WOW!!!!!! THANKS, VERY MUCH, TIM, FO "SHARING" THIS WONDERFUL TURBINE ENGINE WITH US!! YOU COULD BUILD A COMPOSITE "BD5J" (FULL SIZE!) AND ADD 3 MORE OF THESE ENJINES, AND FLY IT FOR REAL!!!!!!... AS AN "ULTRALIGHT"....
I bought one not long after they became available and it has proved a reliable starter and runner. I initially had it in a Sebart Mini Avanti where it replaced a Jetcat P20SE which lacked the thrust for good grass take offs. I have tuned the thrust down to 35N instead of 45N as Sebart warns that 45N is a bit too much for the airframe. Engine now fitted to a Sebart L39 Albatross waiting to be flown. The part you are calling the ECU is just a connector, the ECU is actually inside the front of the turbine with the 2 solenoid valves for fuel. I have never used a bubble trap with my engine, a felt clunk in the main tank will keep air out of the fuel pipe. (I do use one on larger models where there is more room in the fuselage.) I have 4 running turbines at the moment and only one has a stop valve in the fuel supply, this is because only one engine came with the valve. The stop valve only comes in if the solenoid valves fail when refueling, quite a low probability. Excess fuel inside the engine normally happens after a failed start when the main fuel flow has started but not ignited. If you think there is fuel in the engine tilt it forward so it comes out of the intake, the internal design stops it coming out of the exhaust. I would recommend that you put the engine stop on a switch if you can to stop the need to scroll through the trim from one end to the other. Also set up your throttle failsafe setting to go below the normal endpoint otherwise the engine failsafe doesn't cut in properly. You may neded to set the throttle endpoints slightly higher than normal to allow this (relearn the setting in the ECU afterwards). I think the ECU failsafe is set to a 2 second delay to allow for a short loss of signal, if your radio is set to engine stop position for failsafe it will stop immediately, the ground display will then show it as engine stopped not failsafe. Good luck with your model and good flying just be prepared for a short delay in throttling up and down compared to i.c. or electric (much less delay now compared to earlier jets) and always keep power on on landing approach to allow for giving it power on an overshoot. Only cut to idle when the approach is just right as the delay in spooling up from idle can be too long if you need to go around, good flaps help here.
I've been complaining that they don't separate the turbine from the impeller for a long time now. Electric compressor to gas generator. I know that's at least one company doing it at full scale. Should be a lot easier to do it in small scale. Then even with a flameout you will have some thrust, and lag would be negligible.
@jtjames79 I can only see disadvantages for this setup, with a gas turbine the only power needs are to spin it up to speed while starting then powering the fuel pump while running. A 2200 mAh battery will last for several runs on one charge. Your idea will need a larger battery to constantly run the compressor and it would need recharged every run. Also why have a turbine? it is doing nothing if not driving the compressor. Basically you have an electric ducted fan with a burner behind it. This system was tried in the earlier days of full sized aircraft but went nowhere, especially when the first proper turbines were developed.
@@JimGDMAC I was going to explain, but instead you should try answering your own questions. You are asking the right questions, but I'm not your google. If you want the details you will look them up.
I would guess because its so damn small lol. The efficiency has to be terrible at such small scales. And that sound from the compressor and turbine 😳 Looking at the audio when it throttles up the whistle in the audio literally shoots up above 20 kHz pretty much immediately. As a bonus at 18:51 I think I got five root canals just from that part alone. Cool AF but damn better bring lots of jugs of fuel and ear protection!
What many do not know is that every X number of hours of use it needs to be rebuilt which is usually a trip back to the factory. Just like a full size turbojet or even a high bypass turbine engine they need to be removed from the airframe and sent in for a full tear down and rebuild as per FAA or what the manufacture requires. Check with the manufacture to see what the TBM is recommended for these little beasts.
@@tdogrc Just read the user manual and TBH doesn't get a mention other than a para about activities that may reduce the TBH. That seems odd, as it would be nice to know how long and how much it will cost.
I had the Vo-Tech make the metal parts of my tiny jet engine. I made the Ceramic parts in the kiln in my art department. When my physics teacher helped me test it. It tore loose from the metal stand and tore off the 1/2 inch metal bolts and went down the parking lot. He gave me an A and it was so cool we looked up the stress break for the bolts and it was close to 5K breaking point. I wanted to build the Ironman suit back in 1979 but had to wait until the computer system could keep track of everything.
The air thing is real . We lit up my Dumas Nitro methane RC hydro model in our rental bathtub. The thing was loud , pushed water up wall , across ceiling, and then down past faucet handles for a complete circle of water as we all got gut punched as Air left the bathroom. We left the one guy holding on as it wound up like a weed whacker running out of fuel. Was epic , and then T-mobile used that same boat (full size ) in a swimming pool as I became a boat racer at 52 . This engine would be perfect for a scale model of a water speed record hull I recently tested fuel bladders for . Will be a working display. The Hustler by Lee Taylor had a 10 k hp Turbine from a Cutless Jet and did 275 mph . A 1/8 th scale of the 30’ wood / aluminum hull would be perfect for our Hydro and Raceboat Museum in Kent Wa. Cool video. The rpm numbers are nuts .
Awesome , I remember seeing one of the first jets fired up at Sandown park show some 35 years ago, 30 deep crowd around it , so never able to get close .
i had one of these mounted to a board with wheels and a sponge to sit on. it needed a push to get me going but it worked and i was going down the street , once it gets going , it feels like a person pushing you from behind, its powerful be careful. there is also a danger element to this, exploding, shrapnel, flames etc... 👍
225000 rpm, Whittles jet ran up to 17500 rpm (they tweaked it up a bit so the aircraft could get airborne) and prop planes were so well developed by then that they outperformed the very early jets
That’s incredible that they can build a Jet Engine that small. I would have thought that it would have more than 10Lbs of Thrust. Really nice little unit. I enjoyed the Video. Subscribed.👍👍
Would be interesting to set up a jig and using some thing like a luggage scale where the jig can be free floating on rails or hanging and the luggage scale attached to the jig and stationary surface...firing up the engine would act against the scale which in turn would give us how many pounds of force being generated place that fuel tank near the scale and we could visually measure consumption along side the force... You all know what luggage scales i am talking about right? The ones with attachments, usually carabiners, that you attach 1 side to the luggage and the opposite. If light enough you hold it or attach the other end so that it hangs. The scale is in between measuring the weight...now re purpose it laying it horizontally. One end to a solid stationary structure. The other end to whatever the engine will be mounted to- this has to have the ability, with ease to move- minimally, but, enough for the scale to be able to make its measurements... The luggage now being the engine...before the force measured was gravity. + contents within luggage. Now the output of the engine- would love to see this done- maybe as a series involving a number of engines- were the videos show us the fuel consumption/ efficiency and how powerful each is- do they produce the advertised figures? Incorporate a thermal camera- how hot do they get? Consumption...how much does it cost to run the different ones and compare against the others.
Goto 17:40 if you're in a rush to see it spin-up. The full video is quite detailed. I think everybody should send in $1.00. I can't afford it however. Just saying
@@tdogrc The last HF radio I bought was also a bit expensive for me also $1300 dollars, my guns run anywhere from about $500 to several thousands. The flight hobby is expensive also, my friend that owns the local model shop wanted $3K for a damaged turbine and $6K for a new one, but I'm sure the latest Chinese model can be had at reasonable prices. Good video by the way.
tdogrc@@tdogrcwith the governments hatred of private people having access to firearms there has been a gun grab going on around the country and lots of licence holders have had a knock on the door to find Mr plod asking for all your toys for the flimsy reasons of whatever they can come up with at the time. Most people are not even charged with any crime and have to fight through the courts to have them returned. This means it's a buyers market and all the stuff you've invested in is almost being given away at auctions. The gun shops are crammed with unsold stock.
@@cedhome7945The weak job market isn't providing an excess of cash flow either. Gun sales from fewer venders is Joe Biden's evil doing. Look forward to more illegal gun laws before the tyrant leaves office.
@@tdogrc Too expensive for me, and I learned about 40 years ago that I just can't put my head inside an RC plane (well it was an RC helicopter actually) and fly it. So I gave up on RC stuff. But I hope that someone does make a big A-10 with a pair of these. That would be really cool!
@@Quakeboy02 At 67 I think it's easier than you think. Here in the usa you can still find used ultralight airplanes cheaper than this engine and I love flying those even more. You can get your head inside an ultralight.😊
That was an insanely smooth startup with no visible smoke that I saw until shutdown!!! Couldn't believe how fast spool up response was too!!! Out of curiosity, how many, if any of the internal components are made of Titanium???🤔
Cool video dude 😎👍🔥🔥🔥 the 45 is my favourite jet engine from there range 👌 these modern day jet engines are truly impressive.. You must be stoked to own one .. Looking forward to more updates 💯
I wouldn't if I were you. You'd be creating a burns risk for anyone who happened to walk too close behind your bicycle. You'd need to be insured to the hilt to cover the risk involved.
Hi do you know you are NOT suposed to use the digital throttle trims .you have to put it on a switch . Its in the instructions and I have been having flame out as a results as advised by the Australian agent
If you plumb the output of it through an an automotive exhaust diverter valve with a turbo-charger turbine in place of a muffler, start the jet diverted and then valve it over to the turbo turbine once it's up to speed, will the turbo compressor then make usable boost being driven by it? That's what I want to know. A T-4 turbo is only about $150 on Ebay and exhaust diverter valves can be found for less than $50 each. The only other things that would be needed is a boost guage and a valve coupled to the output of the compressor to restrict the flow so it could build some boost. I suggested this to "Cletus Mc Farland and his crew months ago but it was either too much for their comprehension or egos because they never tried it with their same jet to my knowledge. I think it will work, but the price of that jet is more than I care to risk on such an experiment. it would have cost them nothing.
nice in 1979 I supported Wren turbines with the development of a free turbine powered helicopter I demonstrated it at Elvington . Mike murphy went on to develop the Wren 44 which was almost identical to this 45 . First flights indicated that the 54 mm turbine spinning at 111,000 rpm had far too much power from the 72mm free turbine. I had bought a full size ex falklands Westland Scout helicopter which had been swimming in a flooded quarry near to Nuneaton Warwickshire.. ..using stainless steel tubing supplied from Harald Zimmerman in Hille Germany I silver soldered an Alouette prototype test bed .2m rotor span .helicopter .My combustion chamber design was super efficient utilizing a torroidal combustion zone Burn .I still have my combustion chamber test rig which allowed me to fine tune the combustion .process. My Westland Scout helicopter gearbox revealed the gearbox lubrication special needs .effectively a dry sump incorporating spray lubrication using two stroke oil / air mist .. the same 2 stroke oil I used at 3% to lubricate the turbine ceramic 688 bearings .Too much oil resulted in the ceramic bearings skidding and self destructing . Memories mostly good some bad . Hopefully my Turbine Alouette went to a good home in the UK. an ey injury and a faulty 35mhz r/c transmitter ended my love affair with helicopter and R/C flight ..
Instead of foam plane, you should wedge it into one of these really trick 3D printed, EDF Strike Fighters. They’re awesome with electric propulsion, I can’t imagine how cool they’d be with an actual Turbo-Jet. Awesome video, thanks! Oh, is it possible to get telemetry from the the engines management system back to the Controller or do you limited to the plug in display?
@@robertchristianson1187 no because it wouldn’t be blowing clean air into the engine. Some of these early mini turbines did use car turbo components though 👍🏻
Newton meters is a measurement of torque, which is the rotational analogue of linear force, thrust is linear force, measured in newtons. For those that still use units predating the age of enlightenment, it can be even more confusing, as thrust is often measured in pounds of force, and torque is often measured in pound-foot, and when that affinity for obsolete base units is combined with the habit of abbreviating without completely understanding the concepts, and a multitude of conventions for how to abbreviate, plus the usual issue with different base units having the same name in that so called "system", and different definitions of the same units, confusion is kind of unavoidable.
Ive built my own Gas Turbine many years ago...That Gaspar guy mentioned on the box knows his stuff. Im guessing hes designed it. The combustion chamber looks quite long, a good thing given its small size... Doubtful it will deliver 10lbs though. Do you know the diameter of the turbine wheel..?...🤔😳🇬🇧
Would be interesting to set up a jig and using some thing like a luggage scale where the jig can be free floating on rails or hanging and the luggage scale attached to the jig and stationary surface...firing up the engine would act against the scale which in turn would give us how many pounds of force being generated place that fuel tank near the scale and we could visually measure consumption along side the force... You all know what luggage scales i am talking about right? The ones with attachments, usually carabiners, that you attach 1 side to the luggage and the opposite. If light enough you hold it or attach the other end so that it hangs. The scale is in between measuring the weight...now re purpose it laying it horizontally. One end to a solid stationary structure. The other end to whatever the engine will be mounted to- this has to have the ability, with ease to move- minimally, but, enough for the scale to be able to make its measurements... The luggage now being the engine...before the force measured was gravity. + contents within luggage. Now the output of the engine- would love to see this done- maybe as a series involving a number of engines- were the videos show us the fuel consumption/ efficiency and how powerful each is- do they produce the advertised figures? Incorporate a thermal camera- how hot do they get? Consumption...how much does it cost to run the different ones and compare against the others.
the P20 is around the same size as the X45 but as it is an older design it only gives 20N thrust instead of 45N. I have both, the X45 replaced the P20 as it was lacking in thrust for my needs.
Powerful little booger.. id wanna put it on a prop plane.. that way you could get the plane flying on its own then in the air start up the jet and see it boost into jet speed mode.. or id put it on a boat.. but cant control water so my luck the boat would pull a flip then jet motor would be gone..
3:28 he says there's some things that are pretty important to know on the PDF and not to rely on the quick start guide the moves right on along without telling you what any of those things that are important are.. keep up the good work Buddy
@tdogrc I appreciate sharing the review and the setup of this small turbine engine. A slight close up let's us (your views ) see what you see. The sound gets the blood rushing, lol. Very nice indeed. Enjoy it...... from New Jersey 👍
great video up until you were running it.. kinda lack luster.. should have had some smoke or something to show off the power... still thumbs up.. great job..
WOW!!!!!! THANKS, VERY MUCH, TIM, FO "SHARING" THIS WONDERFUL TURBINE ENGINE WITH US!! YOU COULD BUILD A COMPOSITE "BD5J" (FULL SIZE!) AND ADD 3 MORE OF THESE ENJINES, AND FLY IT FOR REAL!!!!!!... AS AN "ULTRALIGHT"....
@@guloguloguy thanks for watching!
I bought one not long after they became available and it has proved a reliable starter and runner. I initially had it in a Sebart Mini Avanti where it replaced a Jetcat P20SE which lacked the thrust for good grass take offs. I have tuned the thrust down to 35N instead of 45N as Sebart warns that 45N is a bit too much for the airframe. Engine now fitted to a Sebart L39 Albatross waiting to be flown.
The part you are calling the ECU is just a connector, the ECU is actually inside the front of the turbine with the 2 solenoid valves for fuel. I have never used a bubble trap with my engine, a felt clunk in the main tank will keep air out of the fuel pipe. (I do use one on larger models where there is more room in the fuselage.) I have 4 running turbines at the moment and only one has a stop valve in the fuel supply, this is because only one engine came with the valve. The stop valve only comes in if the solenoid valves fail when refueling, quite a low probability. Excess fuel inside the engine normally happens after a failed start when the main fuel flow has started but not ignited. If you think there is fuel in the engine tilt it forward so it comes out of the intake, the internal design stops it coming out of the exhaust.
I would recommend that you put the engine stop on a switch if you can to stop the need to scroll through the trim from one end to the other. Also set up your throttle failsafe setting to go below the normal endpoint otherwise the engine failsafe doesn't cut in properly. You may neded to set the throttle endpoints slightly higher than normal to allow this (relearn the setting in the ECU afterwards). I think the ECU failsafe is set to a 2 second delay to allow for a short loss of signal, if your radio is set to engine stop position for failsafe it will stop immediately, the ground display will then show it as engine stopped not failsafe.
Good luck with your model and good flying just be prepared for a short delay in throttling up and down compared to i.c. or electric (much less delay now compared to earlier jets) and always keep power on on landing approach to allow for giving it power on an overshoot. Only cut to idle when the approach is just right as the delay in spooling up from idle can be too long if you need to go around, good flaps help here.
@@JimGDMAC hey thanks for taking the time to write the comment. Some great advice. Definitely think I will try limiting the thrust 👍🏻
I've been complaining that they don't separate the turbine from the impeller for a long time now.
Electric compressor to gas generator.
I know that's at least one company doing it at full scale. Should be a lot easier to do it in small scale.
Then even with a flameout you will have some thrust, and lag would be negligible.
@jtjames79 I can only see disadvantages for this setup, with a gas turbine the only power needs are to spin it up to speed while starting then powering the fuel pump while running. A 2200 mAh battery will last for several runs on one charge. Your idea will need a larger battery to constantly run the compressor and it would need recharged every run. Also why have a turbine? it is doing nothing if not driving the compressor. Basically you have an electric ducted fan with a burner behind it. This system was tried in the earlier days of full sized aircraft but went nowhere, especially when the first proper turbines were developed.
@@JimGDMAC I was going to explain, but instead you should try answering your own questions. You are asking the right questions, but I'm not your google. If you want the details you will look them up.
Excellent comment. I know very little about jets, but all you said makes sense to me, as an avgeek.
I love your little fuel to sound conversion unit!
@@smile768 yeah can’t really film the inside of it 👍🏻
Lovely little engine - I bet the neighbours enjoy it too
@@richardstamper5630 😂 I made sure they were out!
Thats their fault for moving next door to a conservative.
@@tdogrc If you were my neighbour I'd probably be spending more time at your place than in my home :D
@ 😂 👍🏻
For those wondering, I checked. Starts at ~$1679 Eur, $1800 USD, or 2500 CAD, and some (all? didn't check) models are on backorder.
@@pfsantos007 get your orders in!
Thanx. I was wondering.
ME WANT.. ME WANT!!!
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Dumbfyck didn't include a limk. I'm lookin at you Dumbfyck as I slide by the AI.
Still way out of my price range nice engine.
Turbines are cool, never had one that tiny, cool how technology has gotten them so small
Yeah it’s amazing. Nice to have you watching John. Seen loads of your videos 👍🏻
I love that you can actually see the fuel level going down in the tank!!
@@Gavs_rc_hobbies yeah crazy! 👍🏻
Yup…just like a real corporate jet engine. Lol. I’ve heard an F16 engine in afterburner burns 43,000 lbs of jet fuel an hour. Crazy…
@@mxcollin95 nuts! 👍🏻
I would guess because its so damn small lol. The efficiency has to be terrible at such small scales. And that sound from the compressor and turbine 😳 Looking at the audio when it throttles up the whistle in the audio literally shoots up above 20 kHz pretty much immediately. As a bonus at 18:51 I think I got five root canals just from that part alone. Cool AF but damn better bring lots of jugs of fuel and ear protection!
@@mysock351C Kerosene is a fraction of the cost of normal rc fuel. Plus you can probably burn normal diesel fuel in it.
What many do not know is that every X number of hours of use it needs to be rebuilt which is usually a trip back to the factory. Just like a full size turbojet or even a high bypass turbine engine they need to be removed from the airframe and sent in for a full tear down and rebuild as per FAA or what the manufacture requires. Check with the manufacture to see what the TBM is recommended for these little beasts.
@@Subgunman yes that’s absolutely right. I think it’s about 100 hours but I could be wrong. It’s easy to take out of the airframe 👍🏻
@@tdogrc Just read the user manual and TBH doesn't get a mention other than a para about activities that may reduce the TBH. That seems odd, as it would be nice to know how long and how much it will cost.
@ hmm will have to email Xicoy 👍🏻. I think it tells you on the control panel as well.
25hrs
@ cheers. It’s not as bad as it sounds considering most flights will be about 4 mins 👍🏻
I had the Vo-Tech make the metal parts of my tiny jet engine. I made the Ceramic parts in the kiln in my art department. When my physics teacher helped me test it. It tore loose from the metal stand and tore off the 1/2 inch metal bolts and went down the parking lot. He gave me an A and it was so cool we looked up the stress break for the bolts and it was close to 5K breaking point. I wanted to build the Ironman suit back in 1979 but had to wait until the computer system could keep track of everything.
Wow impressive
And then you woke up.
Amazing. Love the ruin up sounds that it make as it is initiallizing/ going through the start up sequence....
@@paranoidzkitszo yeah it sounds like a big one!
Excellent! I could swear I saw a Workmate flying over last weekend...
@@vt356b 😂
The air thing is real .
We lit up my Dumas Nitro methane RC hydro model in our rental bathtub.
The thing was loud , pushed water up wall , across ceiling, and then down past faucet handles for a complete circle of water as we all got gut punched as Air left the bathroom.
We left the one guy holding on as it wound up like a weed whacker running out of fuel.
Was epic , and then T-mobile used that same boat (full size ) in a swimming pool as I became a boat racer at 52 .
This engine would be perfect for a scale model of a water speed record hull I recently tested fuel bladders for . Will be a working display.
The Hustler by Lee Taylor had a 10 k hp
Turbine from a Cutless Jet and did 275 mph .
A 1/8 th scale of the 30’ wood / aluminum hull would be perfect for our
Hydro and Raceboat Museum in Kent Wa.
Cool video. The rpm numbers are nuts .
@@timothymattson3680 wow good comment thanks 👍🏻
That's an impressive amount of thrust for the size/weight! I have a Jetcat P20 which is the same size/weight, yet outputs just 24N max!
@@iandavidson99 it’s about the same size as the P20 👍🏻
Awesome , I remember seeing one of the first jets fired up at Sandown park show some 35 years ago, 30 deep crowd around it , so never able to get close .
@@mariebaxter473 nice thanks!
I remember this. & Curtis youngblood flying his helicopter. Great show.
Indeed, they are not a new development...
Wow!!! what a fuel pig! lol Watching the tank go down when you hammered it. I would love to see a thrust test, even if its only a rudimentary setup.
@@Scott-hf2qz ha ha yes it sucks pretty hard 😂
i had one of these mounted to a board with wheels and a sponge to sit on. it needed a push to get me going but it worked and i was going down the street , once it gets going , it feels like a person pushing you from behind, its powerful be careful. there is also a danger element to this, exploding, shrapnel, flames etc... 👍
Sweet little engine. How much that run ya in US $? If I may ask.
@@DZX5000 cool!
@@Red_Whitenblu $2000
sounds very smooth, no metal noise , just sound of wind
@@johncgibson4720 yeah it runs nice 👍🏻
If I were your neighbor I would go visit to listen to that sweet jet engine music.
@@best5-4-u-2-c4 😂 yes they should be thanking me 😂
@@tdogrc 😆
Awesome. I bet that’s popular with the neighbours!
@@rudevectors8018 😂
All jets run on any fuel but lower flash point burn off is recommended such as kerosene diesel
@@joeys5429 yeah you can run these on diesel too 👍🏻
For a coke can sized jet engine it sure packs a punch, who would have thought😮 great video❤
Thank you 🙏🏻
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Yeah
Thank you for sharing that nice, little piece. 👍👍
@@baxbanni2226 thanks for watching 👍🏻
225000 rpm, Whittles jet ran up to 17500 rpm (they tweaked it up a bit so the aircraft could get airborne) and prop planes were so well developed by then that they outperformed the very early jets
@@Timothyshannon-fz4jx Whittle, what a legend
That’s incredible that they can build a Jet Engine that small. I would have thought that it would have more than 10Lbs of Thrust. Really nice little unit. I enjoyed the Video. Subscribed.👍👍
@@joeybobbie1 brilliant thanks for watching 👍🏻
Would be interesting to set up a jig and using some thing like a luggage scale where the jig can be free floating on rails or hanging and the luggage scale attached to the jig and stationary surface...firing up the engine would act against the scale which in turn would give us how many pounds of force being generated place that fuel tank near the scale and we could visually measure consumption along side the force...
You all know what luggage scales i am talking about right? The ones with attachments, usually carabiners, that you attach 1 side to the luggage and the opposite. If light enough you hold it or attach the other end so that it hangs. The scale is in between measuring the weight...now re purpose it laying it horizontally. One end to a solid stationary structure. The other end to whatever the engine will be mounted to- this has to have the ability, with ease to move- minimally, but, enough for the scale to be able to make its measurements... The luggage now being the engine...before the force measured was gravity. + contents within luggage. Now the output of the engine-
would love to see this done- maybe as a series involving a number of engines- were the videos show us the fuel consumption/ efficiency and how powerful each is- do they produce the advertised figures? Incorporate a thermal camera- how hot do they get? Consumption...how much does it cost to run the different ones and compare against the others.
Yeah I’ve seen other videos doing that. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Awesome video....that one heck of a nice leaf blower..👍👍I was watching the fuel level during the run....it likes fuel...
Yeah good idea 😂
Goto 17:40 if you're in a rush to see it spin-up. The full video is quite detailed. I think everybody should send in $1.00. I can't afford it however. Just saying
Thanks. I do waffle on 👍🏻
@@tdogrc
I wonder how this unit compares to what Franky Zapata uses on his flying platform? 🤔
I have always wanted one as well. But my other hobbies, gun collecting and ham radio, seem to always suck up the funds.
I can imagine guns are expensive! 👍🏻
@@tdogrc The last HF radio I bought was also a bit expensive for me also $1300 dollars, my guns run anywhere from about $500 to several thousands. The flight hobby is expensive also, my friend that owns the local model shop wanted $3K for a damaged turbine and $6K for a new one, but I'm sure the latest Chinese model can be had at reasonable prices. Good video by the way.
@@AdamosDad thank you 🙏🏻
tdogrc@@tdogrcwith the governments hatred of private people having access to firearms there has been a gun grab going on around the country and lots of licence holders have had a knock on the door to find Mr plod asking for all your toys for the flimsy reasons of whatever they can come up with at the time. Most people are not even charged with any crime and have to fight through the courts to have them returned. This means it's a buyers market and all the stuff you've invested in is almost being given away at auctions. The gun shops are crammed with unsold stock.
@@cedhome7945The weak job market isn't providing an excess of cash flow either.
Gun sales from fewer venders is Joe Biden's evil doing. Look forward to more illegal gun laws before the tyrant leaves office.
I absolutely love the smell of jet a.
@@chrisgermann6658 😍
Hi Tim. Looking forward to the install.
You and me both, thanks 🙏🏻
You could make a nice A-10 Warthog with a pair of those!
@@Quakeboy02 that would be cool!!
@@tdogrc Too expensive for me, and I learned about 40 years ago that I just can't put my head inside an RC plane (well it was an RC helicopter actually) and fly it. So I gave up on RC stuff. But I hope that someone does make a big A-10 with a pair of these. That would be really cool!
@@Quakeboy02 you should try FPV. It’s moved on a lot now!!
@@tdogrc Yeah, but you did notice that I said it's been 40 years, right? I'm just too old to learn that kind of skill now.
@@Quakeboy02 At 67 I think it's easier than you think. Here in the usa you can still find used ultralight airplanes cheaper than this engine and I love flying those even more.
You can get your head inside an ultralight.😊
I'm thinking about buying the X45TP turbine to mount on an Abrams M1A2 1/8 that I'm building entirely in metal
@@PreDok01 very cool!
I saw one of these types of engines live somewhere and all I could think was "bomb with a throttle."
@@lvdovicvs 😂 pretty much!
That was an insanely smooth startup with no visible smoke that I saw until shutdown!!! Couldn't believe how fast spool up response was too!!! Out of curiosity, how many, if any of the internal components are made of Titanium???🤔
And when running it will go from idel to full thrust in 3.5 second
Thanks yes it’s a lovely little thing. It’s spools up very quick as it’s so small. Not sure about titanium to be honest. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻
The sound alone is a reason to buy.
@@samre3006 agreed!! 👍🏻
Cool video dude 😎👍🔥🔥🔥 the 45 is my favourite jet engine from there range 👌 these modern day jet engines are truly impressive.. You must be stoked to own one .. Looking forward to more updates 💯
@@giveitatryguy6784 glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment dude 👍🏻
Does this thing have enough thrust to propel a bicycle with me on it?
@@lonesom not this one it’s too small. But they make more powerful versions 👍🏻
I wouldn't if I were you. You'd be creating a burns risk for anyone who happened to walk too close behind your bicycle. You'd need to be insured to the hilt to cover the risk involved.
Great video thanks I wonder how many test run ups the neighbors will tolerate .😊
@@remog38 thanks very much. I only did one test. The rest will be down the at the field 👍🏻
There are also noise restrictions at some model flying sites these days, so you couldn't use this everywhere. Noise is classed as pollution now....
Just went to web sight. They have turbo prop and helicopter versions as well.
@@robertsmith2956 they sure do
I am going to buy one to be my next leaf blower!
@@libertine5606 it would certainly do that!
Just crazy very cool
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Epic. It sounds like my diesel heater starting up.
@@rogerhargreaves2272 yeah I know what you mean, I used to have a diesel heater 👍🏻
Do you know of any bigger model that csn be mounted on a drone?
@@danymogh you can get bigger versions. Check out their website 👍🏻
Wow, that is a lot of thrust for such a little bugger! wjm🙂
@@hotscarywjm sure is!
Love Way he Uses his Body as Impact Zone...
Soooooo nice sooooo tiny
Well done sir
@@RGCbaseace thanks for watching 👍🏻
Serious piece of kit
Sure is! 👍🏻
Is there any way to harness the rotating power for applications like a boat or helicopter?
@@6-Iron you can get some turbines that power helicopters and also turbo prop versions 👍🏻
Hi do you know you are NOT suposed to use the digital throttle trims .you have to put it on a switch . Its in the instructions and I have been having flame out as a results as advised by the Australian agent
@@raymondsmith5046 yes I did but thanks for the tip. I have setup my trim now on my radio so it’s just on/off like a switch 👍🏻
If you plumb the output of it through an an automotive exhaust diverter valve with a turbo-charger turbine in place of a muffler, start the jet diverted and then valve it over to the turbo turbine once it's up to speed, will the turbo compressor then make usable boost being driven by it? That's what I want to know. A T-4 turbo is only about $150 on Ebay and exhaust diverter valves can be found for less than $50 each. The only other things that would be needed is a boost guage and a valve coupled to the output of the compressor to restrict the flow so it could build some boost. I suggested this to "Cletus Mc Farland and his crew months ago but it was either too much for their comprehension or egos because they never tried it with their same jet to my knowledge. I think it will work, but the price of that jet is more than I care to risk on such an experiment. it would have cost them nothing.
@@golgothapro hmm not sure. Would be a good experiment 👍🏻
nice in 1979 I supported Wren turbines with the development of a free turbine powered helicopter I demonstrated it at Elvington . Mike murphy went on to develop the Wren 44 which was almost identical to this 45 . First flights indicated that the 54 mm turbine spinning at 111,000 rpm had far too much power from the 72mm free turbine. I had bought a full size ex falklands Westland Scout helicopter which had been swimming in a flooded quarry near to Nuneaton Warwickshire.. ..using stainless steel tubing supplied from Harald Zimmerman in Hille Germany I silver soldered an Alouette prototype test bed .2m rotor span .helicopter .My combustion chamber design was super efficient utilizing a torroidal combustion zone Burn .I still have my combustion chamber test rig which allowed me to fine tune the combustion .process. My Westland Scout helicopter gearbox revealed the gearbox lubrication special needs .effectively a dry sump incorporating spray lubrication using two stroke oil / air mist .. the same 2 stroke oil I used at 3% to lubricate the turbine ceramic 688 bearings .Too much oil resulted in the ceramic bearings skidding and self destructing . Memories mostly good some bad . Hopefully my Turbine Alouette went to a good home in the UK. an ey injury and a faulty 35mhz r/c transmitter ended my love affair with helicopter and R/C flight ..
@@richardwallinger1683 wow very impressive 👍🏻
What is the thrust on that thing ?
@@TheSchmed 4.5 kg 👍🏻
I always thought you could put a couple of these on a glider to extend the range a bit. That would be rad.
@@dustinandtarynwolfe5540 yeah you probably could 👍🏻
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If only I had the time could have some real fun with these
@@nobrakes7247 😂
IMHO: YOU OUGHT TO PUT A POLE MOUNTED "WIND SOCK/INDICATOR RIBBON", A FEW FEET BEHIND THE EXHAUST, TO INDICATE THE AMOUNT OF THRUST/AIRFLOW ....
@@guloguloguy yep 👍🏻
No leafblower demo?
@@BVLVI 😂
Instead of foam plane, you should wedge it into one of these really trick 3D printed, EDF Strike Fighters. They’re awesome with electric propulsion, I can’t imagine how cool they’d be with an actual Turbo-Jet. Awesome video, thanks!
Oh, is it possible to get telemetry from the the engines management system back to the Controller or do you limited to the plug in display?
@@TheElectronicDilettante thanks for watching! Yes I think you can get a module which lets you see the telemetry on the controller 👍🏻
Great vid new sub🎉
@@eringobreathtiocfaidharla1446 thank you 🙏🏻
Works really good in the eflite viper 90, we have a video flying one.
@@ParkerSmithRC yes that would be perfect. Nice suggestion thanks 👍🏻
I wonder if this could be used as s turbo for auto engines
@@robertchristianson1187 no because it wouldn’t be blowing clean air into the engine. Some of these early mini turbines did use car turbo components though 👍🏻
@tdogrc I remember years ago a company called turbinomics or something similar used a turbine to run a turbo and I guess it was a beast
Newton meters is a measurement of torque, which is the rotational analogue of linear force, thrust is linear force, measured in newtons.
For those that still use units predating the age of enlightenment, it can be even more confusing, as thrust is often measured in pounds of force, and torque is often measured in pound-foot, and when that affinity for obsolete base units is combined with the habit of abbreviating without completely understanding the concepts, and a multitude of conventions for how to abbreviate, plus the usual issue with different base units having the same name in that so called "system", and different definitions of the same units, confusion is kind of unavoidable.
@@fishyerik 👍🏻
I have one i bought lightly used going in a fomie Avanti. Should get it finished over the winter
Nice have fun!
Do you think that would do good on a manned glider?
Not this one it’s too small. But they make bigger versions 👍🏻
Love to mount one under the car just for the sound.
@@suunto61 nice idea!
What brand are the military using right now flying suits
@@Mkaltered ?
You're edf's are going to gather dust now Tim 😁
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes 😂 probably Cliff 👍🏻
Thanks for the Vid
@@paulsim7589 thanks for watching 👍🏻
Ive built my own Gas Turbine many years ago...That Gaspar guy mentioned on the box knows his stuff. Im guessing hes designed it. The combustion chamber looks quite long, a good thing given its small size... Doubtful it will deliver 10lbs though. Do you know the diameter of the turbine wheel..?...🤔😳🇬🇧
@@EnglishTurbines nice that sounds impressive. I’m. It sure about the size 👍🏻
Would be interesting to set up a jig and using some thing like a luggage scale where the jig can be free floating on rails or hanging and the luggage scale attached to the jig and stationary surface...firing up the engine would act against the scale which in turn would give us how many pounds of force being generated place that fuel tank near the scale and we could visually measure consumption along side the force...
You all know what luggage scales i am talking about right? The ones with attachments, usually carabiners, that you attach 1 side to the luggage and the opposite. If light enough you hold it or attach the other end so that it hangs. The scale is in between measuring the weight...now re purpose it laying it horizontally. One end to a solid stationary structure. The other end to whatever the engine will be mounted to- this has to have the ability, with ease to move- minimally, but, enough for the scale to be able to make its measurements... The luggage now being the engine...before the force measured was gravity. + contents within luggage. Now the output of the engine-
would love to see this done- maybe as a series involving a number of engines- were the videos show us the fuel consumption/ efficiency and how powerful each is- do they produce the advertised figures? Incorporate a thermal camera- how hot do they get? Consumption...how much does it cost to run the different ones and compare against the others.
Awesome , hope the install goes well.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Going to be a very lively model 😎
Was that jet engine really even running because I did not see any smoke at all or any thing to tell it was running ????
It definitely was. There is smoke at the end when I turn it off 👍🏻
Will this run on fairy liquid
@@stamfordmeetup yes if you mix it with enough kerosene 👍🏻
What a beauty!
@@xXxCobraCommanderxXx thanks 🙏🏻
What model are you putting it in?
Freewing Avanti 👍🏻
@tdogrc good choice
@ thanks 👍🏻
micro jets would be fucking AWESOME.
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I believe the P20 turbine is even smaller and has been around for several years.
Yeah think you’re right
the P20 is around the same size as the X45 but as it is an older design it only gives 20N thrust instead of 45N. I have both, the X45 replaced the P20 as it was lacking in thrust for my needs.
Fuel flow?
EDIT-
Found it in their website. Goes from 20 g/min to 145 g/min, from idle to full power.
@@coriscotupi nice that’s it 👍🏻
How much dose something like this run
Not too much the fuel is quite cheap. Probably like a $1 a flight 👍🏻
Google Xicoy X45. It's about $2100 or so.
@ 😂 good answer 👍🏻
@@Quakeboy02 god dam
@@Quakeboy02 You can find used Quicksilver ultralight airplanes for about the same money. Fun to fly too.
What is its MBTF or Hours before overhaul ?
@@copernicus633 think it’s 25 hours
pretty cool!
Powerful little booger.. id wanna put it on a prop plane.. that way you could get the plane flying on its own then in the air start up the jet and see it boost into jet speed mode.. or id put it on a boat.. but cant control water so my luck the boat would pull a flip then jet motor would be gone..
@@Z-Ack 😂 some interesting ideas there!
3:28 he says there's some things that are pretty important to know on the PDF and not to rely on the quick start guide the moves right on along without telling you what any of those things that are important are.. keep up the good work Buddy
Then the video would be even longer! Download the PDF for free, read it and then maybe you could do a video on that for us all 👍🏻
How do you attach a drive shaft for helicopter/boat etc
@@harrystephens2061 you can buy version that have a turbo prop type setup. But not this model, the bigger engines 👍🏻
@tdogrc you can get the 45 in the turboprop version
@ ah cool
That UK VAT rate is sheer extortion!
Yep!!
You’re going to put that in a rc plane? Of course I’m subscribing
@@Metzgee sure am! Great to have you onboard 👍🏻
Where is the link so we can look to buy it please
@@chrisarmstrong2721 www.xicoyturbines.com/X45.html or if in UK you can order here
www.thejetworkshop.com/
Can you make a mini power station out of it ?
@@mattfgln probably
So, how many neighbors did you piss off with that test run. :)))
@@flyboy38a all sides 😂
If someone had the funds…they could replace the rear turbo lights on Airwolf with these and make those boosters functional.
@@jjjsmith2497 👌🏻
Good Video. I just wish the price was better...
@@m.m.7511 thanks. 🙏🏻
I didn't get what the smaller container is?
@@cnrom it’s a little fuel tank to trap any air bubbles before going to the engine 👍🏻
Daaaaaammmmm this looks sick
@@tdogfpv thanks. Great name!!!!
A close-up would have been sweet. 👍
@@ljaysperspective1775 next time 👍🏻
@tdogrc I appreciate sharing the review and the setup of this small turbine engine. A slight close up let's us (your views ) see what you see. The sound gets the blood rushing, lol. Very nice indeed. Enjoy it...... from New Jersey 👍
@ thanks dude 👍🏻
Nice! 😊👍
Thanks 👍🏻
that was awesome
@@GregoryMosher appreciate the watch 👍🏻
Good luck…no hot starts. 🤞
Ps. How much was it???
Thanks about $2000
You can actually see the fuels going down quite quickly when you throttle up! Bonkers. Engineering Marvell’s these engines are.
the thumbnail makes him look like hes about to sell someones liver on the darkweb 😮😅😂
@@EFLO3D wow that’s an interesting concept. Thanks
great video up until you were running it.. kinda lack luster.. should have had some smoke or something to show off the power... still thumbs up.. great job..
Thanks. Yeah could have done with showing the bushes behind being blown about 👍🏻
I bet your neighbours love you.
@@Deebz270 of course they do 😂