 20x12 is definitely too small :D.
But it was again a great video.
Yea it is small to have set to max power. Problem with the Sebart pc21 is ground clearance. The vario 5 blade will be a nice touch for this combo I think.
I was wondering if he calculated tip speed on that prop choice. Sounded odd at hi rpm but maybe it was just the echo from being in a garage.
Yea the camera and mic’s don’t like turbines once they spool up. Never an accurate representation of the actual sound.
Hi Jonathan,
I saw 30.0 lbs thrust at the 20:15 mark, but don't know the rpm. You and Katie stay safe.
Yea and that wasn't even close to max RPM. I bumped it up to 225K but for the first hour your supposed to keep it under 200k. It was just slightly over. I think with the right prop and once the Turbine RPM is upped we should easily get upper 30's maybe even hit the 40 mark!
Well that’s just insane
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One, Tether the bench to something, like a car. Two, have a test bench with a wider stance. You could torque that bench over. That’s a 7.5 hp motor! That’s like having a 50cc engine on there.
Agreed! Scary stuff! 😎
At those RPM's I will be shocked if the gearbox holds up without some sort of cooling. I am hearing things in the audio that sound like gearbox noise as well, and if that's the case I wouldn't expect many flights out of that part. The rest of the motor seems well built, it starts quickly (you might be going to full temps a little quickly for my taste honestly), and the throttle response is incredible. Overall this seems like a great product that might need a better gearbox.
Keep in mind with these turbo props that the gear box is cooled and lubricated with fuel. On the larger models, the fuel runs through the gear box prior to going in the engine reducing heat. This new generation of Turbo Props have been amazing. This video was from a couple years ago and this exact turbo prop now has over 15 ish hours on it and still working great!
I just installed one of these on my drill!
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Cool pls where can I order these from ??? I seriously need it
Thanks. Check out the Xicoy website
How is the center section balanced
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This might be a dumb question but I am as new as it gets. With a different prop, could this be set up as a pusher?
I don't think the bearing system is designed for that setup.
I'm looking for a kit to build for use with this turbine. Did you happen to make any runs with the turbine around the lowest 2kW power setting? I'm curious if I can use it with a 16-10 three blade prop in a Top Flite T34 which has a 80in wingspan (and flies quite well with a 20-25cc engine putting out about 2.0kW). Can't seem to find any other kit with a tricycle landing gear.
Hello Fazeel. Unfortunately no. Didn’t do any low power runs. If you do a bit of digging on the web you may be able to find some low power prop combo info. Unfortunately with this engine being so new there is not a lot of info floating around
Very cool!
Thanks David.
Just found your channel. Very informative. I've been thinking of dipping my toe into the turbine space for a few years now. I'm in Canada. Do you have any idea where the best place to find one of these X45's?
Thanks William! Where are you located? I generally order right from the factory. There is a U.S. fellow but his orders are generally shipped right from the factory
@@thelightersideofrc Edmonton AB
Awesome
Thanks!
On throttle what’s the delay from movements to engine throttle settings
Sorry can’t remember what settings were at. The throttle response is quick!
That would be awesome for a boat.
Heck yea!!!
I want that bench bolted to the ground. Sketchy.
Oh! ME TOO! 😳
Showed this to my dad and he’s now trying to figure out building an AC-130J with 6 blade variable pitch propellers…
Go figure… forever Air Force.
HAHA. Of course he is! Sounds like a perfect project!
*Let the Sunshine In...*
thanks
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Very dumb question, but I’m about to hook one of these to a generator head…. Do I need an RC remote or is there another wired throttle control I can get?
You can also get a throttle channel box. I’ve seen them on Dreamworks website
@@thelightersideofrc awesome thank you
The neighbor across the street would like to thank you for blowing all the leaves off of his lawn.
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Thank you very much for the Arabic translation
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@@thelightersideofrc Why is the subtitles missing from the video now?😭😭
way better, or much better
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Hi I am wondering if this engine was the low reduction or high reduction cheers
Hello Wes. It is the higher RPM version.
LOL Reaction time on that ECU is as slow as the people in UK lol
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That's scary bad ass
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could reverse prop help? what is the consumption meant to be? what is the cost?
It’s pretty fuel efficient for the power your getting from it. Best to check the Xicoy website
Just discovered this channel. Looks interesting, I fly drones and fixed wing slope soarers. No engines yet since as a kid they were expensive and smelly and covered in fuel and what-not. 👍🇬🇧 What happened to your left hand?
Glad you found the channel and thanks for watching! I was born that way. Probably easier as I have never known otherwise!
@@thelightersideofrc I can’t have been the first person to connect (1) powerful turbines and turboprops and missing fingers (1) and come to the conclusion of: “related accident” (3) I appreciate your directness and I love your channel. ❤️👍
That is really cool for what it is…
Pratt & Whitney is jealous….
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You could have kept the phone high outside the air from the prop and used the zoom function from above.
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Do they have an engine that could be used for boats.
For shaft driven, no.
@@thelightersideofrc I’m thinking like a jet ski solar raft to tow boats on autopilot in the ocean. Jet ski in the front the 4 solar panels in the back.
There is no reason you couldn't use that engine. It has shaft power out the front obviously.
What would be the results of a turbo prop in a cesna 150
Not sure but any plane is cooler with a turbo prop!!!😎
An AC130 needs to be built
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Question : I would like to make an Allison engine for a C130/p3 Orion (constant speed variable pitch) Turbo prop , Is it possible? No side exhaust,
Straight exhaust,4 blade variable pitch blade.
I’m sure it’s possible. Anything is possible with enough $$$
Tell me what do they cost then and can i attach a generator on them ronadam
Check the xicoy website!
How do you make the bearings last on an RC boat?
Not sure.
I want to see a Q-400 scale airplane for some reason.😊
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Camo Crocs FTW!
YEA!!!!!😎😊
wanna try diy simple turbine, if you have a lathe or a cnc mill, tesla turbine centrifugal compressor center-in rim-out jet, want to test that when I get my first engine made
Sounds like a cool project! Always up for testing cool stuff!
@@thelightersideofrc same for electric sling jet turbine, using aluminium-air batteries, same energy density as gasoline
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Does anyone know why the X45 tp is temporary out of production?
Check with Xicoy but they have their reasons.
Who made that test bench?
My friend Joe who does all my 3D printing
Hello, is there a US based Xicoy dealer where I can buy one of these?
AeroPanda.
@@thelightersideofrc thank you. It seems it’s hit or miss on stock( on the internet searches). Do you know if they are available to ship?
Does it run on nat gas thinking generators?
No. only diesel, kerosene or jet A. Run's like a 2 stroke so fuel is used for lubrication.
Has the prop been balanced? If not whoo danger will Robinson
Yes.
I thought the prop was supposed to cant to the right a couple degrees?
It’s built into the mount in the aircraft
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per convence als mes exigents
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I Wana put one of those on an ultralight
DO IT!!!!!
Always use your checklist. 😷
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wow!!!!
Thanks 😊. Love the name!😂
Hey Sir. I was in the U.S Marine Corps. Got a question. Can you put this engine in a helicopter? I don't know to much about RC engines. Sorry if this is a dumb question. Great video. This is the first time watching your channel.
Hey James. Not a dumb question at all. Xicoy makes this same configuration for a Heli setup. Instead of the shaft coming straight out it makes a 90 degree bent up. If you look at the box during the first part of the video the Heli engine is pictured there. Thanks for watching 😎
@@thelightersideofrc Thank you SO much. I will subscribe to your channel.
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@@jamesmaroon6161 hi! For future reference, turboprop is for airplanes, _turboshaft_ is for helos! Same type of engine, just different type of power take off. Hope this was useful!
arent turbo prop supposed to have variable pitch blade?
Full scale yes. In models probably possible but not easily. We will be using a variable pitch prop on the install on the. PC21 but it will be fixed variable not in flight variable.
Brilliant - now we know why testers sit in a streamlined cell with a windscreen and maybe tail feathers and wings!!! lol
Haha 😂
Please test this engine with a 5 blade prop as the PC-21 comes with a five blade propeller. I would like to know the actual thrust with a 5 blade prop not for RC planes but for another type of air vehicle. Thanks
Engine is currently mounted in the PC21 with a vario 5 blade prop and it's got gobs of power!
@@thelightersideofrc Do you have actual thrust values with the 5 blade prop?
Coolest
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Are you canadain?
Yea eh!
Could this thing run on regular gasoline?
No. Jet A/Kerosene or Diesel.
@@thelightersideofrc Diesel would work too. Thanks. Wondering how much power you could get out of it as a generator since they are about twice as efficient as any internal combustion engine.
can i get this in my lawn mower?
Why ?
🤔 Maybe if your going for the most expensive lawn mower ever!
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@@thelightersideofrc 💝💝
That is just a hub, the ECU is on the motor and the hub is just a connection point
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