one of the things that just absolutely blows my mind about a narc: they KNOW they are evil. They KNOW they hurt and use people and they just don't care but HOW DARE anyone, talk about them in a negative manner or confront them. They put on this act that they feel so BETRAYED, when that happens.
That’s because they think others are less than dog poop under their shoes - they think ‘how dare you criticise me, you are nothing’. That is why - they are seriously mentally ill.
Narcissism equates to energy vampires! That's the best way I can explain it to myself; narcissists are like energy vampires; they will take and take without giving anything in return. I remember getting off the phone with a narcissistic friend at the time, (not realizing the impact until later). After every call, I felt completely drained of energy, but couldn't figure out why. When I mentioned this to the person that they were an energy vampire, they dismissed it by telling me "Go, talk to your imaginary friend Anne." That's when I realized I needed to set boundaries for myself.
My life reminds me of an old black & white movie of Dracula. He had a man as his slave named "Renfield". A sickly gray faced ,no mind of his own, dupe. After 23 years my spouse turned me into Renfield. I am recovering slowly. I am thankful for this website. I have to thank Danish & thanks 2U. No one knows what narc abuse is like better than another whos been abused by a narcississt.
Bless you, dear Heart. This is my story too. 25 years married to a monster, he nearly drained me of life. Couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, dropped down to under 100lbs. Nobody can possibly understand this level of abuse unless they have lived it. 1 year post divorce and I'm getting better.... never give up!
A narc will always try to make you look bad so they can look good. Funny. Only the smart ones will see through them. Thanks Danish for all your wisdom and expertise.
That's true, but then as you're trying to get away from them and find support, the victims resemble the narc. It's very difficult for those outside of the situation to see the difference between the narcissist and their victim, sadly. It's a very lonely place for a victim of a narcissist.
They suck your energy and your spirit amongst other things. It's mentally and emotionally draining!!! I'm so grateful for this knowledge and was able to see without a shadow of a doubt who I'm dealing with because for so many years, I just couldn't figure out what in the world was going on. Now that I know, I can let him go without any regrets ... It's ALL on him!!! I'm blessed I didn't lose my mind ❤. Peace and Blessings to all of you 🙏🏼
You are so right everything you have said I felt it all I just got over that it took a long time I said the same thing I didn’t lose my mind. It was rough now he gone to one of his ex I feel so peaceful now.💜
Same thing happened to me...he kept circling back to me...for years and years..finally 5 years ago I read about narcissist and he fit the profile to a T..I cut off all communication with him and started therapy..I feel like I escaped from prison...😅
I am not a narcissist but suffering from some of these things due to being scapegoated, childhood and abandonment trauma, narcissistic abuse from siblings, relatives, spouse, the troop of monkeys etc. Now I rather stay by myself trying to heal myself from the 40+ years of it. They won't stop coming for more ...
I completely relate to be being scape-goated :( It is a horrible, isolating feeling. Dealing with a narcissistic family feels like a never-ending nightmare.
I too grew up in a toxic home and was the scapegoat. I developed many coping mechanisms. I developed a victim mindset and constantly having to defend myself. Now I question whether I became a covert vulnerable narcissist myself. I feel like I’m suffering a complete narcissistic collapse. Deep depression and no desire to live. I always play the victim to get sympathy. All this is a recent discovery. Not sure if I’m a narcissist or just severely damaged and developed warped coping mechanisms. I’m so miserable and such a state of despair I do not want to go on living.
@@keithhowell1590They will make you question if you are the narcissist all along! You can also develop coping strategies just like them while dealing with them! I think you’re in the worst of it, but can head towards the light ✨ You’re doing great by questioning yourself! Try also to break down all barriers of others’ voices in your head of who & what you are. Work on your hurting inner child 💖 Keep going with these videos & online support communities. Find the good in you again & nurture it 🙏
About 1000% sure mine is going through this now … no one is catering to his pitty parties no one is sending him money like they used to he’s alone in a broke moldy camper and an illegal car all of his own doing an choices , he’s definitely on the road of collapse
Peace be with you! But also, be careful; he's at his most dangerous/desperate, right now. As my mother approached the point of realizing she was losing control, she accused the (few) people still around her of every abuse imaginable. I had to get in the habit of recording (legal in my state) any and all interactions with her, for my own protection, because she'd accused me of verbal/emotional abuse and threatened to report me to Elderly Affairs, (even though she was the one being abusive.)
Thank you! This is excellent. My father is a narcissist and destroyed me in high school. He turned on me, became paranoid, blamed me all the time even though I felt such compassion - he refused to see the compassion. It was like he wiped me out of his world, like he hated me, like he pulled a plug and stopped loving me. He would only be mean to me.
Narcissist truly helps you in only 1 way , when you have gone through extreme Childhood and Societal Trauma and you have been stranded in those situations alone without help , thereafter if u encounter & be with a narcissist for a while then their gas lighting, blames, victim card really helps to break your own psychological barrier and gives partly idea about how society/people work and the next stage of human growth is strengthening emotional quotient, if you don't have a strong EQ , you'll miss everything sensitive around you , hurt or destroy it and be stuck in psychological web of society.... So much to learn on this journey before reaching the final destination of being a full fledged human. I am not the mind neither the body !!
Danish, when I started reading and watching all these videos by you, Dr Ramani, Dr Les Carter and others my whole life and damage from my family dynamics made sense. I’d be the one always confronting my mother on her mind games, her favoritism towards my narcissistic older sister who was doing everything she could to get my parents’ love and approval. Well, the game is over. My parents are both gone and nobody wants anything to do with our sister. Narcissists do not get better- only worse.
On your 4th point: My husband had a weird case of mania which was so bizarre for this put-together, in control professor. I was away for the weekend with two friends and he was just returning from a holiday to France with a friend, who happens to be a woman! He knew it was wrong, but he did it anyway. So, when he called, I was having a lovely dinner with my friends and I had music playing through a Bluetooth speaker. When I saw he was calling (something he rarely did when he wasn't worried about losing me), I wondered aloud whether I should should pick up. They encouraged me to do so (remember, Bluetooth was activated). This euphoric voice launched in, excitedly telling me that he'd just spoken with his travel companion/would-be girlfriend and they'd agreed to "bury their love!" I watched the jaws of my friends drop to the ground and told him he was on speaker phone. He didn't care. He was positively giddy! I was so glad I had witnesses! No one would have believed it was my husband. Just when you think you've seen it all... It was truly bizarre.
Amen. Let the healing begin. I will never trust a narcissist or anyone with these traits. Question: can they also be a psychopath or sociopath? Let us know. Thank you for this information. All narcs go down 😢 their own fault. Price they pay when messing with others. The bible talks a little about narcissistic traits too. We must be strong and beware. 🙏✌️
Healing the Sacral, Solar and Heart Chakra can greatly help. If they FEEL better they may act and do better. They are basically full of fear and anxiety. Then another person's love and support may help, but before the chakra healing IT WILL NOT HELP AT ALL! They live in Victim Mentality and YOU are their villian in their story. Love and Light🥰
These steps are very true! I have tried to get my husband help several times but to no avail. He snows everyone who is a professional. One however, was on to his narcissistic behavior. Yet let it all slide, to keep him coming to the office. Maybe dollar signs were in view! All this information is exactly what is displayed in my house.
I know someone who is in the phase of collapse, his whole family have banished him and his wife and children are in living in hiding from him. He is a very bad mental state ; has extreme paranoia and often asks ' is he real?'
I was in a narcissist relationship for 15 years married to my ex-wife and the last five years of our marriage, I was breaking out in hives, depression, anxiety, and I had a heighten case of paranoia. It was more like a social anxiety, like I never felt comfortable, no matter where I was at.
This is awful!! I feel extreme compassion for anyone that is this troubled inside!! There’s got to be a way to gently persuade them to get help! Knowone should live in that kind of pain”
Their brains are physiologically damaged and no one can convince me anymore that this was childhood trauma. You can't fix the devil, so don't be sad for him. There is a lot of pain in the world of people who didn't become evil. Help them!😢
@@nsvshhw I will add: insecurity and anger and all the rest of the stress anxiety that people experience regardless of where they fall on the scale, is an attack, influence or strong hold of the kingdom of darkness. Yes these attacks can affect the mind!! That’s the end game.” Follow Jesus and His Kingdom and it’s there and through Him alone that there deliverance, peace and a sound mind. The battlefield is the mind and Satan since the garden is still roaming about seeking whom he may devour.
Hi. Thank you! I loved this and it was right on! Especially the framing part. I was healed through a spiritual awakening via more of a triad psychopath avenue. I observed extreme evil. When I surrendered and let go, I was given a vision. I was in hell next to an Angel and across two demons and the rapist terrorist was laying face down. They picked up from the floor an illuminated light blue orb. I placed it in my chest and felt immediate relief. I was told I could stay in the dark land of illusion and false beliefs with my light (my gift of grace - 7th seal) or go to the light. I chose the light. Well. The old me did. That was the last time I knew me as an individual identity. Afterwards I just became awareness. Bliss - the kind I guess people talk about when you die. Timeless nothingness and no thought but a knowing of home. Then from the nothing, a particle. Then many particles. Then the rest of the experience of creation and eternal high knowledge. Or the knowing. It heals the body. There is a harmonic balance in the universe. It’s beautiful. Anyone going through suffering, this is essential to knowing the core being. It is peace, joy, love, bliss, eternal - never changing and can never be taken from you nor can it be damaged. Being raped, humiliated, slandered, killed - will not touch you. What it will do, is dissolve false beliefs. Love to all!!!! ❤
My ex girlfriend covert narcissist is in big trouble. She has lost her looks and is crumbling from rheumatoid arthritis. Will never learn from mistakes. She hibernates. Newly divorced and her ex husband lives in an apartment and visits her . He put up security cameras. 😮. She doesn’t think he has the code . She is a LPN takes ambien every day drinks heavily. Before I left, she was vomiting from her rheumatoid arthritis medication you see her doctor upped her dose from once a month to four times a month. Nodules on her elbows curled toes. I tried to be kind to her and understand her health problems, but she wouldn’t take my kindness. She kept lying and cheating and doing everything she could to push me away. Well, she finally succeeded. I’ve been un married for 25 years moving on with my life is my life story. God bless everybody.
I refuse to face the truth, punished myself thus went into depression. I don’t want to hurt anyone but then I realised I’m making people suffer unwantedly when I’m in depression. So, I worked on myself. There is one way to make everyone happy that is to be happy no by going after materialistic things but just accepting and enjoying the surroundings as is.
I have to say that I had most of these too after the discard ....but I am a codependent raised by a narcissist and married with a narcissist. Does that mean that I am a narcissist too? 😮 ok but I am in recovery....it makes me very sad because even if he abused me so much I don't want him to suffer without healing 😢
I think he should touch on this. As you go though discard and even abuse, you will mirror the Narc a bit. I've seen other videos of this confirmed. It's a learned behavior, but as we heal, it goes away. We want to heal and we're self aware. They are not.
Yes you are probably right. I saw some videos talking about narcisstic flies, Sam Vaknin explained that they project all their bad traits into us and that we absorb it and are infected with this virus until we heal. Yes we can heal. I hope....it's a long journey. But they don't even try to heal. They are not looking for help and ready to do all this inner work. Thank you, I wish you the best.
I asked my narc if she ever was diagnosed with NPD. She said “oh no I already had cancer of the body, but that is cancer of the soul!” Who knows about this stuff and says it’s cancer of the soul unless they are one or are a victim of it? Idk why she said it like that- to be too obvious to believe or to seek sympathy or she’s in denial.
I saw mine in this state twice in forty years. He pretended to have depression and stayed in his room for most of a month. If he came out for food, he would look at me with hate, all the time whispering stuff to himself. I didn't know about npd then, I just thought he was insane and scary.
My Yoga teacher, Ramiro Calle, who has been to India so much that he is a well known in many ciuntries of the world as a great specialist on Hinduism and yoga, who has written an enormous quantity of books on such things, also got attacked by my sister and her group of Catholic militants and friends. She heard about him because of me, I live in Spain. The long arm of the Church allows them to get militants on to ,even a person in another country. They, as is their want, as an extra way of scaring people also attacked his son, at least his wifes son. His adopted son. .
I’m sorry but what of those after narcissistic abuse who are stuck with absolutely no support themselves and I’ve been looking so hard for some support. I’m stuck feeling like I’m in this cycle that you’re describing I have no one in my corner, so are you saying I’m a narcissist, because I desperately need some love and support.
My ex started living in his van. He started getting bugs and insects in his beard and hair. He grew his beard very long. He stopped taking care of himself. He was angry with everyone. It's hard to understand why he chose this over a normal life.
At this particular moment I am going through withdrawal symptoms. I kicked my covert narcissist ex wife out in February but it has been longer than that since I have touched/held a woman or a woman has touched me. I don’t really want to because my love language is touch and I don’t want to be a man who is viewed as a woman user. My dad has been that all his life during and after his teenage years. I don’t believe women are objects and neither are men but I am lonely for sure. Just a few more days and hopefully I’ll snap out of it.
What does it mean to “fade away”. I mean it’s not like they die. What happens after a narcissistic collapse? Can they recover? Can you be a recovering narcissist?
@Danish Bashir what if the narcissist is currently with another narcissist and that woman knew about the 1st person all along. He had a stroke and now she has to take care of him. It would be a trip if she dumped him and he had to to an assisted living center.
I have a sister who, when I listened to you, ticked all the boxes for a narcisist but had another theoretict reason for attacking so many, so often, for attacking all, were to cure them of their sins. All this is more complicated because the religious end it really serms to serve is to turn every one into militants in the secret hope of making all so afraidof being attacked that they will do what she. wants in order to try to prevent the blackening. She even tries to take away everyones partners at the same time trying to oblige them to marry some person she chooses for them. Do narcidists get supply from making others do what they want? I have suffered these behaviour even from a person she knew in Holy Orders as well as from militants in her group. They accused me of sins and if I denied such just went on accusing me of such periodically, though they did not all seem to be like a narcisists it is my sister and her friend a priest who seem to be such. . It makes me wonder if a person can be turned into one.I feel inadeqiate about myself as many many people do in some ways and have my own faults so to have more faults put on me is very frightening. Being asked again and again to admite sins you have not done is to be blackened and is horrible The militants blacken all my family members as well as accusing them of sins, in pursuit of aislating them, though the attacks are supposed to be in order to clean their souls, aislating them, also so blackening them by trying to make them confess sins so as to make all into militants in turn for the Church. My, militant for the church, sister convinced my brother to pay a priest to get me targeted 30 years ago bcause I had so liked Buddhism and yoga. Convinced by mymiilitant sister that I was not alright. . My brother asked the priest if I liked the Catholic attention the militants wereI lived gave me. He said yes, but later my brother heard that this man knew I had not liked it. I supected my family of organising this for me but did not know how to confront them with i My brother himself was being attacked and blackened and is so to this day and so were my other to sisters. When I read your site, then every thing you said ticked the box for my militant sister. I was so grateful for your description of narcisism. My childrem got attacked as well as did all thier cousins.
Does anyone have experience with a narcissistic couple? We are dealing with a couple who seem to be both narcissistic ie. employers. Thought two narcissists couldn't live and work together.
I talked commenting on one of your talks, of my teacher and long distance friend, Ramiro Calle, of how my Catholic sister, who lives in Belfast, had gone for and hurt his son. How?.you might well ask, as she lived in Belfast not Madrid. I have talked of it how before on other sights so forgot how crazy saying my sister attacked a Spaniard sounds. For one, her group, being of the Church, can get in touch with and influence Church members everywhere, who can then use their own to work on people in other countries. . One of their moves on this line was to get a group of Spanish Catholics into Ramiros more or less charge so as to control him, as he, as a pysiotherapist, as yoga people are, he looks after people, the ill for example. Also, so as to control who he marridd as a sevond wife. So they can get at people in other countries because the arm.of the church is long. He has taught many church people in Holy Orders to meditate. Being mean to him is then, biting the hand that fed them. My sisters group and from accounts of him, one English priest, a friend of hers, hate foriegn religions even Evangelism the last according to a friend of mine,. Hates other religions, so intensly that they try to stop hearing any speaker if such speak of even useful things from things of other religions. Being with them is like being with your proverbial, 'Hill Billy", your KKK. Also, but more madly, being "With someone in spirit", a Catholic phrase, which has seemed for me during the last thirty years, to mean telepathically, means that peope can be attacked in spirit, from.thousands of mikes away. So, Ramiros son could be made part of a militant group and later asked to take cocaine so as to work later hours for them and also harrassed so vety much as they do harrass people in my experiencefrom another country, by the use of telepathy. Tge use of telepathy by a grouo is a good way to go completely over the top and have ideologids that have gone mad, as it is a world whch no one or maybe just a few control. Also, Catholic militant group's members believe in endlessly morally attacking each other, for the good of each others souls so anyone working with them gets enormously harrassed. If you have been persuaded to take drugs and by those who like doctors, ask theirs to do enormously long work hours as the job is, sorta, charitable, not that doctors are asked to take cocaine, the person so used has a greater need for cocaine, than most. if on top of this, said person suffesr from vast quantities of harrassment, it is not to be suprised if you hear that he ended up taking heroine, which of course was a situation that could be used to greatly hamper his father, scared about the level of harrassment that could be applied to his son. This not only meant that Ramiro could be forced to talk in a veiled manner about Hinduism and such but it also meant that he, for fear of the harrassent of his son being upped, paid as if paying a decent wage to those that tortured his son. Tortured in many of the ways you describe when talking of narcicists. I was harrassed for years after studying Yoga but only in recent years found out about Ramiros situation. I had small children when this started and was older than Ramiros son and never got asked to work for them, my attitude to them being too negative though not then very vociferiously so, nor was I then harrassed as badly as he was, I was not a near yogui. so I was never asked to take cocaine for them. I read a bit of a book written by a woman who left the Opus Dei. She said that her principle reason for leaving this group was that they were required to use friendship so as to be abl e to tell on each other. If it was at anything like the rate which my sisters group use blackening each other then that includes throwing any wildest suspicion at each other and then insisting that wildest suspicions are proved truths then, this use of friendship in the opus dei was something much graver than I had thought it could be when I read of it something like twenty five years ago.
Oh yes, I know all about it! He lied about not talking to his high school sweetheart. I learned this from his best friend (who is married to my cousin). He finally told her he is an alcoholic and she quit talking to him. So, that's why he ended things with me! It all made sense then. He went into a narcissistic collapse and just quit talking to me! Wow! What a jerk.
Well, “my” narc (6 yrs) who dumped me out of the blue when he had a new (old flame from years back?) move in with him him, over night actually after standing me up for his breakfast plans, is finally getting a reality check that he is not in control. He’s burning through her money, but of course fighting publicly, all while trying to Hoover me…no thanks. But he’s no spring chicken now, no charms to sell, always broke, and now his years of tobacco (and other) have caught up to him. You can’t trick COPD. It’s pathetic to watch him strut by my house, shadow boxing, and “dancing” like he’s living it up. He’s not convincing anyone, particularly himself.
You're not missing much. Hes basically using very lazy psychology and words like "parasite" to slam an entire group of people suffering with a personality disorder.
So when you use the word collapse are you speaking about episodes of psychosis? Your video sounds like you are explaining one of my family members that was just 302-ed (forced into psychiatric treatment without their consent, here in the US).
This is excactly how it is… this break down … wondering is it adhd bi polar psychopath or what is it? Because of normal problems that everyone has, they’re dramatically changing the behavior and the problems and the situation and people inside this- so it happens like a 💥 panic attack of dimensions… shaking the life out of the close people around them…. Earth crake … You can see and experience the damage 😮 but it’s not possible to get it! Like they’re turning into something else
Isn't it so scary I'm 52 she's 72 don't know how old u r but if ur still young enough to have a life n future plz run run run it only gets worse I have absolutely nothing because of her she destroyed everything that meant something to me including my children the anger I feel now is because if only I knew this before 40 yrs ago but yet I still feel sorry for her she has absolutely nobody but me n I know she hates the sight of me but swears it's all me her useless loneylife is my fault I could go on n on but in the end she won because my emptiness brings her joy i honestly believe i will be the only one to pay my respects when it's time that is a horrible legacy n it's my mother... Wow my anxiety just gets worse thinking about my dreams n goals that were attainable n possible but I didn't give myself a chance because I thought something was wrong with me... Plz RUN N DONT LOOK BACK
Hi sir iam sudha. One of my friend affected and could you explain narcissistic person lives expan ? Did they get any disease in their life bcz all narcissistic person inside always not be happy then come come their life lives full of period. Could you explain me please ? Only victim suffering with crucial disease 😢 bcz they are very depressed. And please elaborate the victim they affected by which kind of diseases and this is useful for all people. I hope you will reply soon ☺️. thank you.i love yours video all amazing 😍
When you say, "They convince themselves that they are not real, do you mean, the them they are projecting is not real? It is hard listening to a specialist, they use the words of thier speciality which are normaly used for that topic specallists know what they mean when they use a word in one context. but it is hard for us other people to make out. You explaim, convincing themselves they are not themselves, later on but it is still.hard for e to catch all you a psycologist means by this. I keep watching bits of this video again and again so as to understand it all. .
I don't understand either . Prof. Sam Vankin says a narcissist isn't real, only a false self. So I don't understand exactly what he means by that either. Whether he is talking about dissociation or what. .. very confused
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Have you heard of Diana Diamond? She actually helps narassistic people to recover.
@@Mooky1300 Recover? NPD is apparently incurable in all the articles I've read, only manageable with medication and therapy.
one of the things that just absolutely blows my mind about a narc: they KNOW they are evil. They KNOW they hurt and use people and they just don't care but HOW DARE anyone, talk about them in a negative manner or confront them. They put on this act that they feel so BETRAYED, when that happens.
I know. The absurdity of them would be funny were it not for the devastating effect they have on people
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That’s because they think others are less than dog poop under their shoes - they think ‘how dare you criticise me, you are nothing’.
That is why - they are seriously mentally ill.
The only thing that matters to them is what others think of them. They have no identity or self esteem. It's really bizarre to me.
That’s the Devil. 🤷🏽♀️
Narcissism equates to energy vampires! That's the best way I can explain it to myself; narcissists are like energy vampires; they will take and take without giving anything in return. I remember getting off the phone with a narcissistic friend at the time, (not realizing the impact until later). After every call, I felt completely drained of energy, but couldn't figure out why. When I mentioned this to the person that they were an energy vampire, they dismissed it by telling me "Go, talk to your imaginary friend Anne." That's when I realized I needed to set boundaries for myself.
My life reminds me of an old black & white movie of Dracula. He had a man as his slave named "Renfield". A sickly gray faced ,no mind of his own, dupe.
After 23 years my spouse turned me into Renfield. I am recovering slowly. I am thankful for this website. I have to thank Danish & thanks 2U. No one knows what narc abuse is
like better than another whos been abused by a narcississt.
Bless you, dear Heart. This is my story too. 25 years married to a monster, he nearly drained me of life. Couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, dropped down to under 100lbs.
Nobody can possibly understand this level of abuse unless they have lived it.
1 year post divorce and I'm getting better.... never give up!
What a perfect analogy!
A narc will always try to make you look bad so they can look good. Funny. Only the smart ones will see through them. Thanks Danish for all your wisdom and expertise.
That's true, but then as you're trying to get away from them and find support, the victims resemble the narc. It's very difficult for those outside of the situation to see the difference between the narcissist and their victim, sadly. It's a very lonely place for a victim of a narcissist.
They suck your energy and your spirit amongst other things. It's mentally and emotionally draining!!! I'm so grateful for this knowledge and was able to see without a shadow of a doubt who I'm dealing with because for so many years, I just couldn't figure out what in the world was going on. Now that I know, I can let him go without any regrets ... It's ALL on him!!! I'm blessed I didn't lose my mind ❤. Peace and Blessings to all of you 🙏🏼
You are so right everything you have said I felt it all I just got over that it took a long time I said the same thing I didn’t lose my mind. It was rough now he gone to one of his ex I feel so peaceful now.💜
Same thing happened to me...he kept circling back to me...for years and years..finally 5 years ago I read about narcissist and he fit the profile to a T..I cut off all communication with him and started therapy..I feel like I escaped from prison...😅
@@sharonoverton9897 That's exactly what you did ... Escaped !!! It's definitely a prison.
Once you see narcissism, you can’t unsee it
I am not a narcissist but suffering from some of these things due to being scapegoated, childhood and abandonment trauma, narcissistic abuse from siblings, relatives, spouse, the troop of monkeys etc. Now I rather stay by myself trying to heal myself from the 40+ years of it. They won't stop coming for more ...
I completely relate to be being scape-goated :( It is a horrible, isolating feeling. Dealing with a narcissistic family feels like a never-ending nightmare.
@@BlinkinFirefly You are so right. I wish I could disappear from all of them. Despite the damages seem lasting, God is my strength and support.
I too grew up in a toxic home and was the scapegoat. I developed many coping mechanisms. I developed a victim mindset and constantly having to defend myself. Now I question whether I became a covert vulnerable narcissist myself. I feel like I’m suffering a complete narcissistic collapse. Deep depression and no desire to live. I always play the victim to get sympathy. All this is a recent discovery. Not sure if I’m a narcissist or just severely damaged and developed warped coping mechanisms. I’m so miserable and such a state of despair I do not want to go on living.
@@keithhowell1590They will make you question if you are the narcissist all along! You can also develop coping strategies just like them while dealing with them! I think you’re in the worst of it, but can head towards the light ✨ You’re doing great by questioning yourself! Try also to break down all barriers of others’ voices in your head of who & what you are. Work on your hurting inner child 💖 Keep going with these videos & online support communities. Find the good in you again & nurture it 🙏
I totally agree
About 1000% sure mine is going through this now … no one is catering to his pitty parties no one is sending him money like they used to he’s alone in a broke moldy camper and an illegal car all of his own doing an choices , he’s definitely on the road of collapse
Karma
Yes ... His Karma for sure !!
Peace be with you! But also, be careful; he's at his most dangerous/desperate, right now.
As my mother approached the point of realizing she was losing control, she accused the (few) people still around her of every abuse imaginable. I had to get in the habit of recording (legal in my state) any and all interactions with her, for my own protection, because she'd accused me of verbal/emotional abuse and threatened to report me to Elderly Affairs, (even though she was the one being abusive.)
Keep your distance. He’s at his most dangerous right now.
I hope he get a taste of his own Medicain
Thank you! This is excellent. My father is a narcissist and destroyed me in high school. He turned on me, became paranoid, blamed me all the time even though I felt such compassion - he refused to see the compassion. It was like he wiped me out of his world, like he hated me, like he pulled a plug and stopped loving me. He would only be mean to me.
I simply admire your clarity and observation and explanation Danish
So by the sounds of it they drive themselves insane in the long run.
Drag a lot of others with them!
The final last person abandons them, themselves.
They destroy everyone including themselves.
I think they are already insane to start with.
@@ekdaufin1485 if you let them . be strong.
VERY informative, Thank You. Now, to get them to leave me alone
Block, don't answer nor listen, don't acknowledge and that may only happen when they die, be grateful for small miracles.
@@joseenoel8093 This is in real time.
After I think I’ve heard everything about narcissistic people , you come up with one I am interested to hear , like this one , thanks
Narcissist truly helps you in only 1 way , when you have gone through extreme Childhood and Societal Trauma and you have been stranded in those situations alone without help , thereafter if u encounter & be with a narcissist for a while then their gas lighting, blames, victim card really helps to break your own psychological barrier and gives partly idea about how society/people work and the next stage of human growth is strengthening emotional quotient, if you don't have a strong EQ , you'll miss everything sensitive around you , hurt or destroy it and be stuck in psychological web of society.... So much to learn on this journey before reaching the final destination of being a full fledged human. I am not the mind neither the body !!
Excellent education 🎉
Danish, when I started reading and watching all these videos by you, Dr Ramani, Dr Les Carter and others my whole life and damage from my family dynamics made sense. I’d be the one always confronting my mother on her mind games, her favoritism towards my narcissistic older sister who was doing everything she could to get my parents’ love and approval. Well, the game is over. My parents are both gone and nobody wants anything to do with our sister. Narcissists do not get better- only worse.
Demons are real!
On your 4th point: My husband had a weird case of mania which was so bizarre for this put-together, in control professor. I was away for the weekend with two friends and he was just returning from a holiday to France with a friend, who happens to be a woman! He knew it was wrong, but he did it anyway. So, when he called, I was having a lovely dinner with my friends and I had music playing through a Bluetooth speaker. When I saw he was calling (something he rarely did when he wasn't worried about losing me), I wondered aloud whether I should should pick up. They encouraged me to do so (remember, Bluetooth was activated). This euphoric voice launched in, excitedly telling me that he'd just spoken with his travel companion/would-be girlfriend and they'd agreed to "bury their love!" I watched the jaws of my friends drop to the ground and told him he was on speaker phone. He didn't care. He was positively giddy! I was so glad I had witnesses! No one would have believed it was my husband. Just when you think you've seen it all... It was truly bizarre.
Just a follow up... I got out a few months later! 🎉
Oh my goodness...that is a WILD ONE..stay safe... incredible story wow
@christinemungertgabk God you did7054
Amen. Let the healing begin. I will never trust a narcissist or anyone with these traits. Question: can they also be a psychopath or sociopath? Let us know. Thank you for this information. All narcs go down 😢 their own fault. Price they pay when messing with others. The bible talks a little about narcissistic traits too. We must be strong and beware. 🙏✌️
Nobody explains these things better than you!
Healing the Sacral, Solar and Heart Chakra can greatly help. If they FEEL better they may act and do better. They are basically full of fear and anxiety. Then another person's love and support may help, but before the chakra healing IT WILL NOT HELP AT ALL! They live in Victim Mentality and YOU are their villian in their story. Love and Light🥰
I think that only works if you're open to it. I've tried this and it doesn't work. Only for myself because I'm open to it.
The trauma recovery stage of hyper vigilance from an npd is similar to the extreme paranoia phase of the npd
Excellent message. now I understand why a family member was acting the way you described that behavior of a narcissist. Thank you.
Prayers Psalm 23 -73🙏🇯🇲👑🩺
I highly recommend the book MIND GAMES The Dual Facets of Manipulation and Dark Psychology
These steps are very true! I have tried to get my husband help several times but to no avail. He snows everyone who is a professional. One however, was on to his narcissistic behavior. Yet let it all slide, to keep him coming to the office. Maybe dollar signs were in view! All this information is exactly what is displayed in my house.
I know someone who is in the phase of collapse, his whole family have banished him and his wife and children are in living in hiding from him. He is a very bad mental state
; has extreme paranoia and often asks ' is he real?'
I was in a narcissist relationship for 15 years married to my ex-wife and the last five years of our marriage, I was breaking out in hives, depression, anxiety, and I had a heighten case of paranoia. It was more like a social anxiety, like I never felt comfortable, no matter where I was at.
This is awful!! I feel extreme compassion for anyone that is this troubled inside!! There’s got to be a way to gently persuade them to get help! Knowone should live in that kind of pain”
Their brains are physiologically damaged and no one can convince me anymore that this was childhood trauma. You can't fix the devil, so don't be sad for him. There is a lot of pain in the world of people who didn't become evil. Help them!😢
@@nsvshhw my heart hurts because the one I can’t help is my adult daughter
@@nsvshhw I will add: insecurity and anger and all the rest of the stress anxiety that people experience regardless of where they fall on the scale, is an attack, influence or strong hold of the kingdom of darkness. Yes these attacks can affect the mind!! That’s the end game.” Follow Jesus and His Kingdom and it’s there and through Him alone that there deliverance, peace and a sound mind. The battlefield is the mind and Satan since the garden is still roaming about seeking whom he may devour.
Hi. Thank you! I loved this and it was right on! Especially the framing part. I was healed through a spiritual awakening via more of a triad psychopath avenue. I observed extreme evil. When I surrendered and let go, I was given a vision. I was in hell next to an Angel and across two demons and the rapist terrorist was laying face down. They picked up from the floor an illuminated light blue orb. I placed it in my chest and felt immediate relief. I was told I could stay in the dark land of illusion and false beliefs with my light (my gift of grace - 7th seal) or go to the light. I chose the light. Well. The old me did. That was the last time I knew me as an individual identity. Afterwards I just became awareness. Bliss - the kind I guess people talk about when you die. Timeless nothingness and no thought but a knowing of home. Then from the nothing, a particle. Then many particles. Then the rest of the experience of creation and eternal high knowledge. Or the knowing. It heals the body.
There is a harmonic balance in the universe. It’s beautiful.
Anyone going through suffering, this is essential to knowing the core being. It is peace, joy, love, bliss, eternal - never changing and can never be taken from you nor can it be damaged. Being raped, humiliated, slandered, killed - will not touch you. What it will do, is dissolve false beliefs.
Love to all!!!! ❤
Great 📸 video, so insightful. Thank-you .
Interesting, that look exactly like what a narc victim can experience / betrayal trauma
Wow....what a lesson!....wow what a depth of self induced psychopathy.....almost unimaginable the length a person would go to, to not grow up. 9:33
Last ditch effort for supply. The collapse look at me suffer. Its a form of supply.
My ex girlfriend covert narcissist is in big trouble. She has lost her looks and is crumbling from rheumatoid arthritis. Will never learn from mistakes. She hibernates. Newly divorced and her ex husband lives in an apartment and visits her . He put up security cameras. 😮. She doesn’t think he has the code . She is a LPN takes ambien every day drinks heavily. Before I left, she was vomiting from her rheumatoid arthritis medication you see her doctor upped her dose from once a month to four times a month. Nodules on her elbows curled toes. I tried to be kind to her and understand her health problems, but she wouldn’t take my kindness. She kept lying and cheating and doing everything she could to push me away. Well, she finally succeeded.
I’ve been un married for 25 years moving on with my life is my life story. God bless everybody.
Great content, as always!
Call you anyway? They're so original burn out experts!
This demon is big, bigger and biggest. Shame.
Like a vampire low on blood." True Energy Vamps
I refuse to face the truth, punished myself thus went into depression. I don’t want to hurt anyone but then I realised I’m making people suffer unwantedly when I’m in depression. So, I worked on myself. There is one way to make everyone happy that is to be happy no by going after materialistic things but just accepting and enjoying the surroundings as is.
All you are saying is 100% true. Thank you
I have to say that I had most of these too after the discard ....but I am a codependent raised by a narcissist and married with a narcissist. Does that mean that I am a narcissist too? 😮 ok but I am in recovery....it makes me very sad because even if he abused me so much I don't want him to suffer without healing 😢
I think he should touch on this. As you go though discard and even abuse, you will mirror the Narc a bit. I've seen other videos of this confirmed. It's a learned behavior, but as we heal, it goes away. We want to heal and we're self aware. They are not.
Yes you are probably right. I saw some videos talking about narcisstic flies, Sam Vaknin explained that they project all their bad traits into us and that we absorb it and are infected with this virus until we heal. Yes we can heal. I hope....it's a long journey. But they don't even try to heal. They are not looking for help and ready to do all this inner work. Thank you, I wish you the best.
100% I can identify w/what you said. This was just like my father before he died.
I asked my narc if she ever was diagnosed with NPD. She said “oh no I already had cancer of the body, but that is cancer of the soul!” Who knows about this stuff and says it’s cancer of the soul unless they are one or are a victim of it? Idk why she said it like that- to be too obvious to believe or to seek sympathy or she’s in denial.
I saw mine in this state twice in forty years. He pretended to have depression and stayed in his room for most of a month.
If he came out for food, he would look at me with hate, all the time whispering stuff to himself.
I didn't know about npd then, I just thought he was insane and scary.
C-PTSD is also mistaken for Bipolar 😢
To all in the USA. my prayers are with you as Donny deals with his collapse.
Our prayers are with Joey as he deals with his dementia and demons, but thanks ✌🏻
Thanks very much for this very insightful video.
My Yoga teacher, Ramiro Calle, who has been to India so much that he is a well known in many ciuntries of the world as a great specialist on Hinduism and yoga, who has written an enormous quantity of books on such things, also got attacked by my sister and her group of Catholic militants and friends. She heard about him because of me, I live in Spain. The long arm of the Church allows them to get militants on to ,even a person in another country. They, as is their want, as an extra way of scaring people also attacked his son, at least his wifes son. His adopted son. .
They are Rotten Deep Within...😂 YES THEY ARE!
They run out of victims to abuse? They collapse? I wish to see this live.
That’s actually scary.
Assumptions are a big part of a narcissist annoying trate
I’m sorry but what of those after narcissistic abuse who are stuck with absolutely no support themselves and I’ve been looking so hard for some support. I’m stuck feeling like I’m in this cycle that you’re describing I have no one in my corner, so are you saying I’m a narcissist, because I desperately need some love and support.
My husband would go through these fazes
Sadly 😥 our churches ⛪️ are full 😢 of them. Be careful when you meet someone in church. Go slowly 🐌 and ask God to give 🙏 🙌 you discernment.
Great informative video! Accurate.
My ex started living in his van. He started getting bugs and insects in his beard and hair. He grew his beard very long. He stopped taking care of himself. He was angry with everyone. It's hard to understand why he chose this over a normal life.
Sadly 😢 my mother is a narcissist & ít led to myself and both my sister's had a very hard time & we self medicated
Doesn't this also reflect what the victim will go through?
Seems to me that a lot of these professionals specializing in Narcissism are themselves, narcissists
This is very true.
Great info thank you very much ☮️✝️💖
At this particular moment I am going through withdrawal symptoms. I kicked my covert narcissist ex wife out in February but it has been longer than that since I have touched/held a woman or a woman has touched me.
I don’t really want to because my love language is touch and I don’t want to be a man who is viewed as a woman user. My dad has been that all his life during and after his teenage years.
I don’t believe women are objects and neither are men but I am lonely for sure. Just a few more days and hopefully I’ll snap out of it.
Hey Danish, some of that information could answer the question “why did the narcissist move on so fast?”.
What does it mean to “fade away”. I mean it’s not like they die. What happens after a narcissistic collapse? Can they recover? Can you be a recovering narcissist?
@Danish Bashir what if the narcissist is currently with another narcissist and that woman knew about the 1st person all along. He had a stroke and now she has to take care of him. It would be a trip if she dumped him and he had to to an assisted living center.
Danish is it possible that after Post narcisistic abuse a person show this symptoms.?
Thank Ks my ex will never be while what a journey I’m good without that in my life
I have a sister who, when I listened to you, ticked all the boxes for a narcisist but had another theoretict reason for attacking so many, so often, for attacking all, were to cure them of their sins. All this is more complicated because the religious end it really serms to serve is to turn every one into militants in the secret hope of making all so afraidof being attacked that they will do what she. wants in order to try to prevent the blackening.
She even tries to take away everyones partners at the same time trying to oblige them to marry some person she chooses for them.
Do narcidists get supply from making others do what they want?
I have suffered these behaviour even from a person she knew in Holy Orders as well as from militants in her group.
They accused me of sins and if I denied such just went on accusing me of such periodically, though they did not all seem to be like a narcisists it is my sister and her friend a priest who seem to be such.
. It makes me wonder if a person can be turned into one.I feel inadeqiate about myself as many many people do in some ways and have my own faults so to have more faults put on me is very frightening. Being asked again and again to admite sins you have not done is to be blackened and is horrible
The militants blacken all my family members as well as accusing them of sins, in pursuit of aislating them, though the attacks are supposed to be in order to clean their souls, aislating them, also so blackening them by trying to make them confess sins so as to make all into militants in turn for the Church.
My, militant for the church, sister convinced my brother to pay a priest to get me targeted 30 years ago bcause I had so liked Buddhism and yoga. Convinced by mymiilitant sister that I was not alright. . My brother asked the priest if I liked the Catholic attention the militants wereI lived gave me. He said yes, but later my brother heard that this man knew I had not liked it.
I supected my family of organising this for me but did not know how to confront them with i My brother himself was being attacked and blackened and is so to this day and so were my other to sisters.
When I read your site, then every thing you said ticked the box for my militant sister. I was so grateful for your description of narcisism.
My childrem got attacked as well as did all thier cousins.
So THAT is why they come crawling back!
What happens when they don’t come back from collapse?
Does anyone have experience with a narcissistic couple? We are dealing with a couple who seem to be both narcissistic ie. employers. Thought two narcissists couldn't live and work together.
Show those birds!!
I talked commenting on one of your talks, of my teacher and long distance friend, Ramiro Calle, of how my Catholic sister, who lives in Belfast, had gone for and hurt his son.
How?.you might well ask, as she lived in Belfast not Madrid. I have talked of it how before on other sights so forgot how crazy saying my sister attacked a Spaniard sounds.
For one, her group, being of the Church, can get in touch with and influence Church members everywhere, who can then use their own to work on people in other countries.
. One of their moves on this line was to get a group of Spanish Catholics into Ramiros more or less charge so as to control him, as he, as a pysiotherapist, as yoga people are, he looks after people, the ill for example. Also, so as to control who he marridd as a sevond wife. So they can get at people in other countries because the arm.of the church is long.
He has taught many church people in Holy Orders to meditate. Being mean to him is then, biting the hand that fed them. My sisters group and from accounts of him, one English priest, a friend of hers, hate foriegn religions even Evangelism the last according to a friend of mine,. Hates other religions, so intensly that they try to stop hearing any speaker if such speak of even useful things from things of other religions. Being with them is like being with your proverbial, 'Hill Billy", your KKK.
Also, but more madly, being "With someone in spirit", a Catholic phrase, which has seemed for me during the last thirty years, to mean telepathically, means that peope can be attacked in spirit, from.thousands of mikes away. So, Ramiros son could be made part of a militant group and later asked to take cocaine so as to work later hours for them and also harrassed so vety much as they do harrass people in my experiencefrom another country, by the use of telepathy.
Tge use of telepathy by a grouo is a good way to go completely over the top and have ideologids that have gone mad, as it is a world whch no one or maybe just a few control.
Also, Catholic militant group's members believe in endlessly morally attacking each other, for the good of each others souls so anyone working with them gets enormously harrassed. If you have been persuaded to take drugs and by those who like doctors, ask theirs to do enormously long work hours as the job is, sorta, charitable, not that doctors are asked to take cocaine, the person so used has a greater need for cocaine, than most. if on top of this, said person suffesr from vast quantities of harrassment, it is not to be suprised if you hear that he ended up taking heroine, which of course was a situation that could be used to greatly hamper his father, scared about the level of harrassment that could be applied to his son.
This not only meant that Ramiro could be forced to talk in a veiled manner about Hinduism and such but it also meant that he, for fear of the harrassent of his son being upped, paid as if paying a decent wage to those that tortured his son. Tortured in many of the ways you describe when talking of narcicists.
I was harrassed for years after studying Yoga but only in recent years found out about Ramiros situation.
I had small children when this started and was older than Ramiros son and never got asked to work for them, my attitude to them being too negative though not then very vociferiously so, nor was I then harrassed as badly as he was, I was not a near yogui. so I was never asked to take cocaine for them.
I read a bit of a book written by a woman who left the Opus Dei. She said that her principle reason for leaving this group was that they were required to use friendship so as to be abl e to tell on each other. If it was at anything like the rate which my sisters group use blackening each other then that includes throwing any wildest suspicion at each other and then insisting that wildest suspicions are proved truths then, this use of friendship in the opus dei was something much graver than I had thought it could be when I read of it something like twenty five years ago.
Oh yes, I know all about it! He lied about not talking to his high school sweetheart. I learned this from his best friend (who is married to my cousin). He finally told her he is an alcoholic and she quit talking to him. So, that's why he ended things with me! It all made sense then. He went into a narcissistic collapse and just quit talking to me! Wow! What a jerk.
When you say there's no recovering from it at the end of the video. Does that mean they just fail completely?
So, is there hope for these people. How about if I truly love this person. How can I help them?
No 1 is happening with me now . !
Well, “my” narc (6 yrs) who dumped me out of the blue when he had a new (old flame from years back?) move in with him him, over night actually after standing me up for his breakfast plans, is finally getting a reality check that he is not in control. He’s burning through her money, but of course fighting publicly, all while trying to Hoover me…no thanks.
But he’s no spring chicken now, no charms to sell, always broke, and now his years of tobacco (and other) have caught up to him. You can’t trick COPD. It’s pathetic to watch him strut by my house, shadow boxing, and “dancing” like he’s living it up. He’s not convincing anyone, particularly himself.
Denial is a river in Egypt
My ex threatened to kill himself when he thought I was gonna leave him.
What can cause narcissistic collapse?
I can't reconcile the narc/adhd/bipolar stream.
Mine did this and hung up the phone from my telling him I can’t come back to him.. 10 minutes later he committed suicide
I have no idea what this man is saying. Am I crazy?
You're not missing much. Hes basically using very lazy psychology and words like "parasite" to slam an entire group of people suffering with a personality disorder.
So when you use the word collapse are you speaking about episodes of psychosis? Your video sounds like you are explaining one of my family members that was just 302-ed (forced into psychiatric treatment without their consent, here in the US).
This is excactly how it is… this break down … wondering is it adhd bi polar psychopath or what is it? Because of normal problems that everyone has, they’re dramatically changing the behavior and the problems and the situation and people inside this- so it happens like a 💥 panic attack of dimensions… shaking the life out of the close people around them…. Earth crake …
You can see and experience the damage 😮 but it’s not possible to get it! Like they’re turning into something else
Isn't it so scary I'm 52 she's 72 don't know how old u r but if ur still young enough to have a life n future plz run run run it only gets worse I have absolutely nothing because of her she destroyed everything that meant something to me including my children the anger I feel now is because if only I knew this before 40 yrs ago but yet I still feel sorry for her she has absolutely nobody but me n I know she hates the sight of me but swears it's all me her useless loneylife is my fault I could go on n on but in the end she won because my emptiness brings her joy i honestly believe i will be the only one to pay my respects when it's time that is a horrible legacy n it's my mother... Wow my anxiety just gets worse thinking about my dreams n goals that were attainable n possible but I didn't give myself a chance because I thought something was wrong with me... Plz RUN N DONT LOOK BACK
Hi sir iam sudha. One of my friend affected and could you explain narcissistic person lives expan ? Did they get any disease in their life bcz all narcissistic person inside always not be happy then come come their life lives full of period. Could you explain me please ? Only victim suffering with crucial disease 😢 bcz they are very depressed. And please elaborate the victim they affected by which kind of diseases and this is useful for all people. I hope you will reply soon ☺️. thank you.i love yours video all amazing 😍
I think they are not normal or mad people 😮
Vampire!
Wow!! This is my mother to a T!
Thank you for pointing these out ❤❤❤-Xclusyph Icon
Is there a way to get someone u know is married to a narcissist to join this course if they are not willing to even talk about this ??
My max s
All of these characteristics describe the mind and world of the modern woman.
Sleep all day not eat
I kinda feel bad for narcissists..they didn't ask to be traumatized as a child and then face life as a pariah..
When you say, "They convince themselves that they are not real, do you mean, the them they are projecting is not real?
It is hard listening to a specialist, they use the words of thier speciality which are normaly used for that topic specallists know what they mean when they use a word in one context. but it is hard for us other people to make out.
You explaim, convincing themselves they are not themselves, later on but it is still.hard for e to catch all you a psycologist means by this. I keep watching bits of this video again and again so as to understand it all. .
I don't understand either . Prof. Sam Vankin says a narcissist isn't real, only a false self. So I don't understand exactly what he means by that either. Whether he is talking about dissociation or what. .. very confused
Hello bashir
??why do they cover mirrors 🪞 🤔 ❤...