The Violin Deception: Can You Really Believe What You See?
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Are your eyes deceiving you? Dive into a unique musical experiment in this episode as we explore how visuals can influence our auditory perception. Using three distinct violins, we put our senses to the test. Can you pick the same violin without knowing which one is being played? Join us on this fascinating journey that blurs the line between seeing and hearing. Don't forget to share your thoughts and choices in the comments. And if you enjoy our content, hit that 'like' button and subscribe for more intriguing musical explorations. Tune in and let's challenge our senses together.
Violin by Hans Johansson, 2022
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Violin by Colin Cross, 2022
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Violin by Dario Vettori, 2022
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The Johansson violin has a unique quality and depth in the lower register, and I guessed it right in the blind version, and it was my favorite!
Ariel, you have shown how a talented musician can make the instruments sound their best. Fabulous. While I was rooting for the Colin Cross violin I have to say it was the low register on the Johansson that did it for me. A lovely rounded warm sound 😊
Hi Rob, many thanks for your kind words. We also love the Johannsson, it seems to be a popular choice!
@@MyLuthierUK I loved the Johannson but more for the rich high tones!
Got it. But I would enjoy and liked the video even if I guessed wrong, thank you.
Hi. My choice: Vettori, Johanson, Cross. For me a very important component of violin sound is the sensation of playing it. What is picked up by the jaw none on the 'chin' rest; the sensation in the left hand fingers - string height, string tension, string height..., the sensation in the right hand - bow hair tension against string tension; all the other sounds that you pick up from being very close - bow sound on strings, over tones, undertones; and the quality of response to the bow you get from playing... So, set up is very important too. And of course getting someone else to play for you while you listen and also watch how they play it. Thank you.
Hi, many thanks for your thoughtful comment! You're absolutely right that all these things play a valuable part in being able to differentiate violins. You put it down in words beautifully.
You play fantastic! The Dario fiddle needs more playing to open up I think. All were great though.
yes I picked the Vettori right in the blind test, love the sound
Good choice!
that hans johansson ... me like ! :D
HAHA -- I guessed it 100% correct. Good to know my ears are still working fine, and your playing was quite objective as well !
Great comparison. The Vettori was my favorite among these 3 !
Well done!
Superinteressante esse teste cego. Devo dizer que acertei na minha opinião referente à segunda versão tocada. E para mim o melhor som foi o do primeiro da segunda versão, ou último da primeira versão. Embora todos os três apresentem uma ótima sonoridade. Parabéns!
Johannson was my favorite. Sweet singing. Low end nice too.
Colin Cross 2nd.
Then on the dark video, I had these two reversed. Listened again and I guess they are fairly similar.
I didn't like the Vettori. It had a grainy sound.
Hi, thanks a lot for your comment! It's really interesting to hear your opinion, we really love the Johannsson as well!
My favorite is the Colin Cross violin for both prelude variants. There is something mystical about her. Many thanks for the wonderful Performance 🎻😊
Hi Angela, thanks for your comment! Well done for identifying the same violin and glad you like the Cross one :)
Same here. The Colin Cross's G string is so deep and full. I hear the difference by the high Bb on the G. It just sings more openly. My second favorite was the Johannsson, the notes on the G string are brighter. Vettori's violin is more brittle and the Bb on the G doesn't sing as well. Overall these are great sounding violins.
For me in the dark: V3 > V1 > V2
Agree!
Ótima ideia e um ótimo exercício para os ouvidos 😅
Vamos lá;
Na minha opinião o violino Hans Johansson, 2022 é o melhor entre os três, o verniz muito bonito, o som maravilhoso, muito equilibrado, respostas precisas, riquíssimo em harmônicos, som maduro, maravilhoso.
No teste cego ou no escuro, realmente bem difícil, mas o melhor som vai para o segundo violino que você tocou.
Sebastião Rodrigues, estudante de violino, do Brasil 🇧🇷
Abraço 😊👍
Yes! I liked the same violin guiding myself by the G-string sound which was the brighter in Dario Vettori!
Got it right 😄
According to first clip
First violin: projectile sound, flat direct sound, more like a soloist violin which need more projection
Second violin: it just give me a feeling of listing to my own violin 😅 that’s why I can recognise it. Vibrant sound
Third violin: sweet sound, not really harsh/bold
My preferences stayed the same. I really enjoyed the Johannson violin, but they all do sound fantastic.
Good choice!
Wonderful video ❤ & nicely played.
Thanks! Much appreciated!
The Collin Cross stood out to me in both tests. From what I could hear it had a very good response and projected very well. Sound quality was great in all instruments as far as I can tell but I mean I was listening on laptop speakers so...
I think I would take the Cross.
Me parecio muy interesante😊
The Johansson 😮, he definitely is my 1st choice, Vittori is my 2nd choice, I like his old grainy sound.
We also love the Johannsson violin, thanks for responding!
Johannsson, fat,alto sound on G&D
Wow! Totally different from what I thought.
We think so too!
The 3rd violin has unique sound and very better G string other than
With my eyes closed ..the first time i preferred the third violin...Italian....but its just a minimal difference..the others sound just as good...second violin might open up some more in time..but sounds very clear...
Especially with the lower tones D and G.....now in curious what kind of strings are on each violin?🤔
Alll 3 sounds good.
In the blind test the Vittori was quite different, the Collin Cross and Hans Johansson being more similar to each other.
One of my tests is - how easy does it sing? Do you have to work hard to get the sound you want? The Johansson violin almost played itself, similar to a Stradivari of 1713 I've heard on YT. The Cross needed a bit of coaxing, but came in 2nd. You had to struggle a bit more to get sound from the Vettori. The violin has to make your work easier. In the Dark it was Johansson, Vettori/Cross. One comment though, regarding a singing instrument vs a solid sound. Different music may make you prefer a more solid sound w/o overtones. Popping stops on a fiddle are also very important to me. Without good stops you may get wolf notes even though you have good strings and string height. Good choice in music - good from both registers. Vettori was weak on G string. Maybe other reasons than the fiddle. It's good to have more than one violin 😃😃😃.
i think the newest always the brighter sound, probably because the age of the wood, and everything are new finishing, so probably the newest will be reach deep sound too after severals years,, 🙂 just my opinion
The vettori was my least preferred and I could tell it was the 1st in the blind test. The other 2 didn’t sound much different to me, both good.
Interesting video. But in the first version they were also kind of a blind test because we have not seen them or heard them before. As for the pick of the day, my ears went for the Vettori in the second video and it was equal for the Cross and Vettori in the first one. All the e string sounded too gutsy to my taste. It might be the new headphones I’m breaking in. I’ll have to give it another try with other headphones that were broken in. The Johansson has potential but it sounds closed in at the moment.
Charles Beare believed that the sound of a violin depended 90% on the player. I have certainly heard a professional orchestral player make a £200 Chinese violin sound amazingly good (he was in an adjoining room and I did not see the violin ; only after he had finished did I find out what it was). All of the violins on show here are very fine instruments, and the differences are minimal , though I am pretty sure that the player could easily tell the difference - he hears it in quite a different way from us as onlookers. There's an old story about Heifetz being praised after a concert for the wonderful sound of his Guarneri - but he often did not take that priceless violin on tour, and he was using a decent modern American instrument. I note from other comments that there is a fair degree of disagreement about which is 'best'. For me, I have no idea, but I have to be aware of my own prejudices - I know Colin Cross violins (he's a Scottish maker and they are available in Edinburgh, near where I stay) and I have met Dario Vettori and played one of his violins, so I did not bring an open mind to the test. I enjoyed them all, and to play, or indeed even own, one would be a privilege.
Congrats Ariel,
Good point on hearing sound, music etc. I think that we listen with our eyes too so that could be a problem, all 3 violins in my opinion very good, the price difference between them is huge, the sound difference not that much. On string instruments there is huge importance on parts like appropriate bridge, tailpiece, sound post, which strings, what kind of bow you have, hair of the bow and on which spot you put bridge and sound post. We would really like to hear more experiments like that on the other violins and violas.
I like the cheapest violin between those 3, Colin Cross😂😂, I think we look through money too so if I have a lot of money some day then I wouldnt by any of those 3. Its funny how we look through other things..... Be good, wishing all the best
Thanks for your comment! Sometimes, results can be surprising and sound is such a subjective thing - we're glad you liked the sound of the Cross instrument!
@@MyLuthierUK Yes, its subjective thing, God bless for your kind executions of playing, yes I think Cross violin is not bad at all, like it. Thanks for posting videos, we would like to hear more blind testings.