Time stamps! 2:38 1. Resonance 7:43 2. Good Teachers for good foundations 11:09 3. No correct posture for everyone 15:18 4. Centre of gravity in left hand
Who also thinks they should do a "Serious Saturday" series, this video is a mine of gold for me who wants to learn violin and I'm sure there are many more persons like me!
I agree! I play but there's still a lot to learn and i would love for them to have more vids about actually playing, not just memes and jokes. And more vids introducing classical music, famous classical musicians and composers to people that might not know it that well. They already did some videos like that but it would be great if it was a weekly thing
The left hand centre of gravity thing has me SHOOK. Rocked me to my very core. 10 years of left hand issues falling tok-tok-tok into place. Need to go lie down in a dark room for a while to recover from this earth-shattering realization.
Regarding thing number six (i.e. practice), one thing twoset never mentions is that *frequency* of practice is more important than the raw number of hours. It's better to practice twenty minutes a day than to practice for three hours twice a week. If you're already doing long practice sessions every day, it is helpful to break it up into smaller chunks. People tend to learn and grow through cycles of work and rest, so getting in as many work-rest cycles as possible makes a huge difference. That's not to say you should never have long practice sessions (there are benefits for sure), but don't go into a practice session with the idea that you have to play for hours. Just pick up your instrument every day and play for at least few minutes. Once you start, there is a good chance you will want to keep going! Another thing with this is, if you're already practicing every day, it is good to occasionally take a break from playing for a few days or even weeks. If you play at a high level, you will notice that your technique gets a little worse after this, but it will come back quickly, and taking occasional vacations can be really helpful in feeling more inspired to play and breaking out of old ruts.
Damn. Sometimes the most challenging/frustrating part of practicing is actually finding the motivation to pick up the violin. What always ended up happening was me procrastinating and settling it for another day. Glad I got out of that habit by actually FORCING myself to practice everyday for like idk, few 10 minutes? If I feel really good that day then I know that day was a practice day. And if I don't, I promise myself to practice again tomorrow.
This week I turned 29 and I signed up for my first violin lesson. I know I won't be able to play like you guys but I'm very excited to learn to play like me, so thanks for the inspiration and encouragement!
@@deeznuts5642 This week I turned 30 and I can now play several beginner pieces! I really like Down To The River To Pray and Waltzing Matilda. I'm not the fastest learner but I'm really enjoying the process and I have a wonderful teacher. I try to play every day. Thank you for your thoughtful question, RUclips user deez nuts x)
I like how you said "learn to play like me" :) I'm also starting as an adult, I'm 32 now and first held a violin 1,5 years ago. So you're a year ahead :) hope you have as much fun as I do learning :)
I'm so amazed that Brett and Eddy are sharing these things they wish they knew before. Not anyone can be that open minded especially in the music world where competition is a really big thing. It will probably sound a bit cheesy but thank you Brett and Eddy for being such good people. (Sorry for my English, I am not a native speaker 😅)
I love how non-English speakers tend to apologise for their English when their grammar is usually better than that of native speakers :P Sincerly, a non-native speaker who doesn't apologise for it, except in French xD
im pretty sure this is better than mine XD English speakers don't rlly have to learn other languages so I think its impressive that you can speak/write so well. keep up the good work! :)
(edited apr 11, 2021, morning) how to be ling ling in 5 steps 1. resonance 2:38 2. good teachers for good foundation 7:43 3. no correct posture for everyone 11:07 4. center of gravity in left hand 15:18 5. find a good instrument 17:34 6 (bonus). practice! 20:00
General rules for practicing I've discovered way too late that I wish someone told me earlier: 1. Treat learning how to play a piece as if it were a riddle to solve, or a code to break- rather than a practicing task to perform. It's about exploration, not repetition. Experiment constantly. Don't just pay attention, pay *microscopic* attention to the body, instrument, and the mechanics and physics that shape your sound and what happens when you change things. Get exited about discovering new ways of playing. 2. Have notes for more pieces than you can play in one sitting and shuffle them. If you play the same thing over and over, your brain gets saturated and progress stops. Get a good book of etudes (or three) and play a random different one every day. Play a different scale every day (As recommended by Flesch himself, btw). 3. 40 minutes play, 20 minutes rest. Give your brain time to regroup. Then 2 days play, 1 day rest. If that's too extreme for you, at least a day off once a week, just don't obsess about playing every day. Every athlete will confirm how crucial rest and days off are, this is the same- more practice isn't always better, you can fry your brain. 4. Always start a playing session with something slow and quiet with a lot of long notes and fragile bow changes. It gets you in the zone and you are less likely to rush through things later. 5. Playing the violin is an eternal pursuit of reducing tension. If it doesn’t sound good, something somewhere is clenched. Notice, relax, listen again. Sometimes the biggest leaps in your progress will happen after you don't touch the violin for a while. Like if you practice a nasty passage or shift 50 times a day for a week, and it still doesn't work, then you don't touch that piece for a month, play it again and boom, it's perfect. It really happens. Allow yourself that flexibility, give your brain time to rest and regroup. Occasional breaks is also how you don't get sick of playing, btw.
As an adult beginner violinist (I'm 25!), this was great to watch! I started about a year and 6 months ago. I picked it up right before I turned 24 and i've loved every minute of it, but I've always felt I'm just too old to learn such an intricate instrument, but hey! I'll be joining my community orchestra soon and have been managing this on top of my full time job and I couldn't be happier about it honestly. Been watching you guys for a few years now, you guys are great! Keep it up, you're inspiring so many people
I’ve danced as a hobby mu whole life and one thing I can tell you is: if you go through all these troubles with instrument teachers that mess up with your mind, you can only IMAGINE what happens with dance students! The struggle is real, totally relatable
For everyone who’s learning an instrument, I hope you enjoy this journey is a tough way but the results of your hardwork and PRACTICE will worth all the time and effort you put on it. Don’t be harsh on yourself, you won’t get results in one day (maybe if you’re the personification of Ling Ling) BE PACIENT. Now may Ling Ling be with you 💕 and “GO PRACTICE” **auntie’s voice**
I have been playing for 3 and a half years, I felt I wasn't improving so I began lessons with a new teacher, she started working with me with the things you mention in this video, specially the resonance and my left hand position, it really makes a difference, I notice I can make my violin sound better with all this small changes. Thanks for sharing!!
I took violin lessons 8 years ago and stopped because of university/music teachers ruined the instrument for me. Haven't touched the violin since. This week I stumbled upon your channel and decided to take my violin out and start practicing again. It's only my third day back into practicing but I remember a lot from the lessons I took. I sound like shi...eet music BUT I keep practicing my 40 hours a day and I am learning to love the violin again. So thank you for the awesome content! :)
Summary of the 5 steps: 1) resonance (to have musicality) 2) good teacher to good foundation 3) no (one) correct posture for everyone 4) Centre of gravity of your left hand 5) find a good instrument 6) practice Pre-requisite: subscribed to TwoSetViolins
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“Hello my name is Brett...” “and my name is Eddy...” “”and welcome to out MASTERCLASS”” I love it when I actually learn something while watching them... it’s like I’m practicing but also procrastinating from practicing
Perfect combination of Eddy’s old channel where there’s serious and helpful violin techniques, and TS lighthearted content. Love this as a beginner violinist!
The thing about posture is so true. Everybody has a different physical build, so there's no one posture that's gonna fit everybody. You need the basics of a posture, yes, but ultimately, the most important thing is that you find a posture that's most comfortable to YOU. And it's not just violins, this applies to every instrument. You will always play your best when you feel the most relaxed and natural with an instrument.
I love this style of videos where twoset just has an informative conversation with us. And the best part is that they are teaching violinists really good tips.
Thanks for the video! I have played violin for years on and off and have struggled with losing interest when I hit ruts or feel unable to improve. This video helped me see that there were a lot of holes in my instruction (I was taught to play concertos without understanding the foundations, developed many bad habits, and had mixed and confusing feedback from instructors with little explanation). I have been considering giving up violin altogether because my foundation is so poor, but you guys are inspiring me to find a good instructor and keep learning :)
@@Thrano Actually, that's not true. I spent most of my young life practicing "harder," but without knowing wth I was doing. I just "tried hard" and like Eddy, ended up with a lot of ingrained bad habits because I was compensating for a bad instrument, and/or trying to make a teacher happy who didn't know that (one of the things TwoSet points out) there is not one "right" posture for everybody. When you keep trying, without understanding what you're doing or why, it amounts to a lot of churning without a lot of progress.
Thank you!! I know this will get lost in the comments but as a violinist of 14 years now and just having upgraded to a beautiful violin with much more potential I am realising there is so much more to discover regarding resonance and tone, and I've found that I've had to go back to some of the basics and really listen to my sound and how I can change it and play with a wider range of expression. I love hearing you guys talk about music and hope I can hear you play next time you come to London! Much love from the UK 🧡
Non-musician here, just an audiology and speech-language therapy student who appreciates these two guys 👋 What Brett and Eddy are saying about resonance is so important guys. The source (aka the strings of your instrument or vocal cords) produces a spectrum of sound composed by the tone+harmonics/overtones. You need to have in mind that some of them are going to be amplified when its frequency matches one of the natural frequencies of vibration (resonance frequencies) of your instrument/vocal tract. So if you want a fuller sound/proyect the sound you absolutely have to pay attention not only to the tone but also to the overtones.
About teachers "It's better to know why than what" - Yes yes yes. A truly great teacher does not impose the same techniques on all students but identifies problems and works with the student to discover what works for that individual.
Real fun fact : There's a man called Francesco Paoli. He's a guitarist and vocalist of Fleshgod Apocalypse. Long story short the band doesn't have a drummer. So he decided to learn drums. 2 years later hey released Agony, their second album with Paoli on drums and they're fast asf (the slowest is 226 BPM and the fastest is 300 BPM), and it's only been two years since he started drumming. He practiced somewhat around 8 hours per day. How long is that in music world?
I'm not sure if 8 hours is healthy, but he seemed to do fine. I think Hilary Hahn once said she practices a maximum of seven hours a day and when she does, she'll have to rest a day or two afterwards
Thank you for explaining 'centre of gravity' and how it works with stretching, as it affects pretty much all stringed instruments. It'll certainly help me with improving on guitar.
I love how they mention teachers wanting the best for their students. As a private piano teacher, I actually felt praised as most of non-musician people have no idea how teaching an instrument to different people on completely different levels is. And also being able to pin point what they can improve on on the spot... Personally speaking, teaching 30+ students having in mind everything envolved before and after each lesson, it's quite hard and exhausting. Adding the fact that I drive to each and every one of them adds on to the challenge. Nevertheless, I love what I do, love seeing them progress and taking steps towards success. I wouldn't ask for anything better. 😊
Just want to say thanks a lllllllllot for this super helpful/useful video: our 9 yr old took your tips and implemented them in his practice over the past two weeks. The color/tone of the sound improved magically (his teacher used the word "revolutionary", lol). You guys rock!
THAAAANK YOUUUUU !!!! I just grab my violin thinking all what you've said and I had my greatest epiphany, most with that of center of gravity and ressonance, my whole playing improve in the blink of an eye, and from now on keep on working just for the better. THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH TWOSET !!! Sorry for bad english :P
I recently just got a new teacher after my first two. I have been playing for approximately 8 years, and this teacher has just started to talk about sounding point, bow speed, tonality, resonance, and just opening up this whole new world of playing and I am so excited. Ahh, I have seen the effect of center of gravity in the left hand, but never actually known about it. My nee teacher did talk about it for octaves (leaning more on the 3 or 4 finger) for less tension. Now I know!
I am so glad Eddy is making informational videos again. Really missed this on his personal channel. And the addition of Brett is a great bonus! I don't want to hear you say you can't teach Eddy, ok? :D
they joke about it but the fact that we can literally just profit from all the wisdom they have gained over the years in a free youtube video is so fucking cool and i really feel the impact of it as well, just the way i think about my playing has changed so much ever since i started watching their videos and also i'm always so much more motivated because of them, thank you so much twoset!!
I am so upset that Twoset have less public attention than they deserve. Even my mom (not a professional musician) said that they are good and funny boys after I translated to her a couple of videos. Twoset truly are healers and teachers and friends for all of us
This was awesome. My teacher told me these things in my two lessons already back in February this year! I'm a pianist learning violin and I hit the jackpot with teachers in my area!
the "expensive does not mean good all the time" was something I actually noticed early on when I was looking at instruments after playing a few years. I went to try out some of the violins in this shop and liked the sound and felt better playing an $800 violin over a $1,500 violin.
honestly, i wasn't even listening to what they were as much as I was endeared by the two of them showing off their beautiful friendship. yes, I'm jealous. yes, I need a hug :'(
Adult beginner here and been trying to learn the violin for 3 months. The teacher advise is verrryyy relatable! So I got a teacher and had trial sessions first. Felt that he taught me well so I booked for one set (12 lessons). Long story short, didn't notice that i am practicing wrong habits until fellow LingLing wannabees pointed it out. Now I am trying a new teacher who is (claiming, don't have proof lol) to be classically-trained. Will try for a couple of sessions to see if she will help me enjoy playing the violin more. Thanks once again, Brett and Eddy! Keep doing these kinds of videos :)
People like me who have surpassed the socially acceptable age for learning any instrument but still watching the complete video be like- *I N T E R E S T I N G*
Have you guys think of making a good legit violin teaching app? Or publish something related to violin learning? I know you guys are busy and these things are complicated af, but just a random thought. I JUST LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT VIOLIN LEARNING SERIOUSLY!!! I love all other videos too but I'd love to see more of this types of video, if possible. But no pressure, I'll watch whatever videos you guys posted 10+ times at least!!!
Oh dude perfect timing! I'm recording for my ABRSM exam tomorrow and it's the 3rd time now bcs the other 2 turned to a rehearsal. And hopefully tomorrow will be the last session. THANK YOU 2 VIOLIN DUDES ON RUclips!!
Loving the newer content so much! When I was growing up as a violinist there was no internet. I was taught to play by ear and follow my intuition, but hearing you discuss these things is so great because I wasn't taught how to convey all this information. I was only taught how to understand it, not communicate it to others if that makes sense ❤️
I really got a trip down memory lane of all the things my teacher has taught me throughout the year I've played for her by watching this. All of the points 2set brought up she has brought up in similar forms. She was also the one who was the 1st to point out that my viola wasn't right for me so I ended up buying a different one and for the first time being in love w a viola. I'm so grateful for having her as my teacher and I can only imagine where I'd been musically if I'd had the chance to play for her privately earlier in life. Thank you teacher for having brought me to where I am now w my playing and will to once again study music
As a teacher, I feel like a lot of things they said about being good or bad teachers apply to teaching in my field as well. Hope they know these tips are helpful to not just string players, but anyone who cares about learning and teaching.
Another good way to hear the resonance that my first teacher taught me is to hear how long your sound remains after you lifted your bow, like how long your violin vibrates, and I found that also helpful
The resonant frequencies are a a violinists best friend but a music producers worst nightmare. Many years have gone into perfecting equalization and compression so that you can quash unwanted resonant frequencies in a mix and you boys are here encouraging people to be as resonant as possible. All jokes aside these are some nice tips thanks!
Thank you so much for the “left hand center of gravity” advice! I’m a self taught beginner, and was completely holding my left hand wrong. But your advice worked and my violin actually produced beautiful sounds yesterday!
The most important lesson i learned about playing an instrument is that you’re allowed to suck at it, even later on. As long as you keep playing, you will get better. It doesn’t really matter at what speed you’re going. If you keep playing and enjoying it, you can only improve.
A point about 1. Resonance: It's interesing for me as a singer to hear this because frankly thats most of what I try to achieve in my lessons. Trying to bring out 'metallicness' of the voice by opening up resonating chambers in the skull. It's really faszinating for me to see that this really applies in so much importance to string intruments etc. (Although it makes sense considering that in the I think Rennaissance era the precursors of modern instruments were build to kind of emulate the sound of the voice... :D)
this video. omg this video is just so beautiful and true. I have restarted on learning the violin about after 7 years. It's been awesome, I'm still without a teacher but, I really think it's helping me: I'm way more aware on what I need to be better at. I never really had any of my teachers teach posture and bow hold/strokes...so detailed. Here, and on another youtube classes, people really explain what you should be looking out for and the reason you should play like that. It's not detailed as a lesson would be, it's a framework but then, I learned what kinda should be like and since peoplecan play violin for hours, your posture should be comfortable. Getting that around my head, now I try to find a good posture for me. ANd the thing with resonance, thank you so much! Like, my G on the D string resonances so well, I really liked how well it sounds. But I don't get that same level on anothers notes, I didn't know it was "my fault", I thought it was how the violin sounded. I think that I can explain resonance as a really open sound, it's loud,but not forced, and the whole violin vibrates so well, I always think of the center of the soundpost vibrating a lot. thanks so much Twoset for this video,it just really helps a lot.
The bad teacher x good teacher is so true. I started with a teacher that was trying her best but to be honest she wasn't experienced in teaching and I just couldn't progress and fix my mistakes. My teacher after that was EXTREMELY accurate in giving personalized feedbacks. Just like the boys said, they may just say something really simple but it just CLICKS and then you feel the improvement on the spot. I progressed so much so quickly with my second teacher after struggling so much with my first one... I even thought of quitting the violin before I found my second teacher. Thank God I found him
I think the second point is a very good peice of advice. When I was starting out on violin I had a few group lessons with a teacher who was not yet a professional, and when I switched to a private teacher I found it very hard to correct my bad habits that I had played in, and it took years to even get a bow-hold that could be played with. Reflecting on my first term of full violin lessons, I realised that I not only was very technically behind where I should have been at my level, but I was also not enjoying lessons so much as there was so much to do in such a short space of time. I also hit a technical block during that time, as I previously had not had much support with the first stages in learning. Building a good foundation with new players is definitely very important, and I'm glad TwoSet shared this with the community.
Thanks for sharing the tips! I think these tips also apply to other instruments (like woodwind) as well. Good teacher, good instruments, posturing, resonance, practicing, figuring out why on top of what and how, etc. All apply.
“24 years for me!” “22 years for me!” “A total of 50 years!”
*Ladies and gentleman, the boys who met at math tutoring.*
*Ironic*
Lol
Well, they were in a math tutoring for a reason I guess lol
Engineers be like:
"22+24=50, close enough"
lmao :D
Not going to lie, I was expecting:
1. Go Practice
2. Go Practice
3. Be Chloe Chua
4. Go Practice
5. Go Practice
That’s something a parent would say😂😭
@Hamza Mzali I'm scared this is a rickroll
@@ellajeffres4747 no it’s a piano vid
@Hamza Mzali oh ffs, every video
well if you went "6. Go Practice" you're absolutely right
me, a non-musician: *ah yes i need this **_for my next life_*
lmao sameee
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
hey, never too late to start :D
if you want to, you can still become a musician in this life!
I felt there was a nice balance between teaching and comedy in this video.
who was here when the title was still “The 5 Secret Shortcuts To Make You Sound Like Lingling”
I saw the title as this but when I clicked on it the title was different and I was so confused lol
Meeeee
It was even more - Ling ling ling 😂
Me!
Me
when they’ve played violin longer than you’ve existed..
exactly xD
ikr
Truth
yeah they’re so old hahaha
YUP XD
Time stamps!
2:38 1. Resonance
7:43 2. Good Teachers for good foundations
11:09 3. No correct posture for everyone
15:18 4. Centre of gravity in left hand
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
17:36 5. Find a good instrument
And ... PRACTICE!
@Hamza Mzali nice! hahaha
Thank you!
Who also thinks they should do a "Serious Saturday" series, this video is a mine of gold for me who wants to learn violin and I'm sure there are many more persons like me!
I agree! I play but there's still a lot to learn and i would love for them to have more vids about actually playing, not just memes and jokes. And more vids introducing classical music, famous classical musicians and composers to people that might not know it that well. They already did some videos like that but it would be great if it was a weekly thing
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
Would be great and maybe also more Tips about playing
I agree to this
Am I the only one who was impressed by the fact that Eddy got Hilary to teach him Sibelius concerto?!
Nope. I am amazed too.
You're not alone
WHAT THE
eddy: professional violinists that played in professional orchestras-
brett: *oonga boonga-ing with his bow to the left*
ah yes, peak professionalism
i n d e e d
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
Timestamp??
time stamp please ;-;
time stamp porfis
edit: its 1:04 lol
The left hand centre of gravity thing has me SHOOK. Rocked me to my very core. 10 years of left hand issues falling tok-tok-tok into place. Need to go lie down in a dark room for a while to recover from this earth-shattering realization.
"We are Twoset Violin and this is our Masterclass!"
ah remind me hunterpedia from hxh frrrr😖😭
Twosetviolin having famous violinists subscribing to their RUclips channel is really a flex😂
and world class soloist gave them masterclass for free
@@ajchandra7735 We don't know if it was free lmao but I get your point
@@bonafidemoron Twoset and Hilary are friends lmao. if you follow Hilary closely you’ll just know how generous she is
@@ajchandra7735 yeah, she's the best, Idk why I'm so happy when I heard Eddy got a lesson with Hilary :)
@@ajchandra7735 Ah I see, thought you meant their masterclass with Chloe! But yeah Hilary is the best :)
Twoset: we are adults.
Also Twoset: waving like sea grass for no reason in the beginning of the video 0:06
They are children disguised as adults
This was disturbing thank you
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
sea grass XDDD
Aaah! 😲The center of gravity thing XD Tried to change it now and I think thats been a part of my vibrato tension issue. Gonna practice!💃🎻🎶🎵
bruv I was hoping a comment saying smth like "wow she's here", or talking about this matter but no, we have to have these bots.
This is the whole reason I couldn't do vibrato, my center was on my front finger and I couldn't vibrate my pinky unless I used straight arm vibrato.
Ling Ling’s identity is hidden. Nobody can achieve their level of greatness...
As hidden as...
Sadao Kujo (I’m sorry for the jojo reference, I can’t help it)
* her.
Jk
:)
Y his tho?
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
Regarding thing number six (i.e. practice), one thing twoset never mentions is that *frequency* of practice is more important than the raw number of hours. It's better to practice twenty minutes a day than to practice for three hours twice a week. If you're already doing long practice sessions every day, it is helpful to break it up into smaller chunks. People tend to learn and grow through cycles of work and rest, so getting in as many work-rest cycles as possible makes a huge difference.
That's not to say you should never have long practice sessions (there are benefits for sure), but don't go into a practice session with the idea that you have to play for hours. Just pick up your instrument every day and play for at least few minutes. Once you start, there is a good chance you will want to keep going!
Another thing with this is, if you're already practicing every day, it is good to occasionally take a break from playing for a few days or even weeks. If you play at a high level, you will notice that your technique gets a little worse after this, but it will come back quickly, and taking occasional vacations can be really helpful in feeling more inspired to play and breaking out of old ruts.
All of this.
Damn. Sometimes the most challenging/frustrating part of practicing is actually finding the motivation to pick up the violin. What always ended up happening was me procrastinating and settling it for another day. Glad I got out of that habit by actually FORCING myself to practice everyday for like idk, few 10 minutes? If I feel really good that day then I know that day was a practice day. And if I don't, I promise myself to practice again tomorrow.
Occasionally I'll take a week's break and my playing improves.
Genius
A bit hard to pick up a piano, but I’ll try.
the only thing they got from math tutoring was each other
but becuz of that this entire fandom exists
Very well said!!!!
omlll true 🥺
omg, this gives me super cute friendship and kawai vibes.
TRUE THO.
Did Brett and Eddy just gave us all of their best experience/advice as a gift? That's... that is one of the best gifts I've recieved
'at least they're not giving math tips'
damn editor san be savage as usual
edit: 'sO hUmBle'
editor san i love u
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Ikrr!😂😂🔥
The edits were so funny.
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Petition to make this a series with their other musician friends. For example, I would love to hear Sophie Oui oui's thoughts for playing the piano.
Yessss I play the piano and I‘d love that
And Violist friends if they have any
Twoset talking serious is the best that that has happened since Ling Ling started practicing 40 hours
This week I turned 29 and I signed up for my first violin lesson. I know I won't be able to play like you guys but I'm very excited to learn to play like me, so thanks for the inspiration and encouragement!
How's it going?
@@deeznuts5642 This week I turned 30 and I can now play several beginner pieces! I really like Down To The River To Pray and Waltzing Matilda. I'm not the fastest learner but I'm really enjoying the process and I have a wonderful teacher. I try to play every day. Thank you for your thoughtful question, RUclips user deez nuts x)
Started at 50! Never too late.
I like how you said "learn to play like me" :) I'm also starting as an adult, I'm 32 now and first held a violin 1,5 years ago. So you're a year ahead :) hope you have as much fun as I do learning :)
@@jeanasmith4024 same here, I started at 50, I’m loving it.
I'm so amazed that Brett and Eddy are sharing these things they wish they knew before. Not anyone can be that open minded especially in the music world where competition is a really big thing.
It will probably sound a bit cheesy but thank you Brett and Eddy for being such good people.
(Sorry for my English, I am not a native speaker 😅)
There's nothing to be sorry about your English. I'm sure you're doing well. Keep practicing.
I love how non-English speakers tend to apologise for their English when their grammar is usually better than that of native speakers :P
Sincerly, a non-native speaker who doesn't apologise for it, except in French xD
im pretty sure this is better than mine XD English speakers don't rlly have to learn other languages so I think its impressive that you can speak/write so well. keep up the good work! :)
Thank you everyone for your kind words :)
"lol it ok"
Brett and Eddy are so generous and open to us 😭
*"We guide others to a treasure we cannot possess."*
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
omg that sounds so sweet when u word it that way 😭
@@ifyouclickhereyouremindwil3265 youre like the new hamza something
Red skull
Quote of the year
i lost it at 3:54 😂😂 Eddy wanted Brett to approve his Tchaik 🥺
(edited apr 11, 2021, morning)
how to be ling ling in 5 steps
1. resonance 2:38
2. good teachers for good foundation 7:43
3. no correct posture for everyone 11:07
4. center of gravity in left hand 15:18
5. find a good instrument 17:34
6 (bonus). practice! 20:00
This is like perlman's masterclass
what anout only practice 😈
Eddy's greatest quote: "Once you hear it, you'll hear it" (6:30)
Brett's Greatest quote: 6:24
General rules for practicing I've discovered way too late that I wish someone told me earlier:
1. Treat learning how to play a piece as if it were a riddle to solve, or a code to break- rather than a practicing task to perform.
It's about exploration, not repetition. Experiment constantly. Don't just pay attention, pay *microscopic* attention to the body, instrument, and the mechanics and physics that shape your sound and what happens when you change things. Get exited about discovering new ways of playing.
2. Have notes for more pieces than you can play in one sitting and shuffle them.
If you play the same thing over and over, your brain gets saturated and progress stops. Get a good book of etudes (or three) and play a random different one every day. Play a different scale every day (As recommended by Flesch himself, btw).
3. 40 minutes play, 20 minutes rest. Give your brain time to regroup.
Then 2 days play, 1 day rest. If that's too extreme for you, at least a day off once a week, just don't obsess about playing every day. Every athlete will confirm how crucial rest and days off are, this is the same- more practice isn't always better, you can fry your brain.
4. Always start a playing session with something slow and quiet with a lot of long notes and fragile bow changes. It gets you in the zone and you are less likely to rush through things later.
5. Playing the violin is an eternal pursuit of reducing tension. If it doesn’t sound good, something somewhere is clenched. Notice, relax, listen again.
Sometimes the biggest leaps in your progress will happen after you don't touch the violin for a while. Like if you practice a nasty passage or shift 50 times a day for a week, and it still doesn't work, then you don't touch that piece for a month, play it again and boom, it's perfect. It really happens. Allow yourself that flexibility, give your brain time to rest and regroup. Occasional breaks is also how you don't get sick of playing, btw.
Thanks for the additional tips!
Thank you ❤
Thanks a lot!!!😊🎉
Danke schön.
As an adult beginner violinist (I'm 25!), this was great to watch! I started about a year and 6 months ago. I picked it up right before I turned 24 and i've loved every minute of it, but I've always felt I'm just too old to learn such an intricate instrument, but hey! I'll be joining my community orchestra soon and have been managing this on top of my full time job and I couldn't be happier about it honestly. Been watching you guys for a few years now, you guys are great! Keep it up, you're inspiring so many people
I started at 47 … I can only wish I started as early as you :D
I’ve danced as a hobby mu whole life and one thing I can tell you is: if you go through all these troubles with instrument teachers that mess up with your mind, you can only IMAGINE what happens with dance students! The struggle is real, totally relatable
It's true in any art form. Writing teachers can be killers.
I cannot believe how well rounded of a youtube channel TwoSet has become. This is a really valuable video and I hope people take something from it
For everyone who’s learning an instrument, I hope you enjoy this journey is a tough way but the results of your hardwork and PRACTICE will worth all the time and effort you put on it. Don’t be harsh on yourself, you won’t get results in one day (maybe if you’re the personification of Ling Ling) BE PACIENT. Now may Ling Ling be with you 💕 and “GO PRACTICE” **auntie’s voice**
Thank you
I have been playing for 3 and a half years, I felt I wasn't improving so I began lessons with a new teacher, she started working with me with the things you mention in this video, specially the resonance and my left hand position, it really makes a difference, I notice I can make my violin sound better with all this small changes.
Thanks for sharing!!
Twoset really does make our day better
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I took violin lessons 8 years ago and stopped because of university/music teachers ruined the instrument for me. Haven't touched the violin since. This week I stumbled upon your channel and decided to take my violin out and start practicing again. It's only my third day back into practicing but I remember a lot from the lessons I took. I sound like shi...eet music BUT I keep practicing my 40 hours a day and I am learning to love the violin again. So thank you for the awesome content! :)
That's awesome, I'm so happy for you, happy practicing ! 🤗
Summary of the 5 steps:
1) resonance (to have musicality)
2) good teacher to good foundation
3) no (one) correct posture for everyone
4) Centre of gravity of your left hand
5) find a good instrument
6) practice
Pre-requisite: subscribed to TwoSetViolins
U forgot to subscribe to Twoset
@@eo4295 that was the pre-requisite 😂
@@ladidadidaladi7168 Lol, still should never be forgotten
Is anyone else going to talk about the fact that Eddy got a violin lesson from *Hilary Hahn* ???
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When Eddy looked at Brett for reassurance... so adorable!
"Once you hear it, you'll hear it." wow, such wisdom!
As a 37-year-old who just started (4 months ago) to learn violin, finally fulfilling a life's dream, I can't thank you enough for this priceless video
Now, this is what I subscribed for! 😍
Episode clearly goes to playlist "TwoSet Counselingling".
“Hello my name is Brett...” “and my name is Eddy...” “”and welcome to out MASTERCLASS””
I love it when I actually learn something while watching them... it’s like I’m practicing but also procrastinating from practicing
Ikr
Practastinating?
TwoSetViolin: posts a new video
Me: clicks the video faster than the sacrilegious boi
Perfect combination of Eddy’s old channel where there’s serious and helpful violin techniques, and TS lighthearted content. Love this as a beginner violinist!
Dude it's literally serious Saturdays now...and I am loving every second of it!!❤️❤️
The thing about posture is so true. Everybody has a different physical build, so there's no one posture that's gonna fit everybody. You need the basics of a posture, yes, but ultimately, the most important thing is that you find a posture that's most comfortable to YOU. And it's not just violins, this applies to every instrument. You will always play your best when you feel the most relaxed and natural with an instrument.
alternative title: a private lesson with twosetviolin 🤩
I love this style of videos where twoset just has an informative conversation with us. And the best part is that they are teaching violinists really good tips.
I'm not working!!! I'm watching another Twoset video and here comes the new one!!!! Life is AMAZING!!!
Amaaazing!
Thanks for the video! I have played violin for years on and off and have struggled with losing interest when I hit ruts or feel unable to improve. This video helped me see that there were a lot of holes in my instruction (I was taught to play concertos without understanding the foundations, developed many bad habits, and had mixed and confusing feedback from instructors with little explanation). I have been considering giving up violin altogether because my foundation is so poor, but you guys are inspiring me to find a good instructor and keep learning :)
There’s no shortcut idk why I clicked this PRACTICE
The real shortcut is to PRACTICE HARDER
@@Thrano **in Brett's voice** "Periodt 💅"
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
lol same
@@Thrano Actually, that's not true. I spent most of my young life practicing "harder," but without knowing wth I was doing. I just "tried hard" and like Eddy, ended up with a lot of ingrained bad habits because I was compensating for a bad instrument, and/or trying to make a teacher happy who didn't know that (one of the things TwoSet points out) there is not one "right" posture for everybody.
When you keep trying, without understanding what you're doing or why, it amounts to a lot of churning without a lot of progress.
Thank you!! I know this will get lost in the comments but as a violinist of 14 years now and just having upgraded to a beautiful violin with much more potential I am realising there is so much more to discover regarding resonance and tone, and I've found that I've had to go back to some of the basics and really listen to my sound and how I can change it and play with a wider range of expression. I love hearing you guys talk about music and hope I can hear you play next time you come to London! Much love from the UK 🧡
Non-musician here, just an audiology and speech-language therapy student who appreciates these two guys 👋
What Brett and Eddy are saying about resonance is so important guys.
The source (aka the strings of your instrument or vocal cords) produces a spectrum of sound composed by the tone+harmonics/overtones.
You need to have in mind that some of them are going to be amplified when its frequency matches one of the natural frequencies of vibration (resonance frequencies) of your instrument/vocal tract.
So if you want a fuller sound/proyect the sound you absolutely have to pay attention not only to the tone but also to the overtones.
About teachers "It's better to know why than what" - Yes yes yes. A truly great teacher does not impose the same techniques on all students but identifies problems and works with the student to discover what works for that individual.
Real fun fact : There's a man called Francesco Paoli. He's a guitarist and vocalist of Fleshgod Apocalypse. Long story short the band doesn't have a drummer. So he decided to learn drums. 2 years later hey released Agony, their second album with Paoli on drums and they're fast asf (the slowest is 226 BPM and the fastest is 300 BPM), and it's only been two years since he started drumming. He practiced somewhat around 8 hours per day. How long is that in music world?
Idk why I find this so funny ruclips.net/video/BxpdjiqJvWk/видео.html
That’s actually epic...8hours a day?!!!
Yeah I could never
Thnx for sharing 😊
5840 of lingling hours
I'm not sure if 8 hours is healthy, but he seemed to do fine.
I think Hilary Hahn once said she practices a maximum of seven hours a day and when she does, she'll have to rest a day or two afterwards
i've never heard that band in years. oh my memory
Thank you for explaining 'centre of gravity' and how it works with stretching, as it affects pretty much all stringed instruments. It'll certainly help me with improving on guitar.
I love how they mention teachers wanting the best for their students. As a private piano teacher, I actually felt praised as most of non-musician people have no idea how teaching an instrument to different people on completely different levels is. And also being able to pin point what they can improve on on the spot... Personally speaking, teaching 30+ students having in mind everything envolved before and after each lesson, it's quite hard and exhausting. Adding the fact that I drive to each and every one of them adds on to the challenge. Nevertheless, I love what I do, love seeing them progress and taking steps towards success. I wouldn't ask for anything better. 😊
Just want to say thanks a lllllllllot for this super helpful/useful video: our 9 yr old took your tips and implemented them in his practice over the past two weeks. The color/tone of the sound improved magically (his teacher used the word "revolutionary", lol). You guys rock!
THAAAANK YOUUUUU !!!!
I just grab my violin thinking all what you've said and I had my greatest epiphany, most with that of center of gravity and ressonance, my whole playing improve in the blink of an eye, and from now on keep on working just for the better.
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH TWOSET !!!
Sorry for bad english :P
I recently just got a new teacher after my first two. I have been playing for approximately 8 years, and this teacher has just started to talk about sounding point, bow speed, tonality, resonance, and just opening up this whole new world of playing and I am so excited.
Ahh, I have seen the effect of center of gravity in the left hand, but never actually known about it. My nee teacher did talk about it for octaves (leaning more on the 3 or 4 finger) for less tension. Now I know!
You guys are so inspirational even for non-musicians. I admire both of you very much.
I am so glad Eddy is making informational videos again. Really missed this on his personal channel. And the addition of Brett is a great bonus! I don't want to hear you say you can't teach Eddy, ok? :D
they joke about it but the fact that we can literally just profit from all the wisdom they have gained over the years in a free youtube video is so fucking cool
and i really feel the impact of it as well, just the way i think about my playing has changed so much ever since i started watching their videos and also i'm always so much more motivated because of them, thank you so much twoset!!
I am so upset that Twoset have less public attention than they deserve. Even my mom (not a professional musician) said that they are good and funny boys after I translated to her a couple of videos. Twoset truly are healers and teachers and friends for all of us
This was awesome. My teacher told me these things in my two lessons already back in February this year! I'm a pianist learning violin and I hit the jackpot with teachers in my area!
the "expensive does not mean good all the time" was something I actually noticed early on when I was looking at instruments after playing a few years. I went to try out some of the violins in this shop and liked the sound and felt better playing an $800 violin over a $1,500 violin.
honestly, i wasn't even listening to what they were as much as I was endeared by the two of them showing off their beautiful friendship.
yes, I'm jealous. yes, I need a hug :'(
Adult beginner here and been trying to learn the violin for 3 months. The teacher advise is verrryyy relatable!
So I got a teacher and had trial sessions first. Felt that he taught me well so I booked for one set (12 lessons). Long story short, didn't notice that i am practicing wrong habits until fellow LingLing wannabees pointed it out. Now I am trying a new teacher who is (claiming, don't have proof lol) to be classically-trained. Will try for a couple of sessions to see if she will help me enjoy playing the violin more.
Thanks once again, Brett and Eddy! Keep doing these kinds of videos :)
People like me who have surpassed the socially acceptable age for learning any instrument but still watching the complete video be like-
*I N T E R E S T I N G*
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@@-Muzikalite- Well as you know, I was a mediocre flautist and pianist
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@@saumiasinghal94662 Actually, I think you are very good at the piano.
'we're gonna have fun but we're not gonna have damentals'
*now i feel that on a spiritual level*
Have you guys think of making a good legit violin teaching app? Or publish something related to violin learning? I know you guys are busy and these things are complicated af, but just a random thought. I JUST LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT VIOLIN LEARNING SERIOUSLY!!! I love all other videos too but I'd love to see more of this types of video, if possible. But no pressure, I'll watch whatever videos you guys posted 10+ times at least!!!
These two are basically, the best people in the world.
Reasons why I think so:
1: Funny
2: Extremely cute
3: Are sadness windscreen wipers.
The 3rd point is obviously the most important. 😏
Omg I needed this, I have a music festival/exam coming up and I need all the blessings ling ling can give me.
Nice, hope it goes well!
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Oh dude perfect timing! I'm recording for my ABRSM exam tomorrow and it's the 3rd time now bcs the other 2 turned to a rehearsal. And hopefully tomorrow will be the last session. THANK YOU 2 VIOLIN DUDES ON RUclips!!
Loving the newer content so much! When I was growing up as a violinist there was no internet. I was taught to play by ear and follow my intuition, but hearing you discuss these things is so great because I wasn't taught how to convey all this information. I was only taught how to understand it, not communicate it to others if that makes sense ❤️
We have just discovered your channel and my son was so inspired today, he practised for an hour (40 hours) without persuasion .
I really got a trip down memory lane of all the things my teacher has taught me throughout the year I've played for her by watching this. All of the points 2set brought up she has brought up in similar forms. She was also the one who was the 1st to point out that my viola wasn't right for me so I ended up buying a different one and for the first time being in love w a viola. I'm so grateful for having her as my teacher and I can only imagine where I'd been musically if I'd had the chance to play for her privately earlier in life. Thank you teacher for having brought me to where I am now w my playing and will to once again study music
me at 1:31 :
*lying in bed*
*being 12*
*have been playing cello for two years*
*dreams of becoming the next yoyoma*
GO PRACTICE
@@nonosquare1066 OK :)
Haha yeah I’ve been playing cello for two years and dream of being the next yoyoma as well but I’m still laying in bed
As a teacher, I feel like a lot of things they said about being good or bad teachers apply to teaching in my field as well. Hope they know these tips are helpful to not just string players, but anyone who cares about learning and teaching.
I absolutely 💕 LOVE 💕 that Hilary was helping Eddy with his Sibelius
Another good way to hear the resonance that my first teacher taught me is to hear how long your sound remains after you lifted your bow, like how long your violin vibrates, and I found that also helpful
The resonant frequencies are a a violinists best friend but a music producers worst nightmare. Many years have gone into perfecting equalization and compression so that you can quash unwanted resonant frequencies in a mix and you boys are here encouraging people to be as resonant as possible.
All jokes aside these are some nice tips thanks!
The moment when you play the piano but you take the tips to your heart 😂
Thank you so much for the “left hand center of gravity” advice! I’m a self taught beginner, and was completely holding my left hand wrong. But your advice worked and my violin actually produced beautiful sounds yesterday!
Ahh yes... the Twoset Windshield Wipers. That’s needs to be the name for a classical band.
The most important lesson i learned about playing an instrument is that you’re allowed to suck at it, even later on. As long as you keep playing, you will get better. It doesn’t really matter at what speed you’re going. If you keep playing and enjoying it, you can only improve.
“The 5 Secret Shortcuts To make You Sound like Ling Ling”
Me who has been practicing for months and still getting no where: Now is my chance!
A point about 1. Resonance:
It's interesing for me as a singer to hear this because frankly thats most of what I try to achieve in my lessons. Trying to bring out 'metallicness' of the voice by opening up resonating chambers in the skull. It's really faszinating for me to see that this really applies in so much importance to string intruments etc. (Although it makes sense considering that in the I think Rennaissance era the precursors of modern instruments were build to kind of emulate the sound of the voice... :D)
Twoset: practice 40 hrs a day
Also twoset: uploading 2 times a day knowing everone will watch it while sitting at their instrument
omg, I misread this as "while sitting on their instrument" 😱
Looks down at cello on the floor*
I NEED MORE OF THES VIDEOS LIKE YESTERDAY, THIS WAS SO HELPFUL FOR MY PLAYING
this video. omg this video is just so beautiful and true. I have restarted on learning the violin about after 7 years. It's been awesome, I'm still without a teacher but, I really think it's helping me: I'm way more aware on what I need to be better at. I never really had any of my teachers teach posture and bow hold/strokes...so detailed. Here, and on another youtube classes, people really explain what you should be looking out for and the reason you should play like that. It's not detailed as a lesson would be, it's a framework but then, I learned what kinda should be like and since peoplecan play violin for hours, your posture should be comfortable. Getting that around my head, now I try to find a good posture for me. ANd the thing with resonance, thank you so much! Like, my G on the D string resonances so well, I really liked how well it sounds. But I don't get that same level on anothers notes, I didn't know it was "my fault", I thought it was how the violin sounded. I think that I can explain resonance as a really open sound, it's loud,but not forced, and the whole violin vibrates so well, I always think of the center of the soundpost vibrating a lot. thanks so much Twoset for this video,it just really helps a lot.
The bad teacher x good teacher is so true. I started with a teacher that was trying her best but to be honest she wasn't experienced in teaching and I just couldn't progress and fix my mistakes. My teacher after that was EXTREMELY accurate in giving personalized feedbacks. Just like the boys said, they may just say something really simple but it just CLICKS and then you feel the improvement on the spot. I progressed so much so quickly with my second teacher after struggling so much with my first one... I even thought of quitting the violin before I found my second teacher. Thank God I found him
I looooove TwoSet
I think the second point is a very good peice of advice. When I was starting out on violin I had a few group lessons with a teacher who was not yet a professional, and when I switched to a private teacher I found it very hard to correct my bad habits that I had played in, and it took years to even get a bow-hold that could be played with. Reflecting on my first term of full violin lessons, I realised that I not only was very technically behind where I should have been at my level, but I was also not enjoying lessons so much as there was so much to do in such a short space of time. I also hit a technical block during that time, as I previously had not had much support with the first stages in learning. Building a good foundation with new players is definitely very important, and I'm glad TwoSet shared this with the community.
excellent content, thanks for the wisdom
Thanks for sharing the tips! I think these tips also apply to other instruments (like woodwind) as well. Good teacher, good instruments, posturing, resonance, practicing, figuring out why on top of what and how, etc. All apply.
I truly can’t thank you enough for this insightful, inspiring, genuine and generous advice. I feel I can get on the right track when practicing.
im an adult student studying at the Louisville Academy of Music, im in my second year and i love your content, thank you for this video!!