How Many Clones Were Dispersed to Each War-Front?
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In Disney canon... not enough.
In legends? Still not enough
Shows how rigged the entire war was.
Nico Venetsanakos More like how little the writers actually put into thinking about realistic troop numbers.
Yeah, the numbers of clones/droids never made sense to me. The soviets fielded more than 3 million in world war II, on ONE planet, and that was only enough to fully garrison ONE main front line. Also great video, keep it up!u
Yeah, the number of military deaths for the Soviets alone was around 8-10 million. The U.S. fielded 16 million men during the war, Germany 17 million, China 14 million, Japan and Italy around nine million each, Britain five million and the USSR fielding an immense 21 million troops. To fight a galactic war you would need hundreds of millions if not billions
Gets crazier when you realize over 80 million people died in a conflict that was truly for the fate of an entire planet, which is basically the entire GAR and then some.
I imagine, however, that most planets in the Star Wars galaxy are only lightly populated, with between 1 and 10 major cities in total. There are several mega cities, but I don't imagine most planets are hot-spots for jobs and opportunity.
Im not sure if there were battles like in WW2 in the clone wars. I still think the number is low; but they mostly just seemed to fight for capital cities
@@Okami1313 Something to keep in mind is that clones were more like marines, they were the ones who did the bulk of the assaults into enemy held territory. I don't think we ever got a number for the local defensive forces (even without looking at guerrillas on CIS held worlds ), which if we looked at that number the GAR's numbers would look more realistic. And then we have 10k jedi at the start of the war.
3 million clones
Don’t worry there’s a million more on the way
Units not clones, 16 clones a unit
a billion more on the way
@TheUnknown 7789 - LOL
@@Joshua-hz3cl Did the math that's still not enough,it's 64 million you would need at least 1 billion troops to maintain Galactic front. Just keep in mind WW2 a conflict literally fought for control over one world killed 80 million people with 20 million military casualties multiply both those numbers by every world the Republic fought on to get a rough idea of how big and brutal a galactic conflict would be and estimate how many troops at minimum one would need to simply maintain front. And not just combat active troops, but you need reserves to relieve fatigued forces so they can recover and auxiliary personnel to keep the combat personnel ready for combat.
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 yeah there is another video someone did that shows a unit was 1k clones.
The scale of the clone wars is weird. It’s a galaxy wide war yet padme lobbied against a seemingly massive order of 1 million additional clones
Sci fi authors often have a terrible sense of scale. They often either over or under shoot it. In warhammer 40k you have Earth with a population in the QUADRILLIONS, yet the entire galaxy only has around 1 million space marines? I'm sorry what?!
Of course they can retroactively add explanations for these, but still doesn't come across as the practical choice.
TheEarlofManwhich that's because they only have a certain number of gene seed that's required to turn mortals into space marines. It's been 10 thousand years of constant war so attrition is why the numbers of space marines is so low, you've got to remember every battle there will be a small amount of gene seed that would be destroyed so the number decreases with each battle.
@@TheEarlofManwhich Spot on
Yes its a huge galaxy but you often forget that most of the planets and solar systems are completely useless. Not every planet has a pleasant environment to live or do something strategically important on it. Imagine the scale of our universe, how many planets that we know can theoretically provide us livable conditions? Exactly. Of course in sci fi the scale is more entertaining and huge but this do not mean that it can not be responsibly more compact.
@@matthewstringer5675 we know that's not the case. The mechanicus has MASSIVE gene seed reserves, alongside the administration too apparently given the minotaurs, they just keep it sealed away for reserve and regulation purposes.
The marines are KEPT at that number. When theres too many usually some chapters get thrown into the meat grinder and when the imperium needs more the mechanicus opens the gene vault and enacts a new chapter founding.
Dont get me wrong, some chapters definitely don't fair well regarding attrition (Flesh Tearers and Charcaradons come to mind) but those are extremes. On the expansionary end you can see the black templars managing to see large amounts of attrition yet still see consistent chapter growth. If slowly.
The Lore Master mentioned in a video that came out in 2016 that the most appealing number of clones would be 691 million 200,000.
Cyber Kid1 yeah I feel like this is is blown out of proportion, you would see way more clones in the og trilogy and clones doing other things after the republic
Broadsided7567 Early in season one in the clones wars they were outnumbered by the separatists so I thought less than a million but I don’t know anymore
@@GamaniacMike14 This new RUclips inbox sh!t sucks I don't know what I'm doing.
But anyways the reason these numbers of clones would give us the nature of why the Clone Wars as a conflict is so largely expensive in both Legends and Disney Canon as dozens or hundreds of battles are so predictable and some are unseen and unimaginable.
The Legends canon also states that the CIS has a quintillion battle droids that requires a single clone trooper against an entire large unit of droids
As for the Empire side they have much larger populations of human non-clone recruits as well as Sparti clones and then alien conscripts.
@@GamaniacMike14 I mean there are a trillion and a half people living on Courasaunt
@@CyberKid-fm4li hey it was stated as propaganda for the number of droids by the way.
Galactic republic: succefully defend an entire galaxy with 3 millions clones
Me in HOI4: Fail to defend Russia with 6 millions soldiers
Don't worry. It's the winter's fault.
It always is.
It is a matter of letting not your hand but stalins hand guide your moves. And then spamming CAS.
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In battlefront 2, during the opening cinematic of geonosis galactic assault, the tactical droid says one unit of clones has survived, and the clones start with 100 tickets/lives. One unit = 100 clones, and you'd quickly reach a galactic sized army
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@@jasonsteelflax597 Also a great channel. Geetsly's I enjoy for taking a very grounded approach to Star Wars, such as pointing out why the CIS and the various droids they used were in fact very dangerous and not just the Saturday morning villains the Clone Wars series depicted them as being a lot of the time. When I want me some spaceship facts I hop over to Eckharts, when I want some extra Legends lore I hop over to Corey, but when I want some grounded lore that I would use in any Star Wars RPG I'd consider running I'd look to Geetsly's.
@@StarSage66 Star Wars Theory, Thor Skywalker, what about them? And Generation Tech is good as well although they really hate the Jedi Lol, Stupendous Wave is awful and just recycles old videos
@@AndrewMRoots Star Wars theory
Same! Do you agree he should make a video on gray jedi?
At least seven.
7.5
i think 10
Funny man
I too am bad a numbers, lets bond over 3000 beers.
What about the delta squad solo missions where only 4 were sent?
I always figured the "Unit" spoken about referred to a one of those full formations that you see in Attack of the Clones. In the Marines you didn't refer to yourself or one person as a "unit" rather it the whole company you were part of.
Thats what i alway thought too, but at their core theyre products and the Kaminoans are their manufacturers, so referring to them individually or by batch as units does make sense
Yeah, the scale of the war, and the CIS and Republic military has been unrealistic for years considering how big the Star Wars galaxy is. Clearly, the CIS had a big advantage of manufacturing droids at a much higher rate compared to growing and training a clone. However, the CIS was about quantity than quality in terms of the standard B1 Battle Droid. The Grand Army of the Republic had to be large considering that clones had different duties. Some were soldiers, some were pilots, some were engineers, some were naval officers, etc. So no way was the Grand Army of the Republic in the low millions.
That’s why I see it broken down as a unit being a battalion. When people talk about their unit it’s Battalion or Squadron
Yeah, a unit being a Legion or Corps makes more sense since those are bigger than a Company, Regiment, and squad.
Yeah I always took it as a company or platoon level rather than individual clone. Even at 12 years old watching the movie. I honestly never even considered it being individual soldiers until I hit the internet on it a few years ago. Each Acclimator required 700 to even crew plus its 16,000 compliment. The original number stated in AOTC of 200,000 with a million on the way would amount of just 73 Acclimators... and that’s not counting any garrisons anywhere. Hardly a fleet to engage in any sort of galactic battle. And that’s without the Venators which required more crew
As a clone commander, I can personally answer this question...
a lot... the answer is a lot.
What are you doing now that you're retired?
@@dreademperor2094 he probably plays lots of golf LMAO
Good man, that Cody
@@G59forlife. bruhhh
And yet not enough
In the most militaries a unit refers to a Company or Battery ect. but i can understand why in Star Wars a unit refers to a platoon which the clones are trained in.
FYI as someone in the military i love these kinds of videos. im a nerd for all the military aspects of star wars. keep it up!
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Perhaps unlikely, but my personal head-canon since 2003 was that hundreds of billions of clones were used in the grand army. This vast number, along with the cost was what helped make it to where a measly 5 million were now highly considered too expensive.
i say 1 billion
I agree with 100 million clones because that would mean there is a legion of clones for every Jedi knight
@@nicolaswithoutah1272 don't think we were ever given a actual number on how many jedi "knights" there were. Just that 10k Jedi existed, total.
I am just so mad that we did not get a lot large battles in the clone wars
The Flying Dutchman yeah the orginal series actually felt a lot more large scale. Add to that the Dark Horse Republic comics and their huge and brutal battles too.
this just shows that their are so many more clone legions and battalions and all we see in the clone wars is the 501st,212th, and occasionally the 104th
Also 501st implies that there are 500 other legions
Don't forget the 327th,41st,91st,21st
Corps.
That’s a good assumption, but thats not the only way it could be interpreted, just like the cis used propoganda to exaggerate troop numbers, the gar could’ve done the same. The US did so In the Cold War with SEAL teams, SEAL team 6 was only the 2nd SEAL team created, but it was designated as such to make the soviets believe not only that there were 4 more SEAL teams active, but that they could be anywhere doing anything because soviet spies and intelligence had no knowledge of any other SEAL teams.
The more you can explain about the actual conducting of the clone wars the better!
The scale of The Clone Wars have always been inconsistent. Clearly, the CIS had a big advantage of manufacturing droids at a much higher rate compared to growing and training a clone. However, the CIS was about quantity than quality in terms of the standard B1 Battle Droid.
The Grand Army of the Republic had to be large considering that clones had different duties. Some were soldiers, some were pilots, some were engineers, some were naval officers, etc.
The Clone Wars was considered one of the biggest wars in the Star Wars galaxy that spanned all over, which is why so many planets knew about it, and what was going on. And how some tried to remain neutral.
Of course, Darth Sidious was controlling the war from behind the scenes. However, you would think people in the Republic, whether Jedi, clones, politicians, or citizens would realize that the war didn't make a whole of sense due to its conveniences.
4:25 that was a thumbnail from daley tactics from one of his videos.!
i literally said the same thing dude, we hydro homies
What game is that picture from ?
@@GarandPinky yeah
That’s poggers (if you get this reference than you’re probably a Daley sub)
I'am completely agree with your theory on the number of clones: the guy who firstly said 3M had literally no idea what military is. Today, N-Korea's army has 1,3 M permanent personnels and over 6M in reserves (no fast breed, no mass economic support). Of course as a French, terms like "Grand Army", the fall of the Republic and rise of the empire talks to me and civil war, secession, separatism talks to US people so what were the numbers in these cases. During the FR revolutionary wars, there were in the Army of the Republic 750 000 men who fought the First Coalition (the foreign war) whith whome we must had an other 150 000 men who thought the Civil War in the West of the country (nearly a million men). Now during the US Civil War: the Unionist had aproximately 2,2 M personnels and the CSA approximately 1M. A local conflict not even a world conflict, already mobilised more than 3M personnels: I think (ironicaly), that the one who gave the number of 3M for the whole GAR, just didn't know what a galaxy (far far away) looked like x) . Of course logistics and a great deal of military efforts were assured by droîds and locals but still, the number couldn't match a galactic size war.
Those poor troops in a literal galactic meat grinder...
Finally a video that addresses that 3 million clones is way to little to defend the Galactic Republic. I have been headbanging for hours trying to figure out how 3 million can defend a galaxy. I think that the number that Geetsly's says should be canon, since it is much more reasonable.
How many clones do you think would take?
Around the same number that Geestly's is saying that would be necessary. At least 50 million in the first wave.
@@thirdplanet4471 Doing a little bit of calculation with the official organizational structure in front of me, and keeping in mind the identification numbers for clone troopers and legions, I would say that about 180 million is a pretty good number.
3 billion Clones makes more sense in my opinion.
It wasn’t 3 million clones, it was 3 million clone units. A unit of clones is 2,400 troopers. So it’s actually 7.2 Billion clones
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It's 3 million at the start of the War, and it's implied to be 10 million directly on the frontlines at the end of the war.
Edit: The smallest unit in the clone army was a squad: 8 clones + 1 corporal or sergeant.
Imagine a strategy game/Galactic Conquest set with more accurate scale and hyperspace lanes and what not
Yes ! More videos like this, please:D
In today’s world some group would be trying to protest saying “ Think of the clones!”
I always figured it was closer to maybe a billion at the height, I mean they basically created a whole new species
Good geetslys good....... another great video!
Increase the number to BILLIONS, and the GAR still would have been strapped for manpower.
I'd defiantly be more interested in this stuff. I'll watch anything related to the Clone Wars. :)
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My issue is that the republic could have come up with an army of billions by conscripting less than 1% of the population
I always see the small numbers as being the numbers of the central clone force that fought with the 10000 jedi, the majority of the fighting was done by planetary defense forces and there were the red tinged clone mil police that were stationed in coruscant and the core worlds, id like to assume there were alot of other clone reserves too
Yeah, sure. The numerical Droids versus Clones would also be helpful. And we might want to factor in those more fast grown & short lived clones as well.
Also, maybe some fan made pragmatic stories about the Clone Wars would also be nice…
My count should be 2.5 billion realistically.
This was good
Great video
For the clones, their identification number things, like CT-5555, all of them have just 4 digits. Yet we know that there are millions of them. So how did that happen??
According to Legends, each clone legion/brigade had 9,216 troops in it, which is pretty close to the largest 4-digit number possible, so maybe your identification number was unique within your legion/brigade but not beyond it. We also know that legions could have 3-digit identification numbers, allowing for almost 10,000,000 clones before some other organizational system would have to be included. Add to that the fact that there are 20 sector armies, and you have nearly 200,000,000 unique identifications.
Summary: CT-5555 uniquely identifies clone trooper "Fives" within the 501st legion. Between legions, he would be identified as CT-5555-501 or something like that, which would be unique within his sector army.
A legion has 9220 ish troops, assigned to an aclamator with 700ish crew. Add in 30-50 pilots and the crew for 20-30 At-te drivers or commandos and you can reasonably assume a legions troops total to 10,000. Thus the full designation for a trooper would be legion-trooper number, ie CT-501-7567 for rex, not to be confused with bill CT 500 7567 from the 500 legion.
Yeah I've always thought that 3 million was bs when World War 2 in had many times the number of combatants as that without any rapidly aging artificial humans involved
It's estimated that over 300 million soldiers on all sides fought in WW2. In my personal belief, each sector army should have at least that with larger/contested sectors having around double
Not fucking enough, in either Legends or Canon. The big problem is that the battlefront is across millions of light years of space and millions of worlds, not to mention hundreds of thousands of capital ships. Major worlds probably also had a clone garrison. Then you need to consider the requirements for taking a planet.
Typically, an army requires a 3 to 1 advantage in force strength to attack a enemy position and 5 to 1 against an entrenched position. Now, this isn't necessarily going to hold true for the republic because Droids are stupid cheap. However, it is very likely that 1 clone is worth at least 3 to 5 battle droids, which then means we need to determine a droid garrison.
The RAND corporation did a study to determine the number of troops required to successfully occupy a country: 1 soldier for every 50 inhabitants. In Germany in 1945 and Kosovo in 1999, the US and her allies deployed approximately 1 soldier for every 40 inhabitants. If we look at Ryloth, prominently featured in the Clone Wars as being under a very brutal and repressive occupation with a population of 1.5 billion Twi'leks, we can therefore determine that, at a minimum, the Confederacy of Independent Systems deployed 30 million battle droids. This would require at least 6,000,000 clone troopers to assault initially. Casualties during the landing itself could be incredibly high, possibly up to 30% of the landing force, requiring constant reinforcements. Then there is the fact that Ryloth is a planet only a bit smaller than Earth and you start to find a major issue, namely the need to launch concerted attacks across tens of millions of square kilometers of land. Given that droids are unlikely to retreat, every position has to be completely wiped out unless the droids withdraw under orders. This will require an enormous investment in men, hardware, munitions, and time. A fleet of hundreds of warships will be required to provide starfighter and capital ship gunnery support, with thousands of transports delivering food, ammunition, medical supplies, and replacements. Hundreds of medical ships will be making the journey from the planet to medical stations almost daily, withdrawing tens of thousands of casualties as the fighting continues. The fighting would probably last weeks and cost millions of clones and Twi'leks their lives.
And that is just ONE planet. Spread this same basic principle across thousands of worlds and you start to require absolutely insane numbers of men. It is my honest opinion that the Clone Wars should have been the Star Wars equivalent of World War One, with planetary battles more akin to the Somme or Verdun than the small, clean skirmishes we were so often shown. Titanic battles with millions of men fighting for months over relatively minor gains (yes a single planet in a Galaxy spanning war is a minor gain), the devastation of which would bolster support for Palpatine's Empire as it rose and even maintain that support into the Galactic Civil War. The scars of such a titanic war would take years to heal and hundreds of trillions of beings would have been personally affected by it, having lost loved ones, homes, entire lives, forced into the life of a refugee and willing to pay any price for stability. The image the Galaxy should have of the Clone Wars is the same image Interwar Europe had of World War 1, something to be avoided at all costs.
I love how the GAR divides up the galaxy the way the US military divided Vietnam. Just another great example of Star Wars pulling from history, part of what makes the lore and story so rich and relatable
The us military didn’t divide Vietnam the French did
Wonderful video.
So just looked it up and WW2 had 70 million combatants. For the number to even begin to be believable it'd have to be at least 100 million
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I think legends depends on system militia and planetary defense division more than canon. To support smaller clone army
Hey Geestlys could you do a video on what of Sidious was not behind the scenes and how the war would play out
3 million makes sense for Space Marines in 40K because they have *Trillions* of Guardsmen and PDF's. 100 million+ troopers would be what the Republic needed at a minimum
Using the US Marine Corps, who Lucas seems to have based both the Stormtroopers and Clones on, the "Units" are Likely Companies. Companies are an Average of 150, which brings the Clones' Numbers for the "200,000 Units, with a Million more well on the way" to 180,000,000. This is a Much more reasonable number than stated by even Geetsly's, and one based on personal military experience (most Military "Units" are Company-Level or above). Leadership on that level would be needed to keep the "Unit" properly Functional (we all know how Obsessed the Kaminoans were with Proper Order and Functionality in Clone Units).
Looking at the official organizational structure of the GAR and doing a bit of math, a company contains 152* clone troopers plus 1 commander. 1,200,000 companies would contain 182,400,000 clone troopers plus a few million officers.
Furthermore, we know that clone troopers had 4-digit identification codes, meaning they could not be uniquely identified above the legion/battalion level, that legions and battalions had 3-digit identification codes, and that there were 20 sector armies. This would allow for up to 194,560,000 unique identifiers for clone troopers, which is more than would be needed.
In summary, having spent about an hour crunching numbers, I think your idea is right.
*assuming that the sergeant and corporal are counted in the 9 troopers per squad. Otherwise, there would be 184 troopers per company and 220,800,000 in total, and a 4-digit identifier would only be good up to the regiment level.
Hey Geetsly,what if order 66 didn't happened? Have the Clone Wars continue?Who would've one?
The amount of systems in the Star Wars galaxy never made sense for me though, in the senate room you can clearly see that there's nowhere close to 1 million systems/planets. I'd say about 10000 systems, taking into account the colonies and the ratio of habitable planets and stars in the galaxy I'd say there's about 50000 planets/systems where there would be intelligent life operating there. Therefore the number of 3 million clones + 5 million each year would actually be reasonable as you would end up with about 300-400 clones on every front which is sort of close to what we see in the clone wars if you think about it. Then you'd factor in the clones being placed under the Jedi general's commands and that would average about 1500-2000 clones per Jedi as there are roughly 10000 Jedi during this time. This is also a reasonable amount. Hence I think that its not the number of clones that's the problem but the number of systems/planets.
Good point.
200000 units and units r referred to as battalions containing 553 men for one unit times that by 200000 and then a million that's the total number of clones ready in the first three months
At best you could combine both totals from legends and canon (not counting spartti clones because they were rushed canon-fodder). Legends with 3 million and canon with 6.2 million gives you at best 9.2 million, just enough to have as an elite fighting force, but nowhere near enough to totally reconquer separatist controlled space.
The number of 3 million clones makes absolutely no sense. If you think about it China and India both have over a million soldiers without being in a war and only act on a very small portion of a relatively small planet
dang, that intro hit me.
I remember seeing somewhere that at its largest number was about 6 million clones
9:31 that’s my wallpaper!
I don’t know why it never occurred to me before but...I know it’s already kinda dumb the Jedi were curious and only investigated a little but- not only was there this giant secret army but all the clones just HAPPENED to be within a few months of being ready / having just “graduated” just in time for Geonosis? What a lucky coincidence! 👀
Yeah that is a massive plot hole I try to ignore.
If I waive my hand will you finally be 'force'-fully persuaded to make a video on the gray jedi...?😂😂😭
4:28 was that daley tactics thumbnail
Ok now this is how I always saw those numbers as actually possible an correct or maybe going as far as 6 million as some estimates calculated the total of clones to be with other facilities on Kamino. I saw it along the lines of what Sifo Dyas wanted and ask for he wanted “the best soldiers in the galaxy” as in technically “super soldiers” not an actual army but a “Super” Army to use tactically to destroy any enemy along the galaxy against the CIS and their want to literally “flood” the Galaxy and battlefield with an endless swarm of fodder “clunkers” to just be destroyed so I always saw it as the clone army being used as elite reinforcements or advanced force being used to fight along the natives of the planets of the republic and even if you take the 3 million you get 10 System Armies of 300.000 clones each and that’s why it’s even said that the real fighting was actually done by the volunteers and native forces of each planet. This point can also be reinforced when you take into account that by the end of the war (and along the whole conflict there should have been a similar number) the CIS held no more than a few thousands of worlds and the republic always had a healthy advantage in the number of worlds they controlled and how powerful and advanced those were so that’s why they only wanted an “elite” relatively small army while the CIS needed to actually outnumber them by “100 to 1” as Dooku said because in the actual organic fighter number the galactic republic held advantage in numbers of both planets and actual “organic” fighters/soldiers.
Canon thinks the GAR was going to fight a galaxy wide war with 3 million clones when 3 troops is barely enough to wage a war on earth.
Honestly... I've been slowly watching everything and totalling everything from all the shows and movies. It simply doesn't add up. Also I've been slowly rewriting my own version of the clone wars. First off.... this war took 20 years. The very first batch of basic clone troops at Geonosis.... 2.5 mill. Not 200k. Although this video does help break it down numbers wise. I like this video. Good job.
Let’s be honest the 501st Legion by itself couldn’t even take WW2 Earth.
At 1.2 million in the beginning months of the clone wars the entire GAR likely wouldn’t either based on the “official” numbers. Even with the technological advantage
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Clones were put into secor armies or cores. Cores are like the new republic's 7th fleet they go where they are needed. Cores are divided into for smaller units until they reach the 4 man squads.
Secor armies are more flexible in design as to the needs of the sector.
All I always assumed units were divisions.
Yo geet, could you run some more poles over various topics in the discord?
The problem is Padme was trying to stop 1 Million more clones from being bought and that was made to look huge in the Clone wars but if there were 500 Million then what's 1 million more i don't feel like 1 million would be a big deal to your 500 Million scale army.
Random question. When darth bane introduced the rule of two and he said that the dark side was like venom being less potent when it was spread out more, was this a physical thing that the two remaining sith were actually stronger in the force or more of a principle thing with there being less infighting and the strongest sith being chosen.
Probably a practicality thing. Since sith by nature are always scheming against each other, might as well mitigate the number of potential rivals to the lowest possible point.
It was principle, but because of that principle they did end up becoming stronger, because all Sith Lords would have been trained in all Sith techniques to ensure their survival
It kind of seems like he thought it was a physical thing, but there's not much evidence to back that up. There may be a finite amount of dark side energy in the galaxy at any one time, but dark side Force users seem capable of producing more of that energy, and can certainly produce it indirectly by doing evil things. Also, the Dark Side itself seems to have a will, so maybe having less people competing for its attention could allow it to pay more personal attention to each of its followers rather than dividing its attention between many people--though in every era but the one Bane was in, there were a few major dark lords and everyone else was effectively cannon fodder, so I don't know how much that holds up. Also, it is quite possible to see the Dark Side as actively working against its own interests, or rather against the things we think of as its interests: destroying its strongest artefacts and the beings and empires most under its control, often by deliberately dashing them against the unbreakable rock that is the Jedi Order. If that is the correct interpretation, then more personal attention from the Dark Side is the last thing a Sith would want.
Yeah, scaling always seems way off. It's like the writers never looked up the numbers just for ww2. You would need hundreds of Billions or trillions if not more for multiple system spanning war fronts.
What I was confused about is when all the clones killed their generals...well jedi but they all say general, is after Order 66 did they continue to fight off the separatist forces or did they all leave
I wonder how many credits did one standard Jango clone cost
I think that maybe 75 million to 100 million would work because yes there was about a million planets in the republic but there weren't a million battles at once. At most we have about 2 thousand to 4 thousand battles at once since the CIS had 10,000 to 20,000 world's. If we do the math we get 20,000 clones per battle. That's a lot of clones for a single planet. Why is that a lot of clones for a single planet? Well on top of orbital strikes, human conscripts, planetary defense forces and the fact that the entire planet isn't defended at all times only certain areas and at most a single hemisphere it's pretty big.
Now if we have 6,500,000 clones and 800 battles happening at once we get 8,125
Your video is amazing but "units" one could argue that how the Kaminos saw the clone not as a person or soldier but as a thing
Kylo Ren: "You have no idea how sickening this is to us. Forced to live here in the Unknown Regions after you people destroyed our Empire. And then there are people like you, Rey. Judging us, treating us like we are the criminals. The Resistance won't protect you forever, Jedi. We will march through them and take the rest of the Galaxy."
Kylo Ren said this?
Nah, this quote was from a game. Just edited this to make is sound like Kylo said this.
What if it was 3 million platoons not individual clones? So thats 3 platoons each not 3 clones each? They could of also had 3 million batches not counting them as 1 but 3 million batches? The clones arnt treated as singles and always treated as units or squads or batches so if you look at it that way there would be the 3 million starting but the 3 million would not be like how we think but by how they think.
Maybe that m was meant to be a b or a t. 3 billion makes tons more sense than 3 million, 3 trillion even more sense
Oh how about this for a What If? Only a select few Jedi actually served in the Clone Wars, while Yoda orders the Order itself to become neutral and mediators during it. What happens, do the Jedi fall for the same trap or do they subvert that staying in the role they should have been?
Love the video very logicall. I never agreed with the cannon number of clones way too small this video should be cannon. Has a real number of clonetroopers to fight a droid of army mind you at its lowest estimated to have 100 million and at its highest 1 quadrillion.
I said it probably had at least 250 million clones in the war
i can't find lothal on the map
Echharts ladder said that the clone army was 6 million strong
A unit is at smallest a squad or company.
In the Complete Locations book it says 192,000 clones were deployed in the 1st battle of Geonosis and 1,000,000 droids were deployed so, yeah The Clone Wars era has some weird numbers and btw, the 1million droids were only B1s
Hey can u do the estimate amount of droids manufacturered in a future vid?
100 quintillion
Yea, if they can lose entire fleets and forces if troopers, they have more than 6 mil, I’d think like at least 300 million
yeehaw
I wonder which conflict was more large scale: the clone wars, the great jedi purge the galactic civil war or the yuuzhan voong war?
Im pretty sure that the yuuzhan vong war was the biggest. Trillions died during the war.
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It's also very ironic that the participants of the wars i listed fought each other only to work together against a greater threat i also meant where each war was fought along with casualties
Vong War, followed by the Clone Wars, followed by the Galactic Civil War, followed by the Purge
Either Yuuzhan Vong War or Clone Wars. For total casualties, probably Vong, since the entirety of one faction was in favor of genocide. Total number of battles and total number of soldiers involved, I'm less sure about.
Clones: Apes together strong
did clones do paperwork for the republic?
They were many clones.many clones.and now those human and alien stormtroopers cant even hit a rock thats 1 ft away
For me the clone army is a billion strong
What game is the image from 4:27 from ?
This is one of the biggest questions I’ve had about Star Wars lore. This has always been a huge plot hole in the back of my mind that I couldn’t stop thinking about and I always imagined it would never be answered. You just did in the best explanation possible. Great. No. Phenomenal video! Will definitely share this with anybody who may be interested in the topic. Geetyls #1